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Earnings Call: Q2 2025

Aug 14, 2025

Operator

Good day and a warm welcome to today's Earnings Call of Aumann AG following the publication of the financial half-year figures of 2025. The CEO, Sebastian Roll, and the CFO, Jan-Henrik Pollitt, will speak in a moment and guide us through the presentation and the results. After the presentation, you will have the possibility to place your questions directly to the management in our Q&A session. We're looking forward to the presentation, and with this, I hand over to you, Mr. Roll.

Sebastian Roll
CEO, Aumann

Good afternoon, everyone. It's great to have you with us. Thanks for the kind introduction and also a warm welcome from both of us. For those I haven't met yet, let me quickly introduce myself. My name is Sebastian Roll, and I'm the CEO of Aumann. Joining me today is our CFO, Jan-Henrik Pollitt, who will share his insights a little bit later. I really appreciate your interest in Aumann and this earnings call. Over the next few minutes, we will take you through a quick snapshot of Aumann's current developments shaping the e-mobility and automation markets, and of course, a look at our financial performance in the first half of 2025. Let's start with our business model. We build high-end, fully automated production lines tailored to the needs of our global customers. With decades of experience, industry leaders rely on Aumann's solutions to set new production standards.

One of our competitive advantages is staying ahead, especially in fast-growing markets, enabling us to quickly provide customized solutions. This is why the automotive market, especially the e-mobility sector, remains so attractive for us. The transition to e-mobility and the shift in products continue to drive positive momentum. In addition, the robotics and automation market is growing rapidly, driven by demographic change, labor shortages, and cost pressure. We plan to expand our focus on these opportunities going forward. With our next automation segment, we will benefit from these macroeconomic trends. Let's take a quick look at Aumann's solutions. Our portfolio ranges from modular solutions and complex process solutions to large-scale production solutions. In modular solutions, Aumann offers standardized cell systems. They enable our customers to react fully flexible and cost-optimized on market demands. In addition, Aumann develops production lines for complex processes such as winding, coating, and testing.

The aim is to implement special process steps in the most efficient way. Moreover, Aumann offers customized, large-scale production solutions built for maximum output while ensuring high quality. Thanks to Aumann's wide range of solutions, we can fully support different production goals of our customers. This slide shows how Aumann became a technology leader in e-mobility. Starting from the traditional automotive market, e-mobility was identified as a target market. Through strategic M&A, Aumann took the first step into the e-motor. Building on our know-how, we developed different solutions for the rotor, quickly followed by solutions for the stator, and finally, full e-motor assembly. After the e-motor, we continued our journey using our skills to sell large-scale production solutions for battery modules and packs. In addition, we introduced our own modular solutions, for example, for inverter assembly systems, but also very useful in the field of next automation.

Furthermore, we entered into a new field, converting technology. This enables us to provide production solutions for electrode manufacturing. Aumann, as I said, is a leading provider of turnkey e-mobility solutions. This illustration shows the drivetrain of a fully electric car, and nearly all components can be manufactured on Aumann production lines. Right from the start, Aumann placed a clear focus on the eDrive unit. Currently, each customer follows very different approaches in development. As a turnkey provider, Aumann offers all the latest production solutions for both stators and rotors. We go further. With our specially developed modular solutions, we have expanded our portfolio to include production solutions for electronic components such as sensors and inverters. This allows us to offer customers tailored scalable solutions even in this sensitive area. Now, let's shift our focus to our battery portfolio.

Our success over the years is also driven by our strong position in the field of battery systems. From our perspective, we benefit for two reasons. Firstly, as a pioneer in technology, we cover the full range from battery modules, battery packs, to Cell-to-X solutions. Secondly, new designs like Cell-to-Pack set high demands, and we deliver the production technology to match. Now, let's take a look at the e-mobility market today and in the future. Battery electric vehicle sales continue to gain traction. In the first half of 2025, more than 5.9 million were sold worldwide. This means a plus of 37% in comparison to the same period last year. China stays in the lead with over 3.7 million units, but Europe follows with strong growth, reaching more than 900,000 units, with a 22% increase compared to last year, including Germany with an impressive 38% growth. The U.S. market, which currently shows the lowest volume in comparison, is at least growing at a steady 6%. By 2030, BEVs are expected to make up 40% of sales. By 2035, even 2/3. Despite this positive growth, the industry has been slowing down since 2024. The main reasons are changing market conditions. Even the two major issues, future emission targets and tariffs, have hurt the automotive investment climate, putting many projects on hold. Nevertheless, rising BEV sales and a more stable geopolitical situation are expected to drive new investments in the near future. Let us return to the beginning of the presentation. As mentioned, besides the automotive industry, we are shifting our focus on other industries that need more efficient operations, higher productivity, and fewer manual steps and errors. At the same time, rising labor costs and the lack of skilled workers are driving companies to automate.

In this context, we have moved our next automation segment from an opportunistic to a strategic approach. This segment focuses on growth industries beyond automotive, such as clean tech, aerospace, defense, and life science. Let's take a closer look. In our segment, next automation, we have defined three strategic growth areas. Aerospace, for example, is picking up speed. Demand is growing in civil aviation, and defense budgets are boosting. We are making this a priority. Drones, for example, are a perfect fit for us. Electric motors, battery packs, full system integration, and end-of-line testing, just like in e-mobility. Same technology, new applications. Besides aerospace, clean tech is booming. The German government is putting EUR 500 billion into infrastructure and climate. This is driving more investments into renewables, hydrogen, and energy grids. Our third pillar is life science. An aging population, strong investment, and healthy margins make it a very promising industry.

Now, I would like to hand over to Jan.

Jan-Henrik Pollitt
CFO, Aumann

Thank you, Sebastian, and also a warm welcome from my side. I would now like to share with you the financial figures of the first half of 2025. Let me start with a quick overview. Based on our guidance for 2025, it is clear that we will see a lower revenue this year while maintaining a strong and attractive margin level. At the same time, we acknowledge that the market environment is still challenging. Under these circumstances, in the first half of 2025, we reached a revenue of EUR 108 million, which is 23% below the previous year and in line with our full-year guidance. Our profitability remains strong with a double-digit EBITDA margin of 10.5%. Order intake after two quarters amounts to EUR 90 million, which is 31% lower compared to last year. Order backlog reduces from the year-end level of EUR 184 million to now EUR 162 million.

Furthermore, our balance sheet remains strong with EUR 105 million net cash. Let us now jump into a few details. Based on the softer order intake and backlog over the course of 2024, we forecasted a decline in revenue for 2025. Across segments, we achieved a revenue of EUR 108.3 million, which means a decrease of 23% year- over- year. The revenue of the e-mobility segment decreased by 21% to EUR 89.4 million. The next automation segment decreased from EUR 27.8 million to EUR 18.8 million, as the previous year contains a larger revenue from a big order in the photovoltaic area. On the earnings side, we only see the volume effect and, fortunately, no quality effect. Our profitability shows a stable result despite decreased revenues. EBITDA declines in the same proportion as revenue, - 24% to EUR 11.4 million, and the EBITDA margin of 10.5% is thus at the previous year's level.

The margin still remains above the expected range of 8%- 10% for the full year 2025. The solid profitability in the first half of 2025 is based on a good quality of the order backlog, a strict cost discipline in order execution, and the adjusted capacities to the subdued market situation. Bottom line: 10.5% EBITDA margin means an EBT margin of 8.5%. The achieved revenue and earnings underline the company's operational performance and volume flexibility. Order intake and order backlog decreased significantly below the previous year's levels due to the challenging market environment. We see volatile political and economic conditions, tariff dynamics, and a persistently subdued investment climate in the automotive sector. On the other hand, the efforts in the next automation segment are gradually translated into order intake as the sales pipeline is rising.

Across segments, we see a decline in order intake of 31% year- over- year to EUR 90 million. This also results in a decreased total order backlog of EUR 162.4 million, which means a total reduction of 44% year- over- year. However, the current backlog is still solid in terms of profitability. Let us take a look at our segments. The e-mobility segment, order intake of EUR 68.1 million, is 39% under the previous year due to the mentioned market conditions. As a result, order backlog decreased by 53% to EUR 115.4 million. At the same time, revenue decreased by 21% to EUR 89.4 million in the first half of 2025. EBITDA develops in line with the volume effect by - 19% to EUR 10.7 million, which means a margin of 11.9%. In the next automation segment, order intake increased year- over- year to EUR 21.9 million as the new positioning is opening new markets.

The order intake includes an order in the mid-single-digit million euro range for clean tech applications. As said, the previous year contained a larger volume in order backlog and revenue due to a big order in the photovoltaics area. At the end of June 2025, order backlog amounted to EUR 47 million. After six months in 2025, revenue decreased 32% year- over- year to EUR 18.8 million. The EBITDA margin is stable at 13.5% on a lower revenue level, which leads to a total EBITDA of EUR 2.5 million. By the end of June 2025, our balance sheet continues to be in a good shape, with an equity ratio of 63.3% and EUR 111 million cash, of which EUR 105 million are net cash. This solid financial foundation allows us to respond flexibly to market opportunities and continue to drive the expansion of the next automation segment, both organically and through increased Aumann AG activities.

To conclude, we confirm our guidance for 2025. In the last years, we increased our revenue by almost 50% and EBITDA by more than 300%. Unfortunately, this year, we cannot continue this trend. The market environment and a noticeable reluctance to invest will lead to a decline in revenue to between EUR 210 million and EUR 230 million. However, on the profitability side, we can benefit from our order backlog and the flexible structure of our company. We will therefore also achieve an EBITDA margin of 8%- 10%. Let me hand over to Sebastian again.

Sebastian Roll
CEO, Aumann

Thanks. To sum up, in the first half of 2025, we achieved strong operating results with a double-digit EBITDA margin, driven by strict cost management in order processing and capacity adjustments. Unfortunately, order intake fell to EUR 90 million, with e-mobility down about 40% due to market uncertainties, tariffs, and weak automotive investments. Nevertheless, we expect to see the first signs of industry recovery once the geopolitical climate stabilizes, also supported by continued strong BEV sales across all regions this year. All in all, for 2025, as said, we anticipate lower revenues but a solid EBITDA margin of 8%- 10%. Meanwhile, we are pushing ahead next automation, unlocking growth beyond the automotive field. A key focus, as you know, is aerospace and defense, backed by rising budgets and urgent needs. Due to our strategic shift, next automation is already growing with rising order intake.

Our clear goal is to accelerate this growth both organically and through Aumann AG. Thank you very much for your attention, and we are happy to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you very much for your presentation and the transparency, gentlemen. Dear participants, we will now move on to our Q&A session. For a dynamic conversation, we kindly ask you to ask a question in person via audio line. Please use the raise your hand button for this. If you are dialed in by phone, please use the text combination star nine followed by star six. If you do not have the possibility to speak freely today, you can also place your questions in our chat box. We will hold the room for a moment so Carlo can speak. The stage is yours.

Hello. Congratulations on navigating this challenging environment. I was wondering, I have a couple of questions, if you could provide any details on the composition of the margins of your order intake, if you're seeing the weaker environment pressuring those margins, or if you expect the same around 8%- 10% EBITDA margins.

Sebastian Roll
CEO, Aumann

Yeah, I mean, in the current situation, it's not so easy to get this kind of margin, but we really take care of this. In the order intake, for sure, we have these kinds of margins different from project to project. In the order backlog, and I think this is something we mentioned several times, we even have a little better margin situation. What we see right now is that also, I mean, it's clear, but also we can get better prices from our suppliers as well. That's the reason why we can manage this kind of margin level right now.

Thank you. A second question, I was just wondering if you could comment on, there's a lot in the news about China's rare earth magnet export controls. If you see that affecting project timing with your customers, is there any risk there or alternative?

You mean on the tariffs topic?

On the rare earth magnets, if that's affecting customers.

Yeah.

There may be benefit there because customers might want to accelerate magnet-free motor design.

Yeah, it's exactly in the way you mentioned. I mean, what we have right now, it started roughly even a little bit earlier. There are discussions, for example, to get back to, for example, winded rotors in an e-traction car. In the past, this was normally linked to smaller cars. Now we see that in the discussion with our customers, this is something they would like to have. For sure, therefore, it's very important to have these precise winding solutions. This might help us. The other discussions for sure are especially in the area of defense, in the area of drones. It is clear that even in Europe, you can produce these kinds of e-motors more or less in the same price range if you have fully automated solutions. For sure, this is something where we really would like to help our customers who are interested.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you for your questions, Carlo. In the meantime, we have received no further questions. I will hold the room for another moment so anybody will have the chance. That doesn't seem to be the situation. We therefore come to the end of today's Earnings Call. Thank you, everyone, for joining. A big thank you also to the gentlemen for your presentation. Should further questions arise at a later time, and in the time between now and the Hamburger Investorentage , end of August, please feel free to contact Investor Relations. With this, I wish you all a lovely remaining day, and I hand over again to Mr. Roll for some final remarks.

Sebastian Roll
CEO, Aumann

Thank you very much for your interest. I hope we have shown that Aumann will stay strong also in 2025, coming from the results. We look forward to meeting you at the next conference in Hamburg.

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