Thank you for holding, and welcome to the Galaxy Entertainment Group management update for the third quarter results of 2021. Joining us today are Mr. Michael Mecca, GEG Board Non-Executive Director, Mr. Robert Drake, Group CFO, Mr. Roland To, Senior Director of Strategic Planning, and Mr. Peter Caveny, Assistant Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. At this time, all participants' lines are in listen-only mode. The presentation will be followed by a question-and-answer session, and instructions will be provided at that time. I would now like to pass to Mr. Drake for a presentation. Mr. Drake, please go ahead. Thank you.
That's great, operator. Greetings, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the update on GEG's Q3 2021 results. The GEG team joining me here on today's call include Mike Mecca, a member of the GEG Board of Directors, Roland To, Senior Director of Strategic Planning, and Peter Caveny, Assistant Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Copies of our media release, stock exchange announcement, and PowerPoint presentation are available on our website, which also include our customary disclaimers. On behalf of our chairman, Dr. Lui, Francis Lui, and the entire GEG family, we greatly appreciate everyone's continued contributions and sacrifices throughout the pandemic, as well as our heartfelt sympathies to everyone globally who have been impacted by this crisis.
We are confident that the world, including Greater China, will successfully navigate through the ups and downs of the pandemic in the near term, where we remain upbeat and positive that brighter days are indeed ahead, especially as vaccination rates continue to rise. As you know, Macau recently experienced a COVID-19 outbreak in late September, where the Macau government demonstrated yet again its ability to react incredibly swiftly to minimize public health and safety risks, as they have throughout the entire crisis. We again salute the Macau government for its proactive, decisive, and effective leadership during the pandemic. Despite sporadic outbreaks in Greater China in 2021, Macau has demonstrated an ability to bounce back quickly in a choppy market, while at the same time, supporting the all-important public policies, which is certainly cause for optimism.
Believe it or not, the month of October was a prime example of this. No one ever said this would be easy or that the recovery would be like a light switch or a straight line. We have mentioned many times before, we continue to believe that the Macau market recovery will be gradual, managed, and choppy in the near term, where we remain confident as ever in its medium and long-term future. To be clear, GEG remains as committed as ever to health and safety of the community, our team members, and our guests, as well as the economic and social stability of Macau, where the continued containment of the virus remains the highest priority. There was also a very important and highly anticipated regulatory event in Macau during the third quarter.
In mid-September, the Macau government launched a 45-day public consultation program on revising the Macau gaming law, which has not been updated in 20 years and is arguably the precursor to the forthcoming concession tendering process. The key points listed in the consultation paper were not a surprise to those who closely follow Macau. We believe that the suggested proposals, if implemented, would improve the regulatory oversight of the industry, increase the sector's transparency, and secure the long-term viability of Macau's most important economic pillar. We are waiting for an update about the revised gaming law as well as the concession reissuance process just like everyone else.
Let's move on to our Q3 2021 performance, where our effective cost control efforts continued to yield results in a choppy revenue environment, while at the same time, we continued to make progress with our enhancement project at our existing properties as well as with our game-changing development project in Cotai Phases Three and Four. GEG's Q3 2021 EBITDA improved by HKD 1.4 billion year-over-year from a HKD 900 million loss in 2020 to a positive HKD 500 million in 2021, and declined 56% sequentially due to the impact of the highly publicized COVID-19 outbreaks on visitation and revenue. The group also played unlucky in Q3 2021, which reduced EBITDA by HKD 47 million, as playing unlucky in mass was partially offset by playing lucky in VIP.
As a reminder, we also played lucky in Q2 2021, which improved EBITDA by HKD 74 million and modestly unlucky in Q3 2020. If you adjust for luck, normalized EBITDA improved by HKD 1.5 billion year-on-year and declined 48% quarter-on-quarter. We mentioned earlier that there was some cause for optimism during a choppy third quarter where our mall operations delivered another solid performance despite significant disruption during the quarter due to COVID-19 outbreaks. We continued to enhance our mall offerings by introducing highly recognizable world-class brands. This is certainly an important KPI which indicates healthy demand and bodes well for an overall market recovery. We also continue to work hard at managing our cost structure and will continue to deliver operating leverage, especially as business gradually improves.
To that end, our Macau OPEX burn rate has declined by 32% from approximately $3.4 million per day under normal operating conditions and declined 4% in Q3 2021 to the $2.3 million range. We would like to pause here, like we have previously, and make a very important point on fiscal management, especially during these challenging times. We certainly acknowledge that OPEX burn rate is an important part of the expense equation, but there's certainly more to the overall cost picture than that. Daily cash burn is more indicative of the cost structure as it includes interest expense.
We are very fortunate that we are the only concessionaire in Macau that generates net interest income, not interest expense. In fact, our net interest income also remained virtually unchanged again in Q3 2021 at approximately $300,000 per day. If you deduct the $300,000 per day of interest income from the $2.3 million per day in OPEX burn, you get approximately $2 million per day in cash burn, excluding CapEx. It's a powerful example of how conservative balance sheet management really pays in challenging periods in general, and in our case, significantly differentiates us from the competition, as well as contributes to making prudent decisions were in the long-term best interest of the company.
We would like to thank everyone on the GEG team, as well as our valued suppliers who continue to support the company in these difficult times by contributing to our cost management programs. Everyone's support has truly been inspiring. We have also contributed HKD millions to the COVID-19 relief efforts to support the community as we have previously reported. Let's move on to our development update beginning in Cotai, where we continue to invest in Macau as well as Galaxy's future. You may recall that back in early March 2021, we announced that we will be welcoming of course the legendary Raffles brand to Macau with Raffles at Galaxy Macau, which will feature a 450 all-suite tower and is targeted to open when market conditions improve during 2022.
We intend to follow this with the opening of the Galaxy International Convention Center in Andaz Macau in anticipation of the recovery of the MICE and entertainment markets. Finally, we are proceeding with the construction of Cotai Phase Four, Macau's only next-generation integrated resort, which will complete our ecosystem in Cotai. As you can see, we remain highly confident about the future of Macau as we continue to invest literally billions of HKD into our business. Our Cotai development activities, along with our existing property initiatives, also demonstrate our support of Macau during the pandemic by continuing to invest in the economy, providing jobs, and supporting local SMEs, as well as our long-term commitment to help Macau achieve its vision of becoming a world center of tourism and leisure.
Next up is Hengqin in the Greater Bay Area, where Macao and Hengqin's integration into the GBA continued with a monumental announcement during the third quarter. In September 2021, the Macao and Guangdong governments announced the formation of the management committee of the Guangdong-Macao In-Depth Cooperation Zone in Hengqin, which will be led by Macao's CE and Guangdong's governor. This is exciting news indeed and signals strong support from the central government for Macao, Hengqin, and the rest of the GBA. We continue to pursue our project in Hengqin and are also expanding our focus to potentially include opportunities within the rapidly expanding Greater Bay Area. Finally, Japan, where we continue to pursue opportunities with our partner, SBM Monaco. We'll continue to update you on these initiatives and situations as we move forward.
Let's move on to our balance sheet, which continues to remain strong, liquid, and virtually unlevered. Cash and liquid investments decreased from HKD 43 billion at the end of June to HKD 38.4 billion at September 30, 2021. Our net cash position declined from HKD 31.6 billion to HKD 27.8 billion, primarily due to investing in our development projects, including Cotai Phases Three and Four, a decrease in the value of our Wynn Resorts shares, and reduction in our gaming chip liability. Total debt declined from HKD 11.4 billion to HKD 10.6 billion, which primarily reflects HKD 10.2 billion of borrowings associated with our treasury yield and cash enhancement initiative. Our core borrowings remain virtually unchanged between HKD 400 million and HKD 500 million, which includes zero debt associated with our Macau operations. Yes, to be clear, we said zero debt with our Macau operations.
Moving on to our outlook, where we continue to remain optimistic that Macao's gradual and managed recovery will continue despite the recent choppiness, especially with the recent increases in vaccination rates. Greater China continues to remain diligent in effectively containing COVID-19 outbreaks and continue to execute vaccination programs, then we are very confident that Macao will continue to navigate through the pandemic. Furthermore, we are particularly pleased with the significant improvement in infrastructure in Q3. In early September, the Qingmao Checkpoint commenced operation, which has the capacity to process up to an additional 200,000 visitor crossings per day via 50 inbound and 50 outbound automated inspection channels. Again, this represents yet another positive signal from the central government for the long-term support of Macao.
We are also encouraged that we see strong signs of healthy demand and are quite confident that the leisure and tourism sector will bounce back. In the interim, we remain well capitalized to invest in our development initiatives, including our game-changing Cotai Phases Three and Four, as the fundamentals of Macao and our operating business continue to improve. We also remain upbeat and very positive about the long-term prospects for Macao and the Greater Bay Area, where the underlying fundamentals continue to remain incredibly compelling. In closing, we would also extend our sincere appreciation to the Macao government for their outstanding performance as well as the community, which has rallied under their leadership during the pandemic. We would also like to thank all the GEG teams, again, who have been extraordinarily supportive of the community and the company during this challenging period.
Operator, that concludes our opening remarks, so back to you to kick off the Q&A session.
We will now begin our question and answer session. If you have questions for today's speaker, please press * one on your telephone keypad and you will enter a queue. After you are announced, please ask your question. If you find that your question has been answered before it is your turn to speak, please press * two to cancel the question. Once again, please press * one on your telephone keypad to ask a question. Our first question is from Bank of America, Billy Ng. Please go ahead.
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Hey, Billy.
My first question, hi, Bob. My first question actually want to have Mike to answer that. Just want to get any updates on Japan situation right now. Any more update will be appreciated.
Thanks for the question, Billy. Since we spoke last, following GEG's Q2 financial results, there's been a major development in Japan with the election of a new Prime Minister, Mr. Fumio Kishida. We welcome the fact that the new Kishida administration remains committed to the IR development process as a means to support the ongoing tourism and economic development in Japan. As we all know, Japan is the third largest economy in the world. It has a large population of 120 million plus, whom enjoy tourism, leisure and travel. All this fits well with the development of an integrated resort. We continue to carefully evaluate the investment market conditions in Japan. GEG is one of a select few IR operators who continues to maintain an office and staff in Japan, and we continue our dialogue with government officials, prefectures, and our business partners.
We believe that given the right circumstances, GEG and our European partner, SBM Monaco, can add significant value to Japan and support their economic and international tourism ambitions. We look forward to announcements by the Japanese government in the future. Thank you.
Thank you. Thanks a lot. I also want to ask about, like, the latest on the ground color. We understand Macao, after October 19, they removed the quarantine requirements, so, like, we should see more traffic coming back. In terms of ramping up again, this time compared to, like, let's say, back in July or April, May, how do you see the traffic pattern different, and how long do you think we'll see the business will be more like the April, May level?
Great question, Billy. You know, October is a microcosm, really, of the pandemic in the form of choppiness. As we all know, we are all pretty excited about going into Golden Week, where we thought we're gonna have a very solid holiday season, only to go back into restrictions being reinstated. But around the nineteenth of October, they eased them, and what we saw that we bounced back quite nicely, almost to the volumes that we were doing in July, right before the previous outbreak. We were pretty encouraged by that. You know, hotel occupancy jumped up immediately. Gaming volumes in both VIP and mass bounced back. Retail was pretty strong.
Believe it or not, through the first 20 days, it was pretty hard on the financial statement, but we almost crawled back to breakeven for the month of October. We were just that close. Going into November, you know, things are plateauing a little bit as we see there's more restrictions going on in Northern China with the recent COVID outbreak. You know, what we're doing now is really focusing on our cost control efforts and when the revenue comes back, we're quite confident that we'll emerge a much stronger operator and continue to generate operating leverage.
I see. Thanks. Also, would like to ask you questions on Hengqin. Given in September, the government has announced the master plan of the cooperative zone, and also some of the chatter out there suggesting that one of the license renewal requirements will be involving Hengqin development. Since Galaxy is the only one already have a piece of land in Hengqin, do you think the latest development that we just mentioned will expedite your Hengqin project, and are there any latest changes, development that you can share with us?
Well, we all saw the news, and we saw it as a very positive signal on many levels, including continued support from the central government. For those of you who haven't visited Macao, and if you've looked across the Hengqin Island, it's just remarkable how much real estate development has gone on. It's just remarkable. Yes, we continue to pursue our project there and maintaining a dialogue with the government. Now they're going through this new formation of the council that's going to manage Hengqin Island. As I said earlier, that it's gonna be at the top managed by the Chief Executive of Macao and the governor of Guangdong. We're working through that process and hopefully have some more updates for you in the future.
Of course, we're expanding beyond that as we explore opportunities within the Greater Bay Area. Again, we're still in the infantile stages there, but we are exploring opportunities there, and as the situation warrants, we'll certainly update you.
All right. Thank you. Thanks a lot.
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Okay. Well, thank you very much, everyone for listening, but we'll just pause one second to see if there's another question or two.
We will take our next question from Alpha Wang at Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
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Following the end of public consultation at the end of last month, could you provide more clarity regarding the next step and any expectations on this front? Thank you.
The highly publicized public consultation process for the revised gaming law really wrapped up at the end of October. The government asked for opinions, you know, and we certainly submitted ours and some feedback. I guess the next step in the process is to wait some feedback from the government on the public consultation, and then I'm sure they'll launch through the LegCo process. We all know this is pretty much the precursor to the concession bidding process in advance of the concessions expiring in June of next year. Like everyone else, we're watching very closely and remain pretty confident about the future of Macau. We continue to invest in Phases Three and Four, and that's a HK$50 billion commitment by Galaxy and the Luis.
We have a lot of confidence in the long-term prospects for Macau, and we're quite confident that in the interim, that we can navigate through the pandemic.
Thank you. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you.
The next question is from Billy Ng at Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Hi. I hope you don't mind I ask questions again. I think some of my peers have difficulties dialing in. The system on the line is not that steady. Anyway, I have two questions I wanna ask. One is like
Sure.
For the Phase Three development. When we looked at the presentation of the Raffles Towers and also the Galaxy International Convention Center, it looks very complete to us. So can you tell us, have you guys already got the necessary approval? And in terms of the opening timing, does that come down to market condition? If market condition improve, you can open quite quickly. Is that the condition that we are seeing? That's my first question.
Thanks for the question, Billy. Yeah, we're very excited about Cotai Phases Three and Four and Raffles at Galaxy Macau and the Galaxy International Convention Center and Arena. The projects are virtually complete. So, you know, we're pretty disciplined operators, and we just wanna see evidence that there's a, you know, of recovery. So, you know, we'll be very flexible. You know, we're at that part of the project where you go from completion to opening, that within a very short period of time, we could ramp up and be ready to align the openings with hopefully an improving market, overall market. So that's where we are.
Of course, on phase four, as you were here, and I think we have some photos in the press release that we continue to move forward with phase four, to complete our ecosystem here in Cotai.
Just follow up on that, the usual approval process that require DICJ and MGTO, the tourism board, is that normally it still takes six months, three months to get clear, or this is already ongoing, so it won't need to be that long?
Yeah. We don't see the inspections as an obstacle to opening. I think the government has a pretty good idea of what's going on in the market as well. We're working closely with them, and we'll just time the inspections when it's at the right time.
Okay. My second question is maybe related back to the first one. The market conditions, supposedly, we believe they will improve if Hong Kong and Macao border can reopen. We heard about some update, some news from the Hong Kong side that they are talking about having a pilot program or testing as early as mid-December to allow maybe up to 1,000 people crossing the border between Hong Kong and China. What's your expectation between Macao and Hong Kong and what's your... I know, like, it's hard to tell, but any color or any insight you can share would be appreciated. Yeah.
Billy, we would welcome you with open arms. But as we said many times before, the primary focus is public health and safety, and we'll work closely with the authorities to just conform with their policies and support them through the entire process. You know, of course, we would welcome that sooner rather than later, but we wanna do it in a sustainable way. And of course, that's Hong Kong, and the same would apply to Greater China, where they've demonstrated that they can effectively deal with the outbreaks in their way. So we just have to stay the course, focus on cost control, and when they're ready to open, we'll be ready to receive our guests.
Okay, thanks. My last question is on the daily OPEX. Do you expect for the fourth quarter and first quarter next year, it will remain largely the same as the third quarter level?
That's a great question, but, you know, actually, if our OPEX burn rate increases, it'll be on the back of business improving as we incur some variable expense. The real trick for us as we're coming out of this, Billy, is to convert temporary savings to permanent savings. You know, with the way that we've optimized our labor force that hopefully, especially our non-local labor force, we won't have to bring back as many as we had before, and where we can do more and deliver a better experience for our customer, which ultimately translates into operating leverage. We're quite confident we can deliver that. That's really what we're focused on here, is creating operating leverage as it comes back. If OPEX burn rate ultimately increases, that's not a bad sign.
The question is it rising at a rate that is accretive once the incremental revenue is welcome back into Macau? We're quite confident we can deliver that.
Okay. Thanks a lot. I don't have any further questions. Thanks again.
The next question is from Andrew Lee at Jefferies. Please ask your questions.
Yeah. Hi, good afternoon. My first question is on the license renewal, right?
Yes.
Hey, hi. Do you think that would be concluded by June, or do you think it could need to be extended?
That's a great question. You know, I think it's, you know, remains to be seen. We're preparing for the bidding process like everyone else is, and we'll move when the government asks us to move. Everyone's watching it very closely. You know, they just completed the consultation process. It has to go through the LegCo. We'll see how long that takes, and then on, you know, following up with that, I'm sure they'll be in a position to launch the, you know, the concession bidding process. It's a lot to get done. Could there be an extension? That's a possibility, but there's also a possibility that they can launch right into the tendering process. We're gearing up for either eventuality.
Okay. Thanks. My second question is on Hengqin Island. Could you give me a little more detail about the development details, right? In terms of how much more development do you need to do? How long will it take? I'm just trying to get a sense of the expansion.
Well, we're still sure it's a very large piece of real estate. It's huge. It's like it has a mile and a half of waterfront coastline, 3-plus sq km. We're still in the initial stages there. We've been at this quite a long time, if you've been following the company. We're very encouraged by the recent update and really as Hengqin really coming into its own, as they work out you know all the details of running the Hengqin Island. Of course, we're in a dialogue with the government, and as they work through their details on the administrative end, we continue to push along our you know our deal. Hopefully we'll have more to update you in the future.
How much CapEx have you allocated or will be allocated?
A minimal amount. Again, it's. We've always said it's a longer term development opportunity. As you can see, there's a lot of progress in Hengqin Island. We continue to pursue that as well as expand into the Greater Bay Area with potential opportunities there as well.
Okay, understood. Thank you for answering the questions.
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The next question is from Alpha Wang at Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
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Hello, and thank you for taking my question. Just one small follow-up. Regarding the balance sheet, yeah, I think this quarter we also generated positive operating cash flow. Why is the cash balance reduced around HKD 5 billion?
The real thing to focus in on guys is really the net cash position and the variance there. What happened during the quarter is that we continued investing in Cotai Phases Three and Four. You know, that was about $1.4 billion and $1.5 billion. You know, we actually had a reduction, a working capital adjustment, particularly through our gaming chip liability, which was reduced by $1 billion or so. And then the value of one of our investments in Wynn Resorts actually declined as well. That really accounts for the variance between net cash at June 30 and September 30.
Got it. Just one more follow-up then. How much is the remaining CapEx for Cotai Phase Three?
That's a great question. You know, as I just said, we invested about HKD 1.4 billion in the quarter in Cotai Phases Three and Four. It brings the total to about HKD 18 billion of the HKD 50 billion that we've budgeted for the projects. That leaves about HKD 32 billion to go. As you can see, we're in a very strong net cash position and very well capitalized to move forward. With any modicum of a rebounding market, we still plan on not raising any external capital to fund our project. It'll come from internally generated funds.
Thank you for sharing. The next question is from Praveen at Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Thanks very much.
Hi, Praveen.
Hi, Bob. How are you? Quick question from me. The timing of opening of Hong Kong or loosening of China travel is kind of unknown, but we'd love to hear your thoughts if there's any. My question was more if Hong Kong, China, Macau opens up without further loosening of China, Macau, meaning no e-visa, no group visa, what additional percentage of revenue and EBITDA do you expect to bring in to your business?
That's a great question. I think as we've always said, Praveen, it's gonna be a gradual managed recovery. It's not going to be a light switch. It'll be a gradual recovery. Of course, if you know, if Hong Kong opens up, that would certainly be an immediate boost to business. Again, that's probably gonna be in a gradual basis, walk as you run, before you run type of scenario. Ultimately, you know, the best signal would be the conversion of going from manual to the electronic IVS. You know, I think there are so many levers that they can pull to support the market here.
In the interim, all we can do is really welcome our customers when they do come, but really focus on driving efficiency, particularly in our cost structure. In addition, on top of that, you know, is also supporting the local community and the government about really and all their policies about containing the pandemic. I think, you know, Galaxy in particular is well capitalized in order to ride out the storm, as is probably the rest of the market. We just have to hang in there and navigate through the balance of the pandemic. We still believe it'll be a gradual manage and hopefully not choppy, but, you know, we're prepared for a choppy recovery.
Thanks, Bob. Yeah, if I have a follow-up, I looked at the picture of Phase Four, which clearly looks like there's a lot of activity. My question was, if the current environment, which has been going on for two years almost sustains, could you have slowed down the development of Phase Four? Or what is giving you comfort around keep spending on Phase Four on top of course, Phase Three is obviously almost completed. Thank you so much. That's it for me.
Well, that's a great question in the midst of the pandemic. In the short term, you know, we're on the operations side, as you know, it's had a dramatic effect on the operations part of our business, but we really do believe in the medium and long-term potential of Macau. You know, we've been here a long time. The initial thesis in Macau has only been validated over time. We continue to serve a grossly under-penetrated market. We continue to believe that it'll migrate towards the mass part of the market in support of the Macau vision to become a global tourism and leisure destination. We're building our MICE facilities to support the government and the diversification of the Macau economy. We take it on its own merits. It's a very encouraging sign.
What else, you know, that's from a bottoms up. When you look from the top down, the central government just continues to support the Greater Bay Area in general and Macau and Guangdong and Zhuhai specifically. You know, not a lot of notoriety about the new checkpoint that just opened, but that's huge. That's they didn't have to do that. People don't appreciate that the second largest underground train station in China is in Hengqin Island. There's a long-term plan here, and we're just, you know, if you're reading the tea leaves, you can see what the master plan is for the Greater Bay Area, and you just keep peeling back the onion down into Macau and Hengqin Island, that you can see that we play a pivotal role.
We're very comforted by the support from the central government about the long-term prospects for the market. That's why we continue to move forward with Phases Three and Four. We really do think Phase Four is a game changer for the market. It will be the only next generation integrated resort in the market that completes our ecosystem. I think we're well-positioned for future growth relative to the competition. The reason we're so bullish is because we're getting support from the governments broadly defined.
Thank you so much, Bob. Can't wait to see phase four and three coming out, and we can travel to Macau someday and visit for ourselves.
welcome you with open arms, my friend.
Thank you.
The next question is from GEG. Please state your name before posing your question. Please go ahead.
Oh, hi, management. Good afternoon. I'm from Industrial Securities. I'm Grace. I only have one question about the competition situation for now. It seems that the premium mass has recovered faster. I'm wondering what your insight for the GGR structure in future, and also do you have any special arrangement or strategy in premium mass for our phase three or phase four? Thank you.
Sure. As we've seen over the last few years, there's been a structural change in the market migrating away from VIP to mass. For those of you who follow the market, you know the mass market is definitely more profitable, lower volume, but higher profit margin in the mass segment of the business. If you think back 20 years ago when they initiated the liberalized gaming and opened up Cotai, it was really focused on the mass market and to really achieve, at that time, the vision of becoming a global tourism destination.
Eventually, if you fast-forward to now, I think, if you look at the integrated resorts in Macao, especially Galaxy and the rest of the market, we're really servicing the mass segment of the market, and expanding into more non-gaming areas like MICE and entertainment and retail. Within that, of course, our premium customers get a lot of notoriety, but we have to service all our customers, and that ranges from mid-tier customers to our core customers. I think any mass-centric market caters to all those segments.
I think one of the reasons that we've been so successful, particularly at Galaxy Macau, which continues to lead the market for a number of years in the face of significant new competition, most importantly in terms of property EBITDA, is that, you know, our retail business has done pretty well, and in the pandemic. It's the which sends a signal that there's strong pent-up demand out there. You know, we have to offer a little bit of everything to everybody, and I think we've done a great job of doing that. That's very consistent with what the development mandate is from the Macao government. What we're building in the future certainly complements what the Macao government wants with the convention center and the arena and the Andaz Hotel.
Of course, our next generation Phase Four integrated resort caters to all that as well. Yes, we're targeting the premium segments, but we're offering every segment something that would invite, make them feel that they can have a great experience in Macao.
Sure. Thank you so much. I don't have any more questions.
Thank you.