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Earnings Call: Q1 2025

Apr 29, 2025

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Carlsberg Q1 2025 Trading Statement Conference call. I am Healy, the conference call operator. I would like to remind you that all the participants will be in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a Q&A session. You can register for questions at any time by pressing star and one on your telephone. For operator assistance, please press star and zero. The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, it's my pleasure to hand over to Jacob Aarup-Andersen, CEO. Please go ahead.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Thank you so much, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Carlsberg's Q1 2025 conference call. My name is Jacob Aarup-Andersen, and I have with me our CFO, Ulrica Fearn, and Vice President Investor Relations, Peter Kondrup. Now, let me begin by summarizing some of the key headlines for the quarter. First of all, we delivered significant volume and revenue growth due to the Britvic acquisition. Key markets like China, India, and the U.K. delivered a solid start to the year, while total organic development was soft, impacted by the continued soft consumer sentiment, the loss of San Miguel in the U.K., and the late Easter. We saw good growth for our key strategic growth drivers, including premium beer and alcohol-free brews. I also have to say we're very pleased with the Britvic business, and the integration is progressing as planned.

Finally, as you will have seen, we, of course, maintain the earnings guidance for the year. I'm going to provide some of the key group headlines for the quarter and some color on Britvic, and then Ulrica is going to take you through the regions and for the outlook. With that, let's turn to slide number three. The total volumes grew by 14.5%. That's, of course, significantly impacted by acquisitions, which amounted to +1 6.8%. Organic volume development was - 2.3%. If we exclude the lost San Miguel volumes, then the organic volume development was - 1.1%. Revenue per hectoliter was positive thanks to price increases and a positive brand mix, which were partly offset by country and channel mix. Reported revenue grew by 17.4% to DKK 20.1 billion, with acquisitions amounting to 18.4%.

The organic development was - 1.5%, while if we exclude San Miguel, organic revenue was flat year on year. There was a small positive impact from currencies of 0.5%. Please turn to slide four and an update on our growth categories and international brands. For the impact of San Miguel in the U.K., our premium beer portfolio grew by 4%. That was supported by mid-single-digit growth in all three regions. We were very pleased to see the very strong growth for our premium brands in the U.K., with particularly very impressive growth for Poretti. Other markets to call out are Poland with mid-teens growth, China, where mid-single-digit growth was driven by both our local and international premium brands, and India, where our premium volume growth was close to 20%. Looking at the international beer portfolio, total Carlsberg volumes were up by 1%.

We saw very good growth for the premium Carlsberg volumes in markets such as China, India, Laos, and Ukraine. The mainstream volumes were impacted by the challenging consumer environment in markets such as Malaysia, where volumes were also impacted by the earlier Ramadan compared to 2024. Looking at Tuborg, Tuborg continued to deliver commendable growth. Here, I would like to call out markets such as India, China, Italy, Ukraine, and France. Despite growing in many markets, including Poland, Switzerland, China, Ukraine, and Croatia, total 1664 brand volumes declined by 2%. Volumes were impacted by headwinds in the export and license division, specifically South Korea, where the international premium segment is under pressure. Brooklyn achieved 10% growth. This was in particular thanks to very good performance in the U.K. and in France. Our alcohol-free brews grew strongly by 15%, seeing similar growth levels in Western Europe and Central and Eastern Europe.

We saw particularly strong growth for Tourtel in France, for the broad AFB portfolio in Poland, Kvas in Ukraine, and strong traction in export markets in the Middle East. The solid 6% growth in Beyond Beer was mainly driven by very strong growth for Garage and for Wind Flower Snow Moon in China. Our soft drinks volumes grew in Western Europe and CEEI, and we were pleased to see continued good progress for Pepsi Max in all markets where we have that brand. Growth in Western Europe and CEEI was, however, offset by lower volumes in Laos and Cambodia. Now slide five. A few words on the recent announcement of our exciting new partnership with UEFA. Carlsberg has a long-standing history of successful football partnerships, both internationally and locally in our markets.

The more than 30-year partnership with Liverpool is the most significant of those partnerships, being a partnership that we've been able to successfully leverage across multiple markets, not least the way we activate in Asia. On that note, of course, a massive congratulations to our close partners at Liverpool with winning the Premier League this weekend. Well deserved. Our comprehensive new partnership with UEFA is a great complement to our portfolio of football partnerships, and it reinforces our commitment to this great sport and the millions of fans around the world. Contrary to Carlsberg's previous UEFA sponsorship, which expired in 2016, the new partnership is significantly broader. It includes a number of European tournaments for both men and women, and it gives us exclusivity in the beer and cider category.

Although Carlsberg is the leading brand, we are also able to activate the partnership with our local beer and cider brands, which is very important for us. The men and women European football tournaments that you can see on the slide, including Nations League, the European qualifiers for Euro and World Cup, and obviously the Euro itself, means that the new partnership is what we can call an always-on platform, engaging a large and a diverse audience during the year. Therefore, we expect the partnership to further strengthen our brands, ensuring an attractive return on investment. Before we go into the regional performance, let me comment on Britvic on slide number six. The Britvic deal was completed on the 16th of January, and the new leadership team was appointed immediately after. There has not been any major surprises after having owned the business for three and a half months.

The integration and synergy realization are progressing as planned, and we confirmed the previously announced GBP 100 million of synergies, GBP 83 million of integration costs, and the facing of both benefits and costs. Let me add a bit of color on the integration and on the business performance in Q1. First of all, the volume and revenue contribution from the 16th of January when the deal closed, that amounted to 4.7 million hectoliters and DKK 3 billion, respectively. In the U.K., the integration is progressing rapidly. The consultation process is coming to an end as we speak. The pipeline of synergies related to people, direct and indirect procurement, and discretionary spend has been identified and confirmed. We've seen continued good performance, a high engagement amongst employees, and no business interruption.

Nevertheless, volumes and revenue were slightly down in the U.K., but that's due to tough comps, as it was a very strong Q1 last year with a high level of activations in connection with the Pepsi rebranding and also the earlier Easter compared with Q1 this year. We saw good growth of the Pepsi portfolio driven by Pepsi Max and for own brands such as Tango and Jimmy's, while Robinsons and Lipton declined. Off-trade volumes grew slightly, while on-trade volumes declined. In line with the business case, we're increasing commercial investments in the U.K. with increased marketing support of the Pepsi portfolio and additional resources in the sales organization. The Irish business delivered solid performance in Q1. The integration and restructuring in Ireland are limited, as it's a well-performing business, and we do not have our own beer business there.

We're increasing commercial investments also in Ireland to accelerate the growth of the Pepsi portfolio. In France, we exited an unprofitable private label contract, and therefore volumes declined. The integration and restructuring of the French business are in the early stages. Finally, on Brazil, we're still evaluating the strategic options for the Brazilian business, and we'll come back with a decision later this year. In Q1, energy drinks saw good growth, but total volumes declined due to a weak off-trade, lower concentrate volumes, and exit from certain flavor types. We're integrating the international business into different Carlsberg units depending on customer locations. We exited low-margin businesses and made changes to the distributor model to align it with our business model, and consequently, volumes declined in the international business.

Based on all this, the organic volume development in Q1 for full Britvic business was minus 4.1%, but as you can hear, very much impacted by deliberate decisions from our side in terms of improving the business and right-sizing it for the future. With this, I will hand over to Ulrica, who will take you through the regions and the outlook.

Ulrica Fearn
CFO, Carlsberg Group

Thank you, Jacob, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to slide seven and Western Europe. First, a few initial comments before getting into the details. Firstly, as you know, Q1 is off-season and therefore the smallest quarter in Western Europe, accounting for around 20% of annual volumes. Consequently, one should be cautious predicting any change in trends based on developments in Q1. Secondly, the numbers are heavily impacted by the loss of San Miguel in the U.K. from the 1st of January. On a full-year basis, San Miguel accounted for approximately 4% of regional volumes. Thirdly, the sell-in to Easter was in April this year, while it was in Q1 last year. Reported revenue for Western Europe grew by 31% due to the Britvic acquisition, while the organic development was -2.9% due to the loss of San Miguel.

Excluding San Miguel, volumes grew organically by 0.8%. Organic revenue per hectoliter was flat, and we actually saw growth in most markets supported by price increases and a positive category mix, while channel mix was negative due to soft on-trade channel. However, at a regional level, revenue per hectoliter growth in markets was countered by negative country mix due to strong growth in Poland and last year's inclusion of excise duties in net revenue in the U.K. following the termination of the Kronenbourg 1664 license agreement. In the U.K., our beer business, excluding San Miguel, saw low single-digit volume growth in a challenging market. We gained market share in both the on and the off-trade, driven by Carlsberg Danish Pilsner, 1664, Poretti, and Hobgoblin, as well as new listings in existing on-trade customers and new on-trade custom wins.

In the Nordics, volumes were impacted by the later Easter, but nevertheless, it ended flat compared to Q1 last year. Premium beer, carbonated soft drinks, energy drinks, and water grew, while mainstream core beer declined. In France, our volumes remained impacted by the pricing taken last year and therefore declined low single digits in a flat market. The decline was driven by the lower mainstream Kronenbourg brand, while 1664, Tourtel, and craft brands delivered volume growth, and the positive brand mix led to an improved revenue per hectoliter. We have finalized all customer negotiations, and the updated prices and promos will be in the market from late April. The Swiss beer market remained very soft and volatile and declined by an estimated mid-single digits. We improved our market share slightly, seeing growth for the local premium brand, Valaisanne, and for 1664 Blanc.

The soft drinks market also declined, albeit less than the beer market. We were very satisfied to see good growth for the Pepsi franchise driven by Pepsi Max. The Polish business has had a very strong start for the year, with double-digit volume growth driven by market share gains and easy comps due to soft starts last year. Revenue per hectoliter developed very favorably on the back of a positive category and brand mix. Now let's go to slide eight and Asia, where we reported revenue growth by 1.2%, including a positive FX impact from China and Malaysia. The organic revenue development was -0.4%, as the revenue per hectoliter improvement was 2%, and that was offset by an organic volume decline of 2.1%. The improvement in revenue per hectoliter was the result of a positive category mix and price increases.

In a slightly declining Chinese market, our business delivered a solid start to the year with 2% volume growth on the back of normal inventory levels at the beginning of the year. The volume growth was driven by our big cities and the premium portfolio, which grew more than 5%, with most premium brands delivering growth in the quarter. The Carlsberg brand did particularly well, delivering mid-teens volume growth. Revenue per hectoliter was flat, mainly due to the negative channel mix, as on-trade, especially the nightlife, remains impacted by the soft consumer sentiment. The Vietnamese market stabilized, and our volumes declined double digits due to the sell-in of the Tet New Year celebrations happening in Q4 last year and market decline and share losses in our stronghold in the central part of the country, mainly on the Huda brand, as competition and promotional activities in the mainstream segment intensified.

In Laos, our volumes were impacted by bad weather and a challenging macroeconomic environment, leading to a mid-single digit decline. The decline was more significant for water and soft drinks than for beer. Weather improved, however, in the Pi Mai celebrations in April. In Cambodia, beer volumes grew by high single digits, while energy drinks continue to decline. Let's go to slide nine and CEEI. As in Western Europe, Q1 is the smallest quarter in the European markets in this region, where the quarter accounts for approximately 20% of full-year volumes. Reported volumes grew by 9.9% due to the inclusion of the Britvic business in Brazil and the consolidation of the Gorkha Brewery in Nepal. The organic volume development of -1.7% was mainly due to lower volumes in Kazakhstan and weak consumer sentiment across Southeast Europe and the Baltics.

The growth in revenue per hectoliter was 2% and the result of price increases and a positive category mix. Reported revenue grew strongly at 12.6%, positively impacted by the acquisition impact of 14.4%. The organic revenue growth was flat, while the currency impact was - 1.9%, with Ukraine and Kazakhstan being the most significant contributors. The Indian beer market grew by estimated mid-single digits. Thanks to strong execution, effective trade marketing, and the quality and look and feel of the Carlsberg and Tuborg brand, our business delivered double-digit volume growth. Consequently, our market share strengthened, reaching almost 23%, and we expanded the reach of 1664 Blanc. In Ukraine, the war continued, causing electricity shortages and impacting the on-trade in particular. In addition, the mobilization of military personnel intensified and the macroeconomy continued to decline. We strengthened our market share further, cementing our number one market position.

Volume increased slightly, and good growth for our premium portfolio and AFB was countered by declining volumes in our mainstream portfolio. In Kazakhstan, the beer market declined by an estimated mid-single digits, impacted by weak consumer sentiment and price increases. Although brands such as Žatecký, Garage, and Carlsberg grew, total volume development was negative, impacted by tough comps due to stock build in Q1 last year and also our decision to optimize portfolio profitability, which meant that we had deprioritized certain economy brands. In our export and license business, we saw very good growth for our AFB portfolio, but lower volumes in a couple of license markets. Let's go to slide 10 and the earnings outlook for the year. We are now four months into the year, but we still have the important summer months ahead of us.

As you're well aware, the global macro environment and consumer sentiments are volatile and difficult to predict. At this time, though, we have not seen many material changes to consumer behaviors in our markets. Our cost assumptions for the year remain unchanged, and we expect a flattish development in cost of sales per hectoliter, but a moderate increase in our total cost base due to slightly higher commercial investments. This includes marketing, sales, capability building such as value management and B2B e-commerce, but also some ERP renovations. In our outlook, we assume a significant direct impact from U.S. tariffs as our exposure to the U.S. is less than 0.1% of total volumes. As a consequence of all this, we maintain our earnings expectations for 2025 of an organic operating profit growth of 1%-5%.

We are satisfied with the Q1 performance in Britvic and the actions taken in terms of business integration and synergy realization, and we continue therefore to expect an operating profit contribution of GBP 250 million. Based on yesterday's FX rate, we assume a translation impact on operating profit of around -DKK 200 million for 2025, compared with previous expectations of DKK 150 million+ . The negative translation impact is due to most currencies weakening versus the Danish kroner, with the biggest impact coming from Asian currencies, including the Chinese, Laotian, Malaysian currencies, and the Kazakh and Ukrainian currencies. The currency impact does not include the impact of hyperinflation accounting in Laos or the currency impact on profits in Britvic, and the latter will in 2025 be included in the acquisition impact. We now expect net finance cost, excluding FX, to be better than previously expected.

This positive development is mainly due to the well-executed refinancing of our bridge facility. As a consequence, we now expect net finance cost of around DKK 2.5 billion, compared to previous expectations of DKK 2.6-DKK 2.7 billion. The assumed tax rate of 23% and the CapEx of DKK 7 billion-DKK 8 billion remain unchanged. Now over to you, Jacob.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Thank you. Slide 11, please. Thanks, Ulrica. Before opening up for Q&A, let me just summarize what you just heard here. First of all, in a continued soft consumer environment, we delivered a slight volume decline, mainly due to the later Easter and the loss of the San Miguel brand. We delivered a solid start to the year in our key markets like China, India, and the U.K., as well as good growth in our key strategic growth drivers, including premium beer and alcohol-free brews. Looking ahead to the rest of the year, a key priority is, of course, the integration of Britvic and the realization of synergies. We're really excited about this business, and we're really excited about the quality of the brands and the amazing colleagues that have come on board.

We're going to continue to develop and invest behind our growth categories, our growth markets, and our capabilities. The higher commercial investments will be supported by continued efficiency improvements in supply chain, driving top-line growth, and improving gross margin will enable us to deliver compounding long-term operating profit growth. On the back of that, we are fully confirming our full-year EBIT guidance. Now let's go into Q&A. As usual, we will limit the number of questions to two per person to ensure that as many as possible will get a chance to get through. After your questions, you are indeed welcome to join the queue again, of course, if you have more questions to ask. With that, we're now ready to take questions. Thank you. Over to you, operator.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their phone. You will hear a tone to confirm that you have entered the queue. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Questioners on the phone are requested to disable the loudspeaker mode while asking a question. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. The first question comes from the line of Simon Hales from Citi. Please go ahead.

Simon Hales
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you. Good morning, Jacob. Morning, Ulrica. Morning, Peter. Two for me then, please. I wonder if you could talk a little bit, Jacob, about sort of how trading has evolved since the end of the quarter. Clearly, you're a month in now. We've had some pretty decent weather, I think, in Europe, and we've had Easter. Any comments around the sort of momentum there some more recently in your sort of core businesses? Secondly, Ulrica, you mentioned, I think, in your comments around Western Europe, the price renegotiations with customers have been concluded. Were there any issues to call out there or any ongoing issues as those price renegotiations have sort of gone into market? How do we think about the scale of some of those moves going forward? Thank you.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Hi, Simon. Good morning to you. Let me start on the trading questions. Of course, we can't give you all the details of April, but I can confirm that things are going according to plan. We had a lot of questions this morning around global impacts on consumers, etc. We see in April that is trending according to plan. We've had a good Easter in Europe. Across Europe, as you point out, there's both the overall Easter impact and weather has also been okay. Overall, April according to plan, and that, of course, is confirming the trends that we would expect. Happy with April, but of course, we are looking into some big summer months, as always, as you know. That will also be a key factor. Ulrica, on the pricing?

Ulrica Fearn
CFO, Carlsberg Group

Yeah, on the pricing, yes, we are indeed. We are close to closing all of them. There are some left outstanding as the timing of the quarter progresses, but most of them are closed. Not any direct issues to report. We are, of course, as we've always said, continuing to take price to make sure that we drive and offset the cost we're seeing in our underlying cost base, which is, of course, lower now than it used to be with very high inflation, and we continue to do that, but no direct issues to report.

Simon Hales
Managing Director, Citi

Got it. Jacob, just coming back to your comments on April, it's obviously positive with regards to Europe. Does that also hold true for China, given the positive volume development we saw in Q1? Is that continuing as we look into the Q2 period?

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

When we look at, of course, Easter is not a debate when we talk about China as such, but no, listen, we see the continued stabilization of China in the beginning of the year that has also continued in April. I would say it's still solid in China.

Simon Hales
Managing Director, Citi

Brilliant. Thank you both.

Operator

We now have a question from the line of Andrea Pistacchi, Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Andrea Pistacchi
Managing Director, Bank of America

Yes, good morning. My two questions are just following up on China, where you returned to growth. I mean, the environment is obviously very uncertain. Tariffs on the one hand, potential domestic stimulus, easy comps. How do you feel about China for the remainder of the year? What is the sense from your people on the ground? You just commented, obviously, that in recent weeks, things have continued to stabilize, but get a broader sense of your expectations for China. My second question, please, is on Europe. Now, excluding San Miguel, Europe had a very solid performance, positive, better, I think, than other beverage peers.

Poland, I saw you were saying was an important driver, but can you give a bit more color on what, in your view, is driving the outperformance there, whether you think this is sustainable, whether you're expecting to have a better year in Europe despite the environment? Thank you.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Hey, Andrea. Thank you very much for those two questions. Let me try to address them. Yeah, on China, if you look at the rest of the year, I think you're highlighting some of the, I wouldn't say uncertainties, but question marks. There's a lot of moving parts at the moment. It is stable at the moment, as I also said with April, but of course, we can paint pictures that will both pull the market up and pull the market down, depending on how you expect the current uncertainty around tariffs to play out. If you look at it, last year, the market declined by an estimated 4%. This year, in Q1, we believe the market improved a bit, down 2%-3%.

When you look at the rest of the year, I think if you look at the negatives to start with, of course, the consumer sentiment has not suddenly turned. It's still relatively depressed. We still have high youth unemployment, etc. On-trade is still under pressure. Channel mix is under pressure. On the positive side, you are right. Of course, there is the unknown of tariffs. On the positive side, we will have easier weather comes later in the year. You do have a lot of talk around potential 2025 stimulus. We are seeing off-trade improve versus the on-trade deterioration. There are pluses and minuses here. Our key focus is going to be on continuously increasing the market share, like we did again in Q1. It's especially the distribution into big cities. You saw our big city performance.

That is what is driving, again, the performance here in Q1. Then continued growth of premium within that. We are putting more focus on the off-trade channel and on convenience and e-commerce, where we see continued growth opportunities. That is also what is driving it here. Overall, listen, it would be too big a call to make a definitive perspective on how the Chinese market will develop the rest of the year. We overall, right now, see a market that is slightly better than it was last year. We are outperforming that market a bit, as you can see from Q1. My best estimate for now will have to be that that is the environment that we are looking into for the rest of the year, but it comes with a lot of uncertainties, of course. On Europe, you are right. Good strength in Europe.

A number of markets, despite Easter, a number of markets did relatively well. You're right. Poland was definitely one which was very strong. Overall, when you look across those markets, not to spend the next half an hour going through every European market, but if you look overall, U.K. has strong momentum when you exclude San Miguel. We're seeing very good traction on Poretti and Carlsberg and 1664. The beer portfolio is doing very well. Across Western Europe, you know by now, most of our markets are CSD markets at this stage. We're seeing good CSD performance, actually very good CSD performance across Western Europe. Our soft drinks franchises are part of our strong performance in Q1. I think it plays into the diversification of our category mix. Beer has been a bit under pressure in Q1, but we're seeing good growth in premium beer.

We're seeing good growth in Beyond Beer in Western Europe. We're seeing good growth in alcohol-free. We're seeing good growth in soft drinks, which by now is a significant part of our Western European business. I think it's the strength of the portfolio and the strength of our category diversification that is giving us that. We don't think it's, as you said, unsustainable. We think it plays to the strength of our portfolio.

Andrea Pistacchi
Managing Director, Bank of America

Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Mr. Sanjeet from UBS. Please go ahead.

Hi, Jacob and Ulrica. A couple from me, please. Firstly, just coming back to the Britvic underlying performance, can you give us a sense of the magnitude of the impact from the contract terminations in Q1 and the expectations for the full year there? What is driving the weakness in the U.K. on trade? Just coming back to the U.K. business, I think you spoke about some contract wind. Are you starting to see some benefits there from the Britvic side of business? Just give us a bit more color there, please. Thank you.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Thank you very much, indeed. I'm being told by IR you technically sneaked in three questions, but we'll do it anyway because it's a sunny day in Copenhagen. Yeah, but don't do it again. No, in terms of the contract terminations, we're not going to give you a specific number because then it becomes too detailed. If you look at the negative performance in France, it's mainly that. Of course, the French market is not in significant growth, but if you take out the contract terminations, then you would expect the performance like you're seeing in the U.K., as an example. Of course, as we say, and as I also said in my opening remarks, you would expect as we come into the business here, we are taking a hard look at the portfolio, making sure that we're optimizing and right-sizing it.

The important thing is the underlying performance, which we're very pleased with. In terms of the U.K., listen, overall performance, happy with that. It's a tough quarter in terms of comps and Easter. The slide down is as expected. In terms of U.K. on trade, not a particular change in terms of the new weakness or anything like that. It's just we have to say that U.K. on trade has been a bit subdued for quite a period by now. We're not seeing any sudden change, and that's also having an impact on our business. We're not seeing a step change, negative step change. It's a continued softness on trade. The last question was on wins. Yes, listen, we are seeing some early wins. I know some companies will mention specific names. We will not, but we are seeing early wins. We're quite pleased with that.

Net-net, it's positive what we're seeing on the wind side, which is pleasing. You would always expect when you do a major acquisition like this that there would be some contracts that potentially are at risk. That's expected, but it's also nice to see that we're winning some quite significant customers as well. Overall, net-net, we're positive on the contract side, which is very pleasing to see. I have to say the conversations we're having with the big strategic customers has accelerated faster than we would expect it to at this stage. There's a lot of excitement and pull from both major on-trade and off-trade customers around what the combined portfolio can do to them, which is very exciting.

It's one of the things that we've highlighted from the beginning that we, from experience with the many soft drinks markets that we do run across Western Europe, we are of course known for decades what we can do on the revenue side. We're starting to see that come through in the early conversations. Early excitement around the fact that the business case truly stacks up around Britvic.

Great. Thank you.

Operator

We now have a question from the line of Edward Mundy from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Edward Mundy
Managing Director, Jefferies

Morning, Jacob, Ulrica, and Peter. Two questions, please. First one, perhaps for Ulrica. Commodities are starting to see a little bit of softening across the piece. Could you remind us on hedging for 2025, and to what extent this is more of a benefit for 2026 and 2027? Second of all, perhaps for you, Jacob, you mentioned you're excited about your amazing colleagues from Britvic. I mean, are there any learnings so far from Britvic's ways of working that you think can be applied across the broader Carlsberg business, either on the beer business alone or where you're multi-beverage?

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

I think when we talk about the excitement, there's a number of things around it. One of them is just a very committed and high-quality workforce, which is great to see. We're starting to see senior Britvic colleagues taking up key positions at the combined group as well, which is nice to see. It's also a very well-invested business with an updated and well-maintained supply chain, which is great to see. We're not coming into any negative surprises on the supply chain. If I had to highlight something where they can truly drive, you can say capability-wise, can drive something across the group, I have been impressed by the innovation capabilities of the Britvic group. Of course, we are not in any way strangers to innovation.

As you know, we have an award-winning research lab, etc. It is great to see the very, very short time to market that Britvic has operated with in terms of driving innovation, constantly innovating within the categories, within the different soft drinks categories, and constantly redefining the market and leading the market into new innovations. I think we can learn from that. That is also why we are combining the best of both worlds on the innovation side, and especially the go-to-market model around new innovation. If I had to highlight one, I think that would be one. The overall quality of the colleagues that are coming in, of course, is also important. It is great to see, especially that innovative power.

You can say, given that it doubles our soft drinks portfolio, it more than doubles our soft drinks capabilities because it is really a well-invested innovation and development setup that Britvic has. Ulrica, over to you on the commodities.

Ulrica Fearn
CFO, Carlsberg Group

Yeah, summary on the commodities. I can say that for 2025, as I mentioned before, our COGS per hectoliter are continuing to be expected to be flattish. We are now, to your question, hedged more than 85% for 2025 within that. There are some ups and downs, of course, in the markets, as you referred to. We are, of course, looking and monitoring them very closely. There have been some opportunities on oil, on gas, on aluminum, plastics. Many of the others, like barley, sugar, etc., are locally sourced, so less of an implication on them in the global markets as well. We are looking into seeing whether we can add any more hedges around, for example, aluminum and energy. That will be favorable to 2026, therefore, instead of 2025, as and when we do that.

Edward Mundy
Managing Director, Jefferies

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Søren Samsøe from SEB. Please go ahead.

Søren Samsøe
Member of Global Investment Banking Management, SEB

Yes, good morning, Jacob, Ulrica, and Peter. My first question is on Vietnam. You talk about the difficult pricing environment, maybe go a little bit into detail with that, and also remind us on the excise tax in Vietnam when they are due and how much this is impacting the consumer price. Secondly, on France, if you can comment a little bit on the pricing strategy this year and how we expect that to impact the volumes for the rest of the year. Thank you.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Hi, Sir. Thanks for your questions. If I do Vietnam, then Ulrica will speak to France. Just on, so additional call on Vietnam. Listen, we had a weaker quarter this quarter after a number of good quarters. This was a weaker quarter. When we look at it, it is especially driven by Central Vietnam. As you know, I know you know our business very well. We have a high proportion of our business in Central Vietnam. When you look at the market development in the first quarter, no doubt that Central Vietnam was significantly weaker than the rest of the country, North and South. We were hit disproportionately with the market weakness in Central given our portfolio. On top of that, we did see some competitive pressure increase in Central. It is a combination of a weak market and increased competitive intensity.

I think that's the additional color around it. We still have the same belief in the long-term potential of the Vietnamese market and the Vietnamese business. For us, Q1 was weaker, no doubt about it, but it doesn't change our perspective on the attractiveness of this. We'll readjust. Also, of course, the market will continue to develop, and Central will not remain weak for the full year. Let's see. You asked specifically on Vietnam on the excise changes. We haven't seen a final decision on the excise changes. At this stage, I can't give you a firm answer. Of course, we'll keep you updated when we have firm perspectives on it. At this stage, it would be speculation from my side. Once we know something, we'll let you know.

Of course, it's going to impact the entire market, not just us. Ulrica, France?

Ulrica Fearn
CFO, Carlsberg Group

Yeah. On the customer negotiations, they're same as the general comment on Western Europe. We have concluded the negotiations, but we won't see them in the markets until we come into the pricing and promotions will be visible towards the end of April and May. Here we are clearly, as we looked in last year, we are working through to make sure we've got the right price pack and promotional architecture as we do so.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Would it be fair to be a little bit more positive on the volumes in this year, you think, in France?

Ulrica Fearn
CFO, Carlsberg Group

We have been improving our architecture, and we're trying to recover what we lost on the back of pricing last year.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Thanks, Sir.

Operator

We now have a question from the line of Chris Pitcher from Redburn Atlantic. Please go ahead.

Chris Pitcher
Partner, Redburn Atlantic

Good morning. One clarification and a question from me, please. On the U.K. new contract wins, can you give a sense of the scale there? I mean, I assume these are on the back of Britvic. On a sort of like-for-like basis, would you have still grown in the U.K., or was it all down to these synergies? On India, another strong quarter. Are you still running into capacity constraints? Can you just update us on capacity expansion planning, timing, and so forth? Thanks.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Thanks, Chris. On the clarification on the U.K. new growth, the net growth we're seeing in the U.K., it's not driven by the new wins. Of course, the new wins also has an impact, but we would be growing even without the wins. When you look at India, the growth we're delivering, I think Ulrica said, double-digit growth in the quarter, which is clearly higher than the market. We did not see any capacity constraints in the quarter. When we look at it right now, the mix of states where we are performing is also a mix of states where we are not constrained on the supply chain side. We are in the process of finalizing a number of supply chain projects at the moment.

Therefore, you would also expect us—we will not be specific because we are in state discussions—but you would also expect us, you would expect to see more greenfield projects come on stream in the coming years in India. We are not sitting on our hands. We would expect that in the coming years, you will see two to three new brewery additions in India. In the meantime, we feel confident that we have the broad capacity we need in terms of the supply we get from the capacity we get from our co-packer partners across the states. Of course, as you know, we have historically had quarters where we have seen rapid demand increase in certain states where we did not have the co-packer capabilities. Of course, that can happen going forward.

At this moment, we don't see a constraint, and we don't see that either in Q2.

Chris Pitcher
Partner, Redburn Atlantic

Thank you. Just confirm that's two to three new breweries, not per annum, but in total.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Yeah, not per annum, no. Otherwise, I need to give you a new CapEx guidance as well.

Chris Pitcher
Partner, Redburn Atlantic

Yeah. Thanks.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Thank you. Operator, are you still there?

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Olivier Nicolai from GS. Please go ahead.

U.K. regarding the San Miguel volume loss, I believe Marston's and also Wetherspoons have replaced San Miguel with Britvic. Overall, how much of the volumes did you manage to recover with an alternative brand in the off-trade, but also in the on-trade in the U.K.? Secondly, in Denmark, I think there's been some calls for boycotts of U.S. products. I just wanted to know if there was any impact on Coke there and if you've seen some local brands trying to benefit from that. Thank you.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Thanks, Olivier. We missed the slight beginning of your question, but I think we got it. Maybe it's just on our side here. You mentioned Wetherspoons, and then you said specifically how much of the San Miguel volume we have replaced. We're not going to give you a quarterly tracking on that, and you would appreciate that that's also giving a little bit too much information to our competitors as well. We said last year that it's going to take us a couple of years to fully replace the volume, and that's still the statement here. We're off to a good start, but it's going to take time, no doubt about it. We're very pleased with the growth rates we're seeing. We're seeing Britvic almost double in Q1, which says something around the growth rates we're seeing on these brands.

You also know the size of the San Miguel business was very big. It is going according to plan, probably slightly ahead, if we have to be honest, slightly ahead of plan, which is great because when brands get momentum, it will usually last for a while. We are still sticking to the statement that it is going to take a couple of years to fully replace the volume. You asked around Denmark. There is a level of consumer boycott around U.S. brands. When we look at our, and it is the only market where we are seeing that to a large extent. When we look at our portfolio, our overall soft drinks portfolio is up. You are referring to the Coca-Cola brand that we bottle in Denmark. Our Coca-Cola volumes are slightly down in Denmark.

On the other hand, our recently relaunched T uborg Squash is delivering significant growth. Overall, soft drinks are up. If you look at who is taking share, there are some smaller local brands that are taking some share in that market, but it is not dramatic when you look at the overall volumes. Listen, we fully respect people's decisions. For us, it is not about being pro or con a boycott. For us, it is about making sure that we are there delivering the product choice to our consumers. We do also remind people, of course, that Coca-Cola and, for that sake, Pepsi in Denmark, are both being produced by Danish brewery workers in Danish breweries. These are very much, from our perspective, also Danish brands.

Thank you very much. Very clear.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Mitch Collett from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Mitch Collett
Director, Deutsche Bank

Morning, Jacob and Ulrica. Going back to China, I think you call out in the statement that there has been some softness in local mainstream in Western China. Is that just macro, or is there anything else going on? Are there any signs of improvement as you progress through the quarter? The second question, I guess, is linked to what you just said. You've had very strong growth for alcohol-free brews. Can you maybe give a bit of color on what's driving that acceleration? Do you think it's sustainable at the level you've achieved in Q1?

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Hey, Mitch. Let me start on China. Yeah, no, listen, there's not a lot of drama as such. I think the local mainstream being slightly weaker in the quarter in Western China, it is macro-driven. When you look at it, given our market shares, as you know, in these provinces and states, we will, of course, be a mirror of the overall economy. We're seeing a weakness, the consumer weakness in those regions. Therefore, it's also impacting our local mainstream brands. It's not anything specific around specific brands or specific channels or categories, etc. It's just an overall slight weakness on the consumer spending. Ulrica, maybe you on the alcohol-free?

Ulrica Fearn
CFO, Carlsberg Group

Yeah. Yes, indeed, it is great to see the alcohol-free brews growing. It is, of course, we are calling that out as one of our growth categories. Indeed, in there, Mitch, it is a structural growth that we see continue to build, whether that's the category has become fairly the velocity is quite strong, the occasions are building, and of course, the products have got a great taste and a sort of health side to that too. It sort of hits all the different notes, and we see that as a structural change going forward that we continue to capitalize on.

Mitch Collett
Director, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thank you.

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

Thanks, Ulrica. I'm being told that, Operator, we should have the last question.

Operator

The last question comes from the line of Trevor Stirling from Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Trevor Stirling
Senior Research Analyst and Managing Director, Bernstein

Morning, everyone. Just one from me. With regards to Britvic, Jacob, pre-last year, it seemed to be delivering your mid-single-digit plus organic revenue growth. I appreciate there's a lot of moving parts with Easter and your deliberate actions in a number of countries. Are you still comfortable and confident that that's what we should be expecting in terms of underlying growth from the Britvic business?

Jacob Aarup-Andersen
CEO, Carlsberg Group

The answer is yes, Trevor. We do not see any change in the growth profile of the business. As I said earlier, the business case is being confirmed by everything we see and all the actions we are taking. Therefore, the answer is yes. We are still as excited about the growth potential of the Britvic business, and we do not see a step change from that.

Perfect. Thank you very much.

Thank you so much. I think on that note, thank you so much for your questions and your interest. We'll be seeing a lot of you over the coming days, so we look forward to that. Until that, have a great day. Thank you.

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