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Earnings Call: Q1 2020

Jun 1, 2020

Operator

Good day, everyone. Welcome to the JSC Halyk Bank 1Q 2020 results conference call. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mira Kassenova. Please go ahead.

Mira Kassenova
Head of Financial Institutions and Investor Relations, JSC Halyk Bank

Thank you, Nicole. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Halyk Bank conference call on presentation of financial results for the three months of 2020. Participants in today's call on Halyk Bank side are Ms. Umut Shayakhmetova, Chief Executive Officer of Halyk Bank; Ms. Aliya Karpykova, Deputy Chief Financial Officer; Mr. Murat Koshenov, Deputy CEO, Corporate Banking and International Activities; Mr. Almas Makhanov, Chief Risk Officer; Mr. Viktor Skryl, Financial Director of Finance and Subsidiaries; and myself, Mira Kassenova, Head of FI and IR. I would like to hand the call over to Mr. Koshenov, Deputy CEO.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

We welcome everyone to our first quarter 2020 results call. We hope that everyone is safe and healthy. I would like to start our presentation with an update on the current situation with fighting coronavirus in Kazakhstan. As of today, there are 11,300 confirmed cases or 60.3 cases per 100,000 people. 41 infected individuals died. These metrics are considerably lower versus those registered in most developed and developing countries. Such result has been achieved by timely and efficient steps taken by our government and society. Despite the gradual lifting of lockdown measures, the epidemiological situation in the country is under control, thanks to active testing for the COVID-19 being implemented, and comprehensive government protocols on contact tracing and testing, as well as operation modes for various types of businesses.

Already in January, as soon as news of COVID-19 reached Kazakhstan, the government started to implement rigorous sets of measures to counteract the virus. In terms of timeframe for such measures, we may split those into three main steps or phases. Phase I, initial phase, which lasted until March 16, and encompasses suspension of all air traffic with exposed regions such as China, some Asian and European countries, in order to prevent spread of virus to Kazakhstan. Phase II launched on March 16. It included full closure of borders and establishing state of national emergency, imposing lockdowns in major cities and social distancing regime. These were harsh but necessary measures, crucial for minimizing the virus impact. They delivered positive results and helped us to avoid dramatic consequences that are noticeable in some other countries. Already by end of April, the situation has stabilized and the virus spread was contained.

The government started to remove certain limitations. Phase III. On May 11th, the state of emergency was removed, and we proceeded with opening up economy, starting with industrial, construction, and transportation sectors, gradually moving towards services sector. On May 25th, non-food retail and restaurants were opened, subject to following strict sanitizing requirements. It is important to note the country's substantial expanded testing capacity over the last two months. Since early April, the number of conducted tests per day increased from 2,000 to more than 26,000 tests per day. Currently, about 80%-85% of daily cases are symptomatic patients. Now, let me speak briefly about the impacts on Kazakh economy and its consequences. Besides the virus, in the first quarter, we also witnessed dramatic collapses in oil prices. Combination of these two factors prompted significant business contraction in the first four months of 2020.

The most affected sectors were trade, down 8.9%, and transportation, down 11%. At the same time, the economy proved quite resilient, and some sectors managed to expand over this period, mostly those related to production, mining, communication services. New economic reality also required adjustments to the government policies and macroeconomic forecasts used in the budget planning. Business lockdowns and revision of oil prices forecast for 2020 to $20 per barrel from the previous $55 per barrel has knock-on effects on other key macroeconomic metrics. Moving the exchange rate forecast to KZT 430-440 per US dollar from a level of KZT 380, increasing the inflation forecast to the range of 9%-11%. GDP is expected to shrink by 0.9%.

The government views both the low oil prices and coronavirus as temporary factors and will try to mitigate their negative economic effects through increased budget spending, which is expected to increase fiscal deficit in 2020 from 2.1% to 3.5%. At the same time, success in containing of coronavirus provide us more confidence regarding potential pace of economic recovery. It is important to highlight that Kazakhstan has improved resilience with respect to external shocks, and hence we feel better equipped to weather current economic situation. It is evident if you look at our position today in the context of the past crisis, 2009 and 2015. We believe that Kazakhstan is better prepared today. Our international reserve stands at roughly $90 billion, around half of our GDP. Level of public debt remains quite low, at around 18% of GDP.

Floating exchange rate regime allow us better adapt to changing external environments. There are no disbalances or excessive leverages in the economy as we experienced in the past crisis. Also, the banking sector is in better shape now in terms of capitalization, asset quality, liquidity, and other metrics. Share of FX loans and deposits reduced quite dramatically. Leverage remains decent with retail credit below 9.2% of GDP and total banking credits at only 21.5% in Kazakhstan. This alleviates pressure on our economy during these tough times. Credit rating agencies share our confidence in Kazakh economy. Recently, Moody's reiterated its positive outlook on Kazakhstan, citing economic resilience due to significant buffers against external shocks, supported by robust medium-term growth prospects and rising incomes. On slide 10, we provide additional details on our national reserves as well as KZT exchange rate dynamics.

As I mentioned before, weakening of tenge was driven by collapse in oil prices. The currency weakened by around 10% year- to- date, which helped the economy to adjust to external shock. At the same time, National Bank of Kazakhstan was making necessary steps to support tenge and reduce impacts of some speculative trends. First of all, it conducted foreign exchange interventions. It also hiked the key rate from 9.4% to 12% on March 16. Following stabilization of the key rate, the key rate was reduced to 9.5% on the 6th of April. We also want to put your attention to recent positive macroeconomic developments with tenge appreciation by 6.2% since the beginning of May on the backdrop of increasing oil prices.

Consolidated international reserves totaled $87.2 billion at the end of first quarter 2020, of which the National Fund's assets amounted to $57.5 billion, and gross international reserves of National Bank, $30 billion. Gold holdings constitute 66% of NBK reserves at the record high level of $19.7 billion, with the remaining 34% represented by foreign exchange holdings. National Bank reserves, close to $30 billion covered 12 .5 months of imports, which is fine excess of accepted metrics of three months. Kazakhstan has more than sufficient resources to meet any of its external short-term debt obligations. Based on our assessment, Kazakhstan has implemented one of the most massive fiscal support programs among our peers, amounting to close to 9% of GDP. These programs encompass social payments to vulnerable citizens, affordable housing initiatives, tax holidays, various measures to support SMEs.

We will cover these initiatives in greater detail on the next slides. As mentioned earlier, the government expected 0.9% GDP contraction this year. Most international organizations such as EBRD, IMF, World Bank, in their forecast expect contraction of GDP this year in the magnitude of 0.8%-3%, followed by strong rebound in 2021 in the range of 3%-4.8%. In our view, a lot will depend on how effective the government's measures aimed at supporting the economy proves to be. Let us provide a bit more detail on this matter. The government announced a comprehensive set of measures to support individuals that may potentially be impacted by COVID-19.

Such measures include payment of minimum monthly salary to those who lost income, various support measures for socially vulnerable individuals, including subsidies, supplementary salaries for medical workers, debt repayment holidays, state employment programs establishing additional 250,000 jobs, housing program with very favorable terms, including 10% down payment and 5% interest rate, and tax holidays. SMEs remain one of the most exposed to COVID-19 sectors of the economy, given that most companies belong to service industries, and hence they were severely impacted by imposed lockdowns. The government has undertaken extensive set of measures to support them, improving availability of credit and also subsidizing interest rates for borrowers, debt repayment holidays for SMEs, property tax exemptions for the period of one year, a reduction of VAT rates from 12% to 8% for socially imported goods until October 1st, an exemption of SMEs from taxes and social payments until October the 1st.

Additional certain support measures on macro and micro level were channeled by National Bank and the Agency for Regulation and Development of the Financial sector. These measures include support of national currency exchange rates via requirements for the quasi-sovereign sector entities to sell part of their export proceeds in the domestic FX market. Furthermore, quasi-sovereign sector entities have to return their FX deposit placed abroad back to Kazakhstan. Already mentioned measures of tightening monetary policy via base rates. They were aimed at stabilizing the inflation expectations and limiting transition of external shocks to the financial market. Now, let me provide a bit more detail on the program for debt repayment holidays. Banks were requested to provide to individual entrepreneurs and SME borrowers affected by the current situation a grace period on principal amount and interest for up to 90 days. The interest, however, continues to accrue.

As of end of April, more than 1.8 million individuals and 13,000 SMEs submitted their application with approval rate standing circa at 90%. At the same time, banks received certain temporary relaxation of provisions requirement on these restructured loans. Another important element of the government policy encompasses support for the banking sector. In order to mitigate potential stress on the banking system, NBK made decisions to certain regulatory requirements. Key measures include, on the previous slide, I already mentioned the relaxation of provisions requirement for restructured loans. Relaxation of capital adequacy requirements, namely conservation buffer by one percentage point. Reduction of risk weighting assets requirement on certain categories of risk exposures. Relaxation of calculation of maximum risk to a single borrower. Temporal decrease of certain liquidity requirements, for instance, liquidity coverage ratio. Important to emphasize that these measures are temporary for the period of crisis.

Also, these measures are broadly in line with the similar initiatives pursued by regulators in other countries and underpin the importance of maintaining strong solvency and asset quality of the banking sector. Now, I would like to hand the call over to Viktor Skryl, Financial Director.

Viktor Skryl
Financial Director of Finance and Subsidiaries, JSC Halyk Bank

Good afternoon. On this slide, we would like to highlight why we believe that Halyk Bank is well positioned to weather the current crisis. Halyk Bank enjoys undisputed leadership position in Kazakhstan across all key business segments, accounting for 36% of all customer deposits and 39% of the banking sector's net income. We remain one of the most profitable banks globally, with average return on equity of around 20% for 2008 - 2019, the period that included two severe crises of 2009 and 2015, with dramatic fall on oil prices in both of them. Our profitability is underpinned by best in class operating efficiency, healthy margins, and stringent risk management. We are one of the best capitalized banks in the region with CET1 ratio standing at 20.6%. The bank also enjoys exceptionally strong liquidity and stable granular deposit base. Liquid assets amount to 44% of our asset base.

Historically, we have been always very conservative in our risk appetite and risk management, maintaining conservative provision coverage and decreasing FX lending exposures. In the current global economic crisis and deterioration in the operating environment, the bank's international credit ratings have been confirmed by Fitch and S&P rating agencies, which are the highest long-term credit ratings among Kazakh banks without foreign ownership and proves the bank's high resistance to any external shocks. Finally, over the past few years, we've been stepping up our investment in digital proposition for our clients. Today, our market leading online platform is experiencing significant acceleration of customer engagement. On the next slide, as I mentioned previously, our business model and financial position have always been very resilient to economic shocks. That has been exemplified in previous crises of 2009 and 2015.

We strongly believe that today, Halyk Bank is even better prepared to withstand any adverse development, which is evident from the key metrics represented on this slide. First, strong capital buffers with CET1 ratio being the highest among regional peers. Second, even strong liquidity position, which comprised of 44% of total assets. Third, substantially improved asset quality, higher provisioning coverage, and also lower share of loan book in total assets and lower FX exposure. Fourth, best in class operating efficiency with cost-to-income ratio of 26%. Fifth, and importantly for this downturn, much higher utilization of digital channels by our retail and corporate clients. Next slide, please. Being a systemically important institution in Kazakhstan, Halyk Bank has been at the forefront of the fight against COVID-19, providing necessary financial infrastructure for day-to-day client activities and government support measures, ensuring that financial services are fully available 24/7 on nationwide scale.

Our leading payment platform has been crucial for seamless delivery of ever-increasing payment and cash settlement volumes, as well as over 9 million social payments and pension transfers. The bank has served as a key channel for provision of various government social support measures and has opened over 1 million payment card accounts remotely. Over 700,000 cards were delivered to our customers at their homes. We ensured full business and operational continuity amid strict anti-COVID-19 pandemic measures undertaken. We provided full range of services to our customers during lockdown, with 77% of our branches remaining operational nationwide and 90% of ATMs at service. As COVID-19 posed certain challenges to businesses and people across Kazakhstan, most of each are our clients. We have efficiently adopted measures to support them in a time of economic turmoil.

We have participated in all support programs and provided additional support to SMEs that were most severely impacted by the pandemic, including concessional lending programs and debt payment holidays. We have utilized KZT 71 billion out of KZT 180 billion concessional SME lending programs allocated to the bank and provided debt repayment holidays for 3,500 SME clients. We have also launched KZT 24 billion support program to agricultural sector together with JSC Agricultural Credit Corporation. For our retail clients suffering from temporary loss of income due to decreased economic activity, we provided debt repayment holidays for up to three months. By the end of April, 130,000 applications for debt repayment holidays were approved by the bank.

We have also supported our clients offering full product suite via online and mobile banking platform and prolonging any expiring cards issued, as well as offered fully online onboarding for new clients looking to set up an account or apply for the loan at Halyk Bank. Our bank remained fully operational, and we efficiently moved 40% of our employees to remote workplace. 30% of our staff stayed in our branches and offices, keeping strict social distancing and hygiene requirements. 30% were on paid forced leave to support caring dependents. With easing of lockdown in Kazakhstan, we consider our priority to ensure safety and health for our customers and our employees, also supporting healthcare services of our communities. We have ensured strict infection prevention measures in our office throughout the bank's employees. Our branches follow strict guidelines to provide greater safety for our customers while they're visiting our offices.

We launched dedicated program to provide support to medical workers involved in treatment of COVID-19 patients. Over 1,500 people received the support to- date. We launched mass established coronavirus testing with our partners, as well as supported hospitals with ambulances, ICU ventilators, and specialized medical automobiles for disabled people. We have limited exposure to most vulnerable sectors affected by the current economic turmoil. Out of our total retail borrowers, only 15.6% have requested credit deferral up to date, and for loans in total amount of KZT 21 billion. Our exposure to the sectors most affected by the current down cycle, including hotels, passenger transportation, commercial real estate, and oil and gas sector comprised 15% of our loan book and remains manageable. We are in constructive dialogue with most our customers that were impacted by COVID-19 to support them through this period.

The debt payment holidays for retail and SME clients usually imply loan maturity extension upon deferral of interest and principal payment for three months. The payment deferral does not have direct impact on provisioning or IFRS Stage 3 classification. As previously mentioned, we have launched dedicated state concessional lending program to SMEs with a total amount of KZT 180 billion allocated to the bank. As of May, we financed over 277 SME clients in the amount of KZT 71 billion, which is 46% total sector's utilization. Halyk Bank has a well-diversified loan book with 26% represented by retail segment, 15% by SME lending, and 59% by corporate loans. Our FX lending exposure has substantially decreased over the past few years. Now FX loans comprise only 29% of the loan book and are primarily issued to the borrowers with FX-linked income.

The bank's corporate loan book remains well diversified among various sectors of the economy. While retail loans are either issued to payroll clients or secured by real estate or other property. In this section, we would like to provide you with digital and transactional banking update. We gained the momentum of this challenging environment and improved utilization of digital channels, and continued to develop our digital proposition, expanding the offering through digital channels by products and services, which were previously provided exclusively only at the bank's branches. Development of digital platform has been one of the top priorities for the bank over the last years, and it proved to be a major advantage within the COVID-19 outbreak and economy lockdowns, as we experienced dramatic increase in demand for remote and online services. We have seen a strong pickup in online client activity.

We experienced five times increase in traffic growth on the bank's website. Number of payment cards issued remotely posted nine times growth during the lockdown period, and we issued over 560,000 cards by the end of April. In 1Q 2020, we have also seen explosive growth demand for non-cash payments and P2P transfers compared to the 4Q 2019. Online loans and deposits are gaining significant traction, and we have increased by 3x and 8.5 x respectively since the state of emergency was declared. At the same time, we have been continuously advancing our retail and corporate online platforms, expanding their products verticals, functionality, and service tools to provide our clients with the opportunity to fully manage their financial life online.

Our Homebank online retail platform provides online and QR payments for a large number of partner services, online card to card and international money P2P transfers, online loan issuance and account and deposit opening, as well as loyalty program for our customers. We offer fully online client onboarding, we are first to launch a number of innovative technology solutions for our clients. Dedicated SME and corporate platform Onlinebank provides full scope of transactional banking, online financial products, and various supporting businesses and services online. We have also introduced recently a dedicated online marketplace for SMEs. During the pandemic, we were focused on launching a number of strategic projects aimed at improving Halyk's digital proposition and offering a comprehensive online platform for our customers. Just within the last three months, we introduced a number of innovative services for our retail and SME clients.

We have launched fully online client onboarding without physical branch visit to attract new customers, as well as introduced deposits and loans issuance, and Western Union money transfers via mobile app in April. In partnership with largest appliances retailer, Technodom, we launched a full consumer loan product in March. Our payments platform now includes over 5,000 services for payments online. We have been number one finance app in Kazakhstan by number of downloads in App Store and Google Play during the lockdown. We have seen the same massive pickup in the number of online SME and corporate users and continue to develop our business platform with an SME marketplace launched in April and new mobile app launched in May. As I already mentioned, we have seen an explosive pickup in online client engagement amid lockdown. This slide, number 27, provides some useful statistics on these trends.

Even with the lockdown easing, we expect our customers will continue to rely on digital platform for managing their everyday financial life. We remain fully committed to further investment in the development of our digital capabilities. Now, I would like to hand the call over to Mira Kassenova, Head of FI and IR, to comment on details on our financial results for 1Q 2020.

Mira Kassenova
Head of Financial Institutions and Investor Relations, JSC Halyk Bank

Thank you. Let me switch to Halyk Group consolidated financial results for the first quarter of 2020. In the first quarter of 2020, we earned KZT 81.1 billion despite the tightening operating environment and related to a substantial increase in credit loss expenses following conservative but typical for us risk management approach. The bank's net income increased by 8.8% compared to 1Q 2019, mainly as a result of higher net interest income and other non-interest income in 1Q 2020. This allow us to stay consistent in delivering strong return on equity at 24.1%. Reduction of net income compared to 4Q 2019 is highly driven by substantially higher credit loss expenses, reflecting market changes according to IFRS 9.

Total assets of the Group increased by 8.7% versus the end of 2019, mainly as a result of revaluation of FX balance sheet positions due to low current depreciation versus the dollar during 1Q 2020. Interest income increased by 1.8% to KZT 179.3 billion for 1Q 2020 compared to KZT 176.2 billion for 1Q 2019, mainly as a result of increase in average balances of interest-earning assets. Interest expense decreased by 9.9% compared to 1Q 2019. The net interest income increased by 12.4% to KZT 104.1 billion. Net interest margin increased to 5.3% per annum 1Q 2020 compared to 5% in 1Q 2019, mainly due to accelerated amortization of discount on the bank's Eurobonds in the amount of KZT 7.4 billion in 1Q 2019, following its early partial prepayment.

Another main growth driver was decrease of deposit interest rates and increased average rates on loans to customers in 1Q 2020 versus 1Q 2019. Compared to 1Q 2019, our fees and commissions grew by 14.2% to KZT 30.8 billion in the first quarter of 2020 as a result of growing volumes of transactional banking, mainly in payment card operations. Decrease in clients' transactional activity due to the lockdown measures put some pressure on our fees and commission income in Q1 2020 versus 4Q 2019. The main effect was seasonality. Fee and commission expense increased by 47% compared to Q1 2019, mainly due to increased number of transactions of other banks' cards in the acquiring network of the bank.

Operating expenses for 1Q 2020 increased by 28.3% versus 1Q 2019, mainly due to the indexation of salaries and other employees' benefits starting from the 1st of March 2019; a loss from impairment of non-financial assets of KZT 1.9 billion in 1Q 2020; and loyalty program bonuses payable to the customers, which includes in operating expenses related to the advertisement starting from 4Q 2019. Operating income increased by 26.7%, mainly due to increase in net interest income and other non-interest income on the back of higher net gain from derivative operations and securities, mainly related to significant positive revaluation of the swap agreement with the National Bank as a result of tenge depreciation in 1Q 2020, partially offset by net loss from FX operations. As a result, the bank's cost-to-income ratio slightly increased to 23.8% compared to 23.5% for 1Q 2019.

Next slide shows from a different perspective our strong liquidity position, where deposits as a percentage of funding were 99.9%. The share of liquid assets in total assets was 45.1%. In addition, we have relatively low loan leverage with net loans to deposits equal to 57%, and net stable funding ratio was at 1.85%, well above the regulatory requirement. On the balance sheet, compared with the year-end 2019, loans to customers increased by 6.4% on a gross basis and 5.9% on a net basis. Increase of gross loan portfolio in Q1 2020 was attributed to 8.3% on a gross basis, mainly due to revaluation of FX loans, increase in SME loans, 0.5% on a gross basis, and increase in retail loans, 5.9% on a gross basis.

Halyk Bank's 90-day NPL ratio slightly increased to 7.7% from 6.9% at the end of 2019, entirely due to revaluation of previously impaired FX loans. The provision rate increased to 10.3% from 9.8% as at the end of 2019. The 90-day NPL coverage ratio was 146.1%. As mentioned earlier, in 1Q 2020, credit loss expense increased significantly to KZT 18.1 billion due to additional allowances for expected credit loss for KZT 11.7 billion, reflecting macro changes with the increased risk and uncertainty from the COVID-19 outbreak, although the group's loan portfolio remains robust and well-positioned. As a result, the cost of risk increased to 1.7% in 1Q 2020 compared to 0.6% for 1Q 2019.

The bank management has concluded that in accordance with the requirements of IFRS 9, it is necessary to take into account the potential impact of the macroeconomic situation on a possible change in the quality of the loan portfolio in the future. The revised expected credit losses overlay will be monitored and refined as more observable data on economic customer accounts becomes available. Although market dynamics are challenging in our sectors for corporate customers, the corporate portfolio's diverse client base and limits are being proactively managed and have relatively limited exposure to the most vulnerable sectors affected by the coronavirus. The impact of the COVID-19 scenario and weighting adjustments has resulted in an increase in credit loss expenses from the previous scenario, primarily driven by the higher probability of default in retail unsecured loans.

These drivers are partially offset by the impact of the National Bank government other support measures, which are assumed to mitigate a material portion of future losses. Stage 3 ratio continued to decrease from 16% at the end of 4Q 2019 to 15.5%, mainly as a result of write-offs and repayments of previously impaired investments of corporate borrowers. We're additionally showing here how well the workout of problem loans collateral was done by the bank's SPVs during 1Q 2020. On liability side, the deposits of legal entities and individuals increased by 6.3% and 10.2% respectively, compared to year-end 2019, mainly as a result of revaluation of FX deposits due to tenge depreciation versus US dollar during 1Q 2020.

At the end of 1Q 2020, the share of corporate KZT deposits in total corporate deposits was 50.8% compared to 49.4% as at the end of 2019, whereas the share of retail KZT deposits in total retail deposits was 37.6% compared to 43.7%. Compared with the year-end 2019, total equity increased by 4% as a result of net profit earned by the bank during 1Q 2020. The bank continues to maintain very high capital adequacy ratios. The decision not to pay dividends for 2019 has come from uncertainty about the duration and extent of the negative impact of a number of factors, both on the economic situation in Kazakhstan and globally, such as coronavirus pandemic, low oil prices, and slowdown in various sectors of the economy of Kazakhstan. The capital retention under current conditions will allow the bank to pass through any possible stressful scenarios more confidently.

The payment of dividends from the bank's retained earnings of previous years may be reconsidered in the second half of 2020, subject to economic recovery in Kazakhstan and the reduction of uncertainty in the global economy. The previously provided guidance for 2020 was put under review. The current operating environment is too uncertain to provide any estimates to our financial performance for this year at this point of time. This completes our presentation. Now we would like to open the floor for your questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and then one on your phone. Again, that is star and then one. We'll take a question from Elena Tsareva from BCS Global Markets.

Elena Tsareva
Analyst, BCS Global Markets

Good afternoon. Thank you very much for a very detailed presentation and overview. I have a first question on guidance. I understand it's under review currently, but what could be the expectations of, firstly, the key rate? As I understand, there is no key rate in macro assumptions.

What could be the direction of key rate, what you assume going forward throughout the year and implications on margin level as it's quite resilient in the first quarter? If you can just say what to expect from OpEx? On OpEx side, do you feel there are some initiatives, cost initiatives, you may apply to support? Maybe you can just give some color on OpEx side as well? This was my first question.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yes, Elena. Hello. Please allow us one minute. Regarding the base rate, we do not expect a material change from current level. There might be some reduction, but we do not think that they might be material in that sense. Regarding the OpEx, we already announced that we took certain measures in order to control our costs, and partially they are related to controlling the epidemiological situation. Like we restricted the business trips, most of the meetings are being conducted online. We also implemented measures such as freezing the new hirings except for certain areas which are required. At the same time, we see that certain new cost items appeared, like expenses for sanitizing measures. All in all, we expect that operational expenditures should be constrained this year.

Elena Tsareva
Analyst, BCS Global Markets

Thank you very much. My second question is about on dividend side. Given that you have strong capital ratios, do you have any certain levels of CET1 ratio of capital adequacy ratio to sustain dividend payouts unchanged when you consider it in the second half of the year?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

In our previous interactions with investment community, we were saying that we do not have a hard target rate for the Tier 1 ratio. 17% might be taken as a minimum below which we do not like our Tier 1 capital to drop. To really set the target will be difficult because we're also looking at the prospects of business needs for the capital. We're looking at the state and prospects of the economy.

Elena Tsareva
Analyst, BCS Global Markets

That's it. Thank you very much. That's it.

Operator

We'll take a question from Marina Davies from MMZ.

Marina Davies
Analyst, MMZ

Hello. Thank you very much for the call. I wanted to ask about the accrued interest. I'm sure you received these questions in the past. I just didn't look at the bank for some time. The accrued interest through the P&L is lagging behind the interest received in cash through the cash flow. Could you please remind me how do you accrue your interest and what is the reason for that, and how do you expect this to evolve going forward? Maybe also some expectations for later this year in terms of how big of an impact can we see in Q2 on your operating activities and how quick the recovery can be in the Q3 and Q4, whatever you can say about it.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yes, Marina, thank you for the question. It's actually very important aspect which we're also looking at. Basically looking at the cash interest gap. We urge you to look from two perspectives. One is the gap for the loans to customers only, and secondly, the overall cash interest gap. There is pretty much difference between two, for the reason I will explain to you a bit later. For the interest gap for the loans to customers for 2019 was standing at 98%. Basically, there was virtually no gap between interest received and interest accrued. For the first quarter of this year, it was standing close to 83%, and there are two reasons for that. One is, it's better to look at this ratio for a bit longer period than one quarter because there are loans for which interest are paid on a monthly basis.

However, there are also loans for which interest payments are set on quarterly or semiannual basis. That gives you somewhat fluctuation for this ratio quarter to quarter. In the second half of March, certain loans for mostly retail customers as well as SME customers, we are already making the schedule for interest payments because of the introduction of emergency situation. When we talk about the overall gap for interest income accrued, these ratios are lower. The main reason for that is that if you look at our balance sheets, there is substantial portion of government securities, portion of which is represented by the National Bank notes. These notes are not paying interest. Basically, banks are buying these notes at discount, and they mature at par.

For this part of securities, the interest is accrued, but interest is not paid because the interest is earned not through the interest payment, but through amortization of the discount. From that perspective, there will always be a natural gap for this type of securities. The gap for overall interest income for last year, it was standing at level higher than 89%, and for the first quarter, it was close to 75%. I'm talking about the percentage, not the gap, but the percentage of-

Marina Davies
Analyst, MMZ

Received versus-

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

interest received.

Marina Davies
Analyst, MMZ

Yeah, received versus accrued. Yeah, no, that's very clear.

Thank you very much. Is there any one big customer or several big customers who are causing the 83% situation in Q1, or is it just a general situation? Because sometimes one big customer can, for example, not manage to pay in the quarter and it just goes in the next quarter, and this can be sometimes causing these discrepancies. Is there any particular chunky ticket you can identify?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

No, in general, there is no specific customers which were impacting that ratio. As I said, the guidance is that typically there is a fluctuations quarter to quarter because of the timing difference between the accrual and receipt. With regard to particular current situation, as you know, due to situation with lockdown and quarantine measures, there was a program set for certain type of customers for which the banks were taking measures in order to provide payment holidays for the interest. That program is lasting up to three months. That took certain impact on the ratios in the first quarter.

Marina Davies
Analyst, MMZ

Sure. Do you think then it's going to be better in Q2?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Excuse me, could you please repeat?

Marina Davies
Analyst, MMZ

Does it mean that this number will be better in Q2?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

In Q2, probably not, because the state of emergency was introduced mid of March, and it was lifted in the middle of May. Most of the period was happened exactly in the second quarter. In the second half of this year, we expect that ratio start going back to normal, but it might take some time until we come back to the levels which we experienced in 2019.

Marina Davies
Analyst, MMZ

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Once again, ladies and gentlemen, that is star one if you'd like to ask a question. We'll take a question from Andrew Keeley from Sberbank.

Andrew Keeley
Analyst, Sberbank

Hi. Good afternoon. Thank you for the call. I have a few questions. First of all, in terms of your fee income, I'm just trying to understand in terms of the drop in the fee income being driven by much higher fee expenses. As I can understand, I mean, this is related to the plastic card expenses where you say it's due to more transactions from other banks' cards. This is basically you as an acquiring bank having to pay out more interchange income to other banks, people using their cards, I presume. I mean, it's been growing pretty strongly now for several quarters. I'm just trying to understand is this kind of one particular bank, like Kaspi or something, that's the cause of this, or that's not the case? In your presentation, you basically show very strong dynamics, your payment card issuance.

I'm just trying to kind of square that with the fact that it seems like this is constantly pushing down your overall fee income. Just some thoughts on that would be very helpful. Thank you.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Andrew, it was not a good line, but do I understand correctly that the main question was regarding the fees and commissions expenses, which grew at faster pace than fees and commission income? Yes, if this is the question, then the answer is yes. This is because we see increasing number of cards issued by other banks, being using our acquiring network. We actually have taken a number of measures, and we try to present them in current presentation by making the usage of our cards more actively. We, as you probably also see in the presentation, were the most active bank in issuing cards and opening card accounts on remote basis. Actually, also relates to social support measures, but also issuing for other customers which were not entitled for the social payments. We made a lot of digital developments in our applications.

You probably also know that in Kazakhstan, the fee level interchange, which is called interchange, is relatively high if you compare to the other similar markets, including neighbor markets. There are discussions at various levels, including with companies like Visa, Mastercard, the National Bank, and the banking community, how that levels can be brought to lower level, which is more normally seen in the countries which can be considered as a peer to Kazakhstan. This is a separate thing which probably can be called as market-driven. If that implemented, that also might have a positive impact on our net fees and commissions.

Andrew Keeley
Analyst, Sberbank

Okay. Do you expect to start seeing this kind of consistently strong growth from these payment card expenses to start kind of cooling down fairly soon or not?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

We start seeing that the activity of our customers has increased, and particularly it's increased during this lockdown period. We think that strong momentum which we gained during this quarantine or lockdown period will eventually bring us to the situation when, first of all, fees and commissions, net fees and commissions income would be stabilized, but eventually would be again shifted to the positive trend. As we previously said, it might take some time. The bank is taking a number of different measures, like on developing the client acquisition on different digital propositions. We introduced a lot of new initiatives during lockdown periods, we will try to work further on that to improve situation with net fees and commissions.

Andrew Keeley
Analyst, Sberbank

Thank you. That's very helpful. A question on your asset quality. Roughly 2/3 of your cost of risk was due to changes in your macro inputs in something like 0.6% usual course of business. That kind of 0.6% level, do you see that as a particularly good quarter or more or less the kind of run rate that you're thinking about, you would expect generally going forward, assuming a fairly stable environment, aside from any potential further changes in your macro inputs? I guess, another related question. You show in your presentation, I think 31% of retail loans have been restructured or have taken the payment holidays, but basically half of that volume for Halyk, I think 16%.

Is that, would you say basically because of the higher quality borrowers in jobs that have generally been more resilient, that you have compared to the rest of the sector? Any thoughts on that would be helpful. Thank you.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yes, Andrew. Thank you for your questions. I will start from the end. Regarding what we see in terms of dynamics on retail portfolio, yes, indeed, the percentage customers for which we made restructuring is way lower than the average for the market. Indeed, the main explanation is the client base. As you know, for installment loans, we mostly provide loans to the customers who receive salaries. That includes people working for large corporates, but also that includes people who are receiving salaries from the budget like teachers, medical workers, et cetera. This particular part of the people, you might call them essential workers. They were not affected by the lockdown measures. That's why many of these customers, they were not experiencing drop in their payment of salaries, and they were able to serve their schedule without application for the reschedule.

For other banks, the situation might be different. With regards to cost of risk in the first quarter, indeed, we made certain provisions, not because we already observed certain changes in the asset quality, but merely as a result of changing macro assumptions. These macro assumptions are changing quite rapidly, I would say, in current environment. We would make this assessment on quarterly basis, and depending on that, we might adjust those assumptions and that might potentially impact the cost of risk in coming quarters. Obviously, we will continue to make risk assumptions on individual loan basis, depending on the evolving situation, and that might take its own dynamic. There is some sort of uncertainty how the situation with pandemic would be evolving in the second half, what would be dynamic on the oil price in the second half of this year.

It is probably a bit premature to provide particular guidance on the cost of risk situation. I want to reiterate again that we do not see these balances in our credit portfolio. It is quite diversified. We see that our portfolio was not growing rapidly compared to some banks in certain particular areas. We think that we have strong quality in our credit portfolio, which would be helpful in maintaining that through current turbulent times.

Andrew Keeley
Analyst, Sberbank

Thank you. That's very helpful. Just a couple of quick questions. Can you tell us what your FX kind of adjusted loan and deposit growth was in the first quarter if we strip out the move in the tenge? I think you mentioned in the presentation about positive reevaluation of the swap agreement with the NBK due to the tenge's depreciation. Can you just reiterate, remind us the kind of terms and sizes of that swap agreement, and can we kind of conclude that if the tenge, as it has appreciated in the second quarter, does that mean that there should be some loss on that transaction? Thank you.

Operator

Okay. Do you need me to move on to the next question?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yes, Andrew, thank you for your question. Just a moment, please. Yes, Andrew. The situation with swap is as follows, it's a function of two things. One is the change in spot rate, and secondly, the timing until maturity of this instrument. Basically, when dollar is appreciating, it is having the positive impact on P&L. When tenge is appreciating, it is having the negative impact. All in all, once the swap is approaching its maturity, these temporal differences should be eliminated. Yeah. To give you guidance for the second quarter, we have to look how the FX rates would be changing in the second quarter. So far, tenge is appreciating, so meaning that it have negative effect so far on the P&L. We still have one month until end of the quarter, and the timing of that swap is also approaching.

Because there was some appreciation, it naturally would be putting negative pressure on P&L because of approaching maturity anyway.

Andrew Keeley
Analyst, Sberbank

Can you remind me the maturity?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Even if the rates would not be changing, it will be good.

Yeah, the maturity date is beginning of July. Even if the rate would remain as is, because we had a gain in the first quarter, in the second quarter, it would be minus because it will be compensating because of approaching maturity.

Andrew Keeley
Analyst, Sberbank

Understood.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Change in rate is just speeding that process. With regards to FX loans and deposits, there was no substantial change, basically. Almost none on deposits and a slight increase, like one percentage point, on the loan side.

Andrew Keeley
Analyst, Sberbank

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Okay. We'll take our next question from Tunde Ojo with Harding Loevner.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Thank you very much for the presentation. Appreciate the elaborate detail in this presentation. A few questions. First is on the debt payment holiday you mentioned. During the call, you highlighted the total amount for retail, I think it's about KZT 20 billion. Can you please disclose what the amount is for your SME book? I couldn't find it anywhere in the presentation. Also if you have any for the corporate. I don't know if any corporate were availed this sort of debt payment holiday as well. If there are, if you can please share what the total amount is for that would be helpful as well. That's my first question, and I'll go to the next one after that. Thanks. Hello?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yes. Hello, Tunde. Thank you for your question. One moment, please.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Yep.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

For SME, the number of customers for which we make that amendment is 3,500 customers. The amount of rescheduled payments is around KZT 46 billion. For corporates, we do not have that statistic because we are just following the individual customer approach, and we do not have a potential number of corporates applied for this program. For retail and SMEs, there were certain category of sectors which were defined by the regulator, for which basically banks were taking the formalistic approach in providing these holidays. It do not necessarily means that these customers were experiencing difficulties with repayment or experiencing liquidity situations, but simply because their operations were restricted during quarantine, during lockdown period, they were entitled for that payment holiday. Again, it is important to reiterate that the interest payment holiday does not mean that the banks halted the interest accrual.

The interest accrual remains at the existing interest rate.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Got it. All right. The affected sectors, are those the ones you have on slide 22? Real estate, passenger, hotels, or are they bigger than that? Those ones qualifies for this holiday?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yeah. It's like trading centers, it's hotels. If we talk about the SMEs, it's like hairdressers, cinemas, all the, I would say, segments which require close physical interaction with people.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Yeah.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Formally, it also includes non-food retail, but we know that with current digitalization, many, especially if we talk about the medium and especially large non-food retail, they will continue to operate through online shops and deliveries to the customers. That business, well, shops were physically closed, but some companies, especially large ones, they will continue to operate through physical delivery and online shops.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Yeah. All right. Thanks. Thank you very much for that. The second question I have is on the cost of risk. I understand you suspended your guidance, and I can appreciate that in this environment, but just want to get a better handle of where things are going for you. You mentioned earlier that consumers or your clients are behaving normally, which assume that they're current on their obligation. My specific question here is, you had these buckets of classification of your cost of risk, where you showed the changes in the model for IFRS 9, and you obviously have macro changes in there. Can you please share what sort of inputs you had to arrive at that?

Does it include COVID-19 specific impact yet, or are we going to see that more from Q2 going forward in arriving at the 1.7% cost of risk you had in Q1? Just to get a sense of where things potentially could go from here.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Tunde, one moment, please.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Yes.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

I would say that the change in macro indicators is a combination of COVID and reduction in oil prices, because we had kind of dual effects. We're making our projections. There are a number of them, but the main three are oil price, inflation, and real GDP growth. We set the range for each of these indicators. For oil price per barrel, we have a range between $20-$40 per barrel. For inflation, it is between 6.9%-10.4%. For real GDP growth, it is between -0.6% and 1.5%.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Got it. This is very helpful. Thanks. That's very helpful. Any changes in these variables going forward would then change your expected loss credit charge coming from this particular event, correct?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yes. Any material changes from that level might trigger the new assessment. Far we see that the dynamics is probably better, or at least current situation is better than it was linked in those indicators. We do that on a regular basis, that assessment.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Got it. Yes.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Depending on projections at the time of assessments.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Yeah. Thanks for that and the elaborate disclosure again. I really liked the presentation this quarter. You mentioned on slide 22 some sectors specifically affected by the economic downturn, about 15% of your portfolio. Are you seeing stress already coming from some customers in that segment yet? Meaning, they're asking for renegotiation or getting a raise or anything like that? You just identified this, but there's no problem yet? Just want to get a sense of what you've been experiencing on ground. Thanks.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Tunde, one moment.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Thanks.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

We showed that sectors which naturally might be affected by either a drop in oil prices or because of lockdown measures. That does not necessarily mean that we see deterioration in these segments, because for many of that customers, most of that sectors is actually represented by large corporate. As I said, they have sufficient cushion in terms of capital and liquidity. We do not see massive requests from that sectors, from the customers to provide interest payment holidays. There are a few, but it's not for the large scale. Because the lockdown in Kazakhstan is already lifting, so we think that these clients are already coming to the normalized business activities in coming weeks and months. As the situation stands now, we do not expect deterioration in these sectors. This is merely for the benefit of investors to see our exposure to that particular segments or sub-sectors.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Got it. That's very helpful. The last question from me, please, is on the concessional lending from the government. You disclosed the number. You have KZT 180 billion allocated to the bank. You've disbursed KZT 71 billion so far. Do you mind sharing the terms of this loan? I know you gave a figure for the interest rate to the borrowers, but I'm not sure what the interest rate to you at the bank is. What kind of spread do you make on this loan? Are they allowed to use this money or fund to repay existing debt? This has to be separate to help clients for other things? Just want to understand the terms broadly for this concessional loan. Thanks.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yes. The margin for the government programs is more or less the same. It's close to 4%. I do not have exact specifics for this program, but I think it's also close to 4%. This is program lasting for one year, typically providing lending for affected customers, for the customers from affected sectors, for the working capital needs, or for refinancing of existing debt, actually helping them to reduce debt service during this period of time. We are active participants to that program. We had allocation of KZT 180 billion out of KZT 600 billion, allocation was 30%. So far we provided lending for the amount of KZT 71 billion, which is more than 40% of overall sector disbursements.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Yeah. Who takes the credit risk on this loan? Is it the bank or is it the government when you disburse this to the-

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yeah. It's entirely on the bank and majority of loans which we provided is actually for refinancing of existing loans, basically to Kazakhstan from increasing risk for that segment. On contrary, we are helping the customers to reduce the existing debt service.

Tunde Ojo
Analyst, Harding Loevner

Okay. Got it. Thank you very much. That's all from me. I appreciate it. Thanks.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Peter Boone from Channels Trust.

Peter Boone
Analyst, Channels Trust

Yes. Hi. Thanks very much for taking my question and also for the very detailed and impressive presentation. Obviously, Q1 was also very good, so congratulations on that. I had one question related to dividends and then a second question related to your strategic position. On the dividends, the regulator has said no dividends should be paid by banks this year, or they've recommended that. I presume you're feeling that they'd be happy to modify that or they would make exceptions as long as the economy continues to recover as you see it. Then within that, your policy has been to pay 50%-100% of earnings. Given the strong performance this quarter, and assuming things improve gradually over time, would you be thinking that you need to modify that or is that still likely to be your plan for dividends if the economy stabilizes?

The other question on strategic position. Other banks have been talking about how COVID has obviously caused a more rapid development of the digital platform. Do you feel now with what you've done, that you are now a leader in that in Kazakhstan or the leader, or do you feel there's more development needed? Thanks very much.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Peter, thank you for your questions. One moment, please.

Umut Shayakhmetova
CEO, JSC Halyk Bank

Yes, hello, this is Umut Shayakhmetova, the CEO of the bank. Regarding the dividends, when the decision and recommendations were made to the board of directors and then to the shareholders meeting, we were just at the beginning of the pandemic situation and at this extraordinary situation, which was taken in Kazakhstan. The advice was to withdraw the dividend payment in the first half of the year. Today, I can say that starting June and already seeing the end of first half of the current year, we have a more, I would say, positive mood. As we already said that it's possible that in the second half of this year, the bank will make a decision or reconsider our view regarding the dividend payment. This is all I can say right now.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Regarding your second question, if I understood correctly, the question was regarding our position on digitalization and whether we are one of the top banks in that regard. Yes, in Kazakhstan, there are probably a handful of banks which are very active in developing digital propositions on the market. There are also some non-bank organizations which are also trying to pursue digitalization wave like telecom companies, some companies who have a large client base on retail segments. We believe that we are one of these few organizations in Kazakhstan, one of few banks which are at the front of that changes. The market, we believe, would continue to grow, which would leave the room for a number of such organizations to gain the market and to gain the client base. We think that we would be one of the leaders, one of the beneficiaries, but definitely not the only.

There are a few of them, as I said, not only in the banking segment, and the market is growing and continuing to grow.

Peter Boone
Analyst, Channels Trust

Great. Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

We have a question from Andrei Mikhailov from Sova Capital.

Andrei Mikhailov
Analyst, Sova Capital

Hello. Good afternoon. Thank you very much for the call. I have several questions. Some of them are related to the way things are shown in your financial statements, and in particular, and that's the kind of a traditional question, you have other income this quarter in the amount of approximately KZT 13 billion. Is this mainly composed of a gain from the realization of foreclosed assets? If not, would you be able to elaborate on this? Thank you very much, and I'll have other questions too.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yes, Andrei. Hello. You are right. Most of other income was attributed to sale of assets above the balance sheet value by our SPVs.

Andrei Mikhailov
Analyst, Sova Capital

Thank you very much.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

It was kind of-

Andrei Mikhailov
Analyst, Sova Capital

Thank you very much. For me, that's clear. My second question is on the restructuring, the potential restructuring charge related to your retail and its new loan restructure and maybe corporate restructurings as well. Do you expect such a charge in the second quarter?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Could you please elaborate what do you mean by restructuring charge?

Andrei Mikhailov
Analyst, Sova Capital

Yeah. Thank you for the question. What I mean is that is the amount of so-called loss, which results from the fact that the interest payments are rescheduled and not paid as originally planned or scheduled. When you discount your cash flow for a particular loan, you get a lower NPV for that loan compared to what you had previously. These charges are shown by some banks right now in the current environment, especially on the retail portfolio side.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Yes, understood. Thank you. As I said, the payment holiday does not mean that we stop accruing interest. We also are not providing, let's say, reduction of interest as a result of that exercise. Basically, the NPV of loan is not changed at all, or probably these changes might not be considered as a material. From that perspective, from present value of cash flow perspective, we do not see the impact if we talk about that particular concession program. It should be neutral from that perspective.

Andrei Mikhailov
Analyst, Sova Capital

Thank you. Just a clarification, could you see a bigger impact in some parts of your corporate loan book where you might be doing some restructurings, which are not formally driven by the state?

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

If we talk about the corporate segments, we provided some payment holidays in the sectors which were affected by lockdown, mostly the companies which are dealing through shops, working with general public. We consider these companies having strong position. We do not think that these temporal measures might be material affecting their credit standing. As we speak now, we do not see the need for material change in the credit worthiness assessment of these companies.

Andrei Mikhailov
Analyst, Sova Capital

Okay. Thank you very much. My third question is on the negative revaluation of your securities book, which was posted directly into equity in Q1 in the amount of approximately KZT 35 billion. As I understand, things have already improved in this regard and, well, as of today, you would have reversed a portion of that. My question would be how big could this portion be, the portion that could have been reversed between April 1st and now? Thank you very much. Sorry, also, how would it improve your capital ratios? Thank you.

Murat Koshenov
Deputy CEO of Corporate Banking and International Activities, JSC Halyk Bank

Andrei, one moment, please. Yes, because most of securities which were affected comprehensive income through reassessment were in tenge. They basically link in the change in the interest rate environment, mostly linking to the base rate. Base rates reduced substantially, but it didn't reach yet the level which were before that assessment. Most of that revaluation should return as a result of change of base rates, but would not compensate the full drop. Most of that should be reversed back. Of course, saying that, we have to say that the quarter has not changed yet, and we have to be aware that there might be some other instruments. If we talk about the tenge instruments alone, to a large extent, that revaluation should have positive effect in the second quarter.

Andrei Mikhailov
Analyst, Sova Capital

Thank you very much. Thank you. All from me. Thank you.

Operator

Okay, we have no further questions in the queue at this time. I would like to turn the conference back over to our speakers for any concluding remarks.

Mira Kassenova
Head of Financial Institutions and Investor Relations, JSC Halyk Bank

Dear ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for participating today. I ask you if there are any further questions? Please stay safe and bye.

Operator

Once again, ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference. We appreciate your participation today. You may now disconnect.