Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Bajaj Consumer Q2 FY 2026 earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during this conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star, then zero on your touch-tone phone. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Dhiraj Mistry from ICICI Securities. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Hi, good morning, everyone. We welcome you on Bajaj Consumer 2Q FY 2026 earnings call, and I would like to thank management for giving this opportunity to host the call. We have with us Mr. Naveen Pandey, Managing Director, Mr. Dilip Kumar Maloo, CFO, and Mr. Aakash Gupta, Head of Finance. Over to you, Naveen, for your opening commentary. Thank you.
Conference call pertaining to the results for the quarter ended September 30th, 2025. This was a good quarter for us, demonstrating early results of the actions initiated by us towards improving our revenue growth and margins. When viewed sequentially, it gives us the confidence to proceed on the path which we have charted for ourselves. On a standalone basis, the sales for the company stood at INR 241.6 crore, registering a growth of 7.2% on a YoY basis, whereas on the consolidated basis, the sales stood at INR 261.4 crore, with a growth of 13.3%. The gross margin for the quarter on a standalone basis stood at 59.3%, registering a significant improvement of 680 basis points YoY.
A series of structured interventions have helped us deliver this, namely strategic pricing, which was executed in Q1 and came into full effect in Q2, active change in portfolio mix, and a series of productivity actions. EBITDA on a standalone basis for Q2 grew by 42% to deliver an EBITDA absolute EBITDA of INR 49.6 crore, which translated into an EBITDA margin of 20.5%, 500 basis point movements over the same period last year. On a consolidated basis, our EBITDA grew by 45% to translate into a margin of 18.6%, which was also a 400+ basis point improvement. Standalone PAT for quarter two stood at INR 43 crore, with a margin of 17.8%, and the consolidated PAT was INR 42.3 crore, with a margin of 16.2%.
This quarter also saw a strong recovery in our general trade channel, which registered a growth of 5% YoY, and it came on the back of strong double-digit growth in urban. Both the key sub-channels in urban, namely direct retail and wholesale, have done well for us. In retail, we have got strong results on the back of nearly 38,000+ outlets getting added to our direct coverage over the past few quarters under Project Aarohan. In wholesale, we have fixed hygiene and discipline issues to a great extent, and the same is reflected in the steady revenues and strong growth for the sub-channels. Rural business is still a work in progress for us, where we are undergoing a GTM transition as part of the overall Aarohan initiative. We expect rural to fully bounce back over the next couple of quarters.
Organized trade registered a strong double-digit growth YoY in quarter two FY 2026. Salience of this channel stood at 31%, with OT, modern trade within OT, modern trade, and e-commerce both grew very well in the strong 20s. This performance was driven by very solid contribution across chains and supported by customer activation for festive sales. At a brand level, our revenues were supported in this channel by very strong performances on both ADHO and Bajaj CNO. In the sub-channels of CSD and CPC, we witnessed a steep decline because of nearly zero sales in the month of September, which came on the back of the GST transition. In international business, we had a very poor quarter, with revenues declining by 26% YoY.
This was primarily because of our internal issues in transition of distributor in India and some external bids in the rest of world markets, namely U.S. and some of the others. In our core markets of Bangladesh, we registered a growth of 8% YoY. In the market of Nepal, we had a temporary setback due to the political uncertainty and instability in the month of August and September. We expect Nepal to normalize very soon and this business to be back on track. Moving ahead, at a brand level, I'm very happy to share that ADHO has delivered a double-digit revenue growth in India, backed by the full effect of pricing changes reflected in this quarter. Our initiatives on mix change and revenue management are delivering very, very well for us. The volume growth on this brand was flattish.
We saw a revival in the price point PATs, which grew in high single digits. Price point PATs are our sachets, which is a big mix for us, as well as the price points of INR 10 and INR 20. These PATs combined grew in the high single digit, signaling a strong broad-based demand revival for us. The larger PAT grew even faster at strong double digits. Our focus on supporting ADHO saw us investing over 2,100 GRPs, with increased focus on prime time and top-rated show. This investment in GRP is nearly a 50% increase over the same period last month. In addition to this, we also doubled down on our investments behind digital marketing. Across platforms like YouTube, OTT, connected TV, and Meta, we ran a very, very serious campaign delivering over INR 22 crore impressions for us.
Bajaj Coconut witnessed a muted quarter with 3% revenue growth in quarter two. This was on account of reduced inputs and steep price hikes. While on a longer-term trend, we continue to gain market share in this category, we've seen a short-term decline in market share over the past few months. In this market, we've also witnessed a movement of consumers from pure CNO to [WACNO], given the sharp prices which have happened in the CNO category. To capitalize on this trend, in September, we launched Bajaj Gold Enrich Coconut Air Oil. This launch will help us have a portfolio approach to CNO business and will help us counter rising copra prices and manage profitability of the segment in a much better way. This launch was also one of the fastest ever by our team and gives us confidence in our ability to innovate and act fast.
The Banjara brand under Vishal Personal Care registered a top line of INR 14.5 crore, with 11.5% growth on a YoY basis. The EBITDA margin for this business remained in a very healthy mid-teen. For the post-merger integration, we had partnered with one of the leading consulting firms to help us design and integrate the operation. We had shared this with in the past quarter call. This exercise has now already started and is progressing very well. In one state, we had taken up a complete integration of our entire sales and distribution setup, and the early signs from that state are very, very positive. We are seeing that this has benefited in terms of delta growth across both the Banjara as well as the BCCL portfolio.
This quarter was also marked by government's announcement of the landmark GST 2 measure, a portfolio which is a pivotal step towards enhancing affordability and increasing consumers' purchasing power, laying the foundation for very strong consumption and demand acceleration for the overall economy. With this change, I'm happy to report that BCCL's nearly 100% portfolio is now at 5%. Only Banjara portfolio remains on a consolidated level at 18%, but nearly all of the historical BCCL portfolio is now at 5%. We believe this GST is a very, very reduction of a very strong structural positive move to unleash demand growth in the quarters to come, and we shall see the benefit of it in the subsequent quarters.
While this is an overall net positive, on a temporary basis, we saw some channel destocking, which happened in the month of September, and we believe that we would have suffered somewhere to the extent of 3% of quarter revenue. We believe this loss is temporary and one-time in nature, and the overall move is a strong positive for us and for the overall economy. On the input cost, LLP prices have been moving in a narrow range in the last two to three quarters. On a YoY basis, LLP prices are down close to 7% against the same period last year. In the other key raw materials for us, we are witnessing a very strong inflation of close to 40% on RMO, and copra prices, as we all know, are more than doubled.
We expect over the next few months this basket to remain range-bound, and we will keep you updated as and when we see changes. However, we are maintaining a very tight watch and will respond with swift changes as and when needed. Looking ahead, we will continue to focus on reviving double-digit revenue growth with a strong focus on supporting our core brand Almond Drops through the innovation initiatives and distribution expansion on behalf of Project Aarohan and enhanced level of advertising. Our focus on leveraging organized trade channel and working on sustainable diversification of the adjacent portfolio will continue. Thank you. Back to you, Dhiraj. Dhiraj, I hope you picked up. Transferring call back to you.
Sir, should we begin with the question and answer session now?
Yes, please.
Thank you very much. We will now begin with the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question is from the line of Percy from IIFL Securities. Please go ahead.
Hi sir. Just wanted to understand the pricing of ADHO. I believe the volume growth is flat, and the sales growth of ADHO is in double digits. Has there been a double-digit pricing, or is this some big mix shift also in this equation?
Yes, Percy. As I was explaining, this is coming out of three kinds of factors, the difference between the volume and the value growth. The first is what you will see as straight pricing. Second, what we have done is that we have worked on a mix change. As you know, across PAT levels, we have very different price realizations. What we have done is that we have really concentrated on improving the mix, and that is basically yielding and contributing to the gap.
The third delta which we are getting from is also revenue management, wherein we have taken initiatives to maximize the net revenue to the MRP cascade by optimizing spends in between. It is a combination of all three which basically adds to the gap between the volume and the value.
Would you be able to roughly split up these three portions as a percentage? Let's say 100% is the total, is the price increase 70% or what it is?
Broadly, Percy, yes. Let's say the largest portion does come from pricing, and the other two are combined lesser than the pricing. That is what I will say. Your sense is by and large in the similar direction.
Understood. You mentioned rural is still weak. As far as the volume growth is concerned, how much is the gap between rural and urban?
There is a 600 basis pont-700 basis point gap, Percy, between urban and rural. We believe that most of it is internal. I think as we go across and complete our measures, we should be able to fix this over a period of time.
If you have taken, let's say, whatever 7% or whatever that number is, price increase, and I mean, most of the heroic players in the market have not taken such a big price increase at the same time, how is this getting accepted in the market? Generally, when we see that only one player is taking a material price increase whereas others are holding the line, we see significant market share loss for that player. Are you concerned about that issue going ahead?
First of all, Percy, I think we need to look at price increase in two lights.
One, what has been the cumulative price increase over a period? When you start looking at it, what has been the price increase over the past two years, three years, five years window? There was a certain amount of catch-up which was there because we had not taken fair pricing in the, let's say, maybe period between in the past five, seven years. In the first half of that period, we had not taken adequate pricing. Hence, on a cumulative basis, if you were to look at pricing, we are still within the band of the category and the industry. The second thing you need to look at in terms of referencing is that we have referencing on products on the two end. On the premium end, our reference basically for our brand goes to coconut.
If you look at coconut, we are at one of the lowest price indices to coconut than historically we've ever operated in the past two decades or plus, and we are at the lowest level of references. On the cheaper end, yes, you can reference us to Amla, and therein our price premium against Amla would have narrowly gone up. We are not too concerned about it. On an overall level, the way we are tracking is we are tracking our volume market share very, very closely every month. In fact, as a cumulative result of all our actions.
Sorry, sir, you heard your voice from the side.
Sorry, there is some static from someone. Can you put everybody on mute? Moderator, can you please put everyone on mute?
Yes, sir. Sure.
Please unmute Percy back only so that we can have the conversation. Thank you. Percy, what I was saying is that we are monitoring our volume market share very, very closely, which is actually the truest measure of how our consumption is at the lowest level. What we are seeing is that our near-term volume market share has actually moved a bit up. It is a minor move. I will not start celebrating it so far. Against last year, we are only up on volume market share. We will keep on monitoring very, very closely. As of now, we feel confident about the actions we have taken and the direction we are moving.
Can you call out what is the impact on the top line as well as the EBITDA level from the GST-related disruptions this quarter?
Percy, as I said, broadly, the belief which we have is there is no very scientific way to calculate it. We believe we have lost close to 10% revenue in the month of September or close to around 3% of the quarter revenue because of this gap.
Any kind of extra promotions, discounting, etc., to clear the old stock would affect the margin?
A little bit. Little bit. Not very materially significant at the quarter level, but yes, a little bit.
Okay. Last question, if I might. Basically, you have done about 18% margin this quarter. I think the target was to get somewhere close to about 20%. Do we see that additional 200 basis points coming in a quarter or two, or now that we are at 18%, the further increments will be very slow?
Percy, I think the low-lying fruits have been kind of sorted and taken care of. Also, what we need to remember is that because of the GST, we had to pass on the benefits, and there have been a lot of changes on a price pack level. There would be a certain amount of stability for a couple of quarters before any kind of actions get taken place. Expect a stability in the medium term. We remain committed in the longer period, basically towards that further incremental journey for the margins. Expect a near-term stability and then again a movement.
Okay, sir. That's all from me. Thanks and all the best.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of [Ayush] from Shravas Capital. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Hi. Am I audible?
Yes, please.
Yeah. Congrats on a good set of numbers. See, I just have two questions. The first one would be I just wanted to understand the nature of the two related-party transactions. It says there are purchases of residential flats to the tune of INR 25 crore. If you could just throw some color on what these transactions are.
The related-party transaction is because this asset has been acquired from a group-related entity. What we are doing is that we are creating a guesthouse setup as part of an overall cost-saving measure. As you know, we are headquartered in Bombay, and we have a lot of people internally traveling into the city, and we primarily relied on hotels to stay for those people. As part of the measure, we have created a guesthouse setup. This is the cost of the acquiring of the asset. Since it is acquired from a group entity, it is being disclosed as a related-party transaction.
Understood.
Yeah.
Just one more question. Going forward, how do we see this incremental top-line growth coming from? Is it going to be driven by price hikes, or are we going to change the mix, or is it going to be a volume push? I just want to understand how is the management thinking in terms of top-line growth.
It will be a volume and a mix-driven growth. Pricing is always something which is a longer-term will not be more than inflation or less than it will always be less than inflation. Yes, while you are seeing a one-time effect coming in, in the long term, our belief is always to drive volume-based growth. Yes, mix improvement will also be a substantial part of it.
Also, any guidance on how many retail touchpoints you'll be trying to add in the coming quarter?
See, we want to add on a consistent basis. We want to improve our distribution by 8%-10% every year over the next three to four years. Obviously, the nature of the beast is such that it will not come uniformly across quarter or year, but that is the direction in which we are working. We would want, over a period of four to five years, our distribution direct to go from x to 1.5x, and I think that's what we are working towards.
Understood. All the best. All the best for the future. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. A reminder to all participants, you may press star and one to ask a question. The next question is from the line of [Shireesh Perwiti] from Motilal Oswal. Please go ahead.
Hi, Naveen. T hanks for the opportunity. Two questions. On the ADHO, when I look back a year before, we had a flat volume growth. And this year, again, you are saying that it is flat. I am more curious, what is the heroic contribution for ADHO and non-ADHO heroic?
Sorry, I'm not very clear on the question. Can you please repeat the question once again?
If I look back, a year before, we had a flat volume growth in ADHO business. Today, when you announce, again, it is flat. I am more curious that what is the heroic contribution for ADHO and non-ADHO heroic if the total is 100%?
ADHO overall, when we are reporting ADHO, we only mean hair oil. AD extensions we are looking at separately. When we are saying your flat performance, we are talking about volume on only hair oil. Only hair oil as a business contribution is 80%+ for our portfolio, not accounting into the other AD extensions which we have done. If you look at a very long-term trend, not one quarter, two quarters, but if you look at a long-term trend, we have lost volume on ADHO, and that has been our trend over the medium term, wherein we have had negative growth on volume on ADHO. We see that trend very clearly reversing and us getting into stable volumes. Along with that, we have been able to, within ADHO, change a lot of mix towards selling more profitable SKUs rather than less profitable and less priced SKUs.
That is resulting into a delta growth over and above the price increases which we have taken. I hope I've been able to clarify.
Have you rationalized any of the SKUs because LUP is still growing faster for us?
LUP is growing. It is not growing faster than the overall portfolio. I think that's what I meant. The larger packs are growing more faster. LUP is also growing after a long gap. That's a very happy state because LUP, as you know, the number of transactions and the number of people the pack goes to is always a very good indicator of the overall demand environment and the acceptability of the brand. That is growing after a long gap. We are seeing good sachet growth after a long period. Those are all heartening measures.
Okay. My next question is on Project Aarohan. In quarter four, we started with UP and MP. Is there any tangible benefit after three quarters in terms of STR or net distribution or something you can share?
See, broadly, what we are trying to do in Aarohan is we are trying to increase our direct representation across both urban markets and rural markets. As you have been tracking, we had issues around wholesale a period of time back, wherein wholesale channel became a problem for us. We are trying to streamline and get wholesale to be well-behaved, steady, growing like most other FMCGs. That is, in simple, what we are trying to do through Aarohan. In the urban market, where we have implemented the changes, we started exactly as you said with LUP, and then we have extended it across to around close to eight states right now. What we are witnessing across states is we are witnessing an increase in our direct distribution and the outlet addition, which I told you has happened. That has led into my direct retail growing very well.
In rural, we've made a lot of structural changes, including how we are going and how we are distributing into the market. Those changes have been a bit disruptive for us, and hence, rural has not been performing well. Wholesale, overall, with the measures which we've done in terms of stability of rates and practices, has rebounded back very well. That is reflected not only in the wholesale performance but also in performance of SKUs, which are very wholesale-dependent like sachet and INR 10, which are seeing very good across the board, across states' growth. Overall, I'll say Aarohan, we are a strong green as far as it comes to urban and wholesale right now. In rural, it is a bit more complicated work, taking a bit more time.
I think we will take a couple of more quarters before we are able to get Aarohan and rural to also become a green for us.
Okay. Just one follow-up. Assume that if wholesale was 60% a year before, if the Aarohan is targeted to bring this wholesale to maybe 30%-40%.
We are not looking at any specific measure of bringing down wholesale. If wholesale keeps on growing in line with our retail growth, we are driving overall retail growth. We are also trying to prepare a system which can manage a more broader portfolio from us. I think those are the two measures we are looking at. We are not really looking at cutting down wholesale. In fact, each of the channels have their separate roles, and we would be putting in new products and new SKUs into those channels to try and maximize the opportunity within those sub-channels. We are not looking at it from a cutting down of wholesale perspective, but more as a growth in direct distribution and building strength of retail execution. I think that is the way you should look at our beliefs.
Just one last follow-up on this Project Aarohan. I think eight states will contribute roughly what percentage of our sales?
The overall contribution of these eight states, just pause a second, but my sense is it will be close to around 60%-65% of our overall business.
Okay.
Two-thirds broadly.
Okay. My second and last question. You mentioned that GST disruption has happened, and you have taken a price increase. You also said that it is accepted well. I am more curious, is the trade settlement and how much stock would have reached if the 100% retail is covered now with the new MRP?
First clarification, we have taken the price increase in quarter one. Because it came in towards price increase, as you know, and our business takes 45-60 days to get executed, what we are seeing in Q2 is the full benefit of the price increase we took in Q1. We have not taken any fresh price increase in Q2. I think that is the first clarification. The second is, in Q2, what we have to do is that as the new GST came in, we had to pass on the GST benefits to the consumer. That meant price drops in many SKUs. It meant extra volume in terms of the price point SKUs. Those were executed ASAP wherever we could. I think towards the end of the month, except for one or two SKUs, we had transited to the new GST benefit SKUs there.
That stock, in terms of our primary, got transited between September and October in terms of the company system. In terms of the distributor system, it is getting transited between October and November in the market. I think November and December, by and large, the retailers should all carry the new GST benefit stock in the trade. That's broadly my belief.
Yeah. I understand that. What I wanted to check with you, Naveen, this 85% portfolio has seen the GST revision. Now, obviously, with GST revision, our prices would have come down. We will have the price impact in quarter three. That is what I wanted to check.
Price impact, you're saying in terms of net revenue?
Yes.
No, net revenue will not have a price impact because net revenue is x of GST. Net revenue will remain constant. Net revenue will not see any benefit going, any loss coming up. In fact, there are packs where we are adding extra volume, wherein the net revenue will actually end up going up. For example, in a sachet, INR 1 sachet, earlier, the net revenue recognized was 18% - of INR 1. Now, the net revenue recognized would be 5% - INR 1. The benefit there is being given in terms of extra volume. In case of, let's say, a larger pack, wherein there has been a price drop, the drop price - 5% would be equal to the earlier price minus whatever, 18% or so. Hence, there is no net revenue decrease or a realization decrease which you should factor on basis of the GST change.
Are you trying to say that a bit too high single-digit price and mid-digit volume, so we aspire maybe 10% + growth in second half?
Yes, we aspire for that. I think, yeah, that's the way you should look at it. In terms of against last year, we obviously, our stated aspiration is to get into double-digit growth. We are a bit disappointed that we are slightly short in this quarter, but we will continue with our attempt to get to that level.
Okay. Thank you and all the best.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of [Purshotham from Wise Old World]. Please go ahead.
Hi, hello sir. I have one question on this Banjara acquisition benefits. When will we see, you have mentioned in the call that one state we have started the merger and we are seeing the benefit. When do we see the full-scale benefit of Banjara acquisition?
I think you'll have to give it.
I think you'll have to give it a few quarters. Acquisition and a structural integration is a bit complicated process. We are going through the integration this year, and this year will get taken in terms of the integration. As we get into the next year, we should start seeing some of these benefits of the acquisition starting to come through.
Okay. Are there any other acquisitions in the pipeline?
Obviously, I can't comment on that.
Yeah, no, we recently had a buyback. I know that. Still, as you have come now, whether we have something in the mind for any acquisition?
We've stated in the past, and I'll state again, we will be open for acquisitions. However, right now, we've just done an acquisition. Our effort is to make the best use of that acquisition. Whenever we come across something which is exciting to us, we will evaluate it. As and when we evaluate, we will come and disclose to the market as per the norms. Obviously, nothing happening right now.
Okay. Okay. Okay. So we are aiming to have a revenue target of 10% for next three, five years. That is what we have in our mindset.
Yes, we want to. Our long-term CAGRs have been low single-digit. We want to move from there substantially higher to a double-digit kind of a growth CAGR looking forward.
Okay. Okay, sir.
That's the desire and guidance. Please always remember that.
Okay.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Dhiraj Mistry from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Hi. Hi, Naveen. Just one follow-up question to what Shireesh was asking was, what percentage of our revenue is in a portfolio where you have taken price cut, and what percentage of portfolio where you have taken volume adjustment?
Broadly, as you know, Dhiraj, price point packs are somewhere where we give, where we want to maintain the prices on certain price points or where we give volume. The other are the packs where we take pricing. Broadly, if you were to say, there is an equal but a slightly whatever mix towards volume and price. More or less same. Overall, the benefit, if you were to look at what has been passed to the consumer, is equal across both these buckets. We have kept that within mind. The overall benefit which we passed is slightly ahead of what the benefit is accruing to our peers. We have gone ahead and ensured that we pass on a slightly higher benefit.
Yeah. Any impact of inverted tax on this? Because our complete portfolio is now at 5%, let's say largely towards 5%, whereas in certain expenses, we would be paying high GST. Is there any impact of that?
Yes, there would be some impact of that, Dhiraj. We are fully studying it and understanding that impact. It is pretty much like the other companies in the sector who have faced a similar transition. We are also trying to figure out how we can work on that and make our structures more efficient on getting that gap reduced. As in, when we are ready, we will come and talk about what actions we are planning to take or if government gives any clarification. You know what is the current status on that as of now.
Yeah. Yeah. Would you like to quantify that right now?
See, I would not want to get into it. I think let's get full clarity around what is this. The way we've executed the price decrease in the market, as I said, it has been slightly ahead of the net benefit which we are getting. We don't expect it to be very materially significant. Also, the optimization of this higher GST inverted structure will happen over a period of time. I don't think so. Suddenly, next quarter, we are going to get into a series of actions wherein we are going to fix the inverted structure. From your lens, you should not be too materially concerned about it at the moment. As and when we are doing the actions, we will keep the community updated about what we are doing.
Noted. Noted. Second question is on this 3% impact which we had on GST transition. Do you expect this full recovery to happen in 3Q, or it would be more of a gradual in nature, and it would be spread out over the quarters?
Dhiraj, again, very difficult to predict. If you were to put me in a spot like that, I think we will see how the transition goes through the quarter. Historically, what we've seen is that whenever inventories get corrected sharply, they take a time to cover back. It is not an immediate fill back which happens. Our lessons from GST 1 and demonetization have been similar. What will end up happening is anybody's guess. If you were to look at past learning, it always takes time for the inventory levels to normalize.
Got it. Got it. Usually, what is the inventory level we have at the distributor end versus now?
Usually, we maintain between three to four weeks of inventory in the system. That is into the general trade portion. You can use these two to calculate.
Got it. Got it. Second, on this non-ADHO portfolio. Historically, we used to guide that we want to aspire a certain percentage of our portfolio to come from non-ADHO portfolio. Do you have any numbers in mind, not from the near-term perspective, but from the long-term perspective, let's say three to four years down the line, where do you see, where do you want to see your non-ADHO portfolio? Related to that, how's the margin profile going to pan out in this part of the portfolio? My understanding is that it would require much more substantial marketing spend compared to ADHO going ahead to scale up those brands.
Dhiraj, I'm sharing with you what I'm prepared to share at the moment. That is as follows. If you look at the long term, obviously, we aspire for the non-ADHO portion to grow ahead of ADHO. Hence, what it would mean is that if today the mix is broadly, let's say, whatever, 80/20, that mix will move more in favor of non-ADHO in the period of time. I'm not prepared to quantify a number as on date because we are in the process of formulating a long-term strategy and doing that. The second thing for us is that the non-ADHO portfolio comes in at a certain higher investment, as you said. We need to fix up what exact level of investment for which of the brands which comprise the entire non-ADHO portfolio. We will make certain choices.
Hence, certain brands might get higher level of investment than what they've got in the past, and some might not be choised in. We are working through this process and formulating our medium-term strategy, medium to long-term strategy. As and when we are more clear and committed on it, we will come and share with you. As of now, this is all I would want to share.
Sure. Sure. I will fall back in the queue. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Deepak Ajmera from I G E (INDIA). Please go ahead.
Yeah. Hi, I'll say this. So my question is to the tune of margin expansion into this particular quarter. We have realized the margin expansion. I just seek for the management guidance, what could be the steady state, and is it the sustainable one?
See, as a practice, we would not like to give margin guidances either for near term. However, what we've stated is that, see, if you look at the FMCG category of the consumer group companies, consumer group companies operate in EBITDA margins which are in the 20s. When we started this journey, we were operating at significantly less margins. In a medium to long term, we would want to operate into category level of margins. That's all I would want to share as a direction. We would avoid giving any guidances either for the next quarter or for the balance of year or anything like that.
Got it. Secondly, on the product innovation side, what is the company's outlook for new product launches?
Right now, I think, as you're aware, I've joined the business around four-five months back. We've done a lot of launches over the past four-five years. My objective is to first streamline our portfolio, identify the bets within which what we've done or what could be bigger and more meaningful, reviving ADHO growth. I think that has been the first immediate priority. I would say we are not even halfway into that journey. We will look at more innovative products in times to come. I think that is something which we should expect more in next year rather than in the balance of the year.
Got it. So from a near-term perspective, do we have any chance to see the product like Bajaj Serum, Bajaj Wax, or hair cream, or hair gel kind of product?
We already have serum. I think we need to do more justice to it since you're not aware of it. I think that just goes ahead and emphasizes the point. We have some portfolio products which we need to do better. And some of the others, yes, could be in the discussion, but not as of now.
Got it. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of [Nilesh Sharma] from Ananthan Skycon Private Limited. Please go ahead.
Good morning, sir. My question is, is there any plan of the management to use the flexi products like ADHO in the near term?
I'm sorry. I was not able to hear you clearly. Can you please repeat?
Is there any plan of the management to introduce a flexi product apart from ADHO?
Flagship product besides ADHO. Obviously, the intent would be to build up more larger mega brands as we go forward. That is the point which I was saying that I think we will take some time to focus and get our medium to long-term strategy in place. Then we will talk about which of our bets we would want to significantly dial up and make them much, much bigger somewhere in the line of ADHO. We will talk to you as and when we are ready about it.
Okay. Then coming three to five years, what is the plan of return on capital employed that management is expecting to achieve?
If you look, we basically would not again want to give any guidances. If you want to understand any specific input which can be shared, please be in touch with our investor relation team. They will share with you if we can.
Okay. Okay. Thank you, sir.
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Thank you. I would like to take the opportunity to thank you all for taking time to attend the call and for your questions. Over the past quarter, we've seen the business gather strong momentum both on growth and improvement of margins. While we are very happy with the progress made by us, we continue to remain committed to our desire to achieve long-term sustained growth and shall stay focused on working towards the same in subsequent quarters. Thank you and have a great day ahead.
On behalf of ICICI Securities Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.