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Earnings Call: Q3 2021

Oct 28, 2021

Operator

Dear ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the conference call of TRATON SE. At our customer's request, this conference will be recorded. As a reminder, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. If any participant has difficulty hearing the conference, please press star key followed by zero on your telephone for operator assistance. One final request. Please note the disclaimer that you will find at the beginning of the presentation. If you are only connected by phone, please access the online tool to display the disclaimer. I will now hand you over to Rolf Woller of TRATON, who will start the meeting today.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Thanks, Aurelia . Welcome everyone to our nine-month conference call from wherever you have dialed in. We are hosting the session today from four different locations. We hope actually that the transmission runs without any flaws. If not, please give us a shout so that we can adjust. I'm very happy to introduce to you today our new management team, which is Christian Levin, our CEO, and Annette Danielski, our CFO. They both will guide you through the presentation, and the other participants on the line from TRATON side are the usual suspects from the legal department, from finance, and from investor relations. We have sliced the presentation into different sections, and Annette and Christian will present different parts of the presentations and provide explanations on the developments during the first nine months in the third quarter.

We know numbers need this time a bit more explanation because of the first time inclusion of Navistar, and we try to give you as much transparency in the different chapters as possible in order to better understand what was going on during quarter three. After the presentation, we will host a question and answer session, which will be moderated by me because of the distribution of the participants over the place. I will do my very best actually in order to accommodate every question to be raised. Before we go over to the management team, I should make some housekeeping items. Namely, we hope you have received our nine-month interim statement as well as the presentation, and you should also have received the press release in the course of this morning.

If not, you'll find them on our website. As Aurelia has already told, please make yourself familiar with the disclaimer, which is to be seen on page two. With that, I hand over to Christian, who will start with the presentation. Christian, the floor is yours.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Thanks a lot, Rolf, and also from my side, a very warm welcome. It feels a bit awkward to sit here in the U.S. and not being able to see or meet you, but I hope the sound is good and that we can have an interesting hour ahead of us. I'm even more happy that I'm accompanied by Annette Danielski, the rock-solid CFO, that was actually the architect behind many of the big deals that we were performing in the last years of TRATON. Right, we're here to talk about Q3. And maybe to paraphrase Elon Musk, we have been in supply chain hell, but we have also been in market paradise. To handle these two situations at the same time, that is complex, to say the least.

To top that up, in the Scania brand, we also managed to completely sell out the current range of 13 L, which is the majority of our sales, and are not starting up sales of the new, by the way, common group platform until mid-November. Bear with us. I will, of course, come back to that during the presentation later on. If we move forward and take the next slide, then I would say that of course you are well aware that we had unfortunately Matthias Gründler, our CEO, and Christian Schulz, our CFO, leaving us. Both of them were architects behind and pushed the implementation of the Global Champion strategy and managed to achieve, I would say, major milestones for the TRATON Group in its short start-up life.

At the same time, I need to say for myself as new CEO and Annette as CFO, we're more than happy to continue the successful journey for TRATON. We've been with this company in different roles, but from the very beginning. I know it, and I know the commercial part of our operations very well, and not only from my time as COO, but also from my many years in Scania. Annette, if I may say so, you were really our internal luminary for the number world and acted most recently as head of finance. Both of us, we will execute on the next chapter for our group and will consequently implement the jointly developed new TRATON strategy.

What I stand for as CEO of TRATON is that I will transmit confidence in our new leadership and sure way to build stronger profitability. I will give a clear direction for our future success. Tail of the focus will now be set more on execution and to get the benefits that we deserve from our synergy work. Doing this modularization is going to be key, and our products and services are at the center of attention with the goal to increase scalability from big to small. With regards to collaboration in the group. We have the highest respect for each brand, and therefore will give them a lot of freedom to act, but always with the aim to create clear value for the group. This especially, of course, holds true for MAN, as it is very crisp on bringing success to them.

Last, I also want to succeed with the goal of making the Navistar deal financially fruitful. With Mathias Carlbaum, my former colleague from Scania, who was appointed CEO of Navistar at the beginning of September, and also joined our executive board in TRATON in October, we have an international experienced manager from Scania in place. He is the right person to lead Navistar into the new era as an integral part of the TRATON Group. With that, I would move to the next page and hook on to what Rolf said in the beginning of this interim report. In order to facilitate for you, we're trying to show two different structure. This is in connection with the first time consolidation of Navistar, of course, being now the first quarter with us fully.

They are included as from July first of this year. To give you a better comparability with the prior year period and also on a sequential basis, we, besides TRATON, also present the business figures of what we call TRATON Classic. That is then the comparison of TRATON prior to the acquisition of Navistar for the same nine-month period and for the three quarters of 2020, 2021 respectively. You will find these figures on the first section of this presentation and in a special section in the interim report. To make it even easier for you to see which structure we currently are in, we've also placed a small box at the top right of all the relevant pages. With that introduction, I would like to hand you over to Annette to start off with the financial details. Annette.

Annette Danielski
CFO, TRATON

Thank you, Christian, and a warm welcome from my side as well. Of course, I hope that as well I met many of you in the coming months, virtually or maybe even in person. As Christian said, we are both clearly committed to continue and bring TRATON to the next level. Now let's start with the summary and highlights of TRATON so far in 2021. Again, please be aware of the small box at the top right of the slide. In this section of the presentation, we will discuss the performance of TRATON Classic. I rather should say the old TRATON, excluding Navistar. Overall business recovery continued, but as you all know, the environment is still challenging, not only because of the ongoing overall COVID-19 pandemic situation, but also because of the impact by the supply chain constraints we have communicated to you lately.

We managed the challenge in the third quarter quite well, but like the whole industry, we are not immune against the semiconductor shortages and other supply chain shortages. Incoming orders and unit sales in the first nine months were strongly up. This, together with our renewed truck lines and strict cost discipline, led us to an adjusted operating result of EUR 1.4 billion and an adjusted return on sales of 7%. On the lower box of the page, you can see that we are making good progress also in the third quarter on other topics for TRATON. We have successfully completed the Navistar acquisition and boosted investment in e-mobility. A recent example for our ambition to foster e-mobility and become an active leader, together with Daimler Truck and Volvo Group, we plan to pioneer a European high-performance charging network for heavy-duty trucks.

We have taken another step towards a more responsible company. Scania joined The Climate Pledge, and MAN, the Science Based Targets initiative. We will come back to this in some minutes. Now on page eight, we summarize the third quarter achievement for some of our core KPIs, again, without Navistar. All KPIs in the third quarter are pointing in the right direction despite the supply chain constraints. We have to curb this.

We even managed to have only a negative net cash flow of EUR 205 million in the third quarter when we adjust for our cash outflow for the Navistar acquisition, which would amount in a total to EUR 2.6 billion and the restructuring at MAN of around EUR 294 million, including the MAN Truck & Bus restructuring cash out. The net cash flow amounts to -EUR 499 million, as shown on the slide. Most remarkable was our order intake, which was expected as expected below the Q2 levels, but significantly above the prior year and the Q3 2019 level. More than 7,000 units in Q3 is clear testimony to our strong truck lines and above average fuel economy offers. Christian pointed out already that we managed the challenges in the third quarter quite well.

Unit sales revenue, and operating result increased compared to prior year quarter, but the effects from the semiconductor shortage are also reflected in these figures. Now on slide nine, where we can see the development of our unit sales and incoming orders on absolute left-hand and the relative level right-hand chart. The market recovery went faster than we expected it to happen and even accelerated during the first half year of this year. As mentioned before, the business recovery is still underway and transportation activities are gaining momentum. The overall supply situation for our industry has been more impacted by supply bottlenecks since the last quarter. In addition, the third quarter is typically a seasonal weaker quarter, with up to four weeks of plant closures due to holiday season. The COVID-19 situation in Asia meanwhile intensified by the supply chain constraints we saw in the second quarter.

As you can see on the left chart, incoming orders in the third quarter of 2021 remaining well above a typical third quarter in the recent years. By relating incoming orders to unit sales, you can see that our book-to-bill ratio is well above one, with 1.4 for industrial business in the third quarter, confirming the trend of the previous quarters in 2021. Looking at the year-over-year change on the right-hand graph, you can witness that the third quarter dynamic sees slowing momentum, which is largely explained by base effects. The next slide on page 10 is for your reference. It confirms that we have reached pre-COVID-19 levels on the sales revenue already one year after COVID-19 pandemic had hit its lowlights and even in light of the recent supply chain constraints.

Availability of our new truck lines allowed us to achieve stable sales revenue of EUR 6.3 billion in the third quarter 2021 compared to third quarter 2019. Adjusted operating profit and adjusted return on sales were impacted by the mentioned challenges, but margin was close to 5% was given the challenges at still a healthy level. Coming to the next section, where we give you key figures of the performance for Navistar since they joined our group in July 1st. We are now on page 12. In the operating unit Navistar Manufacturing Operations, we demonstrate Navistar manufacturing distribution of products and service, so mainly trucks, buses, engines, spare parts and services. The activities of Navistar Manufacturing Operations are shown in our reporting in the industrial business segment.

I will not go into every number, but as you can see, the supply chain constraints also impacted Navistar's operating result and return on sales. In addition, the result was impacted by one-time cost of about EUR 40 million in connection with the M&A transaction. The underlying return on sales of Navistar without these transaction-related costs would have been close to 5%, as you would have expected it. All in all, Navistar has made a solid start to the new era within the TRATON Group. With a strong book-to-bill of 1.7, we are looking forward to the quarters to come. Net cash flow of Navistar and the manufacturing operation was at -EUR 286 million impacted by inventory build-up, which should be moderate in Q4.

On slide 13, we show you an overview of the effects driven by the first time consolidation of Navistar. As of today, a purchase price allocation has been performed and included in the nine months 2021 financial statement. Accordingly, the amounts recognized as of September 30, 2021 are preliminary values. The goodwill of EUR 2.757 billion resulting from the acquisition reflects the synergies arising from the business activity with Navistar. In particular, through expanding market share, purchasing, production costs, modernization, and the use of common components and research and development. Fair value of the deferred tax assets amounted to EUR 1.3 billion before netting and add to the total asset. As well, with the merger, we believe we will be able to utilize the deferred tax assets so the valuation allowance was largely released.

After netting with deferred tax liability, EUR 551 million will remain. With regards to research and development costs, according to IFRS, development costs that meet specific criteria are to be capitalized as assets on the balance sheet. Whereas under U.S. GAAP, these costs are expensed as occurred. More than EUR 400 million have been identified for the opening balance sheet. In Q3 2021, we have primary R&D expenses of EUR 80 million at Navistar, whereof approximately 46% were capitalized. This ratio reflects the nature of a system integrator. The profit and loss effects from the change into IFRS is pretty limited as capitalization and depreciation are of similar magnitude. The PPA had an effect of EUR 149 million on operating profit in Q3, mainly related to the amortization of the customer relationships.

The total PPA amount to EUR 2.9 billion and will be amortized over about 10 years. The amortization is not a straight linear line. To show the transparency in the coming quarters, we will later in today's presentation talk about a new structure of the group. Now we are coming to the next point in the agenda, where we summarize the highlights of TRATON for the nine-month period. I'm on page 15. Again, please be aware of the small box at the top right of the slide. This section of the presentation will discuss the performance of TRATON, including Navistar since July 1st, and therefore, in a new group structure in the future. We discussed the business environment before, which brings us directly to the figures. As you can clearly see, the inclusion of Navistar distorted all our figures.

Incoming orders now reaching nearly 270,000 units in a nine-month period. We are delivering nearly 200,000 trucks and buses to our customer. Sales revenue reached almost EUR 22 billion. Our adjusted operating result stood at EUR 1.3 billion. The adjusted return on sales at 6.1%, really impressive figures. On the MAN Truck & Bus restructuring, we have booked a total of EUR 681 million expense in the first nine months, 2021. We currently had cash out related to these measures of EUR 300 million for nine months, 2021. Lastly, we mention our net cash flow in the industrial business. I will elaborate on this on page 19 in more detail.

On the next slide, on page 16, we give a reconsolidation from TRATON Classic, thus TRATON without Navistar, to the new TRATON. As you can see on the left graph, Navistar in the nine-month period contributed EUR 1.7 billion to the sales revenue. Bear in mind, this is only the contribution for the third quarter. The first time consolidation of Navistar in the third quarter had an overall negative impact on the adjusted operating profit. The positive operating result of EUR 53 million was more than compensated by the negative effect of the purchase price allocation, which amounted to EUR 149 million. Here, as stated before, the operating result was reduced by a one-time cost of EUR 40 million incurred as a result of changes made in the context of the transaction.

The underlying result of Navistar altogether in the third quarter was a bit better than EUR 90 million and resulted in a margin of close to 5.5%, as you would have expected it. Coming to the next page, where we show the nine-month group development in the bridge for sales revenue and operating result. I can only emphasize that despite all the challenges we have faced the recent months, we are still on a very good track. As you can see on the left graph on page 17, Scania, MAN Truck & Bus, and Volkswagen Caminhões e Ônibus showed strong double-digit percentage increases on the top line. Scania added EUR 2.2 billion sales revenue, and MAN followed with close to EUR 1.5 billion versus nine months of 2020.

Volkswagen Caminhões e Ônibus had higher sales revenue of almost EUR 700 million. Compared to their size, again, a powerful achievement. On top, Navistar contributed EUR 1.7 billion since July 1st. Also, financial service, which includes the financial service activity of Navistar with EUR 46 million in sales revenue, showed a 12% increase. In total, it brings the group to a total sales revenue of EUR 20.7 billion, 38% up compared to the nine months of 2020. On the right chart, we see that the increase in adjusted operating result was also fairly well distributed with regard to the size of each brand. MAN improved its adjusted operating result in line with Scania, both with an improvement of around EUR 650 million. Also Volkswagen Caminhões e Ônibus and financial service saw a strong rise in operating result.

On top, the contribution from Navistar. Altogether, we had a swing of more than EUR 1.3 billion versus nine months of 2020. This is including the purchase price allocation effect of EUR 149 million within others. Return on sales at Scania Vehicles & Services is at nearly 11%. Last quarter has been more affected by the semiconductor shortage, but still Scania is confirming its top position within the industry. Including financial service, Scania Group reached a return on sales of 12%. Worth mentioning, MAN. The MAN team achieved to improve its earning, which has shown the first successes of the repositioning process. Further levers have been higher sales revenue, the introduction of the new truck generation, and strict cost management.

Navistar's manufacturing operation reached a 2.5 return on sales, but as noted above, the underlying result was close to 5%. Including the financial service activities, the Navistar Group reached a return on sales close to 5.5%. Last but not least, Volkswagen Caminhões e Ônibus. Our team in Brazil achieved a strong return on sales of 8.1% and is now on their target level. Third quarter was even stronger than second quarter with EUR 55 million operating result, a 9.2% return on sales. This was driven by higher sales revenue and improved product positioning. Last, the financial service business. We reached nearly 25% adjusted return on sales, meaning that the operating result more than doubled to EUR 170 million. Navistar Financial added EUR 60 million.

Now on slide 18, where we have detailed view on trend level for unit sales and incoming orders on a quarterly basis. Overall, we have seen that the broad-based recovery in the truck demand in most regions of the world continued. Incoming orders for MAN and Volkswagen Caminhões e Ônibus showed a strong increase year-over-year in the third quarter. Particularly in our core region, EU27+3 in South America, and here mainly important for us in Brazil. After several quarters of outstanding incoming orders, Scania still achieved a very high absolute level in the single quarter. Unit sales, as we discussed now, several times was impacted by the supply chain constraints. Nevertheless, the absolute level of deliveries for Scania and MAN in this environment, and in a seasonal weaker quarter, was more than solid.

Regionally, we have seen strong increases of unit sales, in particular in Brazil, which led us to this impressive figures of +43%. In the EU27+3 region, slight decreases were visible. On the bus side, we have seen different development within the brands. Incoming orders for Scania and MAN increased compared to previous year, very low level. Coming to our net cash flow development on the next slide, page 19. Despite the challenges we have to deal with, there was an increase in cash flow from operating activities compared to the previous year, which had been impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic. Together with the continuing supply shortages of semiconductors and other important components in the current year, this led to an increase in working capital tied up in inventories and receivables.

The acquisition of Navistar is reflected with - EUR 2.6 billion in the net cash flow. All in all, the net cash flow of the industrial business segment amounts to - EUR 3.4 billion. It includes the net cash flow of the Navistar Manufacturing Operations of - EUR 286 million in the third quarter of 2021. The net cash flow, including the payment of the Navistar acquisition, stood at EUR 785 million in the third quarter, still including the negative - EUR 286 million mentioned before, and EUR 294 million due to the MAN restructuring. On the next slide, you can see the bridge from fiscal year 2020 to our recent debt.

Besides the dividend and squeeze out outflows, we had an EUR 300 million outflow for the MAN Truck & Bus restructuring. All three totaled to a decrease of roughly EUR 1 billion. Further, the Navistar deal added more than EUR 6 billion on the balance sheet, as we had to pay the purchase price and got close to EUR 3 billion net debt added by Navistar. With the net debt was at EUR 6.8 billion. Pension for TRATON are at EUR 1.5 billion and EUR 1.1 billion for Navistar. Including pension, total debt is amounting to EUR 9.4 billion. After that, I hand over to Christian again.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

All right, thanks, Annette. A few words about electrification and the progress there. A crucial part of our ambition to be a forerunner in the electrified business is a holistic offering of electrified both trucks and buses. Here we then showcase the numbers based on the year-to-date figures. You can see that we have a broad portfolio in place with some photos up there. You can see that all brands are offering alternative or electrified products in different categories, both trucks, buses and vans. It will be gradually enlarged with new products coming out in both coming years and months to provide customers with competitive and efficient vehicles. In the table, you see the numbers to date. We have delivered nearly 670 electrified units in the first nine months.

Most of them are MAN TGEs and vans. Also for medium and heavy trucks, we delivered so far 24 units. What is more interesting perhaps is to take a look at the order intake. Where you can see that more than 1,150 vehicles has been ordered, and also 321 heavy trucks. We are of course early on the S-curve, but that the S-curve is coming is definitely clear to me. We can shift to the next page and continue to talk about MAN. To create value is key element, as I said, in our new strategy. To do this, we don't necessarily have to look at new business areas or new technologies. We have a lot of potential in our core business in the group. Our main task is of course MAN.

To me, that is my number one target. We need to get MAN back to a decent profitability. The MAN management has done a good job. They have already put in place a vast structural change program that this time is very well worked out. We have actually started to go into execution phase of this program, and we saw some of the results earlier in Annette's presentation. We will also benefit from a better exchange of technology inside the group, spinning on Scania's core modularization. Let's shift to the next slide. Responsibility as a top priority. Our alternative drive strategy has a clear scientific basis. Our goal is not to comply with some minimum standards. TRATON's future is zero emission.

We expect that in 10 years time, 80% of our new sales in distribution trucks for cities will be zero emission. For long haulage, our target is 50% zero emission by 2030, provided of course, that regulatory mechanism with infrastructures and green energy are following. Our two brands, Scania and MAN, have recently taken important decision on this journey. Scania is now joining Amazon and Global Optimism in the so-called Climate Pledge, and is now one of the companies aiming to reach net zero carbon emission by already 2040, hence 10 years ahead of the Paris Agreement. I personally urge other companies in the industry to follow along with other stakeholders involved in achieving a sustainable transport system. The commitment to the Climate Pledge means that Scania agrees to three principles. We measure and report greenhouse gas emissions on a regular basis.

We implement decarbonization strategies in line with the Paris Agreement through real business change and innovation, including efficiency improvement, renewable energy, materials reductions, and other carbon emission elimination strategies. We neutralize any remaining emissions with additional quantifiable, real, permanent, and socially beneficial offsets to achieve the net zero annual carbon emission already by 2040. Sustainability is also a key component of the new MAN corporate strategy. This will now manifest itself in concrete targets for reduction of greenhouse gases. Accordingly, now also MAN Truck & Bus has joined the Science Based Targets initiative and is thus taking responsibility for limiting climate change. By joining, the commercial vehicle manufacturer is committing itself to defining binding science-based targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions harmful to the climate.

MAN will submit clear targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions from its products in the use phase, as well as for its corporate sites for validation by the SBTi organization. A little bit more on Navistar. Here we give you an update about the multiple opportunities for our new family member, Navistar with International brands, and where we highlight the examples where we wanna benefit from in the future. I am currently on page 25. Yes. So as we already mentioned a couple of times, Navistar is a perfect fit to TRATON. It offers opportunity to access the attractive NAFTA profit pool directly with a highly complementary geographic footprint. We can fully capitalize on the successful strategic alliance and use the components and technologies of the enlarged TRATON Group. Just mentioning here our new common-based engine.

With that, we can establish a strong and competitive product in Class 8 segments and gain back market share. I will give you more details about each of the highlights in the next few pages. Once we have gained momentum and increased market share, we can fully rely on the access to the excellent dealer service and access network in North America. Last but not least, we will explore various opportunities within the financial services business of Navistar. We can change page. On that slide, I will go a bit deeper into the highlights I just mentioned, how to create value in the future. First, we will leverage powertrain components, so the newly developed common-based engine, the so-called CBE.

As a refresher, this is our 13 L engine, which will have up to 80% component communality and represent more than 65% of the sales in the heavy segment. By leveraging powertrain components across the group, we can generate significant cost savings over the many years to come, as the powertrain stays for a significant amount of the manufacturing costs of the truck. Our common-based engine will go and start within Scania in mid-November, as I said in the beginning, for delivery in the spring, but also, as you can see on the chart, is now scheduled for introductions first at Navistar in 2023, and then later on in 2024 with MAN, even later on with Camiones Omnibus, 2026. Navistar was always strong in buses and in the medium and light duty segment. It had also once a decent market share in the 13 L segment.

+8% market share bottomed out in 2016. Since then, it has improved until the impact of the pandemic hit. Looking at the status right now, our ambitions are quite simple, but I would say very effective. Establish a strong and competitive product in the Class 8 segment and start building back market share. How we get there, I gave the answer a minute ago. Navistar can now make use of our extremely competitive component and technology set up within group. Coming to the next page. Once we have gained momentum and increased market share, we can fully rely on the access to the excellent, by the way, largest dealer network in North America. The strong distribution and service network is completed by the service partnership with Love's Travel Stops, the industry's largest and leading service network.

In addition, Navistar has one of the largest commercial vehicle parts distribution networks in North America. A note from my side at this point, Navistar has a vehicle fleet of 1 million trucks in the U.S. and Canada, and nearly 1/5 of all vehicles in Class 6 to 8 are International Trucks. Navistar's network is thus positioned to be industry leader in offering uptime to customers and to minimize downtime whenever anything happens. Not only with the new engine, and by the way, the complete, completely new driveline, will the International brand, as a result, undergo repositioning in which we focus on reliability of the vehicle and stronger connectivity. In combination with a strong product, this can and will clearly give the services, and after sales, and uplift, and drive profitability, and strengthen Navistar's position as one of the leading players in the U.S.

To make the picture complete, let's now have a look at slide 29. As you might know, Navistar offers its customer in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, a range of financial services, such as financing or leasing Navistar products. Navistar Capital, a program of BMO Harris Bank and Bank of Montreal, is, for example, Navistar's preferred retail and lease financial solution for products from Navistar and its dealers in the United States. Looking at this status at the moment, our ambition is to further capitalize the financial services activities going forward. By expanding the financial services product offering for our customers, we target to grow our market and improve profitability in this segment. By that, I again hand over for the next section to Annette, please.

Annette Danielski
CFO, TRATON

We are heading to the third session of our nine-month presentation, the outlook. On slide 31, similar to last reporting, we have collected market views for 2021. Most forecasts foresee an increase of the truck market in EU27+3, which should range between +10% to +25% for the year 2021. These views are compared to last time a little bit more cautious, driven by the supply chain constraints the industry is facing. Same holds true for South America. However, market participation saw a decent performance in the first nine months, and this is why the expectation on the lower end has been lifted. The range goes from 25%-40%, as you can see in the middle chart.

As shown on the lower chart, the truck market in North America is forecasted to grow between 10%-30%, also slightly adapted by the supply chain constraints in the industry. On the one hand, we see strong order momentum. On the other hand, there's still uncertainty arising from COVID-19, but also with regards to supply chain topics, especially semiconductor and other component supplies. In conclusion, it was a good first half of the year, but the momentum decelerate out of the supply chain limitation in the third quarter. This will also be the topic for Q4 and 2022, but we remain confident that the medium long-term situation will get better. This leads me to the next slide, the outlook for the TRATON Group in 2021. One sentence at the beginning.

Short-term supply chain bottlenecks, mainly semiconductor and other components, will continue to affect our manufacturing operation. We stay alerted as the situation can always change. The constant rise in the raw material cost adds up to the overall uncertainties. Our new forecast is for the TRATON Group, which has included Navistar since July 1st, 2021. Subject to further development is a strained supply chain in the first quarter and the resulting potential production stoppages or potential new restrictions stemming from the COVID-19 pandemic. We project a very strong year-on-year increase in unit sales and sales revenue in the fiscal year 2021, taking into account Navistar's contribution in the second half of 2021.

We should achieve an operating return on sales in the range of 5%-6%, excluding purchase price allocation. Including Navistar PPA, the operating return on sales should reach 4%-5%. We expect our net cash flow for industrial business amount to between EUR 0 million and EUR 300 million due to the current supply shortages and the resulting impact on working capital. Please note that this does not include the purchase price for the Navistar acquisition after deduction of cash and cash equivalents at Navistar Manufacturing Operations. Please have also in mind that the entire outlook is before expenses for restructuring measures for the repositioning at MAN Truck & Bus. Earnings with effects from the purchase price allocation relating to the acquisition of Navistar are not included in the forecast either.

For 2021 as a whole, we assume that the purchase price allocation depresses earnings by around EUR 280 million. Our continued cautiousness simply continues to reflect all the uncertainty we currently see all around us, like the COVID-19 pandemic, supply chain bottlenecks, and raw material volatility. With Navistar being the newest family member, we also will align our group structure. As discussed before, at the moment, Navistar Manufacturing Operations is part of the TRATON industrial business. Navistar Financial Services is within the financial service arm. From Q4 2021 onwards, the sum of the vehicle segments will be called TRATON Operations. The reason for that is quite simple. As the PPA would technically burn the industrial business performance, we want to show a clear picture for our four brands on the operational performance.

Therefore, the PPA will get into the corporate item bucket together with the holding and the participation and consolidation effects. We cannot really change something on the PPA, means it would be not fair to call it an operational ingredient in the group performance. For each of our four brands, we will show key figures in order to make the operational progress more visible. To summarize from my view, I will together with Christian drive the company to profitable growth. I will take care that we consolidate our balance sheet. Also, I will keep a close eye on our capital structure, and of course, I will further drive the integration of Navistar. Now I'm happy to turn the floor over to Christian for the last remarks of today's presentation.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah, all right. Thanks, Annette. I also summarized them from my side there on page 33. Despite all the uncertainties, we can just one more time confirm that the market environment overall is still very supportive. Besides that, we have plenty of self-help potential, if I may call it, left to lift up our performance. As I mentioned already in the beginning, product-wise, we have a very, if not the most competitive portfolio with our new truck lines on all brands at the very moment that will help to win also new customers. The introduction of the new generation of MAN is now complete and will allow MAN to further reposition its brand. First benefits were already realized since the second half of last year.

This will be complemented by the start of the introduction of the common base engine in the fourth quarter, sales start mid-November this year. With the successful implementation of a common base engine, we can concentrate now on new investments for future technologies. That means we will continue to further speed up on the electrification activities and expand our position on alternative drives. With the plan to pioneer a European high-performance charging network for heavy-duty trucks together with Volvo Group and Daimler Truck, we committed ourselves to boost e-mobility. Two other topics concerning the group structure will further enrich TRATON's potential. The full integration of Navistar, the transaction delivers on our Global Champion strategy by creating a global leader across key truck markets. Other important milestones were related with the MAN repositioning.

We completed the merger squeeze-out of the MAN asset shareholders, and we sold the Steyr plant at the end of August, both helping to streamline our organizational setup. I think we can truly say we managed well to emerge stronger from the pandemic. Finally, as the group has made a lot of progress in the last quarters, and we have continuously achieved the cornerstones of our Global Champion strategy, it is the time to give all of you an update on how the management team wants to strive for the next era here at TRATON. At the moment, we expect to throw a Capital Markets Day in April or May next year. Topics of focuses will be the following, the new strategy, status of the MAN Truck & Bus restructuring, an update on Navistar, and hopefully some more goodies.

We will keep you posted once we have finally agreed on the date. We now start the most important and interesting section of the day, your questions and answer session. Thank you from my side for now.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Thanks, Annette and Christian, for that comprehensive overview. This time took a little bit longer actually than usual, but given the changes we had in the group, we thought it was really worth actually giving the focus on the specific developments during quarter three and during the first nine months. With that, I see the first question coming up from Klas, from Citi. Klas, once the operator has opened the line, the floor is yours. Please, as a reminder to everyone, if you have yourself limited to two or three questions, we would be very grateful, just simply because to give everyone the chance to raise a question, a meaningful question, and or in order actually to execute that swiftly. Thank you. Klas, please go ahead.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you. Thank you, Rolf. Hi, hi Christian and Annette. It's Klas at Citi. My first question is on the production levels. How many stop weeks did you have in the third quarter, particularly in Scania on top of the summer holidays? Do you think, Christian, you can produce more beyond just normal seasonality into year-end, or should we remain at the current levels? I will start there.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

I think-

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Right. Thanks, Klas. It's the most relevant question talking about supply chain health. Yeah. We did really well at Scania, specifically up until summer vacation. I think we were the brand in hindsight that managed best the supply chain shortages. Starting up after vacation, where we really thought we had all the buffers filled, we could only run one week at full speed, and then the problem started. It's been various semiconductor shortages hitting our tier one suppliers related to control systems on the vehicles, and some so severe that we couldn't produce. When I summarize, we actually came to during the quarter or up until the third quarter, but it's basically all in Q3 24 stop days.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Okay.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Of course, it's not complete stop days because it's reductions also during days where we run, but we run at reduced pace. It would be an equivalent of 24 days. Of course, adding vacation, I mean, Q3 is a weak quarter with the seasonality of the vacation. You actually come to compare to normal quarter or any other quarter that we worked less than half of the normal time. That, of course, explains the relatively poor EBIT results coming out of the Scania brand in Q3.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Into year-end, what do you think? I mean, I know visibility is quite poor, but in terms of what you-

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah. Visibility is still extremely bad. I talked to all the chip manufacturers relevant to us directly on CEO level. No one promised anything, but it's certainly looking better than Q3. Going into Q4, we expect disturbances to continue, but not at all on the same level. Into next year, it will continue for sure during the first half, and then it seems that we could potentially leave those problems behind us.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Okay. My second question is on the recent management changes. What's your mandate now, Christian, from the board in terms of integrating the different brands under the Global Champion strategy? You mentioned modularization as a key focus. To what extent can you push ahead further with increased decentralization, modularization for all brands where Scania has been particularly strong in the past? We get the common base engine, but what will be different on the U.S. CEO in terms of driving that modularization integration further?

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah. With perhaps a disclaimer that I am working on my first 100 days, and I've been asked to come up with to the supervisory board in the first quarter with a comprehensive strategy focusing especially on execution. Of course, some hints I can give you, and one is, of course, that I will be heading both Scania and the group at the same time, meaning that Scania gets much bigger responsibility, and that means then opening up the secret sauce, so to say, of the Scania success story.

One is the modularization, another is the lean manufacturing system, and third is the extreme customer closeness and what, in Scania, is called the commercial operation, where we have gained big synergies in the retail network. Much of that will, of course, be available to the other brands. I think the big thing is really on the product side, where we have spent too much time on infighting and creating friction and losing time, whereas we now can really have faster decisions and go in common where it makes sense to go common, and still keep, especially in Europe then, where it's more difficult, the relevant brands positioning in the market.

There is certainly space both for MAN and for Scania in that marketplace. But there are many other goodies that we should reuse. The Scania Financial Services is, of course, a success story from the start that we can do much more on a group level. But I think it's very much about opening up the Scania toolbox for the others by putting Scania more clearly also in the lead of many of the areas. Then you asked about the mandate. I can only say I feel I have a very good mandate, but I will come back to you in our Capital Markets Day and say what was finally then really decided upon.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Sounds good.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

I hope I was answering your question at least at some point.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you very much.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Thanks.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Very good. We move over to Hampus from Handelsbanken.

Hampus Engellau
Equity Analyst of Capital Goods and Head of Sector Research Nordic Equities, Handelsbanken

Thank you very much. Three questions from me. Starting off on the order intake, with MAN being up 54% and Scania being down 4%, would be interesting to discuss some strategy behind this. Also if you could relate that to lead times, are Scania having longer lead times than MAN or are they on par now? That's my first question.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Should I answer them immediately or you wanna do all the three?

Hampus Engellau
Equity Analyst of Capital Goods and Head of Sector Research Nordic Equities, Handelsbanken

No, let's take them one by one instead of throwing-

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Okay.

Hampus Engellau
Equity Analyst of Capital Goods and Head of Sector Research Nordic Equities, Handelsbanken

three long questions to you.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Thanks. An old man does not have to remember. Thank you. No, there is no strategy, Hampus, behind Scania doing -4%. Neither there's a strategy behind MAN doing +54%, to be honest. Of course, we're victim to a very, very strong market. I called it the market paradise, and it's really unbelievable. I mean, with the exception of buses and particularly long-haul buses, I mean, we see all segments growing and we see transport activity increasing. We see really old vehicle being put back into operation, and we see used trucks they really sell like hotcakes. With that, well, your success is somewhat depending on what your investment system can deliver.

As we talked about when it comes to delivery, when it comes to order intake, it's basically how long order queue do you want. That could be a strategy, but in this case, that is not limiting Scania because we went up until 100,000 in order book, and that is of course historical absolute record. If you compare back before the financial crisis in 2008 and 2009 beginning, there was also record order book. It was 50,000. It's twice as high after nine months of the year. What happens was that we sold out the current 13 L driveline platform completely. There is no more to be allocated.

You remember probably that we in July this year went live with the fact then that this new common base engine will finally be introduced, and we have started sales for customer orders, in a couple of weeks, with a big event, of course, press event. We have all our MDs and sales managers, plus important customers are gonna come and test drive and so on. We just had to stop order intake. That's actually what happened. We didn't count on that, but that is the consequence. Because starting to sell now when we cannot be, when we're not completely prepared to tell the customers what they're buying, that also does not make sense. I hope that that answered your question.

Hampus Engellau
Equity Analyst of Capital Goods and Head of Sector Research Nordic Equities, Handelsbanken

Yeah.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

on the order intake for Scania.

Hampus Engellau
Equity Analyst of Capital Goods and Head of Sector Research Nordic Equities, Handelsbanken

Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, I had a follow-up question on the risk in doubling orders compared to 2008. I guess there's a big difference in what you define as an order these days.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I think we learned a lesson in the whole industry probably, but we certainly did in our group. The orders we talk about now, they are. We only calculate orders where we have a firm commitment and actually with a penalty for canceling allocated to it. Of course, we have financing and we have the full spec and we know the customers and so on. I don't feel worried this time for that, to be honest. What worries me more is of course our ability to finally deliver all of these and make the customers happy because waiting up to one year for a new vehicle is of course not good for anyone.

Hampus Engellau
Equity Analyst of Capital Goods and Head of Sector Research Nordic Equities, Handelsbanken

Fair enough. Last question is on, I guess you're gonna come back on this on the Capital Markets Day, but it would be interesting to hear a little bit about the rollout of the 13 L engine in Navistar into 2023. Will that be like an offer complementary to the Cummins and a gradual process? Because I remember back when Navistar was trying to force the MAN engine, the MaxxForce bore engine to go EGR to comply with-

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah.

Hampus Engellau
Equity Analyst of Capital Goods and Head of Sector Research Nordic Equities, Handelsbanken

with the emission standard when everybody else were using SCR technology, and that was something that many of the clients remember, I guess. Yeah, how do you think about that?

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah. You're right. Now, I think it's a bit early to go into the launch strategy of the Navistar program. We're basically getting to know them here as we speak. For sure these vehicles, these engine families are gonna exist in parallel with the Cummins in the beginning. It will very much depend on different segments in the market having different preferences when it comes to bore and when it comes to what kind of application and also secondhand value. The core target is of course to replace the 13 L engine that was based on MAN that Navistar currently uses.

I promise I will come back with a more detailed explanation how we think about the market entry in the U.S.

Hampus Engellau
Equity Analyst of Capital Goods and Head of Sector Research Nordic Equities, Handelsbanken

Thank you very much.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

What I could add, and what I learned over here is that the tests that are ongoing show really, really good results. That is of course very reassuring also in American circumstances with much higher speeds and lighter loads and so on.

Hampus Engellau
Equity Analyst of Capital Goods and Head of Sector Research Nordic Equities, Handelsbanken

Thank you.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Thanks, Hampus.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Okay. Thanks, Hampus.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

We move over, and the next question comes from Michael from Bank of America. Michael, please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Thank you. Good evening, everybody. My first question is just with regards to the corporate items line. If you exclude the PPA adjustment of EUR 149 million and the one-off M&A cost of around EUR 40 million, the overall level is still up by around EUR 40 million versus say Q3. Does this relate to the Navistar head office cost or is there something else there? What should we expect from that line item going forward? That's my first question, and I've got two more, but perhaps I'll just stop after the first one.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

That's for you, Annette.

Annette Danielski
CFO, TRATON

We adjusted, as you mentioned, the PPA effect of EUR 149 million is really not driven by brand performance. The EUR 40 million, as we mentioned, and everything else is more seasonal pattern. We have nothing else special in. We have something I could mention, this is a merger result that you know we have a little bit, but it's nothing special. First, it's really performance related to the seasonal pattern.

Speaker 9

All right. Thank you. Then to the guidance, roughly back of the envelope to reach a 5% adjusted EBIT margin for the full year would imply that you expect the fourth quarter to be roughly 5%-6%. Would imply that you expect the fourth quarter to be roughly as weak as the third quarter. Based on your comments earlier about production being less disturbed in Q4, is there something else that is driving your caution?

Annette Danielski
CFO, TRATON

Nothing else. No, nothing else is driving our cautions. Really, the supply chain, we can really not forecast very well. As mentioned before, nothing else special that really make us caution. As I mentioned, it's really supply for the macro raw material and COVID-19 here now will shut down next week, you know. We are cautious. We want to reach this, what we put it out. If it gets a little bit better and a little bit light at the end of the tunnel, then it would be good. This is the status of today.

Speaker 9

All right. Thank you. Any-

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Michael, if you run the numbers at the midpoint, I think you wouldn't arrive actually at the third quarter levels. You must end up a bit higher.

Speaker 9

All right. Thank you.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

If my model is correct, but.

Speaker 9

Perhaps one more qualitative question on the departure of Matthias and Christian. I guess it's difficult to see how this would happen in absence of a fundamental disagreement of some kind, likely on strategy. Can you perhaps provide some insight into what the key point of departure was, as this would sort of clearly impact on the way that we derive our forecasts going forwards? Thank you.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Christian, do you want to take the question?

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah. Yeah, but I don't, I really don't wanna. I mean, you would have to talk to Matthias or Christian to learn why they choose to take this drastic step, when they did. I'm sorry, but I will not comment upon that at this point.

Speaker 9

All right. Understood. Thank you.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Thanks, Michael, for your understanding. Yeah, we look forward and not backwards. Nicolai from Deutsche, you are next.

Nicolai Kempf
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yeah. Hi, thanks for taking my questions. Nicolai Kempf from Deutsche Bank. My question would also be on supply chain. I mean, we are all aware of the semi shortage, but yesterday, Volkswagen Group stated another shortage of steel, aluminum, magnesium that could hit the supply chain very severe again next year, and it could have similar impacts as the semi shortage. Do you share this view, or you think that's also gonna improve next year?

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah, I can give it a try. That's to some extent true also for our industry, I think, when it comes to these raw material related shortages. If we exclude any geopolitical game that we cannot foresee, of course, or predict, it's more of a pricing challenge than a shortage challenge. We are small in relation to the car industry. If you take steel, it's a couple of percent of what they consume. But I think they also said that also for them, the really big challenge is on the semiconductor. The rest we often manage to handle. But it's true.

I mean, we also have a lot of suppliers flagging, as we call red or yellow, meaning that they are also in trouble to get hold of material. Again, that's also why Annette earlier said that it is very, very hard to predict exactly what is going to happen and giving guidance at this point in time is, yeah, I think we never had such a difficult time to forecast the situation despite record sales, which is of course highly frustrating. Is there another question from you, Nicolai?

Nicolai Kempf
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yeah, just to follow up, would there be, do you target to raise prices to compensate for that, for the higher materials, and by what extent?

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah. I'll give you a general answer on that. We have been pushing prices up both based on increases from the supplier base but also based on the very strong market. In all our brands, there are ladders of increases coming in gradually different in different markets and different for different products. I do not feel a worry that we cannot cover for the increases on the cost side. What is of course challenging in all of this is when we get stuck in production, then of course the lead times are getting longer, and then, of course, the effect of price increases coming into the invoicing are also getting lower.

I think that is one worry that I would have when it comes to price increases, but not that we don't get the price increases through as such.

Nicolai Kempf
Equity Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Makes sense. Thank you, and all the best in your position.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah. Well, thanks a lot, Nicolai. I look forward to meeting you.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Thanks, Nicolai. We are coming over to Daniela from Goldman. Daniela, can you hear us? Operator, do we have Daniela on the line? If not, we would give her maybe the chance actually to redial in and would go over to José from JP Morgan.

José Asumendi
Head of European Autos Equity Research, JPMorgan

Thanks, Rolf. Can you hear me?

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Yes, we can hear loud and clear, José. Go ahead.

José Asumendi
Head of European Autos Equity Research, JPMorgan

Thank you. Thanks very much. I just have one question, please. I mean, in the last conference call, I found very interesting your projections for Class 8 taking market share in North America. I want to come back a little bit to this concept of, what does this mean from a product perspective, from an investment perspective, or in other words, can you regain market share with the current, product line update that you have? If you could share a little bit more the timeline, the ambition to regain that market share, which I think is very important for you as a group. Thank you.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Christian, would you like to take?

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah. Can I give it a try? Yeah, I think, obviously up until 2023, when the new driveline is coming into play with substantially higher performance and especially total cost of ownership, we would have to rely on the current lineup. Now, what has been very clear talking to customers over here is that what they were looking for when it comes to the future of International brand was stability. A lot of customers with big rolling fleets were actually worried to continue to invest in the brand, because they didn't know about the future and whether the brand would still be around.

TRATON stepping in and offering that long-term security will in itself have a positive impact on the development on the market share, especially with bigger and more professional customers that think in really long term. Of course also for our market share in the U.S., we will be depending on finding the semiconductor components needed for the International trucks. That is, of course, currently also a challenge. We will see there if the support from TRATON. I would also like to point out Volkswagen that has been really helpful in helping us finding alternative sources. That could also help.

That, that's a couple of things that can happen, but the big thing will of course be when we get our new driveline into place because it will show such a superior TCO for the customer. That would be the big thing. I don't know if you wanna add on it, Rolf.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

No, I think it's perfect.

José Asumendi
Head of European Autos Equity Research, JPMorgan

Thank you very much. That was great. Thank you.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Well, it looks like actually that was it. I think Daniela has dropped out with her question. With that, yeah, as promised, we were around, we tried to answer everything as good as we can. Thanks very much for bearing with us. Thanks, Annette, and thanks Christian for the very comprehensive session. Yeah, we are looking very much forward to catch up with you next time, which will be then with the year-end numbers in March 2022. Goodbye to everyone and speak soon.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Yeah.

Rolf Woller
Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, TRATON

Thank you.

Christian Levin
CEO, TRATON

Looking forward. Thanks. Thanks, everyone. Bye bye.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your attendance. This call has been concluded.

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