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Investor Day 2012

Mar 7, 2012

Speaker 1

Well, good morning, everybody, and welcome to our twenty eleven Annual Results Presentation for our Banking Group. By way of introduction, I think most of you know me, but for those of you who don't, I'm David Brent, and I'm Group Treasurer of the company. And with me today is Pete Linus, our CFO. This presentation was given by Pete and our CEO, Ian King, to the equity analyst about two weeks ago. And the way this will work today is that I will deliver Ian King's presentation, and then I'll hand over to Pete for him to take you through the results for 2011 and the outlook for 2012.

The results contain a number of elements that were not planned at the beginning of the year. We handled the slowing demand in land, the disruption from flooding at Johnson City in The U. S, the Oman OPV contract, the ground combat vehicle and Radway award protests and the deferred trading on Salaam. We've been agile and adjusted to mitigate these events. And what should become apparent, as Pete takes you through the detail, is that the underlying business remains strong.

Underpinning that solid core has been a combination of good program execution and aggressive cost reduction to maintain returns for shareholders in the face of those headwinds. We are operating in a difficult and rapidly changing business environment. These market pressures have been apparent for some time and the group strategy has developed accordingly. We've moved quickly to take the actions necessary to sustain the bottom line in the near term and establish a platform from which growth can be pursued. Affordability has become the priority for our customers.

We've cut costs aggressively to both address reducing demands in some activities and to secure competitive advantage. Cost reduction and efficiencies actions have been underway since 02/2009. We are staying ahead of the volume reductions. The activity will continue. We can still do more.

We don't take these decisions lightly. They are difficult, but essential if we're going to sustain our business. At the same time, we continue to develop our already substantial position in the services sector of our markets to invest in the faster growth streams of business including cyber, commercial avionics and high priority defense electronics to sustain our core industrial capabilities through the strong positions on key programs and to address growth in selected international markets. Cost reduction funds our ability to continue developing the strategy and maintains our competitive edge. We've been successful in growing our position as one of the major providers of capability and services in the cyber and security markets.

Having established a strong position in the government and intelligence related sectors of these markets, we are now seeing the benefits of our most recent drive to expand in the fast growing commercial and financial services markets. We are well positioned on a number of key platform programs such as the Typhoon, the F-thirty five combat aircraft, submarines, naval ships and armored vehicles. These programs form a large core of business with good multiyear order visibility. These programs additionally generate substantial services and support business. Our services offering is one of the differentiating strengths of the group.

Through the provision of military and technical services, we continue to deliver enhanced capabilities, whilst reducing costs for our customers across the air, land and maritime domains. The partnership relationship between the company and the armed forces continues to strengthen. We have been active in supporting U. S. And U.

K. Operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. And more recently, our products and people made a significant contribution to the success of U. K. Operations over Libya.

In The U. S, delays in approving defense budgets resulted in the business operating under continuing resolution restrictions for seven months of 2011. Our business remained resilient through this with only a modest amount of trading disruption as a consequence. The 2012 budget has now been passed with the base budget at the same level as 2011 and a similar level of spend on the investment accounts. The January announcement by the President and Secretary Panetta describing the future strategic direction for U.

S. Defense and security and the recent defense DoD budget were in line with our planning assumptions. The near term budgetary issues have had some impact on the business and there remains significant uncertainty as to U. S. Federal budgets over coming years, but we plan on conservative assumptions.

We have already made decisions on likely spending trends and we'll respond with agility as the facts become clearer. We will not be a victim of the process and we'll stay ahead of the game. In The U. K, budget constraints remain, but following the Strategic Defense and security review in October 2010, there is now greater program stability and better alignment of government funding with defense program commitments. The SDSR impact on the group following the program changes has been to reduce annual sales by some £500,000,000 Actions taken to mitigate the impact of these changes are well underway, including workforce reductions and facility rationalization.

Contract settlement agreements have been concluded. There is also more that can be done to drive efficiency. These opportunities reside not just here within industry, but also in the enhanced contribution that industry can make through the delivery of cost effective support and capability to the armed forces and the security agencies. We continue to work with our U. K.

Customer to help identify further efficiency improvements. We're sorry, I think, it should get one more slide. We are seeing major opportunities mature in our international markets. With order intake in 2011 of £4,800,000,000 from our markets outside The U. S.

And U. K, we are seeing the benefits of our strategy to develop the business across a broad international base. The international footprint provides resilience for the business at a time when defense spending is under pressure in The U. K. And U.

S. In India, we are seeing a steady flow of business from the large HAWK program with Hindustan Aeronautics. In 2011, we booked a further £124,000,000 in Hawk related business. And with other new business, order intake from India totaled £170,000,000 We are also bidding on the large future infantry combat vehicle program through a joint venture with Mahindra and Mahindra and continue to progress the potential sale of M777 artillery. We also benefit from the Mirage 2,000 update in India.

Our share of the weapons order is valued at £300,000,000 On the recent announcement in India, which placed Rafale as the lowest price compliant bid against Typhoon in the MMRCA competition, we all should recognize that this is just a step in the process and not as yet a contract. We will continue to support the Indian customer and the evaluation process. In Brazil, the contract for three OPVs was great news and paves the way for further opportunities to be explored for the Brazilian Navy. In Australia, we continue to build on our position as the leading provider of equipment and support to the Australian Armed Forces, working with the Commonwealth Government to deliver against a clearly laid out multiyear defense and security plan. The potential sale of Typhoons to Oman continues to make good progress.

A formal request for proposals has now been received. This is expected to lead to business valued in excess of £2,000,000,000 with opportunity for further Hawk business on top of that. Interest in Typhoon is high. In addition to Oman, we have discussions underway in Malaysia, Qatar and The UAE. We also anticipate requirements in Saudi will extend beyond the existing order.

Defense spending remains a high priority in The Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia and we continue to deliver a broad range of capabilities to their armed forces. Our announcement at the start of the year identified the streams of work that are underway, included the changes to the Salaam program. The proposed changes relate to final assembly of the last 48 of the 72 Typhoon aircraft to the creation of a maintenance and upgrade facility in The Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia initial provisioning for subsequent insertion of tranche three capability in respect of the last 24 aircraft and finalization of price escalation. On the core Saudi British Defense Cooperation Program, budgets have been established for the next five years. The budget provides for an upgrade of the training environment including new Hawk aircraft and that's significant new business.

As we reported, good progress on these discussions have been made in the weeks before year end with budgets now approved in The Kingdom on all items other than price escalation. To scale this, we have already booked £1,200,000,000 of orders following approval of the budgets in Saudi. Negotiations will continue into 2012 on the price escalation. And as we said last year, the contract settlement is key, not the timing of the settlement. In summary, this is a difficult operating environment, but the focus on cost efficiency and program execution together with our international footprint and strong positions in priority segments of the defense, aerospace and security markets are contributing to our sustained performance.

We have a resilient platform for future growth, but in a rapidly changing environment, agility at all levels of the group is becoming ever more important, whether it be responding quickly to meet urgent customer requirements or to address changes in markets. We will continue to keep our strategy under review and we'll move to adjust our portfolio of businesses where it is in the interest of shareholders. Growth in shareholder value remains the unambiguous objective. Our position on capital allocation is clear. Despite the challenging trading environment, we have returned £2,200,000,000 to shareholders over the last two years as well as maintained the development of the business.

We are particularly pleased with the integration and performance of the acquisitions that we completed in the year. I'll now turn over to Pete, who will take you through the 2011 results and the outlook for 2012. And after that, there will be an opportunity for any questions that you'd like to raise. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Good morning, everybody. Today is the first time that we've reported under the new segmental structure. We made these changes for three primary reasons. Firstly, to better align to the group's strategic direction of electronic systems, platforms and services secondly, to give disclosure on how our Cyber Intelligence assets are performing and thirdly, to improve external alignment of our reported performance to management of the operations. And I'm sure you'll find the increased disclosure helpful.

There are several items that impact the numbers materially and I'll highlight those as I go through the relevant sectors. I'm going to cover the 2011 results first and then move on to guidance for 2012. So firstly, the headline numbers and compared to 2010, sales declined by 14% to £19,200,000,000 primarily from the volume reductions in Land and Armaments, the impacts of the SDSR on The U. K. Business and delay in securing some of those contract changes to the Saudi Typhoon program.

Underlying EBITDA reduced by 7% to 2,025,000,000.000 Underlying earnings per share of 45.6p included 5.9p arising from the previously announced U. K. R and D tax settlement. And excluding that benefit, underlying EPS was almost unchanged over the prior year. Operating cash flow totaled £634,000,000 and net debt closed at £1,439,000,000 Finally, the dividend for the year has been increased to 18.8p per share, up 7.4% on the 2010 dividend.

And at this level, the dividend is covered 2.1 times by underlying earnings per share excluding the R and D tax settlement. The 2011 results and their comparison to 2010 have been affected by both M and A and exchange rates. The acquisitions announced towards the 2010 were all completed in the 2011. In addition, following the disposal of the Regional Aircraft Asset Management business, the results of Regional Aircraft are now reported as a discontinued operation and prior year figures have been restated accordingly. The average U.

S. Dollar exchange rate for the year was $1.6 compared to $1.55 in 2010. And we have appended to the presentation pack the adjustments we make to produce like for like comparisons. So like for like sales reduced by 15% or £3,200,000,000 of which £2,200,000,000 came from the volume reductions in the land business. Underlying EBITDA of £2,025,000,000 gave a return on sales of 10.6%.

Underlying finance costs of £199,000,000 were £8,000,000 higher than in 2010 and this included a charge of £28,000,000 for the costs arising from the early debt redemption related to the regional aircraft disposal. Most of that cost would have been borne in 2012 and 2013. There was a goodwill impairment charge taken of £94,000,000 relating to the surface ships and land businesses. The underlying tax rate of 26% was 2% lower than previous guidance and this excludes the benefit arising from The UK R and D settlement. A number of items have impacted the balance sheet in the year.

Firstly, the acquisitions made have increased intangible assets. Secondly, the regional aircraft disposal has reduced tangible fixed assets. And thirdly, working capital has increased for the consumption of advances on the Salaam and European Typhoon Tranche two programs, utilization of provisions and for the delay in expected cash receipts pending completion of the changes to the Salaam contract. The reported pension deficit has increased by £1,100,000,000 and I'll get to the pension position on the next couple of slides. Deferred tax assets increased on the higher pension deficit.

Financial assets and liabilities at the beginning of the year contained the carrying value of our holding in Saab, which we sold in the first half. And finally, then net debt increased to just over £1,400,000,000 This slide shows the pension scheme assets, liabilities and the deficit as accounted for under IAS 19. The value of the scheme's assets has increased over the year to £18,100,000,000 In aggregate, across all the group's pension plans, equity investments now comprise 51% of scheme assets. Over the year, liabilities have increased by £2,000,000,000 The year's discount unwind accounts for £1,100,000,000 of that increase and a further £300,000,000 arises from changes in assumptions, relating to mortality increases. Real discount rates reduced by the net of lower bond yields and lower inflation assumption and this accounts for the rest of that increase.

So, the net impact of all those movements is an increase to the group's accounting pension deficit of £1,100,000,000 Now that's the accounting at December 31. I'll turn now to the funding valuations, which determine our cash contribution levels and the positions that we have now reached on the two largest U. K. Schemes, the main scheme and 2,000 plan plus two of the smaller U. K.

Schemes. This chart shows a new funding deficit on those four schemes and a comparison to the position expected in 2008 when the last deficit recovery plans were agreed. Whilst the funding deficit has increased only slightly to some £3,000,000,000 it is £1,100,000,000 higher than would have been expected three years ago due primarily to the lower discount rates and the resulting increase in liabilities. The company and the schemes trustees have now reached agreement as to these funding deficits, the sustainment of the remaining fifteen year deficit recovery period and revised funding profiles. The U.

K. Pensions regulator has been briefed and we await final acceptance from him of those agreements. Of the incremental £1,100,000,000 of funding required, some £130,000,000 was paid in 2011. Around £200,000,000 in aggregate will be paid over the next five years and the remainder some £800,000,000 is scheduled over the subsequent ten years. Total annual deficit funding across all group schemes will be some £400,000,000 in 2012.

The agreement reached on the sustainment of our multiyear deficit recovery period and the new schedules for deficit clearance are an equitable outcome. The group's U. K. Defined benefit schemes are all being closed to new entrants. Turning to cash flow.

Cash flow from operating activities totaled £951,000,000 and this number is stated after pension deficit funding of £375,000,000 After net capital expenditure of £268,000,000 dividends received of £88,000,000 and further pension contributions of 137,000,000 made into a trust mechanism, the operating business cash flow totaled £634,000,000 The cash flow performance of the five sectors is shown here, but I'll return to this when I cover the results of each of the sectors. Just one point to note here, the all up total for pension deficit funding made in 2011 was £512,000,000 and the cash outflow at head office contains £266,000,000 of that. This next slide sets out the movement in net debt throughout the year. We started the year with debt of £242,000,000 Interest, tax and dividends totaled 1,039,000,000.000 The £500,000,000 share buyback program announced with the interim results was completed in December. We acquired 184,000,000 shares or 5.4% of the issued capital at an average price of £2.73 per share.

The acquisitions completed in the first half, net of the proceeds received on disposals, including our SARP holding and the Regional Aircraft transaction amounted to $256,000,000 Exchange translation and all other movements totaled £27,000,000 closing net debt then of £1,439,000,000 This next chart shows the gross debt, cash and net debt of the group. At the start of the year, borrowings amounted to £3,000,000,000 with cash held at £2,800,000,000 giving the reported net debt of £200,000,000 The total cash outflow for the year was 1,200,000,000.0 Within the year, we repaid debt financing of £1,000,000,000 and the blended rate of that debt was 5.5%. New term debt of £800,000,000 was put in place in October and that debt was in three tranches of a five, ten and thirty year terms at a blended rate of 4.75%. Holdings of low cost short term commercial paper were increased by £400,000,000 and therefore at the end of the year, total borrowings had increased to £3,200,000,000 cash holdings reduced to £1,800,000,000 and net debt was therefore £1,400,000,000 We expect much of the commercial paper to be redeemed in the short term. Pension deficit funding will be some £200,000,000 in the 2012 and the final dividend for 2011 of £400,000,000 is payable on the May 1.

We continue to manage the group's balance sheet conservatively to retain our investment grade credit rating and to ensure operating flexibility in dealing with our working capital volatility. The cash dependency from the Salaam contract amendments is a prime example of that volatility. Our approach to capital allocation is that we will meet our pension obligations and continue to pursue organic investment opportunities that meet our financial criteria. We plan to pay dividends in line with the group's policy of long term sustainable cover of around two times and return capital to shareholders when the balance sheet allows. Investment in value enhancing acquisitions will be considered when market conditions are right and where they deliver on the group's strategy.

The combination of share buybacks and dividend payments in 2010 and 2011 has been around £2,200,000,000 or around 20% of current market capitalization. Now turning to the sectors, and I'm going to cover the in year performance here and then turn to 2012 outlooks a little later. So to the first of those sectors Electronic Systems and the figures here are shown in U. S. Dollars.

Sales compared to 2010 decreased by 7% to $4,200,000,000 primarily due to the completed F-twenty two and A Turcum production contracts, the rescheduled JSF program and the Johnson City flooding, which resulted in some in sales of some $100,000,000 being deferred into 2012. The return on sales achieved of 14.6% was marginally above the very top end of our forecast range. Program execution was strong with good risk retirement seen on those completing production contracts. The business also delivered in year benefit from continued cost reduction actions. Order backlog increased marginally to $5,600,000,000 despite some delays and disruption in contract awards caused by the continuing resolution, which operated throughout the 2011.

Cash conversion of EBITDAR for the year was 69%. Excluding pension deficit funding, that conversion rate was 80%, which was impacted slightly by the timing of insurance receipts following the Johnson City flood. The Cyber and Intelligence sector comprises the U. S. Intelligence and Security Solutions business together with Detika and the numbers here are again shown in U.

S. Dollars. In aggregate, sales of $2,200,000,000 increased by 21% over 2010. Of this growth, 17% came from the acquisitions of L1, ETI and NORCOM. And each of those acquisitions has been accretive to earnings in the year and are on track to meet the performance underpinning their acquisition cases.

The margin achieved of 9.7% was after both the integration costs of the business acquisitions made and organic investments as we positioned Detika to have less reliance on government consulting business and towards growth in commercial markets. Cash conversion of EBITDA for the year was at 90% and order backlog increased to $1,700,000,000 primarily on the backlog acquired with the acquisition of L1. The U. S. Platforms and services sector aggregates the land and armaments and the support solutions businesses.

The numbers here are again shown in U. S. Dollars. As promised, we wanted to provide appropriate transparency as to the respective performance of the two businesses within this sector. So this slide shows the performance of those two businesses.

Firstly, addressing Land and Armaments. Sales declined by 38% to $5,700,000,000 some 5% short of the guidance that we gave at the interim results presentation. There was the expected reduction arising from the completing FMTV contract and lower level of Bradley reset activity. And most of the shortfall to guidance arose from the delayed start of the ground combat vehicle program following the award protest and deferred customer funding for the Cayman upgrade activity. Both of those programs are now underway.

In addition, there was some small impact from business disposals made in the year. Margin at 9.3% was also below guidance. We self funded the costs of the GCV team during the three months of award protest. And as a result of the delayed contract placements for GCV and Cayman upgrades, there was a short term under recovery of overheads. Cash conversion of operating profit was at 84% as investment in The UK munitions facility continued throughout the year.

In the Support Solutions business, sales increased as expected by 5%, including the benefit from last year's Atlantic Marine acquisition. Margin of 8.4% was at the high end of our forecast range and cash conversion was at 91%. Order backlog increased to $5,200,000,000 primarily for the three multi ship, multi option five year awards that we received in the first half year. The $850,000,000 award for the Radford Army munition plant was finally confirmed in January and this is therefore yet to be included within the reported backlog. In the Platforms and Services U.

K. Sector, sales of £6,300,000,000 reduced compared to 2010 by 4% due to the delay in securing certain of the contract amendments on the Salam Typhoon program. The 2011 return on sales of 10.5% included three material items: the £125,000,000 benefit from the higher level of rationalization cost recovery agreed in June with The U. K. MOD the first half charge of £160,000,000 taken on the Oman offshore patrol vessel contract and a £60,000,000 benefit from the increase in carrying value of the ex Trinidad And Tobago ships to recognize their value under the resale contract to the Brazilian Navy signed in December.

As forecast, there was only a small cash inflow in the year as customer advances were consumed on Typhoon and cash expended on the Oman OPV program. The 2011 performance of the international business has been materially impacted by the delay in securing the contract amendments to the Salaam Typhoon program and particularly the formalization of price escalation, where applicable trading has been deferred until ongoing negotiations have been completed. As a result, the year sales of £3,800,000,000 are 12% lower than in 2010. The absolute year over year reduction is primarily on the maturing tornado upgrade and core support programs and the completed Tactica vehicle delivery contract. However, EBITDA of £449,000,000 is unchanged from the prior year as strong performance and risk reduction was delivered on both the tornado upgrade and core support programs.

In the absence of the cash payments we had expected from the Salaam contract amendments, there was a significant cash utilization on the Salaam program. Order book has reduced pending receipt of contracts against the budgets approved in December on the Saudi core and Typhoon programs. For reference, there is a chart providing a summary of the trading performance of the five secondtors along with the numbers for HQ, which are little changed from last year and that's appended to the presentation packs that you have. Now given the number of moving parts within the year's results compared to twenty ten's, we provided this chart to bridge between the two years at the earnings per share level. Starting at the left of the chart is last year's earnings per share of 39.8p.

From that, the two red boxes represent the impacts of the lower land volume and the year over year charges taken on the Oman and Trinidad And Tobago ship contracts. The next three green boxes show The U. K. Rationalization cost recovery benefit, the write up of the ex Trinidad And Tobago ships and then all other operational improvements. Then there is the impact of exchange translation and increases from the year's lower tax rate and reduced share base following the 2010 and 2011 buyback programs.

Earnings per share then of 39.7p plus the R and D tax settlement giving a total for the year of 45.6p. What I'll move on to now is the outlook for 2012, which I'll do sector by sector before giving an overall guidance for the group. With the new sector reporting structure now in place, this final chart seeks to give better granularity as to how we see each sector's performance developing from 2011 through into 2012 within the context of The U. S. And U.

K. Market conditions that David referred to earlier. Given the uncertainties in the market, we feel it is appropriate this year to give us extra disclosure. So firstly, Electronic Systems. Overall, we expect sales volumes in 2012 to be broadly similar to those in 2011, albeit with a different mix.

Some 15% of this business is in the commercial aerospace and hybrid drive markets where we expect good levels of growth. The majority of the sales lost in 2011 from the Johnson City flooding should also be recovered. On the defense side, we anticipate a small reduction as operational tempo driven activity completes. And on margins, we would expect the high level seen in 2011 to return to within our long term guidance range of 12% to 14%. Next, Cyber and Intelligence.

And here, we continue to plan for growth at around the mid single digit mark. And whilst The U. S. Business, which is some 80% of this sector, is expected to have a lower growth rate, the Detika business is planned at a double digit level, supported by its continued expansion in commercial markets. Margins in 2012 are expected to be within an 8.5% to 9.5% range with further organic investment planned for Detika and the acquired ETI and NORCOM businesses.

Moving to Platforms and Services in The U. S. The overall guidance is as shown on this chart that is with a further reduction in sales, but an improvement in margin levels. And the guidance for this sector is best addressed in two parts. On Land and Armaments, we now see sales at the $5,000,000,000 level rather than the previous $6,000,000,000 guidance.

And whilst we have seen recent positive customer commitments to land programs, we do see land as being the largest bill payer under The U. S. Defense cuts with uncertain levels of force reductions clearly impacting the business. On specific programs such as GCV, JLTV and Cayman upgrades, we have already seen delayed and reduced levels of funding being committed by the customer and we expect this to continue. And in giving us further downward revision, we are seeking to provide a top line floor.

And to that end and excluding the more short term Individual Protection Systems business, some 88% of the sales guidance is within order backlog. They're giving a limited worst case downside. Of the remaining 12%, half is from sole source procurements to be won in the year, the remainder to won competitively. As to the margin level, we target delivery close to the 10% mark, but both the award and timing of key programs such as JLTV underpin the viability of the tactical wheeled vehicle facilities. In the Support Solutions business, we anticipate 2012 sales to be around the 2011 level.

Customer scheduled activity in the naval shipyards is lower in 2012, but we expect this to be compensated for by new business elsewhere including from the Radford Munition Plant award. And margins in the Support Solutions business are expected to be slightly lower than in 2011. Turning next to Platforms and Services U. K. We expect sales in 2012 to be broadly similar to last year's.

Under the Salaam Typhoon contract, there are now no aircraft deliveries scheduled until 2013, following completion in 2011 of the last six of the 24 aircraft that were diverted from The U. K. Build program. In the absence of any such large events as seen in 2011 and despite a slightly higher pension service cost arising from the lower pension discount rates, margins in the sector should be maintained within our 10% to 12% range. And to the last of our sectors Platforms and Services International.

Here we expect sales to show significant growth well in excess of 25%. Firstly, for the deferred trading arising from the Salam price escalation on which as David said earlier, we expect to conclude negotiations this year. Secondly, for the higher levels of support to the Typhoon aircraft now in service. And finally, for commencement of weapon deliveries under the Tornado upgrade program. Clearly, timing of the Salaam price escalation negotiations will determine the shape of the twenty twelve first halfsecond half split.

And margins are expected to be around the 10% level. HQ costs are expected to be broadly similar and finance costs will be lower following the early debt redemption charges taken in 2011. Our effective tax rate is now expected to be within the 26% to 28% range and this is a little higher than in 11%, but well below our previous guidance of 30%. So in aggregate, whilst little sales growth can be expected in the current market conditions, modest growth in underlying earnings per share is anticipated. Assuming a satisfactory conclusion to Salarm negotiations in 2012 and excluding the benefit of the 2011 R and D tax settlement.

And as to cash, a higher level of operating business cash inflow is planned in 2012 with the anticipated benefit of the cash payment related to the Salaam program. And we'll now turn it over to questions.

Speaker 1

Who wants to ask the first question? If not, we can take questions informally over lunch or further coffee, if that's how people would prefer to handle it. Looks like it. Okay. We'll go with that.

Thank you.

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