Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to ASK Automotive Q1 FY26 Post-Results Earnings Conference Call, hosted by Adfactors PR. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during this conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star, then zero on your touch-tone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Snighter Albuquerque. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Thanks, Shubham. A very good evening to everyone, and welcome to the Q1 FY26 Earnings Call of ASK Automotive Limited. From the senior management, we have with us Mr. Kuldip Singh Rathee, Chairman and Managing Director, Mr. Prashant Rathee, Full-Time Director, Mr. Aman Rathee, Full-Time Director, Mr. Naresh Kumar, Chief Financial Officer, and Mr. Manoj Sharma, Chief General Manager, Investor Relations. Before we begin the earnings call, I would like to mention that some of the statements made during today's call may be forward-looking in nature, and hence, it may involve risks and uncertainties, including those related to the future financials and operating performance of the company. Please bear with us if there's a call dropped during the course of the conference call. We would ensure that the call will be reconnected at the earliest.
I would now like to hand over the call to Mr. Kuldip Singh Rathee for his opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Thank you, Mr. Snighter. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. It is my great pleasure to welcome you all to our Q1 FY26 Earnings Conference Call. I hope you have had the opportunity to review the detailed presentation submitted to the exchanges and available on our website. The global economy in 2025 continues to face significant challenges, including rising trade barriers and increased policy uncertainty, leading to a broad-based slowdown in growth. However, India remains a bright spot, with the IMF projecting a robust 6.4% growth for calendar year 2025 despite global disruptions. This positive outlook is further supported by the RBI's cumulative 100 basis points rate cuts over the past six months, an above-normal monsoon, and an upcoming festive season, all of which are expected to boost sentiment, particularly in the rural economy. This is especially encouraging for the two-wheeler industry.
Now, let me begin by sharing a quick overview of the broader industry, as reported by SIAM. The overall performance of the auto industry has remained muted so far, with total vehicle production across segments growing by just 1.5%. The two-wheeler industry's Q1 FY26 production volume was flattish at 5.9 million units, up 0.7% compared to the same period last year. Moving on to the business updates, I am delighted to share with you that we had a strong finish to the first quarter in both revenue and profitability. This marks our seventh consecutive quarter of robust performance since the company's listing in 2023. During Q1 FY26, we delivered revenue growth of 11.1%, that is, excluding the Wheel Assembly business, because Wheel Assembly strategic direction has been minus 53.5%, and thus, consolidated revenue has grown by 3.5% on year-on-year basis.
We achieved growth of 19.3% in EBITDA and 16.3% in PAT on year-on-year basis. We continued to outperform the two-wheeler industry in terms of vehicle production growth during Q1 FY26. Additionally, we achieved the highest quarterly EBITDA margin of 13.8% in Q1 FY26, representing an improvement of 183 basis points over Q1 FY25. Improvement in margins during Q1 FY26 were mainly driven by better economies of scale due to higher volumes, increasing capacity utilization of Karoli facility, ramp-up of new Bangalore facility, and continued focus on cost optimization and strategic reduction in low-value-added Wheel Assembly business. Our aim is not only to sustain this level of EBITDA margins but continue our efforts to improve gradually in the subsequent quarters, depending upon the growth of the two-wheeler industry in FY26.
With this strong performance on profitability, our earnings per share in Q1 FY26 has increased to INR 3.35 per share against INR 2.88 per share in the same period last year. Despite flattish two-wheeler industry growth, our all three segments delivered a positive growth. We have sustained our market leadership position in the Advanced Braking System. Our Advanced Braking System revenue grew by 4% in Q1 on year-on-year basis. The Aluminium Lightweighting Precision Solutions revenue grew by 15% in Q1 on YoY basis. A nd the Safety Control Cable revenue also recorded growth of 6% in Q1 on YoY basis. In the dynamic and unstable global geopolitical environment, the uncertainty caused by USA tariffs has impacted the overall environment. It has resulted in low demand from our existing export customers. Our revenue from exports was stagnant at INR 33 crore in Q1 FY26 against INR 33 crore last year in the same period.
However, we are still confident that we'll grow the exports at 20% year-on-year during FY26. I would now like to give you updates that our Bangalore facility, which was commissioned on 14 January 2025. I am delighted to share that this facility has delivered positive EBITDA in Q1 FY26. This facility is ramping up fast and expected to achieve 60% capacity utilization by Q2 FY26, and this facility will be cash positive in Q2 FY26 itself. At our mega facility at Karoli plant, expansion is going on full swing, and accordingly, capacity utilization is also increasing, and we are currently running at around 65%. So thank you very much for your patient hearing. With this, we leave the floor open for questions and answers. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much. We will now begin with the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press Star and 1 on the touch-tone phone. If you wish to withdraw yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question comes from the line of Vijay Pandey from Nuvama Wealth. Please go ahead.
Hi. Thank you, sir, for taking my question. Sir, just one question I wanted to check about the growth we had previously guided around mid-teens growth in FY26. So this is organic growth. I mean, excluding the Wheel Assembly business. That is my understanding. Let me know if this is correct or not. Secondly, our gross margin was much better than last year and also on quarter-on-quarter basis. Just wanted to check what is driving this growth. Is it primarily coming from the product mix, or are we seeing some easing in terms of raw material expenses? How should we look into it, and what is the expectation going forward? These will be the two questions from my side.
I would like to correct your understanding on the growth, revenue growth, because in our last call also, we had very clearly mentioned that this year, you will see our mid-teens growth in the revenue, excluding the Wheel Assembly business, because that constituted about between 7%-8% of the total revenues, so that we had very clearly mentioned in the call, so please, throughout the year, in the next quarters also, you see our growth like that. I would like to repeat that, and as regards the mid-teens growth, we are very, very confident, though the Q1 has not been good for the industry, but as the GDP is growing well, even as per the IMF, I remain an optimist, and I feel that we'll be able to achieve the target of the mid-teens growth in revenue this year.
As far as your second part is concerned on the margin improvement, that also very clearly we had mentioned in the last call that 80 basis points we will improve from 12.2% to 13% just by this Wheel Assembly business is going, because it was a nonprofit business. So if it is going, so we'll be touching 13%, and we will strive to achieve 13.7% EBITDA margin by all these new plants in Bangalore coming up and a better capacity utilization in the Karoli plant. So both the things have happened. As I mentioned just now, that even in Q1, our new plant in Bangalore has become EBITDA positive. And as we had mentioned in the last call, the Karoli plant was already cash positive. So that has all led to good EBITDA margins.
Okay. Thank you. One more question, sir, just if you can highlight about employee expenses. Employee expenses as percentage of sales at core went up. It came at 6%. So just wanted to check if this is because of our ramping up new plant in Bangalore as well as Rajasthan. Is it because of that, and should we expect it to come down over coming quarters in the range of 5.5%?
What is that percentage? Employee expenses, we have not mentioned anywhere. What are you saying? That 5%?
Employee benefit expenses as a of sales.
Hello. Hi, Naresh t his side. Actually, you compare our sales with the apple-to-apple because this time, our sales is lesser because our Wheel Assembly business is not there. 53.5% is there. So due to that, the percentage seems very high.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Thank you.
And in future, for consumption of all in this particular year, I would still like to mention that whatever growth in revenue you see, that please add 7%-8% in that. So to clear the confusion once and for all throughout the year.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Naveen Kumar Dubey from Narnolia Financial Services Limited. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity, sir, and congratulations on decent performance despite the two-wheeler industry declining. My question is related to two-wheeler industry only first. Are we seeing any revision in the guidance we had previously given of industry growth, that is 6%-8%?
Industry growth. Well, it is too early to say the Q1 has got below expectations. But as I say, I remain optimistic, and I feel that the festival season is approaching. Maybe we cover up. And monsoon has been good, so the good demand should come, I think. Though, yes, today, people overall in two-wheeler segment, they feel that the industry may not grow at 6%. They may grow at about 3%-4% throughout the year. But anyway, we expect that we'll still achieve the mid-teens growth. That's what I feel.
Okay, so second half should be better?
Hi, yeah. Q2 will be better than Q1. Much better.
Okay. One question is related to have we seen any competitive intensity increasing in Advanced Braking System? Because in last two, three quarters, we see this growth percentage is declining.
No, no, no. I have always maintained right from the time of my first road show that since we are the leaders for the last 20 years in the country in all the segments, so we'll grow as per the growth of the industry. So ideally, we should have grown only at 1% or 0.7%, but we have grown at 4%. And that's all because we a little bit outgrow in the aftermarket.
Okay. And sir, any new client addition have we seen recently in last two, three quarters? Any new customer addition?
So the customers remain the same because we are supplying to each and every two-wheeler manufacturer. So there's no addition possible in the list of customers on the two-wheeler side.
Okay. So product lines increasing. Maybe customers not increasing, but new products which are coming from the OEMs, that must be increasing.
Yes. Yes, please. Yes, please.
Okay. And sir, one more question is, can we share our top three customers' revenue details? I mean, what percentage of sales our top three customers contribute?
See, our top customer is the HMSI, the Honda Motorcycle and Scooter India. And that constitutes about around 35%. The second big customer is TVS, which is now 20%, 21%. And the third one is the Hero MotoCorp, which is about 17% or so.
Okay. So if I see FY23 revenues breakup, there the top one customer was 35%. Second one was 16%. So I think TVS has taken share from somebody else.
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Okay. That's it from my side, sir. Thank you, and all the best.
Thank you very much.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Prateek Ladha from Nirmal Bang Institutional Equities. Please go ahead.
Good evening, Kuldeep sir and team. Thank you for the opportunity. I had a couple of questions on the Wheel Assembly business in particular. So the remaining part of the business that we were expected to scale down was a quantum of 150 crore for this year. And what we've seen in the first quarter itself is we've recorded or accrued about INR 50 crore, INR 47 crore to be precise. So is there a faster ramp down that we're seeing of this business that we can probably forecast in our numbers for this year?
No, no, no, no. We had said that this business is about INR 380-400 crores this year, and 60% will go. That was the approximation. So a business of about INR 240 crores was to go, almost. So I think we are very much on that path. But even that 40% will go, maybe the end of this financial year, if it goes, we'll let you know at least one quarter before.
All right, sir. On the new joint venture with TD Holding, so sir, what is the thought process? We've strategically collaborated with a lot of seven other partners that we have. The thought process on this collaboration and what kind of value will it bring for us as a company?
See, we have signed this joint venture because, as I mentioned many times, we like to have the first-mover advantage in any particular line that we choose. So there is no Indian manufacturer producing in India these sunroof cables. So that's why we signed with Germany so that we are the first one to produce these cables and then supply to the systems.
This would be for the domestic market in particular, or will it?
Yeah. No, no. First, it will be the domestic market, and simultaneously, for to derive the economies, we may export also.
This would just be the electric cable. This won't include the electronic as well.
No, no, no. This joint venture is only for the cable.
Okay. All right. And sir, I mean, while the outlook for rural demand is looking strong, the monsoon has been good, MSPs are also where they are. And so just trying to understand, even though the first quarter was subdued, based on your interactions with customers, what the outlook is on the festives and thereafter? Are we expected to see some sort of a recovery going forward, or would it be more gradual in nature?
I always, as I said, remain optimistic, and after Ganesh Chaturthi, normally what we have seen till Diwali, there is a big boost in demand, and I'm still hopeful and optimistic that it will come.
Okay. All right.
That's my understanding.
Okay. All right. And I mean, just to understand from the month of July itself, because we're at the end of July, to understand what the production schedules and if you can give any color, I'm not asking for anything specific on customers.
No, no. I strongly feel the sudden. But if it comes, it will come in September only, month of September.
Okay. Okay. Because Navratri is at the end of September, and yeah, Diwali is in.
Yeah. Diwali is in October. So I think September and October will be very good. This is what we have seen for the last 30 years, more than 30 years. And I strongly feel that it will remain like that.
All right. Sir, and you mentioned you guided for a 20% growth in our exports, which we are looking for FY26. Is this particularly from the non-auto business that is looking to ramp up? We've seen that ramp up significantly, especially in the Q1 as well. We've seen about 48% increase in the non-auto business. So is it largely from that, or are there any other new products that we've made and we've developed, and we're going to be supplying those?
Exports, I have said that the market, the export market, in the current geopolitical situation, is still not very stable, and there is a big confusion on the tariff front. So our U.S. exports are not picking up. And that's what I mentioned, that we may not achieve our own very ambitious targets, which we had mentioned in the last call, but still hopeful to have a 20% growth in the exports from last year.
Okay. All right, sir. All right. Thank you. Thank you so much for the opportunity and all the best.
Thank you.
Thank you. Before we take the next question, we would like to remind participants you may press star and one to ask a question. The next question comes from the line of Smit Shah from Monarch Networth Capital Limited. Please go ahead.
Hello. Good evening, sir and team. Congratulations on a good set of numbers despite the challenging environment. Sir, my question is regarding the alloy wheels. Is there any update on the testing completion and whether we have received any confirmed orders?
No. Alloy wheel, still the testing is going on. And in the last call also, we said that before I think H2 ends, we should know something. And I'm quite hopeful that the supply should start in H2 because there is no other news at the moment.
Okay. Okay. Sir, yeah.
This is the status on our collaboration with Lio Ho Taiwan, where the tests are going on, and on about the status of the other collaboration with Japan, now in Karoli, this year, we have already ordered the machines. The investments have almost been done. The advance is given, and we hope to receive the machines by December, and in January, the sample should come and get tested so that we can start supplies in the next financial year.
Okay. Sir, question is also on the front of the new JV that we have done on the sunroof cables. Sir, can you put some color on the opportunity size that we have?
See, it was not a question of opportunity. There are two thoughts were involved when we signed the joint venture. Number one, I like to be one of the first ones to do the import substitution. So all these cables are being imported at the moment. So we'll be the first one to produce in the country. I think that gives me a lot of satisfaction, number one. Number two, more and more passenger vehicles are now getting the sunroof. They're coming with the sunroof. So this business will slowly, slowly keep on growing. And third thing, I'm confident that with our best quality, that we'll be able to export also in the future.
Okay. Sir, but any number on the market size as such?
Number we have not calculated. It will not be a big number, but still, it will be very prestigious and good part is that all the sale will be to the passenger vehicle segment, where we are not there much.
Okay. Okay. Sir, and in terms of capacity, do we have to put up any capacity? And when do we expect the revenues coming in from this?
The revenue should come, in our opinion, in the next financial year only because I feel we should put up the capacity by the end of this current financial year.
Sir, how much are we investing for this?
Not much. Not much because some of the things are very common with our existing business. And then we will be investing around INR 10 crore this year.
Okay. INR 10 crores.
We have the land, we have the building, everything we have.
Okay. Okay. Sir, last question being on the CapEx front. What will be the CapEx for this year and the next year?
This year, we have already announced that we'll be investing INR 450 crores, and that's going on as per the plan. This CapEx will ensure that we are ready for supplies for the next 18 months or the whole of FY27 is sorted. As regards the CapEx next year is concerned, that will be announced in the due course of time.
Okay. Okay. Thank you, sir, and all the best.
The good part I may announce again that in spite of investing INR 450 crores, we'll be having a better debt-equity ratio, and that will get slightly improved. That's what we target.
Okay. Thank you, sir.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Sagar Shetty from BP Wealth. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Thank you for the opportunity. Congratulations on a good set of numbers. So I just wanted to know, given the regulatory acceleration of the government acceleration of ABS adoption across two-wheeler models, and while we specialize largely in brake shoe in the ABS segment, so how are we assessing? Are we seeing that as a headwind, and how are we planning to assess those headwinds? Is there any strategic initiative you are planning to take in due course?
See, this is a sudden draft notification that everyone received from the government. Nobody was mentally prepared for it. And there are not very many suppliers of ABS in the country, and neither do they have the full capacities. So all our OE customers, they have through CM represented to the government that it is not possible. And since it was a draft notification, I think we are waiting to see the results of what the discussions take place. And only after the discussions when the final notification comes, maybe in a month or two, then only we'll come to know what the current exact situation is there.
Okay. Yeah. Thank you, sir. So, do we have any plan to expand this brake segment or this brake?
See, the point is the ABS current capacities of the manufacturers is hardly 10%-15% of the total requirement. That's what we could understand in interaction with our customers. So they have to gear up how fast they gear up, what will be the quantum of the business that gets generated. So, the good part is after the draft notification, even we have opened discussions with some of the players that what best we can do, what new opportunities we can encash on. Of course, there'll be some if it is implemented in toto, some headwinds will be there for us, but then we will compensate through some other new opportunities in the new setup.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Suvaan Mittal from MFC. Please go ahead.
Hello. Hello, sir. Thank you for the opportunity. I mean, we have two questions lined up. So first being, in the last con call, we are guided for the Bangalore facility to reach anywhere between 60%-70% capacity utilization by end of this quarter of FY26. And we've already projected to reach by 60% in Q2. So by Q4, could we reaffirm that we should reach 70% or at least cross 70%?
Yes. You are right. This is, we are lucky that it's already in Q2, we'll reach 60% capacity utilization. So now I would like to revise the guidance that in Q4, we'll be at 70%-75%. Yes. You are right.
Where do you see the main growth coming from, sir? From the aluminum precision business or the ABS business?
That plant is only aluminum. Aluminum castings with machine.
Okay. Sir, the second question being on the more long-term perspective, as we have major CapExes planned for the coming three, four years at the Karoli facility and Bangalore facility, I did also mention we'll also be investing in a new next plant in Gujarat or Bangalore in this FY. We'll be having significant operating leverage. Over a consistent long-term perspective of three to four years, in what kind of a term could you see the operating leverage to maximize out, and if you could give some color on what kind of roadmap we've set for ourselves for the company?
So the operating leverage, once the plant gets commissioned and it reaches 60%-70%, we almost can start getting the full operating leverage. So all our plants are doing so well. Because these last two plants, when they have become cash, they'll become cash positive. Then I think we'll be deriving very good operating leverage right from the next quarter. And so there is a slight little bit because when the very new plant comes, it takes time.
Okay. Okay.
That's all. All other plants, they run at almost full capacity.
Okay. Thank you. That's it.
Thank you. A reminder to all participants, if you wish to ask a question, you may press star and one. The next question comes from the line of Vijay Pandey from Nuvama Wealth. Please go ahead.
Thank you, sir, for taking my questions again. And I just wanted to check if you can share the details about what will be our revenue expectation from Bangalore and from Karoli plant in order to monitor the operating leverage growth from these two plants. If you can just share not exact number, but even in terms of percentage or range, that will be very helpful.
No. We see our EBITDA over in the new plants is 1.75. So our only target is to achieve that. That's what I can tell you.
Okay, so 1.75 for both Karoli as well as Bangalore?
Yeah. So we have invested INR 490 crores in Karoli. And here will be we have last till March, we had invested INR 155 crores, and now further we'll be investing about INR 75-100 crores more. So you can imagine that is the and 1.75 we should achieve.
Okay. Okay.
Maybe I'm not saying this FY, but of course, certainly next financial year.
Sure. Sure. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Nitin from JM Financial. Please go ahead.
Thanks for the opportunity. Coming back to ABS team, assuming that ABS is implemented as in toto, what would be the impact in terms of number that we are going to have on financials? If you could throw some color on that.
See, Nitin, this is a very hypothetical question that if it is because there are no suppliers who can supply in toto. So we would like to wait and watch to comment. However, if you really want to know the numbers, the total headwinds are about INR 230 crores, which are very nominal, and they are into the aluminum segment. And as I said, that this is the extreme headwind whenever it comes and how many years it comes, and there'll be new opportunities which we'll explore and encash. So it's very difficult to give that number, sir. But I have told you the worst number.
Yeah. So that's for the entire year. That is what the impact that we can have, like INR 230 crores a year.
That is the maximum. That is the maximum. If it is implemented 100% in toto, which we are because all the OEMs are representing, there are only three suppliers in the country of ABS, and they don't have their own capacities. So when they don't have the capacity to supply, how will the manufacturing take place? Maybe I can't say at this moment. That's why I repeatedly say, let the final notification come, and maybe in the next quarterly call, we'll have a visibility, and we'll be able to answer much better.
Good. Thank you. That's it from my side.
Thank you. Before we take the next question, we would like to remind participants, you may press star and one to ask a question. The next question comes from the line of Manish from MNCL. Please go ahead.
Thank you for the opportunity and congratulations on a good set of numbers, sir. So basically, my question relates to the previous participant that if the regulation gets implemented, so from a long-term point of view, how do we see ourselves positioning here? So if we have any plans to venture into anti-lock braking systems, and how do we intend to mitigate this?
That's what I said. Please let the notification come. I'll answer all your questions in the next call because by that time, I'm very sure the final notification will come. And we'll study it thoroughly. And since we have already done eight collaborations cum joint ventures, five collaborations, and three joint ventures, so if it is implemented in total, certainly we'll be looking for some new joint ventures or collaborations.
A follow-up on that question. Is the aftermarket growing faster than the OEMs in the advanced braking for us?
Yes. Yes. It is growing much faster. This quarter, we have grown in double digit there.
Oh, okay, and my second question is regarding any new components addition that you're working on the aluminum business side?
We keep on doing. A lot of RFQs always remain in the pipeline. We keep on developing new components. So that's an ongoing process, and that is why the segment is growing at 15%.
Oh, okay. Yeah. Thank you.
Part of the industry growing at 0.7%.
Oh, great, sir. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. A reminder to all participants, if you wish to ask a question, you may press star and one. As there are no further questions from the participants, I now hand the conference over to Mr. Kuldeep Singh Rathi from ASK Automotive Limited for closing comments. Please go ahead.
Thank you, everyone, for being with us and having such a patient attendance and listening. And thank you for contributing to our thought processes with your very inquisitive questions. And we are very grateful. And in the end, I would only like to say one thing, that our revenue guidance of mid-teens is intact for this financial year in spite of the sector not doing well. And our EBITDA margin, what we have achieved, we will certainly maintain it. I again reiterate. And so I feel the year is going to be good. Thank you very much.
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