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Earnings Call: Q3 2024

Oct 30, 2024

Operator

Hello, and welcome to TF1 nine-month 2024 results. My name is Melissa, and I will be your coordinator for today's event. Please note this conference is being recorded, and for the duration of the call, your lines will be on listen only. However, you will have the opportunity to ask questions at the end of the presentation.

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

Thank you. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our nine-month 2024 results presentation. During today's call, I will present the business highlights of our two operating segments, provide a detailed breakdown of our financial results, and lastly, discuss our outlook. We will then open the floor for questions.

For those of you who are joining us via the phone, note that we are broadcasting the presentation through the webcast. You can also find it on our corporate website. Now, let's turn to slide four to go over the key highlights of the first nine months. Let's start with our audience results. After a first half in which the group recorded a strong year-over-year growth across all its targets, its audience shares were resilient during the summer despite the competition of the Paris Olympics on France Télévisions.

Right after this event, the group immediately regained its leadership in commercial targets. In the first nine months of the year, the group's audience shares were therefore almost unchanged year-on-year. They stood at 33% among women below 50 and 30% among 25-49-year-olds. On digital, TF1 Plus is establishing itself as a leader in terms of reach in September with 33.7 million streamers.

Now, regarding our financial performance, the group's advertising revenue was up 4.5% year-on-year, with a growth of 2.2% in linear, and continued strong momentum for TF1 Plus, which recorded a 39.5% growth year-on-year. Current operating profit from activities amounted to EUR 198 million, close to the figure of 2023. Current operating margin from activities was 12.4% compared with 13.2% last year. The group maintained a strong financial position with a net cash of EUR 364 million at end September 2024.

Based on our nine-month result, and despite an advertising market showing signs of tension for late 2024, notably resulting from the political and tax situation in France, TF1 Group confirms its 2024 objectives. Let's turn now to a detailed review of our results on slide six. As a reminder, TF1's reach is the key underpinning factor of the value we deliver to customers.

In the first nine months, the group maintained an overall reach covering 53% of French people every day, well above any other media such as YouTube or SVOD services. The TF1 channel retained its leadership position on commercial targets and maintained a significant gap with its main competitor. Its audience share was 22.3% among women below 50 and reached 20% among 15-49.

Over the first nine months, excluding programs related to the Olympics, the TF1 channel recorded the best ratings in each genre: French drama, entertainment, foreign series, news, and movies. On slide seven, the group had a solid lineup in the first nine months, performing well both in linear and streaming. The TF1 channel maintained its solid position across all day parts, confirming the relevance of the programming strategy.

It is illustrated by the leadership in audience share among women below 50 in the afternoon slot on Access and Prime Time, confirming the appeal of our three daily soaps and strong franchises. The new morning show, Bonjour, continued to gain popularity against French households. It recorded an 8.5% average audience in the four-plus target at the end of September, an increase of almost four points on this day part compared to last year.

As a reminder, the distinctiveness of the strategy implemented with TF1 Plus is to leverage the group's solid lineup to efficiently address both linear and non-linear without incurring additional programming costs. Non-linear now represents 20% of total usage among 25-49 on the TF1 channel, a seven-point increase year-on-year.

As illustrated on the right-hand side of the slide, the share is even higher on our strong franchises: 45% for the daily soap Plus belle la vie, 40% for Koh-Lanta, representing a seven-point increase year-on-year, and 35% for the new French drama Brocéliande. Now, let's turn to our non-linear developments.

The group's success in attracting linear audiences is a springboard for TF1 Plus. As a reminder, our intention with TF1 Plus is to become the leading free-streaming platform in the French-speaking markets, with the ambition to double the group's market share on the digital advertising market in the medium term.

The platform continues to deliver on its roadmap and is making progress on each building block, with a particular focus on ad inventory and monetization. During Q3, the group continued to unfold TF1 Plus' aggregation strategy of third-party content. After the initial milestone reached in July, when the initial partnerships with L'Équipe, Le Figaro TV, and Deezer were announced, the group will supplement its offering with audiovisual content from Arte and A&E Networks.

By the end of 2024, TF1 Plus will offer over 25,000 hours of content available at any time, compared to 15,000 when TF1 Plus was launched. These partnerships also enhance TF1 Plus' catalog by providing content in categories that complement those already available on the platform. TF1 Plus also continued its geographical expansion in French-speaking countries, with a launch in Switzerland in late September after being rolled out in Belgium and Luxembourg in June.

Let's now look at the production segment on slide nine. Newen Studios's revenue amounted to EUR 192 million at end September, down 3% year-on-year, with the 2024 activity mostly skewed to the fourth quarter, as previously announced. Newen Studios's current operating profit from activities was EUR 7 million.

The first nine months were marked by the launch of Plus belle la vie, encore plus belle on TF1 in January, increasing the synergies with the media segment. Another key achievement was the closing of the acquisition of Johnson Production Group at the end of July, as announced as well. Highlights in the third quarter were the deliveries of the drama series The Teacher for Channel 5, Cassandre for France 3, wide broadcasting of Le Magazine de la Santé resumed as the relation with France Télévisions gradually normalized.

In the fourth quarter, Newen Studios will deliver prestigious productions such as the second season of Marie-Antoinette for Canal+ and Memento Mori for Prime Video. Now, let's move to a more detailed breakdown of our financial results for the first nine months of 2024. You'll find additional information in our consolidated financial statements and their notes, as well as our management report, all of which are available on our website.

First, on slide 11, TF1 Group's consolidated revenue amounted to EUR 1.6 billion in the first nine months, up 3% year-on-year. This growth was driven by good performance in advertising, totaling EUR 1.1 billion, up 5%. In Q3, specifically, advertising revenue was close to last year, in line with the company-compiled consensus.

Linear revenue was steady during the summer, despite the competition from the Paris Olympics, and decreased in September year-on-year, as expected, given the base effect of the Rugby World Cup last year. TF1 Plus sustained its gross momentum at 37%, confirming the platform's appeal for both advertisers and streamers. At end September, advertising revenue for TF1 Plus was EUR 95 million, a 40% increase compared to last year.

Again, we're only talking about advertising revenue here. Non-advertising revenue in the media segment was stable year-on-year at EUR 252 million. Newen Studios had a revenue of EUR 192 million at the end of September, including a contribution of EUR 8 million from JPG over the months of August and September. We remind you that Newen 2024 activity is mostly skewed to Q4.

On slide 12, the group's current operating profit from activities amounted to EUR 198 million at the end of September, close to the figure of last year. Media COPA was stable year-on-year. In the third quarter, it benefited from the disposal of a brand license and a reduction in programming costs compared to last year when we had the Rugby World Cup.

The increase in programming costs of EUR 43 million over one year was mainly driven by investments made during the first half in the context of a growing advertising market. This is something that we already discussed in H1. As a reminder, in the first half of 2023, programming costs had been reduced to face a tough advertising market.

Newen Studios COPA was at seven million EUR at the end of September 2024, compared with 13 million EUR in 2023, notably related to the distribution deals skewed to Q4 this year compared to Q3 and Q4 last year. On slide 13, regarding the income statement, I have already commented on the consolidated revenue and current operating profit from activities. Looking further down, operating profit after the operating income and expenses stood at 178 million EUR, stable year-on-year.

It included minus 19 million EUR of non-recurring profit and expenses, mainly related to an extension of the agreement on jobs that Career Management signed in July 2023. Net profit attributable to the group was 145 million EUR in the first nine months of 2024, up six million EUR, notably benefiting from financial income on surplus cash. Now, let's look at the evolution of the net cash on slide 14.

Net cash stood at EUR 364 million at the end of September, compared with EUR 505 million at end December 2023, which represents a decrease of EUR 141 million. Over the first nine months, free cash flow amounted to EUR 109 million and EUR 51 million after changes in working cap, reflecting an operating cash flow net of lease obligations of EUR 292 million and net capex of minus 183 million euros, both stable year-on-year.

Changes in working cap of minus EUR 59 million. We remind you that last year we had collected a high level of payments related to the FIFA World Cup in Qatar in Q1 2023. Please note that the free cash flow after changes in working cap didn't include the proceeds from the brand license disposal that we collected early October.

Acquisitions and disposals amounted to 72 million euros, including the acquisition of JPG at the end of July for around 65 million euros, as announced. Other movements were already explained during H1 results. The rest is mainly related to the dividend payment of 116 million euros paid in April. Let's now have a look at our outlook and target for the rest of the year.

On slide 16, in the media segment, the last months of the year will be marked by a strong lineup for both linear and streaming, with a significant number of franchises, including new programs like Cat's Eyes. In digital, the group continues its transformation with a roadmap for TF1 Plus consisting of four main initiatives. First, unlock additional potential from the operational optimization of TF1 Plus.

We will keep working actively on increasing awareness, visibility, and daily consumption, and we will focus on ad load and monetization. In that respect, a second initiative recently announced during the TF1 Plus advertising upfront is to become the full-funnel digital marketing platform for brands from awareness to conversion. The group will introduce innovation in the advertising field, providing opportunities for advertisers to reach and engage audiences in a brand-safe and premium environment.

Third, become France's first free-to-view aggregation platform, thanks to the partnerships already announced. And finally, accelerate the rollout of TF1 Plus after a very promising start in France and the first phase of international expansion into French-speaking markets. TF1 Plus is now available in Belgium, Luxembourg, and Switzerland on all devices. The next step will be an expansion in North Africa in 2025.

In the production segment, activity will be concentrated in the fourth quarter, as previously announced. Newen Studios will deliver prestigious productions such as the second season of Marie-Antoinette for Canal+ and of Memento Mori for Prime Video. Following the launch of Plus belle la vie, encore plus belle on TF1, TFX, and TF1 Plus, Newen Studios will continue to increase its synergy with the media segment and, in particular, will deliver the second season of Mademoiselle Holmes.

On page 17, to sum up, TF1 delivered a robust performance in the first nine months of 2024, maintaining stable audience shares despite France Télévisions' coverage of the Olympics and increasing its advertising revenue in both linear and streaming. TF1 Plus sustained its gross momentum in Q3, confirming its appeal for both advertisers and streamers. The group also announced new milestones for the platform.

COPA was close to 2023 level, and the group benefits from a strong financial position. The group is continuing its transformation in an advertising market, showing signs of tension for late 2024, notably resulting from the political and tax situation in France. Despite this context, the group confirms its objectives, keeping growing in digital, building on the promising launch of TF1 Plus,

maintaining a broadly stable current operating margin from activities in 2024, and continuing to generate a solid cash flow, enabling the group to aim for a growing dividend policy over the next few years. Many thanks for your attention. I'm now ready to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, you may press Star followed by 1 on your keypad. To withdraw your question for any reason, you may press Star 2. Our first question is from Conor O'Shea with Kepler Chevreux. Please go ahead.

Conor O'Shea
Equity Analyst, Kepler Chevreux

Yes. Good evening. Thanks for taking my questions. Three questions. Firstly, Pierre-Alain, if you could just elaborate a little bit more about your comments on tension in the advertising market for Q4 in France. Would you expect a weaker performance compared with Q3 at this stage? Secondly, if you could just come back on the Q3 current operating profit, which was well above expectation.

You mentioned an exceptional. Were there any other unusual items within that, or were there some tactical cost savings on programming because of a weaker market? If you could just explain a little bit more how you got to this gross number in terms of margins for Q3, that would be great.

And then the third question, just on taxes in France with the expected increases announced over a two-year period, what is your estimate at this stage of how much that could increase the effective tax rate initially? Thank you.

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

Okay. Thanks, Conor. So first question about the tensions. At this stage, you know that visibility remains always low on the advertising market, but what you probably noticed in the various Q3 results of our advertisers is that they are kind of cautious for the end of the year. So at this stage, this is pretty much it.

We expect probably some tightening, given your last question and the potential tax evolution. Regarding COPA, so yeah, we sold a licensed brand that we had in our portfolio, which is not used from an operational standpoint. It's EUR 27 million proceeds.

Actually, you might have seen them in our cash flow statement in previous year, and apart from that, remember that at the end of H1, I told you that we increased our programming cost by EUR 55 million and that it should decrease on the second half of the year. And this is exactly what you see, 212 in Q3, decreasing compared to what we had last year, but remember that last year we had the Rugby World Cup. Nothing special apart from that.

Conor O'Shea
Equity Analyst, Kepler Chevreux

Okay. And on the tax rate, what do you expect at this stage for the next sort of two years?

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

You know how it works. It would be a charge in the P&L for Q4. Around our estimate is around EUR 20 million for Q4, but the cash out would be in 2025 and lower than that for 2025. Probably half of that.

Conor O'Shea
Equity Analyst, Kepler Chevreux

Okay. Half of that. Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Christophe Gerblanc with Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Christophe Cherblanc
Equity Analyst, Bernstein

Yes. Good evening. Thanks for taking my question. The first one was just to come back on the disposal of the brand. Is that included in your guidance of stable COPA margin? And was that included to start with when you gave that guidance earlier this year? That would be the first question.

The second question, just a quick follow-up on what Conor was asking. Was that the only one -off? Because I'm reading the provision section in the financial report, and it seemed there was a settlement on Molotov. There is a provision right back. So I was just curious as to whether that had any impact in Q3. That is the second one. The third one was on Johnson.

I think you said, Pierre-Alain Gérard, something like EUR eight million impact on revenues. What was the impact on EBITDA? And do you believe this 30% EBITDA margin is sustainable in the medium term? Because I've never seen such a margin on production. And the very last one, and then I'll jump back into the queue. We saw in the press there was a mention of My Little Paris being potentially sold. So can you confirm that is the case or not? And I saw an indication of EUR 70 million of revenues. Is that the right order of magnitude? Thank you.

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

Thank you, Christophe. So what was your question exactly on the disposal?

Christophe Cherblanc
Equity Analyst, Bernstein

On the disposal, it was.

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

Yeah. Yeah.

Christophe Cherblanc
Equity Analyst, Bernstein

Was it in the guidance at the beginning? Because it helps.

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

We had this operation in mind that to sell something, you have to find a buyer. So we had various scenarios, including the disposal. When we told you that we were on a broadly stable margin for 2024, we had various scenarios, and one including the sale of this brand license. Regarding the provision, I think you referred to something that happened last year in 2020, actually in 2022, when we had €9 million.

The settlement with Molotov didn't translate into movements in our P&L. Then regarding JPG, this is a very specific genre that we have another asset in Canada with Reel One, also with high margins in this genre. Is it sustainable? Yes. We have something that we announced, actually, I think in H1 as well. We secured output deals with partners, also securing the level of activity of JPG. And regarding My Little, we don't comment on this kind of rumor. We are regularly approached by various players, but I don't comment on this.

Christophe Cherblanc
Equity Analyst, Bernstein

Okay. And just a quick follow-up on Johnson. You have no commitment to buy out the minorities, so you will recognize the minority in the P&L, right?

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

Yes.

Christophe Cherblanc
Equity Analyst, Bernstein

Yes. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question on today's call, you may press Star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad to register your question. We'll pause for just a moment to allow any further questions to come through. And we do have a follow-up question from Mr. Gerblanc from Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Christophe Cherblanc
Equity Analyst, Bernstein

Hi. Yes. Yeah. I'm sorry, but I'm using the window. Two quick ones. The first one is on the Olympic Games impact. You said that September was down. I think I understand July was fine. So was August, at the end of the day, negative or flat despite the loss of provision share?

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

I can provide you more color on that. Actually, the sum of July and August translated into a flat advertising revenue compared to last year. And this is something that we are proud of, the resilience of our ad sales team during the summer and this unprecedented kind of competition. And the decline in September is mainly due to the tough comparison effect with the Rugby World Cup.

Christophe Cherblanc
Equity Analyst, Bernstein

Okay. And my very last one is on. It's a sector issue. We have C8 and NRJ 12 supposedly losing their DTT license. So have you made some assessment of how you could benefit from the situation? Because I would assume it will take time for new players to ramp up.

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

Yeah. I agree. We have run the math as well. You probably have seen some of the calculations done by a few of your colleagues. So yeah, probably, but it won't be a game changer. But we could benefit slightly from this.

Christophe Cherblanc
Equity Analyst, Bernstein

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. I would like to turn the floor back over to management.

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

No further question?

Operator

As we have no further questions, I would like to turn the floor back over to our management for any closing remarks.

Pierre-Alain Gérard
VP Finance, Strategy, and Procurement, TF1 Group

All right. Thank you. So yeah, maybe what to remember from this Q3 call, we delivered a robust performance over the first nine months. TF1 Plus sustained a growth momentum since the launch in January. We had a COPA close to 2023 level, and we have a strong financial position. So this leaves us in a favorable position towards the end of the year.

Thank you very much for your attention, and see you for full year results in February. Thank you. Thank you very much. We do appreciate your participation. That concludes today's conference. You may now disconnect.

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