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Earnings Call: Q3 2020

Oct 23, 2020

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Q3 2020 Financial Results Conference of Groupe Renault. I now hand over to Mr. Thierry Huon. Sir, please go ahead.

Thierry Huon
VP of Investor Relations, Renault

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Renault third quarter 2020 conference call, broadcast live and available in a replay version on our website. First, I would like to apologize for this unusual early time for this call, but as you know, Daimler is reporting at 8:00 A.M. this morning. Thus, we will try to make it short and to have finished by 8:00 A.M. As usual, the presentation file and press release for this call are all available on our finance section of our website. I would like to point out the disclaimer on slide two of this pack regarding the information contained within this document, and in particular, about forward-looking statements. I invite all participants to read this. We have two speakers this morning, Clotilde Delbos, Deputy CEO and CFO, and Denis Le Vot, EVP, Regions, Sales and Marketing.

The presentation will last about 10 minutes and will be followed by the Q&A session. If we don't have the time to take everyone's question in this session, the IR team will be around to take your calls later. Clotilde, the floor is yours.

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Thank you, Thierry, and good morning, everybody. Before commenting on the revenues, I want to share with you the main takeaways for this quarter. We saw a strong recovery in volume in Europe after the disastrous impact of the lockdown in Q2. Of course, this improvement has been helped by the governmental incentives put in place in different European countries. Conversely, apart from Eurasia, demand in emerging markets continued to decline materially. We also faced a strongly adverse currency headwind in almost all the emerging markets. Where are we standing at the end of Q3? We have a strong order book and low inventories. We are pleased by the market's response to our new hybrid technology that is helpful for meeting the CAFE regulation this year and onwards.

Thanks to our strong order book, we should have had a good visibility for Q4 and the beginning of next year, but the new wave of the pandemic in Europe has reduced this visibility significantly and obliges me to keep some cautiousness about what we can say regarding our perspective. That said, and even though it is not an earning call, I would like to confirm that our fixed cost reduction plan is well on track, and from today's perspective, we reckon a positive automotive free cash flow for H2. Of course, in case of a new lockdown, this would be quite different. Before I hand over to Denis for a short overview of our commercial performance in the quarter, I would like to comment on our liquidity situation.

At the end of the quarter, we had EUR 15.2 billion of liquidity reserves, when it was EUR 16.8 billion at the end of H1. This consumption stemmed from the usual working capital seasonality and from some debt reimbursements. As the EUR 5 billion credit facility benefiting from the French state guarantee would disappear at the end of the year if not drawn down, we have partly used it to protect our other credit lines and to reinforce our safety net at competitive conditions. To date, we have drawn down EUR 3 billion of it. I will now turn over to Denis.

Denis Le Vot
EVP of Regions, Sales and Marketing, Renault

Thank you, Clotilde. Hello, everyone. Starting with the global automotive results, markets are getting better in Q3, with a worldwide level at minus 4% versus 2019, and even an isolated September at plus 1%. The region mix is favorable to Renault. As you know, our main market, Europe, is at minus 5% for Q3 and even plus 3% for September. Second main market, Eurasia, is at plus 22% for Q3, and a promising September at plus 26%. Groupe Renault volume for Q3 is minus 6%, with the September at plus 1% at par with industry level. We overperformed in Europe in Q3 with a market share at 10.3%, 0.2 point higher than 2019. We did struggle to supply the booming demand in Eurasia, particularly in Turkey, but September is now okay. As for America, we decided to protect our margins with a market share below 2019 by selecting profitable channels.

As you can see on the bottom of the chart, the orders in Europe are still high, with a trend of +6% versus 2019. Orders portfolio have even grown during the Q3. This secures one month additional coverage versus September 2019. As a consequence, with a portfolio 60% higher than last year, we have a good industrial visibility for Q4. The 2021 entry point will highly depend on the COVID pandemic situation. As announced, we are continuing our strict pricing policy, with visible impact on our revenue bridge. We achieved positive impact of 5.5% in the quarter. This is pushed by new model value converted in price in the market, mainly Clio, Captur, and also new ZOE. Channel mix management, marketing expenses discipline, and FX compensation.

This pricing versus volume policy has an immediate consequence on the inventory level at 470,000 units, dealer plus OEM, which is 22% lower than 2019, and even 14% versus H1 result. This level reduces the coverage at 65 days, 10 days lower than Q3 2019.

Let's have a look on electrified sales performances. Electric vehicle are now reaching more than 10,000 registrations a month, with Renault and ZOE keeping their leading position in Europe. September E-TECH orders are now 22% of the mix of our three models, and LPG solution on Dacia range achieves more than 25% of the order. Q4 will highly depend on COVID evolution. Still, our distribution inventory, our pricing policy, and our portfolio order secure favorable condition for Q4. Our commercial activity will be supported by new launches on main market in Q4. For electric vehicle, Groupe Renault will enlarge its leadership position and will secure CAFE compliance with two important launches, Twingo Electric as high-end urban electric vehicle, and Dacia Spring Electric as the most affordable electric vehicle in Europe. On top of this, Dacia will launch the renewal of its iconic Sandero model by the end of the year.

Thank you, and I'll pass the call back to Clotilde.

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Thanks, Denis. I will start this part of the presentation with the change in third quarter revenues compared to last year on slide 11. As you can see, Group revenues decreased 8.2% to EUR 10.4 billion in the quarter. At constant exchange rates and perimeter, the decrease would have been 3.2%. The contribution from the automotive division, excluding After Sales, decreased 7.4% to EUR 8.9 billion. After Sales contribution was down 16.2% at EUR 0.7 billion in the quarter, reflecting the strong negative impact of the ruble, despite the good performance of the Lada products and pricing action. At constant exchange rate and perimeter, revenues would have been up 3.3%. The contribution from sales financing was down 10.1% at EUR 0.8 billion, reflecting the Forex impact in LatAm and the significant decrease in the level of the independent dealer stock.

I will begin this analysis with the review of the automotive division on slide 12. From the left-hand side, the first item, volume, accounted for -6.8 points. This is more than what we have shown for registration. This gap is explained by the impact of the inventory reduction in the quarter compared to last year. Geographic mix is almost neutral. The product mix effect was positive by 1.1 points in the quarter, reflecting the strong sales of ZOE. The price effect was positive by 5.5 points, showing further acceleration after the two points recorded in H1. This came from price increases implemented in the emerging markets to compensate the devaluation, but also from our deliberate, more ambitious pricing, as Denis mentioned. The sales to partners item was negative 3.3 points in the quarter.

While still significantly impacted by lower sales of cars and component from our partners, the trend benefited from an easier comparison basis, especially for the Rogue that we used to produce for Nissan. The next item is foreign exchange. It showed a negative impact of 4.2 points. This is the direct consequence of the fall of the major emerging country currencies we're exposed to. The last item, other, impacted positively for 0.3 points. It had been supported by the recovery seen in the after sales business after the lockdown, but penalized by the impact of buyback retreatment. On the following slide, globally, our stocks went down in the quarter to 470,000 cars at the end of September, when we were at 547,000 at the end of June 2020.

Consequently, in number of days of backward sales, as Denis already mentioned, we stand at 65 days, a decrease of 10 days over 2019. This is a low level compared to previous years, it reflects our willingness to keep a healthy balance between inventory and order book. I will now move to slide 14 and comment RCI's commercial performance. In terms of activity during the quarter, average performing assets stood at EUR 45.9 billion, down 3.7%, mainly related to the impact of lower dealers' inventory to be financed by the bank. The number of new contracts underwritten by RCI Bank increased by 5.9% versus the same period in 2019, notably thanks to the increase in its penetration rate for new vehicle and its high level of business for used vehicle. New financing stayed almost stable at EUR 5.1 billion, a 2.4% increase. This concludes my presentation.

Denis and I will now take your questions, so I will hand over the call to the conference operator. Thank you for your attention.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, please press zero one on your telephone keypad. Please lift your handset before you ask your question. Thank you for holding until we have the first question. The first question comes from Thomas Besson from Kepler Cheuvreux. Sir, please go ahead.

Thomas Besson
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Thank you very much. I'll be quick because it's a very quick call. On inventories and pricing, Clotilde, can you comment on the industry dynamic? Is it fair to believe that inventories for the industry overall are tight, and that therefore, the risk we may have had on industry pricing for Q4 could be relaxed, and that therefore, it's also a support for your new pricing policy?

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Well, Denis, I guess you can take that question.

Denis Le Vot
EVP of Regions, Sales and Marketing, Renault

Yeah, I will not comment on the industry. Obviously from the restart, the demand has been here and our inventories are low. We intend to continue that way, which is to say we have here a favorable mix between the attraction of our new product that permits to handle the pricing policy that we've had, and at the same time to remain at what we could call not low, but normal inventory level. We are 65 days coverage. This is what we intend to follow. On the pricing, just the same, we shall follow the same policy going forward.

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

I can add also that on the pricing of the industry, we don't see for the moment any strange behavior. Denis, do you want to complement on the industry for pricing?

Denis Le Vot
EVP of Regions, Sales and Marketing, Renault

Yeah, sorry, I thought your question was about the inventory. On the pricing, what we are doing, as I said, is that our products are pretty attractive, we leverage on this to pass 5.5 point, which is massive, on the quarter. We don't see that the industry is going the wrong direction so far, we will not go the wrong direction ourselves, okay? I repeat, the attraction of our products and the level of our inventory permits us to continue this policy.

Thomas Besson
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Great, another question, please, on EV credits. You've registered, suggesting that you'll be above your targets for that. Is it going to be a meaningful support for your liquidity position, or how does it work, and can you help us getting a feeling of that, please?

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Thanks for the question, Thomas. As we announced since the beginning of the year, we're very comfortable in our CAFE situation. We also announced at the beginning of the year, if you remember, that we would pool with Nissan and Mitsubishi as an alliance in terms of CAFE credits. There was an official deadline to register before the end of October if you wanted to do a pooling, which we have done. In view of our situation globally for the three companies, we're now confident indeed that we potentially could welcome other OEM within this pool, and there are discussions going on. That being said, don't expect it to be a major benefit, but it will be somehow a benefit for the three companies if we're able to negotiate correctly with other counterparts. Let put it that way.

Thomas Besson
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Next question come from José Asumendi from J.P. Morgan. Sir, please go ahead.

José Asumendi
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thank you very much. Good morning to you. José, J.P. Morgan. Just one item, please. Where do we stand, please, in terms of production in the third quarter, and what does this mean, roughly, for payables in Q3? Thank you.

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Okay. In terms of production, the level of production for the third quarter was basically 5% below last year, and we expect it to be at the same level, i.e., 5% below last year, for the fourth quarter. Basically, that means we would be around something like 90% of capacity worldwide. In terms of payable, we do expect, as I mentioned, a rebound in working capital as we usually do in the last quarter, which will enable us to be positive for the full H2 in terms of working capital, hence relying somehow on the payable. There should be a benefit, I would say, of the payable on the fourth quarter.

José Asumendi
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question come from Horst Schneider from Bank of America. Sir, please go ahead.

Horst Schneider
Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah, good morning, and thanks for taking also my questions. Sorry if I maybe missed it in your introduction statements because I joined a little bit later. I have seen in some of the news that basically your gross liquidity was something like EUR 15 billion at the end of Q3. If I look at it right, it was something like EUR 16 billion or EUR 16.8 billion after H1. Does that imply that the free cash flow basically was negative in Q3? That's my first question. Thank you.

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Yes, Horst, you're fully right. Our liquidity position was at EUR 16.8 at the end of June, and it is at EUR 15.2 at the end of September. It does reflect two things. First, if you remember, the French OEM have negative working capital as a structural base, which means that when you have lower activity, you consume working capital, which is always the case in Q3, because of the months of August, which distorts the payable and receivable activity. As usual, for any third quarter since I have been in this company, it was a negative working capital movement, even though it was a lot smaller than what we have seen in previous years. It was some kind of a reduced working capital negative movement, which induced some consumption of cash.

The rest of the consumption of cash is linked to redemption of debt, either in Renault headquarters or mostly, I would say, in the emerging market. As you may remember, as mentioned in June, we've been able to contract quite a lot of very short-term financing in order to sustain the lockdown period. Nothing to be alarmed of. On the contrary, we still have a very good level of liquidity, and as I mentioned earlier, we foresee for H2 a positive free cash flow.

Horst Schneider
Analyst, Bank of America

Clotilde, what is the normal level of working capital turnaround then in Q3 that you mentioned?

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

No, I did not mention the normal level. I said it's usually negative.

Horst Schneider
Analyst, Bank of America

No, you said all the time it was negative, and this time it was less negative than it used to be.

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Yes.

Horst Schneider
Analyst, Bank of America

I just want to get feeling what is the usual level that you have.

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Well, it really depends on year-on-year, but it usually quite a few billions on the third quarter.

Horst Schneider
Analyst, Bank of America

All right. Last one, on pricing, can you maybe split the price improvement between Europe and emerging markets? Just want to get a feeling, basically, what is related to the FX effect that you charge and what is related to true price improvement in Europe?

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Yeah, sure. On pricing, as we said, it's usually the case we use, sorry, I used three times the same word, but the normal compensation is around two-third of the impact. It's slightly less, but really only slightly less this time because obviously it's easier to pass on a foreign exchange impact when the market is booming, which is not the case, especially in South America. Nevertheless, in these difficult circumstances, I think the teams have done a great job. Let's assume we have been able to pass on around 60% of the Forex impact, the rest being linked to the pricing policy efforts and the new product coming in.

Horst Schneider
Analyst, Bank of America

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, just a reminder, if you wish to ask a question by phone, please press zero one on your telephone keypad. Next question comes from Stephen Reitman from Société Générale. Sir, please go ahead.

Stephen Reitman
Analyst, Société Générale

Yes, good morning. Could you comment on your EV utilization? Obviously, all the support that's been given by France state, Germany, and in other parts of Europe with the post-COVID recovery has been very helpful for demand. What capacities do you have to increase production on ZOE and on your plug-in hybrids and the like?

Denis Le Vot
EVP of Regions, Sales and Marketing, Renault

Yes, indeed. As you noticed, the demand level is growing, it's very high. As I mentioned before, we're having today 10,000 car a month, which are pure electric, that we have been selling. The portfolio, by the way, of our pure electric car is a little higher than the average, which is to say more than two months. We have a strong demand going forward on the electric vehicle, and we have the production capacity for that. We can produce 10,000 electric vehicle a month. This is not an issue. The waiting time for the client are still okay. By the way, the fact that our portfolio is high means that the waiting time for the client is okay. We are ramping up the E-TECH technology in our factories.

As I mentioned, we are about 22% of the three cars, which is a Mégane, Clio, and Captur on this technology. The ramp-up makes that the clients are beginning to receive their vehicles all throughout Europe now. If your question is about the capacity to produce, we have it.

Stephen Reitman
Analyst, Société Générale

Could you comment then on what is the supply or the availability like, for example, if on orders?

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Could you say again? We cannot hear you very clearly.

Stephen Reitman
Analyst, Société Générale

For example, on ZOE, obviously you're leading electric car at the moment. What are the inventory levels or what are the wait times for that vehicle in France or in Germany?

Denis Le Vot
EVP of Regions, Sales and Marketing, Renault

Yeah. As I was saying, the portfolio is a little more than the average. The right answer to that one is a little more than two months. It will, of course, depend on the city, the country, and the client, and the specification of the car. As an average, you could say two months.

Stephen Reitman
Analyst, Société Générale

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question come from Pierre-Yves Quemener from MainFirst. Sir, please go ahead.

Pierre-Yves Quemener
Analyst, MainFirst

Yeah, good morning. Pierre-Yves speaking. Thanks for taking my question. Just one last for me, on the working cap, could you please comment how much of the cash outflow of the first half would you be able to recover in the second half on a purely working capital basis if the production levels, in Q4, are as expected 5% below last year? Thank you.

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Well, as you know, it's extremely volatile because it depends, as we're paying our suppliers over two months, and we have visibility for two months but not for three, so we don't have visibility for the last month. Just don't go in the detail of the working capital. Just look at the total free cash flow, which we mentioned will be positive for H2.

Pierre-Yves Quemener
Analyst, MainFirst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We have a new question from Thomas Besson from Kepler Cheuvreux. Sir, please go ahead.

Thomas Besson
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Thank you. I just wanted to ask a question on the sales to partners. Clotilde, please. You mentioned Rogue as the driver for the negative development in the quarter. What can we expect in Q4 and going forward? Can you talk about the various elements that are in that bucket and when it's eventually going to stabilize?

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Yeah, thank you, Thomas. You're right. The impact on the sales to partner is still very much linked to Rogue. I think it will continue to decrease, but slowly lower, if I may say, a lot slower, than in the past in order to stabilize in the years to come to a more minimal level. You know that we're ending some contracts, notably, the one with Fiat, et cetera. Unfortunately, the demand on diesel is not going to pick up anymore. We are now currently working with other partners, trying to find new agreements with OEMs on sales to partner. As you may guess, these take times. OEM deals take times to negotiate, and then they take times to come into stream in the turnover, because usually you have a few years between the contract and the impact on your P&L.

It's going to continue to slow down and then stabilize at a low level until we've been able to contract something new.

Thomas Besson
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from Stuart Pearson from Exane BNP Paribas. Sir, please go ahead.

Stuart Pearson
Analyst, Exane BNP Paribas

Yeah, morning all. Thank you for taking my call. Just a couple of quick ones left from me. On the pricing side, obviously, the environment seems strong across the sector, both new and used pricing. Can you just comment on the residual value side? Have you changed your policy much on residual values during the quarter, being more optimistic in terms of the residual value guarantees you've been given in leasing, or have you left those largely unchanged? Just secondly, on diesel and the powertrain mix into next year, really, because clearly your hybrids seem to be selling well. You're ahead of track on CO2. Noticed that you seem to be withdrawing some diesel variants in certain models, certain markets. Could we see a step change downwards in your diesel penetration next year? They're my questions. Thank you.

Denis Le Vot
EVP of Regions, Sales and Marketing, Renault

Hello, Denis again. To your question number 1 on the residual value, you are right. The market is asking for cars, both on new cars and secondhand cars. This is number one. What we did at the same time is that if you take, for instance, in Western Europe, if you take the five main countries, we have improved the weight of our retail sales and our fleet sales by opposition to short-term rents and self-regs and demo cars. We have improved it, and we are now above the market level in percentage of our sales on these channels. This is part of the pricing policy, which is to withdraw from the channels which are more dangerous, let's say, for the residual value. We are protecting them on all of our cars, okay?

Also outside of Europe, as you could certainly notice, we've done the same, especially in Brazil. We've been withdrawing violently on the market share in order to preserve the residual value and the right channels. To your second question, yes, the answer is yes. Hybrid is getting quickly, at least in the orders, then will come, you will see in the next month in the sales, is getting quickly some place that the diesel was taking. Yes, the weight of the diesel will decrease in the sales going forward.

Stuart Pearson
Analyst, Exane BNP Paribas

Yeah. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We have a new question from Horst Schneider from Bank of America. Sir, please go ahead.

Horst Schneider
Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah. Thanks for this other question. I like this call, by the way, because we can ask more questions than normally. When you said on Jose's question that production going to decline by 5% year-over-year in Q4, will it be roughly the same for sales, or are sales likely to decline less than that? Obviously, my question is linked to the inventory development. The second question that I have is, we have seen some quite significant developments on FX. Can you maybe remind us on the potential drop-through effects? We have the weak Turkish lira, which doesn't affect you on earnings. Maybe some color on that would be helpful.

Denis Le Vot
EVP of Regions, Sales and Marketing, Renault

Yeah. As per the first part of the question, as I said before, we are reaching our 65-day coverage. The aim is to stay there. Our prospect here is that between the demand, the offer, and the very strong, I repeat, portfolio that we're having, we're going to stay at a level of around 65 down to 60, if possible, on the inventory. We don't expect the global inventory, except pandemic, exceptional situation, of course. We don't expect the level of the inventory to grow, if that was your question.

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

On the FX, as you know, Horst, it's difficult to comment because it depends on the basket mix. For your model, I guess, analysis, just take the usual drop-through that we usually give, because it really depends on which currency we're talking about. For example, in Argentina, it's not the same as in Brazil, it's not the same as in Turkey, as you mentioned. For the moment, just take the usual drop-through. You shouldn't be that far.

Horst Schneider
Analyst, Bank of America

Could you just remind me about the usual drop-through, please?

Clotilde Delbos
Deputy CEO and CFO, Renault

Yeah. I would propose that you take that question offline with Thierry, if you don't mind, because we have to close.

Horst Schneider
Analyst, Bank of America

All right. Okay. No worries. Yeah. Thanks for that. Yeah.

Thierry Huon
VP of Investor Relations, Renault

Okay. I think it's time to close the call now. It's 7:59 A.M. If you want to have time to switch to the Daimler call, we better stop now. Thank you for being on the call this morning at this earlier time. We are still around if you need to have further comments or if you have further questions about the Q3 revenues. Have a good day. Bye.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes the conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.