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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Jul 21, 2023

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Good morning, everyone, and a warm welcome to Oriola's Q2 results webcast. I am Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm from Oriola's Investor Relations. With me today, I have our CEO, Katarina Gabrielson, and CFO, Timo Leinonen.

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

Hello.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

After the presentation, we open up for your questions. You may send in your questions through the chat already during the presentation. Kindly note that we are recording this webcast, and the on-demand version will be available on our website later today. Before handing over to Katarina, here is the customary disclaimer that we all should be aware of. Now, without further ado, Katarina, please go ahead.

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

Thank you, Tua. Good morning, and welcome everyone also on my behalf. Today, we will discuss our second quarter results. I will start with the highlights and connections, and comments on the operating environment, and then Timo will take you through the financials. Before the question and answers, I will give a couple of closing remarks. Let's start with the highlights. I'm very pleased to say that the quarter two, in quarter two, our distribution business has performed very well with the stable market shares. This has supported our solid net sales growth of 3% to EUR 407 million, measured in constant currency. Profitability in the second quarter declined from the previous year to EUR 3.4 million. This decline was due to the low volumes in the Swedish dose dispensing business.

When looking at the cost side, we can see that our operating expenses were below last year's level. We have been restructuring the Swedish dose business to minimize costs, and our efficiency in the Swedish operations has improved year-on-year. In the second quarter, we booked a positive contribution of EUR 0.2 million from Kronans Apotek. The integration has proceeded, which brings synergies, savings, and the customer inflow in the pharmacies was good in the second quarter. Like discussed in connection with the quarter one report, we have a clear strategic direction to focus on our core business and the profitability improvement in the core business. Our strength is in the distribution business, which has performed strongly in the first half, and where we have new customer onboarding in the second half of this year.

On top of this, we also continue to focus on the long-term transformation of the company, which I will comment on in the closing remarks. A few words about the operating environment. To start with, we saw that the overall market demand in Q2 was good, both in Sweden and Finland. Consumer confidence is currently at a very weak level due to cost inflation and raising interest rates, as well as the weak Swedish krona in Sweden is also affecting. Nevertheless, this economic uncertainty or weak consumer confidence has not impacted the pharmaceutical market. Typically, in an economic downturn, the traded goods would be impacted first, and then the over-the-counter product that you also name OTC. The availability of some pharmaceuticals, which has been an issue since the last year, saw a slightly improvement during the second quarter, but still the challenge remains.

On the cost side, energy and fuel prices have stabilized, just like the overall cost inflation, but on a high level. Let's move on to look at the market development. The pharmaceutical wholesale market contributed a healthy growth, both in Sweden and Finland. In value and local currency, the market in Sweden grew by 10%, and in Finland by 3%. Our market share was stable year over year. In Sweden, we had a market share of 45%, and in Finland of 44%. In dose dispensing, the total market size in Sweden increased by 10,000 patients, while the markets in Finland was flat at 100,000 patients. As communicated earlier, we are now at a low point with regards number of patients in Svensk dos business, and serve currently some 11,000 patients, while the volume in Finland has remained flat at 30,000 patients.

The decline in Sweden is related to the tenders that we lost last year. The regional customers in Sweden organize public tender processes from time to time, and we continue to participate in these. The Swedish dose dispensing business continues also to focus on new customer segments to develop the business, and this is already visible in new contracts. There will be no fast recovery back to high volumes. We estimate to continue with this level of patients in quarter three and quarter four. Significant volumes growth is a long-term target. With this, I'm ready with my first part and would like to hand over to Timo. Please.

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

Thank you, Katarina, and good morning from my part as well. When going to the finances, let's start with our profit and loss account and invoicing net sales and adjusted EBIT. As Katarina already mentioned, so solid performance in distribution businesses and significant currency impact in our invoicing and net sales. When seeing in constant currency, invoicing was growing 6%, and growth was mainly coming from our volume business, distribution of medicines. When going to the net sales, it was declined because of dose dispensing business and currency fluctuation, but grew 3% in constant currency. Adjusted EBIT declined as expected to EUR 3.4 million due to dose dispensing business, and more closely about EBIT on next page.

If seeing adjusted EBIT, we were unfortunately behind last year's figures in second quarter and year to date as well. If just seeing kind of technical changes, impact of weak Swedish crown was EUR 400,000 during the whole first half of the year, compared to numbers in constant currency. Other thing, we had a EUR 0.2 million adjusted item related to operational changes in companies. Having said that, I have to mention that decline in EBIT came solely from dose dispensing business, and the rest of the business portfolio as a whole improved their profitability. To improve our profitability, we have different actions going on, including strict cost control and price increases in different services and, of course, the efficiency in operations in general.

When going lower to the profit of the period, profit for the period declined from the previous year to EUR 1 million. Profit was burdened, of course, by the lower EBIT, as mentioned before, and it came mainly from, or solely from Svensk dos. Of course, the rise in interest rates had an impact on our profit for the period. Having said that, and also what you can read from the report, we booked a positive contribution for the first time from Kronans Apotek after the merger in last October by EUR 200,000, compared to first quarter, 500... minus EUR 500,000 and EUR 2.8 million during the last quarter of 2022. As said in the report, we made a decrease in fair value of Dr.

Drägerwerk stock valuation because of the fair value booking model, booking had no impact whatsoever on profit and loss account. As the profit of the period declined EPS as well. When coming to the cash flow, in Q2, cash flow from operations were positive by EUR 90 million. Having said before as well, the most material thing is the fluctuation in net working capital in our cash flow, now the net working capital is on long-term average level. Having said that, though, we see that it is kind of normalized from the very good end of 2022. When seeing the cash flow as the whole, we have to take into account that we paid dividends of EUR 10.9 million during the Q2, which is obviously seen in our cash position as well.

Having said that, liquidity remained and cash position remained good during the whole second quarter of the year. When coming to the net debt level, as I said already before, I see that net debt level now is on the normalized level after the exceptionally good year end on 2022. Net debt was EUR 9 million at the end of the June. The most important thing, as said in the cash flow as well, is the fluctuation of the, of our net working capital, which affects to the, to the cash position in that sense.

Just to inform that if we, if you are seeing the comparable number from the last year, it include trade receivables and cash position also from the discontinued operations, which were at the end of June 2022. Trade receivables were EUR 66.4 million, they had cash in EUR 42.5 million in our balances during that time. When seeing the balance sheet as a general, I see that it remains strong. We have room to invest if needed. Of course, it's quite stable, excluding the fluctuation of net working capital, which is normal and was mentioned before as well. We have a long-term target to have our adjusted gearing lower than 70%.

When you are taking into account that sell, so trade receivables are kind of seen as a net debt or debt item. The comparable number for that one was around 50, so we were well in line in our long-term target. When talking about that decrease of the valuation of Drägerwerk shares, so that EUR 19.5 million is visible in long-term assets, in the balance sheets or asset side, and then in the equity of the other side of the balance. Just to mention that Oriola's ownership in the shares of Drägerwerk has not changed during the reporting period, only the valuation due to fair value valuation method. A few words about Kronans Apotek, meaning official name, Swedish Pharmacy Holding AB.

The net sales was to the second quarter, roughly EUR 290 million, and it was slightly below the last year's level. Of course, weak Swedish crown impacted also to this reported number. EBITA was EUR 3.6 million compared to EUR 1.7 million in the first quarter of this year, so significant improvement there. Seeing the adjusted EBIT was EUR 2.3 million compared to 0 in the first quarter, and minus EUR 2.8 million in the fourth quarter of last year. We see the improvement there as well. The realized synergies for the second quarter was EUR 2.5 million.

We see that the integration of the company since Kronans Apotek is going in the right direction. Of course, the profitability is improving after a little bit slower the start than expected when the JV was formed. As said before as well, we booked EUR 200,000 positive contribution from the shareholding to our profit and loss account, compared to minus EUR 500,000 in the second, first quarter, and minus EUR 2.8 million in the fourth quarter. Basically, in that sense, we are improving as well. Having said that, so I have to remind that we are committed in the long-term ownership, and we see that on the long term, this will bring value to our shareholders. Finally, coming to our outlook of 2022 to 2023.

Our guidance remain unchanged, and we expect that adjusted EBIT is to remain on the same level as 2022. As Katarina also mentioned, at the moment, we are all at the lowest point in dose speed and number of patient, and we expect it to remain roughly at the same level now. As we stated before as well, for the decline in the profitability came solely in the beginning of the year from dose dispensing business. It means that all the other businesses has been improved. What in general worries us is that if Swedish crown exchange rate is continuing to weakening, of course, it has an effect to our reported numbers.

Not that much in, in real business, because most of the cost and, and, sales are done in Sweden, in Swedish crowns. Also, we are kind of monitoring quite closely the consumer confidence, what is happening, especially in Sweden. If we are thinking of the positive things, what we see, when we look forward, we expect that pharmaceutical distribution market is continuing to grow. As Katarina mentioned before as well, our focus and strength is in distribution business, and it has been performing strongly during the first half of the year as well. Second half of the year will be supported by the new customers we have won, and they are starting to bring revenues as well during the second half of the year.

We also have implemented some price increases in Q2 and during the beginning of the year, and we are continuing to do so forward, or going forward as well, and also in the businesses, so we are maintaining a strict cost control throughout the company. Based on those, so we think that, despite of the dose dispensing business, where we have had challenges and we have challenges, so basically, the other businesses are improving. That's roughly about the numbers. Now back to Katarina.

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

Thank you, Timo. Before we conclude the presentation, first, a brief update on the sustainability. Our sustainability work has been guided by ambitious long-term goals and a systematic approach to development. Therefore, I'm really happy about the latest achievement in the EcoVadis assessments that we have got. We have been awarded the gold medal in this rating, and the result places us among the top five performing companies worldwide. In the previous assessment in 2021, we got the silver medal, so our performance has improved. This is a great recognition and demonstrates our commitment to sustainability. The regulations for sustainability reporting are also getting stricter, both in EU and on a global level. The new reporting standards, which make sustainability reporting mandatory, are expected to be published in August, and we are already preparing to be compliant in 2025.

Last, a few words on our strategic direction and key priorities. This is a recap of what we said in connection with the first quarter report, I feel that this is an important message for us to convey. We have a clear strategic direction. We focus on our core business and profitability improvement. Our strategy work continues with scenario work on our portfolio value-added smaller businesses, as well as the core businesses. To ensure sustainable growth and shareholder value, we are further developing our commercial and supply chain excellence while ensuring profitability, efficiency, and collaborative culture. As you might remember, our commercial operating model focuses on collaboration across the markets, I'm very, very pleased that we are on the right path.

We have seen good progress with the signing of new distribution contracts onboarding during the second half of this year, as Timo also mentioned. In addition to this, we have done several actions to enhance our key priorities. We have strengthened our commercial capabilities by sale trainings, focusing on account management to support a unified customer experience. We have also implemented a new customer segmentation, which will help us to focus and increase our understanding of how we can create relevance and growth. In supply chain, we have continued to work on simplifying and harmonizing our processes, including core IT systems. In addition, we have improved efficiency in deliveries through improved demand, supply planning, and tighter collaboration with the sales teams. Another priority is to develop a strong culture, and during the second quarter, we engaged with our...

all our people in Sweden and Finland to renew Oriola's value description to form a strong base for a collaborative culture. Lastly, now, in this presentation, I want to give you a summary of our second quarter. Our net sales grew by 3% in constant currency. This growth was driven by our core business, the distribution of pharmaceuticals and traded goods. Following a good market growth and stable market share, we saw solid development in both Sweden and Finland. Profitability was burdened by Swedish dose business, where the volumes have now reached the lowest point. On the cost side, our operating expenses were below last year's level. We have adjusted the cost base in dose business by restructuring, improved efficiency in Swedish operations, and maintained strict cost control. Our guidance remained unchanged. We expect the pharmaceutical distribution market to continue to grow. Our strength is in the distribution business.

That has performed strongly during the first half of the year, and where we have new customers onboarding during the second half. We continue with price increases and strict cost control to mitigate the high cost inflation. With this, we are ready now with the presentation and open up for your questions. I think there has come some questions to one. Please, Timo, if you join me.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Certainly, we have a number of questions, and if there's anyone, any more questions coming in, let's take them as well. Like we did in the Q1 webcast, I think we start with the questions concerning the joint venture.

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

Okay.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

We move on to the questions concerning Oriola. There are questions related to the Kronans Apotek and their numbers. Adjusted EBITA of JV for H1 2023 was EUR 5 million, which is EUR 10 million less than EBITA of the joint companies in H1 2022, when it was EUR 15 million. What kind of operative costs have increased by EUR 10 million?

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

Well, if I start, so basically, of course, there is quite a lot of integration work going on, and that means that basically when coming to IT systems in general, kind of forming the new company, so there is kind of overlapping costs, which are coming down as we see in the synergies as well. Of course, at the beginning of the year, so basically, the basic business has been on the lower profitability level than it used to be before, and that is improving as well.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Okay.

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

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Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

When do you expect JV to reach EBITA level of joint companies EUR 30 million in 2022?

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

stated before, we are not giving comment on the kind of forward looking on JV, and that's the question that has to be raised with the management of the Kronans Apotek.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Relating to this, when are you expecting more material improvement in JV's profitability?

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

Yeah-

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

... You answered that.

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

The same question with that one as well.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Yeah. Good. What kind of costs are classified as one-time costs in JV?

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

Basically what they are so, only seeing that is going to the integration, for example, when they have to integrate the IT systems, and then there has been kind of a double premises cost and that kind of thing. When they are kind of closing down certain premises and basically they are not using it anymore, so that kind of cost, but not as long as they are using all the premises. Basically kind of normal integration or overlapping costs in that sense, which is generated when they are doing the integration work.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Okay. Relating to this, how do you calculate synergies generated on JV level? Is it included directly in Oriola's P&L, or is it reflected in JV's EBITDA?

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

It's reflected solely in JV's P&LA. We are not calculating, we are coming, taking kind of official numbers from the profit and loss account, and half of that is coming as a contribution from our profit and loss. Which means that when we are kind of booking the positive contribution, taking out all the kind of, or including all the kind of one-off items and that kind of things in kind of reported profit and loss account. It has had a positive, or the kind of net profit has been profit positive during Q2.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Okay, for the time being, the last question.

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

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Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

... To JV. Has JV any other debts than IFRS 16 debts in its net debt amount? If yes, what kind of debts and how much?

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

They are having other debts as well, kind of normal, kind of bank loans and stuff, which we kind of transferred from our part as well to the JV when it was formed. Then, of course, they are kind of using an asset, they are also selling or financing their activities by selling trade receivables and so on. Basically, we are not disclosing any more, kind of, on details what they are having there, but there is other debts as well than just IFRS.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

All right, thank you. We move on to questions related to Oriola. There are a couple of questions which are overlapping, so I'm trying to combine those while we take the questions. There's questions relating to the new customers. Are your new customers starting to contribute your sales and EBIT already in Q3 or more in Q4? Relating to this, there is another question: How much new customers will support invoicing-

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

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Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

... In H2? Katarina.

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

There is customers coming in both Q3 and Q4. Of course, since there is also long lead times on this one, you can say that when you start to work, that also means that in the end of the year there will be even more than in Q3, but also already in Q3. The numbers we are not disclosing because we haven't really told the contract and so on, but we will come back and hopefully be able to show a little bit more about this one after vacation period.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

All right. Thank you. Then, Katarina, would you like to also comment on the, how much the distribution sales increased during H2?

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

We are not, like, doing this on a segment basis, but what we can say is that distribution in Sweden and Finland both grew. If you remember, when we showed the market share in quarter one, we had lowered our market share, and now we are on par with last year. That means, of course, that we have been growing, especially in Sweden, compared to where we were in the beginning of the year.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

All right, thank you. We move on to the EBIT. What was the negative EBIT impact from Swedish Dose Dispensing in Q2? Following cost restructuring, are you able to reach break-even level in the business?

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

As said, we are not commenting kind of numbers for our different businesses. Having said that, the impact was significant as such, basically all kind of losses compared to the last year came from dose business.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Thank you. There is a question on the debt side: Has Oriola any plans to reorganize its debts to reduce net interests in a situation where there is actually no debt, but still high net interests?

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

To comment that, obviously, we have also strategy work going on, and part of the strategy work is to optimize our balance sheet. Our kind of balance sheet structure is coming still from the time when we had Kronans Apotek as a part of the Oriola. Clear plans is to go that through during the second half of this year, and of course, start the actions if needed and when needed.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Okay, thank you. There are questions relating to the guidance. You are EUR 3.3 million below 2022 adjusted EBIT level after H1. What are the main drivers behind expected profit improvement during H2 if Swedish dose dispensing volumes will remain low in H2?

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

We said before, we have a good performance and also new customers coming in the volume businesses that we have. Our core business is the distribution of pharmaceutical and assortment business. That is something that we are calculating that it will continue. We can also see that the market is growing in these areas, and that in combination with price increases and also cost control, is something that we are taking into this calculation. Of course, when we look at the numbers, we are also taking into account now that we are losing dose dispensing. That will stay on the level that we have now for the quarter three and quarter four. I don't know if you want to add something, Timo?

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

No.

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

No?

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

Good

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Follow up on the guidance. Does your guidance imply that you do not expect a weaker consumer confidence to impact your numbers? If so, why do you think a weaker consumer confidence will not impact traded goods, et cetera, et cetera?

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

If you look at consumer confidence, we are in a market where people prioritize medicines. If you are sick, you normally want to have the medicines. In that case, we are in a stable market. Yes, traded goods especially can be impacted. What we normally see with traded goods is that you buy a little bit cheaper products, and for us, it can affect to some extent on the profitability and sales, but we are also in a business where we sell as a service. We are a service provider in this aspect, and that means that it doesn't matter so much for us about the volumes, or, like, the price on the products that we sell, since we are invoicing more like as a service for the transportation and picking and packing. That's the reason.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

Okay, we have one more question. Just a reminder that if there's any questions that you would like to ask us, please send us through the chat. There's a question on the M&A. Katarina mentioned potential growth via M&A within pharmacy business. Do you plan M&A in Sweden, other Nordic countries, or in broader Europe?

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

This is something that we mentioned first time, in fact, already in quarter one. I will not comment it exactly where we are looking and what we are looking on, because this is very, like, early in our area right now and our markets. The change is that we are now open to look in this kind of direction instead of just keeping the business that we have or divesting the business. That's a little bit the message that we want to send to you, and when we are ready to go more further into it, we will come back to you.

Tua Stenius-Örnhjelm
Vice President, Communications and Sustainability, Oriola

All right. Thank you, Katarina and Timo. This was now the end of the Q&A, and we are ready with this event. Just a reminder, our next scheduled event is the Q3 interim report that we will publish on 31st of October. In the meanwhile, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us. Thank you, everyone, for joining today, and we wish you all a good rest of the summer.

Katarina Gabrielson
President and CEO, Oriola

Thank you.

Timo Leinonen
CFO, Oriola

Thank you. Bye.

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