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Earnings Call: Q3 2024

Oct 15, 2024

Operator

[Foreign Language]

Enrique Martinez
CEO, Fnac Darty

... We're part of a unifying and highly rewarding movement. Returning to our performance to the end of September, it's in line with the dynamic results we've posted since the beginning of the year. Varied offerings, product innovation, and our high value added services. These services continue to win over our customers and are making a significant contribution to our growth. We're approaching the closing of the offer to acquire Unieuro. We are convinced of the value creation that this unique strategic opportunity will bring to our group and stakeholders. I believe in the success of this transaction, which will enable us to confirm our position as European leader in specialized distribution. Over to Jean-Brieuc Le Tiné .

Jean-Brieuc Le Tinier
CFO, Fnac Darty

Thank you. As Enrique has already mentioned, we're very satisfied with our performance this quarter, thanks in particular to the high single digit growth of our services business. Over the first nine months, we posted sales growth of 1% on a reported basis, and virtually unchanged on a like-for-like basis, with market share gains in most of our categories. In the third quarter, the group posted sales of EUR 1.8 billion, up 0.3% on a reported basis, and down slightly by 0.8% on a like-for-like basis. The gross margin rate, excluding the dilutive impact of the franchise and changes in the scope of consolidation, rose by 50 basis points over the first nine months of the year, and by more than 100 basis points in Q3.

Now let's take a closer look at sales performance by channel, region, and product category over the period. First, by channel, the proportion of online sales remains high at 21%. The complementary nature of our shops and our digital platforms has once again been demonstrated, with click and collect accounting for more than half of online sales at the end of September. Now, by geography, the France-Switzerland region was virtually stable over the first nine months on an LFL basis. Once again, the group outperformed the French market, which remained in negative territory at the end of August, -2%, while our growth rate was virtually stable at the end of September, -0.4%.

I'd remind you that the scope effect corresponds mainly to the closure of three Manor shop-in-shops in non-French speaking Switzerland, which took place in the first half of 2024. Let's turn now to the Iberian Peninsula. Sales posted an excellent performance of 5.7% in the third quarter, rising, giving growth of one point eight percent in the first nine months of the year. A better macroeconomic situation in the region has supported consumption. In Portugal, the integration of MediaMarkt, consolidated from the first of October 2023, is continuing, and today the 10 shops have generated sales of around EUR 75 million . Lastly, the Belgium-Luxembourg region reported virtually stable LFL sales over the first nine months. Sales are benefiting, in particular from sustained growth in services.

Let's look at developments by category. Let's start with publishing products. Books performed very well, buoyed by the craze for new reading trends. This performance did not make up for the sharp decline in gaming, still impacted by a particularly high basis of comparison in 2023, but with a much lower gross margin. Services continue to grow in all regions, with the ongoing rollout of our subscription-based offers, and in particular, the rollout of Darty Max and Fnac Vie Digitale. Technical products grew slightly over nine months. In Q3, telephony sales slowed due to new product launches that got off to a more gradual start than last year. Computers benefited from the continuation of the renewal cycle, and innovations begun in the second quarter. Sales of our small appliances are up.

The excellent momentum in small electrical appliances continues, driven by numerous technical innovations and new product launches in the cooking, beauty, and floor care sectors. Sales of large electrical appliances, on the other hand, remained down. Last but not least, diversifications performed well, with solid growth in the games and stationery sectors since the beginning of the year. Finally, a word on gross margin trends. It's important to note that apart from the negative impact of the dilutive technical effect linked to the franchise and changes in the scope of consolidation, the gross margin rate is up by more than 100 basis points in Q3 2024 compared with 2023. This increase is mainly due to growth in services and a favorable product mix, confirming the relevance of the Everyday plan.

The group benefited in particular from strong momentum in services, small electrical appliances, and books. Overall, for the first nine months of the year, the group posted gross margin growth of plus 50 basis points, excluding the dilutive effect of franchising and changes in the scope of the consolidation. Enrique,

Enrique Martinez
CEO, Fnac Darty

on slide four, I would like to come back to the strategic project of Unieuro acquisition. The bid is open until October 2025, and we are very determined and confident in our ability to make a success of it. Let me remind you that the offer price of around EUR 12 per share represents a 42% premium over Unieuro spot price on July 15, 2024. The premium is also 20% of the average of analyst targets prior to the announcement.

This valuation was deemed fair from a financial point of view by the two independent financial experts appointed by Unieuro's board of directors. Finally, we've lowered the minimum threshold for acceptance of the bid to 66.67% of Unieuro's capital. This reflects our determination to successfully implement the tender offer. This project is a structuring one for our group for the years to come, and will enable us to play a key role in the consolidation of the European market. With Unieuro, we would form a group of sales of over EUR 10 billion , 30,000 employees in more than 1,500 stores. It would also be a value-creating transaction for all stakeholders, and we expect to achieve over EUR 20 million in full year synergies from the massification of purchasing and on brands.

Finally, this operation will preserve our financial flexibility to pursue our capital allocation policy. In conclusion, we approach the end of the year with confidence, while remaining focused and rigorous financial management. We are seeing the first encouraging signs on the macroeconomic front, with inflation falling and interest rates beginning to come down. These factors, combined with the remarkable performance of our services business, have led us to raise our guidance for full year operating profit. We now expect recurring operating income for 2024 to exceed EUR 180 million, compared with at least EUR 171 million previously. We're maintaining our target of a cumulative operating cash flow of around EUR 500 million. And over the 2021-2024 period, with EUR 180 million in 2024.

Finally, we're very focused on the success of the major, major end of year sales event, Fnac's seventieth anniversary, the fiftieth anniversary of Darty's Contrat de Confiance, Black Friday, and Christmas. We approach the end of this year with determination, convinced that the group has solid assets to create sustainable value. Thank you for your attention. Jean-Brieuc Le Tinier and I are now available to answer your questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, please press star on your phone. First question comes from Clément Genelot from Bryan, Garnier & Co. You have the floor.

Clément Genelot
Analyst, Bryan, Garnier & Co

Good evening. I have two questions on the gross margin to start with. Is the increase, this high increase, is also due to ticketing? As we know, that is, has an accretive effect. And as far as the guidance, did you factor in the fact that consumption will be low in France, the next season, with all the political talk of higher taxes? Thank you.

Enrique Martinez
CEO, Fnac Darty

On the gross margin, it's not related to ticketing effects, because Olympic game tickets have been sold well before Q3, so no impact there. Ticketing is doing better in Q3 than last year, but impact on the gross margin is very marginal. So it's very, very small, insignificant part of the hundred basis points that we were talking about. The origin of these hundred basis points is, first of all, services, particularly subscriptions, and then the product mix with more small appliances, books, et cetera. Whereas gaming is not doing as well, but its gross margin and impact on the company figures is lower. Product cycles and innovation. And? The test consumption scenario that we've integrated for the next few months. Consumer trust has been low recently, and those are long-term trends, so we're not anticipating a short-term significant impact on consumption.

Clément Genelot
Analyst, Bryan, Garnier & Co

Thank you very much.

Enrique Martinez
CEO, Fnac Darty

... Next question from Christian Devismes, from the CIC. The floor is yours.

Christian Devismes
Analyst, CIC

Good afternoon. Two questions. First, ticketing during summertime. I always thought that if competition was not allowed to do this sort of transaction, that was probably to not to disrupt ticketing. So my question is: nowadays, fourteen months after the official announcement, do you have any news about competition on this transaction? Second question, this relates to government projects to raise taxes on sales between 7% and 10%. Should we take that on board, or should we take anything else on board to take into account the impact on your profits in the coming couple of years?

Enrique Martinez
CEO, Fnac Darty

Let me take the second point first. Unfortunately, no. We don't have deficit companies in France, so we cannot use them.

So we'll get the full tax raise for the full-blown tax raise. There's no technical components that would allow us to winnow this down. Of course, we don't know what the final picture is going to be.

Christian Devismes
Analyst, CIC

Yes, obviously.

Enrique Martinez
CEO, Fnac Darty

Ticketing, we keep waiting both on Europe and Switzerland. We are about to finalize this transaction. We don't have the components to do anything about this yet. Thank you.

Operator

Next question is from Emmanuel Vigneron, HSBC. You have the floor.

Emmanuel Vigneron
Analyst, HSBC

Yes, good evening. I'd like to go back to the gross margin. Could you give us any indications on the trends that we could expect in Q4? My second question would be as follows: could you give us more detail about Nature & Découvertes and how well it performed? Thank you.

Jean-Brieuc Le Tinier
CFO, Fnac Darty

We've seen that services had a very favorable impact on the gross margin. That's been true since the beginning of the year in Q1, and even more so in Q3. We expect a better looking gross margin. The beauty of services is that it's a very resilient business. It's the whole principle of the strategy that we've put in place and how it's been rolled out over time, so we feel that gross margin in Q4 will look better than last year. We can't give you more details at this stage, but we're in the right territory.

Emmanuel Vigneron
Analyst, HSBC

Okay.

Jean-Brieuc Le Tinier
CFO, Fnac Darty

As far as Nature & Découvertes, it's lIving its life, but the future of Nature & Découvertes will play out in Q4, because that's where there's a strong acceleration of sales, and we've prepared for that season with the team, so we'll see at the end of the year. We have to wait for the end of Q4 to give you a real, you know, visibility over Nature & Découvertes and its performance. Thank you.

Operator

Let me remind you that if you want to ask a question, you should push down on the star one button of your phone. We have another question now from Alexandre Pluguet from Kepler. The floor is yours.

Alexandre Plagué
Analyst, Kepler

Good evening. Two small questions. On the revising of the guidance, could you explain what happened? Why was it better? Was it because Spain or some other region performed better? Is that the reason for this improvement? Second question, Weavenn, could we have an update on this? Laurent Parisot and so on, are they up to your expectations, or is there any new component, new element you could tell us about?

Enrique Martinez
CEO, Fnac Darty

Let's start with Weavenn. It's performing quite well. It's exactly what we expected. Figures now, you see, it's a beginning business, so it's still very small, but it is in line with what we expected.

It's doing well. So we're happy with this. We will have more information on the full year results. On guidance, the revision of guidance, as we said before, it's about the same as last year. Consumption is a little better, inflation is down, and also we see a return to a more normal background context. We have strong cost control. Inflation is going down, so we have more impact. And then another point is the gross margin, which is pulled by services. Currently, we're looking at the services model, which is beginning to be more profitable. So this depends less on the current economic moment. It depends more on our products. But we can tell you more about this at the end of the year.

Operator

...Next question is from Marie Faure of Bernstein. You have the floor.

Good evening. I have a question about the gross margin. Just wanted to know, you know, in Q1, you had seen the dilutive effect of franchise by twenty basis points. Should we expect something similar for the rest of the year? Yes, that would be the order of magnitude. It varies a bit because, depends on the, you know, how much has been stored in the, in the franchises. But yes, you know, around twenty, twenty-five basis points, there's no reason for it to, for the figure to be significantly different. And that's essentially from that, the two- from the reason why the guidance was revised, or, are there any other reasons?

Enrique Martinez
CEO, Fnac Darty

As Alexandre has said, the service model is becoming increasingly profitable, and the inflationary environment of September, 1.2%, which is much easier for us to control. We're used to those kinds of environments, when last year we had inflation about 4%-5%. It's easier for us to control, you know, both the cost and gross margin, particularly in light of the fact that our service is increasingly important. Thank you.

Operator

Let me remind you that if you want to ask a question, you should push the star one button on your phone. Gentlemen, we have no more questions, so you, let me give you the floor back.

Enrique Martinez
CEO, Fnac Darty

Well, thank you very much for your time, and hopefully we'll talk to you soon.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the phone conference call today. Thank you for being in, and you can now-

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