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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

May 11, 2023

Operator

We are many in many points of Brazil and around the world with passion for new paths. We inspire and mobilize dreams in people, innovating and creating solutions for challenges every single day. We are in search for shared prosperity which respects our relationship with the planet and people, where there is always space for more new ideas, new products, new services, creating a sustainable future with a new way of thinking and getting mobility. We have people who know that in our world to be on the move is fundamental. Mobility. This is how we continue with appetite and courage to live the future. We're always evolving to connect people and riches, generating prosperity. Randon Companies now are Randoncorp. Good morning to all. Welcome to our conference call for earnings of Randoncorp for Q1, 2023. Yes, now we are Randoncorp.

If you were not present, for example, on April 28, our brand went through a change. Today, we will hear more about this. The highlights of Randoncorp is our CEO, Sergio Carvalho. We have with us also CFO and DRI, Paulo Prignolato, and the Director of Finance and Investor Relations, Esteban Angeletti. They will share with us economic highlights by business. Before passing the floor to Sergio, we have on the screen important announcements. The information given here is not a guarantee of performance. They involve risks and uncertainties. They refer to future events and depend on circumstances that may or may not occur. At the end of the presentations, we will have our Q&A session, you can also participate at any time clicking on the button Q&A at the bottom of the screen, or sending your question by Zap.

You can participate by audio or in writing. If it's by audio, please send your name and company on the platform. In writing, please write your name, company, and question through using WhatsApp or the platform. If we don't have time to answer all the questions, we will get in touch with you after the event. I remind you that this event has simultaneous translation in progress for English and sign language. To hear English, please click on the button Interpretation at the bottom of the screen. To hear only the translator, please click on Hear Original Audio. It is being recorded. The recording will be in our website right after the end. We will begin now the presentations, beginning with our CEO, Sérgio L. Carvalho.

Sérgio L. Carvalho
Senior Executive Advisor and Independent Consultant, Randoncorp

Good morning to all who are with us in this conference call for earnings.

It is with great pride and satisfaction that we're here today presenting our earnings with our new corporate brand, Randoncorp. This is a very important moment for us as a company. It is a landmark in our history, not only for everything we lived until here, but what we want to build in the future. Those who are with us more time know that we are growing in an accelerated way and also accelerated transformation. Today, we're a company with focus on mobility that is expanding internationally and the most important, growing in a sustainable way. Our new name brings these characteristics. A modern company, dynamic company, and always on the move. For those who want to know more details about this change, we have complete material which was aired on April 28, and you can see this in our Investor Relations site.

On this same day, we also had the ESG Ambition event and our sustainability report. Please check all our initiatives, projects that reinforce the sustainability. Talking about Q1 2023, we're very happy with our results. We began the year with many political-economic uncertainties, apart from the impacts of the change from Euro 5 to Euro 6 in commercial vehicles. This resulted in the production of trucks and buses to drop in the beginning of the year. It is this scenario that our strategy of diversification helps with the difference. The robust numbers we reach in the first three months of the year reinforce that we're on the right track.

Even with the reduction in volumes of auto parts, our results maintain in a consistent way with the excellent performance in aftermarket with Fras-le Mobility and the recovery of margins in OEMs, especially Hercules in the US. Our vertical for financial services and digital services also helped with consistent numbers, and disruptive innovation of advanced technology has had an impact on other verticals in a more and more relevant way. Since how are we doing all of this? I have said that there are many points that in Randoncorp that we would need a lot of time to talk about all of them. I'd like to highlight the most recent that are a summary of what we're doing in our companies.

In Q1 2023, we concluded the acquisition of AML Juratek, a company with focus on aftermarket in the U.S., which opens important doors for us in Europe. We finalized the purchase and control of DBServer, which will bring capacity and creation and development of softwares, which is fundamental for any company today. Talking about innovation, we inaugurated the Suspensys plant, focusing on e-Sys, electric traction, and also batteries that are used in this solution. This is new for us, the first in Latin America, which places us in a leadership role in technology for this type of product in the country. With an investment of BRL 60 million to be made in the next five years, our expectation is to get within five years to a capacity of at least 1,000 units of e-Sys systems per year.

Another highlight is Compo, Compos, a new brand of composite materials from Fras-le Mobility. Right now, they are making items for semi-trailers and trucks, but other projects are in progress, and the opportunities and perspectives of new products with this concept are enormous. This is how we're building the future, focusing on disruptive development and innovation. To do this, we have a very good team that is rethinking the traditional models. We made internal changes to improve even more our executive structure and to have more focus on the management of business. As of first of May, the directors of each vertical that are part of the executive committee now will be COOs, Chief Operating Officers, and Director Superintendent Cesar Ferreira will be responsible for advanced technology, is now part of the team.

All the verticals are represented with a member enriching the exchange of experience and ideas. Before closing my participation, I'd like to reinforce once again our guidance for 2023 with the indicators are on the screen and show that even a year that is even more challenging than 2022, we trust that we can grow our revenue, delivering good margins and maintaining our discipline in investments. I pass the floor to Paulo, who will begin his presentation.

Paulo Prignolato
EVP and CFO, Randoncorp

Thank you, Sérgio. Good morning to all who are with us in this conference call. With our new brand, Randoncorp. In Q1, we had very positive numbers, even better than expected initially. Net consolidated revenue reached BRL 2.7 billion, an increase of 7% in relation to the same period, 2022. Here I'd like to reinforce the importance of recent acquisitions for this growth.

With the revenue of Hercules, Juratek, and DB, BRL 128 million were added to the consolidated only during this, during this quarter. These new businesses, together with diversification in all the verticals, had a fundamental role in the growth of consolidated sales, and with road implements compensating the drop in auto parts. Another highlight is the performance of the export market. These values were obtained by exports and also controlled companies abroad. The progress in this indicator in relation to Q1 2022 is due to the strong expansion of business in the U.S. through Hercules or exports to that region, both semi-trailers and auto parts. This is no doubt one of the strategies where we have invested the most in Randoncorp, the internationalization to mature markets.

Talking about gross cash generation, we reached BRL 442 million in consolidated EBITDA with 16.6% of consolidated EBITDA margin above the amounts that we published in our guidance between 13%-16%. Many factors contributed for these margins. For example, better prices, better pricing, better margins in companies acquired, and gains in operational efficiency. Another relevant point was the cost of steel, which dropped in relation to the last quarters. Our profitability continues consistent with a net margin of 4.6%, but now hurt by financial expenses and high interest rates. I like to remind you that even with this excellent level of margins, the market scenario has many uncertainties, and we should continue working intensely for Randoncorp to continue strong. Talking about another indicator in our guidance, CapEx, BRL 61 million in the quarter.

Half of this value was invested by the vertical movement, controlling the acquisition of machines and equipment to expand the capacity. Non-organic investments and integralization of capital were also done in the period, with a highlight to the acquisition of Juratek, BRL 101 million, and also Addiante BRL 40 million. With these payments, amongst others made in the period, and with the increase for working capital, the net without Randon Bank reached BRL 2.5 billion at the end of March 2023, and a leverage of 1.67 times. Our investor base went from 41,000 shareholders at the end of 2022 to more than 45,000 shareholders in Q1 2023 due to the higher number of individuals. Those who most increased their position were foreign investors and institutional investors.

Operator

Now I'd like to pass the floor to Estevão to talk about the business verticals.

Esteban Mario Angeletti
Director of Investor Relations and Corporate Finance, Randoncorp

Thank you, Paulo. Good morning. It's good to have you with us in one more conference call of the company. 2023 began in a very intense way. We already had many events and important announcements such as guidance, ESG ambition, and the change for the new brand Randoncorp. I'd like to thank you for following us in all these moments. As Sergio and Paulo already shared with you, Q1 had consistent numbers, and now I will talk about each business. Before that, let's see the market scenario. As already expected, the production of trunks had a strong drop in comparison with Q1 22 and Q4 22.

OEMs anticipated production of vehicles Euro 5 in Q4 to guarantee the inventory of these products to be sold to dealerships until the end of March this year. Different from production, the sales of trucks continued on a normal level. More than 94% of the vehicles registered had Euro 5. As you were able to see on the media in the last few weeks, OEMs have announced production stops to avoid higher inventory. The value of the new product, together with the current interest rates and difficulty to access credit, are the main factors that affect demand in this moment. This scenario was mapped in our projections, we continue to be cautious, especially in auto parts. On the other hand, we have semi-trailers which represented stability in volumes and especially for the continuity of agro business being strong demand in the export market.

Aftermarket has benefited with the complex system of production of vehicles which increases maintenance and the sale of trucks and automobiles in the secondary market. Our presence with the alternatives and resilience we have helped us. I'd like to begin the highlights talking about OEMs. We had an important recovery in margins in relation to the previous quarter. Among the factors that contributed for this recovery are the prices of sale of semi-trailers remained at adequate levels, the reduction in the cost of steel, which increased our margins. Also, the results of Hercules with more than 1,000 implements and a revenue of BRL 98 million in double-digit margins. The export of 600 containers to the US compensated the drop in sales in Latin America, especially to Chile, which is having a political crisis with a strong impact on demand.

We continue leaders with 27% participation in Brazil and 64% in exports. Even with the drop in the production of trucks, the dynamics of sale and sale of semi-trailers continued positive. Our portfolio goes until the Q3 and agribusiness is the main generator of demand. Now talking about auto parts which suffered a great impact, we can see that even in this scenario, this vertical showed its resilience with good margins. The units are working to mitigate the impacts of drop in demand, expanding sales to export markets and aftermarket. Another measure was the internalization of production of some items by Castertech using better their capacity and adding margin to the company.

Other points I'd like to highlight are growth of sales of brake systems to the US by Master, the increase in the portfolio as the case of Jost with Buslink, the expansion of sales to the agricultural sector by Castertech representing 13% of the revenues of this unit and Suspensys which has invested in electromobility once again adding new sources of revenue to this vertical as already mentioned by Sérgio. Going on to movement control, Fras-le Mobility and its controlled companies. We had historical margins with a new record in revenue. The expansion and internationalization has allowed this vertical to deliver results that are more and more robust and with great potential to be explored. The main market which is aftermarket is in an excellent time maintaining the prices.

The reorganization of the distribution centers in Garín, in Argentina and Extrema Brazil have already brought important synergies. Apart from this, we are now back with production in China after the lockdown, with a benefit in logistics costs apart. Composite materials are in a new phase now called Compos, with investments in automation and capacity expansion, adding more revenue and sustainability to this controlled company. With the conclusion of the purchase of Juratek, this vertical will expand its presence in the European market in the next quarter. It has good perspectives for the next few months. Now going to financial and digital services. We have another vertical with important progress. The great highlights are Randon Pool sales, which is doing very well with a growth of 66% in pool sales in comparison with Q1 2022.

This increase is due to the high interest rate, which makes this option cheaper and more attractive, and agribusiness, which continues to help our sales. Randon Bank is expanding its work, becoming more and more important in the ecosystem of Randoncorp. The revenue from DB represented BRL 17 million, adding a new business in the vertical. Addiante, which will gain representation. The company has contracts for the rental of more than 200 assets, and others are being negotiated. The market is receiving very well this business model. Talking about advanced technology, we had the union of Auttom with RTS Industry, reinforcing the work and synergies. With this, we will have one name, Auttom. NIONE continues with its projects, currently 65 in progress, with 35 that are advanced in terms of maturity.

Apart from this, they began the building of its first product, which is a nanoparticle solution used in paints. CTR had a drop in revenue, especially due to the seasonality of the period and less activity of the OEMs in Q1. I always like to remember that this vertical is fundamental for technological progress of the company, and its relevance will be evident not only for its results, but also for the contribution in other verticals. I pass the floor to David to begin our Q&A session.

Operator

Good morning to all. Once again, thank you for being with us in our conference call for earnings in Q1, 2023 and now as Randoncorp.

I'd like to thank Sérgio and Paulo for the presentations. Now we will have the Q&A session, reminding you that you can ask questions by audio, and we announce you to ask the question in writing your name, company and the question. We will read it and answer it via WhatsApp. Now we will begin and now Victor Mizusaki, Bradesco BBI. Well, Fernanda Urbano, XP. Fernanda, please ask your question.

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Good morning. Good morning, David, Sérgio. Congratulations for the results. Two questions. I'd like to understand about the impact in the transition to Euro 6 engines. Do you believe we will have an improvement in Q2? The second point on the export of implements. You have improved in the U.S. Could you give us more details about exports to other markets?

Paulo Prignolato
EVP and CFO, Randoncorp

Thank you, Fernanda. Two relevant topics for us. We highlighted some of these points, but it's good to explore more. Sérgio, you are the best person to give us details about the transition to Euro 6 and effects in the market in Q2 and onwards and international market exports to the U.S. Can you all hear me?

Sérgio L. Carvalho
Senior Executive Advisor and Independent Consultant, Randoncorp

Yes. Well, thank you for the question. Yes, we have felt the impact of Euro 6 in Q1, but our expectation is that we will continue to feel the impact in the next quarter. The market needs a better alignment with price increases for. There was an increase in price for Euro 6 trucks. There is a movement in the direction of normalization. We're also seeing a scarcity of credit, which is together with this concern with Euro 6.

OEMs are increasing Euro 6 trucks. We believe that this, in the second quarter, we will feel the same impacts in this segment of the market. As we already said previously, a great advantage for us is that we can navigate in difficult times as this one, when we have a great reduction in the production of trucks. Even with this situation, we are growing. We are diversified. Our vertical for implements, road implements, our exports continue. In South America, we see drops in production in Argentina, Chile, and other markets. This is being compensated or even more than compensated by our exports to the U.S. market and our production in Hercules, which is doing very well.

We're very happy with Hercules, with good results, and they are more than compensating the other drops that we have seen.

Paulo Prignolato
EVP and CFO, Randoncorp

Thank you, Sérgio. I'd like to add a point which is very relevant for me. You mentioned about the impact of the production of trucks when we compare with Q4. The production of trucks dropped 46% in Q4 last year, and our vertical for auto parts had a drop in revenue, much lower than this. A drop of 20% versus Q4 last year. That had been a strong quarter for auto parts. Another highlight, the margin in auto parts is 16%, very relevant. This should be said, especially to show that our investments in a business model that is more diversified is bringing us good results in a difficult year like this. Fernando, I hope we answered your question.

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Yes, you did. Thank you.

Operator

Let's go on to the next, now with Victor Mizusaki, Bradesco BBI. Okay, Victor, please.

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Good morning. Thank you. Congratulations for the results. I have two questions. One concerning implements. When we look at average price, Brazil and the US, we see a difference even comparing average price in Brazil, Q4. We see an improvement in margins too. First question, can you comment what we can expect in terms of the difference in profitability in Brazil versus the US? Is it because of the product? How is competition in Brazil? We had an increase of 6%, but this sacrificed market share. Do you see an improvement in the next quarters? The second question, looking at auto parts aftermarket 10%, 11%, which is different from Fras-le.

Do you see opportunities to change the mix in auto parts? Thank you.

I will address your first question, the issue of average price and the expectations for margin and profitability. Then Sérgio, concerning aftermarket auto parts, you can comment. Victor, concerning average price, there are some components that are important. First, talking about competition. Yes, we saw the market did not grow. The market was bad, but competitors are also more rational. The market has news about expansion, but sometimes it's important to read the news about drops in capacity. This happened in the last year. We saw this in Q1. And this capacity, industry capacity with volumes that don't grow, we were expecting a drop in volumes. Only agribusiness is strong. This helped the market. The offer to be more rational, more conscious.

Companies are being more rational, more conscious, and not aggressive as in the past. Specifically on Randon, it's important to remember that we have more and more products with value-added products. Thus, the tickets rose at Randon, not only price increases, but also more value for our client with a higher ticket. Now concerning export products, initially, we have a greater concentration to the US of chassis and platforms in containers. Different from Brazil, this product is more simple, the average ticket is lower. That's why we have this difference between the export market and the domestic market. During the year, in relation to profitability of implements, we have to follow. In this first quarter, we did what we had said to the market to balance market share with profit. This is what we will do during the year.

As Paulo mentioned in his presentation, the price of steel is dropping. This helps us to defend margin. We have to also work on price to sustain these margins during the year. Sergio, if you want to talk about auto parts and aftermarket.

Sérgio L. Carvalho
Senior Executive Advisor and Independent Consultant, Randoncorp

Thank you, Victor. Just to supplement the answer given by Esteban. Our margins in the U.S. are significantly higher than our average margins in Brazil. We're very happy with our investment. Yes, one of the first actions in terms of how to compensate or attenuate the drop in revenue in the beginning of the year due to lower production and sales of Euro 6, we made efforts to grow in aftermarket with auto parts.

Four different companies that make up our auto parts. The majority were able to increase their revenue and work more with auto parts and aftermarket to attenuate this drop in volume and also exports. We have important projects we're working on.

Operator

Thank you, Sergio. Thank you, Victor. Well, now the next question by audio, Lucas Marchiori, BTG Pactual. Thank you, Lucas.

Lucas Marchiori
Equity Research Analyst, BTG Pactual

Okay, thank you. I have two topics. Good morning. First, the transition from Euro 5 to Euro 6 in road implements. Maybe we saw the end of Euro 5 production in Q1. Maybe we will have lower volumes in Euro 6. Is this what you believe will happen? Minimum in volume and then recovery. The second topic concerning margins. I know that it's early to think about numbers for the year, but Q1 was higher than the guidance. What are you expecting in the, in the next quarters? Do you believe you will have the numbers of the guidance? I'd like to hear you about these topics.

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Okay, Lucas. Thank you. Sérgio, you can comment the transition to Euro 6. In Q1, the sales of trucks were not affected. The production was affected. 94% of the sales were Euro 5. Very little of sales in Euro 6. Only in this quarter, we will have more sales of Euro 6. Paulo, if you wish to comment on margins for the second half of the year and how this compares with our guidance.

Sérgio L. Carvalho
Senior Executive Advisor and Independent Consultant, Randoncorp

Lucas, good morning. Thank you for the question. Esteban talked about this at the end of last year. Production was very high, very large with Euro 5. All these sales happened in Q1 in the dealers, and they can continue selling what they have of Euro 5 even after March 31st. This additional production of Euro 5 at the end of last year, really many companies had vacation, stopped. The reality of Q2 is different. Q1 was expected. Q2, we have the pressure due to price of the new products and how this impacts transportation company and whether it makes sense or whether they will wait for prices to go down. This is already happening in Fenatran. A product that was sold at BRL 700,000, was presented at BRL 1.2 million. Today we're hearing about BRL 950,000.

We see a drop in prices, and the manufacturers that were not so aggressive in price, those who were able to handle this, and two manufacturers did this. They have a good portfolio, they have good sales, those who are less aggressive in price. This is what we're seeing. Lower prices going down, and owners are waiting for better prices. There's also a lack of financing right now. We know that this is. Many commercial banks are avoiding this sector, and there is less financing, and this is having an effect. Different realities. Q1, only a compensation that was expected because of overproduction at the end of last year. In Q2, lower prices and financing, we hope that we will have more, a more normal situation.

Operator

Thank you, Sérgio. Yes, there is a restriction on credit, this has a positive impact on our services. Pool sales, Randon Consórcios are doing well. Now, Paulo, second question of Lucas, if you wish to comment about the behavior of margins in relation to our guidance. Can you hear me well?

Paulo Prignolato
EVP and CFO, Randoncorp

Yes. Good morning to all. Lucas, thank you very much for your question. In reality, it's important to highlight some factors related to some uncertainties that make us maintain the guidance on this level. It's important, Sergio Esteban mentioned a lot the dynamics in relation to Euro 6. Apart from this, we see the exchange rate being very volatile. Interest rates, there's an expectation of a drop in interest rates in Brazil and in other markets during the second semester. Steel is an important component.

We announced to the market that we had a drop or deflation in the cost of raw materials during the first and second quarters. In Q3, we see this drop continuing, but Q4, we don't have a conclusion about the price of raw materials. Last of all, the behavior of the competition in the many sectors and markets where we are present. Right now, Lucas, although we have overcome the EBITDA margin and the guidance in Q1, we are maintaining the range of margins. If during the next months we feel that there is space for a change, we will inform the market about this.

Operator

Okay. Thank you. The next question, Andressa Varotto, UBS BB.

Andressa Varotto
Sell-side Equity Research Analyst, UBS BB Investment Bank

Good morning. Thank you. Two quick questions. The price of steel and raw materials, how do you see the relationship between lower prices and price increases. Also market share. Road implement 6%, which is a little lower than your market share. Do you have any strategy to go back to a market share of 30% or are you comfortable with these levels?

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Thank you, Andressa, for the questions. I will join this with a question from Fernando Leitão. He wants us to comment on the market share of Randon. This question, Sérgio, you're the best person to answer this. The first question, Paulo, cost of raw materials, especially steel. You have the information.

Paulo Prignolato
EVP and CFO, Randoncorp

Andressa, thank you for your question. As I had answered before, we have many verticals, and in some of these verticals, the price increase is being done, especially with OEMs where we have contracts and others to follow the competition. We have a relevant purchase of steel.

We have an important buying power, this brings us an important competitive edge in relation to other competitors. For the first semester, we had an important drop of price in steel. Q3, we're negotiating in Q1 these robust margins, because the market dynamics allowed us to have an important margin in some of the verticals. We did not increase all the prices. That's why we're maintaining our guidance with an EBITDA margin on these levels. If anything changes during the next few months, we will inform the market of the changes.

Sérgio L. Carvalho
Senior Executive Advisor and Independent Consultant, Randoncorp

Thank you, Paulo. Andressa, talking about market share, sharing with you our way of thinking. Our objective is to work in a responsible way, in a professional way. We want to do everything that is possible to maximize the return for our shareholders.

This is our main objective. What I mean is that, and this happened again, we have bids for products with low value for low value-added products with prices are lower, where prices are lower than where we want to focus. We don't give priority to market share going after products with compromised margins in order to continue with our leadership in value. There are products, the products that we sign these bids in Q1 where the value is too low, our average ticket is much higher than these products. We maintained many%. We are many percentage points ahead of number two, the second company. Our vision is to bring value to our shareholders, maintaining our leadership in products. Some products we sell for 100,000, others for 300,000.

We prefer to work with products that cost BRL 300,000. Like in the case of trucks, you have small trucks in the city that sell for an X price and heavy trucks on the roads with prices that are 4 or 5 times higher. When you look at the market share of small trucks and large trucks, this is not a good comparison. We work with products with more that are more value-added. And if we looked at market share based on value, it's much higher because we have different products with higher prices. Having said this, our expectation is to see an improvement in our market share. In the beginning of the year, we have stops, and this impacts the market share. After the beginning of the year, things are recovered. I hope I answered your question.

Operator

Not only yours, but also the question of the other colleague, Fernando Leitão. Fernando, I hope I answered your question. Thank you. Thank you, Andressa. The next question, Gabriel Tinoco from Santander. Gabriel, you have the floor.

Gabriel Tinoco
Sell-side Equity Research Analyst, Santander

Good morning. Good morning, Esteban, Sergio, Paulo. Congratulations for the results. With this strong demand, especially in the US market, do you see opportunities for more expansion in the USA, expanding Hercules or M&As, more acquisitions? Give us an idea of the margins there. Gabriel, thank you. Sergio. You can comment on the US market, Hercules and new opportunities.

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Okay, Gabriel, thank you. Certainly, our intention, we have already said this. Today, we have between exports and sale outside Brazil, 20% of our revenue, and our objective is to go to 30%. This will happen through expansion, whether they are organic or inorganic in general.

In terms of OEMs, yes, we continue to export from Brazil. We're working to expand the capacity of Hercules, and also we're beginning in the next few years to think of other product lines so we can participate in other segments of the U.S. market. We are looking at this auto parts in the U.S., the auto parts where we can participate. We have auto parts which are restricted to South America, we will not violate our agreements. Those in the U.S., we are prospecting businesses and a lot of interesting discussions in progress, and also opportunities for M&A. We're looking at everything. You know that we're always analyzing these opportunities, looking at the best, the synergies, as we always say. This is our plan, our intention.

In terms of how we will get to 30% revenue, we purchased Juratek in the U.K., we're working on other projects too. Sergio, the issue of Hercules and its margins, you said they have healthy margins. In the U.S., the market is different from Brazil. The demand continues strong in the U.S. Those who have capacity like Hercules, they are being able to charge more, this sustains margins, a favorable scenario for us. Gabriel, your second question.

Gabriel Tinoco
Sell-side Equity Research Analyst, Santander

Thank you, Esteban, Sergio. Second question, a follow-up for auto parts. You internalized production at Castertech, will you follow the same strategy in this next quarter? What do you expect until the end of the year?

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Gabriel, truly, we have been working in the last five years in three fronts. More exposure to aftermarket. Sergio mentioned this. Greater flexibility in production with the acquisitions of Castertech, increasing our capacity and adding quality revenue, allowing us to have more flexibility with new products and allow us to go to new markets like agriculture. Castertech, with the assets they have, they can participate in the agricultural market. The third point, Sérgio just said, the opportunity for internationalization of auto parts. Suspensys is in Castertech are ours. We don't have geographic restrictions, and we want to continue to explore geographic diversification. Flexibility, diversification for aftermarket and geographic diversification to compensate the domestic market that has dropped this year. If you allow me an additional point in auto parts, which has to do with Castertech. Today, we buy 35,000 tons a year.

We sell much more than what we can produce. With a drop in production, we bring part of these purchases to our plants to mitigate this. We have this ability, we're doing this. We are insourcing.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question, Lucas Marquiori, Itaú BBA.

Lucas Marchiori
Equity Research Analyst, BTG Pactual

Good morning. Two issues that were already discussed. The first, the price of trucks from Euro 5 to Euro 6. You made clear, Sérgio, that now prices are improving and now OEMs are being forced to drop prices. Did you see sales in 900,000 by 900,000 or 1 million? Also the production volumes in April were lower than March. Are prices dropping? Please give us more details.

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Thank you for the question. There are two factors. Sérgio talked about this. There are one or two manufacturers that were not too aggressive. They gained market share. There is a second group of OEMs.

There was an aggressive increase in price. They're dropping prices. Sérgio, if you want to answer. I believe you said what I was going to say. Luis, thank you. That's it. 2 large truck manufacturers had a different price policy. They're gaining market share, their portfolio is full. The others tested the market, now they're adjusting their prices downward. We have this period, this is what is happening. Luis, also, I'd like to remind you, we mentioned a lot about the real demand, different from the transition from Euro 3 to Euro 4, where there was an artificial demand. This year we see a real demand. What I mean is that trucks will have to be sold. We're close to seeing a normalization of this. Okay.

Since the other manufacturers are dropping their prices, May and June should be better. Yes. We see April as a month when adjustments were made. Lucas Marquiori, there's another factor, the scarcity of financing. This has to be solved.

Lucas Marchiori
Equity Research Analyst, BTG Pactual

Okay. Second question, inventories. You made clear that you noticed a significant drop in the price of steel. How is this reflected in your inventory on March 31st? Is the price, this drop in steel... What happened after March?

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Paulo Prignolato, if you can answer this.

Paulo Prignolato
EVP and CFO, Randoncorp

Lucas Marquiori, thank you. The price of steel, we use an average. As we buy cheaper steel, we use an average price at a lower price in relation to December. This changes according to verticals. Some verticals work with a month and a half, in others a longer period.

I would say that in general, this first quarter, we have the steel that we bought for a lower price. It doesn't mean that in Q2 we will have even lower prices.

Lucas Marchiori
Equity Research Analyst, BTG Pactual

Thank you. My last question related to inventory. We saw strong cash consumption in Q1. We hope this will change. Can you comment on working capital, when you expect to have more working capital?

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Perfect. Thank you. Working capital, we discuss a lot. Paulo, I believe you can comment on this.

Paulo Prignolato
EVP and CFO, Randoncorp

Of course, Luis. This is a topic that we treat with a lot of discipline. Yes, we have considered important factors, seasonality in our business. We had some stops during the last quarter of 2022. This happens this way, so there is a drop, especially in inventory and even in accounts payable to suppliers.

What happened? We saw a drop. Naturally, with the recovery of operations in Q1, an increase in inventory. What we see is that during Q2, we have an increase in inventory, but a normalization of your accounts payable to suppliers. Consequently, we hope a certain drop in working capital during Q2 and Q3, but naturally, Q4 is a quarter because things change. There are stops in some clients going back to lower levels. In other words, normally Q1 suffers a lot in terms of working capital. Stabilization in second quarter, third quarter, and a drop in Q4.

Operator

Thank you, Sérgio, Paulo, Esteban. Thank you, Luis. Next question, Marcelo Mota, JP Morgan. Mota, you can begin your question.

Marcelo Motta
Research Analyst, JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Thank you, David. A follow-up, more details about investing BRL 60 million. Can we expect more revenue based on the plant you have, or do you intend to build another plant to exceed 1,000 units? Thank you.

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Okay, I will pass this question to Sergio. I can say that we continue very optimistic with this product, ESIS. When we look at road transport in Brazil, we have a lot of road transportation, and with this impact, ESIS, electric traction, we can decrease emissions. This helps the environment. On operation and sales, Sergio has more details.

Sérgio L. Carvalho
Senior Executive Advisor and Independent Consultant, Randoncorp

Thank you, Marcelo. Marcelo, we see this type of product, ESIS, electric traction, with three phases of adoption. First, the early adopters, the companies that are more focused on ESG. We are working with these companies. They are not concerned with financial issues. They are concerned with carbon footprint and want to invest.

We should sell 50 units this year. This week, we made more sales, but it's a process. Some companies are testing, they already bought. We're waiting for their results, it becomes more popular with an exponential curve. You begin small and then volumes grow. The second phase is the business case. We're near this. When we have larger volumes in some components, especially batteries, the cost of this architecture, like in automobiles and trucks, batteries are the most expensive item. We will have a higher volume. The third phase, mass production of this technology. These are the 3 phases. Certainly phase 1, phase 2 will develop in the next 4 or 5 years. Mass adoption will take a little longer.

Having said this, the ESIS has an axle, electric traction, inverter, battery, and software, and we won't be selling all of this as a package. When it's semi-trailer, yes, a complete solution. There has been demand for batteries. There is the possibility in some components to have more than 1,000 units per year. When we reach phase 2, as I said, the potential is many times higher than for this business. That's why Esteban said we're positive, but like all technologies that are new, it takes time.

Operator

Our next question comes from Igor Araujo, Genial Investimentos. Igor, thank you.

Ygor Araújo
Equity Research Analyst, Genial Investimentos

Congratulations for the results. My first question, you talked a lot about strategy, market share, mix price. This was answered. A topic, in the release you said that you have some rental contracts, 200 assets in the software company. I'd like to understand, what was the yield in these contracts? What kind of assets are you renting in the software company?

Victor Mizusaki
Head of LatAm Transportation and Capital Goods, Bradesco BBI

Me. This we know. If you can give us these numbers, it'll help us. Okay, Igor, thank you for the question. Fernando Leitão's question, market share and the other on Addiante company and the rental contracts. Addiante, I'd like to ask Paulo to comment about this operation. It's a new operation, it's a start-up, but there is a lot of interest, especially in the scenario with high interest rates. This helped us to have the first contract, which is not Randon or Gerdau.

Paulo Prignolato
EVP and CFO, Randoncorp

Igor, thank you for your question. In reality, we cannot give you more details about the size of the ticket and the margin. As you all know, the operation is in a ramp-up phase.

We believe that it's an operation with a lot of potential. A business, in comparison with other mature markets, has a lot to grow. What was said, the objective is to show that we're better than we forecasted in the business case. We're forming the team. We have the CEO, Fabio, that began at the end of last year. We're putting together the team that will support Fabio. As soon as we have this information and our partner Gerdau, we will structure how Randon and Gerdau will be able to share with the market more information and details about this company called Addiante. Please wait a little more, and we will define the best format to give you more details.

Operator

Thank you. Yes. There are many things to be done. Yes, we can wait. Thank you. Thank you, Igor. Our last question, Vanderson Santos, RW. Three questions. Two of them are long-term growth and challenges of the company. This we already mentioned. Please call us if you need more details. One of the questions is to talk about measures being taken to increase efficiency and lower costs. Sérgio, operational efficiency and investments in this area.

Sérgio L. Carvalho
Senior Executive Advisor and Independent Consultant, Randoncorp

Thank you. Vanderson, we don't have a silver bullet, a single answer in terms of what we have done to improve our efficiency. It's a set of actions where we work consistently. First of all, we knew about Euro 6, we knew we would have these stops in production, we began the year with actions, controlling expenses, costs, travel, all types of expense. We began with lower expenses this year, delivering 16.6% EBITDA in Q1, this makes us very happy.

We're working to improve synergies among the units. We work looking for all types of improvements in our costs, and not only in international freight, but also lower costs for distribution. We consolidated all the freight in Minas Gerais, with the exception of the deliveries in the south of Brazil. Many synergies, automation, creating internal solutions to automate improving productivity and many others. New raw materials, changing the specs. A set of actions. There is no single solution that is a magic bullet. Changes in specs, alternatives that bring us benefits. All these actions are contributing for this improvement in cost.

Paulo Prignolato
EVP and CFO, Randoncorp

Just to supplement Sérgio, the main is the mindset. We see this in the company. There is a guidance to improve efficiency in all the areas, in Investor Relations, in production, in engineering. Well, we thank Vanderson for the questions, reminding you that you can get in touch for any further clarification.

Operator

Now, we would like to conclude the Q&A session, and Sérgio will make the final comments.

Sérgio L. Carvalho
Senior Executive Advisor and Independent Consultant, Randoncorp

Thank you, David. Once again, thank you for participating, for the support, the questions. If you need any further clarification, if you remember something, please call us. Call our IR team. It'll be a pleasure to clarify and continue sharing Randoncorp with you. Thank you, and we will meet again in our next event. Thank you. Thank you, Sérgio Paulo. Thank you. Thank you to the IR team.

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