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Q3 24/25

Jan 31, 2025

Moderator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to Brookfield India Real Estate Trust Q3 FY25 earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode until the floor is open for questions. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star, then zero on your touch-tone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. We have with us on the call today: Mr. Alok Aggarwal, CEO and MD; Mr. Ankit Gupta, President; and Mr. Amit Jain, CFO of Brookprop Management Services Private Limited; Mr. Rachit Kothari; and Mr. Shailendra Sadnani from Brookfield. I now hand the conference over to the management team. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Good afternoon, everyone. This is Alok. On behalf of the Brookfield India Real Estate Trust, I extend a warm welcome to all participants joining us today for this conference call. Let me start by giving an update on office markets in India. The India office market witnessed exceptional momentum in leasing activity in the year 2024, cementing India's reputation as the office of the world. Across the top eight cities, gross leasing activity hit an all-time high of 89 million sq ft for the calendar year, underscoring the robust demand for high-quality office spaces. We believe that demand for Grade A office spaces will remain strong in 2025 as well. This optimism is driven by sustained revenue growth among IT companies and growth of GCCs in India.

Notably, GCCs accounted for over 30% of total space take-up in 2024, with both new entrants setting up global hubs and existing firms scaling up their operations. With the rising focus on AI, emerging technologies, engineering, and R&D, headcounts across organizations are expected to grow further, and this growth, combined with the continued back-to-office demand, augurs well for higher space absorption in the year 2025 as well. Turning to Brookfield India REIT, I'm delighted to report another outstanding year of growth and a fantastic last quarter. For the second consecutive quarter, we achieved 1 million sq ft of gross leasing, reflecting strong demand for our premium Grade A office assets and office campuses. Our committed occupancy has increased by approximately 770 basis points over the past 12 months, crossing 87% occupancy.

Importantly, we have already achieved the lower end of our stated occupancy guidance for financial year 2025, three months ahead of schedule. With robust market demand, we are confident of further improving occupancy levels in financial year 2025. Additionally, we successfully completed an INR 35 billion QIP fundraise this quarter, which was oversubscribed by 1.5 times. This resounding support from institutional investors reaffirms their confidence in our high-quality portfolio and strengthens our ability to pursue strategic growth opportunities. Looking ahead, we expect leasing momentum to remain strong in 2025. With a dual offering of SEZ and non-SEZ spaces across our campuses, we are well-positioned to attract a diverse tenant base and accelerate our journey towards higher occupancy. Let me now invite Ankit to take you through details on key highlights for the quarter.

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Thank you, Alok. Good evening, everyone. As Alok mentioned, we successfully closed INR 35 billion QIP in the previous quarter, and the QIP issue saw strong demand from marquee long-term investors like IFC, LIC, SBI Mutual Fund, [ICICI Prudential Mutual Fund] amongst others. In fact, this is the first-ever equity investment by both IFC and LIC in any REIT in India. The commitment by these reputed long-term institutional investors is a testament to our high-quality portfolio and positive business outlook. As a result of the QIP, our LTV has gone down from 35% approximately to now approximately 25%, which gives us enough headroom to pursue strategic inorganic growth opportunities for the REIT. We are in conversation with our sponsor group to evaluate acquisition opportunities in Bengaluru, spanning 9.5 million sq ft of assets.

We continue to deliver on our stated leasing guidance, and we have registered the fourth consecutive quarter of upward movement in occupancy crossing 87%. This quarter, we delivered 1.1 million sq ft of gross leasing, marking the second consecutive quarter of exceeding 1 million sq ft in gross leasing. Some of the key large wins for us this quarter are Capgemini of 240,000 sq ft, Teleperformance of 125,000 sq ft, and General Mills of around 77,000 sq ft, among others. Interestingly, all these tenants have expanded their footprints in the REIT portfolio. Capgemini and Teleperformance are growing their footprint by around 70% each to 580,000 and 306,000 sq ft, respectively, and General Mills is increasing their space by 53% to 220,000 sq ft, and this speaks volumes about the stickiness of these large tenants in our high-quality assets.

There is strong demand revival in our SEZ portfolio, with occupancy growing from 76% - 83%, a 700 points increase in the past 12 months. The conversion of SEZ spaces to NPA has further boosted the leasing in these properties. We have achieved a gross leasing of around 2 million sq ft in the past 12 months in our SEZ properties, of which about 40%, which is 0.8 million sq ft, has been in the NPA space. This quarter, we converted an additional 0.7 million sq ft of space to NPA, which is 0.5 million sq ft in G1 and 0.2 million sq ft in N2. With a robust leasing pipeline on 3.7 million sq ft across our SEZ properties, we are confident of continued occupancy growth in our SEZ properties in 2025.

With sequential occupancy improvement in the last four quarters, we have seen an increase in the same-store NOI growth by 17% over the last 12 months. This was also supported by the contractual escalations as well as the spreads achieved on re-leasing and renewals. We achieved an average 8% escalation on 1.6 million sq ft during the quarter and 17% re-leasing spread. On the ESG front, we continue to make significant strides towards our net zero carbon goals by 2040 or sooner. Currently, 40% of our total energy requirement at our Delhi NCR campuses is sourced from renewable energy, and we are on track to achieve 100% green power across all campuses by 2027.

In recognition of our efforts, we received the Golden Peacock Award for ESG in 2024, and five of our assets, G1, G2, N1, N2, and K1, earned five-star ratings and the Sword of Honor from the British Safety Council. Now, I would like to invite Amit to provide the financial updates.

Amit Jain
CFO, Brookfield Properties

Thank you, Ankit. Good afternoon, everyone. Our operating EEs and PILs have grown to INR443 crore in Q3 FY2025, 4% higher Q on Q compared to INR 426 crore in the previous quarter, and 13% higher YOY compared to INR 393 crore in the same period last year. The adjusted NOI for Q3 FY25 is at INR504 crore, 4% higher Q on Q compared to INR 486 crore in the previous quarter, and 11% higher YOY compared to INR453 crore in the same period last year. The YOY growth is primarily on account of new leasing, renewal, and contractual escalations. We are distributing INR 4.9 per unit this quarter, translating to a total distribution of INR 298 crore. For nine months in FY2025, the total DPU number is at INR 14.

In the short term, the proceeds that we raise through QIP would be utilized towards reducing debt in the portfolio, as stated in use of proceeds of QIP, thereby creating LTV headroom, which can be utilized for strategic inorganic growth. Reduction in debt in the short term would increase the total distribution to unit holders on an absolute basis due to reduced interest burden on the debt. Based on our current run rate of NOI on an annualized basis, we would have total NOI of approximately INR 1,800 crore, which takes into account 50% NOI from assets where we have 50% economic interest. Steady leasing recovery can drive approximately 16% growth in our NOI run rate. This, coupled with reduction in the interest burden due to debt repayment from QIP proceeds, should lead to approximately 25% growth in distributions.

This would translate to a distribution per unit on a stabilized basis of INR 24.7 without accounting for any impact on account of rent growth, contractual escalations, MTM, and changes in the interest rates. We continue to maintain a dual AAA rating from ICRA and CRISIL on the back of our strong balance sheet, a long-dated maturity profile, and limited amortizations over the next few years. A majority of our loans are linked to the repo rate, which will benefit us as the benchmark rates begin to trend lower. With that, I would request the moderator to open the floor for Q&A.

Moderator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask questions may press star and one on the touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking questions. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. To ask questions, please press star and one. The first question is from Puneet from HSBC. Please go ahead.

Yeah, thank you so much, Alok and Ankit. Questions on good progress on occupancy. My first question is if you can talk a bit about the NOI margin. We've seen a bit of improvement on the Q on Q side, year-on-year side. What's driving this, and how far do you expect this to go from current levels?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So NOI margins are basically that obviously the occupancy has contributed in the growth of NOI margins. In the last nine months, the occupancy levels have increased by around 7.7%. And the contractual escalations is a factor, as well as the MTM. The spread in re-leasing is contributing towards the growth in NOI margins.

Should one think of these 107% type of LRD peak levels, or is there more room within the assets to deliver?

Sorry, I didn't capture that. Puneet, can you repeat what was 107%?

107% of lease rentals is where you're currently trending at your portfolio. Is there more room to grow from these levels, or should one consider this as peak level of margins?

I would say this would remain at the same level broadly. So yeah, that would be the answer to your question. Yeah, but this, Amit, I agree with Amit, but there's a bit of a scope outside. As a lot of people would come back to offices, there's a possibility that some of the tenants may keep moving from 12/6 to 24/7, and then our margins could improve. I think historically, Amit, we should check. We used to have slightly more. [Crosstalk ]. So that's a possibility, but right now we stayed at what Amit is saying, but there's an upside possible. That's the point I want to make.

Understood. Secondly, there seems to be improvement in the dividend from the North Commercial portfolio. What's driving this, and is that the new consistent level?

For this quarter, we have received some certain income tax refunds in the North Commercial portfolio that is contributing to a higher dividend, so tax refunds are lumpy in nature. You can't predict which quarter we'll get these refunds as such, so for this quarter, that was the reason for increasing dividends from North Commercial portfolio.

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

However, having said that, Puneet, while this quarter, it has been decreasing, and maybe next quarter it will go down, but like we had mentioned in one of our earlier quarters, over the end of the next year, we see the overall dividend component approaching to 20% of the overall share in a steady state anyway, so that we will see as an improvement.

Okay, and lastly, on the DPU walkdown, would it be fair to say that some bit of equity raise, a bit of adjustment, etc., has also been used to pay out DPU, or is it coming from operational? If you can elaborate a bit on the walkdown part.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Nothing. So nothing from capital raised has definitely been used for the DPU purposes. Obviously, once we utilize the QIP funds to repay debt, the interest savings will contribute to the DPU, but no proceeds of QIP have been distributed back to the investors.

Because when I look at the gap from cash flow from operations to the gap between the NDCF REIT, it's about INR 40 crores more. So in fact, interest, etc., would have gone up. CapEx has gone up, but you can fund CapEx by debt. So where is the balance coming from?

It's primarily tax refunds, as we said earlier. That is a lumpy part in the current quarter that is contributing to DPU.

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So Puneet, if I may add, the NDCF generation this quarter is on an undiluted basis 4.80-4.90, and Amit can probably add the exact number there per unit. Add on to that the tax refunds that have come in in the December quarter. Also add on to that the impact of the expanded capital base. That basically gets to the 4.96 that we have generated and 4.9 that we have distributed. And that's the way to probably read it. Incrementally, in the next quarter, we will have till such time as, let's say, we do the next acquisition, the interest savings will further contribute as we keep progress and replace some of what we've seen in the last quarter.

So what I'm trying to understand is, if I look at it broadly, on a cash flow from operations basis, you've got 30 crores more. Extra dividend is about INR 40 crores. So that's okay, INR 70 crores of distribution, you're saying. That's how it has come.

Amit Jain
CFO, Brookfield Properties

So Puneet, I'll just break it down for you, right? If you just look at the NDCF SPV level, Noida, it generated about 11 crores more just at the NDCF level, right, without Noida Commercial portfolio. Noida Commercial portfolio has generated about INR 45 crores more in the last quarter because of tax refunds. So that's 10 plus 45, that's 55. And if you see the cash retained at SPV level, last quarter we retained about INR 16 crores at the SPV level that did not get reported in our NDCF. This quarter, we have not retained that much. We've only retained INR 3 crores. So add another 13 on it. So you are 11 plus 45 plus 13. That should bridge to INR 70 crores.

Understood. That's it. Thank you so much.

Moderator

Thank you. Next question is from Jatin from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Hi. Thanks for the opportunity.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Jatin, we can barely hear you. If you could maybe speak a little louder or closer to the mic.

Can you hear me now?

Yes, much better. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity. So just to your point on the Bengaluru opportunity, what's the plan here? Are we looking at phase-wise acquisition, or is there a plan to sort of go for the acquisition all at once? So that's number one. And second, you've been sort of very consistent on your inorganic additions. So beyond this Bengaluru portfolio, are there any other opportunities that you're evaluating maybe outside the sponsor portfolio?

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah, just to justify, look, I think our sponsor group owns the large portfolio, and the last part of it, which doesn't fit in the REIT today, is focused on Chennai, Bangalore, and Pune. Bangalore continues to be of high interest to the REIT, given it's highly complementary and a very attractive market to begin with. That's the focus for us. The sponsor group owns about 10 million sq ft of assets or 11 million sq ft of assets, where there's a conversation today to figure out, depending on the amount of capital that the REIT has and can raise in the future, what is the right deal that could be done in a short period of time. We continue to have those conversations.

It may take us a couple of rounds to get the entire portfolio, but at this point in time, the good news is we have about INR 3,500 crores, and we can put it to work very quickly. So based on that size, we are having a conversation on a 50% stake in a large portfolio.

Understood. Got it. Good. Thank you so much. That's all from me.

Moderator

Thank you. Before we take the next question, a reminder to participants that you may press star and one to join the question queue. The next question is from Pritesh Sheth from Axis Capital. Please go ahead.

Pritesh Sheth
SVP, Axis Capital

Yeah. Hi. Thanks for the opportunity and congrats on very strong progress in terms of occupancy. First is on, again, the occupancy guidance. You already mentioned that we have achieved the low end of the guidance, but next quarter, there's similar expiries coming up, which we had this quarter as well. Do you think you are a little bit conservative in terms of guidance, and then there is significant upside on the occupancy number that we want to achieve by end of FY25?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So there, Pritesh, I would say that we have already achieved our lower end of the guidance. For this quarter, we continue to put our heads down and focus on delivery. For now, we maintain our occupancy guidance that we have. Obviously, if things go very well, we will try and overdeliver on it, but right now, we continue to maintain the occupancy guidance of 87%-89%.

Pritesh Sheth
SVP, Axis Capital

Just to get a sense on how next two years would look like in terms of occupancy, I think key pillars of further occupancy growth would be SEZ Assets, then Gurugram, and Noida, right? So we have applied for further conversions. You have mentioned about strong leasing pipeline in slide 16. How should one look at these three assets, specifically in terms of occupancy ramp-up? This pipeline that you have mentioned should get converted in probably the next couple of quarters. How's the visibility like?

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

This is a good observation, kind of a signal of CSS, where we have to really ramp up. You see, most of other assets are 90% plus, and we have always maintained that our assets will cross 95% and move towards 98%-99%. That's a strong belief that we have operated in for many years. So if you look at G2, N2, and K1, largely SEZ sitting, our occupancy level, including SEZs, is about 83%. So bulk of new leasing probably comes from G2, N2, and G1. Now, in N2 and G1, we already have areas which are de-SEZified, and in G1, we already have achieved about 200,000 sq ft of de-SEZified leasing, along with the SEZ leasing, which is moving in parallel. Now, again, in N2 SEZ is very, very strong, and we can have conversions any day.

G2 also, G2 is probably, as we have always maintained in last quarter, also probably would lag the curve further and the reasons for that, even the conversion is also happened. But yes, in all these SEZs, we expect over a period of time occupancy to cross 90% and then move towards 95%.

Pritesh Sheth
SVP, Axis Capital

Yeah. Sorry, you went quiet?

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

I'm saying, does it answer your question or any more information?

Pritesh Sheth
SVP, Axis Capital

No, no, absolutely. I think it answers my question. Yeah, I think that's it from my side, and all the best.

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. Participants who wish to ask questions, please press star and one on your touch-tone telephone. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask questions, you may press star and one. The next question is from Parvez Qazi from the Nuvama Group. Please go ahead.

Parvez Qazi
Executive Director, Nuvama Group

Hi. Good afternoon, and thanks for taking my question. We have seen steady improvement in occupancy across most assets, probably except G2. Now, you had mentioned earlier that G2 will probably be the last one to see it fill up. But in general, across the three large SCG properties that we have between G2 and G1, given where currently occupancies are, let's say, somewhere around 75%-80% odd, what is your estimate by when, let's say, can we reach 90% occupancy across these three assets? Will it be, let's say, by end of FY26, or do you think it will take longer?

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Okay. So this is a low. Now, if you see G1, today we are at 78%. And I think maybe two quarters back, we were at probably around 70. So we have seen a strong, almost percentage here in there, almost 9%-10% going up in the last two quarters. So I'm taking it in wide. G1 momentum is very strong. We are seeing SCG as well as non-SCG leases picking up, and some of the leases got redone in this quarter in SCG space as well as non-SCG space. So G1, I think we'll see a very, very rapid growth in occupancy. I think let's hold on for next quarter to say when it will become 90%, but there's quite a good chance that by end of next 12-15 months, we could be at 90, cross 90%. So that's on G1.

N2, again, very strong leasing momentum, both from SCG as well as non-SCG tenants. And again, here, even N2 also, I mean, we should see occupancy crossing 90% in a short time. I think this year itself, actually, assuming there's no kind of expiries or any kind of a surrender, but that we are anticipating. So N2. Now, G2, why we have said it's taking time? Because there are large tenants, there are large RFPs, actually. And those we are working on, larger RFPs take a little more time, actually. That is one reason why G2 probably will follow last one to get kind of that's how it has been planned, and that's how it has been thought about it. So G2 will take some more time, but G2, I'm not committing a number right now, but we have large RFPs.

If one of them gets converted, we can see good improvement in G2 asset. But N2 and G1 are very, very imminent in the next few quarters.

Parvez Qazi
Executive Director, Nuvama Group

Sure. My second question is regarding future SEZ conversion. I mean, what is the pipeline there? And specifically with regards to G2, what do you think will drive the increase in occupancy there? Will it be the conversion of SEZ into non-SEZ space, or will we need an improvement in leasing in the SEZ area to improve the overall occupancy there? Thank you.

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah. So good question, but if you've seen our leasing numbers, we have been able to kind of leverage on SEZ tenants as well. Our existing tenants have taken a lot of space. We have attracted new tenants to SEZ spaces, but still, SEZs do offer value in terms of taxes while it's not direct taxes, but in terms of indirect taxes, they still do offer value. So we continue to kind of let our tenants grow and keep attracting new tenants in SEZ. In non-SEZ, also, we have seen many new tenants coming and taking space across our campuses. So in G2, also, we again see a combination of SEZ as well as non-SEZ.

When I talk about non-SEZ, it will be largely new, but some of the existing tenants also probably can bring their non-SEZ portfolio into G2, but we'll see. In SEZ, it should be new as well as old. It's a combination of all three: SEZ tenants, new non-SEZ tenants, and existing SEZ tenants getting their non-SEZ portfolios. I think Gurugram, Kolkata, and Noida, they have SEZ presence. They have non-SEZ presence. That could get repeated across all campuses. That is where our occupancy ramp-up would come.

Parvez, I would just add that now, in the current market, we are uniquely and favorably positioned as having supply in an asset of both SCG and non-SCG products, which is fairly unique. And like Alok mentioned, the kind of strong demand we are seeing from both SCG and non-SCG is helping us get the kind of growth we are aiming to, right? I mean, for example, G1, we have now already de-notified about 500,000 sq ft, and of that 500,000 sq ft, 200,000 sq ft is leased up, while also the SCG area, which we did not notify, continues to get taken up by the SCG tenants. This is just one example. K1, we de-notified 6,000 sq ft. It's already leased up, and so on. So that dual product story is playing out in our favor.

Parvez Qazi
Executive Director, Nuvama Group

Sure. Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. Participants who wish to ask questions, please press star and one on your touch-tone telephone. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask questions, you may press star and one. Well, as there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference back to the management team for closing comments.

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So I'm assuming there are no further questions. Thank you, everyone, for joining today's call. We look forward to connecting with you all next quarter. Thank you.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Thank you very much. On behalf of Brookfield India Real Estate Trust, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, ladies and gentlemen. You may now disconnect your lines.

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