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Earnings Call: H2 2024

Mar 27, 2025

Operator

Good morning. My name is John, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Mister Spex SE Fiscal Year 2024 results. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. As a reminder to everyone, this call is being recorded. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Irina Zhurba, Head of Investor Relations, who may begin your conference.

Irina Zhurba
Head of Investor Relations, Mister Spex SE

Great. Thank you so much. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our full year 2024 results. As usual, the presentation will last around 30- 45 minutes. Then we will allow another 10- 15 minutes for the Q&A. As always, you can find the presentation, the financials, the annual report on the IR website at misterspex.com. The speaker today here with me is Stephan, who will guide you through today's presentation. That said, let me hand over to Stephan to begin today's call. Thank you.

Stephan Schulz-Gohritz
CFO, Mister Spex SE

Yeah, thanks, Irina. Good morning, and thank you for joining this morning, your interest in Mister Spex and also in the 2024 full year results. 2024 was, for Mister Spex, truly a year of transition and transformation. We introduced our restructuring transformation program, Spex Focus, in August 2024, and of course, the program also had an impact on our 2024 results. Overall, looking at the key financial KPIs, we met the guidance with the net revenues of EUR 270 million, representing a reduction of 3% versus 2024. A major impact here was coming from our price repositioning and our discount detox, which had an impact on our top line. The adjusted EBITDA ended up at EUR -5.8 million, also within the guidance, which was EUR +2 million to minus EUR 8 million.

Overall, in Germany, we achieved zero growth, like for like, + 2%, and international coming from the store closures and also the price detox and a reduction of 13% international in the top line. Spex Focus is the key driver in 2024. It's basically consisting of two elements. The one is the restructuring part, which is laying the foundation on the cost base, and the other side is the transformational part, which is basically the rebuilding of our business model and building our future. On the restructuring side, we have heavily restructured our cost base and gained efficiencies. We have rationalized our product offering and product portfolio, and we exited our offline business international. On top, we also have undergone an efficiency improvement program for all operations and also overhead with the objective to create a better leaner organization.

On the transformational side, we are basically rebuilding our business model now with a strong focus on the optical expertise, number one, on the offline business, number two, of course, with the omnichannel element as a differentiating factor, and number three, on services. Overall, this program is well underway, and I'm giving you an update here in a minute. With respect to the management, I also would like to give you an update here. As we have a change in the Supervisory Board, Tobias Krauss is going to assume the role as CEO as of April 1st, 2025, and Nicola Brandolese will take over his role as Chairman of the Supervisory Board also as of April 1st, 2025. Now, let's quickly recap the transformation and restructuring program, Spex Focus. Basically, the whole program is built on four major building blocks.

The first is the improvement of our store performance and lower discount. The second is variable cost improvement in all operations, including purchasing. The third one is store portfolio rationalization, specifically with the focus on the international stores, but also to some of the underperforming German stores. The fourth element is the right sizing and cost cutting. Overall, the program has an improvement potential of more than EUR 20 million annualized, with the majority already becoming effect in 2025. Overall, the one-offs of Spex Focus are about EUR 9 million. In order to further close the gap in the direction of cash flow neutral, we also are pursuing additional cash flow measures to support our cash flow. That is basically the overall program, and I would like to give you a quick update about where we are today.

First of all, with store portfolio rationalization, right sizing, and cost cutting, we can say that basically the objectives that we pursued are achieved. All international stores are closed by the end of the year. We closed also three German stores, which are Nürnberg, Saarbrücken, and Hamburg. We also closed down the international warehouse in Stockholm. Overall, that gave us a significant reduction together with all the other improvements in the overhead and operations, which led to a reduction in headcount by 238 headcount from 1,225- 987. That is a reduction of almost 20% that we have achieved in just six months only. The second element is the store performance improvement program, and here a key driver is the introduction of the premium private label lens Spex Pro that we introduced together in collaboration with Rodenstock.

What we can say is that overall, more than 20% of our customers choose Spex Pro as the lenses, which gives us a significant upgrade in the AOV, which is increasing from EUR 159- EUR 205 per pair of glasses. What is more important is that we are almost doubling our gross profit margin on those products. Specifically, I would also like to highlight that Spex Pro is a true driver in the offline business, as here the share is between 30%-40% of our customers choosing for Spex Pro. With strengthening our store operating network, Spex Pro is becoming a very important driver for us. The next step for us is to introduce the next upgrade to Spex Pro, which will be then a branded lens. From that perspective, the improvement program of the store performance is running well.

On top, we are improving the customer journey in the stores, optimizing the conversion and upselling process. Right now, we are introducing the eye health check, and subscription is going to come soon. A key initiative in 2024 was the discount detox and the price repositioning. In the second half of the year 2023, we were running nine pricing and discount campaigns. In 2024, just three. At the same point of time, we increased the prices for the white label products and we introduced high-value products like the Spex Pro. Altogether, we got significant improvement on the margins. Specifically, you can see that the discount rate increased overall by 6 percentage points.

With respect to gross margin, we have seen in the first half year, 2024, a reduction of 2.4% reduction or decline, whereas the second half, and this is basically due to price repositioning and discount detox, we have an increase of 0.8 percentage points. From that perspective, the discount and price repositioning program is implemented. We also adjusted and improved our commercial strategies in order to facilitate our margins and profitability. First of all, we reduced our brand portfolio and we substituted the lower end of the brands by private label, which gives us a margin uptake. We significantly reduced the complexity in our product offering and portfolio by reducing from 150- 100 brands. As I said, we eliminated predominantly the lower end of our brand portfolio and substituted it by private label.

Overall, that gives us a significant reduction in SKUs from 20,000 to approximately 12,000, which significantly reduces complexity in our operations. On top, we have implemented an online and offline pricing strategy. In omnichannel, it's a bit tricky from the pricing side, as the online channel is quite price sensitive, where the offline channel is not price sensitive at all. If you do not manage pricing right, then you inherit offline the price pressure from online. Therefore, you have to have a clear strategy, what products you are offering online with what pricing, and on the other side, what you are doing offline. That has been what we have been working on, and the online and offline pricing strategy is already implemented. We also negotiated our purchasing conditions. With some suppliers, we are still under negotiations, but it is now in the final stage.

We expect here also significant savings from the purchasing side. We increased our home try fee from EUR 6.95- EUR 9.95. The home try fee is, for us, a very important marketing tool to acquire customers. Nevertheless, the costs are significant, and therefore we decided to implement the home try fee from EUR 0- EUR 6.95 in 2024. We saw that overall, the impact on conversion was very beneficial, and therefore we decided then to further increase the home try fee to EUR 9.95. One thing is clear that the changes in our business model require a lot of training in the stores for the new processes, the new customer journey, and specifically for conversion and for upselling. This is something that we are still working on and we will be working on in 2025, as this is one of the key drivers driving up our gross profit margin.

Overall, if we look at the store performance program and all the measures that we have implemented, looking at the first two months in 2025, we can say that we have a significant uplift in overall margins in the stores by approximately 400 basis points. You can also see that basically all cohorts that we have in our portfolio have benefited from the program. Overall, if you look at the structure of our store operating network by profitability, you can see that we have achieved a significant uplift of stores that are now significantly positive and reduce the ones that are negative. We are for sure not at the end of the journey here, but it shows that in a very short period of time, we have achieved a significant improvement. Overall, as a summary, Spex Focus is an extremely important program to us.

We have implemented and executed it in a very disciplined and intense way. Overall, we are on a good way here. I would like to start with the financial update, and I would like to start with the segment reporting. First of all, how was our German business doing? We can say that the German business was overall flat. However, the like-for-like development was positive with 2 percentage points. We also have to take into consideration that our offline business was performing by far better than the online business. Online was suffering from the discount detox and price repositioning. We are basically losing on the online side, but we are gaining on the high-margin offline side. Overall, we can say that prescription glasses were slightly growing by 1%, whereas sunglasses and contact lenses were flat.

On the international business, we have a significant decline of 13%. Already 2023 was negative by 3%. Here we got basically a double hit, one from the closure of the international stores and the other from the price repositioning and discount detox. Specifically, countries like the U.K. are extremely price sensitive, and therefore we were losing business here. On the other hand, this is basically unprofitable business. Overall, if you look at the margin, the absolute margin, then the margins are increasing. Overall, this is the right direction to go to focus on the profitable business, which brings margin and let business go that is not profitable. Let's have a look at our P&L for 2024. Overall, the gross profit margin is at 49.8%, which is a reduction of 0.8 percentage points.

Here we got specifically a hit because of the discount detox and the reduced volumes, as we did not achieve the threshold for supplier bonuses in 2024. From that perspective, that was a hit in 2024 on the gross profit margin. The personal expenses are at 28.7% reported and 26.3% adjusted. You can see that the share or the portion of personal expenses are increasing in relation to the top line. We have to take into consideration that the top line is down, and therefore overall, the personal expenses improved by EUR 1 million after adjustments. On the marketing side, we have an improvement of 0.3 percentage points, both reported and adjusted. Overall, the marketing expenses reduced by EUR 1.4 million after adjustments. The other operating expenses are at 23.8% reported and 17.5% adjusted, which is an increase of 7.1 percentage points reported and 1.3 percentage points adjusted.

Of course, in the other operating expenses, we have also expenses for the restructuring transformation program. If we adjust that, then still 1.3 percentage points remain, and this is basically due to rental increases for stores and also headquarter. Overall, the EBITDA is at -11.4%, which is 9.3% down to previous year, of course, significantly impacted by the transformation and restructuring program Spex Focus. The adjusted EBITDA is down by 3.1%. That is basically due to lower sales after the discount detox and price repositioning and the effect from the year-end supplier bonuses that I have explained already. Let's have a look at our cash flow development.

At year-end 2023, we had EUR 111 million cash at hand, when at closing 2024, EUR 72 million cash and cash equivalent, which is a reduction of EUR 37 million overall, of which EUR 13 million referred to expenses, costs, and cash out from the program Spex Focus. The major items in the bridge are basically the negative EBIT, EUR -85 million negative in 2024. On the positive side, the working capital improvement of EUR 8 million, predominantly from the inventory improvement. Impairments, EUR 29 million, depreciation and amortization, EUR 31 million. That is basically the reversal of non-cash items. Provisions for HR and others, EUR 1 million, also a non-cash item.

On the negative side, the cash flow negative side, the investments, EUR 6 million, which is significantly reduced to previous year and consists of EUR 1.5 million for one new store in 2024 and all the maintenance investments in the other remaining 65 stores that we have in our portfolio. It is basically maintenance investments. Also on the IT side, a significant reduction here. Very few projects are being capitalized. Overall, approximately EUR 4.5 million. A big item in our business is rent. Under IFRS 16, it is lease liability and depreciation. On the cash side, of course, it is cash, EUR 14 million negative on the cash flow statement.

Then EUR 1 million for other financing activities gives us the EUR 72 million cash and cash equivalents in 2024. Very quickly, a breakdown on the transformation and restructuring cost. Store closures, approximately EUR 5 million. Severance payments, EUR 4 million. Then product assortment adjustments.

Basically the restructuring of our product portfolio, EUR 3 million and EUR 1 million approximately for different consulting services. Some other one-time effects, provisions for unused rental space, specifically here in the headquarter, and EUR 1 million for cost for the EGM and the AGM in 2024, specifically with a high level of legal expenses here. That is basically the overview of the cash flow development. I would like to give you a deep dive on the inventory. We have achieved improvements over the past years. Already in 2023, we show a reduction, and in 2024, a further reduction to the level of EUR 28.2 million based on the current brand portfolio reduction and SKU reduction and also inventory levels that we reduced across the border. That is basically the first step to reduce the complexity in our product portfolio and brand portfolio.

The next step is further optimization and replenishment forecasting and also inventory controls, which would give us approximately a further reduction potential of EUR 5 million. The third step is further optimization of our supply chain, specifically introducing dropshipping, which should give us additional reduction on working capital tied in inventories. That is the route to go. Now I would like to recap 2024 as the year of transition. Key driver is the transformation program, Spex Focus, with the restructuring part on the overhead side, the operations, and the store closures. This includes overall EUR 13 million of transformation cost, approximately EUR 9 million or a bit more than EUR 9 million for Spex Focus and EUR 4 million for inventories.

We expect out of the program, and this is what we have communicated from the beginning, and this is still valid, an underlying improvement of more than EUR 20 million annualized in profitability, with the majority impacting already 2025 and some continued benefits then in 2026. Revenue and profitability declined by 3%, with the international business down 13% and the German business running flat. Major impact coming from price detox, discount detox, and price repositioning. The adjusted EBITDA went down as gross, sorry, the EBITDA weakened as the gross profit went down coming from reduced sales and due to the decreased discounting. The other hit was coming from the supplier bonus, as discussed before. Cash and liquidity, the cash balance overall remains still solid with EUR 72 million, while free cash flow declined by EUR 38 million. That includes EUR 13 million of one times from the Spex Focus program.

What is important now in 2025 onwards is that we are changing the guidance KPI from adjusted EBITDA to EBIT. That gives our investors the full view on the business and the full transparency. That is basically full transparency, the basis for value creation in the future. That is basically 2024. Now I would like to give you an outlook to 2025. 2025 is basically the year where we are creating the basis for sustainable and profitable growth in the future. Here we will continue with our program, Spex Focus, with three major pillars. First of all, further improving on the cost structure and operational efficiency. The second pillar, working on store profitability. You have seen already the improvements in our store portfolio, and this is the work that we are continuing now in 2025.

That gives us then the possibility to invest in new stores in 2026 onwards, once we have a sufficient level of profitability that creates cash flow for further investments in our business 2026 onwards. One key element here is the optical expertise that we are continuing to build up and to strengthen in our business. If you look at the store network, we plan for further efficiencies in the stores. We are implementing, for example, cashless stores. Twenty-one additional stores will become fully cashless from February onwards, and the remaining stores will also become cashless at a certain period of time. On top, we streamlined the governance. We took out one management layer, the multi-store manager. That is a contribution to further efficiencies in the store network. What is extremely important in the stores is the efficiency of the cell.

This is something where we are intensively working on. One important step is now that we implemented the analysis process, which is a systematic process in the beginning when we start the dialogue with the customers to really evaluate what exactly the needs of the customers are. This is then basically the basis to, number one, offer the best possible product, and number two, to also sell a second or even a third pair of glasses for different applications, such as, "I need to drive in a car. I need a special pair of glasses. I am working 10 hours a day on a screen, so I need a pair of working glasses." This is a very important process now because it is the best way to grow our business. The customer is already in the store, there is no more marketing cost related to that.

Therefore, the second pair or the third pair is a true profit and sales booster. That is why it is in the core of our efficiency program in the stores this year. First metrics, this is just January and February, of course. Like for like, we grew 2%, even though we increased significantly prices and reduced discounts by 500 basis points. That means we are growing, and at the same point of time, we are growing our margin. This is exactly the way we want to drive our business forward. We are changing our business model from the past, where we are positioned as an online player, as a player that is focused on style and on brands, where the business and the whole industry is making the money is on the optical side and on the offline side.

It is a fundamental transformation that we are undergoing in 2025 onwards. Here, I just would like to recap what our online story was. At the end, it was the idea to disrupt the market selling optical products online and not in the stores. Therefore, we inherited a relatively young population buying with Mister Spex, buying online, later also offline. The major point here is that the whole industry is making the money with multifocal glasses. This is the cohort, 45- 59-year-old people. They need multifocal glasses. This is basically where the margin is. This is basically where the profit is. Therefore, this is the core of the transformation to focus on the optical expertise, number one, and number two, on the offline business supported by Omnichannel features. This is the journey that we are undergoing.

Our objective is to become the best optician in the market with the best optical expertise, with the best offering of interesting styles and products and brands, with the best customer journey. That is the ease component and with the best value that you get for the money. That is basically our positioning we are working on. In 2024, we already started with a lens assortment extended by the Spex Pro. In 2025, we will implement the next level, which will be a branded or co-branded lens. That is not yet fully clear, but it will be the next level of quality that we are offering in terms of lenses in the stores and online. We are right about to implement the eye health check. I am coming to that in a minute. This is a very important potential driver for our business and a very interesting tool.

I'm going to explain it in a minute. We are also working on subscription as a new payment model and service model for our customers. We are not far away from getting into the market here too. This is basically the optical expertise. Ease and style is still important for us as a differentiated factor. We are working on the best curated assortment, which is the most attractive assortment of brands and products. At the same point of time, we are going to keep the best omnichannel experience. All of that, supported by operational efficiency gains, we are working on driving the eye exam, which is an important lever to drive sales in the stores.

We are extremely intensively working on opticians as our brand promise to be the optician for your life requires the optical expertise in the stores and other parts of our business. Therefore, the opticians are extremely important. We are recruiting here. We are working on efficiencies, for example, customer service automation, implementing AI bots and other technologies that are available to further improve our efficiency here. The next step is also on the logistics side, for example, dropshipping and other optimization potentials that we have on logistics. Coming to the eye health check. This is really a very interesting part of the business and a very important offering. As the population is number one aging and it is undercared on the vision side. It takes a long time until you get your appointment at your doctor.

From that perspective, many people do not go on a regular basis to an eye check. This is basically the opportunity that we have with our eye health check that we are offering in our stores. It works very simply. We have a tool, a device, which basically screens the retina. We are measuring the eye pressure. All the data is then transferred to a specialist and evaluated by an optician, for example, the Charité here in Berlin. I did it myself, and I was really amazed. First of all, how quickly it went, 10 minutes. I went in the store, I did the eye health check. After one hour, I had the result. I was very happy that my eyes are fine. That is number one.

Number two, it was the best explanation of the status of my eye health that I've ever seen before. From that perspective, that was really an excellent service. That is a true driver, driving people to the store and convert business into margin and profits. First metrics, we have seven pilot stores. We did approximately 400 eye health checks since December 2024. You have to imagine that 16% of the tests found anomalies in the age of 39- 55. Here, it's about 31%. It's a high percentage of people that don't know that they have an issue with their vision. There is one specific case. It's a young man, 25 years old. He went to the store, did the eye check, and they found some severe issues that would have led to being blind in the near future.

This is also from a purpose perspective for us internally, a strong purpose. People are really extremely engaged driving eye health check and the business forward. From that perspective, internally and externally, this is a very promising service that we are going to offer. Now let's have a look at the guidance 2025. 2025 will still be impacted from discount detox and price repositioning. Overall, we expect revenues to be down by 5-10% versus 2024. Specifically, the first half year will suffer. For the second half of the year, we expect improvements on the basis of the program, Spex Focus, that we are implementing. That is the revenue side.

On the EBIT side, we plan a significant improvement compared to 2024 and also 2023 of EUR 54 million-EUR 75 million related to 2024 EBIT and EUR 17 million-EUR 38 million referring to the 2023 EBIT. Just a quick bridge from 2024 to the guidance 2025. We had impairments of EUR 29 million in 2024 for different assets in our balance sheet. This is not going to happen again in 2025. That will be eliminated. The remaining part of the improvement is basically gross-profit improvement, reduction of marketing expenses, and further efficiency gains. From that perspective, significant improvement on the EBIT side in 2025, whereas on the revenue side, it's going to be still a year of transition implementing Spex Focus as our program. Let me conclude our presentation today. 2024 was a hard year for Mister Spex, and it was a year of transition.

We launched Spex Focus as a program, and we let more than 200 of our colleagues go. We significantly restructured our business, closed down stores, warehouses, and improved operations. This included EUR 13 million of transformation costs, primarily from those store closures and overhead reductions. Net revenue declined by guidance 2025. The net revenues decline, or we expect net revenues to decline by 5%-10%, whereas EBIT margin will be between -5% and -15%, which gives us a significant improvement of EUR 54-EUR 75 million compared to 2024 numbers. Cash and cash equivalents are expected at the level of EUR 65 million plus minus 5. Looking ahead, quarter one on the top line, we expect the trend of Q4 to continue while we are going to see slight improvements on gross profit margins on the other hand for Q1.

Overall, we will continue in 2025 our program, Spex Focus, as I have outlined. Specifically in the first half of the year, we're going to see specifically the impact from discount detox and price repositioning. That is basically a quick overview of the year 2025. Now let's quickly look ahead on the reporting and conferences. 8th of May, Q1 2025 financial results. 28th of August, half-year results. 13th of November, Q3 2025 financial results and conferences is the Equity Forum from 12th- 14th of May. I'm looking forward to seeing quite a few of you then on the road in 2025. Thank you for joining. I think we are ready for Q&A.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question- and- answer session.

If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, as a reminder, that is to press star one followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. If you are called upon to ask a question and are listening via loudspeaker on your device, please pick up your handset and ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking your question. We will pause for a moment to compile the Q&A roster. It seems that we have no questions on the conference line. I would now like to turn the call back over to Stephan. Please go ahead.

Irina Zhurba
Head of Investor Relations, Mister Spex SE

Thank you very much. We noticed one analyst posting a question in the chat in the Q&A, so I will quickly read it. Good morning, Irina and Stephan. I have three questions, please.

Could you please give more color on some KPIs regarding eye health check, conversion rates, our customers shifting to single vision lenses, progressive lenses, Spex Pro? Number two, price positioning. How is Mister Spex positioning vis-à-vis the rest of the German eyewear market, which seemed to be quite promotional in Q4? Question number three, full year 2025 outlook. What are your expectations regarding personnel expenses, labor inflation, pro forma, and marketing investments? Cedric, Bryan Garnier.

Stephan Schulz-Gohritz
CFO, Mister Spex SE

Okay. KPIs regarding the eye health check. It's a bit early to talk about KPIs with respect to the eye health check. We have just conducted 400 of eye health checks in seven stores. The next step is now to roll out the equipment and facility to all the stores that we have. I have a hypothesis that the eye health check is going to drive traffic and also going to drive conversion.

This is something we are going to measure, but we are not yet ready to show any KPIs here. It's just too early. The second question was price positioning vision. Price positioning. Price positioning. We, of course, did some benchmarking, our prices, products versus competition. Overall, what we can say is if we compare our products to our main peer, Fielmann, Apollo, and others, we are, I would say, a bit more economic overall, even though we are now doing the pricing discount. The starting point where we started discounts is different. From that perspective, if we compare net net, we are still, even though we are doing now the price discount, attractive from the pricing perspective compared to our main peers, Fielmann and Apollo. The third question was.

Irina Zhurba
Head of Investor Relations, Mister Spex SE

The outlook, what are your expectations regarding personnel expense, labor inflation, pro forma, and marketing investments, so kind of the other P&L lines?

Stephan Schulz-Gohritz
CFO, Mister Spex SE

Okay. Yeah, labor inflation, I would say something between 2%-3% maybe. Of course, we are extremely reluctant in giving salary increases. Basically, there is no salary increases at Mister Spex except high performance or specific cases that we have to. Overall, we are extremely defensive on salary increases overall. Of course, the headcount reduction will lead to a reduction of our personnel expenses. I expect a reduction of approximately 10%.

Irina Zhurba
Head of Investor Relations, Mister Spex SE

Correct. The marketing investments, kind of overall operating expenses?

Marketing expenses, other operating expenses, I would expect approximately -5% to -8%.

Great. I think there are no more questions. Stephan, closing remarks?

Stephan Schulz-Gohritz
CFO, Mister Spex SE

Closing remarks. Thank you for joining our presentation this morning.

It is clear that it was a challenging year for 2025 for Mister Spex. It was a year where we have intensively worked on our business model, where we have intensively worked on our cost base and created the foundation for sustainable and profitable growth. The first half of the year will still be impacted by Spex Focus, but we are still working and implementing with all the discipline and all the energy. From 2026 onwards, we expect to grow profitably into the future. Thanks for coming and have a nice day.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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