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Earnings Call: H2 2021

Jun 17, 2021

Speaker 1

Hello, good morning. I'm Kenny Wilson, the CEO of Doctor. Martens and I'd like to welcome you to our annual results presentation. Our agenda today, I'm going to walk through a short introduction of the last year and of our brand, then I'm going to hand over to John, our CFO, who's going to walk you through the financials and then I'll give a strategic review of the year highlighting some key points from our strategy. At 09:30, we'll also be doing a live WebEx covering any questions that any of you would like to ask us around the past year.

So So the last year for Doctor. Martens has been all about our long term brand custodian mindset delivering a strong set of results. We've proved to be incredibly resilient through COVID-nineteen. Initially, we focused on cash, but then we invested in our brand and we focused on keeping our people and consumers safe. We've delivered strong results at the top end of our IPO guidance with revenues up 15% and EBITDA up 22%.

Our DOC strategic framework, which is tried and tested over the last three years, remains unchanged and will drive us forward. Today, we're also announcing upgraded sustainability targets for the future. And finally, and most importantly, we are very confident in the year ahead and beyond and therefore the guidance we gave at IPO is reiterated. The custodian mindset, this is the philosophy on which we run Doctor. Martens.

It's all about long term thinking. It's all about a brand first mindset. And the role for all of us at Doctor. Martens is to take after this brand, to look after it and to make sure that we hand it over to the next generation in better shape than we received it. So a little bit about Doctor.

Martens in terms of background. We're an iconic brand with more than sixty years of heritage with iconic product, which I'll talk about later. We have broad appeal. Doctor. Martens sells to people of all ages, of all walks of life around the world.

Consumers love their docs. And what that means is after you buy into this brand, you stick with it and you tell your friends about how much you love Doctor. Martin's. Our business model is direct to consumer led. It's e commerce first supported by our stores which are profitable brand beacons in key cities around the world.

And we have a track record of sustainable and profitable growth as a private business, which we will continue in the public markets. And probably most excitingly of all, we have significant headroom for global growth around the world. So with that, I'm going to hand over to John, who's going to walk you through the financials. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Kenny, and good morning, everybody. My name is John Mortimore and I'm CFO at Doctor. Martins. I'm here to talk to you the story of our financial performance for the year ended thirty one March twenty twenty one. Wow, what a year.

We saw COVID related lockdowns. We listed on the London Stock Exchange and refinanced our balance sheet and regrew which is testament to the strength of the brand. Our financial results were at the top end of guidance and the shape of the delivery of the numbers was bang in line with our DOC strategy as volume led with margin expansion and highly cash generative. Finally, forward guidance is unchanged. We grew Pairs by 14%.

We grew revenue by 15%, gross margin by 17% and EBITDA grew by 22% to million. In effect, growth expanded as we move down the profit and loss account, DOCS strategy in action. The result was EBITDA margin expansion by 1.6 percentage points to 29% predominantly driven by improved gross margins. E commerce revenue was particularly strong and grew 73% in the year to represent 30% of our revenue mix, up 10 percentage points year on year. This was part due to the societal shift towards e commerce trading.

ActLab was accelerated due to COVID, which we believe will stick, but it was also part our focus in this area. We did not cut digital spending through COVID. We continued to build our regional trading teams and we invested in improving the efficiency of our econ picking in our own DCs. Retail not unsurprisingly declined by 40%. We continue to see retail as an important channel to showcase both our brand and our product and during the year we opened 18 new stores.

Wholesale grew 18% with good growth from pure play e tailers and also good growth from websites of more traditional players. We continue to focus on larger and brand enhancing accounts and in the year revenue per account increased by 15%. Ninety five % of the revenue growth was from selling more pairs of boots and shoes to new and existing consumers, banging line of strategy. Channel mix declined by two percentage points in the year, all retail. We did increase prices in the year by around 2.5% in autumnwinter twenty twenty in EMEA and springsummer twenty twenty in Americas.

That said, we do not anticipate moving prices up during the current financial year. We view price increases as an inflationary funding necessity. We do not have a price led strategy. Gross margin improved by 1.2 percentage points to 60.9%. This was mainly due to supply chain efficiencies.

Price increases broadly offset the retail led cost of channel mix decline and also inflation. We expect to see the business return to D2C led channel mix expansion from FY '20 '20 '2 onwards and we continue to target at least a 60% revenue mix from e commerce and retail in the medium term. At IPO, we guided efficiency savings to be around 5% of revenue and we've achieved that much faster than anticipated. This was mainly faster cross cost comparison of savings between factories, volume related input savings and lower duties. We will not be increasing our target savings as we have seen increased input costs from spring summer twenty twenty two season.

In effect, we expect stronger savings to broadly fund increased costs. Turning to look at each region, I will try and comment by exception it will save me saying very strong e comm growth multiple times. EMEA grew revenue by 17% and EBITDA by 25%. We opened nine new stores, four in Germany, Four in France and our first store in Italy in Rome. We also closed three stores in The UK at end of later term.

We are particularly pleased with our first full year of trading in Germany following conversion to a directly controlled model in the prior year. During the year, we also converted the Nordics which is Sweden, Denmark and Finland with good early results. Taking a closer look at Germany. The rationale for conversion is to control the brand and then implement the DOC strategy. This is not a single year step, but a multi year plan.

Looking at the last three years from FY 2019 to FY 2021, we converted the market in FY 2020. The first selling of our wholesale business was autumn winter twenty nineteen. FY 2020 to FY 2019 grew by 88%. This was mainly the capture of the in market margin as wholesale revenue per pair is approximately £10 better to us than distributor revenue per pair. Across the three year period, we've been implementing the DOC strategy.

We've opened 10 new stores to showcase the brand and the product and support e commerce. Product breadth has expanded with the Fusion category increasing from 18% of our mix to 30% of our mix. We've rationalized the wholesale account base closing around 200 of our inherited 500 accounts to focus on large accounts. We have also opened around 50 high end brand enhancing AMP accounts. Despite lockdown and social distancing restrictions, we grew revenue last year by 56%.

Of all three regions, Americas was probably the least impacted by COVID related restrictions.

Speaker 1

All our own stores were closed during

Speaker 2

the first quarter and have traded as open since Q2 but with capacity restrictions which have varied on a state by state basis. Wholesalers followed a similar pattern. However, a number of our customers' stores did trade throughout particularly those with stores located away from the coastal cities in Mid America. E commerce was exceptionally strong and we opened six new stores in the year. APAC is made up from two main countries.

The largest is Japan. Here we have a predominantly retail model where we have 22 owned retail stores and also 32 mono branded franchise stores. The second is China. Here we operate our own website hosted on Tmall platform and also have 85 mono branded franchise stores. The balance is a combination of South Korea where we have predominantly our own retail concession based model and also a third party distributor business across a number of countries, the largest of which being Australia.

In Japan, we've had very, very good e commerce trading though from a low base, but store closures and social restrictions have continued throughout the year and indeed are in place today. Here revenue was slightly up. In China, we are continuing to invest in our people process and systems to build a long term strong business. In China revenue grew by 46%. Kenny will talk a little bit more about China later on.

Profit before tax and exceptionals was million. We incurred an exceptional charge of million in the year which was all IPO related. Of this, the cash costs of the company was only million which is at the lower end of the guidance range. Taxes were million and represented a percentage charge of 49%. This was higher than The UK corporation tax rate mainly due to the non deductibility of legacy funding costs of preference shares and IPO related exceptionals.

The underlying tax rate would have been around two percentage points higher than The UK tax rate due to the variability of international tax rates and also LTIP accounting. We have given three EPS calculations all on a diluted basis. Basic earnings per share after everything was 3.6p. We've then given an adjusted earnings per share basis excluding exceptional items of 11.6p. Finally, we've calculated a normalized adjusted figure.

This excludes exceptional items and also excludes the legacy funding costs of the preference shares that have now fully been repaid. This normalized basis is probably a better representation of a go forward figure for us in a listed environment at 14.5p. Operating cash conversion of EBITDA was unusually strong at 104% representing a normalization of balance sheet working capital at March 2021 compared to March 2020. Looking forward as we grow, I would expect working capital to be negative as we build inventory and have higher trade debtors with conversion in the high 70s to low 80s. CapEx at 2.7% of revenue was low.

This reflected decisions taken very early on in the year to protect cash and the deferral of certain larger IT related projects. These have now been restarted and I expect CapEx to be around the top end of guidance for FY 2022. We are a highly cash generative business. We started the year with million of cash and we ended with million of cash. And this is after refinancing all legacy funding arrangements with new debt and using million of our own resources.

At the 03/31/2021, we had net gearing including IFRS 16 leases of 1.2 times. As I said earlier, we are maintaining guidance. A few highlights from you on this slide. FY 2021 EBITDA was ahead of consensus, but this is mainly timing. Faster delivery of supply chain savings with future additional savings required to fund increased input costs and also following much stricter social distancing and lockdowns in EMEA in the second half, OpEx of around million was deferred and will be sent in the first half of FY twenty twenty two.

It's also worth noting the first half of the new financial year will have a further million of annualization of PLC and LTIP costs. Current trading in aggregate is in line with expectation and we'll be giving more details of Q1 trading at our AGM. We remain confident in the medium term journey to a 30% EBITDA margin as we continue to invest to grow following a pay as you go model to deliver long term value. Finally, we expect our first dividend payment after the first half of the new financial year to be payable in January 2022. We have a progressive dividend policy and payout ratio of 25% to 35%.

Thank you. Before handing back to Kenny, we'd like to share with you a video of the last financial year for the DOCS business.

Speaker 1

Thanks very much, John. And hopefully, that video gives you a little bit of the energy of the last year at Doctor. Martens. It's been all about our brand custodians around the world doing what we said we would, but at the same time preparing the brand for an even brighter future. And the most important thing at Doctor.

Martens is our brand. Doctor. Martens is all about rebellious self expression. Rebellious self expression is not how you look, it's a mindset. The people who buy into Doctor.

Martins are independent thinkers, they're free thinkers, they like to do things in their own way. And when we've researched this concept around the world, what we've actually seen is this is a universally appealing concept as I'll talk about later. So this demonstrates the journey that Doctor. Martens is on as a business. DMs has always been a great brand, but what we're doing now is we're building a great business around that.

To give some context of the journey, it was only ten years ago that this business was family owned, it was predominantly wholesale led, we had limited brand control and we had a prolific product range. What we're doing today is we're professionalizing the business. As you've just heard from John, it's all about being digital first and direct to consumer led. It's about working with the right strategic wholesale partners and cleaning up our business around the world. We've built a globally integrated supply chain and we're focused on the right form of growth.

The quality of our earnings is as important to us as the quantity of our earnings. And probably most importantly, from a product strategy standpoint, it's all about originals at the core. So let me tell you a little bit about the product strategy of the business. So the absolute bullseye of Doctor. Martens is the fourteen sixty, the iconic A tie boot known around the world with its distinctive heel loop, its yellow stitching and its grooved sole.

This product alone represents 43% of our business and it sits absolutely at the heart of the originals category. The original products are all archival products from Doctor. Martin's history. And as you can see in the image there, in every Doctor. Martin store around the world, there is an original icon wall.

The second most important category for DMs is Fusion, and the best selling product here is JADON. JADON is essentially an amped up version of a fourteen sixty with a zip. And you can see once again, it shares all the characteristic docs DNA. If you see someone walking down the streets, whether it be in Tokyo, in London or in Manhattan, you instantly know with Fusion that it's a Doctor. Martin.

Within the Fusion category is sandals. Sandals is one of the fastest growing parts of our business, which helps us to grow in a spring summer season. And as John's explained, sandals grew 54% this year. Kids is another exciting opportunity for DMs. It's only 5% of our sales today, but we believe it's a real growth opportunity for the future.

And our kids strategy is really simple. It's mini me versions of originals and fusion. In terms of casual, this is a business that we've repositioned over the last couple of years and we've retargeted it with a very contemporary lens looking to target the younger consumer who's maybe bought sneakers in the past and is coming in to buy their first pair of DMs. And then finally, collaborations. You saw on the video how important collaborations are to us, not from a revenue standpoint, but from a positioning standpoint.

We work with like minded brands to position Doctor. Martens in opinion leading distribution to opinion leading consumers around the world. Finally, accessories. Our business here is very simple. It focuses on leather bags and then shoe care.

Shoe care is very important because the most important thing is looking after your docs so that they are sustainable for the future and that's really important to our consumer base. So the essence of our product strategy is a core focus on Doctor. Martin's DNA. Alongside our product is obviously our brand and we have a very simple brand love formula. This originated in The UK market, but it applies in every country around the world.

The first step of that is exceptional brand love and awareness. When people buy into Doctor. Martens, they tell their friends about this brand and that's why we have the number one net promoter score in footwear across our seven core markets. Secondly, Doctor. Martens has incredible democratic appeal.

People often say to me, who is the Doctor. Martens consumer? And I say everyone because we appeal across genders. We're almost a fiftyfifty brand. We sell to all ages and all walks of life.

DMs is accessible to everyone. We're also sticky through life stages. And what that means in simple terms is most people buy their first pair of DMs when they're late teens or early 20s. And then those people stay with us and they go on to buy just less than three pairs across their lifetime on average. And then finally, Dox is right for multiple occasions.

You can wear your Dox if you go to the office, you can wear them to school, you can wear them to visit the pub, you can go to a festival or you can go to a gig. And what that means is people never throw their Doctor. Martens at the back of the closet. They're integral to their lifestyle. So we have real brand love.

This is the strategy on which we run the business. Docs, it's a tried and tested formula. The DOCS is unchanging, but our focus areas, they're constantly evolving as the business evolves. The D is about direct to consumer acceleration. This is about controlling our own destiny.

And as you heard from John, in the last year, this has been about driving more of our business through e commerce. We've been investing in building our digital capability over the last three years. So when the pandemic hit, we were able to move in an agile way and shift our business towards e commerce. And then our stores are there in service of the website. In terms of O operational excellence, this is about unlocking value and enabling growth.

And we've been building a best in class supply chain over the last few years, which once again meant that we could react when the pandemic struck us. See, the most important pillar of our strategy, consumer connection. It's about building meaningful relationships with more consumers in more countries. It's all about our product strategy that I've talked about, our marketing strategy that I'm going to come on and talk about, and then also our sustainability journey. We know how important sustainability is to our consumers, but also the people of Doctor.

Martens who work here. Finally, sustainable global growth. This is about growing our business in the right way. It's about prioritizing our resources against our top seven markets. It's about growing with the right wholesale accounts, as John talked about.

And then we're calling out the fact that we are building and establishing strong foundations in the Chinese market. We're investing in the right people. We're investing in infrastructure. And we're approaching this with a custodian mindset for the future. So I'm just going to go into each of those now in a little bit more detail.

So starting with D, controlling our own destiny. As you've heard, our e commerce revenues were up 73%, some of the highlights of our FY 2021 performance. We now have 13 directly controlled .com websites. Our regional trading teams drove growth everywhere and we built out our distribution centers to optimize for the single pick pack of e commerce. In terms of FY 2022, our focus here will be about driving localization and personalization of our sites.

In terms of retail, obviously, with lockdowns around the world, our business declined. However, we did open 18 new stores in key cities around the world and our stores continue to support our e commerce business. The photograph that you see there is of Rome, which is our first store in the Italian market. Prior to opening the Rome store, our number one city for e commerce was Milano. But three months after opening Rome, what we saw is that Rome is now our number one city for e commerce sales.

So what this once again demonstrates, as we've seen around the world, is our stores are there in support of the website. And so therefore, for FY 2022, our focus is to open a further 20 to 25 stores in key cities globally. In terms of S, our focus here is about quality growth. First of all, in wholesale, it's about building our partner relationships. We will continue to rationalize our account base, work with fewer people and the best partners possible.

And as John shared in the numbers, as a consequence of this strategy, our wholesale revenue per account continues to grow, up 15% this year. Our goal for FY 2022 is to continue to build shopping shop space and branded space. You see a great example in the image from Sutarium in Paris and this is what we'll continue to do around the world to build the presence of the Doctor. Martens brand. In terms of distributors, we've got some great distribution partners around the world.

But our focus for EMEA is about successful conversion from a distributor to an owned and operated business where we implement the DOC strategy. You've seen from John that in the first full year of our control in Germany, we've now moved that to our number two business in EMEA and we also converted the Nordics successfully in the last year. Alongside of that, our EMEA team prepared to bring back the Italian and Spanish markets. And we laid the foundations there, hiring the right people and opening offices in those markets. You can see an example in the photograph of our new Barcelona showroom, which I'm sure everyone in our team will want to visit.

But in all seriousness, our FY22 focus will be about doing what we did in Germany and deliver the DOC strategy in the Italian and Spanish markets to build brand equity and to drive growth. In terms of O operational excellence, as John said, we sold more boots and shoes to more people up to 12,700,000 pairs and our supply chain coped admirably. We saw the benefits from our multi country sourcing approach as COVID hit Asia Pacific. In the midst of the pandemic, we actually opened a new third party DC in New Jersey on the East Coast Of The U. S.

To support our econ business. And as you've seen, we improved our gross margins by delivering our efficiencies ahead of plan. In terms of what we're going to do in FY 2022, we're going to build capacity and capability to further enable payers growth around the world. And actually, we've just opened a new third party distribution center in Los Angeles, which is already shipping e com orders on the West Coast Of The United States. In terms of IT, well, at the beginning of the year, we had to rapidly deploy new technologies to make sure that large parts of our workforce could work from home and we did that successfully.

Alongside of that, we invested in new people and we also continue to invest in cybersecurity, which is a very important issue for us. For the IT team, the number one priority item for financial year 2022 is the rollout of the Microsoft Dynamics system in Asia Pacific. And then at that point, the entire company will be on the same Microsoft Dynamics platform, which is a real step forward for Doctor. Martens and part of our professionalization approach. For me, C is the most important pillar, connecting with our consumers.

Even though the world was in lockdown, this was a big year for our tough as you marketing campaign, which went from strength to strength. This started out as a brand campaign, but actually during the year it moved forward and it became a brand initiative where we were able to drive purpose to create access and opportunities for underrepresented youth across the world, doing something that Doctor. Martens really believes in. Another area of our marketing focus was to invest in our product portfolio about building out our range awareness. You see an image there of the Jaden that I showed earlier, which is one of our six most important products.

And around the world, we invested in telling more consumers about the diversity of the Doctor. Martens product offer. This brand is also driven by social communities and we have a highly, highly engaged social community for Doctor. Martens. We've got almost 9,000,000 followers in Instagram and Facebook.

But towards the end of the financial year, it was extremely exciting to all of us. We launched on TikTok and we got an amazing reaction. In less than eight weeks, we garnered 190,000 followers and we got more than 1,000,000 likes on TikTok, which just shows the strength of the brand. And then finally, we know our Doctor. Martens consumers absolutely love music.

And obviously, they were locked down. They couldn't go to gigs. They couldn't go to festivals. So we took Doctor. Martens Presents, our music vehicle onto Instagram and we delivered 22 different gigs for our followers out there.

So we continued to be part of their community and to be part of their lives. The final part of C is around sustainability. One of the most sustainable things about Doctor. Martin's is the durability and the timeless design of our product. After you buy a pair of docks, if you look after them, they can stay with you for many years, which is incredibly important to us.

Back in 2019, we launched our first sustainability strategy as a company. And over the last year, we've invested in our team and our capabilities. Also, we brought in outside help to do a gap in materiality analysis to inform the targets that I'm talking to you about today. There were so many things that the team achieved in FY 2021, but I want to call out just three of them. The first is more than 98% of our leather is from metal rated tanneries around the world.

Now, the heel loops in our boots are from more than 50% recycled plastic. And finally, more than 90% of our Tier one suppliers were independently audited even in a pandemic. I think this demonstrates the focus that we are putting on sustainability as a business. Looking forward, we've set ourselves some clear targets as part of our custodian mindset. By 2028, '1 hundred percent of our packaging will be made from recycled and sustainably sourced material.

And by the same year, we will be sending zero waste to landfill across our entire value chain. By 02/1930, we'll have achieved net zero and we will have removed fossil based chemicals from all of our products. A much more lofty goal by 02/1940, '1 hundred percent of products sold will have a sustainable end of life option. And all of our footwear will have been made from sustainable materials without compromising the quality and the durability that people expect of Doctor. Martens.

We're really excited about this target as are our organization. And in our annual report and sustainability section, you'll be able to read a lot more about what we're doing in this area. So this brings me finally to S, the opportunity for the Doctor. Martens across our seven most important markets. They are North America, The UK, France, Germany, Italy and in Asia Pacific, Japan and China.

We have very good awareness across most of these markets, but we still have an opportunity to improve awareness through our DTC strategy and through our marketing efforts. Probably the most interesting thing here for me though is when you look at our per capita consumption. So if you look at The UK, the number is 31 per thousand. If you look at the European markets and Japan, the number is considerably lower. If you then look at North America, which is actually our biggest market today, it's just less than a third of The UK.

So that just shows if we can get our other tariff raise even close to the penetration of The United Kingdom, there is so much growth for the Doctor. Martens brand. Let me show you that a different way. So this was a piece of work that we did with a strategic consultancy. And what they did was to construct a look alike model.

And what that means is they took people who are already buying Doctor. Martens and they found consumers with very similar attitudinal characteristics. Then they quantified the number of those consumers and showed us what the headroom would be. So if you look at the bar chart, in The UK, that would say that there's a 3x opportunity for Doctor. Martens.

In North America, there's nearly an 8x opportunity. And in Western Europe and Japan, there's above a 10x opportunity in every country. So lots of opportunity for growth.

Speaker 2

And as we've said previously,

Speaker 1

the short to medium term opportunity for Doctor. Martens is that there is a lot of growth in the Western world and that's really important to understand. Alongside of that, you've obviously got that incredible number of an 82x number in China. We believe that there is incredible opportunity for Doctor. Martens in China over the medium term.

But as we said previously and we've reiterated today, this is about building the foundations to take that opportunity in the right way. So it was a very eventful year for everyone, not just for Doctor. Martens, but our long term brand custodian mindset has delivered strong results. The business, as John has told you, has been incredibly resilient through COVID-nineteen. We delivered at the top end of IPO guidance.

We did exactly what we said we were going to do. We've got a tried and tested strategy in docs. It's working for us around the world and we will continue to deploy it. We will focus this organization on looking after our planet for the future and we feel very confident in the year ahead and beyond. And as a consequence of that, we are reiterating our guidance for the future.

Thanks so much for listening to myself and John today, and we hope that you'll join us at 09:30 for our live Q and A when we'll be very happy to take any questions that you have about our last year's performance. Thank you so much for your interest in So at this point, I'm going to hand over to the moderator and John and I will take any questions that people have. Thank

Speaker 3

We will now take our first question from Carina Schutte from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi there. Thank you very much and congratulations on the results this morning. I have two questions if I may. The first one is just about current trading. I think you mentioned it's in line with your expectations.

Can you give us a little bit more color by geography potentially, particularly in The U. S, where we've had several luxury peers sort of demonstrate strength there? And secondly, if you could just a little bit more color on the distributor market opportunity. You've obviously mentioned incredibly strong growth in Germany plus 56% year on year last year. If you could give any more color around other distributor markets, potential pipeline or timeline for those that are taking in health this year, that would be super helpful.

Thank you.

Speaker 5

Great.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much, Crewe. And I'll take the I'll take them inverse. We'll take the distributor market question first. So think as John said in our video this morning, we've had extremely strong performance in Germany implementing our DOC strategy. In the year that's just gone, we also laid the groundwork for taking back the Italian market and also the Spanish market.

We've put teams in place in Milano and in Barcelona. We've put in place the infrastructure to do that. And in fact, we actually took the markets back this month. So what we envisage that we'll see is the implementation of the dock strategy in those markets in the year ahead. Do you want to add something?

Speaker 2

Only that I think just to reinforce the distributor conversion is not just a one year step up in terms of taking in market margins, it's a multi year plan. And it's all about actually implementing the DOC strategy over a long period of time, focusing on the higher brand enhancing wholesale accounts that we control, driving improved product mix, opening stores to support e commerce. It's not just a one hit wonder. That said, the first full year of Germany is exceptionally encouraging and we look forward to converting Italy and Spain in the coming year.

Speaker 1

And in terms of your question on current trading, we're not really giving any detail today on current trading. We feel we've only had April and May to be realistic and there are two very small months in the overall scheme of things for the year. What we can say though is that we're encouraged by the start of the year. It's absolutely in line with our expectations. As we look across the year ahead, we feel confident that we'll continue to see strong e commerce growth.

And clearly as stores open up, we'll get the benefit of lapping closures from last year. So we feel pretty confident in the year ahead.

Speaker 2

And just to build you, what you'll get Is that our AGM, which is towards the July trading and a bit more color around trading at that date.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Our next question comes from Edward O'Keefe from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yes. That's Goldman. Thanks, Morgan Stanley. Thank you. Hi, guys.

Just three questions for me. The first one is on EBITDA margin for this year. So you're guiding for sales to be growing high teens in fiscal 'twenty two. Assuming that you would deliver what is expected today by consensus, which I think is EBITDA of around $252,000,000 that would imply that your EBITDA margin would contract by about 50 basis points more or less to around 28.5. So I know you flagged some headwinds that John in the release, but shouldn't these headwinds be compensated by operating leverage?

And also, you're going to have a benefit of the channel mix effect in fiscal 'twenty two. So that's question number one. So it's a bit of a long one. Question number two is on brand desirability. Can you please and I know it's a difficult question to answer, but can you please provide some update on how you see your brand desirability today?

And then I guess more specifically regarding distribution, so how selective that you remain with the wholesale account and to what extent are these accounts asking for more products or not? And then maybe lastly, China. I know it's not very big in the grand scheme of things, but it has always been perceived as kind of a free option for you. So you delivered a 46% increase in fiscal 'twenty one. Now it's coming after a two fifty basis points sorry, two fifty percent increase last year.

I know obviously the basis is getting much more difficult, but you've made some changes, I believe, in terms of your Tmall partner after changing your franchisee two years ago. You're beefing up the management team. How optimistic are you that you have the building blocks in place now and you could deliver strong growth? Thank you.

Speaker 2

If I take the first one and then Kenny will then pick up questions two and three. Your EBITDA margin question, you're right. Average consensus for FY 2022 is million. FY 2021 EBITDA margin was stronger than originally anticipated, which because EBITDA came in about million, million ahead of consensus. That was all timing as we've explained partly due to faster than anticipated delivery of our supply chain savings.

The next question that would follow that one up would be are you therefore increasing your supply chain savings target? The answer would be we are however what we have seen from spring summer twenty twenty two season is higher increased costs than we had anticipated. So the higher savings will be needed to broadly offset those increased costs that are coming. In addition, we deferred or deferred OpEx around million from the fourth quarter into the first half mainly in EMEA region because the stores were closed with stronger social distancing restrictions and closures than we anticipated. So some OpEx just dropped in our lap.

So we've got some cost headwinds that hit us in FY 2022. The final cost headwind through FY 2022 is the annualization of PLC running costs and also LTIP costs of around million that will hit the first half. So whilst at time of IPO, we are still confident, we remain confident we're on a journey to a 30% margin. We might have seen a steady growth trend like that. We're still in the steady growth trend, but this year into next year is obviously being much, much shallow because we're starting from a higher point.

Speaker 6

Thanks, Sean.

Speaker 1

Your second question, Edward, was around brand desirability with a subset question around how selective we're going to be around wholesale accounts. I think in terms of brand desirability, clearly the first thing to say is we grew peers from 11,100,000 pairs to 12,700,000 pairs in a pandemic, which I think strongly demonstrates the demand that is out there for the Doctor. Martens brand. In terms of our brand equity studies where we clearly track and measure ourselves against growing the brand, we continue to have the number one net promoter score for footwear in all of our top seven markets that we focus on. So we feel very confident in the long term desirability of the Doctor.

Martens brand. In terms of our strategy for wholesale, we will continue to do what we've been doing over the last few years, which is we will work with fewer people, but we will work with the right people. We will be focusing on building strategic partnerships with those accounts so that we can present the Doctor. Martens brand with the best possible product assortment in the right way. And clearly, as we've mentioned before, we will continue also to focus on our AMP accounts, which are at the top part of the distribution pyramid.

The sports industry calls them energy accounts, where we're focused on positioning our brand in the right distribution. In terms of your the inventory part

Speaker 5

of your

Speaker 1

question, we track the inventory position of our top 20 wholesale accounts in both of our biggest regions in Americas and in EMEA and inventories are in really good shape. To your China question, we continue to believe that China is a phenomenal medium term opportunity for the Doctor. Martens brand. In the short term, we see more growth in the Western world just as the numbers that we've delivered this year. The work is still ongoing in terms of building the capability to fully implement the DOC strategy in the Chinese market.

So we are continuing to upgrade the caliber of our people there. We're continuing to add people in our Shanghai office and we're continuing to build the infrastructure to grow in the Chinese market. But the long term opportunity or the medium term opportunity for China, we still feel is exceptionally strong for Doctor. Martens.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Our next question comes from Dorianna Russo from HSBC. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Yes. Good morning, everyone. I've got a few questions as well. First of all, I'd like to come back to China. China is probably I mean, it is the biggest opportunity for you longer term.

Can you give us a little bit more color in terms of what have you done, if anything, in terms of e commerce and local investments? Maybe you can share with us what was the difference I mean, what was the performance of the e commerce channel, which is your direct channel there? Secondly, I would also like to ask about e commerce in The U. S, if there was any difference from the average that you've reported in terms of sales and anything specific that you might want to share with us versus your strategy, which is normally e commerce performing better around shops as that's still been the case in The U. S.

And my final question is your marketing expenditure. You have a declared target to improve A and B by 50 bps every year. What was the final investment for FY 'twenty one? And have you changed the target long term?

Speaker 1

Thank you. Okay. We'll start on question one, which is the China opportunity. And as you said in your question, it's a big medium term opportunity for the Doctor. Martens brand.

I would also stress though that one of the things that is different about this business relative to other big players in the market is the size of the opportunity that we still have in EMEA and Americas. And I think it's important to take that in context of our overall results. Your question was specifically around what are we doing in ecom in China. Right now, the business is trading with our own Doctor. Martin site on Tmall.

The business continues to grow strongly. And as one of the previous questions talked to, we've just changed our TP partner in China because we believed it was time to upgrade the partner and we've also strengthened the digital team in Shanghai. So we feel confident that we're putting in steps to continue to grow the e commerce business there. Do you want to add anything?

Speaker 2

Only that also in China, we've also got the importance of stores. Now these stores are mono branded franchise stores with a distribution partner. And in the year we opened up a net 35 stores to trade from 85 stores in the largest cities. So it's the same dock strategy stores supporting e commerce to showcase the brand and the product.

Speaker 1

And then in terms of your second question which is around USA e commerce. Go ahead.

Speaker 8

Sorry, I

Speaker 6

was just going to check whether you could share with us the performance of the e commerce in China specifically.

Speaker 1

No, we're not giving out information on specific markets by channel. In terms of your second question, which kind of talked to that, which was USA e comm, I think what I'd say is the overall strength of e commerce globally plus 73%. North America was up there. We had an extremely strong e commerce performance. To your question around the correlation between stores and ecom, that continues to be strong.

So I think in the video, I gave a European example where I talked about the fact that opening a store in Rome moved Rome to our number one e comm city. What we're seeing in North America as we open stores is that same strong correlation. So towards the end of the last financial year, we started to open stores in Texas, which is obviously the second biggest state in The United States. And what we've seen as a consequence of opening those stores in cities like Houston or Dallas is that we are seeing an increase in e commerce sales in those cities. So the strategy of digital first with a clear stores presence in key global cities around the world is working for us.

And where we open stores, it just boosts our e commerce business. Anything you want to add on The U. S?

Speaker 2

No. Ecom was exceptionally strong everywhere. On the marketing spend comment, you're right. We guided that we're planning to increase market spend by around 50 bps a year. I think we said through an IPO a target of around 7% of revenue in the medium term.

Last year, we did increase marketing spend by 50 bps. Through the year, digital was maintained all year. We didn't cut any digital spend even through the depth of COVID. We did cut non digital e comm spend and we caught up in the second half in terms of investment. But the full year we increased by 50 basis points.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Our next question comes from Biral Dedania from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Yes. Hi, morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I have two on gross margin and one on the customer demographic. So on the gross margin, you guys are flagging some inflationary cost pressures, which is understandable for the coming year.

But my understanding would be that the dollar hedge rates should be more than able to offset some of those. So could you give us a sort of bit more color as to where those cost pressures are coming from in terms of raw materials, FX and what your hedge rates on the pound dollar look like for springtime of twenty twenty one because I would have assumed that you're sourcing with a more favorable hedge rate would more than offset some of those inflationary cost pressures and freights are relatively small proportion of COGS. Secondly, on the presentation that you've got on your website, coming back to supply chain efficiencies, you guys are flagging that you've reached your 5% of sales target in the year 2021. You show $40,000,000 of gross savings for 'twenty one, which is a net change of $23,000,000 versus the prior year. But in the previous slide, which is the gross margin bridge, you're only recognizing $8,000,000 of that efficiency.

So the question really is where does the remaining $15,000,000 disappear to? A little bit more understanding around where that's gone would be helpful for modeling purposes. And then finally, just on the customer profile, with e commerce being the fastest growing channel, I just wanted to understand whether you've seen any change in your customer makeup. I think at the time of the IPO, the commentary was around 50% returning versus 50% new customers in terms of traffic. Have you seen any changes to your key customer KPIs in the year to 2021?

Thank you.

Speaker 1

So I think John will take the detailed financial questions around gross margin and supply chain efficiencies. I mean, just to give you an example on the raw material costs going up that we're seeing, we're seeing the costs of plastic going up effectively, which everyone is seeing. We're seeing the cost of metals going up, for example, for the eyelets of the product. So most of our raw material costs are rising. And as John said earlier, that will impact spring summer twenty twenty two.

And we know that already at this point. At this point, I will shut up and hand over to Jean on the gross margin.

Speaker 2

In terms of COGS, all of our cost of goods are bought and paid for in U. S. Dollars because all the factories are in Asia. We pay for everything in U. S.

Dollars. So it's not just and you got dollar purchases from The U. S. There's no hedge there. Yes, you're right.

We purchased the dollars from The U. K. In sterling, but The U. K. Is a small part of our total mix.

We buy for euros, dollars for Europe and then yen, Hong Kong dollar etcetera in other markets. So it's not a straight we buy in sterling hedge sterling versus dollar rate. We do hedge sterling versus dollars. That's only a small part of the overall. So we have got dollar price increases in dollar sourced product that we pay in dollars from multi currencies and which is why the costs are real costs and they are going up.

In terms of the efficiencies, the difference between the two pages is the million, the 5% that is gross savings which will have a volume benefit. The incremental page on the gross margin that is the incremental savings achieved in the year not volume related. Going forwards, what we're saying is the any incremental savings will be needed to fund incremental cost inflation over and above our underlying inflation assumption.

Speaker 1

And then your final question was around customer profile and you remembered correctly what we said at IPO, which is broadly online. We were 50% recruiting new consumers and 50% retaining existing consumers who came back to buy more product. And what we did see in the first three months of the pandemic is we did see an increase in new consumers. And I think we also mentioned at IPO that we currently don't have the capability to have a single view of customer and track that customer in store and online. So whether they were truly new to Doctor.

Martens or not is impossible for me to tell or to give you a straight answer on. And what we see now once again is that basically things are stabilizing back to the normal level. So our strategy remains the same. We will continue to recruit new consumers into the Doctor. Martens brand globally and we will continue to encourage consumers to buy their second payer or their third payer.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks, Kenny. John, could I just come back to your comment on the volume versus non volume related benefit? I'm sorry, but I don't fully understand that. Could you perhaps just explain to us in a slightly different way what a volume benefit versus a non volume benefit is?

Speaker 2

Okay. So a volume benefit would be, so for example, if we got some savings of say £5 in FY 2020 per pair, sell more pairs, that £5 could become £10 it could become £20 through just selling more pairs of boots and shoes. Whereas if we had a saving on a pair of £5 in FY 2020, but in the following year, we got an incremental one pound of saving to six pounds that incremental one pound you'd see on the gross margin bridge, but the volume would be the full six pounds itself. So one's got multiplied by pairs, the other one's the incremental achieved in the year.

Speaker 8

Got it. Okay. So the volume benefit only comes through once?

Speaker 2

The volume benefit will be there. The incremental only comes through once and it sticks.

Speaker 8

All right. Yes. Okay. Perfect. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

And we have a follow-up question from Dorianna Russo from HSBC. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Yes, it's me again. A couple of questions, if I may. You mentioned that Sandoz did quite well in the last year. I was wondering if you can comment more in terms of the performance of the different lines versus the average of growth of 15% that was delivered? In particular, if you can show us the number for Fusion versus the other line?

And also a follow-up question on China. Have you tracked have you been able to track brand awareness if there was any change versus the 63%, I think, that was reported for previous year? And if so, was that related? Was it related? Where was it coming from?

And my last one, very last one, apologies for that, is on CapEx. There was a signal of higher CapEx coming in next year. Can you give us a sense of where would you like do you plan to invest across geographies or channel or any particular projects that you have in the pipeline? Thank you.

Speaker 1

I can take the first question, which is around product mix. So we're not giving out by category the overall growth rates. You referenced the strong growth in sandals, which I think was 54%. Sandals is obviously a subset of fusion. What I can tell you is that originals and fusion are by far and away the two biggest categories.

You know that they're circa 80% of revenue and they grew broadly in line with the overall company average. So that's what we're seeing. In terms of your question around awareness in China, since the IPO, we haven't had an update to our brand study. So there is no update in terms of awareness in the Chinese market that I can give you today because we have no more current stats than we had at the time of IPO. And I'll let John take the CapEx question.

Speaker 2

On CapEx, you're right. Guidance is 3% to 3.5%. I did say on my cash flow slide that I think FY '20 '20 '2 will be at the top end of that. That's mainly catch up through last financial year. I think CapEx was 2.3%, two point four % of revenue, so a little bit lower, mainly deferred IT projects.

The largest being the rollout and implementation of Microsoft Dynamics D365 in Asia Pacific region, which we paused Hong Kong, Japan Hong Kong, Japan, China and South Korea. That's the biggest timing issue. Otherwise, it's as previously, it's the CapEx for 20 to 25 stores and then numerous other smaller projects. That's the biggest timing one.

Speaker 6

Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 3

And we'll take now the next question from Richard Taylor from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Yes, good morning. It's just a question really on the trends you're seeing in store reopening since some of the restrictions have been listed lifted. I realize a lot of that will have been since the year end. And I know you've not given us specific current trading updates, but just sort of within that, can you give us some color on behavior on retail versus online as restrictions as this did? And clearly, you're saying in line overall, but is there anything that surprised you in behavior?

Are people still preferring to order online? Is that stuck more than you think? Or has there been quite a strong reopening within retail? Thanks.

Speaker 1

Yes. I mean, to your question, Richard, we're not going to give any specific guidance around channel performance yet. It's very early in the year. What I would say is that we're really encouraged by what we're seeing. In terms of your question around will e comm stick, we believe that yes, it will continue to grow from the 30% mix that John talked about earlier.

We don't expect that the growth will be as high as the 73% that we've seen this year obviously as stores open up given we had big periods last year when the shops weren't open in many countries around the world. In this first quarter, which we'll talk about at AGM, obviously, we're up against considerable store closures, so the numbers will look quite large. I think what we're seeing is it's our colleagues are telling us it's great to be back in the stores. They're really excited about being back in the shops. We're seeing high conversions in stores probably like many other branded businesses right now because people who are out there shopping are out there on a mission to buy.

So we feel very encouraged both by the e commerce numbers and by the store numbers at this stage, but we'll update a little bit more when we get to our AGM.

Speaker 7

That's great. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

There are currently no further questions in the queue. Arvind, we have a follow-up question from Peral De Danie from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hi, thanks. Just a quick one, sorry to interject at the end. Could you just remind us or give us an update on your kind of views on profitability by channel? Obviously, highly disrupted year in 2021, but as stores reopen, should we expect any margin mix changes as the revenues shift in channel terms? Or put it a different way, have you been able to generate any incremental margin uplift in e commerce relative to where we were, say, six months ago?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Matt. I think the answer to that is it's exactly the same as when we went through the IPO, what we're seeing. So you think when we did the IPO, I talked to the profitability of fourteen sixty boot, D2C channels versus B2B channels. I just want a better description how a boot or a standard fourteen sixty boot is four times more profitable to us through a D2C channel through through a B2B channel. That metric hasn't changed.

We didn't give out and we're not going to give out profitability by channel. What we did say the most profitable channel is e commerce followed by wholesale followed by retail. That hasn't changed in terms of ordering. So in terms of our underlying economics and metrics going forwards, we don't envisage any material changes. I think one thing we did see through last year obviously with the stores being closed is the overall D2C mix reduced from 45% to 43%.

As we normalize through this year, we're confident we'll get back on our journey towards a 60% D2C mix in the medium term.

Speaker 3

There are currently no further questions in the queue.

Speaker 1

Great. Well, if there's no further questions, I just summarize by saying thank you very much for your time, your attention and the questions that we've received this morning. Clearly, it was an unprecedented year, but overall, our long term custodian mindset continues to position the brand in the right way. We believe that we've delivered a strong set of results, which is exactly what we said we were going to do and we feel very confident in the year ahead. So thanks for your questions.

If anyone has any follow-up questions, please direct those towards Bethany, our Head of Investor Relations. Thank you so much for your time. We really appreciate it.

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