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Earnings Call: H1 2021

Aug 16, 2021

Operator

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Weimob Inc.'s 2021 I nterim Presentation. A copy of the interim results announcement can be found and downloaded from the company's investor relations website. Joining us today on the call are Mr. Sun Taoyong, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Cao Yi, Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Yin Shiming, Chief Operational Officer, and Mr. Huang Junwei, Chief Technology Officer. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Sun.

Sun Taoyong
Chairman of the Board and CEO, Weimob

Investors, analysts, good evening. Thank you very much for spending time with us at Weimob interim results announcement.

We believe that this year, given the macro environment, there are a lot of challenges and uncertainties. This year, we know that there are many regulatory policies coming out, there are issues and uncertainties that investors are more concerned about. Through today's meeting, we hope that you will have clearer understanding of our company's future strategies, and future policies and implications on our company. After our presentation, there will be a Q&A session. Let me do a review of our company's results. I believe you can see our figures and data on the PPT. We performed quite well in relation to our revenue growth. Total revenue, CNY 1.38 billion, up 44.5% year-on-year. Adjusted year-on-year growth, 31.7%. Gross profit margin, up 20-odd%. GP margin went up. Today, in terms of overall loss, the adjusted loss was CNY 720-odd million.

This is because of expenses in R&D, operations, and also some marketing and promotion expenses. Later on, I will go through the details. This year, our digital commerce did well. It grew fast. For digital commerce, there are two areas of revenue: One, subscription solutions, and the other, merchant solutions. Revenue from subscription solution, up 159.2%. Adjusted year-on-year growth, 80.3%. Number of paying merchants, up 15.2% year-on-year. ARPU, up 56.5%. If you look at merchant solution, revenue or gross billing, up 38.7%. Revenue from merchant solution, up 63.8%. I think advertising environment is very optimistic. I think we can see quite good growth. Let's do a brief review of our product system. We offer to merchants smart solutions. We have Marketing Cloud, Commerce Cloud, and Sales Cloud. For Commerce Cloud, it is for different industries.

It is a complete solution from EC, Smart Retail, smart hotel, smart beauty, local lifestyle, and so on. For merchants, we offer some tools for self-operation. We also offer some tools to salespeople, within Sales Cloud. We offer two other value-added services, targeted marketing and TSO. Here you can see what we offer. For TSO, I think it can be reflected from our merchant solutions at the same time. We also do targeted marketing. Now I would like to focus more on our core strategies. Our three core strategies. At the end of 2019, we introduced Moving Up Market, Ecosystem Buildup, and Globalization Strategies. In 2020, for these three strategies, they have been basically formulated. In first half 2021, we can take a look at these three major strategies. First, Moving Up Market.

From our financial statements, you can see that Smart Retail maintains very high-speed growth. In terms of Smart Retail or fashion retail, our share is rising. We are among top 100 fashion brands, and 44% are using our Smart Retail solution. We cover, for example, home construction materials, department stores, and so on. Our market share is rising this year. Our revenue was CNY 183 million, accounting for 33% of subscription service revenue. Our ARPC rose from CNY 220,000-CNY 230,000. We have 830 brand merchants that we serve. In the retail area, I think our progress is very good. Our market share keeps on rising. Let's take a look at our shopping malls and our department stores or supermarkets. Last year, we acquired Haiding. Haiding, in commercial properties, operate convenience stores and supermarkets.

They have big market share, and Weimob helps Haiding to grab more business at marketing end. We offer a complete solution to them. On the management end, they can maintain their strong competitive advantage. We offer the marketing end service, so together we form a very complete platform. In terms of commercial properties, Haiding's market share is 62%. Among top 100 convenience store chains, 35% was Haiding's share. By integration with Haiding, we hope that in shopping malls, convenience stores, supermarkets, we can grab bigger market share. I mentioned shopping malls, supermarkets, and convenience stores. In terms of dining or catering, our progress is fast as well. Among top 100 restaurants, we have a few clients. Through our integration last year with Haiding, we are able to serve more catering customers. Because of the overall environment, revenue growth was not very impressive.

Number of customers did not grow a lot. The dining segment is such that we are moving from small to medium-sized customers to medium to large customers. We are covering those customers with 5-30 outlets. In the future, very small customers will not be our target. We focus more on larger customers. In the future, for the dining markets, it will gradually recover. At that time, I think Smart Dining business will enjoy better performance. TSO segment. Last year, we introduced this segment. In terms of traffic tools and operation, we offer a very complete chain. It is a smart solution to help merchants. Apart from smart in the past, we also offer traffic and operation growth solutions to customers. In first half this year, we served 30-odd brands, and some of them enjoyed good growth.

For example, food and beverage like Chunzhen under Mengniu, and then 3C Digital customers. Through TSO service, we have achieved good performance. In the future, for TSO, we hope to serve 100 top brands, helping them to achieve business growth. In the business growth, we will then be able to get our revenue and profit. Let me turn to our ecosystem strategy. We have traffic ecosystem and application ecosystem. For our traffic ecosystem, we continue to expand traffic channels. With Douyin Kuaishou and Xiaohongshu, we are deliberating on some collaboration. In the future, we hope that we can take over traffic domain business and growth for merchants. They may need a back office, and they will be able to open stores on our platform. Regarding ecosystem, well, that is going to be our most important strategy in the future.

We would like to build our ecosystem. We have 550-odd developers and 1,744 applications and more than 1,000 interfaces. We work with many working partners right now. In the future, when it comes to ecosystem build-up in the coming two to three years, this is going to be our most important strategy. Later on, in the business outlook, I will elaborate more. For investment ecosystem, we continue to make investment in M&A. Overall speaking, we are trying our best to expand business boundaries and enhance product depth. We have direct investment and also M&As. We have also set up industrial funds with Meridian Capital and We Capital, and I think the performance of the funds has been good so far. Globalization. As I said, basically, there are three steps under globalization. The first step is we serve overseas Chinese.

Through the overseas agents, we are covering around 12 countries and regions. We are serving 1,700-odd overseas merchants with 51 overseas channel partners. Through these partners, we are serving overseas Chinese merchants. That is our first step of globalization. The second step is that we face the Chinese merchants, and then we go abroad. We help the Chinese merchants to build ShopExpress websites so that the products and services can be sold to the U.S. and Europe. In July, we already launched the service, and now there are 100-odd comprehensive cross-border e-commerce pilot zones. In the future, I think this is going to be one very important step of globalization. With the pandemic, more Chinese companies are trying to go abroad with the ShopExpress tool. For this tool, it serves Chinese local merchants.

In many product lines and user experience, we think that there used to be a lot of issues. When we serve Chinese local merchants, we think we have a more competitive advantage. The above is our results for the first half of last year. Now, I would like to turn to the industry landscape and business outlook. In the second half of the year, and also in the coming one to two years to our company, we think that these are the most important points as shown here. First, build open ecosystem. Two. Increase proportion of KA business. Three. Upgrade full-chain operational capabilities. Four. Accelerate globalization, and Five. Explore strategic partnership opportunities. I will go through all these points one by one. First, industry ecosystem. I said just now, this year, there were a number of new regulatory policies coming out.

When it comes to these new policies, what are their impact on our company? I will explain now. This year, some internet antitrust regulations are targeted at platform economy in China. In relation to platform companies, I think the policy is to protect them so that merchants can do business in better shape. I think this is favorable to companies like us. The second thing is the interconnection of Tencent and Alibaba platforms. Some time ago, I think this is something many people are concerned about. Overall speaking, to Weimob, I think this is a favorable factor because it doesn't matter whether Tencent and Alibaba will be interconnected. Well, some time ago, there was already JD and PDD in the ecosystem. It doesn't stop our company offering or serving merchants because their business models are totally different.

Second, there are more and more merchants on Ali who are also on Tencent. In this way, users on WeChat can build a shopping habit and awareness. In the U.S., the internet ecosystem is very open. That's why Shopify has been so successful in the U.S. when consumers shop. For brands that they know, they will visit the brand's official websites. In China, consumers may just go to Alibaba to shop, or they will just do a search on Taobao JD. In the past, over a long period of time, during the PC era, well, consumers or users did not have a strong habit of shopping online or searching online. Now they have already formed a habit to shop on Alibaba.

In the future, with further change in consumers' habits, I think for private domain or B2C data is going to be a faster or acceleration impact. Merchants are more willing to go for private domain because costs are chopped down and things are more controllable. With consumers' awareness, I think this is also very favorable to private domain. Overall speaking, let's say if Tencent and Alibaba platforms are interconnected, I think this is not unfavorable to merchants. In the long run, I think this is a plus. Then enhanced user data and privacy protection. We believe that this is a favorable factor to our company.

In the past, we realized that when merchants entered private domain, so on Taobao and Douyin, they would place advertisements, and then they got people's mobile numbers, and then mobile numbers will be added to the personal WeChat, and then marketing can be done. Well, we did not promote this approach. What we advocate is that the best way of connection is to do it by means of public accounts of WeChat. Merchants can go by means of a WeChat public account. I think this is going to be a big favorable factor. Will that be impact on advertising? No, we don't think so. Because when it comes to user privacy protection, well, of course, sensitive information like mobile phone number will be protected in Douyin and other advertising platform. The phone number is not the only way of identifying the customer or users.

There are other ID that can be identifiers of users. In the future, if merchants can't see user's phone number, then in the advertisement, that would be more a closed loop for merchants. I think marketing effect will be better. From front end to back end investment, they may have to make use of public account or mini programs instead of just taking consumer's mobile number. I think this is better for privacy protection. No matter whether we look at advertising or other areas, there won't be much impact. These are some big regulatory policies. I think the overall trend is that, I think the state is against monopoly, they hope merchants can better run their business in the long run. Merchants' IP can be enhanced, monetization of EC, e-commerce, is getting higher and higher.

I think O2O will form a new paradigm for business digitalization. There is a bold estimate. In the future, retail enterprises can achieve the following figures, 40% of sales from offline shops, 30% of sales from e-commerce platforms, and 30% of sales from private domain of enterprises. There are some good brands which are taking this route already. Many brands are already making these attempts. This is going to be a trend for the future. With changes in the ecosystem and environment, we are thinking of one matter. In the past, merchants are concerned about traffic, especially during platform e-commerce stage. There was JD and other platforms. The systems or actually with the mobile stage, Windows, iOS, Android, and so on, the operating systems mainly.

We are going to have a new commercial operating system that can connect various scenarios of merchants and solve problems for them. When merchants want to go for digitalization, there are many problems to solve. For example, they have to go on different systems, and each system is supplied by different developers, data of different systems are not interoperable, and the developers of various systems will work on repeated problems. For example, interface with internal system, interface with external traffic, interface with POS, e-commerce, and so on. They are doing a lot of repetitive things. We are talking about cross-scenario, cross-platform, or cross-ecosystem. We offer a commercial operating system, which is Android. When merchants are on this system, based on the business scenarios and needs that they have, they can develop the relevant applications. There is no more the need for repetitive work.

Can we introduce a new commercial operating system to satisfy merchants' needs for digitalization so that we can help them deal with their data and so on? Starting last year till this year, we said that we would like to introduce a Weimob new commercial operating system. When merchants are on this operating system, there are a lot of functions available to them. Internally, they may have omnichannel capability and internal management. For example, they have stores and channels. There's the need for a system to manage all these data and so on. If we are able to consolidate all these functionalities in our system, we can help merchants develop some systematic applications. For example, merchants may need to look at traffic, they may need information or service about customers, and also some data products. There are ERP and so on.

For third-party users, we can handle these needs of our ecosystem. In the future, merchants only need to go onto this commercial operating system, and then subsequent applications that they need may have already been developed by third-party developers. In this way, cost can come down, and then on the bottom layer, the data can be acceptable and interoperable. That in this way, cost can be saved and future use of data can be optimized. There's not the need to repeat a lot of work and they can focus more on their core business operation. This is our hope. With our new commercial operating system, we can solve all the problems. I would like to go into greater detail. Actually, this year, we have invested a lot in R&D.

Last year, we have only 900-odd people, and this year in the first half, there are 1,500 R&D people. For the whole year this year, there may be 2,000 R&D people. We have invested a lot in R&D. Perhaps our CTO can talk more about the system. Please.

Huang Junwei
CTO, Weimob

Analysts, investors, good evening. Now I am going to briefly introduce our new commercial operating system design. As Mr. Sun just said, we would like to offer one-stop service, full chain, SaaS application, and service to merchants. There are four main parts. First, at the bottom, a platform. All along when we developed our system, these are some of our past achievements. It is a tool which can enhance development efficiency. In this way, we can encourage our internal developers and third-party developers to innovate. Later on, I will talk more about this PaaS platform.

In the middle, new commercial platform for SaaS solutions, full context synergy. As said by Mr. Sun. We have an inner shell. It includes a lot of things, BTM, data BI, shopping guide, CMS, CRM and so on. This system can benefit from all these conveniences. We can offer very rich commercial applications to merchants. For example, shopping mall, food ordering, food delivery, marketing, payments, and so on. Some of these applications were developed by Weimob ourselves, some were by our working partners. Apart from the core applications, we hope that we can offer more ecosystem users, not only across ERP, payment, and so on. We hope that external developers can offer such service as well. Many of our products will be connected together so that there will be industry solution. We encourage third-party working partners to create the best together.

There is 1 important point of innovation. We have strengthened the use at the end. For example, A offers a mall, and then B offers a membership arrangement. There is the need for redirection, and this is a very bad user experience. Here, we can solve this problem gracefully. For the new commercial operating system, it will be linked to different media, like WeChat, Alipay, Douyin, Kuaishou, Baidu, and so on. Apart from tools, we also offer different services to merchants. For example, shop building, private domain operation, live streaming, advertising placement, and so on. Basically, our system is an open ecosystem. This ecosystem strengthens our commercialization capability. We can help ourselves and third-party developers to offer very good applications and services. For example, PaaS capability and customers can enjoy personalized, customized developments.

In this way, we can satisfy KAs need for personalization, and this is low cost. Third-party vendors can also offer some standardized use, and through our commercialization, things can be sold very quickly to Weimob customers. Third-party service providers can offer content, traffic service, module service, and so on. Let's take a look at the PaaS platform. It includes six main parts. T-PaaS, T, technology. This includes multi-tenant architecture, component platform, gateway platform, framework, and tools, one-stop development platform. Developers don't need to be concerned about the architectural structure. They can focus on innovation. T-PaaS. It is the capabilities accumulated over the years. Transaction, order, merchandise, merchants, marketing, membership, payment, logistics capabilities are all combined here. We believe that we are able to save 60%-80% of workload. A-PaaS is zero-code and low-code application innovation platform.

We need a lot of mini-programs, and with this, we can create a lot of new mini applications. This can be effectively integrated with many of our Weimob applications, and we can encourage the prosperous development of the whole ecosystem. For A-PaaS, the zero-code, low-code capability is used in many of our areas, for example, games, home furnishing, and so on. These show the application of A-PaaS. We also offer I-PaaS platform, which is used to link different PaaS uses or applications together. Data capability is given a lot of importance to our customers. B-PaaS. This includes search, statistical analysis, and so on. By means of PaaS, we can offer these capabilities to our customers. We have compared our platform with Salesforce. If you consider Lightning, MuleSoft, Force.com, and so on, we are comparable. We are confident that we have actually built our own product competitive advantage. Thank you.

Sun Taoyong
Chairman of the Board and CEO, Weimob

Thank you very much. Because of time, I will go faster in the latter part of the presentation. We have the new commercial operating system, and then we have an open ecosystem as a result. I said just now that through Smart Retail and also convenience store, supermarket business, we are able to increase our market share, and we are going to enhance penetration in various industries. KA revenue should account for 50%. We believe that we are able to achieve this goal one to two years earlier than targeted. Upgrade full-chain operation capability. Some time ago, we issued an announcement about e-commerce retail segment. First, there is IBU. It is an industrial business unit. There are different industrial clusters. Then it is divided into delivery, merchant operation, TSO.

Basically, it lays the foundation for our operation. Here you can see IBU, CGU, CBU, and there are two lines, customer sales and customer operation. Here you can see a horizontal line for customer sales center and for customer operation center. It is also well-connected. Globalization. I already explained our layout. I won't go into the detail. Next year in 2022, that should be quite good income figure to be released. Now I will pass the floor to our CFO, Mr. Cao.

Cao Yi
CFO, Weimob

Thank you. First of all, investors in the past few hours should have the chance to read our announcement, our results announcement on our website. You should have some understanding about our performance. Now in the first half this year, I will go through some financial highlights. I think these are very related to your point of concern to many investors.

As a growth company, high revenue growth is one significant characteristic of us. In the first half of the year, our revenue was up 44.5% year-on-year. Last year in the first half, it was at a low point because of some payment of expenses. After adjustment, here you can see we still grew 31.7%. Digital commerce up 72.8% for subscription revenue. In the past, we called it SaaS revenue, now subscription revenue. After adjustment, it's up 80.3% year-on-year. Comparing with past years, this is faster growth. Merchant solutions revenue up 63.8% year-on-year. I would like to give a breakdown of our revenue. Here you can see distribution of different segments are rather even. For merchant solutions and subscription solutions, each account for about 30-odd, 40%. For digital media, around 30% share.

For digital commerce, if you look at subscription and merchants, around 62.4 as ratio. For number of paying merchants, subscription solutions 77%, merchant solutions 21%. This year, if you want to understand our financial statements, you need to look at our increased investment. When Mr. Sun made his presentation, he talked about our strategy upgrade, and there are important things that we would like to achieve in the future. In order to drive the future high-speed growth in the coming three to five years, we need to start investment now. Basically, we have our three main strategies, moving up market, ecosystem build-up, globalization. We also need to build a new commercial operating system. In the first half, in order to enhance our industry and operation, and we made high investments.

After considering our investment, here you can see operating expenses as percentage of revenue was higher than in the past. If you disregard the investment for the future, our operating efficiency went up. In 2019, 92%, 2020, 89%, first half this year around 80%. In the past few years, our financial position is solid. As of 30th of June, we have cash on hand, CNY 4.96 billion, so it can support our future development. Let's take a look at some critical figures on the income end. Apart from the growth rate in the first half this year, number of paying merchants grew steadily. As of 30th June, we have 101,000. 11%, roughly, is the attrition rate, more or less the same as last year. Last year in the first half, there was the pandemic impact. In the first half of last year, 15% attrition rate.

If you look at the half-on-half basis, it has much improved this year. ARPU is one highlight in the first half this year. Last year in the first half, it's CNY 3,400. This year in the first half, it rose to CNY 5,400, up 56% year-on-year. This is a high growth. Of course, we increased the price, and there was also somewhat of impact about consolidation into financial statements. ARPU growth is a long-term sustainable process to us. For gross billing, growth was around 40%. GP margin. Our overall GP margin comparing with last year improved. Overall gross margin last year was 49%. It rose to 55% this year. The main reason is that for digital commerce, the revenue accounted for a higher share. For subscription solution, revenue share increased from 25% to 40%.

For merchant solution, it increased from 24%-30% in terms of share of revenue. These are high GP businesses, and as a result, their increase had led to an overall increase in GP margin. Gross margin of subscription solution was slightly down from 76%-74%. This is mainly because we acquired Haiding. Overall GP margin was a bit different. Our own gross margin comparing with last year actually improved. For merchant solution, gross margin decreased because this year, apart from TSO service revenue, we increased some fee in relation to operation service. For that, GP margin is slightly lower for this particular service. Because of a change in portfolio, merchant solution gross margin came down. This is not because of a change in rebate and so on. It's because of change in portfolio or structure.

Gross margin of digital media decreased primarily because of change of strategic focus. In the coming three to five years, we are going to go for strategic upgrade and business growth, we made big investment. We are building our new commercial operating system and PaaS platform and SaaS application platform. Just now, our CEO and CTO already gave a detailed explanation. For our operation structure, we have made some adjustments. COC line was being made separate, and we have made investment in operation platform. In the first half, concerning traffic ecosystem and brand recognition, we have also made some investments. This year, the high investment has led to an increase in R&D investment over revenue. From 16%-32% this year. In the first half, total R&D expenses was CNY 300 million. For operating efficiency, it is improving year-over-year.

In the first half this year, we made investment for future around CNY 290 million. CNY 290 million was mainly selling and administrative expenses. If you deduct or exclude this CNY 290 million, you can see that our selling and administrative expenses account for a lower percentage of revenue. This shows our operating leveraging. In the future, in the coming three to five years, we hope that we can achieve quite good return on our investment.

Finally, our earnings. From the financial statements, comparing with first half last year, CNY 50 odd million adjusted net profit, and we now incur a loss of CNY 210 million. That's because we have made investment of CNY 290 million, and we also consolidated Haiding with CNY 30 million-CNY 40 million loss. If you look at our own core businesses, we have achieved quite good growth in revenue and profit. That's our financial performance. Now we can proceed to Q&A.

Operator

Thank you, management. We will now start Q&A. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one. If you want to cancel a question, please press star two. First question is from Brenda Zhao of CICC, please.

Brenda Zhao
Analyst, CICC

First question. Actually, online, we have got this CRM tool already. How does WeChat cooperate with your company? For existing customers, are they willing to pay? How much are they willing to pay? Second, about investment in first half this year, you invested more into R&D and selling expenses. Under the moving up market strategy, how do you strike a balance between service customization and standardization of products? When do you think you will achieve a break-even? Third question. Last year, you introduced the TSO strategy. What is the progress now? When do you think there will be meaningful revenue contribution? Three questions from me for the time being.

Sun Taoyong
Chairman of the Board and CEO, Weimob

Let me take your first question about WeChat. I think in our product matrix, you can see WeCom Assistant. It is based on SaaS product. It can be grouped together to sell. When merchants buy our Weimob or Smart Dining, they can continue to buy our WeCom Assistant. WeCom Assistant is a product where actually all solutions can be combined with this piece. If you look at the overall progress, perhaps later on our colleague can supplement. Second question is about R&D investment and also customization versus standardization. We want to implement our moving up market strategy, and customers will have more and more customization demands. Why do we want to ecosystem build up and also the new commercial operating system.

By nature, the new operating system helps us solve a lot of personalization issues of key accounts. In the past, when we did not bring in developers, there are many key customers use, which are being standardized into our SaaS. As a result, there are problems. The products will become more and more overly excessive, iteration will be slower as a result. When we have third-party developers, we can do it by means of application. We can solve some KAs, customization, and personalization needs. In the future, it will be very rare that we need to do customization for KA. Now, some merchants may have some sort of needs, then through Weimob, we can then connect to our developers. Developers can develop third-party applications. Customers can just buy directly the third-party application to solve their problems. Overall speed will be faster.

In the future, Weimob Cloud can solve customization problem. At the same time, other application issues can be solved. Our speed will be faster in the future, and we can satisfy merchants' needs. We can be more diversified. Concerning profitability, this year, we made a lot of R&D investments. For the new commercial operating system, we still are doing development work from last year till this year. Assessments, we are still in the process of migration. There are still a lot of things operating on the old system. Next year, for R&D investment, where this year is the peak, next year, that would be within 10% growth in the number of R&D people increase. In the future, I think we will see more stability, and we can achieve breakeven more easily. Third question, progress of TSO.

I will pass the floor to Watson to talk about this. Can you touch a little also on cooperation with WeChat, please?

Yin Shiming
COO, Weimob

Thank you for the questions. WeCom, I think it is very important to us. It is a new trend, WeCom. At a very early stage in the market, we started to offer WeCom related services. The effect is very good because it is based on private domain. In July, WeCom products are being upgraded systematically. There are three versions of WeCom solutions. The first, general WeCom users. It's more or less the same as what you can normally see in the market. The second version is connecting WeCom and the mall. It is an upgraded version. The third version is that we have connected the mall as well as advertising business. There are three versions that we are selling.

In July, for WeCom, we increased price. It seems that the result has been very good. For WeCom, there's the need for bundling some services. There are already number of bundled service providers in between of 1,000 or in thousands. We think that it is going to be a new source of profit. Customers' feedback has been very good. That's about WeCom. For TSO, as Mr. Sun said, in the first half, we had already got 30-odd customers. The situation, the development has been good. When it comes to contract signing, around CNY 30-odd million. Progress has been quite satisfactory. We hope that in the future, in the TSO segment, we can do a better job. We will be selective in doing TSO segment.

With this TSO model, we hope that for each industry, we can iron out the timetable, and through our operating system, we can do standardization, and then we can export products. So far, progress has been smooth and satisfactory. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, Brenda, for the questions. Next question from Thomas Chong of Jefferies. Please, Thomas.

Thomas Chong
Analyst, Jefferies

Good evening, management. I have two questions. First, when KAs revenue contribution increase, so what will be the impact on the selling and marketing expenses as share of revenue? Right now in the advertising industry, it is subject to impact of, for example, education and tourism industries. In the second half, what do you think will be the development trend of the advertising industry? Thank you.

Sun Taoyong
Chairman of the Board and CEO, Weimob

Let me take this question. First, I think when key accounts contribute more to our revenue and profitability, I think the marketing expenses can come down. We will implement moving market strategy. If you look at absolute value, of course, per customer, it will be higher, but the AVC is very high. I think marketing expenses account for a lower share of revenue. For KA by retention as well as AVC and also value per customer developed will be bigger. For our whole company, I think it is very helpful to our revenue growth, and in the future, our marketing expenses can come down. If you look at our sales people, most are selling small to medium-sized products and to small to medium-sized customers. In the future, when we face more and more KA, I think our marketing expenses can come down. Second question about the whole advertising industry.

This year, there are full of challenges in the advertising industry because of the macroeconomy and also regulation over some industries like education, so impact our cost. For the whole company, I think there is some impact over our company. I think around 5%-6%, not a very big impact. Second, overall speaking, in the second half of the year, we will be able to achieve our target. If we are able to do that, there won't be a problem. I think we are able to maintain 40% odds growth. For the overall macro environment, it is not very positive. Tencent advertising business growth in the first half less than 30%, in the second half maybe even lower. For the whole year, around 10%. We need to beat Tencent advertising as a whole, and there must be new channels. Douyin, Kuaishou, for instance.

There's the need for other additional channels. This year, there are, for example, home furnishings, bedding, gowns, and also some new e-commerce. They will generate some growth and increase, they can supplement to our business outcome. If you look at growth income growth, like 30%-40%, I believe. In terms of growth billing, I think we will focus more on merchant solutions. I think that is something that we are more concerned about, in terms of growth billing.

Thomas Chong
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Next question, Brian Gong from Citigroup. Brian, please.

Brian Gong
Analyst, Citigroup

Thank you, management, for taking my questions. For Weimob, in the first half, what is the growth in Q2, Q3? If you separate these quarters, what is the growth trend? Sometimes for Weimob, on WeChat end, in the first half, it seems that growth rate was slower, your data looks strong. What are the reasons behind? In the second half of the year, for e-commerce, Smart Retail, and catering or dining, I think the base figures have already been quite high. What will the development be like in the second half?

Sun Taoyong
Chairman of the Board and CEO, Weimob

I will defer to CFO, Mr. Cao.

Cao Yi
CFO, Weimob

Overall speaking, for Weimob in the first half, revenue growth was almost 40%. All along, we are of the view that Weimob as a solution serving merchants, well, 30%, 40% growth rate is comparable with the competitive landscape in the industry. We will not comment on other peers' performance because we just want to do our job well. For Weimob, 30%-40% growth. When our business is good, 40%. If there are headwinds in the industry, then 30%. I think this range is reasonable.

This year in Q1 and Q2, well, I cannot really disclose the exact figures, but then in Q1, it is slightly better than Q2 on a quarter-on-quarter basis because the base is not the same. In Q1 of last year, the pandemic impact was more severe. In Q1 last year, we were also subject to some impact. Overall speaking, some time ago, we issued an announcement on Q1 growth. In Q1, growth was faster than Q2 on a year-on-year basis. You look at quarter-on-quarter, Q2 of this year is better than Q1 of this year. Last year, because of the pandemic impact, the quarterly allocation or distribution was affected.

Brian Gong
Analyst, Citigroup

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question, Yang Linlin from GF, please.

Yang Linlin
Analyst, GF

Mr. Sun, leaders, greetings. I have a few questions. First, in e-commerce business, competition is very keen from traditional companies or e-commerce platforms.

Various platforms are exerting a lot of effort in development. In the future, what would be the overall layout like? Various platforms want to go for a private domain, so they may have their own private domain ecosystems. If you look at Kuaishou, will there be a possibility of more in-depth collaboration? Second question, just now you talked about the new commercial operating system. So far, how is its progress? When will it be launched? How much will be the investment? In the future, for product pricing, will that be changed from now? Third question, about your cash on hand. You have quite adequate cash on hand. How are you going to use the money?

Sun Taoyong
Chairman of the Board and CEO, Weimob

Let me take these questions. First question, about various platforms' efforts to develop private domain business. Well, Xinje announced that they will go for private domain.

There is some macro background related to the protection of users' data. Platforms would like to go for private domain. In the past, for Douyin, they operated mainly on public domain. They also do live streaming, traffic is mainly from the public domain. We know that Douyin has also introduced the corporate accounts, and they are laying foundation for private domain. We think that when platforms or ecosystems want to do private domain, this is good to us. In their ecosystem, we can offer relevant solution. We think that in the future, in the private domain area, if they have a clearer view, well, perhaps they can co-build with third party, and in the long run, this is not something bad. I think that WeChat is the best private domain carrier.

In the future, for Taobao private domain, what will be the strategy and development height or depth? I think at that time, well, we can continue to keep a close eye. If they embrace private domain, definitely not by means of platform, but ecosystem. I think this represents an opportunity to us. When we talk about the possibility of in-depth cooperation, in the past, Douyin and Kuaishou operated mainly on public domain. We offer mini programs in private domain to them. They don't have too much incentive to introduce mini program. They would rather do live streaming. I think when it comes to private domain, if they attach a lot of importance to private domain, there may be the chance of more in-depth collaboration. That's my judgment, so far, the situation is not very clear yet.

We don't know whether they are treating or developing private domain as a slogan or a real strategy. We hope that we are able to complete the migration of the first customer within the end of this year. At the end of this year, our overall new commercial operating system will be online. Future product pricing, I don't think there will be much change. There would be a clear change. When it comes to products that we are selling, they will be more diversified. They won't be single homogeneous products. We will offer a system, CRM or CDP, there will be many products. In the future, it is going to be a product mix. We may be selling ecosystem products. For example, Smart Retail solutions, and also our Wei Station and so on.

I think the average price will even be higher, because we are talking about ecosystem products. The pricing of original products won't change. I think value from individual customer will be bigger. After the new system is online, in the future, through our ecosystem, there will be the sale of a third-party application. Still, we are in nurturing stage. We still need one to two years to nurture our ecosystem. In the future, there would be more contribution from this segment. Starting from last year to this year, we are making plan and arrangements in relation to investment or M&A. This is about inorganic growth. In the future, there may be some M&A. We are deliberating on some projects. In the future, there may be such possibility. Basically, that's it.

Yang Linlin
Analyst, GF

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Liao Yuan from CITIC Securities.

Liao Yuan
Analyst, CITIC Securities

Mr. Sun. Thank you, management, for your time tonight. I have two main questions. First, Mr. Sun, for key accounts, if their revenue contribution or share is bigger, then what will be the short-term change in gross margin from 35% to 50%? That is the increase in share, what will be the change in gross margin? What will be the long-term stable range? Second question is about TSO. Just now it is said that for TSO, you will select some large benchmark customers to work with. What are the criteria for choice or selection criteria for TSO? In which industries or sectors do you think that there would be a better growth?

Sun Taoyong
Chairman of the Board and CEO, Weimob

Let me comment first and then Mr. Cao can supplement. For key accounts, their share of revenue will go up, and in the future, marketing expenses will come down.

For key accounts, we will invest more in R&D, so the result may not be seen in gross margin. In the future, there would be some improvement in our marketing expenses. Mr. Cao can supplement. About TSO benchmarks, Watson can comment.

Cao Yi
CFO, Weimob

As Mr. Sun said, for key accounts, usually for a full life cycle, we communicated in the past with investors, LTV, CAC, multiples, is much bigger than small to medium customers. I think investors should look over the long term, full life cycle. You should not only look at the prevailing gross margin or profitability. For key accounts, if you look at start and R&D is more complicated than medium-sized customers, so R&D effort will be more.

For key accounts, the stickiness and attrition rate will be such that the return on the whole life cycle from key accounts is better than small to medium customers. Please look at the overall situation. For TSO, as said just now, we will be selective in the industry. Well, we have talked about a few cases, for example, home furnishing, catering, fashion, apparel, and so on. There are some specific case studies in each industry that can help us generate benchmarks. Apart from some of the customers which are already cooperating with us, I think the benchmark cases will be very obvious. We will look at whether the customers have benchmark effect. Fashion, clothing, F&B, home furnishing, materials, and so on. These are our main areas of focus. Thank you.

Yin Shiming
COO, Weimob

Let me supplement. Well, our selection criteria. When we work on TSO, we want to offer a comprehensive service to customer. We have to look at its brand influence, total volume, and investment into private domain. If we can have 100 benchmark companies working with us, they can generate a demonstration effect. We will operate a private domain. In the future, we will be able to conclude more methods of operation. There will be optimization of operation. The solution can be offered to more and more merchants. In the future, we hope that our merchants can be offered a very comprehensive operating system. Through building the benchmark customers, we can accumulate more experience. Things can be generalized or transferred to many other merchants and customers.

Liao Yuan
Analyst, CITIC Securities

Okay. Thank you. Management.

Operator

Thank you. Next question. Credit Suisse, Kyna Wong. Kyna, please.

Kyna Wong
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Mr. Sun, Mr. Cao, greetings. I have one question. In fact, I have two questions. Regarding Haiding, strategy about Haiding, how can you expand the operation? The company wants to enter different verticals, including shopping mall management and other types of management. In the future, do you think competition will be more intense? You may be getting into more different products. In the future, how are you going to deal with the subsequent competition? My second question is, your first half results exceeded our original expectation. In the second half, what do you think will be your full year growth in subscription solutions? Also, comparing with your original target, is there any change? In the first half, your results were good. Are you going to adjust your targets or revise your target?

Sun Taoyong
Chairman of the Board and CEO, Weimob

First question, Haiding, we want to develop more industries. Now, we want to go for different industries. We want to deepen our penetration into each industry. In supermarkets, convenience stores, and so on. In the past, Haiding mainly offered ERP products, and in business and marketing, they did not have much advantage. For us, I think we also face some competitors. They also offer relevant service to them. With the integration of Haiding and Weimob, I think it is very helpful to our future product creation, because when it comes to mall department stores, convenience stores and supermarkets, on the marketing end, of course, our product capability is a lot stronger than the other competitors in those areas.

Our products can connect to ERP of the mid to back office. With our marketing and sales capabilities, data, transaction capabilities, all these can be seamlessly integrated with the products. In the future, I think Haiding is going to be very competitive in products.

This will help us in developing the industry. Of course, when we enter each industry, there will be some potential competitors. We will use our ecosystem advantage and our brand and our existing product capabilities and customers that we are serving to enhance our own competitiveness. In the future, for each industry, I think we'll be facing similar problems. Our new commercial operating system and PaaS, after being built, will strengthen our product competitiveness. In the second half, if you talk about our estimate, we have the moving up market strategy. I think it is going to be very effective. For advertising, this year, because of the macro environment, advertising did not do very well. I think growth will not exceed 20%. We cannot come up to very optimistic estimates, so we will maintain our original estimates. Mr. Cao can supplement.

Cao Yi
CFO, Weimob

Right. We will not revise the full-year estimate, even though our first half results exceeded expectation. We anticipate that because of the macro situation and pandemic and some industry impact, I think some of our measures will be subject to impact. In August, we are now in August, and I think the whole year's target given three years ago should be achievable. We will not revise the estimate. At the end of the year, we will have further communication with investors.

Kyna Wong
Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Due to time constraints, we will now conclude today's call. On behalf of the Weimob management team, I would like to thank you for your participation in today's conference call. If you have further questions about Weimob, please feel free to contact the IR team. Thank you

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