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Earnings Call: Q1 2023

Apr 27, 2023

Operator

Hello, welcome to the Lancashire Holdings Limited Q1 2023 Earnings Call. Throughout the call, all participants will be in a listen only mode, and afterwards there will be a question and answer session. Please note, this call is being recorded. Today, I'm pleased to present Alex Maloney, Group CEO, Natalie Kershaw, Group CFO, and Paul Gregory, Group COO. I will now hand over to Alex Maloney. Please begin.

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

Okay, thank you, operator, and thanks for dialing in everyone. I'll just give a quick summary of our quarter's activities, and then Paul Gregory will give you a more detailed view of the underwriting opportunity. Natalie Kershaw will talk about finance, and then we'll go to questions. Our first quarter progress is in line with our long-term strategy of growing our business when the underwriting opportunity improves. As I told you at our last results update, our plan for 2023 is to continue to grow our premiums whilst continuing on our work to diversify our underwriting portfolio. I'm happy to confirm this is the case for the first quarter. Our top line growth in premiums is ahead of the blended RPI, therefore demonstrating the real growth in our business as the absolute underwriting margin improves across the portfolio.

By this, I mean rate change, netted off our increased reinsurance cross, so showing the true benefit of growth at this time in the cycle. Interestingly, if you look at the insurance segment, the growth is materially higher than this segment's RPI, which also demonstrates the additional growth in our in the insurance segment as we continue to see the benefit of the investments we've made over the last five years and see the continued opportunity in these classes of business. Our plan for our property cat and retro portfolios was to write a similar portfolio to that of 2022, but obviously enjoying the increased margins we are now seeing. By this, just to clarify, we plan to deploy a similar amount of capital to these classes, as we did in 22, as we're already a substantial writer of cat business.

For our casualty segment, we continue to build our portfolio after entering this class just over two years ago. I believe our entrance into casualty was perfectly timed, and I'm delighted that with the progress that the team has made so far. Therefore, I'm very happy with our underwriting activities and our portfolio continues to develop in line with the long-term strategy of our business. As we continue to diversify our writings, we continue to see the benefit of increased efficiency in our capital use. As you can see from our solvency ratio, we continue to be in a very strong capital position, which enables us to have maximum flexibility at an important time in the underwriting cycle. Capital is definitely constrained across the insurance industry at this moment in time. We don't see any immediate change to this balance.

I think our patient stewardship of capital is now rewarding us with the ability to deploy where we see the best underwriting opportunities. As we've always said, we are driven by the best expected return for the capital deployed first and foremost, and therefore fully aligned to our shareholders. Our investment return of 1.5% is welcome following the steep rise in interest rates that led to the unrealized losses we witnessed during 2022. Clearly, the first quarter has brought market volatility, so we are very pleased with our return during the quarter. Finally, we are very excited about the opportunities for Lancashire, and we have three main drivers to improve our returns this year. We have more earned premium coming through our investments in our underwriting portfolios.

We have more underwriting margin net of reinsurance costs across our portfolio, and we have the increased investment income as we see the benefit from the increase in yields quickly. With that, I'll now hand over to Paul.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

Thank you, Alex. As Alex has just highlighted, it's been another quarter of strong growth for the business in a favorable rating environment. Every product line across the business has grown premium levels year-on-year. As can be seen from an overall RPI of 117%, we are seeing strong rate momentum, and we continue along our objective to grow and diversify the business. Over the next few slides, I'll add a little bit more color to market conditions in each of our segments. The RPI within our reinsurance segment was 124% in Q1. This segment contains our casualty, specialty, and property reinsurance lines, each of which has its own dynamic and therefore the RPIs per line are distinctly different. At the lower end of the RPI range is casualty and financial lines.

These are stable, albeit at very healthy rating levels following the recent years of market hardening. This was only our second full first of January renewal season for the class, which continues to get up to scale with impressive levels of growth. We've been very successful in building out core relationships with clients, where we already sell other products such as catastrophe risk. Towards the middle end of the RPI range is our specialty reinsurance offering. As a reminder, this covers products such as energy, aviation, marine, political violence, for example. In an improving market, we continue to grow this portfolio, which is seeing risk adjusted rate change in the region of +25%. Last quarter, we discussed the hard market conditions for catastrophe exposed products such as property cat and retro.

During Q1, our risk adjusted rate change for property cat was approximately +50%, and for retro, slightly better than this. We've grown premiums in these subclasses, however, not to the extent of these rate changes. To remind people, this is for two reasons. Firstly, and as highlighted last quarter, we purchased less retro protection, and we now manage our inwards portfolio to deliver a broadly similar net cat footprint at improved margins. Secondly, the risk adjusted rate change does not all come via pure premium. Some of this is via increases in cedent attachment points. In the retro book, for example, almost all of our risk adjusted rate change was as a result of increased level. More broadly, the real positive both for us and the market is that we've seen discipline remain in catastrophe lines.

There appears to be no significant new capacity coming in and the rating environment we saw at 1/1 and through Q1 is being sustained. The rating environment for insurance lines also continues to be positive and has allowed us to continue to grow and diversify. We've been able to grow this segment significantly ahead of rate. Every class of business is in positive rating territory with an overall RPI of 109% for the segment. Subclasses such as property insurance, power, energy and marine liability are still seeing strong double-digit rate increases. There are ample opportunities to grow, particularly in the property insurance classes, with inflation continuing to drive demand. Last quarter, we confirmed we were comfortable with top line premiums for this year in line with consensus, which is now at approximately $1.9 billion. We remain comfortable with this guidance.

In summary, it's been a very pleasing Q1. Growth has been strong and market conditions are favorable. I'll now hand over to Natalie.

Natalie Kershaw
Group CFO, Lancashire Holdings

Thanks, Paul. Hello, everyone. It's been a relatively straightforward quarter from a financial perspective. IFRS 17 was adopted at the beginning of the year, and we will issue full financial statements on this basis at the half year. Our insurance revenue on an IFRS 17 basis has increased by 31.6%, which is ahead of the increase in gross premiums written. IFRS 17 insurance revenue generally approximates to gross earned premium net of commissions. The significant premium growth over the last couple of years is now benefiting our own premium and insurance revenue. As noted on slide 10, there have been a number of catastrophe events in the quarter, as well as a few risk losses in our energy book.

None of these are individually material enough to warrant disclosure and are well within our expectations for losses of this nature, given the lines of business that we write. Our underlying performance remains in line with previous guidance given. The investment portfolio returned 1.5% during the quarter, largely due to falling interest rates. We are also starting to see the benefit of our short duration and the ability to reinvest the portfolio relatively quickly. Our book yield is now 3.3% compared to 1.5% at Q1 2022. The investment portfolio remains relatively conservative with an overall credit rating of AA-. We do not intend any material changes to our investment strategy in the medium term and will keep the overall portfolio duration short.

Our capital position is in line with guidance at our February call, with the BSCR ratio at 31st December 2022 standing at 308%. This would reduce to approximately 263% following a 1 in 100 year Gulf of Mexico wind event. As a reminder, the increase in our solvency ratio during 2022 was due to changes in our inwards business mix and outwards reinsurance, as well as modeling enhancements in the second half of 2022. We have detailed the forward guidance given at the last earnings call on slide 11, with a range of potential outcomes dependent on different levels of catastrophe and large risk losses. We expect the underlying combined ratio for 2023 on an IFRS 4 basis, excluding reserve releases and catastrophe and large risk losses to be in the region of 74%-79%.

We also expect reserve releases for the year to be in the range of $100 million-$110 million. We have used 8% for reserve releases in the table shown purely for illustrative purposes to demonstrate the potential impact on the combined ratio. Although IFRS 17 changes the presentation of various elements of the insurance result and can impact the timing of profit recognition, largely due to discounting, there is no impact to the ultimate profitability of the business that we write. The waterfall chart shows how the various components of the combined ratio move on an IFRS 17 basis. We will update our guidance to an IFRS 17 basis with the publication of IFRS 17 interim financial statements in August. We will arrange an analyst call in September to run through the IFRS 17 financial statements released at Q2 in more detail.

With that, I'll now hand back to Alex to conclude.

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

Thanks, Natalie. Just to summarize, you know, we have strong momentum across all of our business, opportunity in every product line that we write. We have more than adequate capital to fund our growth plan for this year, very good, strong position to be in. I think, you know, we're just totally in line with our long-term strategy. You know, we're building a better balanced business, with continued improvement across the whole portfolio, which will enable us to improve our returns. Lastly, I'd like to thank my colleagues for their continued hard work and our shareholders for their support. We're ready to go to questions now, operator.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you do wish to ask an audio question, please press star one one on your telephone keypad.

Once again, please press star one one to register for a question. There will be a brief pause while questions are being registered. The first question comes from the line of Andrew Ritchie from Autonomous. Please go ahead.

Andrew Ritchie
Partner Insurance Analyst, Autonomous Research

Cool. Hi there. Thanks for taking my questions. Could you just remind us on the trajectory of net vs gross? I guess we're talking IFRS 4 to keep it simple for now. You expect over the year... I lost track of what... I think you gave some indications at the time of the full year. Just, should it be a similar momentum, or are you retaining more business? Just give us some flavor on net vs gross. The second question on the property cat. I appreciate attachment points have gone up. Have you also moved up, typically in the layers you're participating in? I appreciate the overall ag limit might be the same, but is the shape of your exposure slightly different?

The final question, what's your outlook for specialty insurance pricing over the rest of the year? Some of those classes are quite reinsurance dependent. Will they tighten even more as the year goes on? Thanks.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

Hi, Andrew. It's Paul. I think I'll probably take all of those. On the net v gross, I think I said this on the last quarter, but just as an update. Obviously, as the portfolio grows more lines of business within those lines, we write more premium there. You know, we have to buy more reinsurance. In absolute dollar terms, our reinsurance spend increases. In percentage terms, in terms of overall premium written, it will continue to reduce, which is a similar trend you've seen over the last few years. On the shape of property cat portfolio, I think, look, in general, the market itself has moved up level. A lot of the lower attaching layers, cedents are now being asked to retain more risk at the lower end.

If you think about our portfolio and how our property cat portfolio is written, we underwrite it out of our Lloyd's platform and out of our Bermuda platform. Where we see the most change is in our Lloyd's platform, which tends to be lower down program. We are, one, naturally benefiting from the fact that the market itself is moving up. The first layer, you know, when it used to... I'm just picking numbers. It used to attach at 100, now it attaches at 200. You automatically benefit from that. Then we're doing some more proactive work within that portfolio to also actively move up the program slightly.

When you look at our Bermuda portfolio, which has typically been more at the higher end of programs, there's less change in shape there. You are obviously seeing material change in pricing, as I alluded to in my script. On the specialty insurance side, to be honest, the dynamics are very different depending upon the classes of business. You are 100% right. A lot of those lines are dependent upon, you know, reinsurance protections. As again, as I mentioned in my script, you know, specialty reinsurance, again, it differs on the class of business. In all classes of specialty reinsurance, there was reasonable rate momentum and structural change at the 1st of January. That is feeding into specialty insurance. We are seeing continued rate momentum.

You know, in lines such as property insurance, they'd be at the upper end. Some of that's driven by, of course, there's cat exposure within property insurance lines. Things like energy and marine liability, power, downstream energy, they're all still seeing, you know, reasonable rate momentum. Some of that is obviously coming from that impact of changes in reinsurance structure. There are some lines that are slowing. Things like cargo, for example, is still moving forward, but at the lower end of rate increases. To be honest, that's in its seventh year of rate momentum. I don't think that's unsurprising. The areas that are probably, I would say, a little underwhelming, but still moving forward, things like upstream energy, there's just so much capacity in that market.

We're just holding our nerve and sticking with our core clients and just kind of taking the small amount of rate we're getting. To be honest, we probably expected a little bit more movement in terror and political violence given the changes at one one on reinsurance. We saw positive movement in Q1, probably not as much as we expected, but what we have seen is that market now starting to ramp up in terms of rate rises. I think that's definitely the impact of changes in reinsurance structure coming through. Sorry, I've covered quite a lot there, so I'll stop.

Andrew Ritchie
Partner Insurance Analyst, Autonomous Research

That's great. Yep, that's very detailed. Thank you.

Operator

One moment, please, for the next question. The next question comes from the line of Kamran Hossain from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Kamran Hossain
Executive Director and Insurance analyst, JPMorgan

Hi. Afternoon, everyone. First question is just around, I guess, the outlook for growth. Clearly Q1 is very important, particularly for reinsurance. How are you thinking about the rest of the year? You know, are you still very... It sounds like you're excited, but I'm interested in kind of how things went in at April renewals and kind of your view on the mid-year. The second question is just on the capital ratio, which is remarkably high, you know, even if you take into account, you know, the one in 100 Gulf of Mexico PML. How are you thinking about managing the ratio? You know, if you get to the end of this year and losses have been reasonable, you know, rate might be going up a little bit.

What are your thoughts about what you might do with that surplus? Thank you.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

Hi, Kamran . I'll take the first one on outlook for growth. I think as you can hear from our tones and scripts, we're... We're positive about the market we're in. Market conditions are really favorable in most of our lines of business. There's positive rate change across all lines of business. We're really comfortable with where we are. I think if you think about the balance of the year and, you know, milestones in terms of what could drive growth, obviously things like aviation, we're not into the kind of nuts and bolts of those renewals until we get to the end of the year. We have a reasonable footprint in aviation, as you know.

Obviously, you know, depending on what market conditions are like, that could move growth one way or the other. We're overall, you know, we're pretty confident that we'll be able to grow our aviation portfolio at the end of the year. In the middle of the year, you have things like Florida, for example. I'm not even gonna begin to predict what Florida's gonna do. We don't usually know even a week before renewal.

Kamran Hossain
Executive Director and Insurance analyst, JPMorgan

Yeah.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

you know, that's another moving part. In general, we're really happy with where the rate momentum is. Of course, pretty much all of our lines. On the cat reinsurance portfolio, as I mentioned, you know, there doesn't appear to be swathes of new capacity coming in, which is meaning the market's remaining disciplined, and we're still seeing really strong rate movement there. Property D&F, as I alluded to in the last question, that's probably ahead of where we expected it to be, and there's lots of opportunity there. Look, I think, as I said in my script, I think consensus is now about $1.9 billion thereabout. We're comfortable with that. Yeah, we're in... We're pretty pleased.

Kamran Hossain
Executive Director and Insurance analyst, JPMorgan

Cool.

Natalie Kershaw
Group CFO, Lancashire Holdings

Hi, Kamran . It's Natalie. On the capital point, as Alex said, we're really pleased with our capital position at the moment. We've obviously got a very healthy capital ratio, and that's great given the market that we're seeing. There's no change at all to our capital strategy. What we'll look at when we get to the end of the year is what we can deploy for underwriting next year, and then we'll make decisions from there.

Kamran Hossain
Executive Director and Insurance analyst, JPMorgan

Great. Thank you.

Operator

One moment, please, for the next question. The next question comes from the line of Freya Kong from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Freya Kong
Director of Equity Research, Bank of America

Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. Could you give us some more detail on the changes you've made in the property cat book? Reinsurance premiums are up 19%, and rates are up 24%. Given that most of the new business growth was in casualty, that would imply some growth exposure reductions in property cat. Was this more because of your move up in the layers or more management of the portfolios? Secondly, on growth in property insurance, how should we think about the capital intensity of this line, and how much of your surplus would you expect to deploy into exposure growth there, given the rates are very strong? Last question, if I may.

What sort of strength or upside surprise would you need to see in renewal rates to move or upgrade your underlying combined ratio guidance of 74%-79%? Thanks.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

Hi, Freya. I'll take the first question on property cat. I'll be honest, I'll just pretty much repeat what I said in my script. Probably part of the answer I gave to Andrew on the first set of questions. I think, look, we were quite clear, I think, on the last call that we had bought less retro protection at the 1st of January. That's obviously when we buy all our pretty much all of our retro protection. The aim was to balance our inwards writings to end up, you know, broadly similar net cat portfolio. Obviously that will mean there are, on the growth side, there will be some accounts that will come off because we've bought less retro to protect.

The reason we're doing that is we think that gives us a better underwriting margin overall, which is ultimately all we focus on. Secondly, as you, as you alluded to, you know, not all the RPI in property cat and retro comes through pure premium. It's also recognized in seasons taking increased levels. You don't always track through. I think in Q1 we're pretty much bang in line with where we expected to be in terms of both of those portfolios. Obviously we have a number of renewals through Q2, which started with the Japanese renewals at 1/4, which were very orderly as expected, we'll work our way through to Florida at 1/6, 1/7. Sorry, could you repeat your second question because I missed it?

Freya Kong
Director of Equity Research, Bank of America

on property insurance and how much the growth opportunity there, how much you're looking to deploy of your surplus, and how capital intensive is this line insurance?

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

Yeah. Property insurance, and what I mean by that is our property D&F portfolio. You're right. You know, that's the one area of the insurance portfolio that is more capital intensive than any of the others 'cause it generally includes catastrophe risk. As you know, that drives our capital requirements. Not all of it does, by the way. There are elements of our property insurance portfolio that are non-cat. We'll definitely be looking to grow that part of our portfolio. Two reasons. One, in our traditional lines, which is the pure property D&F book. Market conditions are really strong. We're seeing really good risk-adjusted rate change. We're seeing lots of opportunity come to London. We underwrite that both from our syndicate and our company platform, and we just see lots of good opportunity for growth there.

We've also added under that banner, of course, an Australian D&F offering last year and a property construction offering last year. They both continue to mature. Well, when we talk about our net cat footprint, people, I think, also always just assume it's property cat and retro. It is, and it's also our property insurance portfolio. We try and balance everything off. Our comment on having broadly the same net cat footprint remains valid. I think that's probably the last question.

Natalie Kershaw
Group CFO, Lancashire Holdings

Yeah. Hi, Freya. On the guidance question, we're only a quarter into the year, so we're not gonna look to change guidance. We will update the guidance in Q2 to an IFRS 17 basis, but I still wouldn't expect any change to the underlying economics, 'cause obviously we factored in some rate change at the beginning of the year when we were looking at guidance. If you think about it, the underlying ratios, as we said last quarter, are kind of quite heavily impacted by casualty, and we're not seeing rate rises, big rate rises in casualty. We don't expect to change the guidance this year.

Freya Kong
Director of Equity Research, Bank of America

Okay, thanks. That's really helpful.

Operator

One moment, please, for the next question. The next question comes from the line of Ashik Musaddi from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Ashik Musaddi
Head of European Insurance Research, Morgan Stanley

Thank you and good afternoon. This is Ashik here. Just a couple of questions. First of all, I mean, would it be possible to get some early thoughts on April renewals? What has happened? How the renewal has gone? I mean, is the price increases more or less similar to what we saw in first quarter? Any changes, any deviation from that in any particular line of business, et cetera, would be helpful to know. That's the first one. Secondly is, I guess, you mentioned just in the previous question about casualty, that the prices are still a bit softer. Can you just elaborate a bit more on where prices are going?

I mean, I mean, D&F is clearly, it's very public that the prices continue to fall, even in first quarter this year. Any other particular line of businesses within casualty where things are still not moving in the right direction? Are we going into a territory where it's not that profitable to write it anymore? Or are we still in a very profitable zone? Any color on casualty, both primary and reinsurance would be helpful. Thank you.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

Okay. Hi, Ashik. I'll probably take both of those again. On 1/4, I think we'll start with property cat. Still seeing strong rate momentum. The big renewal at 1/4 is obviously Japan. I think our, you know, our expectation on Japan was if you look at the range of rate rises you were gonna see across your property cat portfolio, Japan was likely to be at the lower end of that, albeit still strong. That was exactly the case. From our perspective, it's probably slightly better than expected, and from the client's perspective, probably worse than they expected. As always with Japan, it was a very orderly renewal. You saw less demand come through in things in Japan just because inflationary pressures are less there. We're very happy with the result there.

In terms of the broad property cat market, what we saw in U.S. was very similar to what we saw through Q1, very happy with that. If you look at some of the insurance lines, as I alluded to in my script, things like property insurance, you know, seeing good rate momentum there ahead of what we anticipated, if you'd have asked us probably 6 months ago. Parts of the energy portfolio, like power downstream, energy live, still seeing good rate momentum. Things like upstream energy, as I alluded to in a previous answer, Still going up, but probably not as much as we would like. In general, just very much in line with Q1. Still happy with the rate momentum. Moving to your second question on casualty. I didn't say it was getting softer.

I said it was broadly stable. Look, it's probably worth just remembering how we write the casualty class. We write it primarily through quota share reinsurance. We get a very broad spread of the casualty portfolio. Yes, there are lines within that, such as D&F, as you mentioned, that are seeing some softening, albeit coming from quite material rate increases in previous years. The way we look at our portfolio is obviously we look at all the underlying rating that our cedents are getting, but then we also need to look at the commissions we pay our cedents, which effectively comes off our margin. Those terms and conditions for us, as a reinsurer, marginally improved during our Q1 renewals.

What you're effectively getting is, even if there's some elements of the underlying portfolio that are softening slightly, we're getting improved commission terms, even if it's relatively small. That's why our portfolio is broadly stable through Q1. We're, look, we're comfortable where our casualty book sits, where we think the margin is. Obviously, as you know, we're relatively new to the class. We've come in at a level where rates are pretty peaky. We're reserving them prudently, and we're really happy with how that book is progressing, which, to remind people, is very small compared to our peers.

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

It's okay. Thanks, thanks a lot.

Operator

One moment please for the next question. The next question comes from the line of Ivan Bokhmat from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Ivan Bokhmat
European Financials Equity Analyst, Barclays

Hi, good afternoon. Thank you very much. I've got a couple of questions. The first one would be on property cat markets. I think we're seeing, particularly on ILS placements, many deals sized up, coupons moving down within the ranges. It feels like there's probably, well, it's certainly a lot more orderly, if not, kind of signs of new capital coming in, as you've alluded to. I was just wondering whether you could talk a little bit about the trends you're seeing there and what should we expect, you know, towards year-end and maybe into 2024. The second one, I was just wondering if you could provide any update on the aviation claims related to Russia sanctions. Sorry, you may have been tired of that question already by now. Thanks.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

Okay, Ivan. On the property cat piece, I think you're alluding to cat bonds in the market, and there's been a lot of issuance over the past kind of three to six months. I think your observation is fair. Obviously, that's not the product we're selling. You know, we're selling a traditional rated paper product. I think it doesn't impact us directly. Obviously, there are clients that decide to buy that product that can potentially bring some demand out of the system. I think your comment on it being, you know, more orderly is very fair. I think what you've seen is the market now knows where it sits. Most people have their retro protection in place. They know what they need to charge in order to improve margins.

I think at 1/1, everyone's trying to renew their outwards reinsurance at the same time as writing their inwards, and it all was very late, so it is a little bit more chaotic. I think that has settled down. As I said in my script, there's no real significant new capacity coming in, certainly with the products that we're writing, and therefore that's why you're seeing the kind of rate momentum being maintained on the property cat side. Then on the second question, the answer is no.

Ivan Bokhmat
European Financials Equity Analyst, Barclays

No news. There's been a few lawsuits, I think. A few more lawsuits I should say, being put through. Just no color on that.

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

No, I think if you think about what we said at year-end, there is no change to that whole situation. Clearly it's a complex event. You know, just to remind everyone, we are one of the or few carriers that have, you know, set aside reserves for any possible outcome. We're very relaxed with our position and nothing's changed since year-end.

Ivan Bokhmat
European Financials Equity Analyst, Barclays

Thank you both.

Operator

One moment please for the next question. The next question comes from the line of Derad Google. Please go ahead.

Speaker 15

Afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. I've got three please, if that's okay. The first one is just your point around high attachment points for the primaries. To what extent you've seen the benefit of these from the Q1 cat events. Is there anything anecdotal that you can share? Second one is just on casualty. What are you seeing in terms of social inflation trends and also the frequency of claims following the reopening of courts? The third one, just going back to your strategy about diversifying outside cat. Given the skew in growth towards primary insurance and non-cat lines, does that free up some capacity to take on more cat without adding to more volatility at an overall level?

I guess another way of asking that last question is that, you know, when you think about your cat vs non-cat balance, what are the metrics that you look at? Thank you.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

Yeah. Okay. On, on your, on your first question around higher attachment points, I obviously can only answer that generically. I think obviously there has been some cat activity during Q1, in various parts of the world. I think if you look at some of the U.S. events like convective storm, for example, they are exactly the type of losses that moving attachment point will help insulate the broader market from more than you would have seen last year. That doesn't mean, of course, that you are, you know, completely immune from losses like that. It just means the impact of them are gonna be felt less because you're gonna get less of those losses than you would have had year-on-year. As I say, you're exactly on the right lines there.

sorry, can you repeat your question on casualty, please?

Speaker 15

Yeah, just in terms of your, what are you seeing in terms of social inflation trends, and also things like the frequency of claims following the reopening of courts, or rather the frequency of claims settlement following the reopening of courts? Thanks.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

Yeah. I mean, I think that's probably a better question to ask another carrier. The only reason I say that is 'cause we're obviously very new into the class. We only started writing in the first quarter of 2021. You know, in terms of uptick in our own activity, obviously not really seeing it 'cause we're kind of new into the class. On social inflation, you know, we've entered that class at a time when that's very much unknown, and therefore we can account for that in both our reserve and in our pricing. We're in a fortunate position, obviously, that we don't have a back book to worry about that. Clearly, inflation is a real live issue that we've all been talking about over the past couple of years.

As I said, we're quite fortunate in that we've entered that class at the time that that's very much a hot topic, which allows us to underwrite with that in mind.

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

I think on your last question, you know, as I said in my sort of statement, I think, you know, what we're trying to achieve here is, you know, a balanced portfolio, but also seeking the best opportunity. I think, as you said, if we end up writing more specialty, that allows us to write more casualty, more cat business without changing any portfolio mix. Even within, say, just the cat classes, you know, we're still small enough and still nimble enough to look at the advantages of, you know, is that capital deployed better in, you know, property D&F or general property, or is that property cat or is it retro?

I think all in all, you know, what we all have to remind ourselves, and I constantly have to do this, is we already write a substantial amount of cat business. You know, we're probably more levered to the cat opportunity certainly than any of our London peers. We already have a large cat book, and that's why it's pleasing to see, I mean, Sean's line is growing so much as well.

Speaker 15

Okay, fair enough. Thank you very much.

Operator

One moment please for the next question. The next question comes from the line of Andreas van Embden from Peel Hunt. Please go ahead.

Andreas van Embden
Insurance Research Analyst, Peel Hunt

Yes, thank you. Good afternoon. I've got three questions. First of all, could you maybe give an indication of what your blended outwards rate was? You know, your growth rate is up 17%. I just want to try and see what the spread is between your growth and your outwards rate on a blended basis, please. On the attritional combined ratio, you're guiding towards 74%-79% for the full year again. Just on your reinsurance book, could you perhaps give an indication whether your whole reinsurance book, including public casualty and specialty, is within that range or below or above? Finally, on your diversification strategy, Are you diversifying and growing with existing clients or are you adding new clients to your portfolio?

Is it just growing your renewal book or is this really adding new clients? Thank you.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

Okay. Andreas, I'll take questions one and three. On one, look, I can talk around it. We don't really ever talk about what our blended increase on our outwards cost is. I'm not going to give you that. What I can say is that our margin is improving. You know, we're moving forward. Obviously, you know, the rate increases on our outwards are very different across the products lines that we see. As I mentioned in a question earlier, whilst the absolute $ of reinsurance spend are going up, the % vs our inwards premiums will continue to go down. On your 3rd question around, you know, where are we growing? Is it existing clients? Is it new clients? It's a bit of both.

It depends on the, on the line of business. you know, if you take some of our more mature portfolios, it tends to be, you know, trying to grow with existing clients. Obviously, in our newer lines of business, It will be weighted towards new clients. you know, on core books of business, like upstream energy, you know, to be honest, we're just renewing our core book there. We just don't think it's time to broaden our shoulders. If you look at casualty, for example, we've been very deliberate in targeting some clients that we know very well through other products we sell them, such as property cat. That helps us take positions on the casualty portfolio. It also gives us comfort because we know how those companies underwrite their portfolios, and run their businesses.

Sorry, long-winded answer, but it's a bit of both.

Natalie Kershaw
Group CFO, Lancashire Holdings

Hi, Andreas. It's Natalie. Yeah. I'm sorry, on the question two, we don't give guidance by class, I'm afraid.

Andreas van Embden
Insurance Research Analyst, Peel Hunt

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

One moment please for the next question. The next question comes from the line of Nick Johnson from Numis. Please go ahead.

Nick Johnson
Director of Insurance Research, Numis

Hi, good afternoon. Thank you. A couple of questions. Firstly, on premium income for this year. You say you're comfortable with the $1.9 expectation. I mean, that implies a growth of 12% during the rest of this year against 23% achieved in Q1. Just wondering if you could say which parts of the business you expect growth to fade during the rest of this year and why? Or is it a case that the $1.9 is actually pretty conservative? If you could just help square that circle, please. Then secondly, on reinsurance purchase, obviously you've said the dollar cost will be higher this year.

Now that most of the program is probably already placed, just wondering if you can be a bit more specific about the quantum of the increase in $ spend, just to help us get a feel for that. Thank you.

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

Okay. Look, you know us, Nick. We, we'll underwrite to the opportunity. Look, I'm perfectly comfortable with the consensus of it's approximately 1.9. I think it's slightly above.

There remain a number of unknowns as we go through the year. You know, we don't know what's gonna happen in Florida, for example. If we don't feel that the opportunity is appropriate, then we won't deploy. We've got a big unknown about what happens in aviation towards the end of the year. So that we always try to be measured in our guidance, and that's what we're doing. We certainly don't wanna be held to a number 'cause we wanna underwrite in the right way, which is underwrite the opportunity in front of you. Look, we're comfortable with where consensus is. At the same time, as I've said many times on this call, we're really happy with where the market is.

Rates are still favorable, so if they remain that way, then we're happy to, you know, underwrite to that opportunity. I think on your second question, we can probably answer that better when we get to Q2 and have got full numbers out.

Nick Johnson
Director of Insurance Research, Numis

Okay. thanks very much. That's kind. Thank you.

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

Thanks.

Operator

One moment, please, for the next question. The next question comes from the line of Faizan Lakhani from HSBC. Please go ahead.

Faizan Lakhani
Director and Equity Research Analyst, HSBC

Hello there. Congratulations on a good set of results. I have three questions. The first one is on your guidance on the underlying combined ratio and the attrition loss ratio. I'm not gonna ask for new guidance, but just directionally, over this first quarter, how has the business that you've written differed to the business that you had planned to write in this quarter? Does that influence how we should be thinking about the underlying combined ratio, i.e., you know, did you write more sort of attritional business this quarter than expected? The second question is on capital. You know, capital position from a Bermudan SCR perspective is very strong, stronger than we expected. I guess the question in the market more broadly around the Lloyd's players in terms of how is the business steered really?

Is it solely looking through the Bermudan SCR ratio, or should we be using other sort of metrics, such as sort of nat cat exposure percentage of equity? Because it just, you know, obviously it seems very, very high, and it's hard to see what you can do with that capital. Just to understand, you know, is that really the level that you need to be at, or is there underlying dynamics that we can't really see from our side? The third one is, one of your competitors, Fidelis, has, you know, done an IPO or looking to do an IPO, focus more on specialty insurance side. Is there excess capacity coming into that market? How should we think about the dynamics going forward if we did see sort of increased capacity coming in there? Thank you.

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

On your last comment, you know, Fidelis, in fairness, are already in that market, so they're not, you know, I don't see that as new capacity coming to the market. Clearly, they're restructuring their business, but those guys are already in specialty insurance markets. I don't see that as a change. I think as well, when people make comments about entering the specialty insurance market, it's a very different sport to, say, enter, you know, an ILS investor coming into the cat space. You know, you need the right people. You need to build a team of underwriters. It generally takes three years to build a portfolio. There's lots of sort of direct, you know, meetings with clients. It's not quite as simple as what some people suggest.

As I said, I don't see any real change to the specialty insurance market. I'll let Natalie answer the question about, you know, guidance to that. You know, one thing I just want to be clear about is, you know, we don't run our business quarter to quarter. You know, we don't look at any individual quarter and change our strategy or nothing. You know, we take a, you know, a broader view over the year. We don't get hung up on quarterly numbers, which is why we don't even do quarterly numbers anymore. We just, you know, we don't think about it that way. I just want to be clear on that.

Natalie Kershaw
Group CFO, Lancashire Holdings

Yeah. On the guidance, we don't see any reason to change the guidance for the rest of this year. We're happy with the underlying performance in Q1. On the capital question, you know, we don't run our business to the Bermuda Regulatory Capital. The more constricting capital that we have to run to is the rating agencies. Specifically AM Best and S&P, where we're kind of held to a high level. The BSCR is probably more like a triple B type level, but, you know, our AM Best rating is A. And the difference really on AM Best, for cat writers like us, you're required to hold enough capital to withstand two cat events. It is quite, it's more restrictive than the BSCR.

Faizan Lakhani
Director and Equity Research Analyst, HSBC

And given the limitations that we have from our side, is there more disclosure you could provide to give us comfort around how we could potentially model that going forward rather than the Bermudan SCR?

Natalie Kershaw
Group CFO, Lancashire Holdings

I think actually what we might do on the next investor date is do a more detailed presentation on capital than maybe you've seen before. That should be able to help you.

Faizan Lakhani
Director and Equity Research Analyst, HSBC

Okay. Fantastic.

Operator

Once again, ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from the line of Tryfonas Spyrou from Berenberg. Please go ahead.

Tryfonas Spyrou
Associate Director and Equity Research Analyst, Berenberg

hi there. I just have one question left on the, on the PMLs. I can see that in your annual report that in the more tail risk scenarios, the 1 in 250, some of these have come down considerably vs the half year. I just wanted to get a sense on what you have done here on the windstorm side, and what does that mean, if anything, on your appetite for growth? Going forward, given that you don't really want to lean more into property cat. I also just wanted to check briefly if these are, if these PMLs are adjusted for the business written both on the inwards and outwards side, January this year. Thank you.

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

I think so, the PMLs you're referring to are PMLs from 31st of December. They are PMLs from last year, obviously won't take into account any business that we've underwritten at the 1st of January onwards in 2023, and also any changes to our reinsurance. I think I answered this on the last quarter. What we did do during the back end of 2022 following quite a lot of work from our actuarial team was changing the modeling vendor that we used. The reason we did that is we felt that the data and analysis that we got on, you know, a lot of secondary perils was far superior. What you did see, the lower down the curve, it's more penal.

On some, not all, tail events for some of those larger PMLs, there was some benefit kind of further out on the curve. That was really the real driver there. Obviously, when we get to our next set of results next quarter, we will have an updated set of PMLs which will reflect the 1/1 data set.

Tryfonas Spyrou
Associate Director and Equity Research Analyst, Berenberg

Thank you. Are there any preliminary comments you can make on the 1/1? How will those be reflected in the PMLs?

Paul Gregory
Chief Underwriting Officer, Lancashire Holdings

I mean, I can only reiterate what I've said around what we've been trying to do on our inwards and outwards, and maintain a broad net CAT footprint that's similar to last year. You know, modeling and PMLs are not an exact science, so things will move. Obviously I can't make any exact comments on them because we haven't published them.

Tryfonas Spyrou
Associate Director and Equity Research Analyst, Berenberg

Okay, thank you.

Operator

One moment, please, for the next question. The next question comes from the line of Anthony Young from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 14

Thank you very much. Good afternoon, everyone. Just a question on the casualty. I think you mentioned you tend to reserve conservatively in this line. Can I ask, should we, say, assume things develop as you expect, for example, the social inflation point, should we expect some higher reserve releases from this line in the future? A second follow-up question on that is how long is the claims duration in this line? Thank you.

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

I think that let's, you know, let's just reiterate what we've always said when we started writing the casualty class. You know, as you know, when we write any new class of business, we generally take a quite conservative approach to reserving as we build out the portfolio and understand the frontline better. I think casualty is well known to be a difficult class of business with, you know, a longer tail than the majority of our books. I think, you know, two years into our casualty writings, you know, we're not gonna make any changes to our assumptions anytime soon. I think we are being as conservative as probably any carrier can be on that portfolio. We're happy with where we're at, but it's just way too early to even consider any changes.

I said, I think we're at a conservative end. you know, we're not expecting to make any reserve releases anytime soon. It's a class of business that, as I said earlier, very pleased about with our timing, where we've come in. I'm very pleased with what the team's done for us so far. We're still in build-out mode. It's just way too early to talk about any reserve releases from casualty, and I think that's just the prudent thing to do.

Speaker 14

Thanks. Can I follow up if you can offer any color on the claims duration in this line?

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

Yeah, it's gonna be more than five years. It's gonna be more than five years.

Speaker 14

Cool. Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions, I will return the conference back to you, Alex.

Alex Maloney
Group CEO, Lancashire Holdings

Okay. Thank you for saying, and thank you everyone for your questions today, and we'll close the call now.

Operator

Thank you. This now concludes our presentation. Thank you all for attending. You may now disconnect.

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