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Earnings Call: Q2 2025

Aug 14, 2025

Nynne Lee
Head of Group Communications, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Good morning and welcome to Nilfisk's Conference Call for the Second Quarter of 2025. My name is Nynne Jespersen Lee, Head of Group Communications, and with me today are Jon Sintorn, CEO, and Carl Bandhold, CFO. Before passing the word over to Jon, I would like to turn your attention to slide two regarding forward-looking statements. Please note that this presentation, including remarks from management, may contain forward-looking statements that should not be relied upon as predictions of actual results. For more details, please read the content on this slide. With that, I would like to pass the word over to Jon.

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Thank you, Nynne, and good morning to everyone joining us on the call. Before we dive into the second quarter results, let me take this opportunity to briefly reintroduce Nilfisk for you. Nilfisk was founded in 1906 and has grown into one of the world's leading providers of professional cleaning equipment and services. Today, our solutions are sold in over 100 countries through more than 40 sales companies. We have a broad range of industries, from manufacturing to healthcare to retail and hospitality, with a portfolio that spans from advanced industrial vacuum solutions to high-pressure washers and floorcare equipment. We have a full range of floorcare, vacuum cleaners, and high-pressure washers, contributing to our ability to meet evolving customer needs.

Looking at the regional footprint based on full-year 2024 figures, EMEA continues to be our largest market, accounting for 60% of revenue, followed by the Americas at 33% and APAC at 7%. We operate across four business verticals: contract cleaners and institutions, including education, offices, retail, healthcare, and hospitality; industry, such as manufacturing, warehousing, food and beverage, and pharma; and for these segments, cleaning, support, safety, and compliance; agriculture, construction, and automotive, sectors that need robust equipment for demanding environments; and consumer households using our vacuum cleaners and high-pressure washers for everyday cleaning tasks. With that context, let's turn to our second quarter key highlights. A key milestone this quarter was the completion of our production consolidation in Hungary, which strengthened our supply chain resilience and supported gross margin. As we said we would, we reallocated resources from back-office functions to front-line commercial positions.

To protect margins and free up resources for future growth, we launched a cost reduction program in the second quarter. The program is designed to align our cost base more closely with our business volumes and address the rise in overhead costs we saw since Q3 2024. We had another new product introduced. We launched the SW3000 sweeper, a mid-size sweeper designed for contract cleaners, retail, education, and light industry. The product improves maintenance and efficiency and is made of 25% recycled plastic. This product addresses a more premium niche to complement existing products in this category. Another important milestone we reached this quarter was that our net zero emissions targets were officially validated by the Science-Based Targets initiative, confirming the strength of our climate roadmap. We are now committed to achieving net zero across our entire value chain by 2040. U.S. tariffs have continued to influence how we operate.

In the second quarter, we were also hit by a one-off incident where we had an extraordinary short-lived tariff level come into effect. Even with these temporary headwinds, we kept a healthy gross margin, which shows the strength and flexibility of our operations. On the back of recent U.S. tariffs agreements, we expect a higher tariff level, which we will, with a little lag, mitigate with price increases and supply chain resourcing. Now, let's move to some of the key numbers for the second quarter. We reported revenue of €269 million, corresponding to a negative organic growth of 1.1%. We had an EBITDA before special items of €36.4 million, corresponding to an EBITDA margin, BSI, of 13.5%, down from 14.1% last year due to lower revenue combined with increased investments in sales organization and product development.

The specialty business delivered very strong organic growth of 10.8%, supported by solid sales momentum in the U.S. and robust demand for new products. The consumer business saw a decline of 5.1% due to muted demand in predominantly the high-pressure washer category, as well as vacuum cleaners. The service business grew slightly by 0.3%, driven by strong field service growth in EMEA. The professional business saw a negative organic growth of 2.4%. By region, we continue to grow in EMEA and APAC. Americas sequentially improved compared to the previous quarter, but is still showing negative organic growth year- on- year. Turning now to an update per region. We continue to see growth in the EMEA region, which was driven by moderate growth in the service business, strong growth in the specialty business, and slight growth within the professional business.

The growth in EMEA was negatively impacted by a decline in the consumer business. Although the more fluctuating consumer market softened due to weaker demand for high-pressure washers, we gained market share in Germany and France. Excluding consumer, growth in EMEA was 1.8%. Americas improved sequentially, but is still showing negative organic growth. This was driven by a high backlog in the same quarter last year, a soft demand, and lower production capacity in the hurricane-affected U.S. high-pressure washer business, which is held for sale. Excluding the high-pressure washer business, growth in Americas was showing sequential improvement. In APAC, we continue to make good progress and delivered another quarter of growth, driven by a sharpened commercial focus and improved execution under since one and a half years' new leadership. This quarter's performance was supported by major contract wins, particularly in India, South Korea, and Australia.

Speaking of the wins of India, we would like to highlight an example. We, in Nilfisk, delivered 24 autonomous scrubbers to Ahmedabad Airport. That is our largest robotic deployment in APAC. In just 60 days, the fleet cleaned over stunning 5 sq m million , boosting efficiency and sustainability in a high-traffic, water-stressed environment. This has really sparked a significant regional interest, positioning us strongly for future smart cleaning initiatives in India. I will now then hand over to Carl, which will give you more of a financial update.

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Thank you, Jon, and good morning, everyone. I look forward to taking you through our financials for Q2, as well as our outlook for the rest of the year. Let's start with the P&L. As Jon just mentioned, we had an EBITDA BSI of 13.5%, in line with our targets for the year.

Gross margin was a solid 42.2%, slightly down from Q1, driven primarily by tariffs, but I'll get back to that. Also, we can see OpEx starting to decrease slightly, which enabled us, as mentioned, to reach our target level on EBITDA. Let's go through the P&L a little bit more line by line. Let's start with the first, revenue. Overall, negative organic growth of 1.1%. Breaking things down a little bit, I guess on the positive note, we are continuing to grow in EMEA, in APAC, as well as in Latin America. If you looked at our businesses, as Jon mentioned, the specialty business is really doing well, while the consumer business is a little bit more challenged. Looking at the details, perhaps a bit more by region then. Overall, organic growth of 0.7% in EMEA, including consumer, taking consumer out, a positive growth of 1.8%.

Year- to- date, so first six months, a very healthy organic growth of 4.2%. Turning to APAC, as Jon mentioned, we have made the leadership changes there over the last 18 months. In the last few quarters, we're really starting to see results. Another quarter of organic growth. Q2 this year, 2.7% compared to a negative organic growth of 8.7% last year. For the first six months, very much in the same direction, 2.8% organic growth. We are at a different momentum in APAC than we were a year ago, clearly. Turning to our more challenging parts, Americas, as I just mentioned, we have a very nice business in Latin America that continues to grow, while the U.S. is challenging for us.

As Jon mentioned, probably the biggest challenge there is the U.S. high-pressure washer business, which is suffering from limited production capacity following the hurricane, as we have discussed before. Looking at the rest of the business, excluding U.S. high-pressure washer, growth in the second quarter was a - 1.4%, which is significantly better than a - 7.7% in the first quarter. Clear sequential improvement, which we are very happy about. That was growth and revenue. Let's continue down in the P&L and go to gross margin. As I just mentioned, solid gross margin of 42%, very much in line with where we were a year ago, slightly down from Q1 where we were above 43%. The key drivers here, if we compare to last year, are, you know, we had materially higher tariffs in the quarter.

A little over half of that, though, was kind of one-time things that we don't expect to see going forward.

Even so, we were able to offset both high tariffs and some underabsorption in our production facilities with the price increases we implemented at the beginning of the year more broadly and more specifically for Chinese goods coming into the U.S. in April. Moving on to operating expenses. At the beginning of the year, we talked about reshaping our cost structure, reducing cost in back-office functions, and increasing sales and service density. We have done this also in the second quarter. As we discussed after the first quarter, we also have an ambition now to reduce our cost base on a run-rate basis, and we started the cost program in the second quarter to address this. We have made significant progress, and we implemented a reduction in force in May.

We cannot really see a lot of the impact of that in Q2, but we expect to see that in the coming quarters. We will continue to take cost reduction measures to achieve our targets here. Moving on then to the balance sheet and cash flow, I guess here is an area where we can see some of the effects of the cost reduction program, as we had special items of close to $8 million in the quarter. We had negative cash flow again. When I look at it, I think in terms of cash conversion, so were we able to convert our EBITDA profit into cash flow? The things that stand out here to me are an increase of $21.6 million in working capital in the quarter, as well as the special items of just under $8 million in the quarter.

We also had a capital expenditure of about $7.5 million, but that's more in line with the plan and actually quite a significant reduction over last year. That was the results for the second quarter. Let's move on to the outlook for the rest of the year. At the beginning of the year, our expectation was to grow between 1% and 3% organically and have an EBITDA margin of 13.4%. We reiterate this guidance. The key assumptions here are that we have stable market conditions in EMEA, so we can continue to perform well there. We expect to have a neutral development in the U.S. compared to last year. We expect the APAC region to continue on its current pace. Furthermore, those are the things kind of supporting the growth outlook.

Looking at profitability then, we expect to be able to offset the current level of tariffs with the pricing and the supply chain initiatives, as Jon mentioned. Furthermore, we have taken action to reduce our cost base. We've already executed on a significant part of that in Q2. We expect to see results of that in the second half of the year. Based on that, as I mentioned, we reiterate our guidance. Looking at our priorities for the year and progress on that. Also at the beginning of the year, we talked about three main focus areas: improvement in our competitive position in North America, enhancement of our operating model, as well as executing structural efficiency improvements. I will talk about structural efficiency improvements and then let Jon discuss the other two.

In the first half of the year, we were able to consolidate our production facilities in Hungary, reducing our operations overhead significantly. In addition, as I just mentioned, we have made a workforce reduction to reduce our operating expenses. We are in the process of divesting our U.S. high-pressure washer business. During the second quarter, we also closed a couple of sales entities in APAC to achieve higher profitability there. Looking into the second half of the year, I look forward to realizing our cost savings targets based on our cost savings initiatives that will continue throughout the year. We are also very much looking forward to finalizing the divestment of the U.S. high-pressure washer business. With the two consecutive quarters of negative cash flow, we are looking at addressing working capital to return to change the trend here. With that, I hand over to you. Thank you.

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Thank you, Carl. Moving on in the strategic roadmap for 2025, looking at enhancing the operating model. As has been mentioned already, we are reshaping our cost structure with the ambition to relatively see more of our resource going into the commercial activities and products and services, and less into back-office administrative. We have started really to implement a new decentralized operating model. One key activity in this is obviously to reorganize to reflect this new operating model where they have the commercial regions being close to the customers and driving our P&L. Going forward, we will continue to even more tailor our value proposition more effectively across customer verticals that will really take the customer need approach or customer demand approach to our propositions.

We will continue to reshape our cost structure and also adapt the financial performance management to align the reporting to the more decentralized operating model for even better and even more effective decision-making. Looking at improving the competitive position in North America, we have reduced backlog and improved delivery performance. We have delayed the commercial organization, and we have continued to work on increasing sales activities and starting to address sales density in this region. Going forward, as a priority for the second half, is obviously to continue to increase sales density, to drive sales of the new products, and to continue to improve product and parts delivery performance to enable us to be doing even better in this region. With that, thank you very much, everybody, for listening. We move over to the Q&A.

Operator

We will now begin the question- and- answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press Star and one on their telephone. You'll hear a tone to confirm that you have entered the queue. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press Star and two. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. The first question comes from the line of Kristian Turling, SEB. Please go ahead.

Kristian Tornøe
Equity Analyst, SEB

Thank you, and good morning from my side. A couple of questions. First one goes to your organic growth guidance, the 1%- 3%, which obviously requires a substantially better second half than your first half. To the assumptions, you say neutral development in the U.S. versus 2024. I'm just curious on the assumption and the technical treatment of the high-pressure washer business. Assume you sell the high-pressure washer business during the second half of the year, do you then restate previous quarters? If I calculate right, the high-pressure washer business diluted organic growth for the group in the first half by more than 1 percentage point. Would you then exclude that, or would you only exclude it on a sort of a forward-going basis?

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Morning, Kristian. Thanks for the question. Regarding the treatment of the U.S. high-pressure washer business, I expected we would take it out for the comparison if we are able to divest it during the year, yes.

Kristian Tornøe
Equity Analyst, SEB

Okay. For the first half, if you exclude the high-pressure washer business, your organic growth, as I calculated, would be 0%. That's essentially what we should look at when benchmarking against your 1%- 3% guidance.

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Yeah, I think that would be appropriate.

Kristian Tornøe
Equity Analyst, SEB

You assume to, yeah. Okay. You do expect to close the sale of the high-pressure washer. Can you maybe elaborate on that process? Do you have concrete dialogues with buyers at this point?

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Yes, we have a concrete dialogue with buyers. These processes are always uncertain, but we have significant interest. We hope and expect to close this. Obviously, we don't know now, but we hope to close this before year-end, yes.

Kristian Tornøe
Equity Analyst, SEB

Okay, that makes sense. Just staying on the U.S., because regardless of that transaction, it still requires an improvement in the U.S. You have sort of had some tailwind from backlog conversion acceleration, which I guess you will not necessarily have to the same extent in the second half of the year. What makes you confident in the underlying improvement, and what have you seen in the third quarter so far?

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Thank you for the question. As you mentioned, the backlog effect obviously decreases significantly in the second half compared to the first half. Due to some reasons, we have improved comps, easier comps, so to speak, for the second half than the first half, backlog being one driver. We also have introduced some new products, which we expect will have a better effect, as we communicated before, more effect in the second half than it had in the first half. We are working on commercial activities, and we will increase density and those other things and improve our overall performance, delivery performance, as we have worked on. That will have an effect.

Kristian Tornøe
Equity Analyst, SEB

Can you see this improvement in your July figures?

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

This is a call about the second quarter. As we said, we are seeing not a gigantic by any means, but we are seeing a sequential improvement.

Kristian Tornøe
Equity Analyst, SEB

Okay. Fair enough. My other question goes to working capital. Of course, as you pointed out, it's a pretty steep increase and a significant drag on cash flow. What can you do to actually reduce this, and where do you expect working capital to be at year-end?

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Yeah, as I mentioned, we were also disappointed with the cash flow development and working capital increase in the quarter. What can we do? I think some of the things that increased in the quarter were kind of more, you know, natural course of business. We invoiced quite a lot towards the end of the quarter in the Americas, for instance, which meant that the receivables went up. That will naturally come down. That was kind of a more temporary effect. In addition, we are starting initiatives to reduce working capital more structurally.

Kristian Tornøe
Equity Analyst, SEB

Where do you expect it to be year-end? I mean.

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

I think the first focus is to get back to kind of more of a normal level. I think we were at kind of a normal level ending last year. I think we should be able to get back to that within the next few quarters.

Kristian Tornøe
Equity Analyst, SEB

Okay, Q4 this year should end roughly where you ended Q4 last year. That's the ambition.

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Within a few quarters, I said a few can be two, three, four. Yes, that's kind of what we're shooting for.

Kristian Tornøe
Equity Analyst, SEB

Okay. Fair enough. Great. Thank you. That's all for me.

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Casper Blom, Danske Bank. Please go ahead.

Casper Blom
Equity Analyst, Danske Bank

Thanks a lot. Our first question goes to tariffs and basically to your slide number 13. Thanks for splitting out the impact from tariffs, the 1.9% points. As I understood you, you said that the temporarily high tariffs had an impact of a little more than half. Should we, from the back of that, expect that tariffs have a little less than 1% impact in Q3 and then in Q4 that you can make it go away due to your mitigating initiatives? Is that the way to think about tariffs for the next couple of quarters?

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Morning, Casper. Let me be distinct. What we have on the slide is the incremental cost of tariffs. Tariffs paid, not the net effect. That reflects the cost paid. As I mentioned, a little bit more than half of that were one-time things. In terms of cost, I think you're right in the assumption. We are also offsetting this with prices. The net impact is we had a net impact in the quarter specifically to that because, you know, we made a price increase in April, and that has not completely offset because it takes some time to kind of roll into effect when you make a price increase. Yes, I think we will expect to see about 1%, slightly lower than 1% impact on the cost side, but we will be able to offset that with pricing and with supply chain.

Casper Blom
Equity Analyst, Danske Bank

Already in Q3, the net impact would be neutral, basically.

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

No, it will probably take a little bit longer to get to neutral, so more towards the end of the year.

Casper Blom
Equity Analyst, Danske Bank

Okay, that is it. That's fair enough. You've previously also talked about moving production to Mexico in an effort to also sort of protect yourself against other initiatives in the future. Could you give an update on that move?

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Yes, absolutely. We have done a lot of preparations and gone through how would this work, and we've done pilots and all of that. We are prepared to go ahead if necessary. At current tariff rates, the business case doesn't suggest that we move on it. We are ready to do it if necessary.

Casper Blom
Equity Analyst, Danske Bank

Okay, you just have to plan in the draw if need be, so to say.

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Yeah, net the one-off incident that we had, if you take that out of the equation, as of now, it's still better to go with current flows as we have. We are very ready to move if things would change.

Casper Blom
Equity Analyst, Danske Bank

Okay, that is very clear. A final question, maybe most of all to Carl. Now you've had a few months more within Nilfisk, and I suppose you've had a better chance to go through numbers and books and so forth. Are you comfortable with your balance sheet as it is today in terms of what items you have? Are there anything on the balance sheet where you see a need for adjustments or impairments or things in the future, or are you sort of comfortable with what you have inherited now that you sort of have had a chance to go through it in more detail?

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Thank you. Very interesting question. There are some things on the balance sheet that you're all aware of. We have the Springdale case where we expect a decision by the author or by the courts next year that could have a potentially negative effect. We also, of course, have the divestment of the U.S. high-pressure washer business. We don't know where that will end up, but there's a risk there, of course. The other thing is we are working on an updated strategy and business plan for the company. One of the parts there is kind of reviewing our product and project portfolio within R&D. That is an area where we made a lot of CapEx in the past. We have a lot of intangibles and inventory. If that results in changes in our product portfolio, that could trigger some additional write-down needs, I guess.

Those are the kind of big things that I see. That's not anything we have concluded on.

Casper Blom
Equity Analyst, Danske Bank

No, fair enough. Do you know when you expect to have your new business plan and product planning ready so that you can decide to say, okay, this is the Nilfisk that we want to continue working with?

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

We expect to finalize that during this year.

Casper Blom
Equity Analyst, Danske Bank

Okay, that sounds like something we would hear more about in connection with full years.

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

No, I think that could be appropriate, yeah.

Casper Blom
Equity Analyst, Danske Bank

All right. Thanks a lot, guys.

Operator

As a reminder, for questions, please press S tar and one. The next question comes from the line Claus Almer, Nordea. Please go ahead.

Claus Almer
Senior Analyst, Nordea

Thank you. Yeah, also a few questions from my side. The first goes to the U.S. market and the tariffs, not the impact on the P&L, but more on the competitive landscape. Normally in the U.S., you have been facing some Chinese brands. How are they acting, given the tariffs that have now been imposed to their prices? That would be the first one.

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

The question was, how are the Chinese brands acting compared? That's a broad question. All in all, we see, globally, it's fair enough to see that we've seen, we are seeing more Chinese brands pop up in the various markets. I think also on the back of it's been more uncertain, the more costly to drive it into the U.S. We did see price increases from several, or I can't say everyone, but a lot of participants in the market in the U.S. did impose price increases during the second quarter. It has been a wait-and-see mode with regards to that since then. I guess it's not unrealistic to believe that people, including the Chinese brands, will move on price and sourcing and what have you in order to mitigate and manage the situation, which is at least a bit clearer now with the recent agreements.

Claus Almer
Senior Analyst, Nordea

Okay, thanks. The second question, this is probably to you, Carl, but actually maybe to both of you, in one or two quarters into the cost-saving program, have you made any new observations or got new ideas to further optimize the cost structure?

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Good morning, Claus.

Claus Almer
Senior Analyst, Nordea

Hey, Carl .

Carl Bandhold
CFO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Very good question. I think the themes remain very much the same. We see opportunities to run our supporting functions more effectively. Part of that is just maybe stopping doing some activities that we don't really have to do. We're also looking at the location of our people and our costs to see if we can have a higher share of those functions in low-cost locations. I think an area that we have started work on in APAC specifically is what does the cost setup look like for being present in a market? Of course, we want to be present in as many markets as possible to serve our customers globally. There are different ways, everything from having an agent to a distributor to a sales company or local warehousing, local production. I think we have sales companies in a lot of local countries with quite a high cost structure.

We're reviewing how can we be in many places and serve our customers more cost-effectively.

Claus Almer
Senior Analyst, Nordea

Okay, and then just a final question regarding this production consolidation in Hungary. Should we expect this to unlock some cost savings? Is it more about, you know, improving the delivery times and security and so on? If there are some cost savings, when will we see that in the numbers?

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

There is a gross margin improvement to be had through the consolidation. Clearly, what was the next question you said? You said cost and...

Claus Almer
Senior Analyst, Nordea

Do you also see an improved delivery certainty, or is it mostly about cost?

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

No, we will see an increased and positive effect on the gross margin. We will also be more efficient in serving now with the regions driving the P&Ls and also the supply chain or distribution responsibility for the distribution activities. It is an easier collaboration through there. We have had a temporary inventory increase effect because of the actual move into this factory. We will see some inventory reduction as an effect as well.

Claus Almer
Senior Analyst, Nordea

Yeah, you did mention that when we talked about the working capital increase in the quarter, but I guess that's also part of this $34 million increase.

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Yeah, some safety stock, in lack of a better word, for this transition was also part of it.

Claus Almer
Senior Analyst, Nordea

That will end up Q3, then that will be gone, so to speak.

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

We will consume it as volumes go, whether that's Q3 or Q4, I don't know.

Claus Almer
Senior Analyst, Nordea

Okay, thank you so much. That was all for my side.

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

All right, thanks.

Operator

That was the last question. I would now like to turn the conference back over to the CEO for the final remarks.

Jon Sintorn
CEO, Nilfisk Holding A/S

Thank you all for participating in today's call and for your continued interest in Nilfisk. We have a lot of exciting things going on. We will return with our third quarter report in November and look forward to speaking to many of you over the coming weeks. Thank you very much. Bye.

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