Ajax Engineering Limited (NSE:AJAXENGG)
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Sep 11, 2026, 3:30 PM IST
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Aug 28, 2026

Summary

Q2 FY 2026 saw 48% revenue growth year-over-year, driven by SLCM segment strength and a large contract, but margins declined due to higher costs and aggressive pricing. Market share rebounded to 71% YTD, and full-year EBITDA margin is expected to fall by 150-200 bps.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Q2 and H1 FY 2026 earnings conference call of Ajax Engineering Limited. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. Before we begin, I would like to point out that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements about the company which are based on the beliefs, opinions, and expectations of the company as on date of this call.

These statements are not the guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Shubhabrata Saha, Managing Director and CEO of Ajax Engineering Limited. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for joining us on Ajax Engineering Limited Q2 and H1 FY 2026 earnings conference call. Along with me on the call, we have Mr. Tuhin Basu and SGA, our investor relations partner. We have uploaded our results and investor presentation on the stock exchanges and our website. I hope everybody has had an opportunity to go through the same. Before we dive into this quarter's performance, I'd like to take a moment to reflect on Ajax's journey. Throughout its history of over three decades, Ajax has time and again demonstrated resilience and adaptability through challenging business cycles. Overcoming critical disruptions like demonetization, introduction of GST, the COVID-19 pandemic, election cycles in center and states, changes in emission regulations, sector cyclicality, et cetera. Over the past decade or so, Ajax has delivered steady growth, clocking an impressive 18% CAGR.

This is a testament to our unwavering focus on operational preparedness, precise execution, and financial discipline, the factors that not only define us, but also continue to empower us to emerge from adversity stronger than ever before. The last year or so has been no different in terms of the external challenges we faced. Yet, true to spirit, Ajax has continued to navigate these headwinds with focus and resilience. We observed a slowdown in the pace of on-ground execution of infrastructure projects, which in turn led to cash flow delays for our customers and subsequent deferment of incremental demand. Additionally, the extended monsoon in the last quarter and the industry's transition to the new emission norms beginning July 2025 have added to further complexity. Taken together, these factors have collectively impacted the industry performance.

Riding on our situational awareness, operational preparedness, and technology-driven manufacturing capabilities, we were ready ahead of the curve and launched our new CEV 5 machines in Q4 of FY 2025. The CEV 4 inventory was entirely sold out before the regulatory deadline of the 30th of June 2025. In the last couple of quarters, we've witnessed some unsustainable business practices in the industry. While we have continued to maintain our financial discipline through all of that, we've seen healthy sales momentum too. As called out earlier, given the multiple factors that have impacted the industry in the last few quarters, our approach with the new CEV 5 machines was to introduce them to the market ahead of time, gather feedback, and assess customer acceptance.

Despite the cost of production of the CEV 5 machines going up considerably compared to the older emission machines, we chose not to take any price hikes in the last couple of quarters. Instead, we prioritized extensive on-ground testing of our product under real-world conditions and evaluate the real-time product performance with customer response. With the monsoon season now behind us, we anticipate the usual improvement in demand momentum during the second half of the year. As only the new CEV 5 machines are now available in the market, this period will provide valuable insights into adoption trends and pace of uptake for these models. These insights will be critical in enabling us to make well-informed pricing decisions. Our pricing strategy will be carefully calibrated, taking into account market response and prevailing industry practices. We've been steadily expanding our dealer network with the objective of deepening our penetration and availability.

Let me now take you through the financial performance for the quarter and half year ended September 2025. Speaking about the quarter first. Revenue in Q2 FY 2026 grew by 48% on a year-on-year basis and came to INR 445 crores. This was driven by the strong growth in the SLCM segment. During the quarter, SLCM volume and revenue grew by 51% and 55% year-on-year, respectively, on the back of the delivery of a larger sized contract during the quarter. Non-SLCM volume and revenue grew by 8% and 12% year-on-year respectively. Spares and services revenue in Q2 grew by 26% year-on-year. EBITDA for Q2 FY 2026 stood at INR 45 crores, growing by about 16% year-on-year. EBITDA margin declined by about 280 basis points and came to 10.2%. The hit on the gross margin has slowed down to the EBITDA.

A large part of the impact on the gross margin is on account of the cost of the increase in production of the new CEV 5 machines. Profit after tax for the quarter stood at INR 39 crores. Coming to the first half performance. Revenue for H1 FY 2026 stood at INR 911 crores, reflecting a growth of 18% year-on-year. This is broadly in line with our historical growth rate. SLCM volume and revenue in H1 grew by 20% and 21% respectively on a year-on-year basis. Non-SLCM volume in H1 FY 2026 grew by 18% on a year-on-year basis. Spares and services revenue grew by 16% year-on-year in H1 FY 2026. EBITDA for H1 FY 2026 stood at about INR 107 crores, declining by 11% on a year-on-year basis. EBITDA margin for H1 FY 2026 stood at 11.7%, contracting by 380 basis points year-on-year.

Again, the impact on EBITDA is driven by the hit at the gross margin level, which was on the back of increased cost of production and revenue and product mix change. We had sales of slip-form paver in H1 of last year, which is not there this year. Pavers are high ticket size and high margin products. Despite the significant impact on the gross margin level, we have cushioned the impact on EBITDA through operating leverage and cost optimization. With volumes expected to pick up as they do in the second half of the year, we expect an improvement in the margin profile owing to the operating leverage. We also anticipate some price adjustments, which will also aid the margins in H2.

Nonetheless, as we have called out earlier, on a full year basis for FY 2026, we see an EBITDA margin decline of around 150 basis points- 200 basis points compared to FY 2025. Despite the impact on profitability and the ongoing CapEx on our new manufacturing facility, we continue to maintain strong financial discipline and efficient capital allocation. Our return ratios continue to be resilient. Our return on invested capital is upwards of 40%. We continue to maintain a strong balance sheet. With the CEV 4 inventory sold, our cash flow in H1 FY 2026 has normalized as well. Short-term road bumps like these are typical in our industry, and Ajax has consistently demonstrated the ability to navigate such phases while maintaining steady performance. As we have emphasized in the past, this business is best viewed on an annualized basis rather than quarterly.

Structurally, we remain confident in the longer-term growth trajectory of our business. India's substantial infrastructure development needs, coupled with the shift towards mechanized construction and completing equipment, will continue to drive steady demand, which positions Ajax well for sustained growth. Our long-term outlook on both growth and profitability remains firmly intact. We remain committed to maintaining our leadership position in the SLCM segment while also building strong capabilities in the non-SLCM space. Operational excellence and financial discipline remain central to our strategy. We continue to have a robust cash position, ensuring considerable financial muscle to pursue our growth ambitions. With this, I would like to open the floor for questions. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone phone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. We will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question comes from the line of Raghunandhan from Nuvama Research. Please go ahead.

Raghunandhan NL
Analyst, Nuvama Research

Congratulations, sir, on strong performance in Q2. It is a positive surprise to be beat on revenue, such a strong revenue performance. Firstly, the large contract order, can you provide some details on the size? Is it executed in Q2, or is it pending for coming quarter as well? Also, how would be the profitability for this large?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Hi, Raghu. Good morning. Shubhabrata on this side, and thank you for, let us say, your opening statements on the performance. The large order was executed completely in Q2. There is no spillover which is expected in the second half of the year. It was for SLCMs and 110+ machines were as part of a corporate government authority tender. This was a very marquee project, and given the size of the contract and such a large order volume, there was competitive pricing.

Ajax Engineering Limited felt that it has been inspected, felt that it, A, contributes to the nation building and also forms a grip on these large orders. This was done at, let us say, far more aggressive pricing. As you can understand, we will not be able to divulge of how much of it that further it is from than our average price. But I would just say that this was on a far aggressive pricing, which obviously played out in the margin corridors of this particular quarter.

Raghunandhan NL
Analyst, Nuvama Research

Thank you, sir. Post the transition to CEV 5 for H2, how do you see the on-ground demand environment? What kind of a growth would you expect for SLCM and non-SLCM in H2?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I think I'll take that question, Raghu. I think first things first, the product has stood out very well. As you would imagine that 30% of our business volume in Q4 of last year and 90% of our business volume in Q1 this year was CEV 5. So we were kind of well placed to have placed the product ahead of most of our competition in this segment. Thankfully, the product has turned out very well. There aren't any hiccups, any issues that we've noticed so far in the way the people have operated the machine on ground. As far as demand is concerned, as you would know that between H1 and H2, there is a traditional upswing that happens in H2, and we hope that the same kind of an upswing will happen.

As things stand in some of the larger states, we would anticipate that the state government would put incredible sense focus in driving the pace of execution of projects as much as the cash flow back to the contractors, which will provide the necessary confidence to them to be able to shore up the business. It typically so happens that both for SLCM as well as for the non-SLCM portfolio, H2 is typically a good part of the year. So we hope that things start changing a bit on the ground, particularly in terms of the cash flows back to the contractor.

Raghunandhan NL
Analyst, Nuvama Research

Thank you. Can you also talk about the new product, smaller SLCM? How is the initial response? How do you see the availability improving across the country? Also your thoughts on the upcoming products in non-SLCM space.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yeah. So as far as the smaller product is concerned, I think as you would know that we've been testing this out in a niche market for some time. We now feel confident that, look, the product can be extended across at least four, five, six key markets in the country. We are preparing ground to make sure that we start initial distribution of some of these in the second half of the year. We've seen that the product has turned out very well, particularly to those people who have used it in the niche market across a wide range of applications, which I think gives us confidence to be able to place it in some of the other select markets as we move forward into the second half of the year.

As far as the non-SLCMs are concerned, I think our focus has been on pumps, which is both boom pumps and concrete pumps, and on the other side, the matching plants. We hope that we will continue, in terms of building connect, and also conversion with our customers across the country. Hopefully even that bit based on the execution of new projects as well as coming back to contractors will also help.

Raghunandhan NL
Analyst, Nuvama Research

Very helpful, sir. Thank you so much.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Thanks, Raghu.

Operator

Thank you. Participants, if you wish to ask questions, you may press star and one. The next question comes from the line of Pritesh from Lucky Investments. Please go ahead.

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

Sir, just a clarification. First, you would have sold the old machines in this quarter? All the machines sold in this quarter will be new machines, the new emission norm machine.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

All the new machines, Pritesh.

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

Okay.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Even in Q1, we have mentioned that 80% + has come from new machines, so all new machines.

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

Okay. On the pricing, if you had to offset the whole impact of the cost, is it fair to assume that we would have to take about 4%-5% price hike?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

We will have to take. Yes, we have to take about 4 percentage points price increase, which we had maintained in the last conversation also that we will test this in Q3 onwards. Not done till Q2 is all I can say.

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

When you have a guidance of about 150 basis points-200 basis points impact on the margin on a year-over-year basis, where your H1 is 10, then a 350 basis point-400 basis point drop. Is it fair to assume that all these price increases should have been taken by now for the H2 margin? Basically, it means what? It means H2 margin reverting back to the mean. It should have been taken, the price increase. Is this assessment correct?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Not completely.

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

I am just trying to calculate from the guidance.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

No, I understand. The guidance has been given by me, so I'll probably just wait. The H1, first of all, H1 EBITDA margin is 11.7%, not 10.2%. I think you're referring to the quarter when you're referring to 10.2%. So we're round about 12%. For us to get to in the range of 13% or thereabout on the EBITDA, we will have to grow close to about 14.5% - 15% for the rest of the year. As you are aware that H1 H2 volumes also skew differently in an industry than the operating leverage plus the pricing increase which we are talking about, both should allow us to get to that margin corridor for H.

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

Okay. Another observation, I'll seek your comments. When I looked at your H1 number, even your quarter two number, the volume growth has been fairly strong, much stronger than what it is for you. Also when I looked at the other construction equipment industry, construction equipment type, I didn't see this kind of traction. So if you would want to shed light on specifically on SLCM, what's happening with space. A lot of us complained about that of longer monsoons or construction work was not happening and people didn't buy equipment. But when I look at your numbers, it's quite contrary. Any comments you want to share there?

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I will see one thing and I'll make a comment then also defer it to Shubha for let's say adding on to it. If you look at H1 to H1. And we have always maintained that it's best that we look at it on YTD basis, our business rather than sequentially from that standpoint. If you look at H1 to H1, we went up by 20% SLCM. I'm talking about SLCM specifically, and 2,300 machines were sold. I mentioned that about 100 or 110- odd machines came from one single order, which obviously added about 5 percentage points to the growth. Even if you take that aside, it's about 15% growth, and we had a very muted Q2 last year, given it was on the back of immediately, the election had followed, following immediate elections. The ordering was tepid.

While monsoon, of course, plays a part and monsoon plays a huge part on the retail offtake which has an impact on our, let's say, cash churn. The demand of Q2 this year is a normal Q2 this year versus, let's say, election impacted Q2. That obviously helped in having more flatlining of the volume between Q1, Q2. If you see Q1 this year versus Q2 this year also the volume is flatlined. It's more of a normal Q2 rather than it's election impacted Q2. That helped on the growth as well. At your end.

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

Okay. I don't have the number before that, but it's okay. The other thing I just missed. Did you take the next price hike now, or it is supposed to be implemented?

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

As I said, we will test waters. We'll not like to delve more on our public call on this.

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

Okay. Lastly, do you want to call out, will you on a full year basis, you will revert to the CAGR volume growth?

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I think, we are talking about top line CAGR volume if I hear, because the voice is slightly-

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

Yeah, volume. My reference is volume CAGR and top line CAGR.

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Volume CAGR, I think we had mentioned even in the previous conversations that FY 2025 to 2026, we expect the volume CAGR to be more, let's say early double digits, not the long term CAGR volume, for CAGR growth of 18% on a full year basis.

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

Okay. Despite what you have seen in H1.

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yes.

Pritesh Chheda
Analyst, Lucky Investments

Okay. Thank you very much.

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Raashi from Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Raashi Chopra
Analyst, Citigroup

Thank you. You had mentioned in your initial remarks that you've dismissed some unfavorable industry practices during the quarter. Could you elaborate on that a bit, please?

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Raashi, there was, let's say, inventory built up. People have adopted different strategies. Ajax has adopted a strategy of early introduction of the machine and also having a stock which was just enough to get the CEV 4 out in time and have the demand getting shored up by CEV 5. We felt that's the right strategy purely because we wanted to test out the machines longer in the market before we go for price rise, et cetera. Some of the other competition had a different take on it. They shored a lot more CEV 4 and they were running against time. And the kind of pricing strategy and commercial strategy they adopted to get these machines liquidated were not only, let's say, substandard from margin corridors or commercial acumen.

It was also industry practices which you don't want to get into and see that the industry sways in that direction. Besides that, we won't be able to quantify the extent of discount, et cetera, which they gave to get their inventories out. But yes, that's what Shubha was referring to. Do you have anything more?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yeah. Gradually, practice as per the emission standard set by the government, sale and registration ends on a specific date. The spillover of some of these things were also seen by us. How they did, why they did, are questions that we cannot answer. But it has been seen to have happened.

Raashi Chopra
Analyst, Citigroup

Understood. All right. I'm on market share. So you were at 69% in the last quarter. You've gotten it to 71%. What was this number last year? Was it 75%?

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yeah. One thing fallout here is that the BRO machines are not registered. I mean, the last contract machines are not registered, given that it was a quasi-government listing, the registration won't happen. We again go back to our retail market share, and it's reported the numbers consistent with our previous reporting. There is a slight, the exact market share, if you calculate that for an industry volume this time, it may not really show up.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Even for the future, BRO machines are excluded.

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yeah

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

from registration, so it will not show up in the launch.

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

In Q2, sorry, in Q1, we were, let's say, high 60s. What has happened in the last two months of this particular quarter, we are more in the range of 80% on the market share to get to the 71. As Shubha mentioned, and I mentioned previously, there were certain practices which we didn't want to get into from a pricing decision. We took a market share hit in the first quarter, which was a conscious decision. Then in Q2, we have been able to shore up the market share around 80% in the last two months to get to the 71 on a full year YTD basis.

Raashi Chopra
Analyst, Citigroup

Is that 80%, will it also sustain through October?

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Sorry?

Raashi Chopra
Analyst, Citigroup

Did you have 80% in October as well?

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yes. From the registration side, yes.

Raashi Chopra
Analyst, Citigroup

Okay. What did you say for the, I do not know if I said it, and I missed it, the full year volume number expectation for SLCM?

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

What I mentioned to, let's say, Pritesh also is that we are expecting an early double-digit growth, not let's say, a long-term averages of CAGR for this year on the volume.

Raashi Chopra
Analyst, Citigroup

Got it. Just last question for you, what is the cash balance currently?

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Cash balance in investments, we have about INR 710 crores, and our liquid cash balance was about INR 35 crores, INR 37 crores .

Raashi Chopra
Analyst, Citigroup

Got it. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Mahesh Patil from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

Mahesh Patil
Analyst, ICICI Securities

Yeah. Hi, sir. Sir, you mentioned some issues in the construction activity in the first half. How do you see it in the October, November and the coming months, like in H2? How do you see it picking up? What are the issues, some payment related issues you highlighted. What do you think can help this get better?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

First of all, Mr. Patil, I cannot speak on behalf of what the government will do. We always anticipate that there is a good, strong pull in the second half of the year. You know for a fact that this industry operates almost like a 40-60 between H1 and H2, and we hope that the government pulls back on its act in terms of execution of projects as much as the cash flows that are pending as far as contracts are concerned. I think some of the larger state-based can get their act together on some of this, which normally happens in the second half of the year. It will all go well for everyone.

Mahesh Patil
Analyst, ICICI Securities

Okay, sir. And sir, I think I missed it. Have we taken the price hike in this quarter, Q3, or we are planning to do it in Q4?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

We said that we are trying, we have, let's say, started to have the conversations in Q3. I would not like to pre-empt what we are doing in Q3 before Q3 is completed.

Mahesh Patil
Analyst, ICICI Securities

Okay. So we are likely to see the impact in Q4 only, right? If at all taken.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

You can infer, but I think I made the statement very clearly.

Mahesh Patil
Analyst, ICICI Securities

Okay, sir. Thank you.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Suraj Malu from Catamaran. Please go ahead.

Suraj Malu
Analyst, Catamaran

Thank you so much. Sir, last year we understand that there was election and hence the central spending from the government was on the lower end, right? What would be the key attributes or the reasons for this lower government spend?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I think you are more intelligent than I can be on this subject. I think there are multiple things that the government has had to contend with. Public memory becomes very short. Only about a few months ago, we were really under what one calls the four-day war, but wars are very expensive as such. Second is, I think India was also making sure that in terms of the geo-economic situation and more than just the geopolitics, I think to make sure that it keeps its cash reserves strong, treasury strong, and so on and so forth. I can only anticipate these are the kind of things that would have happened in the short run.

As far as states are concerned, I think as you are fully aware that some of the states that went into elections in the last couple of years had made certain promises in the social sector, and some of that has obviously come home to roost as far as cash flows are concerned.

Suraj Malu
Analyst, Catamaran

Right. How do you see this panning out, sir, going forward?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I think clearly the longer-term subject of infrastructure development in the country continues to remain intact. I think these short-term things will happen from time to time, and I would anticipate that the second half for us generally is a better half. We hope that some of these things will remain there sooner than later.

Suraj Malu
Analyst, Catamaran

Got it. Sir, typically, at your dealer level, in the past, what has been the average inventory holding day, and what has it been in this quarter?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Typically it would be less about between two to three weeks at the dealer and about two weeks at our end from the finished goods inventory. This time as the dealer, it has inched more towards a month plus.

Suraj Malu
Analyst, Catamaran

That can impact in this quarter then because already the inventories are higher at the dealer.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I think this- Not necessarily. I mean, inventories have been higher even, let's say, in certain other previous quarters, but the quarter upstate impact impacted because the retail also happens then at a faster pace. It's not really directly correlated.

Suraj Malu
Analyst, Catamaran

Understood, sir. Got it. Just last one thing. I do not expect you to give out any numbers as you have already mentioned, but if I look at quarter-on-quarter, the average selling price in the SLCM, that has increased by, sorry, not quarter-on-quarter. If I look at YOY, just 3%. Whereas you mentioned that there was a large contract where the average selling price was very low, let's say, relatively. Is it fair to assume that you have already taken some price increase in the retail segment, and hence the average selling price is at the same level?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I think we have made enough comment on pricing, so I would not again reiterate what has been previously stated. You have to recognize that our average selling price is across all our SLCM variants, which go from 3 cu m to 4.8 cu m . Sometimes the ASP from different quarters or different time periods has a bearing in terms of what volume has been sold more or less, and that can pan out. That has got nothing to do with an ASP increase at an SP or a model.

Suraj Malu
Analyst, Catamaran

Got it, sir. Thank you very much.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

If you have sold more for one and two, then obviously you see that as an ASP increase, but that is not really a SKU-wise pricing increase.

Suraj Malu
Analyst, Catamaran

Right. Got it. Thank you very much.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Understood.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Lakshmi Narayanan from Tunga Investments. Please go ahead.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Thank you. I have a couple of questions. Just want to understand how do you plan for your business start of the year? What is the kind of demand planning you do, given that you have a high retail, sorry, a dealer mix, and you have to rely on them, I believe. So how do you plan for it, and how do you ensure that you don't under plan or over plan the demand? The second question is that you wanted to get into the B2B business and how that is shaping up. Third question is that, do we have any discounts we give in the channel? What is the price difference between you and the next player? The other question is that which states are actually going faster for you?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Sorry, you will have to repeat all the four questions because it will be difficult for us to address it.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Yeah. I think the first question. I will go one by one. The first question is that at the start of the year, how do you do your demand planning, given that you rely significantly on the sales through the dealer network? Therefore, what is your plan to augment the B2B sales engine which you are revving up?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I want to first clarify, how are the two things?

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

No, they are independent because one is that how do you demand plan, and second is that if you want to have control of your demand through the B2B kind of a channel, how are you planning to do it? Those are independent questions.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I am still not very clear about what your question is, but be that as it may, I will still try to attempt it. As far as SLCM demand is concerned, we know the range of applications that are there. The nature and type of projects based on the provisions made by, let us say, state in their state budgets and also the center in the central budget. So basis that we get a reasonably good idea about what is going to happen in which state, what kind of application projects, et cetera. Basis that, the planning is broadly made. Having said that, I think the demand that comes in over the previous three months, it gives us a fair indication of how to go about it. So one is the annual plan, the other is a more relevant quarterly plan and a monthly plan.

We generally have a two-month rolling and a one-month firm kind of a forecast that we build based on the kind of demand that has come in the previous one month and two prior months. As far as dealers are concerned, from that context, it becomes that much more simpler because we know where the demand is emanating from and what kind of applications are coming through.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it. So your dealer does not actually generate demand for you, right? Or it is like a joint process that you and your dealer both generate demand?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

That is why I said, one is the annual plan, which is made more based on macro, and as far as the plan for the quarter and the month is concerned, it is based on what kind of demand is getting generated at each of the locations. I mentioned to you that there is a two-month rolling and one month firm, and this is based on what kind of demand has emanated from each of the locations from where there are dealers. We calibrate based on what the dealer is saying as much as what our people are noticing on ground demand. Similarly, we also have the classification of leads, which is hot, warm, cold, based on what is emanating from the market, and again that is the shorter term monthly allocations are made, if that helps.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it. Regarding your B2B business,

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

No, the B2B business is largely concentrated for the non-SLCM product portfolio. Hence, it is relatively easier to go about doing that because the cycles in this from lead to execution are much longer, and hence we know where things are happening and how much will happen in each of these areas. As far as B2B execution is concerned, the company executes it through its dealer by and large.

Because there is a need for installation service and so on, so.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it. The Border Roads Organisation stuff which you talked about is a B2B business, right? I believe. And you deliver directly.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

You cannot do it through the dealers there because it's a OEM-

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

tendering product. Yeah.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it. What kind of discount is I believe there is no discount. Just want to confirm that. What is the price difference between you and your next competitor?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Tuhin alluded to that a little while ago in terms of certain unsustainable practices that we've witnessed. If you go into that order, obviously, the difference will be quite substantial. But in general, I think we have consistently alluded that anywhere around 3%-4%, 5% differential exists between what prices we sell and what price our competition sells at.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it. The next question is that, how well you know your customer and in a sense that what is the mix of first timer/rental or a single equipment owner? Do you actually get granular details of that?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Sure. It is deja vu for me because through the entire period of the road shows and beyond, we've been consistently talking about first time buyers. We've been talking about the first time buyers growing through and becoming, let us say, a small or mid-size contractor, the mid-size contractor becoming a rental company and so on and so forth. It is in the ratio of almost one-third each, in each of these categories.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

We have a very large-- Because we've been the pioneer in this business, and we are happy to say that a lot of demand actually originates from there because the people love the machines that they've used. Because of the strong operating performance of the machine as well as the resale value, and the resale value is substantially higher than the nearest competitor, maybe in the range of about 10%- 15%, people come back to buy tracks. A lot of the demand emanates from the existing customer base there.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Okay, got it. Which states are growing faster for us, in the last six months or so? Can you be specific on which states are growing and why they are growing faster?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yeah, I think, we are present all over the country, right? There are certain states which have been impacted by way of demand. For example, the likes of Maharashtra has been impacted. Certain states like Karnataka have been impacted because some of these states have decided to put money behind social projects and so on and so forth. I think barring that, I think states like Bihar, et cetera, have caught up very significantly, as you will see that Bihar is going through an election. So the last one year, I think Bihar has been doing extremely well. U.P. has been doing extremely well. Some of the northern markets are fairing well. Gujarat has been doing exceedingly well on account of the fact that there's been a lot of solar-led application and so on and so forth. So all of these states are fine.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it. One last question. As we are half of the financial year, which areas have actually negatively surprised you from your own calibration of how you started the year?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

No negative surprises from what we had started of the year in terms of our expectation. I think you're speaking to us for the first time by the sound of the question. Whatever we planned out in terms of our margin corridor expectation, it has not changed since the road shows we have been, let's say, mid-October, the reviewing group, and even post that. So in that sense, we have been consistent in terms of the corridors we are mentioning. We have been consistent in terms of where we see the demand originating from. So no negative surprise.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it. Thank you.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

There could be just the liquidity challenges which we are seeing on the retail, but that comes in and that should get better as we progress.

Lakshmi Narayanan
Analyst, Tunga Investments

Got it. Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Nishant Rungta from Premji Invest. We may request participants to limit their questions to two per participant, as there are several participants waiting in the queue for their questions. Thank you. Mr. Nishant, please go ahead.

Nishant Rungta
Analyst, Premji Invest

Thank you so much. Tuhin is doing fantastic performance given how tough this quarter was supposed to be. I have a couple of questions.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Nishant, can you be a little louder? Your voice is not very audible to us.

Nishant Rungta
Analyst, Premji Invest

Sorry. Am I audible now?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Hello. It's still a bit faint, Nishant.

Nishant Rungta
Analyst, Premji Invest

Sorry. I am trying. Just in case I could come back in the queue in case it is not audible. But just wanted to

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

It is much better.

Nishant Rungta
Analyst, Premji Invest

Yeah. Fantastic quarter given how tough this quarter was supposed to be. I have a couple of questions for you. First is, how do you sort of think about juggling between market share and margins, both in the near term and medium term, given what is happening on pricing at this point in time, the difficulty that you are sort of facing in terms of taking price hikes and, obviously the competition being a bit irrational.

My second question is on spares and services revenue. That is one line item which we have been sort of watching for a while, and that is something that is coming in at a very high profitability. Are you sort of happy with the growth there, and what is the outlook to sort of prop up that revenue pool for you to offset some of the margin headwinds that you see in the core business? These are the two questions I had. Thanks a lot.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yeah. Thanks, Nishant. I think first things first, let me clarify that it's not one against the other, market share or margin. I think both are equally important for us, and we continue to strive to drive on both fronts. If you looked at what Tuhin was earlier mentioning in terms of market share in the recent term, say the last couple of months and so on and so forth, I think our market share has been inching closer to the 80% mark despite the intensity of competition. I have to say this, that I think since we launched our product, the CEV 5 product portfolio, in fourth quarter, 30% of our volumes in the fourth quarter came from that. 90% of our volume in the first quarter of this year came from that. Clearly the product is very well settled.

It is starting to gain much greater traction and acceptance with the people who have already had the CEV 4 product and now have tested the CEV 5 product as well as new customers. I think, those are the drivers that we will continue to work on. The third aspect as far as pricing is concerned, we've said this that looking at market response, product performance and so on and so forth, and taking a calibrated approach towards pricing. Between Q3 and Q4, I'm hopeful that things will look better. Finally, I think both demand uptick as well as payment practice on tractors will certainly improve the sentiments. If all these four come together, I think we should be closing in towards the kind of numbers that we've already spoken about.

Nishant Rungta
Analyst, Premji Invest

Very well. The second one on spares and services revenue. Thank you.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yeah. I think you must understand that the machine utilization in the second quarter, particularly because of the extended monsoon, has been impacted. To that extent, we would have loved to have a little higher growth as far as spares is concerned.

Nishant Rungta
Analyst, Premji Invest

And any strategic steps that you are taking to sort of prop that up, given your base of 30 odd thousand units in the market, this number could be much higher than what we see right now. Has there been any issues around spares services revenue sort of moving to competition or anywhere else with the Chinese products or spare parts. Has that been a point of worry for you?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

No, no. Nothing negative at all. Nothing is moving from us to any cheaper alternatives just because people feel that there is a cheaper alternative sitting out there, or we are losing opportunity because our dealers are not stocking and so on and so forth. I have to say this, that our on time in full, which is called the first fill rate, is being tracked here almost on a day-to-day basis. To that extent, we are running upwards of 90%, 92% and hence in terms of making the demand fulfilled from our dealers is being done very, very strongly. So I think we are not missing anything specific here, but I think just the machine utilization has a direct bearing on the quantum of spare parts with the extended monsoons in the second half. I think those numbers may have been slightly muted.

But I think as we go forward and machine utilization kicking up will certainly help us. As far as number of dealers, number of touchpoints is concerned, I think we are doing fairly well on that front.

Nishant Rungta
Analyst, Premji Invest

Perfect. If I might sort of squeeze in just one last data digging question.

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yeah.

Nishant Rungta
Analyst, Premji Invest

Cash flows have been again, robust, right? It has been a phenomenal work on working capital management. Just in this quarter, I see quite an inordinate buildup in receivables. You think that is just going to get liquidated very soon and we may have already seen that, but just your thoughts on that figure. Thank you.

Tuhin Basu
Former CFO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yeah. Nishant, on the receivable side, they are coming on a trailing 12 months. Of course, this we have seen an increase in the KPI which we reported also through that. This has got to do with the experienced delays on the retail uptake towards the end of the month of September. That has started to normalize and the cash flows have started to come in also. We feel that this will get normalized as the year progresses. So no concerns in terms of the health of the receivables per se on sitting in the balance sheet. The timing and we will talk it out soon.

Nishant Rungta
Analyst, Premji Invest

Yeah. Thanks, and I wish you guys very well. All the best.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Diya Jain from Sapphire Capital. Please go ahead.

Diya Jain
Analyst, Sapphire Capital

Hi, sir. Thank you for the opportunity. You mentioned that we will see a dip in the margin for the whole year FY 2026. Can you also comment on-

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Sorry, your voice is very faint. If you can be a bit louder or closer to the microphone would be helpful.

Diya Jain
Analyst, Sapphire Capital

Okay. Am I audible now?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yes, better. Please.

Diya Jain
Analyst, Sapphire Capital

Yes, sir. You mentioned that we will see a dip in the margin for FY 2026. Can you also comment on how our top line is going to grow for the whole year?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I think the question was asked and we had mentioned that we expect that to be early double digits on the top line, versus historical averages.

Diya Jain
Analyst, Sapphire Capital

Do we expect it to get better in FY 2027?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

We will not comment on FY 2027 at this point in time.

Diya Jain
Analyst, Sapphire Capital

Okay, sir. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Mayank Bhandari from Asian Markets Securities. Please go ahead.

Mayank Bhandari
Analyst, Asian Markets Securities

Sir, just checking on the recent GST cut that we have seen. Can it benefit us in any way going forward, as a lot of our cost is related to auto components?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

There's no impact to us, positive or negative. It's completely business as usual.

Mayank Bhandari
Analyst, Asian Markets Securities

Okay. What is the update on the CapEx that we're doing in the second plant, which we were supposed to complete by H2? For the full year, how much CapEx we anticipate?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

See, you will see that the CapEx is about INR 35 crores already. We expect another INR 10 crores, INR 10 crores- INR 15 crores for the full year for Hoskote, which is the fourth plant. The rains have been a bit of a dampener in terms of progress, and we are still targeting H2 closure. As you know, many of the government approvals required to function the plant takes a time a bit longer than one actually takes. But no hiccups there as such, and we are more than adequately cash provided to support the capital.

Mayank Bhandari
Analyst, Asian Markets Securities

Lastly, sir, if you could comment anything on the competition also within the SLCM space, since we have grown very sharply in this first quarter. What do you foresee in the market in terms of SLCM particularly?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

I think, in terms of the number of players has withstand. As you know that this has been a category where both domestic and international players have been around for quite some time. So the intensity of competition is nowhere less or more on stuff like that. We are keeping a very close watch, both in terms of the product performance of our competitors as much as their commercial policies. So far, so good. We haven't seen any new entrants. But yes, there are potentially people who may be looking at this category which I cannot speak at this point in time.

Mayank Bhandari
Analyst, Asian Markets Securities

This first half, how would the SLCM market would have grown? Any data point you could give?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Given that we are 70% of the market on H1, the market would have also been more in sync with our growth numbers on an H1 to H1 basis. That's all we can say. I must add here that there have been certain unsustainable business practices which may have resulted in us maybe having lesser retail registrations in a certain time span because of certain things that people have done. But as we mentioned earlier that in the last two, three months, we've seen our market share inching up closer to the 80% range. Which is a very clear thing that we are growing faster than some of our competitors at this point in time as well.

Mayank Bhandari
Analyst, Asian Markets Securities

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Mahesh Patil from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

Mahesh Patil
Analyst, ICICI Securities

My question is, so one clarification. If I look at the Vahan data and compared to that our Q2 numbers, the volumes are surprisingly high. Just wanted to get a clarification why there's so much difference in this quarter particularly. Also, if I look at the data again for October, there is significant dip across all the construction equipment. Again, given the monsoon is over, just wanted to understand your view on why October has been lower.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Yeah. I will just go back to the first part of your question. I had mentioned to another question that came in from one of your fellow analysts, and this was related to the practices that were there in the industry. I mentioned that the law allows you to sell and register within a certain stipulated timeframe, and it ends on that day. On the midnight of June 30, it had to end. However, we have seen that I cannot call it or label it at any other form other than unsustainable, which are not correct practices. But we have seen that happen from some of our competition, which is why the registration numbers may have looked the way they have looked, which is why it being hacked on the shares has happened.

As far as October is concerned, yes, the overall industry may have seen those kind of registration numbers that you are alluding to. But if you look at it, Ajax's numbers continue to be much stronger. I do not know which particular part you are referring to, because there are two sets of things. One is our market share and also the industry market share. If you look at the companies that have registration, other than excavators, anything that lies on the road will have registration.

So cranes will not have registration, excavators will not have. If you look at the list of those companies who made their product registered, obviously there will be some amount of decline in registration based on whatever we have been speaking about in terms of uptake and demand, payment patterns, and so on and so forth. The sentiment has to still pick up.

Mahesh Patil
Analyst, ICICI Securities

Okay, sir. Sir, we have talked a lot on FY 2026. What about FY 2027? How do you see the margins? I am not talking about the external factors, but maybe our internal factors like price rise, the new capacity coming in. What can we expect? Can we expect the margins to go back to FY 2025 level?

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Mahesh, I think the question was asked twice. I urge all of you guys to also hear in our answers from the previous questions. We are not going to comment on FY 2027 on this call.

Mahesh Patil
Analyst, ICICI Securities

Okay, sir. Thank you.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Due to time constraints, that was the last question for today's conference call. I now hand the conference over to the management of Ajax Engineering Limited for closing comments. Over to you, sir.

Shubhabrata Saha
Managing Director and CEO, Ajax Engineering Limited

Thank you all for joining us on today's call. We hope we've been able to address all your questions, but any further queries or clarifications, please feel free to connect with us or SGA, our investor relations partner. Thank you once again.

Operator

Thank you. On behalf of Ajax Engineering Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you all for joining us, and you may now disconnect your-