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Earnings Call: Q2 2020

Jul 30, 2020

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Good morning. Good afternoon, everybody. Thanks very much for joining me and Andy here for our H1 2020 Results P resentation. As is our custom, I'll make a few comments up front. Andy will then go through a lot of the financial detail. I'll come back and try to pick up on some of the strategic themes that we have been hitting consistently, but also reflect on the current goings on, give a little bit of our sense of outlook. With that, if we could move to page three in your slide deck. Comment on our strategic progress to date, and also on our performance at a high level. Now, we'll be getting into a lot of detail on all these things as we go through the conversation.

First and foremost, it's very encouraging for us to have gotten to validation of the key strategic priorities that we've been highlighting for the past several years. These are things that have been critical for what has been a pretty good H1 for us, all things considered. We know that the economic, the health, the operational backdrop is about as challenging as we could have expected. Our focus on a good, strong network business with differentiated capabilities has allowed us to remain resilient in our corporate business through this period. Likewise, a focus on affluent clients clearly buffeted by some of the challenges that we're all experiencing. Nevertheless, this has proved fundamentally resilient, and we think we've made actually some good progress in terms of our market positioning.

Looking at the four markets that we had called out for optimizing low returns, very good progress across all four of those, and we could include other very important countries like China into that mix. We'll be drilling into that in some detail. We have had a consistent focus on productivity. It's what's allowed us to keep our expense base flat for several years now. The shift has moved from just getting leaner and more focused in everything that we do to fundamentally transforming the bank. This, of course, goes into overdrive in this environment, given the income headwinds that we're experiencing and that we know will continue to present themselves. We're talking about our focus on productivity. Very good advances on the digital side, where we're getting close to the point where some of our key initiatives are hitting the market in full force.

We're very encouraged by the progress that we've made and very encouraged by the way that we shifted the mindset in the bank around a digital first, cloud first data-driven business model, which we will be talking about. Finally, you've heard us refer consistently to our focus on sustainability. There's never been a more important time as we think about the recovery phase from the pandemic, to think about how we do that in a green way, in a sustainable way. These strategic pillars for us have been as relevant as they have ever been. Of course, this is happening against the backdrop of enormous economic and health challenges and also increasing geopolitical tensions. We're watching what's happening between the U.S. and China and all the implications thereof very carefully. I think we're navigating that acceptably so far.

We will clearly have more to say as when things develop there. Performance in the H1 of the year has been encouraging. Underlying momentum has been very strong. We started very strong in the beginning of the year with H1 income now up 5%, on a constant currency basis and excluding the positive DVA figure. Discipline over cost has continued to remain healthy. That's led to a 17% increase in pre-provision operating profit. Something that I think reflects the underlying earnings capability of our business. Of course, credit impairments were material in the H1, increase of $1.3 billion year-over-year, which is discouraging but not surprising in this environment. Good news is that after a very difficult Q1, we had a reduction in Q2, leading to a H1 operating profit reduced by 25% down to $2 billion.

We know that we're facing significant residual uncertainty, economic and otherwise, which makes us very comfortable running above our target capital range, the 14.3% CET1, with very strong liquidity position as well. We think that's an appropriate place for us to be in this environment. Of course, as things normalize, way to both maintain our investments in our growth capabilities, but also to return capital to shareholders via various means to the extent that surplus exists. That I will hand over to Andy, and I'll come back later with some comments on some strategic themes.

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Thank you very much, Bill. Good morning, good afternoon to everybody. If we can go on to slide five, the overview of the financials for the period, and I'll just pull out one or two things before we go into them in more detail afterwards. If you recall, in Q1, when COVID was primarily affecting the northern part of our region, we published a 6% growth in income on a constant currency basis, excluding DVA. Q2, I think actually has proven to be very resilient. A quarter when the whole of the business was impacted, but we still have printed a 4% increase in income. For the half year as a whole, 5% up, an $8 billion print on income with NIMs lower as we expected. In terms of operating expenses, those were 5% lower. Good cost control.

The two of those together have given us a pre-provision operating profit, which is up 22% compared with the H1 of last year. On credit impairment side, we took a charge of $1 billion in Q1. We have increased that by $0.6 billion in Q2 to give a half year total charge of $1.6 billion. When you put that all together in terms of underlying operating profit, we are down 25%. We have still printed a $2 billion operating profit for the H1, notwithstanding the significant provisioning. The impact of that, unsurprisingly, on the ROTE is, that has been reduced, so 6% for the H1 of the year. The CET1 is strong, 14.3%, so that's coming just above the top of the range that we have been working to. Liquidity in the period was also very strong, 149%.

A lot of work done to improve the mix of liabilities during the period. If I move then on to slide six, this is showing the split of the income growth, both looking at the H1 compared with the H1 last year, and Q2 compared with Q2 last year at the bottom. All numbers on here, we've stripped DVA out so that these are the raw numbers. You can see a fairly similar pattern really on both the top and the bottom. Very strong performance from financial markets, particularly in Q2. That has more than outweighed the interest rate effect, particularly in the transaction banking business, which, as we expected, has been impacted during the period, both in terms of margins and in terms of volumes.

On Q2, the other factor in there a little bit has been wealth management, which, because of activity levels in the period, has held us back a little, albeit more recent trends on that are actually looking more encouraging. Turning to slide seven and net interest income. You can see on the left-hand side of the chart here, $3.6 billion print for the half year, which is down 10% on last year. We said at the end of Q1 that interest rates would have an impact on the full year, and that is what we are seeing here. Since then, if anything, the curves have flattened a little bit. We've seen the three-month HIBOR go to the lowest levels it's been at for several years, driven by significant capital inflows actually into Hong Kong.

Obviously, it has had an impact upon the overall NIM as well. If you look at the NIM, 1.28% for the most recent quarter. On the bottom of the chart, you can see the average interest earning assets and the liabilities, both of which continue to move ahead about 3% or 4%. Then we have also taken the opportunity to update the sensitivity to interest rates. Last time we did that was at the end of last year before interest rates dropped so sharply. As a consequence now of the near to zero interest rates sensitivity, obviously on those has increased. The + $180 million - $335 million is now the sensitivity to 50 basis point movements in interest rates. Moving then on to slide eight, which is the other income, just over half of the income for the business overall.

The color coding on the left-hand side. The top part is fees, the bottom part is trading. On the top half, the fee income, fees and commissions was down 15%. That's roughly half in the consumer space, particularly wealth management, and half in the corporate space, particularly in transaction banking. On the other hand, the net trading income is up very significantly, 41% increase, 36% if one excludes DVA with a combination of strong FX activity, DVA benefits, some realizations in treasury markets, et cetera. Overall, very strong performance in the trading side of it. We have said in the update today that we do expect overall that we'll see income likely down in the H2 of the year, particularly because of interest rates and particularly because financial markets having had a great H1.

It would be good to think it would have similar on the H2, the buoyancy of the markets may be not quite replicable throughout the H2 of the year. If I move on to slide nine, this is having a look at the business from a client segment point of view in the first instance. If I just maybe focus upon the sort of income growth. The biggest income growth was in the top block, Corporate Institutional Banking up 13%. That is up 9%, even if one takes out DVA. A big focus upon both income there. Cost control has been great, huge improvement in the jaws, and also a big focus upon balance sheet and improving the mix, particularly on the liability front.

The retail and private bank businesses were both fractionally down on a reported basis on income, albeit fairly sort of similar on a constant currency basis. I think one would say that was a reasonably resilient performance given the external circumstances in there. Then on the private bank, we've got a slight reduction in profit. Bear in mind, there was quite a significant provision release that happened in the previous year, without which we would have seen a slight increase in the profitability in the private bank. If I move then on to slide 10, this is then looking at the business from the regional perspective. Slide 10. The fastest growth in the income is actually Europe and Americas with 38% growth, which was particularly strong in the H2 of the year.

Given that Europe and Americas is largely corporate business, corporate side business did well. That is broadly what one would expect. If we can move the slide on by one. ASEAN region at an 11% increase was also a very strong performer in the period, and we had particularly noteworthy growth in Indonesia and in India, both of which had roughly 40% increases in income in the period. Very strong performance. Greater China and North Asia at 2% increase. I think that is again, pretty resilient given the challenges in that region during the whole of the period. Hong Kong broadly was level on its income. We saw an increase in income in China of about 10%. The Korea business also had a great run with about a $200 million profit print for the half year. The AME region was a little bit more challenged.

We had a -6% headline growth. Really, if you think about this, we had the impact of COVID, we had the impact of oil prices, and also foreign exchange went against us. Without the foreign exchange, the region would have been about two percentage points down. Again, I think in the circumstances, not a bad print for the period. If we could move on to slide 11, which is the central and other. Central and other, not a lot actually to comment upon here. On the left-hand side, you can see the client profitability, which stayed similar at about $0.3 billion in both periods. A little less profit recognition in Bohai because following the IPO, we are recognizing the profit there on a slightly delayed basis. Offsetting that, we had some benefit of benefits in the treasuries phase.

Then on central and other, we've moved from small profit to small loss, which is largely about the income in the treasury capital business given the interest rates. Moving then on to slide 12 on the costs. We have, as I said earlier on, had, I think, a good half year on cost, a continuation of what we have been doing previously. A significant improvement in cost jaws and a print on cost, which was very similar in both Q1s and Q2s. We are continuing to invest in the business. We are continuing to digitize the business, and those have been big components of why we are keeping the cost down at these levels. We are reiterating our intent that the cost for the full year this year would be below the $10 billion mark.

Indeed, we are putting a lot of focus now into looking at other cost initiatives to endeavor to keep the cost in 2021 also down below the $10 billion mark on the same currency basis as we are experiencing today. I think cost story is a good story. To move on to the credit side on slide 13. We have got, as I mentioned earlier, a $1.6 billion charge for the H1 of the year. That is obviously up a lot, as you can see from the top left chart compared with the same period last year. You can see in the bar charts the sequential movement on that in the middle there. We are down by 30%, 40% from Q1. That reduction is primarily reduction in the CIB space. The retail business fairly similar.

The CIB was down. In particular, that was because we had no new significant names appearing in the CIB space during the quarter. Overall charge is about 60% is Stage 3 and about 20% on Stages 1 and 2 models and on Stage 1 and 2 management overlay, which I'll come onto in a minute. Impairment charge, about 20% of our overall income. Higher in the ASA region, about 35%, and about 30% in the AME region. Only about 10% of income in our biggest region, GCNA, and the one which is hopefully moving out of the COVID era first. I think there's good progress there. On the bottom of the chart, we have shown again the makeup of the stages and the categories here, and you can see we've had Stage 3 go up a bit in the period about $1 billion.

CG12 has stayed similar, the earlier alerts has gone up again. In part, that's because we have now gone through all sectors over the course of Q2. In fact, the earlier alert numbers peaked in May, have come off very fractionally since then. Keeping a close eye on those. Cover ratios on provisioning, a fraction lower than previously. That is primarily some of the older debts that were fully provided have been written out. Some of the newer exposures that are coming in have got guarantee and credit insurance in them instead. Overall, we've said if the economic environment remains similar or doesn't deteriorate too much further, then we would anticipate that the H2 impairment charges should be lower than the H1. If I then move on to slide 14.

Slide 14 is just taking one component of the credit impairment charges, the Stages 1 and 2. You can see in the first box here, $450 million for Q1, that is pretty much halved in Q2 to just over $200 million. You can also see there that roughly half of those total charges was driven by the models themselves, about half of it was from management overlay. We have applied some discretion, particularly on the retail side, just to reflect that we have got relief measures and loan moratoria periods. On the corporate side of it, we have got the exposures, the early alerts. We have taken some caution on both of those fronts, which in aggregate is about $300 million for the H1 of the year in total.

If I then move on to slide 15, this again is just taking one other cross-cut of our numbers. This is the retail exposures on the balance sheet. These are just over 40% of total balance sheet exposures. I suppose two or three points here. One is that we are very heavily secured, so 86% of the total is actually secured. Secondly, we have moved quite significantly towards more affluent clients who hopefully will be able to withstand the current period a little bit better. Overall, we have got, I think, the book in a much better state going into this period than was the case a period before. Bill will talk a little bit about the relief measures in a few minutes. With that, then on to the next slide and the level of risk-weighted assets and the CET1 ratio.

The risk-weighted assets for the half year as a whole came down by $1.5 billion. As many of you will recall, we have a $9 billion benefit from the Permata disposal, which is the biggest component of that reduction. On other fronts, we have had some movement up on asset quality, so the grade on the asset side of it. We have had some movements on other fronts, like the quality of the RWAs, the density of the RWAs, which have gone in the opposite direction. Overall, about a $1.5 billion reduction in RWAs. In terms of the CET1 ratio, as I said earlier, that has come in at 14.3%. Again, a number of factors that play into that.

Some of that is about the suspension of the dividend, some of that is about Permata disposal, and some of that is about credit migration. Overall, at 14.3% with strong liquidity, we feel in a good position going into the remaining phases of COVID, and hence it is good to have a strong capital position, obviously, as we go through the next few quarters. With that, let me hand back to Bill.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Great, Andy. Thank you very much. If you could turn to page 18 in our deck. We're going to start with a little bit of review of the way that we're approaching our communities, our colleagues, and our clients. It's never been a better time to be a purpose-led organization. I think we're seeing that quite clearly. We've set out a very clear purpose for our organization. We've shared that externally. I just give a couple of callouts on a few of the things that we've been doing. Maybe first and foremost in sustainability, the climate change challenges and the other sustainable development goals that we've subscribed to have not gone away as a result of this pandemic. If anything, they've become much more acute.

We've maintained our focus in this area, not just in terms of our own activity, $2.2 billion of infrastructure related financing in the sustainability space, together with a significant increase in the level of sustainable deposits that we generated, et cetera. We've been advocating quite strongly in the global community to make sure that we're set up for a recovery that isn't just led through fiscal stimulus, but rather green fiscal stimulus. Key priority for us. Second is we've made a very substantial investment in our people. Of course, we're very proud of what our colleagues have been able to deliver through this very challenging time. We know that the world is changing fast and will change even faster as a result of COVID-19. The whole reskilling agenda is critically important.

We've launched a whole new set of learning tools for our colleagues, primarily online, of course, right now, but being complemented by in-person training when available, but also through on-the-job development. The fact that we had almost a third of our workforce, a little bit over a third of our workforce, spend a significant amount of time on our internal training sites is the clearest testimony we could get to, one, the quality of what we're offering, but two, the importance in the eyes of our colleagues, but also in our own eyes. Third, the focus on community. Of course, it starts with being there for our clients during difficult times. As Andy mentioned, and as I will mention, we have stood by our clients during this challenging time for them.

We've also found ways to help in ways that are apart from our core banking business, including raising $15 million from the bank, complemented by significant donations from employees, to be used for both immediate and frontline relief. Also as we get into the recovery phase, making sure that the youth, in particular in our markets, are employable and employed. We've talked before about the billion-dollar program that we set up to provide financing to companies who are fighting the fight against the pandemic. As we turn to slide 19, we talk a little bit about the relief measures that we put in place for individual customers.

Broadly, we have markets where we have mandatory programs, markets where we have voluntary programs, but with strong encouragement from governments, and markets where we have no programs, where we've taken a voluntary approach, which we think is consistent with the best of the mandatory programs. Overall, we've had about 4% of our retail clients seeking relief. That has translated to about 8% of loans and advances. About half of the people that have sought relief have sought relief under voluntary programs, and the vast majority of those are in the ASEAN South Asia region, where the lockdowns have been most persistent and pervasive, and where the government programs have been most substantial.

Under the 8% of loans and advances, $8.9 billion, about 79% of those have come as a result of mandatory programs, and 89% are current, meaning that they were current when they went into the relief program, and/or they've remained current throughout. About 79% of the relief loans and advances are secured. As Andy indicated, that's the bulk of our retail lending portfolio in any case. About two-thirds of those are mortgages and with a relatively low loan-to-value, down at 37%. Apart from the relief programs, where I think we've been proactive and front-footed, we've taken a number of steps to be sure that we're servicing our customers throughout, and that's keeping our branches, ATMs, call centers open. We've been approving over 98% of the relief requests that have come in.

What we've seen in the markets that have come out of the pandemic lockdowns earlier, so China and Hong Kong, and Korea most specifically, we've seen a substantial return to normal. A reduction in delinquency rates and reversal of some of those relief trends. All in all, I would think we've been responsive, we think we've been responsible, and we're encouraged by the degree to which the markets have begun to recover. If we move to page 20, we'll talk about the similar themes on the corporate side. There are some parallels, for sure. Maybe first comment that only about 3% of our corporate and commercial institutional bank loans and advances have been extended. It's about $5.6 billion. About a little over two-thirds of that is commercial banking clients, clearly the segment of our client population that's most affected by this.

Larger clients have either had access to capital markets or have had cash reserves on which to draw. About 20% of those exposures are in our vulnerable sectors, which we've talked about, aviation, oil and gas, et cetera. We've had about 5,000 clients looking for support. Very skewed to commercial banking clients by number. It's also interesting to note that the vast majority of these, 99%, have been in the performing and safe credit grades going into the process. This is not an opportunity for clients that were struggling in any case to take advantage, at least not in a large-scale way, of relief programs that are on offer. About two-thirds of the relief that we've granted is very short-term exposure, so under 90 days. Only 3% over 180 days.

We think that overall this is very manageable, and we maintained a very good, healthy dialogue with clients throughout. A quick update on the billion-dollar commitment that we made. We've had great take-up. Over 100 clients. It's substantially spoken for at this point and almost half funded. A couple of examples on this page. It's encouraging and sometimes even heartwarming to see the uses that our clients are finding to which they can put our money. If we turn to page 21, quick run through on the network. The clearly more challenging environment with trade flows down substantially, interest rates impacting our NIM substantially, and with economic activity and cross-border investing also impacted. It's been a challenging period from a pure financial perspective. We have had good growth from our new and other next generation target clients, up 14% year-on-year.

The network income is down about 6%, which we think probably reflects the level of resilience. When we look at our trade volumes, our trade assets are down about 11% year-on-year. The market's down about 20%. It feels like we probably picked up a bit of share there as we did in the cash side. The overall challenges on the network side are present. When we look at the return from this client segment, even in the subdued environment, they're still quite good. The underlying trends that we think play to our strengths, including the ongoing opening up of China, which we think will continue to be a theme with very substantial inflows into the Chinese debt markets, into the bond markets. We're extremely well-placed to capitalize on the changes in our network for which we've been positioning so aggressively over the past several years.

If we move to page 22, focus on our affluent clients. Very resilient performance. Again, some of the same macro challenges in terms of inability to market face-to-face to these clients. Despite that, we've had an increase in the number of priority clients, up another 2%. Clearly been challenged in terms of being able to convert some of our client growth into net new money. Basically flat on the year. AUM is down on the back of market flows. Income is basically flat. Continues to be a very nice and high-returning business. Most importantly, we've been experimenting and now rolled out in full force a whole stream of digital offerings, which have allowed us to maintain a very high level of engagement with these clients throughout.

We're finding that not only has helped to protect the income growth during the most directly affected period, but also leaves us in a very good position to deal with these clients as they come back into the normal ways of working for them. Overall, encouraged by the resilient results on the affluent side. We turn to page 23. We are very happy with the progress that we're making in these four markets that we specially called out a year and a half ago. We've had strong income growth in all the markets with the exception of U.A.E., which as Andy mentioned, has been particularly hard hit, not just by COVID, but by oil prices. Really, it's phenomenal growth. Some of this is financial markets, but even stripping out the strong financial markets results, we've had very good income growth in India, Korea, and Indonesia.

Costs are under control and improving in all four of those markets. It clearly was part of the focus on optimization. This has led to $405 million of profit before tax, which is a 7% increase year-over-year, despite some of the credit challenges that we all face. Just a couple of areas to call out. Steady growth in our global subsidiaries business across the board, so dealing with subsidiaries of our large MNC customers and key growth in the priority segment. Again, both very focused on our strategic themes of network income streams and our affluent client base. We turn to page 24. We've, as Andy commented, steady improvement on the productivity side. A lot of this productivity is coming from digital investments that we made in prior years and from underlying process automation and process improvement.

No surprise that the measures of digital sales have increased dramatically during the period. The productivity figures per FTE or on either income or pre-provision operating profit are very encouraging. As important as doing more of the stuff that is more convenient for customers and more efficient for us, we're also finding ways to discourage clients from doing the things that are less efficient. Steering them away from the more manually intensive or paper-based forms of engagement has been a key part of our productivity drive. We look to the confidence that Andy was able to express about not just this year's expenses, but our targets for next year as well to keep expenses below that $10 billion level. This has to do with fundamental business transformation more than just finding ways to cut out bits and pieces of fat.

This will remain a key area of focus for us. We move to page 25. Just a quick comment on the digital side. Again, no big surprise, mobile and digital adoption are way up, both on the wholesale and the retail side of our business. Mox, which is our Hong Kong virtual bank, is in advanced testing right now with sort of full-scale beta testing. We expect to launch that very soon. Very encouraged by the results. Very encouraged to see the response to the brand and offering launch with quite a substantial group of people who have indicated their intention to sign up for an account once we are up and running. Good ongoing growth in Africa at 330,000 new accounts, maintaining high balance levels relative to our previous offerings in Africa.

We've got a number of joint ventures which are really producing results now. We call out a personal loan partnership with Ant Financial, which has helped to drive the good, strong income growth in China this year with very good risk experience, especially through this challenging time. nexus is a Banking as a Service platform that we are initiating testing in Indonesia through the leading e-commerce player. We will deliver this Banking as a Service through multiple e-commerce channels in multiple markets. This is an opportunity for us both to generate a new account base with deposits and associated personal loans attached to the very high penetration that some of these e-commerce platforms have that we could not replicate ourselves. This is being recognized externally.

It's being recognized by our clients, most importantly, but by various observers who at various points rate us best digital bank in Asia, best digital bank in Hong Kong, et cetera. It's something that we are proud of and think reflects the real progress that we're making. If we can move to page 26 and make some concluding comments. I'm going to start at the bottom of this page, where we set out the GC&A evolution of our wealth and credit card spend, and the ASA evolution. As you can see, we've had a good, healthy uptick since the lockdowns have been relaxed in GC&A to Hong Kong and China and Korea, which were early in and early out of the pandemic-related lockdowns. The trends are a little bit less discernible on the ASA side. Obviously, the recovery began a bit later. It's been more muted.

A number of markets are still in lockdown or have had meaningful second waves like Singapore. We are encouraged by the underlying dynamism of our clients, the underlying dynamism of our markets, and our ability to stay relevant to these clients. Focusing on the outlook. We know that economic activity is likely to be volatile. It's going to be uneven across our footprint, and we expect this to persist for some time. That, together with low interest rates for a long period of time, increasingly the case across our markets, presents us with some real economic headwinds, some real financial headwinds. The geopolitical risks are very present. We're focused on them to an extraordinary degree. We've had no material impact on our business so far as a result of these geopolitical flare-ups. We recognize that there are elements of escalation that could be impactful for us.

We're prepared for those. We are watching very carefully to the extent that we can influence them. We are, although realistically, these are areas that we can watch and prepare for and respond as appropriate. As Andy said, we are targeting expenses below $10 billion both this year and next year. We find it very challenging to forecast our loan impairments. What we can say is that if economic conditions don't deteriorate materially and if governments remain as effective as they have been in terms of putting various steps in place to avoid the worst of the outcomes from this pandemic, then we would anticipate loan impairments in the H2 of the year to be below the loan impairment level in the H1 of the year. There are many certainly caveats and possible different scenarios in that regard.

I will stop now, turn over for questions and answers. Just a final comment from me. We're very proud of the organization, of its resilience. We're very proud of the response that we've gotten from clients during this challenging time. We think the financial results show that. Even more importantly, we think the feedback that we're getting from clients about the quality of the Standard Chartered offering and the relevance of our offering has never been more important or more encouraging in terms of the actual value of our franchise. With that, thank you for taking the time with us, and we'll turn it over for Q&A.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. We will now begin with the question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question via the audio, please press star and one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced. To cancel your request, please press the hash key. Alternatively, please use the question box available on your web page to submit your questions. The first question comes from the line of Jenny Cook from Exane. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Jenny Cook
Analyst, Exane

Thank you. Morning, guys. Couple of questions from me, please. Firstly, on RWAs. They look to have been impacted by about $5 billion of negative credit migration in Q2, which kind of on an ongoing basis seems to be maybe a little bit above where you were guiding at Q1. Should we be thinking about this as the ongoing run rate, or was Q2 particularly impacted by downgrades in some of the vulnerable sectors, maybe? Have you seen any lengthening of the behavioral maturity for customers experiencing stress? Secondly, coming to you, Andy, as a good story. Just on the cost. A very simple annualization of the H1 cost print would seem to point to a number much better than consensus for FY 2020.

What should we be expecting regarding any bonus true-ups later in the year, given that H1 staff costs were down about 7% year-over-year, which seems a bit inconsistent maybe with the market performance. Regarding that guidance on FY 2021, should we be thinking about the rate of cost growth going forward now being some way lower than inflation? Finally, I might just slip in a cheeky one just on NII. It's quite hard to look past the movement 12.5% sequentially. It's down about, I think, 12.5% sequentially, despite interest only assets being up 4%. In light of the moves in HIBOR in the curve at the minute, are you still comfortable with the NII guidance that you gave at Q1? Thank you.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Andy, why don't you address those questions?

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Okay. Thanks for those questions. RWAs, as you've seen, we had pretty much the benefit of Permata offsetting the credit movement, the volume movement within the book, et cetera. Clearly going forward, Permata only happens once, self-evidently. I would expect we would see some increase in the RWAs over the balance of the year. For two reasons. One, we do hope that there are opportunities out there, to be lending more. Secondly, credit migration, I think, is likely to be upwards rather than downwards, realistically. Hopefully, we have seen more of the credit migration in the early months of the year than we will see in the latter months of the year. The proof of that will very much be in the efficacy of the lifting of lockdowns in various countries and how that then impacts upon our client base.

I'd expect some increase in the RWAs over the period of the year, over the balance of the year, but nothing sort of particularly noteworthy. On the costs, the cost print has been good, as you can see. We have taken a thoughtful view, hopefully, in terms of staff cost, bonuses, et cetera, in accruing for Q1 and Q2, which we'll continue to do through the balance of the year. I did observe that H2 costs do tend to be a little bit higher than the H1. If you normalize the H1 and add a little bit, you do come to a number that is just sub $10 billion, which is what we are very much targeting for the business going forward. Obviously on the cost, the issue is beyond 2020.

We want to make sure that we have got enduring change and enduring projects in the business so that actually we can keep below the $10 billion number next year, but on a more structural basis. Your third question, I think, was on the net interest and the margins there. Those clearly have come down. We guided at the end of Q1 that with the rate changes we would see income come down because of interest rates. I think it's probably fair to say that rates and the curves have flattened a little bit more than we envisaged at that time. It was a little bit of a guessing game. If we knew now what we knew then, we might have talked about an $800 million rather than $600 million number for the year. Something of that order. Obviously there are a number of moving effects here.

Rates and margin is one, volumes is another. In that sort of order. Balance of the year clearly will have more impact on the interest line. Worthy of note, I think that over half our income, however, in the H1 was not from interest, was actually from fees and from trading. It is one part of the overall mix, but it is not now the dominant part.

Jenny Cook
Analyst, Exane

Okay. Just to make sure I heard you correctly, you said $800 million would be your guess if you had to kind of mark to market today on rates?

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Yes. Yeah. What we referred to as $600 million then is more $800 million if we were basing on today's facts.

Jenny Cook
Analyst, Exane

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Tom Rayner from Numis. Please ask your question. Your line is now open.

Tom Rayner
Analyst, Numis

Thank you very much. Good morning, Bill. Good morning, Andy. Can I just ask, please, on the question about the sustainability of revenue growth when looking beyond 2020. If I take your guidance for the H2, I think it's fair to assume that the current consensus of around $15 billion for this year is still intact. The mix of that looks like being a much lower net interest margin, probably less smaller contribution from wealth management and transaction banking, and a much bigger contribution from financial markets. Consensus has revenue growing next year by about 1.5% and then picking up to 4% growth in 2022, which based on your cost guidance, et cetera, gets you to a return on tangible equity of 7%, bearing in mind your other sort of overriding target.

I guess the question is, are you still comfortable with that consensus view of where revenue is going? How dependent is that now on a recovery in NIM at some point? Do you need financial markets to continue making a bigger contribution than historically? Are there other drivers with new clients, et cetera, that you think can pick up some slack? I'm just trying to get an understanding how comfortable you are really with current market consensus thinking.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Thanks very much, Tom. Let me take a first pass at that, and I know Andy will have lots more to add. First, the dynamics as we come out of the acute pandemic phase has been already a returned growth in some key product lines like wealth management. Up through and including the month of July, we've had a strong rebound in the markets, which have been lagging during the pandemic period for all the obvious reasons. The interest headwinds, by contrast, will not go away, and then we've got reaffirmation from the Fed yesterday that we will be low for long, and no reason to think that HIBOR rates will be different either. The way for us to get back to growing income stream is first and foremost to make sure that our transaction volumes continue to pick up speed.

We're comfortable given the momentum that we've had over the past couple of years and the momentum that we've had over the past few months, now that we can make a material impact on income growth through volume growth. Really, our business has become de-marginalized as we've gone from year to year, less dependent on the measures of balance sheet and more dependent on non-financing income. Those are the opportunities for us as we think as a global economy reset, as trade flows re-normalize, and as we're able to continue to press our network income. We think that there's plenty of opportunity for growth there. Finally, just on financial markets, of course, the global community, the banking community, enjoyed a very robust period in trading markets. Have we?

What we don't have, relative to some of the big other capital markets players, is a very large U.S. capital markets business. That clearly has been the big driver of outperformance in a number of markets. It's the capital markets business itself and also the associated hedging activities. Rather, we can in general, and to the most part, in our emerging markets. We think that's a more sustainable growth and income stream. As Andy and I both indicated, it would be difficult to replicate H1 of 2020 FM results, in the H2 of the year or next year. We do think that that's a secular growth opportunity for us, and that the investments that we've made in that area over the past couple of years are clearly paying off. I'll hand over to Andy to complete thoughts on this one.

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Yeah. I would probably just add to what Bill has said. This year, we've got essentially nine months when we are likely going to be impacted quite severely by COVID. Hopefully, as we are coming out of this year and things are settling more going into next year, I think the volumes on a comparison between next year and this year should offer some upside. Secondly, financial markets may not be as buoyant as it is recently, but unless we are into much calmer territories, I still think that there is going to be a lot of volatility. There will still be a good amount of trading activity around next year. Thirdly, some areas where we've been a little bit weaker since wealth management, I think would be a good example.

Actually, the trends at the moment, particularly in Northern Asia, have been the first region to start coming out of this. We're not far off January levels now of income. Generally, the trends there are starting to pick up. Clearly, with several months to go before we get into 2021, I think there are reasons to believe that there should be some upsides on the volume front as we go into next year. You put all of that together, I think we're there or thereabouts in terms of what we should be going for.

Tom Rayner
Analyst, Numis

Okay. Can I just have a very quick follow-up just on the cost side. Can you hear me okay? Hello?

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Yeah, we can.

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Yeah.

Tom Rayner
Analyst, Numis

Sorry. Just a quick follow-up on the cost guidance. $10 billion or below $10 billion for 2021. That gives you versus where consensus is today, wiggle room of about $50 million. I guess when you target below $10 billion, you're thinking something a bit more comfortable than $50 million. Is that a fair assessment of how you think about your guidance?

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Andy?

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Yeah, I thought that might come to me. Listen, I think we're talking 18 months now in total. I think a below $10 billion print next year, obviously looking at constant currency, I think would be a sensible place to be positioning the business. Plus or minus $50 million, I don't know, as long as it's below $10 billion by one, I'm happy with that. I'm even happier if it's $50 million below or $100 million below. I think the key thing really is that we need to take the opportunity now to push even harder on things that will digitalize the business. As a lot of businesses are reflecting upon the last few months, clearly that is a major area of focus. It has been a big area of focus for us over a period of time. I think it just renews our focus to do things like that.

We are going to constantly look at things we can do to make the business more efficient. I think having a target out there that is memorable both externally and internally is a good call to arms. We will do everything we can to get to at or below the $10 billion number for next year.

Tom Rayner
Analyst, Numis

Okay. Thank you very much, guys.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Rob Noble from Deutsche Bank. Please ask your question. Your line is now open.

Rob Noble
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Morning, all. Thanks for taking my questions. Can I just ask, can you give us an idea of how Hong Kong is performing economically at the moment on the ground? Is the political tension causing any concern among your clients at all? Just a clarification on the costs. How much of it this year, the cost savings to get it to below $10 billion is coming from lower investments versus business as usual efficiency saves and how much does that change going into 2021? Thanks.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Thanks, Rob. Again, I'll take a first pass. Hong Kong obviously is in quite a severe economic slump. It began last year largely as a result of the civil protests and has continued this year through COVID and the general global economic malaise. Q2 GDP prints of down close to 10% are obviously troublesome. It's not clear that any of that relates through to the U.S.-China tensions. The general backdrop, in terms of economic malaise in the world, is certainly contributed to by that level of uncertainty.

In terms of our clients in Hong Kong changing the way that they would behave, apart from the fact that they were severely disrupted in the H2 of last year and into the early part of this year, through the protests and on the partial lockdown in Hong Kong and the much more substantial global economic contraction that's pandemic related. That seems to be the primary driver. That gives us some confidence that as some of those headwinds recede, that Hong Kong will come back to its same dynamic, healthy underlying growth. Now just to quickly comment on costs. We've not cut back on our investments and are trying very hard to protect our investments as we go into next year. The investment program for the bank has been very substantial for the past few years. It's paying off. We're seeing it in the productivity figures.

We're seeing it in our ability to keep expenses flat or down while income is growing. We're seeing it in terms of some really cutting-edge digital initiatives that will begin to produce revenue in the later part of this year and will pick up speed over the next two or three years. The investment program is pretty central. Of course, what we will look at and continue to look at is which of our investments do we really need to prioritize in this environment. We're in a different market, we're in a different world, and that can certainly involve some repotting or some repositioning of some of the investments that we make. We don't expect to materially reduce our investment profile. Andy?

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Yeah. Just on the second one, we spend about a $1.5 billion of cash on investments in any year. We've obviously gone through to have a look at the more discretionary parts of that portfolio. As Bill has said, we are very keen that the things that are structural, are strategic, we absolutely keep pressing on with those. I think realistically, as with most businesses, the rate of spend may slightly moderate just because of the physical difficulty of getting resource in the COVID environment. It may take $100 million off that number or something like that for the year. We expense half of that, so $50 million. If you wanted a ballpark to your question of how much it is helping in keeping the cost down this year, it's something in that $50 million space in P&L terms.

Rob Noble
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Martin Leitgeb from Goldman Sachs. Please ask your question. Your line is now open.

Martin Leitgeb
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Yes. Good morning. Good morning also from my side, and thank you for the presentation. I just wanted to follow up firstly on the various comments you made on the outlook. It seems like Asia was first impacted by the pandemic. From your comments, I also gather from what you see on the ground, in particular in North Asia, you can see it evolving quicker out in terms of recovery. Is that something you see across your footprint in terms of client activity, that activity levels, particularly in Asia, are picking up faster than elsewhere? Should that give a, if I read your comment right, or just to follow up on that the underlying asset growth, loan growth from here could essentially accelerate. That's despite, obviously, the tensions in Hong Kong. The second question, just briefly to follow up on your NII comment.

I was just wondering if you could help us how to think about the NIM progression from here. I appreciate the comment on the higher rate sensitivity as to one of the earlier questions. I was just wondering in terms of the moving parts here, HIBOR being down in the quarter and then being much lower at the end of Q2. Should we expect NIM here to continue to drop a little bit, or are there still benefits from the legal entity restructuring, which could essentially lead to the kind of a stabilization of NIM from here? Finally, just on capital, just to confirm. On slide 16, I think you call out the 15 basis points impact from COVID relief regulatory changes. Does that essentially imply that you're fully loaded with common equity tier 1, fully loaded for IFRS 9 transitional?

Is essentially not that much different, as to the 14.3% you printed as of the end of Q2. How should we think about scope for capital return from here? Are there any material headwinds outside of the RWA migration you flagged earlier, which we should be aware of? Thank you.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Great. Thanks very much, Martin. I'll take the first pass at the earlier comment, know that Andy can complete that question and deal with the next two. Of course, you're correct that China and Hong Kong were first into the containment period and first out. We've been very encouraged by the return to something approaching normal, which has involved both a reduction in credit delinquencies, but also a return closer to normal growth management activities. That is continuing to this day. Obviously, we're watching what the impact will be in Hong Kong of this third wave that they're fighting right now, which has resulted in a lockdown that's as severe as any lockdown that Hong Kong has had so far. We'll see. Clearly, there's a containment capability that's well understood now, and we're optimistic that Hong Kong will get this current spike under control.

Of course, we're also reminded by Wuhan, also by what we saw earlier in the month or last month in Beijing, that this virus hasn't gone away. It will come back up from time to time, and there could be ongoing economic disruptions. When we look beyond, obviously, Korea, which Andy mentioned, I mentioned as well, has had a stellar performance in the first part of the year. As you know, it had quite a severe outbreak early in the pandemic. It never went into complete lockdown, has had very effective containment mechanisms, and has burned through a very healthy level of business activity for us. These are the role models as it were. When we look to the Eastern and Southeast Asian markets, we're obviously hopeful that Singapore follows a similar path to Hong Kong and to China.

They are at the forefront of fighting quite a nasty second wave of the pandemic, as you know. We're also seeing some of the early signs, as I mentioned in my final slide. Some early signs of encouraging trends there. The rest of ASEAN is a little bit further behind, but the containment efforts have been reasonably successful in places like Malaysia, Vietnam. We would hope that we would see similar sorts of trends in those markets. When we go beyond into South Asia, India and Bangladesh, the pandemic is still very severe. Middle East is certainly experiencing pressure, not just from the pandemic, but from oil prices. Africa is still in a relatively early stage of the containment or the evolution of the pandemic as well.

We think it's going to take some time before those parts of our footprint come back to anything close to full speed, and it's likely that the economic conditions will be somewhat enduring. Then there's the U.S. and Europe, and we see what's happening in the U.S. right now, and we're all fearful of the increase in infection activity in Europe as people are moving around, lockdown is recedes. As Andy pointed out, Europe has been a very strong region for us in the H1 of the year, temporarily on the back of the Asian markets, which could be, but also in terms of general activity. I think the Western world continues to see the East as an opportunity for growth and is continuing to invest there, and to engage in trading and other activity there, which obviously plays well to Standard Chartered strengths.

With that, I'll hand over to Andy for a few questions.

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Okay. Thanks, Bill. Martin, on your second question on NIM, I guess as the rate impact rolls through the book, it's logical to think that we'll see some further reduction in the NIM over the balance of the year, although I think the majority of it we've gone through, but there is some further to go. A lot of moving parts, as you refer to the legal restructuring, gives us some benefit. HIBOR coming down has an impact, will be quite a lot of our lending there is linked to the prime rate. Overall, I'd say slightly lower, but we've gone through the majority of the reduction.

On capital, yes, the printed number of 14.3%, if you take out the effects that are specific to regulatory relief relating to COVID, then 14.2% or something like that is still the number, but is still clearly above the range that we have been trying to operate to in a business as usual era. I think your point on capital returns is an interesting one. Clearly two quarters into COVID, to actually have the balance sheet in a position where we are above the range that we normally operate to is a good position to be in. Where it moves from now will be dependent upon two things. One is going to be the growth opportunities there are out there to lend more. Secondly, is going to be about credit migration, which itself will be dependent on how successful countries are in lifting out of the lockout period.

I think either way, we've got good flexibility there. I'd hope that we'd be certainly in the higher end of our range for the full year as we see it at the moment. Our approach to returns, obviously at the moment it is on pause. Generally speaking, it remains as previously, that where there are opportunities to profitably grow the business, that is where we will deploy capital to the extent that there is surplus. If having done that, there are opportunities to return capital, then that is what we'll do, obviously subject to regulatory approval. We'll only do that when we're reasonably confident that the outlook is a bit more foreseeable than maybe another couple of quarters, three quarters on from now. That should certainly be the case.

Bottom line, I think coming midway through the COVID era with capital ratios as high as they are, with liquidity as strong as it is, we actually feel that's quite a good space. In the next year or so, obviously we'll see how the whole returns position evolves both for us and for the sector as a whole.

Martin Leitgeb
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Very clear. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Manus Costello from Autonomous. Please ask your question. Your line is now open.

Manus Costello
Analyst, Autonomous

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I had a couple, please. Firstly, could you just clarify your statement about expectations for 2021? Andy, you said revenue would be there or thereabout. What did you mean by that? Do you think you will grow revenue in 2021 versus 2020? My second question is a follow-up on NIM, which is tumbling precipitously towards almost being a double-digit NIM at this rate. I wondered longer term, does it change your thinking about the mix of the balance sheet? Do you think that there is opportunity to deploy some of that excess capital in higher NIM areas, given how much you've controlled your credit policy over the course of the last few years? Could NIM grow through mix rather than just hoping for rates to go up? Thank you.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Andy, why don't you get a stab at that and then Tom as well.

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Yeah. Manus, my comment on there or thereabouts was to the question of do we sort of feel the consensus is in the right ballpark? That was what I said. There or thereabouts, obviously 18 months to go. There's a lot of water to pass under the bridge. As I said previously, there are reasons why the back end of this year will be under interest rate pressure. There are reasons why next year should hopefully benefit from some volume pickup, and hence you sort of come back to something that's relatively stable on the current year. That was the context there. On the NIM, I think there's a variety of things, obviously, that we are reflecting upon.

One is the proportion of our activity that is not interest rate related, the focus particularly on the financial markets type business, the focus upon wealth management, the focus upon affluent customer base. The more we can do in those spaces itself, evidently, is going to be good. We are in the interest space, going to continue to be very disciplined and very thoughtful about returns. We will not push into places where we are uncomfortable, that the balance of risk and opportunity is inappropriate. Again, we keep that under review. I think that is one of evolution of mix of the business rather than sort of revolution of the business. Overall, this H1 we got performing from non-interest related sources than interest related sources.

The more that we can keep that sort of activity up without taking on a lot of risk within the business, then we will continue to do that.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Manus, just a little bit of color from me. As Andy pointed out in the prepared comments, our retail consumer credit book is substantially secure, mostly mortgages with very low loan to value. We have a low risk consumer portfolio, not risk-free, as we see given the loan impairments that we've taken in particular with the ECL. We've been developing our capabilities quite substantially over the past couple of years to take a data-driven approach to consumer lending on an unsecured basis. We've rolled out a number of discrete initiatives in Europe, where the early results are quite good. In China, where our primary mechanism for penetrating the unsecured consumer credit market is through a joint venture with Ant Financial, a partnership really with Ant Financial, where we've had very good both credit and return experience in the early phases, and it's contributed to our China results.

When we look to the programs like the....... Which I mentioned earlier, is our Banking as a Service model in Indonesia. There will be a substantial consumer lending component to that banking offering that will be delivered through an e-commerce platform, where the experience that we've had in other markets has been that we can have much better credit scoring and also much better credit repayment characteristics where we have a streaming partner relative to where we're doing the credit work ourselves or just relying on bureaus. We're not going crazy with this. We're quite aware of the riskiness of the environment, especially right now.

This is a capability we've been building that allow us to go into..... You suggested through your question might be attractive, which is to have a proportion of our balance sheet that's generating higher returns in a way that is actually playing to some of our core strengths.

Manus Costello
Analyst, Autonomous

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Joe Dickerson from Jefferies. Please ask your question. Your line is now open.

Joe Dickerson
Analyst, Jefferies

Hi. Thank you for taking the question. Most have been answered, I did have one question on the mortgage line. It was quite a strong performance there. Perhaps if I look even a record for the current mix of businesses that you have, I'm wondering what's driving the spread improvement there and how sustainable that might be over the coming quarters. Whilst a small proportion of your group revenues, it was actually in the H1 of the year accounted for about 15% of the year-on-year growth in reported revenues. If you could give us some steer on the shape of that line over the coming quarters, that would be very helpful. At least what the dynamics were in Q2. Thanks.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Andy, do you want to take a pass at that?

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Yeah, let me do that. The mortgage book for us is particularly strong in Hong Kong. It's a large part of our overall mortgage activity, and we have seen HIBOR, as you know, at lower levels in Hong Kong recently. That has certainly helped. I think one, though, has to look at the sort of deposit income as well as the mortgage income to get the overall picture within the business, because there are clearly two components, money in and money out to this. I think when you look at those two together, you get a better collective picture.

Joe Dickerson
Analyst, Jefferies

Thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Nick Lord from Morgan Stanley. Please ask your question. Your line is now open.

Nick Lord
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you very much. Thank you for taking the question. Couple of questions for me. Just in terms of the guidance, obviously, on credit quality, and I accept what you said about a lot of uncertainty on that for the H2. Could you just talk us through what some of the stress points might be that would lead that outcome to be different? Is it that we end up having a second wave and GDP recovery ends up taking much longer than you anticipate? Is it that we end up finding that the secondary effects of lockdowns and the like impact more sectors than you currently identified as troubled? I'm just trying to work out how you're sort of thinking about the flex factors. My second question is much more detailed and smaller in nature.

You mentioned in the presentation that ASEAN revenues were benefiting from strong income in India and Indonesia. I just wonder if you could elaborate a little bit more on what exactly was driving that.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Sure. Thanks, Nick. I'll take a first stab at that, then we'll have some color. During the Q4 results, we called out two, we call it incremental tail risks, beyond what we thought was entirely embedded into our provisioning in regard to our ECLs. Those were the possibility of an extended period of very low oil prices. As you recall, at that point the oil price was down around $20 a barrel. Second was the possibility that the promised state support for the aviation sector might not be forthcoming. For now, as we go through Q2, we see that, of course, the price of oil has a little bit more than doubled. It's still quite low, but we've moved further away from that tail risk. It doesn't mean that it's not there. We all recognize how volatile that can be.

We're further away from the current scenario. Second, the aviation sector, whilst the industry itself is still under tremendous pressure, the state support that had been mooted or discussed has been to some degree forthcoming. A number of flight carriers have either been recapitalized or they've had guarantees for deposits or other forms of support. Those two particular tail risks feel like they're further away than they were when we called them out in Q1 of this year. When we look at the sensitivities this year, it's the obvious one. The big unknown is how consumers who are operating under debt payment holidays right now, how they respond to the lifting of those holidays. We've called out a number of things that are encouraging. We've returned to something much closer to normal delinquency levels in China and Hong Kong.

We also know that those were countries where the economic impact was also relatively modest given the success of the repayment efforts. That's not the case in some of our other markets. We'll just have to see, and understand as the data comes in, how our clients in Bangladesh and India and across Africa respond to the lifting of payment holidays. We shouldn't assume that the encouraging results from China and Hong Kong are going to be replicated entirely from those markets. That's one incremental stress and sensitivity and uncertainty. Clearly on the corporate side, we've got large swathes of the corporate universe that are under cash flow pressure. The capital markets have been wide open. That's allowed most of our larger clients to top up their cash reserves to the extent that they needed to at all.

To the extent that the economic malaise is extended significantly, we would certainly expect to see some troubles emerge from there. We think we're properly provided, given the modeling that we've done and the ECL, both the base level ECL and then the overlays that we've applied. Of course, if things are worse than what we modeled in terms of macroeconomic variables, then we'd expect to have some incremental losses. Sorry. You asked about India and Indonesia.

Nick Lord
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yeah.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

I'm going to quickly comment there, and then have color on all the above. India has been a fantastic recovery story for us. Obviously, the current environment in India is quite negative. We've been restructuring that business over the past three years very aggressively, and we've had good growth in our priority client income. We've had good growth in our global subsidiaries income. We had a strong H1 of the year in financial markets as well. We've always had and continue to have a very strong large cap corporate business. We've done that while consistently ratcheting down expenses and reducing our low returning RWAs by over a third. This is just a good, encouraging underlying recovery story to the point where India is now, again, a healthy contributor to the group. Indonesia, as you know, and you commented, Andy commented as well, we sold Permata.

We have refocused our relatively small retail business on the affluent client segment, and that's done quite well in the early part of the year. We have a very strong corporate franchise in Indonesia, which performed well in the first part of the year. Again, financial markets were healthy. Andy, you have more color on the credit risks and on the ASEAN markets.

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Yeah. Just briefly, at risk of repetition, I think the success of lockdowns being lifted is going to be hugely influential in terms of the credit impairment forecast going forward. The quicker it is done, the more businesses that are a bit fragile will survive, the less impairments we'll have, the more employment there will be. It goes without saying that the lifting of the lockdowns, I think, is going to be hugely significant there. India and Indonesia, just echoing what Bill has said, I think it is the sum of many small parts. A lot of things we've been doing in both markets over a period of time. The strength in both of them was more on the corporate side than on the retail side. It spanned across corporate finance in parts of India. Financial markets, generally transaction banking was actually strong as well.

It was, as ever, when you get significant outperformance, it was not one single thing. It really was right the way across the board, but particularly in the corporate side of those two markets.

Nick Lord
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Aman Rakkar from Barclays. Please ask your question. Your line is now open.

Aman Rakkar
Analyst, Barclays

Morning, gents. Hopefully, you can hear me okay. Just a quick one on impairments. I think, either sort of combination of Q2 beat and kind of what you're telling us about the H2, you clearly think provisions are going to come in lower than where the Street is for full year 2020. I was kind of interested in when you're thinking about extending that view into 2021. That more positive stance on provisions versus where the Street is currently. Is that just a matter of phasing and kind of what you might be doing in terms of front loading versus losses that may actually come through? Is it actually just that you think the credit quality in your book is actually just better than where the Street thinks?

Basically, when you look at the $5 billion of impairment charge over 2020 and 2021, is that a number that you think you kind of firmly disagree with? I guess as part of that, could you update us on some of the assumptions that you're making around targeted support for some of the sectors in your footprint? I think at Q1 you were talking about some of the national airline carriers. I don't know if you've expanded that or get an updated view on that would be really helpful. Thank you.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Thanks, Aman. I think I take a good crack, and Andy will have color and his own thoughts. We've done a good amount of work to reposition our balance sheet over the past five years. The heavy lifting was done early on and generated some losses. Subsequently, we've been refining the portfolio. We've been reducing our concentrations and improving the percentage that's investment grade. We came into this unexpected crisis in pretty good shape. Not perfect shape as we indicated and showed in Q1. Problems will still come up. We feel very good about the quality of the book. Can't comment on the consensus or what you guys have all built into your models. What we can say is that with current economic conditions sort of progressing along the lines of what we expect.

With the level of effectiveness of the government programs to support the economy through the pandemic, we think H2 of the year, earnings will be below H1 of the year. That's probably about as far as we can go. What that fundamentally reflects is the quality of our book with the efficacy of our underwriting process over the past couple of years. Also the realization that there will be problems, which is why we've taken the step of topping up our model-based reserves with a substantial management overlay. I think with that, I'll hand over to Andy.

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Yeah. I'd just add, I think forward forecasting with accuracy, the credit impairment certainly going out beyond this year is quite tricky. Back to the answer to the previous question, if you can say how effective the lockdown lift-off will be country by country, then off that one could predict slightly more accurately what is going to happen on the credit impairment. It is fair to say that particularly the stage 1, stage 2 provisioning is under IFRS 9, slightly more procyclical, and therefore will take more of those charges earlier, which is what's happened the last couple of quarters. Macroeconomic variables obviously have deteriorated over the H1 of this year. Let's hope that they don't deteriorate as much as we go forwards. The stage 3, the visible exposures, is just a little bit sort of up and down.

We had a higher charge in Q1, particularly because of a couple of situations in the corporate part of the book. We didn't have new names in Q2, which is good. Q3 and Q4, again, will depend upon just how economies start to normalize over a period of time. I hope the $5 billion number over two years would prove to be a very full number and that we could be lower than it, but I think it will be very difficult at this stage to be confident in any predictions on that front.

Aman Rakkar
Analyst, Barclays

Perfect. Just on the assumptions for certain sectors, have you changed any of your assumptions there?

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

No.

Aman Rakkar
Analyst, Barclays

All right.

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

The credit impairment is done very much on a client-by-client basis. Where we have got, let's take aviation, if there has been a bailout, then we will take that into account in looking at the particular client. If there hasn't been, then we'll obviously look at the fact pattern there. The sectors that are more vulnerable that we highlighted at Q1, we continue to be very focused upon those. Those get, as you would expect, very close attention on a day-to-day basis. In terms of provisioning, the approach is very much fact-based. Where we have got facts, where we think there is cause of concern, we will provision. If we don't have any facts for it, but we think there could be something, we have put some management override in.

Where we're comfortable with client situations, then we would leave them as they are for the time being.

Aman Rakkar
Analyst, Barclays

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Fahed Kunwar from Redburn. Please ask your question. Your line is now open. Fahed Kunwar, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Looks like Fahed may be on mute. Maybe we move on to the next question, and if Fahed is able to reconnect, we can take that question later.

Operator

Thanks a lot. That was the last audio question. Please continue.

Speaker 12

Bill, Andy.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Niluka, do we have any questions online?

Speaker 12

Yes. Bill, Andy, there's a question on the webcast from Ronit Ghose of Citi. How do you think about capital returns in terms of the relative merits of dividends versus buybacks, given the large discount to book value? Should we think about one-off gains used for buybacks or maybe more of a 50/50 split on how capital is returned, assuming you have that flexibility in 2021, given market conditions, et cetera?

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Thanks for the question, Ronit. First thing, obviously, is to get to the point where we're willing and able to return capital at all. That is, as you know, we'll follow discussions that we have with our regulator, with the PRA, together with our own sense of what the opportunities are. Then as we return capital, that the nature of dividends versus other forms of return, share buybacks or elsewhere. You know where we were before the pandemic struck. We had a reasonably predictable dividend against earnings, and we had a stock buyback program, which we removed. We're now above the top end of our capital range. It's a comfortable place to be, given the uncertainty of the world.

As we indicated in our comms, we fully intend to reach a 13%-14% CET1 range when we return to a more normal environment, and I'll speculate when that moment will come. We will be more color on nature of capital return as we get to the point of actually returning capital. I'll hand over to Andy for his views.

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Yeah. Let's first get to the point where we have got confidence in the outlook and more predictability, particularly on credit impairments. Clearly, obviously, regulators will have a view on it. I think in the long term, philosophically, we're saying, number one, where we can grow the business, we should invest money to do that. Number two, where there is money to actually return, then first priority should be to have a sort of continuum on a dividend flow. If there are, from time to time, amounts of excess capital, we could look at share buybacks in that instance. I'd see it as being that sort of three-step thought process.

Bill Winters
Group Chief Executive, Standard Chartered

Niluka, are there any other questions on the webcast or any other questions on the line? I'll take that as a no. Great. Thanks. Thanks, everybody, for taking this time to understand the progress we're making. As Andy and I both said, we're very proud of the progress that we've made. We remain concerned, obviously, about the environment, but we think we're about as well positioned as we could be as we go into this. We'll keep you posted. Thanks again, and have a good rest of week.

Andy Halford
Group Chief Financial Officer, Standard Chartered

Thank you.