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Earnings Call: Q1 2025

Apr 30, 2025

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. I am Mina, your chorus call operator. Welcome, and thank you for joining the Ford Otosan share conference call and live webcast to present and discuss the Q1 2025 financial results. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mrs. Gül Ertuğ, Chief Financial Officer, and Mr. Ünal Arslan, Corporate Finance Leader. Mrs. Ertuğ, you may now proceed.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Thank you very much. Hello, everyone. Welcome to our Q1 financial results presentation. This time around, Ünal and myself, we will be doing the presentation because now currently our friend, our colleague, Bahar, is on maternity leave. My friends from investor relations department, Duygu, Hamza, will help us. Everybody welcome. Let's move to our presentation with the highlights. Now we have concluded our first quarter. In fact, as Ford Otosan internal reporting, I would like to say that we have concluded quite a successful quarter with respect to our budget and projections. We have beaten our internal targets. While we were preparing for this call, last night, we issued our results to the KAP platform.

Afterwards, I had the chance to read several reports from your side. Over there, I felt that maybe in this call we will need to make a little bit more detailed explanation on some of our financial treatments. One key topic showing up is, in fact, the effect of the inflation accounting reflecting in our figures. I think this has been something important because in this period, when we compare the first quarter 2025 to Q1 2024, the revaluation we have used in order to come up to the inflation level, in order to make it apples to apples, is 38%. Whereas the euro appreciation versus Turkish lira is 17%. This had an implication. Ünal will talk more about on that one in the financial section.

I think our treatment of the embedded lease concept, since we have Ford Motor Company as our key customer, we are in certain vehicle lines, we are doing most of the production and the wholesale to Ford Motor Company. We have to deploy this embedded lease concept and its treatment on the EBITDA calculation. I think it has been maybe not correctly represented on some of your reports. We will leave some detailed session to make the explanations on them. Having said that, let me just touch on the very important key highlights coming from first quarter. If we look into the domestic market, our performance in the domestic market, in fact, now we are in the second position in terms of rankings.

In the earlier talks, we were always telling you that we are in number three position. Now we moved one notch up with a market share of 8.3% levels. You know our key strength is commercial vehicles. In the total commercial vehicle market in Turkey, we are protecting our number one position with a 28.9% market share. In this period, the domestic volumes have increased by 3% with respect to the Q1 of 2024. However, the revenues were down by 16%. In this one, this effect of the inflation revaluation plays a role. As I said, Ünal will go into the details for that one. If we focus on the export performance, again, very successful and in line with our expectations, in line with our budget and projections.

We have reached 140,000 export sales. Here, the export volumes and revenues decreased 4%. In fact, later in the presentation, I will speak to the market a little bit. There has been some reduction in the export markets, but this is in line with our expectations when we were giving you our first guidance. To be honest with you, it is a little bit slightly better than that projection. Other than the market, something specific to ourselves as Ford Otosan, you know we are currently in the ramp-up period of some of our newly launched models. The Puma Gen-E, E- Courier, electric versions, BEV versions have been launched, and they are in the ramp-up periods. In the earlier talks, we had also informed you about our developments regarding the one-ton partner production.

Over there in December, we had told you that the one-ton partner production launches have come to life. Over there, within waves and bundles, we are continuing to deliver a successful ramp-up plan for also the one-ton partner volumes. Things are, from where we look, in fact in line with our expectations, and we are delivering our targets. Currently, the profitability level across the board on the consolidated company view, we were telling you that we are expecting some level of normalization in profitability because our business is shifting towards more export units and more electrification is coming into the game. That is also something planned and expected. Out of this, we have been able to deliver a EBITDA margin of 7.8%.

The average EBITDA per vehicle reached EUR 1,856. Over here, I can also say that there is an improvement. There is movements towards the better end, so, we are also successful on this one. For the financial section, Ünal will give more details, but on this highlight section, I wanted to include our covenant multiplier, the Net Debt/EBITDA levels. Now we have managed to bring this level to 2.03x. So it has improved very much since 2024 year-end levels. On the very right section of the page, you are seeing our new deliveries, new vehicles. The E-Courier and new Puma Gen-E have started production, and they have obtained the phrase we use for going into the markets.

We call it, as maybe some of you will remember, okay to buy has been achieved, and now these units are being dispatched to their intended target markets. Currently, our capacity utilization is at 71%. The Turkey bit is 67, and Romania bit is 80%. You will remember that in the earlier talks we had mentioned about the kickoff of the partner volumes, the overall enterprise capacity reaching the 934.5 Ks. Within that capacity, especially regarding the partners, the ramp-up operation is still progressing. That's why, at this point in time, it's not an anomaly or it's not a bad indicator that Turkey capacity utilization is at 67%. We are ramping up also in that range. Let's move to the other slide.

Over here, I just want to touch, like I'm not going to read all of it, but, for the ones who remember this view, we can say that on all of the representation, in fact, our numbers have improved. Out of Turkey's total vehicle production, now we are representing 31%. The key thing, key important thing for us is the commercial vehicle production, and for that one, we are representing the 86%. With respect to our position, our strategic position in Ford, now Ford Otosan is producing 78% of overall commercial vehicle sales in Europe. With, you know, with our Puma, we also have existence in the passenger vehicle. With our Puma production, Ford Otosan's share in the Ford's passenger car sales in Europe reached to 40%. We are the undisputed leader of exports in Turkey.

Now, we are representing the 91% of Turkey's commercial vehicle exports. This is a page that we are really proud of. Let's move on to maybe further details on some market dynamics. Let me start with the domestic markets, Turkish automotive markets. You see, in fact, this is essentially a passenger vehicle market. Currently, in this quarter, the overall level is almost 79%. It's more than 1Q24. And within that one, the total, if you look into the total values, in fact, we see a market contraction of 7%. But when we look into this, I think we should also recognize the base impact of the Q1 2024.

You will remember that at that time we were talking about the GSR regulation coming into play. Before that safety regulation kicks in, everybody, all the OEMs wanted to sell their vehicles. There was the effects of the pre-election period. Also, there was the effect of the disabled individuals certificates impact. This was a strong base. From that base, it came down a little bit. Like I said, even if we see that contraction with respect to our projections and plannings, it is still not at a drastically bad level. Maybe the pace in the months of January and February were kind of slow. In March, especially towards the end of March, unfortunately since nineteenth of March, we have seen some developments in our country.

Later on with some effects, global effects coming through Trump actions, there has been some volatility, I would say increased volatility. But over there we have seen an increased level of sales. Maybe just people having the signal that, okay, if things in the aftermath after these developments, if the prices go up or if there will be further volatility, this might have triggered some pull ahead of the demand such that people purchased more. But overall, let's move to the following page and let's look at how we did over there. So as I said, we are in the number 2 position. We are at the second level. And with respect to the overall change, in fact, we have lost some ground.

However, I think I should emphasize over here that the last year's disabled certificate application, this year it no longer applies to us due to the changes deployed into the rules of that. When you look into the details of the pages, maybe you will recognize that the Toyota brand has been seeing the positive impacts of those changes. All in all, though, since we kept up our pace on the MCV, LCV, the ramp up effect of, especially the LCV units caught up. Still we are progressing with the newly launched series. We have managed to keep our position on the LCV. We are in number one rankings.

with the base impact of the 1Q 2024 over there, you might remember we were telling that the deliveries to Turkey from Craiova were a little bit slow versus export. that caught up. We have gained our momentum over there and going strongly. On the MCV, we are undisputed leaders. even though there has been from a number perspective, there has been a reduction from the market share perspective, in fact, we have gained 2.9 points reaching a market share of 37.6. on the truck level, we are at second position.

Maybe within all this listing, I should say that from a demand perspective, the area where we are seeing the greatest contraction is on the trucks units. Later when we delve into the revenue makeup, you will see that the mix impact within our sales has been different due to this, if you compare 2024 to 2025. Let's move to the following page. Look into the exports. We have been waiting for the ACEA report to highlight this page. Before that, some of you reading the earnings release have seen individual market data relating to U.K., Germany, several others. Now on the page, we are able to see the final commercial vehicle market level.

In fact, over there, with the total sum of the EU plus UK markets, we are seeing a contraction of 12.4%. In the first quarter, we can say that the European demand has been down. The European van market is down by 11.9% and European truck markets even more. This is showing the signs of demand coming down. However, in this environment, Ford Motor Company kept its position. The number one ranking is intact, plus in fact a significant success on the take-up of the vehicles because the market share now reached 19.3%. Year-over-year there is an increase of 4.3%. Within this view, Ford Otosan is producing 78% of the units over there.

We can say that it is very healthy. Even though the market is coming down, Ford has been able to gain up the market share. Again, maybe some of you who had the chance to attend the original guidance when we were talking about the view, how we think of the European market. We were saying that in comparison to 2024, we are expecting a reduction in the demand. However, we were also saying that now, thanks to our one-ton partners, we are entering the new era of also producing the nameplate Transporter, the one-ton units for the Volkswagen. With the step up functionality of it, we will be seeing an increase. In our financials, we are seeing that. Going forward into the remainder of the year, in fact, we will be seeing it more.

That's why even though there is this contraction, our physical performance has been much better than this. Let's move to the following page. This time around, I wanted to give the breakdown of our markets explicitly. I will speak to this page a little bit because I think now everybody is a little bit worried about the tariff situation. Now, after Mr. Trump came into his reins, his charge, there has been significant changes affecting the auto industry. One common question we are getting from anybody, I would say, is, "How will this affect you?" "How will Ford Otosan get affected by these changes?" The answer to this question is, as the immediate impact, in fact, we are not expecting Ford Otosan to be adversely affected.

Because on the screen you are seeing our markets and the export breakdown out of our Türkiye operations. 25% goes to UK, 19% Germany, 10% Italy, 8% France, 21% Western Europe, 11% Eastern Europe, and the other section is just 6%. You will remember that we are the sole producer for the one-ton units, the custom units. In comparison to our overall production scheme, this is constituting a very, very little portion. If we look into the export breakdowns of Romania, where we ship those units from Romania. Again, the biggest market is UK, 23%, Germany 8%, Italy 19%, France 5%, Western Europe 16%, Eastern Europe 7%. Türkiye, where we are selling our Pumas and Couriers, Türkiye is 20%.

This page, I hope explains that, we operating in Türkiye and Romania, through the Customs Union actions, we are in fact a part of Europe. We can consider it like that. Our key destination markets are mostly European. That's why we are not going to have an adverse impact in the first round. What I mean by that, if like, if looking into the future, if some of the other OEMs who are thinking of exporting to U.S., but because of these, new trade changes, the tariff changes, if they happen to lose their chances in those markets, and if they come into our markets, we might have an effect.

However, over there in this action, I would like to mention the 19% levels of market share in Ford Pro, which shows that Ford's logic, Ford's value proposition for those markets really is working. It is quite intact. The commercial vehicle space is a different space. It requires significantly customized units directly serving to the needs of the customers. Over there, we believe we have produced those vehicles, and we have put in place the necessary network to make those deliveries. That's why we are not expecting an adverse effect out of this. For our parts business, you know, we also have we are supporting some of the North America plants producing the two-ton. We have some part sales over there.

It's not constituting a huge sum, but on some of those part numbers, due to the tariff changes, we have seen an increase in their. In fact, that cost will be reflected to the North America Ford plants. We are not seeing a business-related risk because those parts are to be used in the production operations of the North America plants. What this essentially means is they will just cost a little bit more to them, but there is no business risk to Ford Otosan. Let's continue to the following page. Some very important key developments since our last gathering. On the left-hand side of the page, you are seeing our Puma Gen-E and E- Courier, our new babies. We have launched them.

The okay to buy is in place, and now the volumes are ramping up. Everything all good. On the right-hand side of the page, we are showing a very important development for our Ford Trucks operations. You know, Ford Trucks is an entrepreneurial part of our business. We have first completed the agreement between Ford Motor Company and Ford Otosan for the truck business and trademark licensing rights. Now, this business has been extended to 2038. Right after that, in fact, in sync with that, we have also signed a joint development agreement between Ford Otosan and Iveco. Our intention is to co-develop the next generation heavy truck cabins, which will serve the EU safety and emission regulations.

Over there, we have declared an overall investment of EUR 343 million in the shared development costs. Our production targets timing for this new cabin is 2028. Let's move to the following page. Over here, I will leave the word to Ünal. Ünal, floor is yours.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

Thanks. Thank you, Gül Hanım. Hello and welcome all. In terms of financials, I'll start with a very, very short summary. I can say that the first quarter of this year, as Gül Hanım also mentioned, was in line with our plans and expectations. Before going into details of our first quarter financials, I first want to talk very briefly about the impact of macroeconomics and accounting methodology on our financials, which helps to interpret quarter-over-quarter results better. In fact, we have been talking about those for almost all our webcasts. Just a reminder, it can be seen on the first box in this slide, top left box.

81% of our revenue is coming from export sales, for which TL movement of our financials, which our financials are based, the TL movement driver is euro currency rather than inflation for us. Even for domestic sales, automotive sector in Turkey, pricing driver is not mainly inflation, but euro-TL currency as well. However, quarter-over-quarter analysis are done with inflation index figures from previous years, as you all know. Inflation rate is 38% for this period, last year's quarter one to this year's quarter one. Whereas the euro strengthening at the same time against TL was only 17%. That's just a reminder. Looking at our first quarter financial highlights of this year, 2025, our domestic revenue decreased by 16%, while domestic sales volume increased by 3%.

Decrease in the revenue is mainly driven by lower exchange movement compared to inflation, as I just explained. Vehicle sales mix that I'll talk in the coming slides, and lower pricing opportunity, especially in the passenger vehicle segment because of increased competition. Our export revenue decrease is parallel to our export volume decrease by 4%. In fact, here as well, exchange movement was not in favor of our export revenue, whereas sales mix helped us to recover revenue reduction coming from exchange movement in export sales. As a result, our total revenue decreased by 6%. Our EBITDA also decreased from TRY 15.6 billion to TRY 12.5 billion. Excluding other items, EBITDA also decreased to TRY 14.3 billion.

Again, from 14.3 billion Turkish liras to 11.3 billion Turkish liras. Again, versus index numbers. These are in line with our expectations. EBITDA calculation includes add back of depreciation, as we all know by the book, but also includes embedded lease release add back. Again, this is by the book and with confirmation of the independent auditors, of course. Embedded lease amount added back to the calculation of EBITDA for this period is amounting to 1.2 billion Turkish liras. Practically, this is no different than depreciation. Embedded lease is coming from new one-ton vehicle investments in Turkey and Puma investments in Craiova. These assets are classified under other receivables due from related parties in current and non-current assets in the balance sheet. You can see the total figure there.

That's an accounting treatment, and normally, previously, if we didn't have any embedded lease, these assets, these line items, these other receivables due from related parties line items were being booked into the fixed asset lines and being amortized accordingly. Currently, according to the accounting treatment, we are just reclassifying these assets to these new other receivables due from related parties. This is a lease asset line. The expense is going to the lease expense line, which is offsetting the revenue line. This practically very much the same as depreciation, and that's why EBITDA calculations add back that lease expense into the amount. The total amount of these assets by the end of this quarter in the balance sheet is TRY 2.2 billion. You can just make the calculation.

These are being released throughout the life cycle of the products that are being produced out of these assets. If we come to the reasons of decreases in EBITDA, we can name slightly lower sales and lower pricing capability in the domestic market, as I just mentioned about because of increased competition and increase in export share in our overall business. It's 81% this year. It was 79% previous year. Continuation of strong Turkish lira versus euro and lower Ford Trucks and Ranger sales in domestic market, which had a high profit margin last year. In parallel to the EBITDA, operating profit also decreased year-over-year by 37% to TRY 7.8 billion. With the same reasons I explained for EBITDA with reduction while keeping our operating expenses similar to previous year.

When we come to the PBT and PAT, decreases versus last year are 33% and 48% respectively. We continue to have monetary gain in PBT because of our high monetary liability position in the balance sheet, but comparatively lower than last year, mainly because of lower inflation in the first quarter of this year. It's 10%. Previous year it was first quarter of last year it was 15%. Although we have lower monetary gain compared to last year, we have higher other and financial income offsetting this impact, and our PBT is TRY 9.2 billion, again, in line with our expectations. In terms of PAT, though, we continue our investment subject to incentives, which continue to drive a good level of deferred tax income. That's there as well.

However, you see a significant increase in our IFRS tax expense quarter-over-quarter, again, from TRY 1.3 billion to TRY 2.7 billion. This is mainly coming from increasing cash flow hedge reserves in the equity because of euro strengthening against Turkish lira in March, which creates a deferred tax liability and temporary differences in two books also, namely tax book and IFRS books. Temporary differences also create a deferred tax impact depending on the direction which is liability for this period, obviously. These differences may change from period to period, again, depending on the difference between CPI and PPI rates. Why? Because, as you all know, tax books are indexed with PPI under inflation accounting, whereas IFRS books are indexed with CPI.

Because we have huge tangible and intangible assets, that indexation difference may be significantly different in different periods in, you know, period to period. This does not mean that the impact will be in the same direction or same amount for all quarters for the coming periods, but it may differ according to the CPI and PPI movements. If we move to the next page, okay. Looking at our margins, although we see a decrease compared to the same quarter of last year for all profitability margins, we are both in line with our guidance in terms of EBITDA margin and better than margins we had in the previous quarters or, last quarter of, previous year, quarter four of previous year, other than net margin because of the reasons I mentioned a couple of minutes ago.

Our first quarter EBITDA margin is 7.8%, down by 1.3 percentage points versus same quarter of last year. Operating margin is 4.8%, down by 2.4 percentage points. PBT margin's 5.7%, again, down by 2.3 percentage points. As Gül Hanım already mentioned, we can say that first quarter of this year was tough in terms of competition Turkish domestic market and did not leave much space for pricing. However, we managed to clear our comparably aged inventory, which had a negative impact due to inflation accounting for this quarter, but good for the future. We also kept our focus on costs, including operating expenses. Euro strengthening by middle of March against Turkish lira helped us to achieve higher margins than Q4 of 2014.

As you may remember, we have been talking about euro movement importance in our financials. With that, our EBITDA per vehicle became to be EUR 1,856, which was EUR 1,906 last year, which is very close to that, and also much better than last quarter of 2024. In the next page, we see the EBITDA bridge versus same quarter of last year. Our EBITDA is TRY 12.5 billion this quarter, down by TRY 3.1 billion versus the same quarter of last year. However, again, here I want to mention that TRY 15.6 billion of last year's EBITDA is the inflation index amount with 38%.

Like our revenue, our profits movement is based on exchange, more specifically euro TL exchange rather than inflation. If you look at the movement, very shortly, I can mention that our revenue is decreasing by TRY 10.6 billion, again, versus the inflation index amount. Similarly, cost of goods sold is decreasing as well by TRY 6.8 billion. As I mentioned in the previous slides, our operating expenses are very much similar to the previous year's level. We end up with TRY 12.5 billion of EBITDA. Until this slide, I mentioned numerous times about euro TL and inflation movements.

Here, what we see in the top, in the left top box is in the first quarter of this year, inflation and euro TL movements are parallel, which we expect by the way, that's a good thing for us, by 10% and 11% respectively. However, euro strengthening happened only in the month of March. February year-to-date increase was only 4%, even below. We could see the good news coming from the exchange for only one month of the first quarter. From the first quarter of last year to this quarter, euro strengthening is only 17%, as I mentioned before, whereas inflation is 13%-38%, which is the base for inflation indexation.

Interest rates on the other hand shows a declining trend versus first quarter of last year, which also kind of had a positive impact on the Turkish domestic market size. It shrank versus first quarter of previous year. However, Gül Hanım already mentioned the reasons of the base impact for previous year. For this year, although it's lower than previous year's same quarter, the market size is higher than most of the expectations, I can say. In the next slide, we have already talked about sales volumes and market shares. What I can very shortly say on this data is in terms of revenues and also profits, I mentioned a couple of times mix issues, sales mix issues. Here we see an increase of 3% in the domestic sales.

However, Ford truck sales and Ranger sales decreased by 25% and 45% respectively, which have higher revenues and profits per vehicle. In the next slide, again, we have discussed almost all line items of our income statement. You can see the embedded lease amount that I tried to explain a couple of minutes ago below as TRY 1.2 billion for this period, and it was TRY 408 million in the Q1 of 2024. In the next page, we will see the balance sheet figures and also cash flow figures. Our balance sheet is as always as healthy as it always was. Our cash generation for this quarter is on the right-hand side of the page, significantly positive.

Net cash from operating activities is around TL 30 billion, thanks to the improvement we realized in net working capital. That was the area we had been talking about in our previous couple of webcasts, and we managed to improve that. The net cash used in investing activities is lower. We made lower capital spending this quarter in line with our investment plans, which allowed us to reduce our cash need from financing activities and reduce our net debt level. However, I need to mention that our investment plans are in place. Maybe what I can say is the calendarization of the investments may differ. As a result of these positive developments in cash generation, we ended up in the first quarter of 2025 with a cash level of TL 49 billion.

In the next slide, regarding our financial indicators, our total financial debt increased by 2% only since the end of last year, whereas our cash level almost doubled. As a result, our net financial debt decreased by 20% to the level of TRY 89 billion. In parallel to that, our net debt over EBITDA ratio is realized to be 2.03, which is lower than 2024 year-end close. As you know, our covenant, official covenant in some of our loans is 3.5 times. We are well below our covenant level. As I mentioned earlier, we will continue our investments as planned, which will naturally have an impact on leverage, depending on the exchange movement and EBITDA level, along with planned investments.

Covenant level may increase, but we don't foresee it exceeding 2.5 times sustainably. The last data point I will touch is the FX position here, which is at a reasonable level by TRY 3.3 billion long. Now I will leave the word to Gül Hanım Ertuğ again for 2025 guidance. Thank you.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Thank you very much, Ünal. In fact, maybe it will be a short talk over here because my key message is that we are keeping our guidance. We haven't changed any data over here. As far as we evaluate our business, everything is on track, and we are progressing as planned. In fact, if we think of the first three months action, both domestic and export markets, maybe we could even say that even if we see the contraction, it is slightly better than what we had originally anticipated. In an earlier webcast, in fact, I had received the question: Do you see an upside potential or a downside potential to your guidance? The answer at the time I had given was, we have created a balanced view.

As long as our launches, our plans, the ramp-up plans and the launch plans are intact, there is the potential for an upward tick. If the numbers, the volumes, wholesale sales figures could be even better than this. If we see an issue in the launch cadence, it could be worse than that. I'm keeping the same position, even if the seasonally adjusted annual rate of the first three months indicates possibly a larger industry in Turkey. With the success of the one-ton partner Volkswagen units, there could be a potential for an upside. We are not just releasing it yet.

We want to be also cautious on that one because I believe you are also curious about the increased interest levels, whether or not this volatility and this uncertainty is going to change some changes in the demand projection. So far, within our own order banks and within our own planning with Ford Motor Company, we haven't seen anything in contradiction to our original budgeting. For that reason, we are keeping our plans as shown in the original guidance. Having said this, I think now it's time for your questions.

Operator

The first question is from the line of Hanzade Kılıçkıran there with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Hanzade Kılıçkıran
Executive Director- Equity Research, J.P. Morgan

Good afternoon, Gül Hanım, Ünal Bey. Thank you very much for the presentation and clarification about this. I just want to make a follow-up about your export performance. How do you see the order book after inventory optimization on Ford Motor? I mean, is it reasonable to assume export volume picking up by second quarter and an accelerated volume performance in the third and the fourth quarter? That's my first question. Second, does your margin guidance include the recent strength in euro? I mean, if this euro strength is going to stay, is it reasonable to assume that you are by far comfortable to achieve this? Maybe if things go right, you can even exceed it because that's not in your guidance. I'm not really sure about this.

There has been some pickup in the OpEx over sales ratio in the first quarter when compared to last quarter, I mean, Q4. Is there any one-off item here, or is it purely because of softer revenues, despite you continue on cost-cutting measures? Thank you.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Thank you, Hanzade Hanım. Let me start with your first question. It's regarding the Ford Motor Company volumes over there. In fact, in the first quarter, maybe your question is referring to mostly the effect we are seeing in our tables regarding the two-ton units. Over there we see a quarter-to-quarter decrease. In fact, in the market share of Ford Pro, we are seeing that in fact the product is very successful. Over there, Ford Motor Company itself also maintained a stock optimization strategy in their respective national sales countries and dealerships. We can think that there is also a working capital enhancement going on in the Ford Motor Company end.

Other than that, like I said, within our programming, meetings and within the order banks, we are still seeing enough data to support the export volume we have shown on this guidance page. We will be very carefully following the developments because I'm sure I believe it is also difficult for you. There are, especially regarding these tariffs, there is a different notification, different explanation every day. If I picked up today's executive order in the morning, if I understood it correctly, maybe there will be further ease from Mr. President Trump coming on that one. We will be very cautiously watching the space to see where it settles. Over here, at this point in time, at least let me put it that way.

At this point in time, we do not see an issue in our product projections. I believe the key strength we have over here is due to the nature of the products. The products are highly customized. They are in line with the customer's needs. That's why any change towards this in a very short period of time would not be possible. It's a successful one, both with the product hardware attributes and also thanks to the Ford Pro services network, the uptime, everything in line with the needs of the commercial vehicle customers. I think we have a strong position over there. Your second question was about the margin levels, right? How Euro-

Hanzade Kılıçkıran
Executive Director- Equity Research, J.P. Morgan

It's about, yeah. I don't know whether the current strength in Euro was reflected in your guidance before. Probably not, right? I mean.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

For this, of course, the first three months actual, with the calculations, our reporting is in TL, the translation of the euro revenues into TL, paying attention to the inflation accounting and the effects, through the monetary gain. We have reflected everything that is happening in the first three months. You can take that as a given. For the rest of the year when we are looking into our guidance, of course, we have a certain methodology for our forecasting. We have assumptions for how we see the CPI, PPI, euro TL levels, end of period levels, average levels, the euro dollar parity.

We are not disclosing them, but we are maybe as a comfort, I can tell you that, with regards to the actual materialization, we are reflecting the latest forecast into this. I don't know if this answers your question fully, and if, Ünal, if you want to say something additional, please go ahead and jump in.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

No, I think we can say in short, as you just said, I mean, that reflects the latest euro TL strengthening. It's not much, but compared to previous year and last quarters, it's of course something for us, not very much. In terms of our business and profitability, euro TL and euro being stronger against TL is good. We can say that's a range, our guidance is a range, and that range is, we can say, still valid, Hanzade Hanım.

Hanzade Kılıçkıran
Executive Director- Equity Research, J.P. Morgan

All right. Thank you. About this inventory optimization in Ford Motor, I think that's a global theme. All global auto manufacturers are reducing the inventory now. I mean, since Ford Motor has already reached like 19% market share, I presume that they did quite right pricing and probably get rid of the inventory. Do you think that we may see acceleration because of this inventory optimization? I mean, maybe concluded in Ford Motor this time? I'm not really sure about this. I try to understand.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Mm.

Hanzade Kılıçkıran
Executive Director- Equity Research, J.P. Morgan

Which quarter we may see this pickup now on Ford Otosan side so that you can. I mean, I don't have any concern around the guidance level. I'm trying to understand the timing.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Maybe Hanzade Hanım, maybe you will have to ask that question to Ford Motor Company, because, like, over here, I'm trying to explain as much as I can, but I also want to be careful with my position because I'm representing Ford Otosan, and I should be cautious not to say something wrong or maybe make an over-commitment on behalf of Ford Motor Company. I think that is all I will be able to say at this point in time.

Hanzade Kılıçkıran
Executive Director- Equity Research, J.P. Morgan

All right. Okay. Understood. No worries. Thank you very much.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Thank you. Did you have any questions?

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

The other question.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Yeah. There was something else I think we missed.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

Yes. Gül Hanım, maybe if you allow me, I can just mention about it. Hanzade Hanım, you asked about operational expenses also as your last question, as far as I remember. What I can say in short is, it's, there's not a standalone or one-off item in our operational expenses. The ratio that you mentioned, OpEx over sales ratio is because of, you know, revenues a little bit decreased. Operational expenses are kind of stable. You know, they are mostly fixed costs other than marketing and sales expenses. Part of sales expenses are variable, like distribution costs and warranty expenses. But they are kind of stable and the ratio increased because of that.

Hanzade Kılıçkıran
Executive Director- Equity Research, J.P. Morgan

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question is from the line of Evgeniya Bystrova with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Evgeniya Bystrova
VP, and EEMEA Corporate Credit Research Analyst, Barclays

Hello. Good evening. Thank you very much for the presentation. Apologies if I may have missed that, but could you please explain what happened to your working capital in the first quarter, which drove also your free cash flow? Thank you.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Ünal, can you explain it once again, please?

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

Yes.

Evgeniya Bystrova
VP, and EEMEA Corporate Credit Research Analyst, Barclays

Sorry.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Hamza, Duygu, if you can go to the related page, maybe it will be easier to speak to that.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

The question is, Evgeniya, about working capital, right? I mean, in the cash flow section I mentioned about, I mean, net cash from operating activities is mainly, you know, coming from, in fact, in the detailed financials, sheet, you can see that's got almost TRY 18 billion improvement or cash in is coming from, net working capital, improvement. So that's there what we improve is, you know, mostly trade payables. I mean, kind of adjusted our, you know, payable. It's not adjusted the same terms, but better management of payables and receivables mostly, we generated higher cash. In terms of days, net working capital cycle days, you don't see that improvement here.

Again, it's 28, 29, almost the same as previous year, full year, because this is a rolling calculation, and this is just a days calculation over, you know, receivables and cost of goods sold throughout that period. We will see the good news of that improvement throughout the year. That's our expectation. In the first quarter from, you know, beginning of this quarter to end of first quarter, we generated a huge amount of cash through our net working capital.

Evgeniya Bystrova
VP, and EEMEA Corporate Credit Research Analyst, Barclays

Thank you very much. Do you expect that to normalize through the rest of the year in terms of your working capital so there will be more maybe spending on payables through the rest of the year? Or should that situation repeat or just if you could please provide any color? Thank you.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

It's not easy to say what will happen in the coming quarters, but what I can say is for now our, you know, focus on net working capital will of course continue. It's in the previous quarters we discussed about, you know, its importance for, especially during the inflationary, you know, period. We will continue to focus on our net working capital management. What I can say is, we will try to improve it further.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Maybe I can add one more thing. In fact, with regards to the working capital, especially on the inventory level, one key challenge we had lived through in 2024 was the vehicle launches. You know, we have very complex derivatives, high derivative vehicles, and when we are introducing new versions, the inventory, both in terms of parts inventory and the vehicle inventory, it had to go up to significant levels. Now within the year of 2025, in fact, we will still have some launches, the waves bundles I have mentioned about. However, the size and the total count of those launches will be fewer. You can think that the most difficult periods, the very challenging period was in 2024, and we have successfully managed it. Going forward, we are expecting our performance on this end to be much, much better.

As things stand in the first quarter, we are happy that we are seeing good performance on our launch levels. That's why, especially for the inventory piece, we have a target to keep it at this reached healthy levels. For the receivables management for the Ford and the domestic actions, we have rules in place. We are running it well. For the payables, we are working with our supply chain in a healthy manner. We will be tracking their situation given this increased volatility and increased interest environment. Maybe some of the suppliers might have a payment support request. Currently, we do not see such a need, but if such an action comes, we might take some action over there.

I'm expecting overall 2024-2025, I'm expecting this level to be kept at its healthy position. Key reason being the launches.

Evgeniya Bystrova
VP, and EEMEA Corporate Credit Research Analyst, Barclays

Yes. Because of the delayed launches, there was some type of inventory build up which was released.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Yes.

Evgeniya Bystrova
VP, and EEMEA Corporate Credit Research Analyst, Barclays

in the first quarter. Okay, got it.

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

Yes.

Evgeniya Bystrova
VP, and EEMEA Corporate Credit Research Analyst, Barclays

Thank you.

Operator

We have a question from the line of Cemal Demirtaş with Ata Invest. Please go ahead.

Cemal Demirtaş
Deputy General Manager of Research, Ata Invest

Thank you for the presentation and congratulations for good result. My question is related to this lease revenue effect. I couldn't get the details or I didn't understand fully. If you could further elaborate it, you know, a couple of minutes, it will be very helpful because in footnotes I didn't see anything. Maybe I'm missing it. Because I carefully tried to listen to you, but maybe I didn't get it. But I would like to ask if you just a little bit elaborate, it will be helpful.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

Of course, Cemal. Sorry maybe I tried to be clear, but I'm sure that it's not that clear. I'll try to explain. You know this is just, Cemal, a classification of our, you know, previously treated. Previously, you know, you make an investment, you buy machinery equipment or, build a plant. Normally it's a fixed asset in your accounts and you depreciate it. Rule says both for IFRS and US GAAP, by the way, if you have, for just one specific product, that's our new one-ton product for now in Turkey and also Puma vehicle in Craiova as well.

If you have mostly just one customer, which is Ford for us here, and that mostly is described like 90, more than 90% of your product from those assets is going to one customer, then you need to reclassify those assets from fixed assets to kind of leased assets. In our financials, if you look, I'm sure that you are, you know, looking at our financials. In our balance sheet, those accounts are named, as you know, receivables due from related parties. Other receivables due from related parties. It's in the other section. So it's both in the current and non-current assets section. So as you can just imagine, it's just a reclassification from fixed assets to the other receivables due from related parties, which Ford here in that case.

What we do as a treatment is in the fixed assets line, you depreciate the asset throughout the asset life. In this treatment, what you do is you just according to the volume, sales volume of that product throughout its, again, the product lifetime, you just release that leased asset. This is just a lease receivable, and its booking is not in the depreciation accounts, its booking is in the revenue account as an offset. Revenue offsetting account. You can think about it as exactly as a depreciation, as I mentioned. Just the booking lines are different, both in the balance sheet and in the income statement. When you are calculating the EBITDA, you add back depreciation and you add back that amount as well so that you can reach a real EBITDA. Is that clear? I'm not sure, but.

Cemal Demirtaş
Deputy General Manager of Research, Ata Invest

Yeah, it's more clear, but about the rule, it's which TFRS. It's TFRS 16 rule.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

Sixteen.

Cemal Demirtaş
Deputy General Manager of Research, Ata Invest

Sixteen.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

Yes.

Cemal Demirtaş
Deputy General Manager of Research, Ata Invest

I know, but normally you're also selling through Ford Motor Company most of your businesses. This one is completely different. Is it the reason? Because you have been already, you know, in the export market, you have a parent company or like the Ford related company. I think this is. Is it very specific to the new developments or it's a change in the accounting that led you to do this application?

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

It's not a change in the accounting treatment, Cemal Bey. It is.

Cemal Demirtaş
Deputy General Manager of Research, Ata Invest

Mm-hmm.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

because those new programs, new one-ton and

Cemal Demirtaş
Deputy General Manager of Research, Ata Invest

Okay.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

Over 90% of those products goes to Ford. We sell only even less than 10% or even 5% of those vehicles to other customers, let's say. That's the main reason. I mean, the rule looks at that one.

Cemal Demirtaş
Deputy General Manager of Research, Ata Invest

Okay. Okay, that's more clear now. Again, as a feedback, it would be very helpful if you in one, you know, like, one page, for our educational purposes, maybe it will be helpful to put, the, you know, the previous one and the new one so that we can, you know, understand the, changes in treatment. You know, it will be very helpful. Yeah, it will save us time to understand it. If it's possible, it will be more, you know, more welcome. I understand the logic. At least that's good. Thank you. Thank you very much for your time.

Ünal Arslan
Finance Director, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi A.S.

Happy to hear that. Sure. We will do that, Cemal Bey. Thank you. Thanks for the question.

Cemal Demirtaş
Deputy General Manager of Research, Ata Invest

Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further audio questions at this time, so we'll move on to the webcast questions. Our first webcast question is from Murat Ünür with Liberty Mutual Investments. And I quote, "I realize that Ford Otosan is shielded from tariffs given its export destinations. But what about the sentiment of customers? We're hearing that Canadians are boycotting U.S. goods. Do you see anything similar happening in Europe with regards to Ford being an American brand?

Gül Ertuğ
Leader, Finance & Accounting, CFO, Ford Otosan

I can say that especially for the commercial vehicle segment, we are not seeing such a thing. Because, like, it is destined for the key individual particular requests and needs of the customers. I believe the market share we have shown in the first quarter reaching to 19% shows that. Over here in the one-ton, two-ton LCV segments, we are not seeing such an impact.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference over to Metin Şekerci for any closing comments.

Metin Şekerci
Investor Relations and Corporate Governance Manager, Ford Otomotiv Sanayi

Thank you very much for your attention. I think this has been a very good and in some ways a very informative webinar. We have also taken your feedback, and we will try to support you in these detailed questions furthermore, so that once you get the data it will be easier for you to understand and make your analysis over it. Thanks very much and take care until next time. Bye-bye, everyone.

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