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Earnings Call: Q2 2022

Jul 26, 2022

Operator

Thank you all for standing by, and welcome to the Atos first half 2022 results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there'll be a question and answer session. To ask a question at that time, you'll need to press star then one on your telephone keypad. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to hand the conference over to your speakers today, the Atos management team. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Nourdine Bihmane
Co-CEO of Tech Foundations, Atos

Good morning. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for the presentation of Atos H1 2022 results. I'm Nourdine Bihmane, Co-CEO in charge of Tech Foundations. As you know, since July 13, we have strengthened our governance with a new management team that is here with me today. Together, we bring relevant skills and long-term experience in our industry across managed services, digital, cloud, finance, and more importantly, business turnaround and transformation to lead Atos in its transformation journey. I will let Philippe, Diane, and Nathalie introduce themselves shortly.

A few words on my background. I have been in this fantastic group for more than 21 years, where I have served and led teams across various countries and units. Most of my time was spent in our Managed Services business, where I executed complex turnaround in U.S., Europe, but also growing markets. Through those experience, I developed a deep understanding of our business, global operation, and our unique asset, and I have built strong relationship with our customers and our talent. Across those roles, I have built and applied a consistent playbook of turnaround that has been very successful in each of those mission, and that I will be happy applying going forward. I look forward to working alongside with the entire team to lead Atos in its new next chapter. I will now hand over to Diane to introduce herself.

Diane Galbe
Senior Executive Vice President, Atos

I am Diane Galbe, Senior Executive Vice President in charge of strategic projects and support functions for the group. In my last position before joining Atos, I was Senior Executive VP of Thales in charge of strategy and transformation, and also CEO of smart and environmental solutions globally, in particular IoT and software solutions, as well as sustainable consulting. I also have a particular experience in M&A and carve-out transactions.

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

Good morning, Philippe Oliva, Co-CEO in charge of Eviden. In my last position, I was the Chief Commercial Officer of Eutelsat in the space industry, and also worked 20 years at IBM in several leadership positions both in Europe and the U.S.

Nathalie Sénéchault
Group CFO, Atos

Good morning, everyone. I'm Nathalie Sénéchault, Group CFO. I joined Atos finance team more than seven years ago, allowing me to acquire over the years a broad perspective on the group's businesses and financial fundamentals. Before Atos, I spent my legal and finance career handling key strategic initiatives for companies such as acquisitions, spin-offs, carve-out processes, which is useful expertise to have now with Atos. As the group CFO, I will focus on the financing of the transition period, of course, but also and mostly on profitability, cost discipline, and cash generation. I'm really looking forward to having a transparent and constructive and trustful dialogue with the financial community.

Nourdine Bihmane
Co-CEO of Tech Foundations, Atos

Thank you, Nathalie. Going forward with this team, we'll be entirely focused on, first, improving Atos performance, operational performance, and second, delivering our strategic transformation project. I want to emphasize here that this management team believe that the strategic project we announced during our Capital Markets Day is the best path forward to deliver value for our stakeholders. The plan presented on June 14 is the best one for Atos, for our customer, and for our 112,000 employees. It is also the one that we are convinced will ultimately create the most value for all our shareholders. Now it's time for action. We must execute and deliver for all our stakeholder, and this is the first commitment of that Atos new management team is giving you today. With that, let's turn to the highlight of H1 2022.

As you know, in June, we announced our strategic project following six intensive months of assessment, strategy definition, but also reorganization. Now that we have a clear strategy in place, going forward, we will be laser-focused on our customers, employees, and operation, improving continuously our performance. It is now our top priority for the organization and the second commitment Atos new management team is giving you today. Also, I'm really happy to share with you today, after a fantastic job done by Diane, Nathalie, and their team, that the financing of our transformation plan is now fully secured. This is an important milestone as we now have the means to execute our strategic project during the transition period.

Now, if we look at the commercial traction, it has improved a lot in Q2, with a book-to-bill going from 72% in Q1 to 101% in Q2. I would like to stress that customer response to the announcement of our strategic plan has been very positive. We signed more than EUR 600 million order entry post-announcement, of which circa 75% are new services or new logo. As an indicator, as we look ahead, our current weighted pipeline for H2 is 30% higher than our weighted pipeline was at the beginning of the prior semester, suggesting significant continued momentum. In addition, our H1 financial performance is consistent with the back-end loaded plan, which we have previously announced. We have confirmed and refined our 2022 objective based on detail and fully operationalized plans.

Lastly, Atos continue to hire at scale and in line with our objective, with a total gross hiring of more than 16,000 people in H1. This significant growth in recruitment ensure the condition of our future growth and demonstrate Atos' ongoing attractiveness in a challenging talent market. Looking at the key figures for the semester. Revenue was slightly down -0.6% at constant currency and -2.1% organically. The positive momentum continued into Q2, with organic growth improving sequentially from -2.4% in Q1 to -1.1% in Q2. The organic growth would be -0.8%, excluding the decline in the VAR business. As a reminder, this is a business we are gradually exiting due to low margins.

Operating margin was 1.1% of revenue, impacted in particular by high cost inflation, which translated mostly as in salary but also in energy and components. Free cash flow was EUR -555 million. On top of our usual seasonality, it reflects the low level of operating margin recorded in H1. Nathalie will come back to that in details later during the presentation. Headcount reached 112,000 at the end of June, increasing +2.1% organically, mostly in our offshore centers. Turning now to commercial activity, clearly there is some good news here as we have seen a strong sequential improvement in Q2. Order entry reached EUR 2.8 billion in Q2, strongly up compared to the EUR 2 billion we recorded in Q1.

Our book-to-bill was 101% in Q2 compared to the 72% in Q1. Q2 order entry is primarily composed of small short-term deal that will feed directly our revenue growth in H2. Looking forward, our weighted pipeline for H2 is 30% higher than our weighted pipeline for H1, which again suggests that significant continued momentum. This renewed commercial traction that we expect to continue in the coming quarter reflect the benefit of our new organization structure by business line and the subsequent refocus on our core offering. On talent, again, we have been able to recruit the right talent at scale and at a steady pace in H1 with more than 16,000 gross hiring. Our attrition rate was broadly stable in Q2 versus Q1 and remained in line with industry average at around 20%.

As you noticed, we did continue to grow our headcount in H1, whereas our revenue did not. This might have held back our margin in H1, but in the context of our dynamic order entry in Q2 and the return to growth we anticipate in H2, it was critical for us to secure the right talent and to ensure the condition for a successful delivery in the future. By the way, 80% of our recruitment were in offshore and nearshore location. We intensified hiring at the junior level to optimize our labor pyramid structure. It is in line with our strategy and demonstrate again Atos' attractiveness is intact. I will now hand over to Diane.

Diane Galbe
Senior Executive Vice President, Atos

Thank you, Nourdine. Good morning, everyone. As mentioned by my colleagues, we are very happy to announce that we have successfully secured our new debt package. As Nourdine said, this is time for action, and we are set to deliver. This is really a key milestone in our transformation, which we are delighted to share with you today. We have received bank commitment covering the full amount and expect to sign the final documentation in the next few days. The success of this financing is a significant leap forward in our transformation plan and also demonstrates strong support from our banking partners. As part of this process, the net debt to OMDA ratio financial covenant has already been reset at 3.75x and will be tested annually.

This financing will provide the group with all the funding it needs during the interim period before the potential split, and will significantly reinforce its liquidity. I would like to stress that in the current macroeconomic context and debt market, this is a very strong achievement. As we are ahead of schedule by a month, and that the operation is likely to be largely oversubscribed, demonstrating again strong support of our plan by our financing partners. On the next slide, I'm going to give you a quick update on the progress made since our CMD with regards to our strategic transformation plan. We have now a clarified governance with a new experienced leadership team that you have in front of you to ensure successful delivery of our strategic roadmap, both on performance and on the envisaged spinoff.

We have just secured our new debt package, as I mentioned, which is a crucial milestone, and we have also earmarked the assets for sale with a total value exceeding the EUR 700 million targets we announced. Execution is progressing according to plan. All carve-out preparation work streams have been launched, and significant progress has been made on the envisaged structuring. In terms of milestones, we are ready to start the employee consultation process as early as September with representative bodies which have already been provided with information. On the operations side, what we are seeing is very positive. Indeed, our talent retention and change management program are deployed and effective with 90% retention of our key people. In fact, attractiveness on the talent market and significant commercial wins, including after the CMD has now been highlighted, demonstrate strong support of the plan by our customers. I will now pass it on to Philippe.

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

Thank you, Diane. Indeed, our Eviden project is to bring together the expertise and the great assets on both digital and BDS in one entity to accelerate our value creation's profitable growth. Each of these two business have strong leadership position that we already shared with you during the CMD. The real advantage and uniqueness of Eviden remain the combination of both to create differentiating offerings which will accelerate our innovation capabilities to gain market share. Combining the capabilities of digital business line in the cloud migration and application services with our leading and undisputed position in managed security services will make us the right and trusted partner for secure cloud. We are positioning ourselves as a unique player, providing incremental value to all the hyperscalers and help our clients to embrace digital transformation and data analytics in a regulatory, secure, and compliant journey.

We are accelerating our development to support enterprises and institutions to build trust in the cloud and to comply with regulation. This is just an example of what together Digital and BDS can bring as a unified company. In addition, together, and as we explained at the CMD, we have all our core offerings relying on unique capabilities with proprietary IP. We are leveraging artificial intelligence, machine learning, and that's at the core of our more managed security services business to reach the highest level of efficiency. We also provide a full service from industry consulting to application development, implementation, and management. The remaining point, that is quite an important one, we are also tackling massive inefficiency in IT server utilization to help our clients implementing their transformational journey and to reach their net zero commitment.

In the past, we were not delivering the best cross-selling performance between digital portfolio and BDS customers. Conversely, BDS has a strong footprint in public sectors and defense, which will accelerate its migration to public cloud in the next years. That creates a tremendous potential for us using digital cloud capabilities. On the other end, customers are now looking to take advantage of high-performance computing on a broader scale. Not only focusing on the institutional affairs and defense, we are seeing more and more momentum in manufacturing sector and also in financial services institutions. We are perfectly positioned to reach clients and industry new requirements.

Let me remind you that our ambition for Eviden is to achieve 7% organic revenue growth on average on a five-year basis and 12% operating margin and circa EUR 700 million free cash flow before interest and tax in 2026. Now I'll give you some color on Eviden's H1 performance. Our revenue grew 2% year-on-year at constant currency. This was a bit of a slowdown compared to 2021. Digital grew thanks to recent acquisitions and positive organic trends in application and cloud that were mitigated by volume reduction with a large customer and also deliberate decrease, as Nourdine mentioned, on value-added resell. BDS suffered from HPC activity cyclicality and supply chain tension, but is looking at a strong recovery based on the very high order entry that we had in H1. Digital security on its side continued to grow slowly above the market.

Looking at H2, we had a very solid book-to-bill in Q2, standing at 145%, and this is a significant improvement compared to the 86% we had in Q1. There's a lot of short-term and medium-sized deals in these book-to-bill figures that will underpin revenue growth as soon as in H2. In terms of margin, we were at 3.5%, sorry, operating margin in H1. We've been impacted by inflation as well as by low volume in HPC. However, we are expecting a market improvement in H2 with HPC recovery and performance improvement actions that the group has launched in H1.

Now I would like to highlight a few high-profile contract wins in H1, reflecting the great commercial momentum that we had and the attractiveness of our services and solution. First, we signed an artificial intelligence and machine learning deal with the major pharmaceutical players. We also partner, and that's quite an important wins, with a major German car manufacturer to develop a connected vehicle software development factory, meaning Industry 4.0, which is a growing area that will gain more momentum in the coming quarters. What is really important that it's not the first win in this area. That's the third one where we are showing our [therapy] capability around digital transformation and artificial intelligence development. We won an important contract with the Nigerian government related to big data infrastructure for edge and AI.

Finally, as you already know, we were the sixth supercomputer out of eight in the EuroHPC program, which is a proof to our technical and technological excellence. This award for pre-exascale excellence. This award for a pre-exascale system that will be hosted by Barcelona Supercomputing Center in Spain. We are really happy that our R&D and our brilliant colleagues of BDS are part of this exciting journey, one that will contribute to strengthen and unlock complex application in key fields such as medical clinical trials and climate research. Moving forward, Eviden will be able to further capitalize on the unique and outstanding offerings of digital and BDS to expand our customer base and win high-profile contracts. Echoing what Nourdine said, we are 100% committed to the strategy project and in improving the group financials and operational performance. With that, I will now turn it to Nourdine for the highlights of Tech Foundations.

Nourdine Bihmane
Co-CEO of Tech Foundations, Atos

Thank you. Thank you, Philippe. As presented at the Capital Markets Day, Tech Foundations project is a complete turnaround by 2026, with most of the actions focused over the next 24 months. The plan follows the proven playbook I mentioned before across all our markets to drive strong and similar transformation that we did in the past. The key element of the playbook are first, a refocus phase where we are going to rationalize our fragmented portfolio and focus on the right offering. A recover phase where we will address our structural cost issues. A rebound phase where we are investing in sales capability and modernizing our portfolio to drive profitable growth. It will enable us to deliver a full revenue stabilization by 2025.

A more than 600 basis points increase in operating margin to reach above 5% margin by 2026, and a strong recovery of our operating cash flow to reach EUR 150 million by 2026 and growing EUR 50 million per year thereafter. We wanted this plan to be prudent and realistic, but clearly our ambition with the team is to do better and faster. Now let's look at Tech Foundations performance in H1. Clearly, the momentum is building up quickly. The newly formed business line in March, combined with our decision to invest in this business, have changed everything for our employees and our customers.

They are both excited about our decision to invest in the business, which is a stark contrast to our prior strategy, where part of the business were going to be disposed, and where the group focus had shifted away from our core infrastructure business. Now the focus is back, and it shows up in the numbers. Revenue decline was limited to -2.6% in H1, which is a huge sequential improvement compared to 2021, which I remind was -11%, including UCC. Even further, the revenue decline would have been only -0.5% if we excluded UCC and the other business that we are executing, almost flat. Our digital workplace and professional services are seeing significant revenue momentum and are growing well. In addition, we have contained the decrease in our infrastructure revenue, and that is the direct consequence of the focus and the energy that our 48,000 people have put back into this business.

Recently, Gartner, for the second time, has positioned Atos as a leader in its Magic Quadrant for data center outsourcing and hybrid infrastructure managed services worldwide. Our book-to-bill is also improving significantly. Customer response to the announcement of our project has been good, and we continue to see significant momentum. Our H2 2022 pipeline is 50% higher than our H1 2022 pipeline six months back. Our focus on top accounts is yielding results. Our top 30 accounts grew at 2.2%. Now we plan to extend the playbook we have deployed over those top 30 accounts to the top 100 accounts over the course of H2. In terms of margin, we were in line with the margin reported during our Capital Markets Day at -1%.

On this slide, you could see four examples of deals that we won in H1. As you can see across those deals, we are helping our customers on all the key CIO priorities, ranging from modernizing infrastructure, innovating on employee experience in a hybrid world, and providing business continuity for mission-critical applications. We have signed a mainframe contract with a major U.S. insurer. A second one where we provide an end-to-end IT managed services for an Asian navigation company. I was telling you earlier that our Envisage transformation plan had been positively received by our customers. Indeed here you could see two examples of contracts that were signed after we announced our plan.

First one, we are going to provide a large infrastructure and transformation contract for public central procurement agency. Second one, we signed a renewal as well as an extension to provide digital workplace services to a global quick service restaurant chain. Those contracts are profitable, cash generating and in line with our midterm objective. In summary, we have made a huge leap in Tech Foundations to stabilize the revenue and are seeing improved commercial performance and pipeline. Going forward, we are now focused on implementing the initiative we kicked off in H1 to drive H2 financial performance and accelerating the broader transformation. I will now hand over to Nathalie to deep dive into our financial performance.

Nathalie Sénéchault
Group CFO, Atos

Thank you, Nourdine. Turning now to the headline figures of our H1. On this slide, you can see the main financial KPIs for the first half of 2022. I'm going to detail them starting with revenue and operating margins, then net income, free cash flow and net debt. Atos recorded revenue of EUR 5.6 billion in H1, up +2.6% year-on-year, including a +3.1% foreign exchange rate impact. Growth at constant currency was -4.6% with an organic decrease of -2.1% and a scope effect of +1.6%. Our organic growth kept improving sequentially at -1.9% in Q2 versus -2.4% in Q1. Philippe and Nourdine presented the performance of Tech Foundations and the division perimeter.

I will now comment on our regional business units starting with revenue. Americas were up +0.4% at constant currency, driven by the contribution of the recent acquisition. Positive trends in digital, in particular with the ramp-up of new contract with a major hospital chain, were offset by a contraction in the impact in UCC businesses, as well as fluctuation in advanced computing. Northern Europe and APAC was stable compared to H1 2021, but turned positive in Q2, driven by a good momentum in digital services, particularly in public sector and defense, as well as cybersecurity and advanced computing. Tech Foundations activities were slightly down, but also improved sequentially between Q1 and Q2. Central Europe was down by 1.7% at constant currency, impacted by the termination of an underperforming contract with a telecom operator and low activity level in HPC and UCC.

Excluding these items, revenue was stable with a marked improvement between Q1 and Q2. Southern Europe decreased by -2.7% due to fluctuations in the HPC business and to the continued wind down of value-added resale. There was a robust momentum in digital and a limited decline in infrastructure. Turning now to operating margin. It was 1.1% at group level, impacted by high cost inflation, particularly on salaries, but also on other cost lines. Continued tension on supply chain.

As Nourdine mentioned, the increase in our headcount, whereas our revenue did not grow, but again, that was key to secure the condition for the growth we expect in H2. Let's face it, probably an element of defocus as we may have been distracted from day-to-day operation at certain time in H1. These impacts pertain to all of our ABUs. I will also mention Central Europe at -1.7%, which on top of that suffered from challenging delivery on some contracts. Looking at H2, we are clearly expecting a strong improvement in margin driven by energetic measures in place to restore a much better level of profitability, as Nourdine will explain later on.

Moving on the next slide on the income statement, the main items to highlight are the following. The impairment of goodwill and other non-current assets, which amounted to EUR 91 million and relating to the assets held for sale. The other lines which decreased from EUR 164 million last year to EUR 64 million this year and included EUR 32 million relating to Russian activities and EUR 25 million of exceptional costs related to our transformation plan. The net financial expenses, which include this year a loss of EUR 109 million related to the disposal of the Worldline shares in June, which I remind you generated EUR 219 million of net profit, contributing to the financing of our transformation plan.

Looking now at our cash flow statement, free cash flow was EUR -555 million on top of usual seasonality, whereby free cash flow is always significantly lower in H1 than in H2. Our free cash flow in H1 this year reflects the low level of OMDA recorded over the period at EUR 369 million compared to EUR 633 million last year. The change in working capital was EUR -383 million. There is a seasonality here too, of course, and this change was mainly driven by a EUR -237 million decrease in customer advance payments. Reorganization, rationalization and integration costs amounted to EUR -130 million. They pertain mainly to cost saving measures launched in H1, which positive impact will unfold in H2.

In addition to the free cash flow of the period, acquisitions amounted to EUR 312 million. This is mainly Cloudreach and the profit from the sale of Worldline shares in June for EUR 219 million. Foreign exchange fluctuation and other items amounted to EUR 97 million, leading to a EUR 1,792 million net debt at the end of June. As mentioned by my colleagues, we have successfully secured our new debt package. Atos has already received commitment from bank for the conversion of the EUR 1.5 billion out of a total of EUR 2.4 billion of existing RCF into an unsecured term loan with a maturity of 18 months with two six-month extension at our option. The EUR 900 million RCF is maintained, maturing in 2025. We expect to sign the final documentation in the next few days. With that, I will hand over to Nourdine for the full year objective.

Nourdine Bihmane
Co-CEO of Tech Foundations, Atos

Thank you, Nathalie. As previously announced, 2022 is going to be a back-end loaded year. There is always a seasonality in our margins and cash flow, but the swing is expected to be even more pronounced this year, as most of the performance improvement measure we launched in H1 will bear fruit in H2. As I said, the whole organization is now laser focused on execution in H2 now that we have a clear strategy in place. Today, with the management team, we are confirming and refining our full year objectives. Revenue. Our objective of -0.5% to 1.5% growth at constant currency is unchanged. Growth should turn positive in H2, and this is underpinned by the good momentum in order entry that we observe at the moment.

Operating margin. We are targeting the lower end of the 3%-5% range. As a direct consequence, free cash flow is now expected at the lower end of EUR -100 million- EUR 200 million range, excluding the additional impact of a transformation plan. Now let's give you more granularity on what it means for H2 in terms of operating margin first. We do expect an uptick in H2, which will be largely driven by the improvement plan launched in H1, focused on three key levers. First, reducing our cost base. As we are unwinding the Sprint program, which is our prior structure organized by industries, our structural costs are going to come down significantly as soon as H2. Since we increased our headcount rapidly in H1, going forward, we'll be more selective in hiring and focus only on specific area like cybersecurity or analytics. We will reduce our use of subcontractors and increase cost discipline, which arguably we have lost a bit on non-personnel costs.

Second, we are tackling our underperforming contracts. Philippe and I and the entire team are focusing on more than 30 red accounts that we are in renegotiating commercially or even exiting in some cases to improve the profitability, thanks to those actions. Third, increases in price in the context of the continued inflation will be key. We have a solid plan in place. We have already increased our prices on some contracts, mostly the time and material, and others are currently under negotiation. This is more a medium-term effort, and you will note that we are not being overly ambitious for H2 on that particular topic.

In addition to this action, the recovery, as Philippe mentioned, in HPC volume, especially for the supply chain challenges, will also have a direct impact on our margin with better fixed cost absorption in H2. This improvement will come on top of the usual seasonal improvement that we have everywhere, every year between H1 and H2. I will now pass it to Nathalie for the free cash flow part.

Nathalie Sénéchault
Group CFO, Atos

Thanks, Nourdine. As a direct consequence of the uptick in operating margin, free cash flow, excluding additional costs of our transformation plan, should recover in H2. This recovery, as you can see on the chart, will be entirely driven by OMDA, while we are prudently assuming only a partial reversal of H1 working capital outflow. This includes circa EUR 150 million of ARI costs, restructuring costs, which were already embedded in our guidance, and as I said, exclude additional impact of our envisaged transformation plan. At this stage, our best estimate for such additional costs would be circa EUR 250 million in 2022, which is consistent with the indication given at the Capital Markets Day of around EUR 150 million additional ARI costs. The final amount will of course depend on the speed of our execution. It also includes the cost of the new financing that we've just secured, around EUR 50 million of exceptional external costs linked to the plan.

Nourdine Bihmane
Co-CEO of Tech Foundations, Atos

Thank you, Nathalie. Few words to conclude. We now have a clear strategy and transformation plan in place. My colleagues from the management team and myself are now fully focused on our customers, our employees, as well as the execution of the plan. We have seen a renewed commercial momentum in Q2 and continue to see even higher momentum on sales into H2, which will support our revenue growth in H2. We are executing at pace on the performance improvement measure, which will drive a significant increase in OM and free cash flow in H2, and give us full confidence in our full-year objective. Last but not least, we are moving forward with our transformation plan, and we have just made a significant progress as its financing is now fully secured. Thank you for your attention, and I think we are now ready to take your question.

Operator

Thank you, management. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then one one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question will come from Amit Harchandani at Citi. Please go ahead.

Amit Harchandani
Head of European Technology Equity Research, Citi

Amit Harchandani from Citi. I've got a couple of questions, if I may. My first question goes towards the financing plan. You've given us a bit of a detail in terms of some of the key parameters, but could you clarify a bit more in terms of the cost of financing, the decision to convert it into an 18-month term loan and not longer? What are some of the puts and takes in terms of how you've gone about thinking about this financing, please? Can you categorically confirm this implies there is no need for any form of equity financing down the road? I have a second question.

Nourdine Bihmane
Co-CEO of Tech Foundations, Atos

Thank you. Yeah.

Diane Galbe
Senior Executive Vice President, Atos

Yeah. Jointly with Nathalie. On the equity financing part, yes, we confirm that it means that we are not planning to do any increase of capital with this newly secured financing. Just to remind the parameter, EUR 1.5 billion in terms of term loan, and EUR 900 million in terms of FCF, and also a bridge to disposal of EUR 500 million. On the cost of financing and the maturity, I will give the floor to Nathalie.

Nathalie Sénéchault
Group CFO, Atos

On the cost of financing, it will be in line with the market rate. The cost will be disclosed later, but again, fully in line with the market. There's no longer term because we are financing the entire year, the entire period pre enough, and there is no need for equity financing at all.

Amit Harchandani
Head of European Technology Equity Research, Citi

Second question if I may please, with regards to the turnaround on broadly at the company and the behavior of customers, we have seen you have talked about some corrections in your backlog. You also talked about customer advance payments coming down. You cited seasonality in the first half. Can you give us a sense for what is the tone of discussions with customers? Because on one hand, we do see the bookings going up, but on the other hand, as you can imagine, customers are looking at what's happening at Atos and making up their minds. Could you give us a sense for the overall tone of discussions with customers, please? And the comment on corrections and the move in advance payments.

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

First, just to start with, Philippe speaking, to start with, the backlog correction that you are mentioning. It's business as usual. We had some bookings that were pertaining, let's say, to previous periods. We decrease our write-off, let's say, following analysis of the older part of our backlog. Nothing to do with our performance that we had in H1. Business as usual in our industry.

Nourdine Bihmane
Co-CEO of Tech Foundations, Atos

On customer reaction, I think it's important also to highlight, I mean, that especially, I would say on the Tech Foundations side, what the customers are feeling now is we are investing in that business. We are not trying to sell it by pieces. We see that we are bringing more cohesiveness to that line of services that we have been pushing over the years, yeah. The customer reaction has been pretty positive across the board with all the thousands of customers we formally have been speaking with. They have been positive about what we are pushing and the fact that we are investing in their business, yeah. Maybe Nathalie for the last point.

Nathalie Sénéchault
Group CFO, Atos

The reduction in the customer advance payment is purely a seasonality effect. Same seasonality decrease. This is exactly the same seasonality decrease that we had in H1 last year that we will capture in H2.

Amit Harchandani
Head of European Technology Equity Research, Citi

Noted. Thank you all.

Operator

Our next question comes from Thomas Courtois from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Thomas Courtois
Head of Digital Marketing, BNP Paribas

Yes. Hello. Good morning. Thank you very much for taking my question. I've got a few actually. So first of all, coming back to the cost of financing of this new debt package, I mean, I understand you just said it's gonna be in line with market rate. But given your debt rating at the moment, I mean, is it reasonable to assume something like high single digit rate on that new debt package? That's the first question. And I've got a few follow-ups later if I may.

Nathalie Sénéchault
Group CFO, Atos

On your first question on cost of financing, again, we will disclose them later, but they are in line with the market conditions.

Thomas Courtois
Head of Digital Marketing, BNP Paribas

Right. Understood. Also, I know in 2023 specifically, you know, we are more and more talking about potential recession, at least in Europe. I was just wondering how you reflect this potential recession in the plan that you outlined at the CMD and more specifically for TFCO.

Nourdine Bihmane
Co-CEO of Tech Foundations, Atos

Yeah. No, thank you. Thank you, Thomas. I think in the context of recession, I will say the TFCO business is a pretty good defensive business, yeah? Because, as you know, it's a multi-year contract. When we start the year, we have more than 80% of the revenue already contracted, then the rest is only about, you know, the turnaround or the in-quarter revenue plus the new logo that we may sign, which will yield the revenue during the year. I would say entering into a recession, even macro potential situation, I will say the Tech Foundations business, book of business give us a more broader and longer visibility versus a cyclical business.

Thomas Courtois
Head of Digital Marketing, BNP Paribas

All right. Just to perhaps, if I can sneak in an initial one. On HPC, I mean, you announced in June that you have been awarded the MareNostrum 5 supercomputer contract. Nothing's been publicly disclosed. It's a EUR 151 million contract in total, which I guess already contributed to the order entry that you had in Q2. Could you help us understand the timing of the revenue recognition for that contract? I mean, do you expect you know, the full EUR 151 million to basically be recorded in revenues in H2 or should it be more spread over time?

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

Yeah. We have multiple wins on the BDS side. It's not only one single contract that is materializing, let's say, the yield assumptions that we took for H2 revenue roadmap. This large deal is gonna have, let's say, multiple period of revenue generation, depending on the milestone of the project. Our H2 roadmap is absolutely not only relying on this deal. We had a very strong book-to-bill and momentum on BDS and HPC in Q2. That's multiple deals with a significant improvement of our book-to-bill ratio in Q2 that will generate the revenue. You know, large deals, especially on the very complex HPC infrastructure or large implementation projects generally also leading between 12-18 months of revenue generation.

Thomas Courtois
Head of Digital Marketing, BNP Paribas

All right. That's it for me. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Laurent Daure from Kepler. Please go ahead.

Laurent Daure
Deputy CEO and Head of Equity Brokerage, Kepler

Yes, thank you. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Also have a couple of questions. My first one is on the U.S. profitability, which used to be much above the roof, thanks to the Syntel business. Does this mean that in the first part of the year, for the first time, you experienced a sharp decline of your offshore business, explaining the drop in profitability in that region?

My second question is back on your full year guidance on the margin side. I mean, you basically need to improve by roughly four points the margin between H1 and H2, which is much more than what has been achieved in the last decade. Does it mean that the seasonality of margin has moved year after year? Because all the action you have presented this morning makes sense, but they might not be visible instantly. Also, the restructuring you booked in the first part of the year are not much higher than what we've seen in past year.

My very final question is on Eviden. If we could have more granularity because the profitability level that you have at the moment is way below what you expect on the long term and below peers. Does it mean that you have a big negative impact from HPC or is it more utilization rate issues or a little bit of everything? Thank you.

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

Yes, thank you for your question. Let me start with the operating margin. First, it's a combination of multiple factors. We mentioned, let's say, the cyclicality of HPC, and you know that HPC, it's a manufacturing business. That means that we have, let's say, a significant amount of fixed costs that have not been covered, let's say, in H1. It's purely due to cyclicality, and we will recover in H2. The other factors that we are facing is really the impact of the inflation of our cost of labor base. And that's, let's say, multiple actions that we took, like, impacting on our time and material business, with new rate cards, the inflation. That's part of the recovery plan that we have in H2. There's no utilization rate issue at all on our Eviden business. The remaining part is really related to, let's say, the supply chain shortage that we faced that prevented us to stick, let's say, to the initial delivery plans that we had on the BDS business side.

Nathalie Sénéchault
Group CFO, Atos

On your second question on seasonality, we are starting actually from a very low H1 at 1.1%. We are targeting 5%-6% in H2, which is the margin we did in H1 last year and below the typical 10% we used to do in H2 in the past. In itself, not that challenging. H2 margin is supported by actions on our cost base, which are already identified and engaged. The whole group is fully mobilized on this H2 margin.

Laurent Daure
Deputy CEO and Head of Equity Brokerage, Kepler

On the U.S. business?

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

Yeah, on the U.S. business. I guess your question is related to the trend that we had, let's say, following the acquisition of Syntel. It's still a profitable business that is running, let's say, with the right revenue growth. As I said, also, during the presentation, we had one effect of a contract, but that has nothing to do with the announcement. It was already, let's say, a scope reduction on the large accounts. But with the short-term signings that we had on the order entry in H1, no doubt that we will recover and grow as per the plan that we committed to during the Capital Markets Day.

Laurent Daure
Deputy CEO and Head of Equity Brokerage, Kepler

Have you seen some structural issues on the market or the gross margin you're making on the offshore? Because when you bought Syntel, it was a 25.6% EBIT business and was about a third of the size of the U.S. It seems like you had an issue between the prices on the wages in India, or can you give us a bit more granularity on what is happening there?

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

No, the only additional information that I can share is that, what we explained is, we knew that we had to anticipate some hirings related to let's say the convictions that we had in our very strong, let's say, book-to-bill and order entry that we realized in Q2. That has generated, let's say, like an unbalanced business model related to incremental costs versus revenue stream that we were having. But that was required also to secure the revenue generation for H2. But there's no specific issue related to our global delivery capability. We are still winning. We are even expanding on very large contract that we have on the U.S. side. There's no specific information related to the business trend in North America.

Nathalie Sénéchault
Group CFO, Atos

If I can comment specifically on Syntel, even though margin was impacted by cost inflation as everywhere, Syntel remains a good performer in America for digital business.

Laurent Daure
Deputy CEO and Head of Equity Brokerage, Kepler

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Gianmarco Conti at Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Gianmarco Conti
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yes, thank you for my questions. So I have a few to ask, and I'll ask two, and then I'll ask some follow-ups. Out of the 16,000 hires, how many were purely offshore, and where exactly? That's my first question. My second question is, where did you see most of the order entry growth? Would it be in digital, hybrid cloud, or decarbonization? Or, you know, is there also a case that you saw some momentum also in Tech Foundations, too? I'll ask some follow-ups after. Thank you.

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

Yeah, I will take the first one and Philippe the second one. On the hiring and the head count in HR, this out of the 16,000, almost 80% of them have been in offshore and nearshore location. Yeah. So it's have been building up capabilities in our remote location. Also, as I mentioned in the presentation, when I say junior capability, a lower end of the pyramid as we are transforming the overall pyramid of the company.

Gianmarco Conti
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

I hear you on that.

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

On the business-

Gianmarco Conti
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Sorry, before we go to the second question. Sorry. What exactly—like, how much is exactly in offshore? Not nearshore, offshore, purely offshore. Is it more like 50%, 60%, a bit more?

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

Like, at, you know, out of the 80%, to be frank, I think it's closer to 70%-75% in offshore.

Gianmarco Conti
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Thanks.

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

On your first question related to the business dynamics or on the offering and business line side. As I said, we are seeing strong momentum on the cybersecurity side, still growing above the market. We are confirming also the trend that we've seen on the digital side with let's say alignment with the plan that we had, that is 7% revenue growth per year. As I highlighted and there, we've been impacted, let's say, in H1 on the BDS revenue mainly related to HPC, and that's part of the recovery plan to maintain, let's say, the objectives that we had for revenue generation in fiscal year 2022.

Gianmarco Conti
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

I see. Thank you. Just two more questions. My third question is, could you perhaps elaborate more on what exactly were the tensions with supply chain? Like maybe, you know, give us a bit more granularity about that. Are these related to specifically, I don't know, orders from hardware for HPC products or are there other moving parts, maybe deteriorating demand environment, maybe because of slow supply chain production for certain customers? I don't know. Any bit more detail here would be great. My fourth question is how much of your operating margin targets are pinned to recovery in HPC? Could you perhaps quantify the impact in margin terms? I'm just trying to understand here whether a continued downturn in HPC-specific allocation, supply chain tensions might impede the material expansion margins and potentially putting guidance at risk. Thank you.

Philippe Oliva
Co-CEO in charge of Eviden, Atos

Yeah. On the HPC side, you know that we are talking about let's say large and complex infrastructure that we are manufacturing. It's obviously more difficult to drive let's say supply chain management processes when you are in a custom-built infrastructure versus let's say volume plays. That's the reason why let's say the anticipation is directly related to the confidence that we have on the pipeline and the win ratio that we can extract. We anticipated let's say another time because our inventory grew in H1 to ensure that we will stick to the commitment that we had in terms of delivery milestone in H2.

This is perfectly under control to commit on the yield that we mentioned and the recovery between H1 and H2. On the margin, nothing more to say than what I already shared at the Capital Markets Day. We are planning, let's say, to operate at mid-single-digit operating margin, let's say in 2022 and with a recovery at the end of the five years plan with high single-digit margin.

Gianmarco Conti
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Right. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Amit Harchandani at Citi. Please go ahead.

Amit Harchandani
Head of European Technology Equity Research, Citi

Thank you for taking my follow-on questions. I've got two more, if I may. With regards to the free cash flow generation profile, if we assume that you do EUR -150 million and the EUR 215 million exceptionals, that's closer to EUR -400 million for total cash outflow of total cash free cash flow this year. We had more than EUR 400 million negative last year. Are you in a position to comment if the free cash flow profile gets better in 2023 and beyond that, how do you think some of these exceptional transformation costs might play out in 2023 and 2024? That would be my first question. My second question goes to the topic of the transformation that you're embarking upon in Tech Foundations, stuff like rationalizing contracts, talking about looking at, you know, some of the changes to structures.

I mean, for those of us who have covered Atos for a long period of time, we have heard this before. Nourdine, given that you've been with the company yourself for a long period of time, what is it that in your view is going to be different this time as you drive the transformation in the infrastructure projects versus what has happened in the past? What are your learnings versus what you have seen in the past that hasn't worked for this one? Thank you.

Nourdine Bihmane
Co-CEO of Tech Foundations, Atos

Again, I will start. Thank you, Amit. Really, an important question. I will start with your second, and then Nathalie will come back on the free cash flow. On the turnaround, Amit, I think the biggest difference that I see today versus yesterday, if I may, is today we finally have the funding to do that transformation. I would say in the past, we were always constrained, and you know us, and you have seen the revenue decline in that business in the past, and we never really addressed it, yeah? I think this time the board and the entire team acknowledge the full size of issue and have decided to address it to make sure that we could rebound, yeah? I think that's the biggest difference.

I think in terms of methodology, I would say with the vertical setup we had before, it was not at all easy to apply the playbook, yeah? Because responsibilities were diffuse in a complex matrix, if I may. Now that we simplify the organization, it's almost a top-down organization, pretty military. This gives us the framework to execute in a much energetic way and stronger way all the usual suspects in those kinds of turnaround. Talking about, you know, productivity, automation, offshore obviously, but red account portfolio. Remember, in that business, the biggest impact is to stabilize the top line. As you have seen in H1, we have been able to start seeing a huge sequential improvement from last year -11% to this year -2.6%.

With that, I have much less stranded cost to address, which impacts indirectly the bottom line, yeah? In that perspective, we feel that now with the team we have the good, I will say, trend in terms of top line to be finally able to improve the margin of Tech Foundations, yeah? That's really my key feedback to you. Nathalie?

Diane Galbe
Senior Executive Vice President, Atos

Amit Harchandani, on your first question on the 2023 free cash flow. As we mentioned during the Capital Markets Day, the majority of the transformation cost will come in 2022 and 2023. As we already mentioned, we have already identified and launched strong actions on operating margin, which will trigger benefit already in H2 2022 and also on H1 and the full year 2023 going forward.

Amit Harchandani
Head of European Technology Equity Research, Citi

That's-

Diane Galbe
Senior Executive Vice President, Atos

Just, Amit Harchandani, I could seize the opportunity of your second batch of question to come back to your first one. You didn't answer on the duration for the financing. The RCF is 18 months plus two extensions of six months.

Amit Harchandani
Head of European Technology Equity Research, Citi

Yes, please. Thank you for that clarification. Actually on the financing bit then, after 18 months, are there any terms around which the renewals would be carried out? Do you need to be at a certain level of leverage? Do you need to be at a certain level of profitability, or is it a straightforward renewal after 18 months?

Diane Galbe
Senior Executive Vice President, Atos

We have a covenant which is throughout the period of 3.75x OMDA the ratio. This is constant over the period. No specific, yeah.

Amit Harchandani
Head of European Technology Equity Research, Citi

Got it. Finally, if I may, since I have your attention, you've got the EUR 700 million, I believe that's due to come from assets held for sale. If you're not able to generate that. Again, I'm not sure where you are in terms of progress on that. If you're unable to generate that, do you need to then look at debt financing, additional debt financing to finance the overall transformation plan?

Diane Galbe
Senior Executive Vice President, Atos

No. First of all, on the EUR 700 million disposal program, we already executed EUR 220 million. For the rest of the program, we are very confident because we changed our strategy in identification of these assets which are already earmarked and exceeding far above the amount of EUR 700 million. To make sure that we have the right, I would say, choices in terms of value creation and timing, on the other end. Other point on the topic is the fact that these assets are mostly in Eviden side of the business, non-core as we previously announced. We already received a lot of marks of interest, quantitative ones, on the assets that we have earmarked. Very confident on earnings, disposals, and announcements on the topic following the already 220 disposals that we announced.

Nourdine Bihmane
Co-CEO of Tech Foundations, Atos

Thank you, Amit. Thank you. I think it's now time to close. I just wanted to thank you again on behalf of the entire team and looking forward to speaking with you soon. Bye.

Operator

Thank you so much. This does conclude today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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