Camil Alimentos S.A. (BVMF:CAML3)
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M&A Announcement

Jul 28, 2021

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Camil Alimentos call. With us today, Mr. Luciano Quartiero, CEO, Mr. Flavio Vargas, CFO and IR Officer, and the company's IR team. Should you need assistance during this call, please press star zero to reach the operator. The audio is simultaneously available in the company's IR website. Management's forward-looking statements and the Q&A session may include projections about future events, which are subject to risks and uncertainties, therefore, may or may not happen or may be different from what was expected. Please, Mr. Luciano and Mr. Flavio, you may begin.

Flavio Vargas
CFO and IR Officer, Camil Alimentos

Good morning, everyone. Luciano, please.

Luciano Quartiero
CEO, Camil Alimentos

Flavio, I will start with a brief introduction. I'm not in São Paulo, so I don't have a good connection. I will start with some brief remarks and turn the floor to Flavio. I would like to say that the company is very pleased about this acquisition in Ecuador. The company is in line with our strategy. We have been saying that this is our strategy for the past few years, and that's what the company intends to do, which is to have organic and inorganic growth in and out of Brazil, in rice, and also in new categories.

This step in Ecuador with rice goes along with what the company has done in Uruguay, Chile, and that is we are going into a new country in a rice operation, which is the company's origin. What the company learns faster in terms of operations, we are acquiring a company that has a leading position in Ecuador. We expect to do something very much in line to what has been done in other countries, especially efficiency improvement, because since this is another country, it doesn't have that many synergies with Brazil. I am concerned about connection, and I will turn the floor to Flavio so that he can start the presentation.

Flavio Vargas
CFO and IR Officer, Camil Alimentos

Thank you, Luciano. Good morning, everyone. I think today is a day when we wake up very happy to be able to announce this new acquisition of the company, to go into a new geography with the acquisition of Dajahu. We go into the Ecuadorian market. Like Luciano said, this is part of our strategy of having a food company in Latin America, a Brazilian multinational company that is relevant, working in attractive markets, and also working in a leading position in each one of the segments.

When we look at the Ecuadorian market, this is a market that for us, who work with rice, this is a market that makes sense. This country has around 17 million inhabitants, and it has had a special growth economically. Rice is very important in Ecuadorians' diet, just like here in Brazil. It is the main input in Ecuadorians' daily meals. This country operates around 1,700,000 tons of rice. This amount that is produced and sold in the country turns it even a larger market than Uruguay, Paraguay, and Chile, basically 50%-60% larger than these other markets. This is a market that, for us, is important. We want to become a leading company, a very relevant multinational company in Latin America. This was a step, and this is a step that makes sense. The opportunity arose, and we made the deal.

We acquired Dajahu. This is a well-structured company, especially for the local standards. This is a company that really attract us because just like us and the way that we like to work, this is a company that is very relevant in the domestic market. It is a leading company with around 20% of the market of aged rice. Aged rice is a special product in the Ecuadorian market. It's a premium product, and you can have a better performance because the rice is wider, is looser. This is a process that was developed in the country where you can accelerate that storing process for rice. The older is the rice, better will be its performance on the pans. It's also very relevant. It has 7% of local consumption when you consider all segments and end products. We understand that it is a great platform.

The company is among the main companies in the country. It is one of the largest in the food industry there. It does have relevant brands for their domestic market, and the domestic market has a lot of the production there. We understand that there is an opportunity to migrate to products of higher added value. This is a company that when we look at the productive point of view, it does have a production capacity. This is a company that was losing a little bit in terms of the rice processing. It has a possibility to be expanded productively and also market-wise. This is a fragmented market there, so we do have an opportunity to make a consolidation in the country. This company today is only in the 50% in the country, so there is an opportunity to enter other areas and therefore providing additional growth.

What we expect is what Luciano mentioned, that as we go in, we should be able to contribute with capital and intelligence. Capital seems to be a very determinant topic in the country. The other players in the country have difficult access to capital. We understand that going in with capital will help us in terms of growth, and it is going to allow us to explore purchasing opportunities so that we can maximize our return. We also expect to have efficiency gains there, both in supplying and purchases, procurement and industrial logistics, and both in terms of products and distribution as well. What we expect with this acquisition is that we are able to replicate what happened in Uruguay, Peru, and Chile, where we were able to have growth and volume.

Here we believe we do have a relevant growth opportunity and also a better margin improvement because of scale gain and this efficiency leverage that we are going to go after over the years. In summary, we have a growth platform. Our focus year in the short term is 100% in rice. This is the company's DNA. This is what we know how to work with. We will try to analyze what we can improve or what are the opportunities to improve, both in the organic growth as well as in this increase in profitability. We understand that this first step in the future may represent a possibility to go into other categories in the consumption sector. We also see that in Ecuador, it might mean a synergy with our fish products.

This is important exporting country for tuna fish for instance, and that's important for us as well. To be close to this market, we think that at some point we'll be able to look for synergies in also this other area. we are bringing in the capital knowledge, and we want to drive up the profitability of this operation. in terms of financing, we hired IFC, International Finance Corporation, to support us and to assist us in financing. not only because the price is competitive and the term of this financing is special, but also because it stresses all our ESG agenda, which is also becoming a focus of the company. In order to have financing, we have to be submitted to a strict diligence in the environmental area, and we have that commitment.

Having that approval by the IFC, we understand that this is very important to stress all our commitment with the ESG agenda. We are announcing today that we signed the contract to conclude the transaction. We believe that's going to take up to 60 days, and we have to meet all the terms, and also the seller has some topics to meet so that we can finalize the transaction. In terms of multiples, we have paid a multiple that we understood that was right considering the size of the business and also the growth opportunities we foresee. What we feel in this enthusiasm is that differently from last year, when talks in the business environments were more introspective, and the companies were very much focused inwards to understand what the pandemic would cause and how everyone could overcome this.

Now we see that the business environment this year has changed. We are taking this step, that's a non-organic step, that's very important, and we are hopeful that we will be able to conclude and move forward in other conversations because of this process, which is being different this year. Now I end here my initial remarks. I will open this call for the Q&A session.

Operator

We will now start the Q&A session for analysts and investors. Should you have a question, please press star one. Our first question is from Guilherme Palhares, Bank of America.

Guilherme Palhares
Analyst, Bank of America

Good morning, Luciano and Flavio. My first question is about some operating opportunities between these two companies and synergies from then on. Do you have a number in terms of synergies that you expect when you look at the margin differential that Camil has?

Can you think about any convergence there? Also, in terms of headcount, the current team of the company will be the same? Are you going to bring in anyone to this new operation? Finally, you just mentioned, Flavio. Is it fair to say that in despite of this movement, the company is still active in the M&A market in terms of opportunities and the opportunities that are still on the table. Thank you.

Flavio Vargas
CFO and IR Officer, Camil Alimentos

Guilherme, thank you very much for your questions. In terms of synergies, I don't want to give you a figure in here, but our expectation, in fact, is that we are able to improve the company's profitability. Today, they operate around 8%.

What we understand is that with what we can bring in terms of improvements, efficiency industrial area, also procurement, and we see a lot of opportunities in procurement because there is a capital deficit in the company. We come in with working capital, and we understand that can allow us to buy products at a special price. We also believe that by having a more aggressive approach, we can grow our size in terms of fixed costs as well. Yes, we do expect to improve the company's margin. We believe that we will be able to have that convergence because they are operating at eight and we are operating at 10. I think it's too early to say where we can get because we still need to know more about the operation and the market, the local market, I mean.

Now, in terms of operations, we have here as the way we work, we try to allow the local teams to be independent. This is something we learned over the years. When we acquired Uruguay, we sent two people from Brazil. Chile, we sent one person there, and in Peru, we were comfortable keeping the whole team there. I believe that in this operation, we have more or less the same understanding. We will use all the ability, the skills, and the knowledge of the local team. Obviously, the seller, the owner of the business, and the person that was there every day, that person is going to lead the everyday managing of the company. This person will be helping us so that we switch that management, and we should send someone here from international operations also to take over that local operation.

The idea is that we like to allow them to have autonomy, and this is what we try to give to local teams. In terms of M&A, the answer is yes. When we talk and we discuss here internally, we say that we have two restrictions. One of them is operating how many operations we can run and integrate in the company, and the financial restriction. The financial restriction is always easier to tackle because we can look for financing loans. We can increase the company's capital to finance an acquisition. Also we have the operation side of it. For the operation itself, the way we organize ourselves is under the responsibility of our officer that watches over international operations.

We are still comfortable here because both areas, financially and operationally, we still have room, both in the domestic market as well as in the international one.

Guilherme Palhares
Analyst, Bank of America

Perfect. Thank you very much.

Operator

Next question from Lucas Ferreira, JP Morgan.

Lucas Ferreira
Analyst, JPMorgan

Hello, Flavio. Flavio, in the last 12 months, the figure that we see, what that represents in the history, this 8% of margin, the volume, that revenue and the cycle, have they benefited last year from COVID or not? How does that compare with the history of the company in terms of profitability? What do you expect for the next 12 months for the company so that we can better understand the valuation here? Was it higher than what was expected or lower? Just to confirm, you said BRL 10 million, and I don't know how much you have in terms of interest charges in IFC.

Usually that takes off your profit. Do you confirm that, or do you have anything else that allows 2021 to be different for you? Thank you.

Flavio Vargas
CFO and IR Officer, Camil Alimentos

Well, in terms of size, the company had growth, was posting growth, yes. This year, and so far, they are more or less with a sideways performance, and we do have last year's performance. We need to set our foot in the country to be able to use that as a driver for growth. In the short term, we will have to learn so that we can boost the operation, but we believe we can have a sustainable growth in the operation and have operating and profitability gains with the drivers that I mentioned before. In the financial point of view, this is an acquisition that is 100% leveraged.

We will be using IFC's support for the funding, not only of the equity that we are paying for, but also this working capital that we understand that is going to be needed to be able to do investments in machinery and so on. When you look at the consolidated results and see a small impact in the bottom line because of the size of the operation. The way we look at it is that when you look at the country and this ambition to be an international company with relevance in Latin America in rice and food industry, this is an operation that makes sense. More than looking at the numbers, we are very optimistic that we will be able to drive up results out of this business.

Lucas Ferreira
Analyst, JPMorgan

Thank you.

Operator

Next question from Gustavo Troyano, Itaú BBA.

Gustavo Troyano
Analyst, Itaú BBA

Good morning, Flavio. Thank you for taking my question. My question is about the mix of products of the acquired company. Can you talk about the margin difference between the premium products, which I believe are the main ones in the portfolio of Dajahu, and the economic products that you mentioned in the portfolio. Still on the premium, can you tell us what are the main technology differences that the process for aged rice involves here in processing and packaging of rice? Thank you.

Flavio Vargas
CFO and IR Officer, Camil Alimentos

Hello. Well, I think about the mix. It's not much different from what we have in Brazil. Obviously, with some products, we end up having a higher margin in premium products differently from an economy product. For the company specifically, they have a profitability of a relative base that is higher because of the industrial characteristic that they have today. They do not purchase paddy rice.

That allows us to have lower competitiveness because they have a greater focus in the aged rice. That's how they can have a product that is of a more premium characteristic. In terms of operations, this is one of the drivers that we try to study to bring in more scale to purchase straight from producers. This will allow us to become more competitive as well in white rice. That is a fact. They have greater competitiveness now in aged rice than in white rice. That's very similar to margin differences that we have here in Brazil. In terms of technology, the Ecuadorian market developed the following. In order for them to have a better performance and to have that loose rice, you have to have a sustainable rice, and that happens all over the world.

When you are working with good rice, especially the one for the Brazilians, that's an older rice. You receive the rice, you send it to the silo, and you wait for a few months. The rice rests there and it becomes looser. The technology that they developed for aged rice is that they start with a white rice, they heat up the rice for a certain period of time, and then they let it cool off. Even if it is a new rice, it starts to have that older rice characteristic. It gets looser and wider. In terms of the business point of view, this technology ends up bringing down your capital allocation because you do not have to buy the rice and wait for it to come out of the silo and wait for it to sit there and to have a better performance.

The functional point of view, we were surprised because it has a great performance. It absorbs more water, so the grains are larger and look nicer, wider grains. The rice is very loose. For the local characteristic of the company, it ends up having a performance that is very good, specifically in the high areas. What they mentioned that is a characteristic of the industry is that the rice in the higher zones, they are submitted to a low atmospheric pressure. It is more soaked. That is a very local characteristic. They study bringing that to Brazil and other places. We have that discussion, and maybe the problem that we have to work with it in the local market is that this aged rice, when you buy that in a bag, it is kind of yellowish.

In the Ecuadorian market, they worked with marketing, and they learned that even if the rice is yellow in the package, but when you cook it gets larger and it is fluff and it's loose. Here in Brazil, we would have that barrier to overcome because this was a marketing campaign that they had there. That's what I had to talk about technology. I don't know if you want more details.

Luciano Quartiero
CEO, Camil Alimentos

I would like to add, Flavio, I think this technology was developed because of a need of having the rice better cooked in high altitudes, which is a characteristic in Ecuador that's very specific.

Operator

To ask a question, please press star one. Excuse me. If there are no further questions, I would like to turn the floor back to the company's management for their final remarks.

Luciano Quartiero
CEO, Camil Alimentos

Thank you all very much for your participation. I would like to end this call stressing something that Flavio mentioned during the Q&A. The company in the last few years and before and after the IPO has worked on the inorganic growth, this in the last 20 years. The company had almost one acquisition a year, and after the IPO, that became a slower pace. As Flavio mentioned, considering the current scenario, the company is very optimistic about this new acquisition.

These past few years, and specifically in the past few months, we prepared ourselves financially and also operationally. This is an area that in the past few years didn't bring us that many results, but we have a great expectation for the upcoming months. Thank you all very much and see you next time.

Operator

Camil's audio conference has ended. Thank you very much for your participation, and have a nice day.