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Earnings Call: Q1 2018

Apr 24, 2018

Summary

Q1 revenue rose 5.7% and attributable profit increased 22.1%, despite lower EBITDA and operating profit as U.S. fresh pork weakened. China and packaged meat performance improved, and management maintained a cautiously optimistic pre-tax growth outlook.

Operator

Good evening, our friends from the investment sector. First of all, I would like to welcome all of you to our results announcement for the first quarter. I would like to introduce members of the management here. First of all, our CFO, Mr. Guo Lijun, Executive Director, Mr. Kenneth Sullivan, who is also responsible for Smithfield. He is responsible for our business in the U.S. and Europe. Then we have Mr. Ma Xiangjie, who leads Shuanghui Development. On our conference call, we also have from Shuanghui, CFO, Mr. Liu Songtao, Mr. Zhang Liwen, Mr. Wan Hongjian , and also from Smithfield, Mr. Glenn Nunziata. Now I hand the time to Mr. Guo to talk about our performance in the first quarter, which will be followed by a Q&A session. Mr. Guo, please.

Lijun Guo
CFO, WH Group

Thank you, analysts and investors. I will now report to you the performance of the group in the first quarter of 2018. In the first quarter, we have leveraged on the advantages of global presence in industrial value chain and continue to increase business scope, which resulted in steady profit growth during the quarter. The continued decline in average hog prices benefited the operating performance of China's business. The decrease of costs further improved production and sales volume in China. This led to a substantial increase in operating profit in China's business. In the U.S., profit in the fresh pork business has fallen sharply due to the increase in market supply, while the packaged meat business improved steadily with increased sales and profit.

Continued to expand presence in Europe through our M&A efforts, where the business scope and profitability grew in the quarter with significant both fresh pork and packaged meats business. During the first quarter, hogs produced 5.117 billion. We have simultaneous interpretation at the moment. Hogs processed, 13.9 million, up by 7%. Packaged meat external sales volume increased by 4.1%. We realized $5.62 billion in revenue, up by 5.7%. EBITDA, $516 million, down by 4.1%. Operating profit, $379 million, down by 9.3%, mainly affected by the fresh pork operation in the U.S. I will offer more details in a moment. Profit attributable to owners of the company, $249 million, up by 22.1%. Basic earnings per share, $0.017, up by 14.1%. For the China business, we realized operating profit and margin of $214 million and 11.4%. Packaged meat, $169 million, up by 20%.

Fresh pork, $39 million, up to 3.5% for our margins. Because of the lowering hog prices, the hog production segment performance is down to a lower level at 10.3% for margins. Profitability improved greatly for the China business. Then for U.S. business, operating profit, $141 million, down by 39.6%. Packaged meat, $180 million, up by 2%. Fresh pork, $11 million, down by 89%. Hog production, the loss is $21 million, a $4.5 million increase of the loss. Because of more supply in the market for fresh pork, leading to the prices declining, and hog prices, the momentum of decrease also created a certain impact on our performance. Europe business, $24 million operating profit, a flat trend. Packaged meat, $13 million. A slight increase. Fresh pork, $6 million, an increase of $7.4 million. Hog production, $6 million, down by $15 million.

For our core business, packaged meat in the first quarter, we have stable growth for U.S. and Europe. Next, our strategy. We need to strengthen global business operation and synergy of global companies. Secondly, we need to adhere to a globalization strategy, strengthen global business platform, and expand business scale and scope. Thirdly, we need to limit hog production, sensibly develop fresh pork business, focused on the expansion of packaged meat business to enhance the brand value. Fourthly, we need to leverage complementary advantages and realize synergies by integrating global resources, realize further development through expansion of trading business, sales, and distribution networks. We need to continue to grow the scale of the business with a focus on our core business and gradually expand the non-core business. We need to continue to develop sales network of fresh pork business in China to further increase sales volume.

We need to continue to realign our production portfolio in packaged meat, achieve stable growth for high-temperature products, and aggressive growth for low-temp products. For U.S. and Europe, we need to continue our operational excellence, enlarge operational scale through M&A and organic growth, seize improvement potential, and reduce cost. We need to roll out earnings improvement and growth plan to further enhance profitability. That is the situation for Q1. I will now take questions. Thank you.

Speaker 3

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Operator

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Speaker 4

Thank you very much. The first question is from UBS. I would like to ask about the profit decline for fresh pork business in U.S. How much of this decline is caused by prices, and how much is caused by volume? Can you further share some figures in relation to hog prices and hog volume? What will be the overall margin for the entire year? The second part of my question. In relation to the hog prices both in China and the U.S., we see some declining trends. This is not really reflected in the downstream margin for packaged meat business. My question is, what do you think will be the margin level for packaged meat segment? Thank you.

Operator

Okay. For the first question, Ken, can you take the question about the decline in the U.S. fresh pork business?

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Yes. Luis, I can. The biggest decrease in the fresh pork margins in the first quarter were related to prices, specifically meat prices. If you look at the Smithfield results, of the segments that we have, our international segment is ahead of last year, our packaged meats is ahead of last year, but fresh pork was the big one that's behind last year. Again, mostly related to price levels of meat. I think the second—

Operator

Ken, sorry, can you speak up a little bit?

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Yes. Do you need me to repeat that?

Operator

Yes. Maybe repeat what you have just said, because the voice is a little bit small.

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Okay. The question was, what is the reason for the decrease in fresh pork profitability in the first quarter? The point I made was that it was in fact related to lower meat prices. That is the biggest single contributing factor to the drop in profitability in Q1. It is not related to something other fundamentals. It's related to the drop in meat values. I also pointed out that our segments, we've got essentially four operating segments. The international group is ahead of last year. The packaged meats is ahead of last year. In the hog production, the live side is about even, I think it's 5 million less than last year. The big difference in our results is that fresh pork in Q1, and it is mostly related to price levels of meat.

Speaker 4

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Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

To provide a little bit more explanation or color on that. The single biggest contributing factor to the lower meat values were bellies. Our bacon demand in the U.S. was down, and we had more supply of bellies. Belly prices were down significantly year-over-year. That single complex contributed about $67 million to that drop in the overall meat values.

Speaker 4

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Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

I think there was a second part of the question, Luis, about packaged meats. Is that correct?

Speaker 3

Hi, Ken, this is Christine.

Operator

I think it's mainly in the fresh pork. You can maybe briefly go through some key points about the packaged meat business.

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Okay. Well, the point in packaged meats is I do expect packaged meats to have a very strong year. As we move through the balance of the year, I expect our bacon sales are going to come back strong. I think that the overall lower meat values in the U.S. will contribute to a good packaged meats year. I think what you're going to see this year is what we've seen in the last couple of years with Smithfield, in that the vertically integrated model will have some pluses and minuses in each segment. Overall, we remain optimistic about the kind of year we can have.

Speaker 4

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Operator

Okay. Thank you, Ken.

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Songtao Liu
CFO, Shuanghui Development

Hi, Luis.

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Speaker 4

Thank you for your question for Shuanghui. My answer is that in quarter one, the overall hog prices reduction has led to a lower level of profit, and the overall prices for hogs have gone down, leading to a lower level for the prices of meat in general. This is also reflected in the impact on domestic sales in the first quarter.

Songtao Liu
CFO, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

In quarter one, while hog prices have come down, the prices for other raw materials have actually increased.

Songtao Liu
CFO, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

The third reason is because of the continuous price decline for hog in the domestic market. The first quarter, we had to make some adjustments to the importation level.

Songtao Liu
CFO, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

Also, fourthly, in the first quarter, we have improved our performance in relation to high- quality products.

Songtao Liu
CFO, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

These are the four major factors driven by the lowering of the hog prices, leading to a lower level of our growth margin level in Q1.

Operator

I think for the translation, there's just one minor clarification about the hog price and the meat price. The hog price did decline in the later part of the first quarter. However, the meat price is comparatively strong. However, the packaged meat margin did not actually fully reflect the decline of the hog price and also decline of the meat price. We believe the packaged meat business margin will enjoy a better margin in the second quarter.

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Speaker 7

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The third question also is a follow-up question for Ken in the U.S. business. I still wanted to have a little more explanation about fresh pork profitability for the rest of the year. Because I think the drop was quite significant in the first quarter. How do we see the operating profit in terms of the total size for the following quarters from our fresh pork business? Last question is on international business. In the first quarter, I think there was the acquisition of Romanian packaged meat facilities. Any idea of the possible contribution to international business in the following quarters? Thanks.

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Okay. First, let me address—

Operator

Ken, can you hold a little bit? We will go for the China question first. The first two questions were for Shuanghui business.

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Okay.

Speaker 4

The translation for the first part of the question in relation to the China business. In Q1, we see the volume increasing by about 6 percentage points for packaged meat. What is the expectation level for the volume for the entire year? We see only a five-point increase for fresh meat sales. I know that the slaughtering volume is quite big. Do you believe that the situation will improve in the following quarter with a large amount of slaughtering? Do you think the benefits will be reflected in Q3 of the year? Mainly for the China business, I'm asking about the volume and also the margin.

Operator

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Songtao Liu
CFO, Shuanghui Development

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Operator

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Speaker 4

To answer your question, for the first part, we have seen some increases for the volume of packaged meat. We remain the same level of confidence throughout the year. We believe the performance will be positive for packaged meat. Second question is in relation to the faster speed of growth for slaughtering numbers compared to the growth in sales. Well, there are a number of reasons behind this. First of all, in the first quarter, there's a decline in the level of imported meat. Also there's the persistent factor of domestic hog prices, because the low hog prices in Q1, this is reflected in the performance of the sales of packaged meat products.

Songtao Liu
CFO, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

Just now, I was also talking about the domestic sales of raw materials being another factor, driving the faster growth in the slaughtering numbers. As for the second part of the question in relation to growth margin, for the following quarters and actually for the entire year, we expect a very stable development for the segment, because we have previously made some adjustments to our portfolio. Overall speaking, the margin level will increase.

Operator

Just to clarify, that is for the margin of the packaged meat business will gradually improve in the next few quarters. Ken, you can take the question about U.S. and international business.

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Okay. First on fresh pork. I think it's important to note that coming into the year, we had forecast fresh pork to be lower. That's not to say we forecast the entire business to be lower. In fact, we don't. We have a higher budget, a growth budget for 2018. It reflects the power of the vertically integrated model, meaning we did expect fresh pork to be lower, but packaged meats to be higher and even hogs to be better than last year. That last piece is a question that remains up in the air. We've seen great volatility in pig prices this year so far, including the last couple of weeks with some significant swings up and down. I'm going to pause here for a minute for translation.

Speaker 4

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Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

The same thing has happened in fresh meat. We've seen some big swings just in the first quarter. Some of that precipitated by the tariff discussion and some of the wild swings, what I would call wild swings in the market, precipitated by the tariff discussions. We've seen the spread between hog prices and meat values gap out significantly and then come back tightly in the quarter. For the balance of the year, though, I still think that we'll be on plan to make our budget for 2018. I know we don't share what that budget number is, but I would just simply tell you that in total for the integrated model, it's a growth budget for 2018. Again, I'll stop here for translation and then I'll address the international segment.

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Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

The second question related to our acquisition in Romania of Elit. Let me just say about that acquisition, which we closed in January of 2018, that we're extremely excited about that acquisition. It completes the vertically integrated model in Romania. Previously, we grew hogs there, we have fresh meat there, but did not have any mechanism to convert those raw materials into packaged products. We now have that with the Elit acquisition, and so we're extremely excited about that. Again, I'll pause there for translation for a moment.

Speaker 4

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Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Just continuing on a little bit about Elit. One of the big synergies that we'll have with this is the conversion of our raw materials, but we also have significant sales synergies. The Elit business, the strong sales channel for them is the traditional sales channel. These are the traditional meat outlets, the smaller stores, and most of their volume was sold through that channel. In contrast, our meat business, our fresh meat business in Romania, the major channel for that is more the modern retail channel. We now have an opportunity to cross-sell across those channels and improve both our fresh meat as well as the packaged meats business that we just acquired. It's again—

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Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

In terms of the impact on the business, I would not like to comment specifically on the impact of Elit. Let me put it in a little bit broader terms. Both the Elit acquisition and the Polish acquisitions that we've made within the last 12 months form our European business. I expect that significant profit contributions from these acquisitions and the structuring that we're doing of that business, I would give you some general guidance that I think that we can triple the profitability of that business over a four or five year period coming off a 2016 base. That should give you some understanding of the order of magnitude of the growth I think that we can experience there and the synergy that we can wring out of it. I think, again, we can triple the profits off of the 2016 year base.

Speaker 4

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Speaker 7

Thank you very much, Ken.

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Operator

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Next question.

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Speaker 8

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Operator

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Speaker 8

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Speaker 4

They ask questions concerning, first of all, the China business. Sorry, first of all, in relation in the U.S. fresh pork business, we do see the movement in terms of the margin in the first quarter. What will be the overall margin for 2018? I do see some decline in the prices, but the level is not as serious as the decline in margin. Is it because comparing to last year, you are exporting less? The second question is about international business. The sales number for Q1 has gone up, but the operating profit has come down. Can you explain the reason behind this?

Operator

Ken, can you take the question?

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Yeah. Again, the question is about fresh pork margins, which is—

Speaker 8

Right.

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

—the theme of the call, I think. I did explain already that fresh meat values are lower year-over-year, and that is a $65 million- plus type of decline relative to the meat values. There are some other factors. We had some mark-to-market adjustments for some procurement contracts. We've had some reduced production related to our SAP implementation. There are a handful of other things, including our distribution cost in the United States has spiked up in the first quarter. There are a handful of other factors. That said, I would tell you that there's nothing that's fundamentally changed about the underlying business. This is in particular in the first quarter, this is mostly about that hog meat spread.

As anybody who's followed this industry knows, that spread will shift from time to time, and we just happen to be in a quarter, in the first quarter in which we've experienced that. It's kind of the nature of the business in fresh pork. Again, I go back to my comments about the vertically integrated model. I think over the course of the year, that we'll be able to compensate or make up for that, and that delta, if you will, or that difference will pop out in other segments of the business. That said, we're sitting here in April and it's tough to forecast the balance of the year.

Speaker 8

Right.

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Those are my comments.

Speaker 8

Okay. Got you. Thank you. Oh, no, and also the international business. Sorry.

Operator

Chris, can you hold?

Speaker 8

Sure.

Operator

Can you just hold for translation.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Speaker 4

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Operator

Okay, Ken, you can continue with the question about international business.

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

I think the second question related to the international business, and I think the observation was that sales are up, and profits, I think the comments were flat. I would correct that. I think sales certainly are up. There's two components to that. There's the acquisitions that we made have contributed to the increase in sales. Also remember, we keep the books, these businesses are in Poland and Romania, and we keep those books in local currency. When those sales get translated into U.S. dollars, that has resulted in a positive impact of about, call it $60 million for the quarter. I think the new acquisitions contributed about, call it $50 million to the increase in sales and the translation contributed about $60 million. Of course, some of these acquisitions are brand new, and the profitability from those transactions has not fully manifested in the P&L.

Again, I think the good news here is that our base business profits are up, the sales are coming to us via the acquisition, and I expect the margins and profits will follow.

Speaker 4

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Speaker 8

Okay. Thank you, Kenneth.

Operator

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Speaker 9

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Ken, well, first of all, you're talking about the fresh pork profit decline was due to the belly price decline. We haven't seen any meaningful improvement in the packaged meat margin as we think belly cost should be a major cost component of the packaged meat. We didn't see the margin improvement. Could you explain a bit more in the first quarter, the flat packaged meat margin? That's one. Second question is, what's the effective tax rate for U.S. in Q1? When you talk about you still maintaining the positive growth plan or guidance for the whole group for full year, do you include those tax rate benefits? Or you're talking about the operating profit level, we still expect positive growth for U.S. That's the two question for U.S.

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Speaker 4

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And then, the third question was for the China business. There's a 6- percentage- point improvement for volume. I heard from the management's explanation, it is due to some contribution from high-end products or high-quality products. What is the overall increase or momentum of increase for Q1? What do you think the overall trend will be for the entire year?

Operator

Okay. Ken, can you take the first two questions about U.S., first about the packaged meat margin, and the second is about the effective tax rate in the U.S.

Kenneth Sullivan
Executive Director, Smithfield

Yeah. The first question about packaged meats margins, the short answer is I'm not worried at all about our packaged meats margins this year. I think they will benefit from lower raw materials. There is a lag that typically is involved here. There's a lot of formula pricing in the packaged meats business. I expect that the segment will ultimately benefit from these lower raw material that we're seeing. In fact, I'm seeing it already in the month of April. I would just sort of give you the guidance that I suggested earlier, which is again, we continue to believe that we can achieve our targets for 2018 on a consolidated or a vertically integrated model. I would point out just for reference, I think it's important perhaps for context. The first quarter seems like a disappointment, certainly in the fresh meat business.

Again, we're ahead of last year on the international segment and in the packaged meat segment, a little bit ahead. I'm bullish about these packaged meat segment for the balance of the year. The point I'd make about the first quarter is, it's actually our third best first quarter ever. I think people should understand and appreciate that the first quarter of last year was extraordinary in fresh pork. We're lapping an extraordinary quarter. Again, directionally in terms of the vertically integrated results for the year, I remain, I remain cautiously optimistic, let's say, that we can achieve our targets. Again, the last thing I'd say is we are living in some volatile times, and we'll have to see what the next couple of months bring. At this point, certainly no one's pushing the panic button. Luis, I'll let translation occur and then I'll answer the question on taxes.

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Glenn Nunziata
CFO, Smithfield

Okay. I believe that the second and third question related specifically to taxes and tax rate in the U.S. To answer the first question, the effective tax rate for Smithfield approximates 22%, 23%. That is in line with what we expected and for 2018 post-tax reform, and very consistent with what Ken and I spoke about after year-end in all the calls. And then, finally, with respect to the guidance or the directional guidance and statement regarding growth in 2018 and his cautiously optimistic comment, all of that is made on a pre-tax basis. Said another way, we're not taking credit for tax reform. When we talk about growth, we're talking about it prior to tax.

Speaker 4

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Operator

Thank you, Glenn.

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Speaker 11

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Speaker 4

My next question is about the performance of low- temperature products versus high- temperature products in Q1. What is your expectation level for the entire year for these two types of products?

Lijun Guo
CFO, WH Group

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Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

Allow me to respond to the earlier question about packaged meat products. We have done some structural adjustments to our portfolio to achieve overall growth for both high- temperature and low- temperature products. We have achieved single-digit improvement.

Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

There are four major reasons for the very positive performance for packaged meat segment. First of all, we have done some reform measures to our structure, and we have also started a lot of intensified collaboration in relation to our different products and different channels. All these measures have promoted very positive development for our products and the overall segment.

Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

Secondly, we have made some adjustments to our sales policies. We are going to promote high- quality, high-end products, which carry higher price levels and will also contribute higher levels of margins.

Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

Thirdly, we have done some reforms to our product mix to better cater to the market demands. We can realize better mix between high- temperature and low- temperature products.

Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

For our higher- temperature products, we have launched a number of new products. Also we have relied on our best seller products as well.

Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

As for the lower- temperature products, we have enjoyed double-digit growth in relation to our Chinese products.

Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

For Western-style products, we have also performed very well and we achieved double-digit growth.

Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

We also gained extra momentum in terms of sales because of the Chinese New Year.

Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

Also because of the [inaudible].

Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Speaker 4

There was another question for Shuanghui in relation to the increase of the fees in relation to sales. The first reason is in the first quarter, we have invested more heavily into promotional activities and advertisements. The second reason is caused by the lowering hog prices, which has driven down our revenue.

Xiangjie Ma
Executive Director and President, Shuanghui Development

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Operator

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Speaker 4

That's the end of today's telephone conference. Thank you very much for your participation.