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Q2 24/25

Nov 7, 2024

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to Brookfield India Real Estate Trust Q2 FY 2025 earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in listen-only mode until the floor is open for questions. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star, then zero on your touch-tone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. On the call, we have the following person: Mr. Alok Aggarwal, CEO and MD; Mr. Ankit Gupta, President; Mr. Amit Jain, CFO of Brookprop Management Services Private Limited; Mr. Rachit Kothari; and Mr. Shailendra Sabhnani from Brookfield. I now hand the conference over to the management. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah. Good morning, everyone. This is Alok. On behalf of the Brookfield India Real Estate Trust, I extend a warm welcome to all participants joining us today for this conference call. While global office markets face challenges, the Indian office market continues to show robust demand due to economic growth and the influx of global corporations increasingly setting up their offices in India. India continues to remain an attractive hub for tenant. Recent reports forecast another record-breaking year for India's office leasing market, with total leasing across major cities expected to surpass 80 million sq ft in 2024. Brookfield India REIT has witnessed robust growth since IPO, with our assets under management growing by more than 3x. We have achieved this increase in scale through both organic and inorganic activities. Our operating area has more than doubled, while our tenant base has been significantly diversified enri ched.

The last 12 months have been a period of substantial progress for Brookfield India REIT. Our committed occupancy has grown by 500 basis points and is now 85%, as we have witnessed a substantial increase in demand for campus-style real estate development. This demand has been driven by a strong return to the office trend, as companies have called their employees back to the offices at least three to four times in a week. We have witnessed demand for both SEZ and non-SEZ spaces, with existing SEZ tenants taking up almost 4,470 sq ft of expansion space during the quarter. In fact, tenants who had previously given up spaces in our campuses are now taking up additional spaces. This has been an ongoing theme over the last few quarters. We believe that this robust leasing demand will continue in the future and expect it to positively benefit our occupancy levels.

We anticipate strong leasing momentum across our portfolio, leveraging the dual offerings of SEZ and non-SEZ spaces within our campuses. This approach enhances our ability to attract a diverse tenant base and accelerates our path to higher occupancy rates. We retained our fiscal year-end committed occupancy target of 87%-89%. Let me now invite Ankit to take you through the key highlights for the quarter.

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Thank you, Alok. Good morning, everyone. Let me take you through the key highlights for the quarter. We achieved a gross leasing of 1 million sq ft in Q2 2025, with the final rentals at INR 124 per sq ft versus the in-place rent of INR 95 per sq ft. This is driven by higher leases at our higher rental assets. The tenants that have been signed in the last quarter include GTT Marine, Fidelity, Cognizant, ERGO, Esri, Aristocrat, and Aptia, among others.

447,000 sq ft of the new leasing, which translates to around 66% of the overall new leasing of 679,000 sq ft, has taken place in our SEZ assets. The implication here is that while non-SEZ demand continues to be strong, our SEZ assets are also witnessing robust traction. The leasing performance over the last 12 months has led to our committed occupancy increasing to 85%, approximately 500 basis points increase from September 2023, which is YoY. Our same-store NOI has increased by 18% over the last 12 months, driven by the improvement in occupancy and supported by contractual escalations and spreads achieved on re-leasing and renewals. We achieved a 9.4% average escalation on 1.9 million sq ft during the year and 19% re-leasing spreads. We currently have a 2.8 million sq ft of SEZ vacancy, of which 1.3 million sq ft is currently under conversion to non-processing area.

Against this 1.3 million, we have a robust pipeline of 2.2 million sq ft. Backed by the strong leasing momentum that we have witnessed and the conversion of space to non-processing area, we expect to achieve a net leasing of 0.4 million sq ft-0.9 million sq ft in H2. With this, we expect our occupancy to reach 87%-89% by the end of the year, which is in line with the guidance we had given earlier. Sustainability remains core to Brookfield India's business strategy. We need ESG excellence initiatives focused on creating future-ready assets, meeting evolving tenant needs while contributing positively towards environmental sustainability goals. During the quarter, we have achieved milestones such as reaching 40% renewable power transition for 15.4 million sq ft across four marquee assets, namely G1 and G2 in Gurugram and N1 and N2 in Noida, sourced from Brookfield's Bikaner Solar Power Project.

This was achieved through a first-of-its-kind agreement in India under the Interstate Transmission System bilateral arrangement. We remain on track to achieve 100% green power by 2027 across our entire portfolio in India. During the quarter, we achieved a five-star GRESB rating for the third consecutive year and were recognized as the Global Sector Leader for Sustainable Mixed-Use Development for our under-construction projects at K1. We are actively reducing our environmental impact through initiatives like solar power, water conservation, waste reduction, air purification, and EV adoption. Our commitment extends beyond environmental impact. We strive to create vibrant and empowered communities through various social initiatives and programs. Collaborations with organizations such as People for Action and the Earth Saviours Foundation exemplify our commitment to fostering community development and enhancing social well-being. With that, I'd like to invite Amit to provide the financial updates.

Amit Jain
CFO, Brookprop Management Services Private Limited

Thank you, Ankit. Good morning, everyone. Our operating lease rentals have grown to INR 426 crore in Q2 FY 2025, 1% higher QoQ compared to INR 420 crore in the previous quarter, and 55% higher YoY compared to INR 274 crore in the same period last year. The adjusted NOI for Q2 FY 2025 is at INR 486 crore, 2% higher QoQ compared to INR 475 crore in the previous quarter, and 40% higher YoY compared to INR 347 crore in the same period last year. The YoY growth is primarily because of the acquisition of Downtown Powai and Candor TechSpace G1, being completed only midway through Q2 FY 2024, and are therefore reflected in Q2 FY 2024's financials for part of the quarter. We are distributing INR 4.6 per unit for this quarter, translating to a total distribution of INR 221 crore.

We are pleased to highlight that the dividend component of the distribution has been maintained at 11% this quarter. We expect the dividend component to improve going forward. If we consider only a 50% share of the NOI from the three assets where we own a 50% stake, our current adjusted NOI run rate is INR 17.5 billion on an annualized basis. Steady leasing recovery can drive around 14% growth in our NOI run rate and consequently lead to a 27% growth in distributions. This would translate to a distribution per unit on a stabilized basis of INR 24.2, without accounting for any impact on account of rent growth, contractual escalations, MTM, and changes in interest rates.

We continue to maintain a dual AAA rating from ICRA and CRISIL on the back of our strong balance sheet, a long-dated maturity profile, and limited amortizations over the next few years. In fact, we are pleased to report that CRISIL has revised the outlook for Brookfield India REIT from negative to stable. A majority of our loans are linked to repo rate, which will benefit us as the benchmark rates begin to trend lower. With that, I would request the moderator to open the floor for Q&A.

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question is from the line of Puneet from HSBC. Please go ahead.

Puneet Gulati
Director of Equity Research, HSBC

Yeah, thank you so much, and congratulations on some progress on occupancy. My first question is with respect to G2. There seems to be a bit of fall in NOI on a Q on Q basis and a little lower vacancy as well. What's happening on the G2 side?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

You're talking about the occupancy. You're talking about the occupancy grid, right?

Puneet Gulati
Director of Equity Research, HSBC

Yeah, occupancy grid, and also the NOI has also fallen Q on Q.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah. So Puneet, I don't know if in the last quarter or so I've maintained that we have, if you really see in SEZ, we have vacancies, large vacancies in three assets. One is G1, one is N2, and one is G2. And we expect G1 and N2 to ramp up much faster, and G2 would ramp up with a bit of a lag. I've said that last time also. And our pipeline is strong. We are working to ramp up the occupancy, and we are expecting a good pickup from at least non-SEZ tenants in the near future.

Puneet Gulati
Director of Equity Research, HSBC

But even in G2, your Q1, sorry, go ahead, please. No, please go ahead.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So pipeline is good. We should expect occupancy to ramp up, but it would lag behind G1 and N2. That is something I've maintained last time also.

Puneet Gulati
Director of Equity Research, HSBC

Understood. But what really is the reason why G2 specifically is seeing extra weakness? Also, there was a pickup in occupancy in Q1, and Q2 has dropped marginally, but your NOI has dropped more meaningfully.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Also, there's no specific reason why it has dropped. It's as we've always maintained that leases could be lumpy, and we were expecting some leasing, which has not materialized. But yes, G1 and N2 are ahead, of course. They're a better place to attract new tenants and ramp up the occupancy. But G2 also will show the occupancy will move up.

Puneet Gulati
Director of Equity Research, HSBC

Okay, great. And secondly, if you can talk about the leakages in the NDCF walkdown from NDCF at REIT level, which is INR 2,481 million down to the distribution of INR 2,285. If you can help us understand what are the leakages there, it would be very helpful. Thank you.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So you're talking about generation of 4.76 versus DPU of 4.6 per unit, right?

Puneet Gulati
Director of Equity Research, HSBC

No, no. So INR 2,481 million NDCF, which is at SPV level for REIT, and down to the NDCF at REIT level. What are the additional numbers? There seem to be a INR 202 crore additional borrowing. If you can talk a bit about that, despite that, there is a negative impact here on NDCF level, on the REIT level of NDCF.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So basically, what you're saying is, so when as per the regulations, the SPVs are required to distribute at least 90% of the distribution to REIT, right? So although the generation at the SPV level is around INR 248 crores, but then based on the revised framework, there is a requirement at the REIT level to retain reserves for the interest expense at the REIT level. So REIT has certain CPs, right, on which interest of around INR 20 crores is accrued on a quarterly basis. So that is how that reserve is created at the REIT level, and therefore the distribution at the REIT level is around INR 228 crores. The NDCF at the REIT level is around INR 228 crores.

Puneet Gulati
Director of Equity Research, HSBC

But INR 20 crores is the financing cost.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

That's correct.

Puneet Gulati
Director of Equity Research, HSBC

Great. That's all from my side.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Mohit Agrawal from IIFL Securities. Please go ahead.

Mohit Agrawal
Equity Research Analyst, IIFL Securities

Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity.

Operator

We do not respond from the current participant. We will move on to the next participant. The next question is from the line of Parvez Qazi from Nuvama Group. Please go ahead.

Parvez Qazi
Executive Director, Nuvama Group

Hi, good morning, and thanks for taking my question. So my question is regarding G1. We have seen an improvement in occupancy. You also said that it is tracking ahead of G2. Now, here we will see income support ending by, I guess, June 25. So by that time, what is your estimation of the occupancy that we'll be able to achieve in G1?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah. So always on that one, the income support that we have is, if you do the calculation, which is attributable to REIT, is roughly about INR 17 crores. And both in terms of G1 on a standalone basis as well as for the overall portfolio, we feel very confident that we don't see any short-term dip due to this income support getting over. The G1 asset continues to see a strong pipeline. As you can see the numbers for this quarter as well, we have been able to increase the occupancy from a 69% to a 74%. We continue to see a heavy leasing momentum there, both on SEZ as well as non-SEZ, with the recent conversion around the corner.

On an overall portfolio level as well, with mark-to-market, with escalations and new leasing, we feel more than comfortable to be able to more than offset the income support dip that will come in. So there should be absolutely no challenge in replenishing that even in the immediate quarter after the income support issues.

Parvez Qazi
Executive Director, Nuvama Group

Sure. My second question is regarding the SEZ area. So of the vacant SEZ space of 2.8 million sq ft, we have about roughly half of it under conversion. So for the balance 1.5 million sq ft, what is our strategy? We want to keep it under SEZ to take care of any leasing demand that we might see in SEZ, or in future, we would like to convert that out?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So on that, Parvez, if you see this quarter's performance, and as I mentioned in my note earlier, of the total leasing that has happened in this quarter of about INR 700,000, about INR 470,000 has come from existing SEZ expansion demand in our assets. So at least we, in our portfolio, over the past several quarters, have continued to see meaningful SEZ demand in our new lease-up every quarter. And therefore, we are going ahead with about 1.3 million sq ft and keeping the remaining 2.5 million sq ft for SEZ for this kind of demand to be catered to. As the 1.3 million sq ft gets leased up by the non-SEZ tenants, we can take a call on the remaining one and a half.

But right now, we want to keep that as SEZ allocated, given the demand we continue to see, which has, as an example, actually been shown in this quarter and the previous quarter as well.

Parvez Qazi
Executive Director, Nuvama Group

Sure. Thanks and all the best.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Pritesh Sheth from Axis Capital. Please go ahead.

Pritesh Sheth
Senior VP, Axis Capital

Yeah. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for the opportunity. First question, I just wanted to understand what was the dividend on NDCF from North Portfolio this quarter? Last quarter, I think it was INR 21 crores, INR 22 crores. What was that amount this quarter?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

That's around INR 32 crores for this quarter.

Pritesh Sheth
Senior VP, Axis Capital

Okay. And I just want to understand in terms of leakage at the NDCF from SPV for REIT level, that was INR 248 crores, right? And if I add that another INR 31 crores, INR 32 crores that we have got from North Portfolio, so that makes it INR 217, but total NDCF was INR 252 crores. So the difference is what you were explaining earlier about keeping reserves for paying off interest at the REIT level, etc.? Is that understanding right?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Dividend from North Commercial Portfolio is INR 20 crores, and the balance dividend has come from other 100% owned SPVs of REIT, right? So basically, the total distribution that REIT has received, as I was explaining earlier, from the SPVs, including the dividend component from North Commercial Portfolio, out of that, a INR 20 crore reserve is being kept to service the interest at the REIT level on commercial papers. And that is how we are arriving at NDCF of INR 228 crores at the REIT level.

Pritesh Sheth
Senior VP, Axis Capital

Sure. Got it. And we had NDCF of INR 4.76 per unit this quarter versus distribution was INR 4.6. So why not a 100% payout this quarter? Any specific reason for that?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

As a percentage, it's a difference of INR 0.16, hardly 3.5% in the overall scheme of things, and we are just keeping that minor amount for any eventualities. In addition, if you look at our guidance, we have given a guidance of INR 18.5 ± INR 0.25. So if I take an average of INR 18.5, the previous quarter we had distributed INR 4.5. So the remaining is about INR 14 for the three quarters, which averages to about INR 4.66. So we have distributed INR 4.6 just to even out the distribution for these remaining quarters. And in any case, if there is anything extra that is left within this financial year itself, we will distribute. So it's basically just to even out the distribution over the quarters.

Pritesh Sheth
Senior VP, Axis Capital

That's fair. Right. And you have taken approval for INR 3,500, sorry, INR 350 crore of capital raise. That would largely be for debt repayment?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Sorry, could you repeat the question?

Pritesh Sheth
Senior VP, Axis Capital

You've taken approval for capital raise. What would be the purpose of that capital raise?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So this is an enabling resolution that allows us to be ready to capitalize on any future growth opportunity that may arise. In the interim, this may be used, if any, for debt reduction.

Pritesh Sheth
Senior VP, Axis Capital

All right. Good. That's it from my side on the rest.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Mohit Agrawal from IIFL Securities. Please go ahead.

Mohit Agrawal
Equity Research Analyst, IIFL Securities

Thanks for giving me an opportunity again. So the first question is more of a clarification for you to achieve 87%-89% occupancy target by the year-end. If I take a midpoint 88%, is my understanding correct that you need a net area addition of INR 0.78, and then you have about INR 1.5 million sq ft of area expiring? So that makes it to the net leasing target from here on, second half, is about INR 1.3 million sq ft-1.4 million sq ft. Is that understanding correct?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah. That's right. If you take a 88% kind of occupancy, we need around INR 1.3 million sq ft-INR 1.4 million sq ft of new leasing.

Mohit Agrawal
Equity Research Analyst, IIFL Securities

And you have done INR 0.9 million sq ft of net leasing so far in the first half. So the annual target that you need to do for which you had earlier given for INR 1.5-INR 2, I'm just trying to understand how this kind of resets your annual target. So your annual target is closer to about INR 2.3 million sq ft-INR 2.4 million sq ft net leasing?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

My annual target would be around INR 2 million sq ft for new leasing. INR 2 million. So we have your guidance INR 1.5 to. So if you take 88%, yes, it will cross INR 2 million. If we take 88%, it will have to cross INR 2 million, yes, annual target.

Mohit Agrawal
Equity Research Analyst, IIFL Securities

Okay. And the pipeline that you're looking for, you're confident of achieving that about INR 1.3 million sq ft-INR 1.4 million sq ft of net leasing?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yes. So yeah, for a net 87%-89%, like you had mentioned earlier, Mohit, we need a net leasing of about 1.5 million sq ft for an 88%. And of that, we have already achieved about 0.9 million. So the remaining 0.6 million sq ft as a net leasing for the remaining half of the year, we feel very confident about.

Mohit Agrawal
Equity Research Analyst, IIFL Securities

Okay. Okay. I have a few follow-ups on that. Maybe I'll take that offline. My second question is, we continue to see increases in the expiry number, and so it seems to be getting new fresh expiry notices in this quarter as well. So is this more like a regular churn, or do you think there's still that IT services segment which is kind of that part is not settled yet? So if you could just clarify if this fresh expiry notices is more like the regular business or still not settled.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah. Yeah. No, this I would definitely classify as regular course of business. In fact, if you see, even in this quarter, as an example, Cognizant has grown in our portfolio, and we have seen some good demand coming back, although cautious, but definitely positive from some of the other IT services companies which are starting to grow back into the market. So I think that era of downsizing is definitely behind us. This increase in expiries is basically regular course of business. But I would also say that the robustness of our demand for our high-quality grade A assets is high enough for us to have maintained our occupancy guidance of 87%- 89%, which we had given earlier as well, in spite of the higher expiries, because we are increasing our new leasing target guidance.

So overall, we feel confident of the regular course of business for us to be able to cater to meet and overcome these expiries.

Mohit Agrawal
Equity Research Analyst, IIFL Securities

Okay. Any particular tenant or any particular asset where you've seen the fresh notices coming in?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

No, this is spread across a few assets, not targeting any one particular asset. So I would not pinpoint any specific one particular tenant attributable to this requirement. And therefore, I feel comfortable in sharing this as a regular course of set of expiries.

Mohit Agrawal
Equity Research Analyst, IIFL Securities

Okay. Perfect. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from the line of Sumit Kumar from JM Financial Institutional Services. Please go ahead.

Sumit Kumar
Consultant, JM Financial Institutional Services

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for the opportunity. My first question is on the same-store growth of lease rentals. That INR 548 million, if you could break it down to how much comes from increase in occupancy and how much from escalation and rental growth?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah. Hi, Sumit. So the 18% growth of same-store NOI that we have been able to demonstrate, which is a very healthy same-store NOI growth, breaks up as occupancy growth contributing to about 8%, lease-up of about 8%, escalations of about 4%- 5%, a mark-to-market improvement of about 4%- 5%, and some cost savings also of 1%- 2%. So it's a healthy mix of this distribution.

Sumit Kumar
Consultant, JM Financial Institutional Services

Okay. And a second question, if I may. There was this cap reduction plan as well. So any update on that? What has happened over the last two quarters?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah. So our capital reduction schemes for the three assets were approved. And in fact, we have started making distributions from one of the assets and then the balance two assets. We expect that over the next two, three quarters, we should start distributing dividends from those assets as well.

Sumit Kumar
Consultant, JM Financial Institutional Services

Any guidance on how the mix would look like going forward from the current 60%, 65%?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

We are expecting that our dividend component of distribution should increase to 20%-25% from the current level of around 11%. Once these capital reduction schemes are fully implemented, then the dividend component would increase to 20%-25%.

Sumit Kumar
Consultant, JM Financial Institutional Services

Sure, sir. Thank you. That's all from us, sir.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Yash from Maximal Capital. Please go ahead.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Good morning, sir. Sir, on slide number 11, you have given a pro forma at 100% occupancy for the NDCF. But how does it pan out, let's say, at 88%, which is the midpoint of the guidance for this year?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So on slide 11. Yeah, yeah. So slide 11, yes, this is at 100% occupancy. At 88%, we will, which is basically the guidance we are giving for by end of this year. So that will be in line with for this year, with the guidance of the INR 18.5 ± INR 0.25 that we have given earlier. Post that, obviously, you will see an uptick because the run rate will change. But for this year, the guidance will continue to be in the range of the INR 18.5 ± INR 0.25.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

But given current trends, what would be guidance, if any, for FY 2026?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

For that, we'll have to get back. Right now, we are focusing on our guidance for this year and therefore putting our heads down to making sure that operationally we are delivering on that one. For the guidance for next year, we'll kind of share that subsequently at the right time.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Okay. And on the spread, so I'm a bit confused. So you said that on the existing renewables, you are getting around 5% sort of a markup.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

5% markup on that and 5% on mark-to-market for the new leasing. Is that the right way of looking into it? Basically, when you are getting a new tenant, then you are getting a 5% sort of more than what was the existing rent for the old tenant.

Ankit Gupta
President, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah, about 4%. But yeah, 4%- 5% in that range. That's the mark-to-market. That's the mark-to-market baked in into the 18% same-store NOI growth.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

How does that relate with the spread percentage data which is there on slide number seven?

Rachit Kothari
Board Member, Brookprop Management Services Private Limited

Sorry, that's it, sir. I think the question, if I understood correctly, is that when we break down the 18% growth, within absolute terms, it'll be about INR 40 crore a quarter, give or take. Your question is, why is that 5%? Actually, it's a 5% of total absolute growth, not on a lease-by-lease basis. On a lease-by-lease basis, the numbers will corroborate with what you see on the leasing success page of a presentation, which is about 21% on renewables and about 17% on new leasing. What Ankit described as 5% was really the breakdown of the absolute quantum of 18% growth.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Okay, so put it another way, this 17%, 21%, 19%, over what period is this happening on average?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

The 17% and 21% you see on the slide is for Q2, right? And as Rachit explained, this number represents what is the increase in the rent on the area where we did a new leasing or a renewal. The number of NTM of 4% was on the entire base of the NOI of the asset, which will also include a lot of the legacy leases where there is no new leasing or renewal. So from the entire base, 17% and 21% is only on the area where there is a new leasing or renewal which is happening.

Rachit Kothari
Board Member, Brookprop Management Services Private Limited

Look, put differently, I think we see about 8%- 9% of our leased areas churn every year by way of regular course expiries, which is ordinary course of business for us. You see these spreads. If you see our history for the last six or eight quarters, you'll see these spreads pretty much consistently everywhere where these renewals or new leasings happen. Now, it's on an average, I think, about 8%- 10% of area every year which goes through this churn achieves such rates.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

So that will add another 1%, 1%, 1.5% to your overall growth?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yes. Absolutely.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Okay. Okay. Understood. And then apart from that, your typical terms would be 4%, 5% escalation every year?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yes. Yes.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Okay. Okay. Understood. And just one final thing. So when you're converting this SEZ to non-SEZ, are you seeing any compression in the rentals in any of those properties?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

No. As we are converting to non-SEZ, we are, in fact, seeing two kinds of outcomes. One, in assets where we already are healthy on our occupancy, we are seeing an uptick given the kind of demand. If you see, for example, in Kolkata, we were earlier on a SEZ basis tracking at about INR 44, INR 45 of rental. The deal that we did with HDFC for the non-SEZ part was at about INR 53, so we've seen a healthy uptick there. In some of our other assets, as we are doing the conversion to non-SEZ, our current focus is to focus on accelerating the velocity of the takeoff, which in the interim, we will focus on at similar rentals. And once we achieve higher occupancies there, we will also focus on premiumization with the higher occupancies. So then we will start seeing more rental upticks as well.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Understood. What's your current debt to AUM, and what's the target on sort of taking it upwards or downwards? Debt to AUM?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Say what's the question?

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

What is your debt to AUM?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So our LTV ratio, excluding the third-party shareholder loan, is 34.5%. And if you are including, say, shareholder debt from GIC, who are there in G1 and Noida offices, the LTV ratio is 38%.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Since it is lower than the regulatory threshold, is there a plan to sort of take it upwards in the coming years, and what would be that?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

No. Actually, in fact, we are intending to bring it downwards as many times as any regulation, but there is no plan to increase the LTV ratio for sure.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Okay. So the further growth, how are you planning that will help happen with the equity infusion only, or how are you planning that?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah. So look, the further growth will largely be, and if you see how we've done the last acquisition, will largely be while maintaining the LTV ratios in the current zone. And effectively, that would entail, call it 2/3 equity, 1/3 debt on a go-forward basis.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

So these will be primarily with large landlords, and they're getting units of the REITs previously with the Bharti Group?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So look, what you saw with the Bharti Group was a swap where the consideration was settled in terms of units. If you look at the acquisitions that we did last year, there was a mix of cash and units. So going forward, we take a call at that point in time on what would be the appropriate mix for discharging the consideration for that acquisition.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Since you are trading at a value which is lower than the NAV, so every time you issue these units, is this NAV accretive, or does it help the existing unit holders?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah. So look, if you look at the last acquisition that we did earlier this year, which was a North Commercial portfolio, it was accretive on an NAV basis. It was accretive on an NDCF basis. So that's just one precedent that I would like to direct you to look at.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Understood. Thank you, sir, for patiently answering all the questions, and thanks a lot.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Dhiraj Dave from Samvad Financial Services LLP. Please go ahead. Mr. Dhiraj, I will request you to unmute the line and speak, please.

Dhiraj Dave
Managing Partner, Samvad Financial Services LLP

Yes. Can you hear me now?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yes, we can hear you.

Dhiraj Dave
Managing Partner, Samvad Financial Services LLP

Yeah, yeah. So my question is, what is the kind of in these new rentals? Can you give us a breakup of GCC clients and non-GCC clients, and what is the management's views about that area?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So Dhiraj, if I understand the question, you're basically asking off the top, what is the breakdown between GCC and non-GCC tenants?

Dhiraj Dave
Managing Partner, Samvad Financial Services LLP

Yes. Yes.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Okay. Maybe we'll answer that directionally, but I'll just hand it over to Ankit. So Dhiraj, for example, this quarter, and I can give you an area perspective, rents we'll need to carve out, but I think it should be in the similar range. About 35%-40% of our total area lease-up has been done by GCCs. Even if you take our overall portfolio, it is in that range. So if we had to take a direct extrapolation, you can take kind of a rental average also in that range, though we'll have to do specific numbers on that.

Dhiraj Dave
Managing Partner, Samvad Financial Services LLP

Okay. And how do you see growth? Because I see a pattern of growth being demand from GCC higher than non-GCC, or is that equally robust?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

We do continue to see a very robust demand from GCC. Domestics are growing as well. But I think GCCs in general across the country, and we are seeing this in all our locations, are growing in a very healthy way, including the demand for our specific assets is on a very high pull basis by these GCCs.

Dhiraj Dave
Managing Partner, Samvad Financial Services LLP

Okay. Thank you a lot . I'll share on the next.

Operator

Thank you.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, you may press star and one to ask a question.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Have you heard any question? We can wait for maybe 15 seconds if somebody wants to ask any question. You can wait for 15, 20 seconds. We have some time. There's some time with that.

Operator

There are more than 20 parties in the conference.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So you know.

Operator

The next follow-up question is from the line of Yash from Maximal Capital. Please go ahead.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Sir, thank you for the follow-up. So can you walk us through your liability structure in terms of how much is external benchmark-related loans and how much is MCLR, etc.? And then what would be the sensitivity on the overall NDCF for the, let's say, 0.5% decrease in the benchmark repo rates?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

So our repo rate linked portfolio represents 81% of the total loan book rate. And so at 50 bps reduction in the benchmark rates, currently our average interest cost is around 8.36%, right? So on our overall loan portfolio of around INR 11,000 crore, so 50 bps reduction would lead to a saving of around INR 50 crore. So that is how we are looking at it.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Understood. And finally, now, because of these some geopolitical problems between India and Canada, so is there any sort of change in the way we are looking at expanding this portfolio out of the REIT going forward? Any change from the sponsor side or what you have discussed with them?

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah, Yash, there is absolutely no impact of any of that in our context.

Yash Dedhia
Senior Analyst, Maximal Capital

Okay. Thank you, sir.

Operator

Thank you. As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.

Alok Aggarwal
CEO and Managing Director, Brookfield India Real Estate Trust

Yeah, so thank you, everybody. Thank you, everyone, for joining today's call. We look forward to connecting with you next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

On behalf of Brookfield India Real Estate Trust, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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