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Earnings Call: Q1 2025

Apr 29, 2025

Stéphanie Pardo
CFO, Planisware

Good morning, and thank you for attending our call on Q1 2025 revenue of Planisware. This is Loïc Sautour speaking, and as usual, I will share this presentation with Stéphanie Pardo, our CFO. I would like to start with the key highlights of this publication. First, Q1 revenue reached EUR 47.5 million. It represents a robust 16% year-on-year growth and 14.3% in constant currency. This growth is totally within the range of our expectation for Q1 and aligns with our planned trajectory for the year, aiming toward our mid to high-teens growth rate objective for 2025. Our revenue growth continues to be driven by the success of our SaaS operation. This includes both our existing clients, whom we support closely through our evolutive support practice, and new clients who are joining us.

Both our clients and prospects are expressing a greater need for advanced solutions to manage their portfolio of strategic projects. More than ever, they seek better visibility and agility to navigate and adapt their operations, supply chain, and strategic priorities in this particularly uncertain and challenging environment for them. In this context, although we are not directly impacted by tariffs, we are still observing elongated customers' decision-making processes. We continue to leverage our close connection with our existing customers while also initiating new commercial relationships. At this time of the year, and given the current environment, we acknowledge a high level of uncertainties that may drive further elongation of sales cycles and delays in the start of new contracts. However, we remain confident in confirming our mid to high-teens revenue growth objective for the year, along with our profitability and cash conversion targets.

On the next slide, let me present some of our key recent achievements. First, I'm happy to announce the opening of two new offices, the first in Brussels and the second in Seoul. Planisware has been present in the Benelux region for several years, with projects for customers such as Galapagos, KLM, or UCB, and now consolidating its position in the strategic fast-growing market. In particular, the group has recorded a significant increase in its business, with sales doubling over the last four years. The goal with this new location is to be close to our customers and leverage a dynamic market with almost 1,200 target companies, nearly half of which have sales in excess of EUR 1 billion, particularly in high-tech sectors such as manufacturing, with chemicals, agri-food, and industrial equipment, as well as retail and financial services.

Against this backdrop, Planisware's new sites transcend its proximity to customers and its understanding of local issues. Alongside enhanced visibility, Planisware will be able to accelerate the signing of new logos and sustain the group's growth in the region. As for South Korea, its advanced economy, strategic industry alignment, and openness to digital transformation make it an ideal market for Planisware growth in Asia. With a GDP exceeding $1.7 trillion and strong sectors like semiconductors, automotive, and electronics, South Korea offers a favorable environment for Planisware projects and portfolio management solutions. The presence of multinational clients using Planisware in their Korean subsidiaries and the proximity to Japan further enhance business prospects. Planisware's regional experience, robust growth in Asia-Pacific, and commitment to local expertise provide a solid foundation for success in South Korea.

Point number two is about our annual user conference, Exchange, that we hold in each of our key geographies. This event is very well-named as it truly embodies the spirit of Exchange, a platform for sharing knowledge, experiences, and innovation. Every year, we gather the key project portfolio stakeholders from our clients to foster a collaborative environment. This is not just an opportunity for us to connect with our customers, but it's also for our customers to connect with each other. Our clients, our best ambassadors, spreading the word of mouth and sharing their incredible success stories. This year, the North American 2025 edition took place in San Francisco at the end of March. It was a tremendous success, with incredible attendance of 216 of our clients we presented.

The energy, the enthusiasm was so high as we came together to share best practices, celebrate successes, and discuss emerging market trends. Once again, this year's sessions provided a hands-on experience allowing our clients to see firsthand the innovative solutions that we are developing to meet their needs. One of the highlights of the conference was the live demos showcasing our latest features, and in particular, of our AI-powered unified platform that I presented to you in February, and that generated a lot of interest. As a quick reminder, this new version of our platform, which is set to shape the future of strategic portfolio management. By staying at the forefront of innovation, we aim to deliver a next-generation experience with the latest version of our platform, keeping us one step ahead of the competition.

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

Now, looking ahead, we believe that within the next five years, up to 80% of our users will interact with applications like Planisware through voice or chat. To prepare for this revolution, we have developed a semantic metadata model. This model abstracts and modifies physical database objects into logical dimensions, making our platform future-proof for increased AI usage. This deployment of AI agents, which rely on this semantic model, will enhance our platform performance and create a significant barrier to entry for competitors in our business. Now, before letting Stéphanie tell the revenue performance that we have, I would like to illustrate the commercial dynamic of Q1 with a few notable wins.

Now, despite sales cycles remaining longer than a year before, clients and prospects express greater needs for advanced solutions to manage their portfolio of strategic projects and gain better visibility and agility to navigate in the current uncertain environment. Planisware continues to support its existing customers in adapting and reorganizing themselves to a rapidly changing environment while maintaining or enhancing their operational efficiency. As a result, key clients such as Philips or Boston Scientific expanded their usage of Planisware solutions and support practices. This was particularly the case in the automotive industry, with clients such as Fox Factory in the U.S. in PD&I, Continental in Germany, or Forvia in France. Now, Forvia is a typical scope extension following an acquisition made by our client. After the merger between Faurecia and Hella, Hella wondered whether to stay with SAP PPM or switch to Planisware.

They carried out a comparative study of the two solutions, and Planisware's advanced and spot-on functionalities made the difference. The relevance of Planisware's multi-specialist approach has been demonstrated in many sectors, from retail in Australia with Coles, or the pharmaceutical industry in Japan with Takeda, to automotive in the U. S. and Sweden with Dana and HADV Group, which now uses Orchestra to manage its product development portfolio. Dana is emblematic of the new logo that came much later than initially planned. This global leader in drivetrain and e-propulsion systems has selected Planisware Enterprise as its program-wide PPM solution.

At a time when automotive suppliers are under pressure to accelerate innovation and improve efficiency, Planisware is a valuable partner in driving their successes by ensuring consistency and visibility and serves as the backbone for embedding global launch processes and centralized program tracking, providing a unified platform to streamline communication and foster collaboration. Dana also implements Planisware to manage cost build-up and business case analysis, enabling faster, more informed strategic decision-making. Now, Stéphanie, let's take a deeper dive into our revenue-building blocks.

Stéphanie Pardo
CFO, Planisware

Thank you, Loïc, and good morning to all. I will start my presentation with revenue evolution by revenue stream for the fourth quarter. As usual, in order to reflect the underlying performance of the company independently from exchange rate fluctuations, I will focus my comments on revenue evolution in constant currencies, which means applying Q1 2024 exchange rate to Q1 2025 figures. FX effect was fully related to the U.S. dollar year-on-year appreciation versus Europe. As usual, the key driver of the revenue performance was our SaaS model, which represented 82% of the total revenue and grew by almost EUR 6 million or plus 18%, fueled by new customer wins as well as continued expansion with our large install base.

Our SaaS model is made of SaaS and hosting revenue up by 18.5%, support activities, which grew together by 16.7%, including a healthy plus 20% in evolutive support, particularly important in these times where our clients further rely on Planisware to adapt fast to the upcoming context. Still in the recurring part of the revenue profile, maintenance grew by 4.4% in Q1, a bit faster than its usual run rate thanks to the licenses sold in 2024. I now move to the non-recurring part of the revenue, which represented in Q1 8% of the total revenue and declined by -4.5% or EUR 0.2 million. All the decline came for perpetual licenses, which faced a high base effect. As you may remember, we had a strong demand early in 2024 from customers with specific compromise needs, in particular in the defense sector.

Oppositely, the plus 4.4% revenue growth in implementation translates to dynamic activity in Q1 2025, led by the implementation of several large SaaS contracts signed end of 2024. I move to the next slide. As usual, we would like to present how this revenue performance translates to the evolution of revenue mix over more and more recurrence. In Q1, recurring revenue made of SaaS operations and maintenance of perpetual licenses represented 92% of the total revenue, which is 150 basis points higher than from the SaaS value last year. The SaaS model itself represents 82% of total revenue, while it was 80% in 2023. Thanks for your attention, and I'll let Loïc to conclude.

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

Thank you, Stéphanie. Before concluding, though, I would like to share with you why we consider that Planisware Group is fully geared to cope with any potential economic slowdown. First and foremost, we operate in a double-digit growing market fueled by powerful megatrends: digitization, innovation, automation, and energy transition. These trends are driving significant long-term growth and providing us with numerous business expansion opportunities. The solutions proposed by Planisware are mission-critical for our clients even more in times of downturn. They provide the necessary visibility and agility, enabling the organizations to adapt and reorganize themselves to fast-changing environments and to preserve or improve operational efficiencies. In addition, we entertain long-term relationships with our clients. These kinds of partnerships are the backbone of our business, built on trust and mutual benefits, ensuring sustained successes for all parties involved.

This translates in a recurring revenue profile that is largely diversified in terms of geography and industry exposure, ensuring that our revenue is extremely resilient, especially in challenging times. We deliver a high profitability and cash generation, which translated over the year in a particularly strong balance sheet. This financial strength is a testament to our prudent financial management and allows us to reinvest in our business, drive innovation, and deliver value to our stakeholders. At the end, it provides us with the flexibility to navigate economic uncertainties and face the new opportunities as they arise. Of course, I will not be comprehensive here without mentioning our talented, engaged, and loyal employee base, which is our greatest asset. Their dedication and expertise drive our success and enable us to achieve our strategic goals. I am so thankful to have the privilege to work with such an outstanding team every day.

All in all, we remain guided by a long-term vision and sustainable investment policy. This ensures that we are not only focused on immediate gain but also on creating long-term value for all of our stakeholders. As mentioned during the introduction, while acknowledging a high level of uncertainties that may drive further elongation of sales cycles and delays in the start of new contracts, we consider our high commercial pipeline, and we remain confident, and we so confirm all of our objectives for 2025: a mid to high-teens revenue growth, circa 35% adjusted EBITDA margin, and circa 80% cash conversion rate. This concludes our presentation. Thank you for your attention. We are now ready to answer your questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask the questions, kindly unmute your line and state your name and company you are calling from. We will take one question at a time. Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please go ahead. State your name and company name. Your line is open.

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Hello. Can you hear me?

Operator

Yes, please go ahead.

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Hello. This is Ines from BNP Paribas. Thank you, Loïc and Stéphanie, for this update. I just have a quick question. Given the moderate acceleration in H2 to reach the guidance, what would be needed to underwrite H2 acceleration? Would it be more an improvement in deal win rates or just a mixed effect of the SaaS in the revenue mix? Thank you.

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

For H2?

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Yes.

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

Yeah. For H2, we have more favorable comps that favor an acceleration.

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Do you have any sense, any color to give us on, in this type of environment, how have Q1 deal win rates trended versus Q4? Do you know anything starting in April as it will not be reflected in Q1?

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

No. As we stated, we really continue to have a very, very strong pipeline, very dynamic. The need for the solution that we provide in some uncertain times is here more than ever. We help our customers to reposition themselves strategically to a changing world and a changing environment, to take the right strategic decision to respond to some of those changes. It continues to be very, very dynamic for us. Sometimes there are a few delays that are coming from some announcements as people reposition themselves, but it is not the major impact for us.

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. So nothing to notice starting in April versus Q1 so far in the deal win rates, if I understand well?

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

Yeah, that's correct. That's correct. As I said, maybe a few days of delays as people scramble to understand some of how the situation was evolving. At the end of the day, they get back to work, and they need the right solution to reposition themselves strategically, and we provide this solution.

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay. Thank you, Loïc.

Operator

Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, your line is open. Kindly state your name and company name.

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Can you hear me?

Operator

Yes, please go ahead.

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Hi. It's Felix Chang from Bank of America. If I think about the guidance you have for the full year, what assumptions do you have on the underlying macro assumptions on both the high end and the low end of your guidance on top line? What are your thoughts into it? Maybe on the high end, is it a more benign macro situation that you have in mind or just internally driven by the pipeline conversion rate or the sales cycle, whether it's more elongated or shortened? Thank you.

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

Yes, absolutely. If you look at the building block of our top line, a lot of this top line comes from recurrence. With the net retention rate that we had, take the one from 2024, 121%, a very low churn rate that we have, 2.2% in 2024, our top line growth takes that in. Now, you're right that the range that we have given is primarily driven essentially by new logos. The changes come from the timing. A new logo sooner has a direct impact to this variation of the growth of the top line growth as opposed to a new logo later in the year, which is why we have such a wide range because that factors in some of the uncertainties that we see in the decision cycle, primarily for new logos, which is just a portion of our top line growth.

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Very clear. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you for the questions. All lines are open. If you'd like to ask questions, please state your name and company name.

Fernando Chico Pardo
Director, Citi

Loïc, can you hear me?

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

Yes, we're perfect.

Fernando Chico Pardo
Director, Citi

Sorry. Pardo here from Citi. Thanks for taking my questions. Just a quick one on some of the trends you're seeing by vertical, potentially. You called out some macro elongation of sales cycles. Where are you kind of seeing that appear more than others? Last quarter, you called out defense as being a potential area of focus. Is there any upside that you started to see come through? Appreciate there's a bit of a time lag of when the sales cycles come through.

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

Yeah. I wouldn't say specifically that there is an industry where we see the elongation more than it's more like across the board that we see the elongation of sales cycle. The need to justify spending is definitely here, but it's really across the board.

Fernando Chico Pardo
Director, Citi

Thanks. On defense?

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

On defense, I mean, clearly, defense is extremely active at the moment. Our commercial pipeline is very, very active, both on new logos as well as existing clients that we have. We have several clients that operate in the defense industry, and they expand their usage of Planisware. Clearly, their market is expanding. They need to deliver more projects. They need to deliver more projects faster. They need to position their resources on those projects properly. There is a very large increase of Planisware usage there that translates to some good expansion for us in this industry.

Operator

Thank you for the questions. If you'd like to ask a question, you may go ahead. State your name and company name.

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Right. It's Felix from Bank of America again, assuming that, well, that's just one more question I want to squeeze in. Obviously, you talk about, depending on the timing, on winning new logos, but given the current elongated sales cycle and the current macro environment, are you doing anything different maybe to get the new logos, either in the form of landing a bit smaller and looking at expanding later or any other kind of different ways to go to market that you are looking at?

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

Yeah. It has always been the case for us that we don't necessarily seek to land big from the get-go. Now, don't get me wrong. If it is the case, we are pleased to see that. It is true that once our customers start using Planisware, they clearly get the value. They clearly get the value. It's very sticky. It is true that we start with some new logos, sometimes quite small, because we know that by providing the right solution, by bringing to our customers the specialist approach that we have, we know how to solve the issues that they are currently facing. We know that this is expanding. That is why a lot of our top line growth comes from revenue expansion because we don't necessarily want to land big. We definitely enter the customers this way.

It's not necessarily something new to us, but clearly, it is a direction that it is taking.

Felix Chang
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it.

Operator

Thank you for the question. As a reminder, to ask questions, you may just go ahead and state your name and company name. We appear to have no questions at this time. I'll hand it back to Planisware for closing.

Loïc Sautour
CEO, Planisware

Thank you very much for attending this call and for your attention. Please feel free to reach out to Bruno Decourt if you have any additional questions. We will be very happy to answer them. Thank you.

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