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Q3 24/25

Feb 11, 2025

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Ashoka Buildcon Limited Q3 FY25 earnings conference call hosted by Anand Rathi Share and Stock Brokers Limited. This conference call may contain forward-looking statements about the company, which are based on the beliefs, opinions, and expectations of the company as on date of this call. These statements are not the guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touchstone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Bhavin Modi from Anand Rathi. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Hello everyone. On behalf of Anand Rathi Institutional Equities, I extend a warm welcome to the Ashoka Buildcon Limited Q3 FY25 earnings conference call. We are pleased to have with us today Mr. Satish Parakh, Managing Director, and Mr. Paresh Mehta, Chief Financial Officer. Without further delay, I invite Mr. Satish Parakh, sir, to share his opening remarks, following which we will open the floor for a Q&A session. Over to you, sir.

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Thank you, Bhavin. Good afternoon, everyone. On behalf of Ashoka Buildcon Limited, I extend a warm welcome to everyone joining us today to discuss our business and financial results of Q3 and nine months ended 31st December 2024. On this call, we are joined by our CFO, Mr. Paresh Mehta, VP Accounts, Mr. Peeyush Jain, and SGA Investor Relations Advisor. Let me begin by giving an industry overview. India remains committed to advancing its major infrastructure projects, driving forward its remarkable growth trajectory. With the vast road networks spanning.

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Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

With the vast road networks spanning over 3.3 million kilometers, the country's road infrastructure plays a pivotal role in the development of key economic sectors. Notably, while national levels make up just 2% of the network, they extend over 66,500 kilometers, serving as a backbone of connectivity and economic progress. In the recent Union Budget 2025-2026, the government has reinforced its commitment to infrastructure by allocating INR 11.21 lakh crore to the sector. Additionally, an outlay of INR 1.5 lakh crore has been proposed for 50-year interest-free loans to states for capital expenditure and reforms. These measures aim to support rapid growth and a non-transport network across the country. The sector continues to build strong momentum, driven by ambitious government targets. This year, government aims to award around 12,900 kilometers of highway projects, a 50% increase from the previous year.

The Q2 saw an average over 600 kilometers awarded per month, while the Q3 witnessed even greater traction, with November alone recording 773 kilometers in awarded projects. Additionally, October 2024 set a record for electronic toll collection reaching INR 6,115 crores due to increasing travel during the festive season. Additionally, the Ministry of Road Transport and Highways is also prioritizing high-speed corridors while embracing technological advancement, particularly through the addition of artificial intelligence and infrastructure. This includes the implementation of automated and intelligent machine-headed construction to enhance efficiency and precision in national projects. Now coming to the company, Ashoka Concessions Limited, a subsidiary of the company, has entered into share purchase agreements with Indian Highway Concessions Trust, entirely for divestment of its five subsidiaries.

The aggregate enterprise value of the transaction is INR 5,718 crores, subject to adjustments for cash and debt, translating into an equity value of INR 2,539 crores. The company will acquire a 34% stake of equity of ACL from Macquarie and SBI Infrastructure Investments Private Limited and SBI Macquarie Infrastructure Trust for INR 1,526 crores. The company, along with its subsidiary Viva Highways Limited and ACL, has entered into an agreement with the investors, SPA, for the following transaction, which shall subject to completion of sale certain proceeds, assets of ACL and the company, thereby providing an exit to the investors from ACL post-acquisition of ACL securities held by investors. ACL would become fully owned subsidiary of the company with effect from the date of acquisition of ACL securities.

Another development is Ashoka Buildcon Limited and subsidiary Ashoka Consortium Limited have entered into agreements to sell their stake in several HAM project subsidiaries for an aggregate concession of INR 2,324 crores. Now, on the project front, let me update you on this. The company has received a provisional completion certificate of 39.07 km out of a total of 40.6 km. The project is executed by Ashoka Baswantpur Singnodi Road Private Limited and SPV, a fully owned subsidiary of the company. The company also received a letter of acceptance from MSRDC in October 2024 for an aggregate value of INR 2,309 crores. The company also received an LOA from BMC for a project of construction of flyover at T-junction on Sion-Panvel Highway in Maharashtra for a value of INR 1,126 crores, inclusive of GST. The company has also received three LOAs from MMRDA in October 2024, aggregating to INR 1,737 crores.

The letter of award and execution concession agreement with the National Highways Authority of India for the project of INR 1,391 crores in the state of West Bengal for a BOT-to-BOT HAM project. We have also received a notification of award for Madhya Pradesh Poorv Kshetra Vidyut Vitaran Company Limited for INR 192 crores. This is an EPC contract. Then, the company has also received execution of contract with Bangalore International Airport Limited. A bid accepted at INR 1,055 crores. This is an EPC project for construction of elevated taxiway systems, pavement, drainage, and ancillary buildings. As of 31st December 2024, our balance order book stands at INR 15,457 crores. Roads and railway projects comprise around INR 14,000 crores, which is 74% of the total order book. Among the road projects order book, HAM projects are to the tune of INR 2,020 crores, and EPC road projects are worth INR 9,663 crores. Railway is around INR 416 crores.

Power T&D accounts for 3,796 crores, which is approximately 23% of the total order book. The total building EPC segment is 562 crores, which is just 3% of the total order book. To conclude, let me say again that our primary focus remains on maintaining a sustainable EPC business in segments encompassing highways, railways, power transmission and distribution, as well as buildings. This is all from my side. I now request Mr. Paresh Mehta to present the financial performance. Thank you.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Thank you, sir. Good afternoon, everyone. Starting with the standalone numbers for Q3 and nine months FY2025, the total income for Q3 FY2025 stood at INR1,816 crores as compared to INR2,162 crores in Q3 FY2024, a degrowth of 16%. EBITDA for the quarter stood at INR187 crores, with EBITDA margin of 10.3%. PAT stood at INR61 crores for the quarter. For nine months FY2025, the total income stood at 5,175 crores as compared to 5,309 crores, a degrowth of 3%. EBITDA for the period stood at INR93 crores, a growth of 4%, with EBITDA margins improving by 60 basis points to 9.5%. PAT stood at INR137 crores for nine months FY2025. Our revenue contribution for each segment for Q3 FY2025 is as follows: Road EPC contributed 57.9%, Road HAM contributed 12.4%, Power EPC contributed 23.7%, Railways stood at 2.5%, and other segments like Building EPC and others contributed 3.4%.

Coming to the consolidated results, the total income for Q3 FY2025 stood at INR 2,426 crores as compared to INR2,699 crores in Q3 FY2024, a 10% degrowth. EBITDA for the quarter stood at INR 77 crores, a growth of 6% year-on-year. PBT grew by 62%, by INR 2,307 crores. For nine months FY2025, total income stood at INR 7,450 crores as compared to INR 6,867 crores in Q3 FY24, registering a growth of 8%. EBITDA for the quarter stood at INR 2,251 crores, a growth of 30% year-on-year. PBT stood at INR 1,074 crores, a growth of 137%.

During the quarter, the company and its subsidiary, Ashoka Consortium Limited, have entered into share subscription and purchase agreements and other transaction documents for the sale of its entire stake in five of its fully owned subsidiaries, BOT subsidiaries, which are engaged in construction and operating of road projects on a BOT basis, which is subject to completion of certain conditions precedent, including approval from lenders of the respective subsidiary and regulatory approvals. Considering the high probability of the sale transactions getting completed as per the Ind AS 105, the assets and liabilities of the subsidiaries have been classified as held for sale in the current quarter. Consequent to this, the amortization of intangible assets in these subsidiaries has been discontinued in the consolidated financial results from the date of classification as held for sale.

Further, the company has also recognized a deferred tax asset of INR424 crores on the difference between the carrying value of the net assets of such subsidiaries in the consolidated books and its tax base. Total consolidated debt as of 31st December 2024 stood at INR 6,847 crores. The standalone debt is at INR1,466 crores, which comprises INR107 crores of equipment term loan, INR1,059 crores of working capital loan, and NCDs of INR300 crores. In Q3 FY2025, in our BOT division, the company recorded a gross total collection of INR331 crores as against INR314 crores in Q3 FY2024, recording a growth of 5%. With this, now we open the floor for questions and answers. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-tone phone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. Again, you may press star and one to ask a question now. Our first question comes from the line of Jain from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

Jainam Jain
Industrial Trainee, ICICI Securities

Thank you for the opportunity. So my first question is, what is the order pipeline which we are seeing right now in NHAI bidding?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah, so NHAI is now coming up with projects of 3,400 kilometers, which are already announced. That is NHAI plus MoRTH plus NHI DCL, amounting to around INR 111,000 crores. So these are projects which are in pipeline now.

Jainam Jain
Industrial Trainee, ICICI Securities

Okay. And sir, what would be the order inflow and revenue guidance for FY2026? Also, if you can give some margin guidance for FY2026.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

For FY2026, we expect, based on the order book received in the last quarter and expected orders in the coming quarters, we expect 10%-15% at least growth in the revenues over 25, with the margins to the tune of 10%-11%.

Jainam Jain
Industrial Trainee, ICICI Securities

And sir, order inflow guidance?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Order inflow guidance would be in the range of INR 12,000-INR 14,000 crores.

Jainam Jain
Industrial Trainee, ICICI Securities

Okay. That answers my question. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Vaibhav Shah from JM Financial Limited. Please go ahead.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Sir, what would be the guidance for FY2025 in terms of revenue, so it will be flattish, or we expect some decline?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

See, there would be. We'll try to achieve the last year numbers, but it could be short achieved by about 2% or 3%. I'm not sure. We'll just see by how the year ends, the next two months ends.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

EBITDA margins could be closer to 9% for Q4, similar as Q3?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah, for Q4, we'll try to achieve the same margins of Q3. Overall, mix would be in the range of 8.5%.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Okay. And sir, are there any one-offs in the standalone results in Q3? Did we receive any money from the deals in the standalone P&L?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

No, no, nothing on the deals in the standalone in Q3.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Okay. Okay. And sir, if you look at the results or debt, as per the results, come at around INR 2,050 odd crores, and PBT rate is around INR 1,460 odd crores. So what is the difference of the INR600 odd crores?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

This would be debt received from our associates, SPVs.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

So we are charging the interest also on that, right?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

For debt received from SPVs, we are marginally charging interest.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

What would be the interest rate, sir?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

In the range of eight and a half to nine.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Sir, lastly, we look at the interest costs. There has been a sharp increase on a quarter-on-quarter basis. Has there been a rise in Mobilization Advances because debt has come off on a quarter-on-quarter basis?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah, so the Mobilization Advance has typically remained the same, though it has been more large amounts have been received in the last month, the month of December. But seeing the recovery of the Mobilization Advance also, it remains at INR 1,050 odd crores in both quarter-end September and quarter-end December. Besides the cost of finance going up, definitely money in unpaid revenue and debtors continues to be a bit high in the last quarter also, or and above September, which we expect to get all cleared by margin.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Okay. Sir, our guidance on equity investment for 26 and 27 for the new HAM that we have won?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah, so overall, our equity commitment, balanced equity commitment as of date is around INR380 crores, which is including the last HAM project which we got of approximately INR225 crores. So if you spread it over the years, by 2025 end, we'll spend around INR175 crores. 2025, 2026, INR112 crores, and 2026, 2027, INR93 crores.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Sir, lastly, if you look at the HAM project that you have won, so the EPC value appears quite high. INR 1,390 crores is the BPC, and EPC is INR 1,318 crores.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Right. So based on that, that's how we have bid for. So EPC will continue to have its own margin of 10%-11%, and they'll be higher at the SPV level also. Project cost would be in the range of INR 1,700 crores.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Okay. And sir, lastly, if you could give us a number that what is the total order inflows in terms of EPC value as till date?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

For the year?

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

For the year.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

INR9,000 crores approximately.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Okay. Thank you, sir. I will come back in the queue.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah.

Operator

Thank you. A reminder to all the participants, you may press star and one to ask a question. Next question comes from Bhavin Modi from Anand Rathi. Please go ahead.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Yeah, hello, sir. So this year, we saw most of the inflows coming from the EPC road side, and there was one from the HAM side. So how should we rate this? We are expecting more HAM to come with the turn cycle or focus has changed towards EPC and power transmission?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

So, Bhavin, now we are an all-round EPC player. So we'll have new builds from road projects, EPC, road HAM projects, railways, power, and buildings. So we are bidding in all these segments and also water. So now Ashoka has become a full-range EPC player with focus on EPC, and wherever we get an opportunity for PPP, we'll pick up some HAM projects, and there will be PPP opportunity, maybe in other sectors also.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Sir, how are you looking about the tendering uptake from NHAI and MORTH? Because generally, Q4 is a ramping up of awards. So are we also likely to see the same trend this year?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah, there is very much possibility that this March also we'll see a lot of bids. Like I said, 3,400 km, they are already in pipeline, which is amounting to INR 111,000 crores. Plus, there are a lot of other bids which may come up by March end. So a good amount of bidding should happen by March end, yeah.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

And, sir, some queries with respect to the monetization. So, what is the status of NHAI and lenders' approval with respect to the 11 HAM projects? And, what are the timeline expected?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

In the 11 HAM projects which we have, almost 70% of assets we have got in principle okay from NHAI. Lenders also, almost 50% lenders, NOC has come. We are targeting offloading of certain HAM projects by 31st March.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Okay, sir. And sir, with respect to Jaora and Nayagaon, I understand. Can you help us with the status of deal with NIIF? Moreover, what are the progress with respect to remaining 26% stake from SREI and SMPL?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

So on the NIIF, the long stop date on that agreement passed away a long time back. So presently, we are not in active discussion with NIIF for the acquisition of the same. And as far as the 26% of shares are concerned, we are still pursuing with MPRDC for getting the NOC for transferring those shares to our name.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Okay, so post that, we will be the 100% shareholder of that subsidiary?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah, including 26% which we may acquire from Macquarie.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Okay. Okay. And sir, last with respect to the five BOTs, which we earlier dealt with KKR, and now we are with Indian Highway Concessions Trust. So shall we expect the timely approvals? And what is the final date with respect to that for monetization?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

So we expect to get the transition concluded by 31st March. A very few of the in-principle NOCs have already come in from NHAI. We are waiting for a couple of more. On the banks also, almost 70% banks have already given their consent, NOC for change of ownership. So we are trying to achieve the timelines and close it by March 25.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Yeah. Okay, sir. That's it from my side.

Operator

Thank you. Participants, you may press star and one to ask a question. The next question comes from Anupam Gupta from IIFL Securities. Please go ahead.

Anupam Gupta
Investment Analyst, IIFL Securities

Yeah, hi, and thanks for the opportunity, sir. The question is on this existing order book, so of the total INR 16,500 crores, what number is under execution at this point of time?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Almost 14,000 is under execution. One project of MSRDC yet to start, and one project awarded by CIDCO is yet to start.

Anupam Gupta
Investment Analyst, IIFL Securities

Okay. MSRDC and CIDCO, so two only projects which are there.

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Other projects are all started.

Anupam Gupta
Investment Analyst, IIFL Securities

Okay. Understand. And so post the INR 9,000 crore inflow which we have seen right now in this year, what's the sort of inflow you're looking for the balance of the quarter?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Balance of the quarter, we expect INR 3,000 to 4,000 crores. We should be able to looking at the bidding pipeline tenders which we already bid and not opened. And maybe this March end should throw up a good amount of bidding. So we're expecting around, yeah, around INR 3,000 crores we should do.

Anupam Gupta
Investment Analyst, IIFL Securities

Okay. And any BOT projects which will come up in this quarter or BOT only thing will happen next year?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

BOT means sale of BOT projects, yes?

Anupam Gupta
Investment Analyst, IIFL Securities

No, no. Bidding for BOT projects.

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Bidding for BOT, one of projects come only for bidding. And we are very selective about bidding for BOT projects. So we haven't yet participated in any of the BOT highway bidding.

Anupam Gupta
Investment Analyst, IIFL Securities

Understood. Okay. And the next question is on the margins. So margins here have seen an improvement in this quarter, and you're again saying that next quarter should be stronger, and guidance for next year is also better. So overall, do you think that the entire stock of relatively poor quality projects are now over, and the new order book, existing order book is largely 10% plus margins also?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yes. But the new order books will pick up in Q3, Q4 because these are all at mobilization stage, design stage. And these are all big structures. The real ramp-up will see in Q3, Q4.

Anupam Gupta
Investment Analyst, IIFL Securities

Sure. Okay. That's all from my side, sir. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Sushant Verma, an individual investor. Please go ahead.

Sushant Verma
Research Analyst, Wallfort Financial Services Ltd

Hello. Good afternoon, sir. I know you won't. I mean, this is not the forum to really answer the question about the stock market and anything like that. But very clearly, in the last 45 days, the stock has lost about 25% of its value. I know you won't probably comment on that, but does that indicate that the whole sector will have tailwinds considering the budgetary allocation or the overall environment? So how is it going to pan out? I'm a bit worried about the sector as a whole, and particularly, of course, Ashoka Buildcon. So what's your view on that?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

I think the stock markets are playing out more on public sentiment and sentiment with the government. I cannot really specifically say why stocks are moving up or down in these last couple of months throughout in every sector, so better not said than commit anything on that.

Sushant Verma
Research Analyst, Wallfort Financial Services Ltd

No, no. I understand that, sir. That's why I started with that thing. I don't expect an answer from a stock movement perspective from you. But does that indicate an underlying problem in this sector? That is what I'm trying to find out.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

No, I agree. I agree. So opportunity remains buoyant. There's no challenge on that. The government's focus on infrastructure, and as we have seen in the last few months, even in the state levels also, they're very keen in giving out projects. So I think it's a buoyant as far as the infra layout is concerned. You may call it whether roads, you may call it solar, you may call it railways. Everywhere, they are looking at bolstering up the infrastructure facility and quality.

Sushant Verma
Research Analyst, Wallfort Financial Services Ltd

Right. Yeah. I mean, that is what my assumption was too. But somehow, I mean, I'm not getting a very good vibe probably in the last 45 days. That's what I said. So maybe I wanted to understand if you had any other perspective. So it looks like we will probably continue to do. Ashoka Buildcon would continue to do equally good or, I mean, hopefully better than last year, right? I mean, with the pipe and everything.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

You see a lot of opportunities.

Sushant Verma
Research Analyst, Wallfort Financial Services Ltd

Okay. Sure. Thank you. That is what I wanted to check your view. Thank you very much. All the best.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Vasudev from Nuvama. Please go ahead.

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Yeah. Thank you for the opportunity, sir. So sir, you just mentioned in a previous question that we are looking to dispose some of our 11 HAM assets by end of FY2025. So what is the value that we are expecting, and when do we expect the entire transaction to get completed?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Approximately by 25 March, we should be able to sell assets out of the INR 2,300 to 1,000 crores of assets by March 25 and the balance by September, between the September to December quarter, the balance projects in Q1, Q2, Q3 as the projects are ready for being transferred.

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Okay. Sure, sir. And so we'll have this few asset selloff from HAM, and you also said that five BOT assets also we are projecting to complete the sale by March end. So what is the debt levels that we should be expecting by the end of the year?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

So by the end of the year, approximately INR 2,000 crores of INR 2,500 crores of debt on the BOT projects will go off the books. And approximately another maybe I will check that out. Maybe around another INR 1,000 to 500 crores of debt on the HAM projects will go off the books. So we should see approximately INR 4,000 crores of debt to go out of the books by March on the consolidated basis.

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Okay. Sure, sir. And on the bid pipeline, you said that from NHAI and MORTH, it's INR 111,000 crores. So how is it looking on the other segments?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

So other segments also, bidding is happening. Railways is quite optimistic. A lot of bids are coming in. Power segment, we see at state levels. So definitely, there's a bidding pipeline.

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Okay, sir. And sir, on the CapEx front, just what we've done in the nine months, how much are we projecting for Q4 and FY2026?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Hello?

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Yeah, sir.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah. On the CapEx front, we have spent approximately around INR 55 crores on CapEx, and probably in this quarter, we will spend another INR 20-odd crores.

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Okay, and for FY2026, have we charted out?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Around INR 125 crores in total.

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Okay, sir. And sir, this last one, if you can again repeat the revenue breakup for the quarter between different segments?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

For each segment? Okay. I just tell you. On the road, EPC, INR 1,051 crores.

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Okay.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Power, INR 471 crores.

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Power. Okay.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Railway, INR 169 crores.

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Okay.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Other segments all put together, approximately INR 45 crores.

Vasudev Ganatra
Senior Associate, Nuvama

Sure, sir. That's it from my side. Thank you.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Thank you.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Vaibhav Shah from JM Financial Limited. Please go ahead.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Thanks for the follow-up. Sir, when do we expect the appointed date for the new HAM? And what is the land status for the same project?

Hello?

Yeah.

Can I get the question again?

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Yeah. Sir, when do we expect the appointed date for the new HAM? The new HAM appointed date, I think so, financial closure will be by March end, March somewhere, and July, somewhere around July, we should expect. What is the land status?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Land status is, 3G has been done for the substantial portion, but 3G is in process. Out of 293 hectares required, 283 3D has been processed, so this may take around three to four months for the lands to clear. And therefore, we are expecting something around September to be at the appointed date.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Okay. And when do we expect to start the MSRDC and CIDCO project?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

So only one out of three MSRDC, two have started. One will start by March end. This is for MSRDC. And CIDCO, we may see a start date by April or May.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Sir, in CIDCO, ourselves for 51%?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yes. Ashoka Buildcon is 51% in CIDCO.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Who is the partner in the project?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

We have a JV partner called Akshaya Infraprojects Private .

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Okay, and sir, have you started the execution of the Kempegowda Airport project?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yes. Kempegowda's execution already started, and it's going on in full swing here.

Vaibhav Shah
AVP, JM Financial Limited

Okay. Thank you, sir. Okay.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Sahil Jain from Seven Islands PMS. Please go ahead.

Sahil Jain
Analyst, Seven Islands PMS

Hello. Am I audible?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yes, you're audible.

Sahil Jain
Analyst, Seven Islands PMS

Yeah. Hi. Thank you for the opportunity. So I have one question related to the balance sheet side. So I've seen the debt is like 2 months. So are there any plans to reduce the debt level? And I see the interest was also going up quarter-on-quarter basis. So what are the company's plan to reduce the debt? And any guidance on any numbers on how would the balance sheet look like in FY2026 end?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

So you're looking at the consolidated balance sheet or the standalone accordingly?

Sahil Jain
Analyst, Seven Islands PMS

Consolidated balance sheet.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Only consolidated. So there are two parts of the debt. One is the debt on the projects, and one is the debt on the standalone EPC business. On the debts of the project level, these will get reduced as and when we keep on selling those assets to the buyers, which we have suggested some by March and some by Q1, Q2, Q3 of next year. So a substantial portion of the debt, which is approximately INR 5,500 crores, should go off the books by December 2025. New debt will pick up, say, like with the last Baswantpur project, debt may start picking up debt. But other than that, there is no other project debt.

As far as standalone debt is concerned, approximately we have INR 1,400 crores of standalone debt, which we expect to reduce as and when recoveries at our EPC businesses in power largely and in certain projects in roads. We expect receipts to come out from either the concerned employers or from the process of sale of our BOT projects where these debts will be paid off. So from that perspective, and if these transactions on the sales happen by June end, most of the standalone debt also should become substantially low.

Sahil Jain
Analyst, Seven Islands PMS

Can you quantify the amount, the new debt that you said that you'll be raising for the projects after the repayment?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

What we have told is we'll receive approximately INR 2,500 from sale of our BOT projects, which will be split into INR 1,750 in one stage and balance INR 750 in the next stage, and INR 2,300 crores in the HAM projects. This approximately INR 4,800 crores is what we expect to receive. After clearing off dues of Macquarie of around INR 1,500 crores, we'll be left with approximately INR 3,000 crores which will be used for lowering debt and other investment opportunities in HAM and other infra projects.

Sahil Jain
Analyst, Seven Islands PMS

Okay. So going forward in FY2026 end, say March 2027, what would the balance sheet look like, like the cash debt on the consolidated level?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Should be substantially low. Substantially low.

Sahil Jain
Analyst, Seven Islands PMS

Debt would be low, and what about cash?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

What about?

Sahil Jain
Analyst, Seven Islands PMS

Cash and equivalents?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Based on this. It all depends on what plans come up in 2025, 2026. But still, even then also, it should be substantial cash on books.

Sahil Jain
Analyst, Seven Islands PMS

We can say we can be net cash?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah.

Sahil Jain
Analyst, Seven Islands PMS

By FY2026? We can? Okay.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Right.

Sahil Jain
Analyst, Seven Islands PMS

Thank you. That's it.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. A reminder to all the participants, you may press star and one to ask a question. The next question comes from the line of Dr. Amit Vora from the Homeopathic Clinic. Please go ahead.

Amit Vora
Founder, Homeopathic Clinic

Hello?

Hello?

Yeah. Yeah. Am I audible?

Operator

Yeah, you are. You are. Please go ahead.

Amit Vora
Founder, Homeopathic Clinic

Ashoka, so my question is that after selling this present HAM and BOT projects, what other projects of HAM or what will be pending with us? And if you can tell the value of those projects if possible.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

We will have only one HAM project with us, which is recently awarded to us, which will continue on our consolidated books of total project size of INR 1,700 crores. Debt would be around in the range of INR 900 crores. But the debt to be taken would take at least two years' time to pick that debt. Other than that, there will be no major debt on the books on certain small annuity projects which we have. And there will be debt on the Chennai Outer Ring Road project which we have on a consolidated basis.

Amit Vora
Founder, Homeopathic Clinic

Apart from after selling this five BOT and the 11 HAM projects, we would not be having any other projects right now?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

We'll have one Jaora project, toll road project, and one Chennai ORR annuity big project, and two small annuity projects which will also get closed by Q1. So largely one toll project, one annuity project.

Amit Vora
Founder, Homeopathic Clinic

So after the. Ashoka, two big and two small projects after selling this five BOT and 11 HAM projects.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah.

Amit Vora
Founder, Homeopathic Clinic

Of late, it has been seen that the toll collection has been very good. Does that affect our balance sheet also?

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah. We have seen growth in our certain major projects, leaving one off. Otherwise, we have seen 5% growth in the toll revenues quarter on quarter.

Amit Vora
Founder, Homeopathic Clinic

Okay. One last question. In between, we had heard about news about the investment in green hydrogen. If you can just give us something about that. Will that be under ABL only, or it will be a separate company?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

This is an MOU entered with the Bihar government, wherein they are supposed to provide us some land for putting up the entire project. The green hydrogen project is basically a project powered by solar power by renewable energy. We'll be powering it by solar power. This proposal is in a very inception stage. We'll give you an update as and when it materializes.

Amit Vora
Founder, Homeopathic Clinic

Okay. And it would be under ABL only, Ashoka Buildcon only, no?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Yeah. It will be under subsidiary of Ashoka Buildcon.

Amit Vora
Founder, Homeopathic Clinic

Okay. And one last thing. See, green hydrogen is a completely new thing. And we are into infrastructure and all EPC. So I don't doubt your capabilities. But then do we have sufficient capabilities about green hydrogen? Because expertise is something different, so.

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

This is what basically we need to build for the period. Green power is solar. We have enough capability and understanding of solar business. Hydrogen production is not something new which is done. Whenever it is powered by renewable energy, it's a green hydrogen.

Anupam Gupta
Investment Analyst, IIFL Securities

Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much. That's all from my side. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Bhavin Modi from Anand Rathi. Please go ahead.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Yeah. So just a small thing. Sir, what is the order addition till nine month, December 2024? And what is the addition this quarter, like in Q3?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

So till date, we have got around INR 9,000 crores of order book and another INR 3,000 crores is what we are looking at.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

So sir, when you say INR9,000 crores, so do you also include the Nandgaon-Amravati project?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

What is Nandgaon Amravati?

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

The EPC project. From MSRDC.

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

L1, we have not taken. Only the orders, LOA we have received, that is INR9,000.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Okay.

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

We specifically INR8,900 crores. INR8,980 crores, if you want exact.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

So this is till December, right? December 24?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

This is December end, yeah.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

We expect more? INR 5,000 crore of?

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

INR3,000 crores is what we expect to close by this year end.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Okay. Got it. Got it. Thank you, sir.

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

All right.

Operator

Thank you. If there are no further questions from the participants, that concludes today's conference. On behalf of Anand Rathi, Share and Stock Brokers Limited, thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Thank you very much.

Satish Parakh
Managing Director, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Thank you, everyone.

Bhavin Modi
Analyst, Anand Rathi

Thank you, everyone.

Paresh Mehta
CFO, Ashoka Buildcon Limited

Thank you.

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