Shakti Pumps (India) Limited (BOM:531431)
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Q4 22/23

May 8, 2023

Operator

Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Rohit Anand from Ernst & Young LLP. Thank you, and over to you, Mr. Anand.

Rohit Anand
Manager, Ernst & Young LLP

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Before we proceed, let me remind you that the discussion may contain forward-looking statements that may involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors. It must be viewed in conjunction with our business risks that could cause future result, performance, or achievements to differ significantly from what is expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. To take us forward through the financial results and developments, and to answer your question today, we have the senior management of Shakti Pumps India Limited, represented by Mr. Dinesh Patidar, Managing Director, Mr. Ramesh Patidar, Executive Director, Exports, Mr. Dinesh Patel, Chief Financial Officer, and Mr. Ravi Patidar, CS, and by Mr. Dinesh Patidar, followed by the Q&A, Q&A session. I will now hand over the call to Mr. Patidar. Over to you, sir.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Thank you, Rohit. [Foreign language].

[Foreign language].

[Foreign language]. Over to Dinesh.

Dinesh Patel
CFO, Shakti Pumps

Thank you, sir. Revenue from operation in Q4 FY 2023 stood at INR 182.7 crore as against INR 384.6 crore in the corresponding quarter. Revenue from the export business stood at INR 68.9 crore as compared to INR 51.5 crore. Registering a strong growth of 34% YoY, EBITDA for Q4 FY 2023 was at INR 10.9 crore, and EBITDA margin was at 6%. The company reported a PAT of INR 2.2 crore during Q4 FY 2023. During the full year, FY 2023, we recorded a revenue of INR 967.7 crore, as against INR 1,178.5 crore in FY 2022.

The export business continued its growth journey and surged 27% YoY to INR 234.8 crore. EBITDA for FY 2023 was at INR 66.6 crore. EBITDA margin at 6.9% and PAT was at INR 24.1 crore. Now, I request the moderator to open the floor for question answer.

Operator

Sir, should we begin the question and answer session?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Yes.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. Our first question is from the line of Mr. Kaushal Vora from Latin Manharlal Securities. Please go ahead.

Kaushal Vora
Analyst, Latin Manharlal Securities

Sir, wanted to know more [Foreign language] . As you said, size is 157,000 pumps. What is the timeline for that?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Two years, [Foreign language].

Kaushal Vora
Analyst, Latin Manharlal Securities

[Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Kaushal Vora
Analyst, Latin Manharlal Securities

[Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

actually, [Foreign language].

Kaushal Vora
Analyst, Latin Manharlal Securities

[Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Kaushal Vora
Analyst, Latin Manharlal Securities

[Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Kaushal Vora
Analyst, Latin Manharlal Securities

So we can expect by July onward we can see KUSUM 3.2 starting.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Kaushal Vora
Analyst, Latin Manharlal Securities

okay, [Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Ramesh Patidar
Executive Director, Shakti Pumps

afternoon, [Foreign language]

Kaushal Vora
Analyst, Latin Manharlal Securities

[Foreign language]

Ramesh Patidar
Executive Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Kaushal Vora
Analyst, Latin Manharlal Securities

[Foreign language]

Ramesh Patidar
Executive Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Kaushal Vora
Analyst, Latin Manharlal Securities

Okay, that's it from my side. Thank you and all the best.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, our next question is from the line of Mr. Vishal from Svan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 14

Thank you for taking my question sir. Sir, just wanted to know the breakup customer wise which you give every year.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Vishal [Foreign language]

Speaker 14

Sir, basically customer segment-wise breakup for the year as well as for the quarter that will be helpful?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Speaker 14

Sir! Sir, [Foreign language] sir, how do you see now going [Foreign language] you will be participating in the tender. So how fast you expect you know this ordering process will start and when will this execution start. So can we easily [Foreign language], majority of the ordering will be in the second half and second quarter. [Foreign language]?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Speaker 14

Okay, okay, a [Foreign language]. Is understanding right?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Speaker 14

[Foreign language] you are saying Q2 FY 2024. [Foreign language] In terms of [Foreign language] in Q1 our performance will be slightly better than Q4. It will not be significantly better because [Foreign language] execution , back-ended [Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Speaker 14

Okay fantastic sir, thank you so much and all the best sir. Thank you!

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Operator

Thank you, our next question is from the line of Mr. Ankit from JHP Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Thank you for taking my question. So actually, I wanted to ask in KUSUM scheme to the Shakti Pumps contribution in total exposure is getting reduced quarter-on-quarter. So what is the reason behind that? Because in, in quarter one it was 45%, currently in quarter four it is at 24%. Any reason for that?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Speaker 13

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language] year-on-year [Foreign language] inr [Foreign language] solar [Foreign language] inr 235 [Foreign language]

Speaker 13

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Agri, domestic and OEM.

Speaker 13

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Speaker 13

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Quarter four [Foreign language] 69 [Foreign language] export [Foreign language]

Speaker 13

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language], OEM [Foreign language]

Speaker 13

Okay, okay thank you, thank you so much.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Thank you Ankit.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Vijay Srivastava from VSF Associates. Please go ahead. Mr. Srivastava, your line has been unmuted. You can go ahead with your question. As there is no response from the participant's line, may I request the management that will move to the next question. Our next question is from the line of Hardik Vyas from Economic Times. Please go ahead.

Hardik Vyas
Analyst, Economic Times

Good afternoon sir! [Foreign language]?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Speaker 14

[Foreign language] to we will be able to sell it at higher price to save our margin and something time.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Hardik Vyas
Analyst, Economic Times

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Hardik Vyas
Analyst, Economic Times

[Foreign language]

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Hardik Vyas
Analyst, Economic Times

[Foreign language]?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Hardik Vyas
Analyst, Economic Times

Okay, Uganda [Foreign language] export we have suffered a little on the export front because of American market undergoing recession and [Foreign language]?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

25% [Foreign language]

Ramesh Patidar
Executive Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Hardik Vyas
Analyst, Economic Times

Last quarter [Foreign language].

Ramesh Patidar
Executive Director, Shakti Pumps

Last quarter [Foreign language].

Hardik Vyas
Analyst, Economic Times

[Foreign language]. Okay okay. [Foreign language]

Ramesh Patidar
Executive Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]. 30%.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

30%, 30% of the export sales.

Hardik Vyas
Analyst, Economic Times

Okay okay. Last question Africa uganda [Foreign language].

Ramesh Patidar
Executive Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Hardik Vyas
Analyst, Economic Times

Thank you sir! All the best.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Mr. Nitin from KIFS Capital Private Limited. Please go ahead.

Nitin Gandhi
Senior VP, KIFS Capital Pvt Ltd

Yeah, thanks for taking my question. With reference to the current two-year order of 0.6 pump, what the market share strategy which you are planning? Because some of the states may be aggressive and some states you might decide basin. If you can share some thoughts of getting major market share in that.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Nitin Gandhi
Senior VP, KIFS Capital Pvt Ltd

Thank you . [Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]. Yes, definitely margin [Foreign language].

Nitin Gandhi
Senior VP, KIFS Capital Pvt Ltd

[Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Operator

Thank you, our next question is from the line of Forum Makim from Equitree Capital. Please go ahead.

Forum Makim
Equity Research Analyst, Equitree Capital

[ Foreign language]

[Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

yes, [Foreign language].

Forum Makim
Equity Research Analyst, Equitree Capital

Right sir, [Foreign language]?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Forum Makim
Equity Research Analyst, Equitree Capital

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Forum Makim
Equity Research Analyst, Equitree Capital

Okay sir [Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language] ?

Forum Makim
Equity Research Analyst, Equitree Capital

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Forum Makim
Equity Research Analyst, Equitree Capital

Right, right. [Foreign language]?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Forum Makim
Equity Research Analyst, Equitree Capital

Okay sir! So sir, once this KUSUM 3 starts, what run rate of pumps can we expect per quarter.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

yes, [Foreign language].

Forum Makim
Equity Research Analyst, Equitree Capital

Right, sir, just two more question, [Foreign language], right?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Forum Makim
Equity Research Analyst, Equitree Capital

Okay, sir and sir, [Foreign language]?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Forum Makim
Equity Research Analyst, Equitree Capital

Okay sir, okay. Thank you so much, sir.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Deepesh Sancheti from Maanya Finance. Please go ahead.

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

Yes sir, sir first thing though what is the capacity and this year utilization what happened? In India as well as Uganda.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

Okay! And from this, how many solar pumps can we make.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

[Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

[Foreign language] almost INR 24,000 [Foreign language] and company generally market share of 32%-35% can we do INR 8,000 crore in the next two years?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

[Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

Because this entire order. [Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

[Foreign language], just to understand [Foreign language] we will [Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

Okay sir, okay.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

OK, OK. What is the current order book?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

Without project. Okay sir, right now debt [Foreign language] we will ramp up because we will need more capacity utilization.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patel
CFO, Shakti Pumps

Exactly! Which as of today's date on 31st March we have finished, that is a INR 71 crore short-term finance done and INR 2.4 crore on long-term and now what total sanction we have, from bank that is around INR 500 crore, in which 50% fund based is, 50% non-fund based is. So sufficient sanction available is. For any turnover to do and bank also ready to support.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

I completely understand, loan is not big enough, but I want to know if we will take more loan? Because of higher capacity utilization.

Dinesh Patel
CFO, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

[Foreign language]. How does the payment happen?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Deepesh Sancheti
Managing Partner, Maanya Finance

Great, great sir, thank you so much and all the very best. I hope that you will definitely achieve your double-digit margin and most so I think INR 1,000 crore ka to order. [Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Yes, yes, definitely, sir! Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, my next question is from the line of Rikesh Parikh from Rockstud Capital. Please go ahead.

Rikesh Parikh
Principal Officer, Rockstud Capital

the opportunity. Sir, I wanted to know that in 21 states we people have become eligible. In KUSUM 3, so out of these, in how many states have we people become L1.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Rikesh Parikh
Principal Officer, Rockstud Capital

okay, [Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Rikesh Parikh
Principal Officer, Rockstud Capital

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Rikesh Parikh
Principal Officer, Rockstud Capital

[Foreign language] ?

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Rikesh Parikh
Principal Officer, Rockstud Capital

[Foreign language] ?

[Foreign language]

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Rikesh Parikh
Principal Officer, Rockstud Capital

[Foreign language]. Right.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Rikesh Parikh
Principal Officer, Rockstud Capital

In terms of number. We can expect this year, some revenue topline will start coming in. By the end of the year.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Rikesh Parikh
Principal Officer, Rockstud Capital

Okay, thank you!

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question from the line of Balasubramanian from Arihant Capital Markets Limited please go ahead.

Balasubramanian A
Equity Research Analyst of Industrials and Consumer Durables, Arihant Capital Markets Ltd

Hello sir, yes sir, just wanted confirmation on the payment cycle that you mentioned 90% of the payment received in 30 days and 90 days. [Foreign language].

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Sure, sure [Foreign language] 90% within 30 days aur 10% within 90 days.

Balasubramanian A
Equity Research Analyst of Industrials and Consumer Durables, Arihant Capital Markets Ltd

[Foreign language], right from the farmer and the government।

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

30% advance [Foreign language].

Balasubramanian A
Equity Research Analyst of Industrials and Consumer Durables, Arihant Capital Markets Ltd

Okay, okay.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Balasubramanian A
Equity Research Analyst of Industrials and Consumer Durables, Arihant Capital Markets Ltd

Okay, understood understood.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language]

Balasubramanian A
Equity Research Analyst of Industrials and Consumer Durables, Arihant Capital Markets Ltd

Understood. Understood. Thank you so much for the clarification, sir.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

Thank you, thank you! Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, your time constraint. That was the last question of question and answer session. I would like to hand the conference over to Mr. Dinesh Patidar for closing comments.

Dinesh Patidar
Managing Director, Shakti Pumps

[Foreign language].

Operator

Thank you on behalf of Shakti Pumps (India) Limited. That concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us and you may now disconnect your.

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