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Q3 25/26

Feb 9, 2026

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to BSE Limited Q3 and FY26 investor consult call. As a reminder, all participants' lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the consult call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touchscreen phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Anand Sethuraman from BSE Limited. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

Good evening, everyone, and thank you so much, Danish. A warm welcome to all of you for participating in Q3 FY2026 earnings call for BSE. My name is Anand, and I'll be the host for the call. Today we are joined by BSE's leadership team, consisting of Mr. Sundararaman Ramamurthy, Managing Director and CEO, Mr. Deepak Goel, Chief Financial Officer, Shrimati Kamala K, Chief Regulatory Officer, Mr. Sunil Ramrakhiani, Chief Business Officer, Mr. Viral Davda, Chief Technology Officer, Shrimati Radha Srinivasan, Head of Listing and SME, Mr. Rudresh Kunde, Chief of Product Strategy and Policy, Shrimati Vaishali Babu, MD and CEO of ICCL. Also present here are senior members of our Business, Finance, and Investor Relations team. The results for the quarter ended 31st December 2025 have been announced, and the data pack consisting of financials and investor presentation is available on the BSE website.

We will begin today's call with remarks from BSE's MD and CEO on the business and financial performance. All participant lines will be muted for the duration of the call. There will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the management remarks. Please note that some of the remarks made today may be forward-looking in nature and are subject to risks and uncertainties. The company does not undertake to update these forward-looking statements publicly. With this, I would now like to invite BSE MD and CEO to share his views. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Thank you, Anand. Good evening, everybody, and a warm welcome to all of our esteemed stakeholders for joining the call today to discuss Q3 FY 2026 earnings. Warm wishes for the new year to all of you. Let me first talk a little bit about the macroeconomic environment. The global landscape has become more volatile with geopolitical tensions. Trade and tariff uncertainties have weighed on global investor confidence. We have seen unprecedented movements of gold and silver prices and outflows from India by FPIs. However, the Indian economy continues to demonstrate strong and stable growth with the year starting on a good note. I take this opportunity to congratulate Honorable Prime Minister Narendra Modi Ji for the successful agreement of the trade deal with the United States.

Together with the trade deals with the E.U. and the U.K. announced earlier, the move to progressively lower tariffs and non-tariff barriers has the potential to enhance market access, boost trade, and enable deeper strategic collaboration while further strengthening India's position as a trusted partner. This will enhance the global competitiveness of Indian products while catalyzing manufacturing growth, employment creation, and the development of resilient supply chains, directly advancing the vision of Viksit Bharat, which bodes well for the Indian capital markets. I also congratulate Honorable Finance Minister Shrimati Nirmala Sitharaman Ji for her ninth consecutive budget articulating a clear shift towards ecosystem-driven industrial strategy and long-term capital formation. For capital markets, the budget offers a blend of structural reforms, liquidity-enhancing measures, and regulatory fine-tuning aimed at shaping a deeper, more resilient financial architecture.

By expanding foreign investor limits, strengthening the corporate bond framework, and maintaining fiscal discipline, the budget enhances liquidity and broadens participation. The STT adjustments also appear to be realigning investor focus towards long-term equity investments and healthier market liquidity. Additionally, the rationalization of the buyback tax removes distortion that previously encouraged tax arbitrage. Moving to Indian capital markets, the defining feature of 2025 was the composition of capital flows, not their absolute size. When foreign portfolio investors retreated during 2025's geopolitical turbulence, India's domestic institutional investors comprising of mutual funds, insurance companies, banks, and others deployed INR 700,000 crore during the calendar year, representing a 33% increase from INR 525,000 crore in 2024. This represented a fundamental change in market microstructure. The year demonstrated that domestic capital could manage foreign outflows without systemic disruption. Equally encouraging is the unwavering commitment of India's retail investors.

SIP flows touched a record high of INR 334,000 crores in 2025 from INR 268,000 crores in 2024, reaching new all-time levels and reinforcing the deepening culture of disciplined long-term investing across the country. Against this backdrop, I am pleased to share that BSE delivered its 11th consecutive quarter of record revenues with consolidated revenues of INR 1,334 crores, surpassing the previous quarter's record of INR 1,139 crores and marking a robust 62% year-on-year expansion. Moreover, with cumulative revenues reaching INR 3,518 crores during the first nine months of the current financial year, BSE has already exceeded the total top line of INR 3,236 crores recorded for the entire previous fiscal, underscoring the strong and sustained growth momentum across its business segments. I will now share some of the key financial numbers on a consolidated basis for the quarter ended December 31st, 2025, as compared to the corresponding quarter previous year.

BSE's operational revenues have grown by 62% to INR 1,244 crores from INR 768 crores. Transaction charges comprising revenues from the equity cash, equity derivatives, mutual fund, and Clearing segments have registered a substantial increase of 86%, rising to INR 953 crores from INR 511 crores, reflecting robust growth in core trading and settlement-related activities. Other operating income, which includes enhanced data dissemination fees, Colocation, index services, etc., have increased by 56% to INR 92 crores from INR 59 crores. Income from investments has increased by 47% to INR 84 crores from INR 57 crores. Operating expenses increased by 40% to INR 511 crores from INR 364 crores. It may be noted that 51% of the total operating expenses are attributable to regulatory fees and clearing and settlement expenses, all of which is directly correlated to increasing transaction volumes.

The operating EBITDA, including contribution to Core SGF, has more than tripled to INR 732 crores as compared to INR 236 crores, with margins expanding to 59% from 39%. The net profit attributable to the shareholders of the company has demonstrated a significant acceleration, more than doubling to INR 602 crores from INR 220 crores, representing a robust year-on-year growth of 176%. This marked improvement across both top line and bottom line performance underscores the company's enhanced operational resilience, disciplined execution, and sustained financial momentum. The continuation of this trajectory further reflects the breadth and depth of participant engagement across our platforms, the effectiveness of our strategically aligned initiatives, and the progressively increasing confidence that India's capital market ecosystem continues to repose in BSE.

As highlighted in our previous earnings calls, the SGF contributions recorded during the quarter reflect the implementation of BSE's revised policy, whereby 5% of transaction-linked revenue is allocated to the core settlement guarantee fund on a monthly basis. The policy framework incorporates an upper limit mechanism to ensure prudent capital management while simultaneously maintaining robust and adequate risk coverage. As of January 2026, BSE's core SGF balance stood at INR 1,202 crores, inclusive of an incremental contribution of INR 45.6 crores made during the quarter, arising from the application of this new policy. Furthermore, employee expenses for the period increased by INR 22 crores, primarily attributable to the enactment of Government of India's new labor codes notified on November 21, 2025, which introduced a standardized wage definition and revised regulatory provisions relating to Gratuity, leave encashment, and other employee benefit obligations.

Let me now highlight a few of the many business milestones in Q3 FY 2026. BSE's SME Platform achieved a significant milestone with the successful listing of its 700th SME company on February 1, 2026. The pace of listings has accelerated meaningfully with the most recent tranche of 100 companies added within a span of just 179 days, marking the shortest interval recorded to date. Collectively, these 700 SMEs have mobilized INR 14,735 crore in capital and together represent accumulative market capitalization of approximately INR 180,000 crore, reflecting the platform's growing depth, scale, and relevance within India's evolving capital market ecosystem. The total number of investor accounts registered on BSE has surpassed 24 crore, with 10 states individually contributing more than 1 crore registered investors, reflecting a broad-based deepening of retail market participation across regional demographics.

On the investor education front, BSE conducted 4,841 investor awareness programs during Q3 FY2026 aimed at enhancing financial literacy, strengthening informed decision-making, and furthering the protection of investor interests within the capital market ecosystem. BSE signed a memorandum of understanding with the Department of Posts to enable the distribution of mutual fund products via India Post's vast network of post offices. Under the agreement, selected postal employees will be trained and certified to act as mutual fund distributors using the BSE StAR MF platform to facilitate transactions. This partnership aims to enhance financial inclusion, specifically targeting rural and semi-urban areas by leveraging the BSE StAR MF platform. SEBI, along with BSE, launched the first-ever bond issuer outreach program introducing the new identity, "Bonds - Ek Sashakt Bandhan." This initiative strengthens our collective push to deepen India's corporate bond market.

At BSE, we remain committed to building a transparent, digital, and issuer-centric ecosystem that broadens participation, enhances trust, and positions corporate bonds as a key engine of long-term capital formation. BSE's fundraising platforms continue to remain the preferred choice by Indian companies to raise capital by enabling issuers to raise INR 2,240,000 crore in FY 2026 by means of equity, debt, bonds, commercial papers, mutual funds, etc. Q3 FY 2026 proved to be an exceptionally strong quarter in terms of capital mobilization. A total of 39 companies raised a record of INR 95,272 crore, reflecting the depth and resilience of fundraising environment on BSE. The strong uptick in the IPO pipeline since early 2025 continues to reflect the vibrancy of India's primary markets, reinforcing BSE's position as a preferred listing venue across both the main board and SME segments.

Moving on to our trading segment, it continues to maintain strong growth momentum supported by healthy volumes and increased client participation across key business lines. Cash market trading volumes remain at long-term normalized levels at INR 7,645 crores in Q3 FY 2026 against INR 6,800 crores in the same period last year. On the regulatory front, SEBI directed exchanges to introduce a closing auction session to be implemented from 3 August 2026, replacing the existing methodology of determining closing prices through the volume-weighted average price of trades executed during the final 30 minutes of continuous trading. The shift is anchored in the objective of ensuring a fair, transparent, and representative closing price, particularly given its critical role in derivative settlement, index computation, and mutual fund net asset value calculations. In addition, SEBI has aligned the pre-open auction session with the CAS framework.

The pre-open session will remain 15 minutes long, although market and limit orders follow a similar equilibrium price discovery mechanism with random closure and improved transparency through dissemination of indicative prices and other imbalances. BSE is preparing to implement the changes to ensure a smooth transaction for all market participants. The BSE index derivative segment continued to exhibit a strong and sustained growth trajectory during the quarter, with the average daily premium turnover reaching a new record of INR 19,459 crores, more than double recorded in the corresponding quarter of the previous year and representing a sequential increase of 30% QoQ. Following the transition to a Thursday expiry cycle, we have observed a pronounced expansion in open interest, deeper market participation, and a broadening of the contract's liquidity profile.

Sensex Index Options has consequently advanced to rank among the most actively traded contracts in 2025 with continued momentum observed in 2026 so far. In addition, BSE has revamped the BANKEX Index to make it broad-based and representative of the evolving banking landscape. Following this enhancement, we are witnessing a marked increase in market participation and liquidity, further strengthening the index's relevance as a benchmark for investors and market participants. We remain focused on further enhancing market depth by expanding participation, evolving our product suite, particularly through the promotion of longer tenor contracts, and strengthening our technology infrastructure through systematic upgrades to data center capabilities and connectivity framework. Colocation continues to constitute a strategically significant component of our broader diversification agenda, serving as a critical enabler of enhanced market access, latency-sensitive trading infrastructure, and long-term revenue stability.

During the quarter under review, colocation revenues stood at INR 48 crores, broadly in line with the previous quarter. The revised throttle charge framework introduced in July 2025 continues to support the steady performance, with utilization trends remaining healthy. Turning to our mutual fund distribution business, BSE StAR MF continues to serve as a strategically important pillar of our market infrastructure ecosystem, playing a critical role in facilitating retail participation, scale, and strengthening the efficiency and transparency of mutual fund transactions nationwide. During the quarter, the platform delivered yet another period of record performance, with revenues increasing 14% year-on-year to INR 72.5 crores. Transaction volumes also exhibited strong momentum, rising 21% to INR 21.7 crore transactions in Q3 FY 2026. Notably, the platform achieved a new monthly peak of INR 7.97 crore transactions in January 2026, further reinforcing its position as a high-growth, systemically critical distribution channel within India's mutual fund landscape.

Moving to our subsidiary business now, BSE's clearing house, Indian Clearing Corporation Limited, ICCL, continues to grow in Q3 FY 2026 with equity-settled turnover at INR 814,000 crore and equity derivatives premium turnover at INR 1,257,000 crore, while the number of equity derivatives contracts settled stood at INR 364 crore. This was enabled by major tech upgrades, including re-engineering of our real-time risk management system and scaling trades per second per member from 3,000 to 27,000. BSE Index Services, a wholly owned subsidiary of BSE, offers a comprehensive portfolio of 200+ indices spanning broad-based, thematic, sector, and strategic equity categories, serving over 350 marquee clients both domestically and globally. As of December 2025, passive products tracking our indices have surpassed INR 270,000 crore in AUM, with 85 passive schemes benchmarked to our indices. Since the acquisition of 50% stake from SPDJI, the company has launched 50 new indices, significantly accelerating innovation.

Additionally, the company has obtained RBI approval for two debt indices, expanding our product suite beyond equities. Overall, this quarter, we recorded our strongest performance to date across multiple dimensions, including top-line and bottom-line expansion, new listings, transaction-linked revenues, clearinghouse activity, market data services, and index-related revenues, underscoring the scalability, resilience, and operational depth of our diversified business model. These outcomes reaffirm the effectiveness of our strategic initiatives.

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

I'm sorry to interrupt you, sir, but there's a lot of disturbance from the background. Thank you.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

These outcomes reaffirm.

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

I'm sorry to interrupt, Bhola. Hello?

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Hello? Shall we reconnect?

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

Yes, yes, yes, please.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

I think one second. Is this better?

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

Yes, you may please proceed.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

These outcomes reaffirm the effectiveness of our strategic initiatives and the deepening trust placed in BSE by participants across the financial ecosystem. As we move forward, BSE remains firmly committed to strengthening India's capital market architecture with integrity, innovation, and resilience at its core. Supported by a healthy IPO pipeline, sustained retail participation, and the expanding adoption of our trading, clearing, and settlement platforms, we are well-positioned to enable the next phase of market development. Our strategic focus will continue to center on broadening opportunities, simplifying market processes, and upholding the highest standards of governance and institutional discipline. Together, we will continue to build a more vibrant, inclusive, and future-ready market for all stakeholders. Thank you for your continued trust and support, and sorry for the disturbances and noise which you might have encountered during my speech. With these updates, I now hand over the call back to Anand.

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

Thank you so much, sir, for the remarks. We will now open the floor for Q&A. Over to you, Danish.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin with the question-and-answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. Before we take the first question, I would like to inform you, in order to ensure that the management will be able to address all the questions from the participants, we request you to kindly limit your questions to one question per participant. If you have a follow-up question, please rejoin the queue. The first question comes from the line of Sucrit Patil from Eyesight Fintrade Pvt Ltd. Please go ahead.

Sucrit Patil
Senior Technical Analyst for Equity Markets, and Market Trend Specialist.\, Eyesight Fintrade

Good evening to the team. I have two questions. My first question to Mr. MD, sir, is: How do you see BSE balancing between expanding new product offerings, strengthening technology infrastructure, and protecting the profits? As investor participation and competition evolve, what will guide your decision-making process on which of these areas should get the strongest focus in the coming quarters? That's my first question. I'll ask my second question after this. Thank you.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Thank you, first of all, for asking this question. I'm not sure whether these objectives that you're talking about are conflicting. Actually, I feel they are complementary. As MII, we don't strive hard to protect the top line or bottom line. We try to provide services which will suit the market's requirement and fulfill the market's demand for products and better the economy in terms of capital creation. When we adhere to this process, naturally and necessarily, infrastructure building becomes part and parcel of it, and profits become an automatic outcome, and therefore we don't have to go towards making profit as a specific goal. So our focus will continue as what it was. It will be deepening and broadening the market, enhancing customer delight, and in the process, helping the capital formation for the economy.

All our product introductions will be keeping in mind these broad strategic objectives, and this is what will be guiding. We are very confident and sure when we pursue these objectives, profit is a natural corollary that will be happening. Thank you.

Sucrit Patil
Senior Technical Analyst for Equity Markets, and Market Trend Specialist.\, Eyesight Fintrade

Thank you. My second question to Mr. CFO is, again along the similar lines: As BSE plans for the next few quarters or next few years, which financial signals or metrics will be most important in guiding decisions on cost control, cash flow management, and capital allocation for technological investments? How do you see these particular levers shaping BSE's ability to protect the margins and deliver sustainable value as the exchange business grows? Thank you.

Deepak Goel
CFO, BSE

So thank you for this question. Protecting margin and managing cost is a continuous process, so it doesn't get driven by any one particular objective. Ultimately, the overall objective what MD, sir, mentioned is what guides us in terms of maximizing capital formation, maximizing providing best infrastructure to the market, and we get guided by the development of the market. As I mentioned, cost control etc. is a guiding regular process which we continue to manage.

Now, we request all participants to please limit their questions to one per person, and please follow the queue.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Thank you, and best wishes.

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

Thank you so much. Again, reminder for all the participants: please limit the questions to one question per participant. Our next question comes from the line of Swarnabha Mukherjee from B&K Securities. Please go ahead.

Swarnabha Mukherjee
Director, and Senior Equity Research Analyst, B&K

Hi, sir. Thank you for the opportunity. I just wanted to understand in terms of the core SGF contribution, so the limit that you have in mind, so how much runway for that is left? If you could give some color on that, that would be very helpful. Thank you.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Thanks for this question. At this point of time, if you recall, we decided to contribute 5% till we reach a threshold of 150%. In this quarter, we have reached the threshold of 150%, limiting therefore the requirement to contribute the amount to lesser than 5%. That is where we stand.

Swarnabha Mukherjee
Director, and Senior Equity Research Analyst, B&K

Okay, sir. Very helpful. I'll come back in a few. Thank you.

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Supratim Datta from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Supratim Datta
VP of Equity Research, Jefferies

Thanks for the opportunity. What we have seen in the last few months is commodities have emerged as a key segment of interest for both HFTs as well as retail traders. Just wanted to understand how are you seeing that category, and is this a category of interest that you would like to build in the next coming years? Yeah. Thank you.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Datta ji, thanks for this very valuable question that you have asked me. As you would recall, BSE commenced its journey in derivatives very late and very recently, somewhere around some 30+ months back. We started it from scratch, and therefore we needed to consolidate ourselves, put ourselves in a growth path, and the policy of deepening and broadening of markets and customer relations were to be achieved. So I think slowly and steadily, we are reaching there, and we do recognize the fact that commodities are very important underlyings from a nation's perspective and its overall economic development. So clearly, once we feel well-stabilized in what we have started to do, and once we feel we are resilient, we will certainly be embarking on all the available opportunities, including commodities, with the same seriousness with which we took derivatives for equities. Hope this answers your question.

Supratim Datta
VP of Equity Research, Jefferies

Yeah. So when would you think that you have become resilient on the equity derivative side so that you can pursue these new opportunities?

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Honestly, 30+ months before when I started, I never thought I will reach this place in 30 months. So it's very difficult to put a timeline. It can be anything. So the passage for us in equity derivatives has been really swift. We hope the same way we progress further so that we can take up other areas.

Supratim Datta
VP of Equity Research, Jefferies

Thank you, sir.

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

Thank you. Reminder for all the participants: please limit the questions to one question per participant. Our next question comes from the line of Amit Chandra from HDFC Securities. Please go ahead.

Amit Chandra
Deputy VP, Institutional Research, and Senior Equity Research Analyst, HDFC Securities

Yeah, sir. Thanks for the opportunity. So my question is on the strategic direction that you led in terms of gaining market share in the cash segment and also improving on the monthly contribution in the options side and also the institutional participation. So where we are in that journey, maybe if you can update us versus last quarter's commentary. And also in terms of the market share that we see in terms of colocation and Clearing Corporation , we are currently in terms of revenue market share for colo, we are at 14%, around 14%-15%. In Clearing Corp, we have gained around 25%-27%. So is it fair to assume that this market share will converge to our options market share eventually in the?

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

On the cash market segment and in the monthly options to start with, as far as cash market segment, clearly we felt there need to be a level playing field in the market, which was absent. So with a lot of regulatory advocacy, common contract notes were brought in place. What we are understanding from the market participants is that while they absolutely realize the benefits of common contract notes, when they seek algo approvals so that the SOR can be implemented and best price execution could be implemented for the market participants, there are quite a few bottlenecks that they are encountering. We are very confident that wisdom will prevail, and the market will be ready to embrace competitiveness with an open mind so that the market participants get the benefit of best price execution and become exchange agnostic.

I think it's a transformation, and it's therefore a journey all participants need to embrace what is good for the market without thinking what is good for themselves. And we are confident that it will happen. More and more participants are getting aligned with this. Particularly, mutual fund and insurance companies have started seeing the benefits of embracing this path and getting the benefits of best price execution. As far as long-term, rather than always we used to measure it in terms of other than weekly expiry, other than the current weekly expiry, our market share has started. Market share means the share of whatever we trade within that has started growing. And earlier, we were nothing there in the next week and next to next week. Today, we are very proud to say, including the monthly, other than the current week, total volumes of ours, 5% comes from that.

I think this is a starting process, and we will be going further ahead. Amit ji, I'm not actually remembering your second question. Oh, I think you talked about colocation. Colocation was never.

Amit Chandra
Deputy VP, Institutional Research, and Senior Equity Research Analyst, HDFC Securities

Yeah, sir. Yeah, sir. Continue.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Clearing Corporation. Yeah, now I remember. Colocation, we never started as a profit center. As we earlier also stated, deepening and broadening of markets was a necessity for us, and without colocation, it could not have happened. It is incidental that we put in place colocation as a requirement, and it has become a profit center. At this point of time, we are planning to allocate 80 more racks, which is in the offering soon, which way and how will depend upon multiple factors. With that, we will be having around 500 racks in place. Currently, the colocation revenue is somewhere around INR 45 crore-INR 48 crore per quarter. We think it will get stabilized at that level if you are not planning to increase any charges, which at this point of time will not be done ad hoc. It will be only at appropriate time, appropriate levels.

As far as clearing corporation is concerned, we have put in a lot of efforts to improve the technological supremacy and efficiency of clearing corporation. Traveling from 3,000 trades per second per member in clearing corporation, that capability to 27,000, I think, which you are doing now, in itself is a great achievement, and there is still a long way to go. We will strive hard to provide the best of services so that there is a level playing field in the market in the area of clearing as well.

Amit Chandra
Deputy VP, Institutional Research, and Senior Equity Research Analyst, HDFC Securities

Thank you, sir. Thank you, and all the best, sir.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Thank you so much, Chandra ji.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Prayesh Jain from Motilal Oswal Financial Services. Please go ahead.

Prayesh Jain
Executive Director, Motilal Oswal

Yeah. Hi, sir. So my question is on stock options. How do we kind of scale up that segment? Is it linked to the cash volumes, and what are the efforts, and what are the plans for that particular segment? Because I think that's a decent part of the industry volumes in terms of premium turnover and the premium to notional is also significantly better there. So what are the thoughts on that particular category over the medium term?

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

It's a very good question that you are asking. BSE always looks for product diversification in its portfolio. Certainly, therefore, stock options would be one of the areas which we will be looking into. As you would be knowing, comparatively, stock futures were more attractive products for the market compared to stock options, and stock options were therefore getting slightly lesser attention compared to stock futures. And as I said previously, we recently started our journey just around 30 months before, and it was fortunate for us that we were able to grow to the level where we are. Now, our primary focus has been at this point of time on cash market volumes and bringing in a level playing field there and ensuring, other than the current week options, gaining traction. Slowly, we are progressing there.

At the appropriate time, like what we talked about commodities, we will be putting in efforts for stock options as well to gain momentum at BSE and use the existing infrastructure of market participants and technology so that we can leverage on it and provide a very good alternative competitive platform for the market participants.

Prayesh Jain
Executive Director, Motilal Oswal

Just follow up on that. Is there any linkage between cash volumes? Are we having a low market share on cash volumes and stock options? Would there be any linkage in that sense?

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

It is very difficult to say that because the market microstructure is not that easy to predict. Whether the stock market volumes will increase stock options volume or the vice versa will happen or they will continue to exist. See, today, if you look at it, the cash market is fungible across exchanges. The stock options, in a way, are fungible across exchanges. So I don't know whether there is any prerequisite of one to be present in the same exchange or the other. So it's very difficult to give an answer in that sense. The stock as an underlying is very active in Indian markets. That in itself, therefore, should be sufficient for picking up stock options. Probably, it may not be venue-sensitive. That is one view, but we have to wait and see how it unfolds.

Prayesh Jain
Executive Director, Motilal Oswal

Thank you so much, sir. All the best.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Deepak Ajmera from IGE India. Please go ahead.

Deepak Ajmera
Director, IGE

Thank you. Thanks for the opportunity, and congratulations on a great set of results. And also, congratulations considering or looking at the January numbers where BSE is higher than the NSE in terms of notional turnover Nifty. So my question is on the charges. To my knowledge, premiums compared to the turnover, we are charging lower than the NSE. So what is the plan there to increase the same? Thank you.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Ajmera ji, thank you for your congratulatory messages, and thanks for kindly attending this call and asking this question. Thanks for noting the way in which NSE is growing. At this point of time, the charges that we make are around INR 250 lower on a per-crore basis. If you recall, we started our journey with no charges. Then we went into INR 500, and then we slowly increased it to some mid-level, and then we ultimately landed up with the current charges that we are. Charges are not fixed and written in stone. Certainly, they have some scope for further increase. As I always say, depending on the market's capability to bear the cost, there are multiple costs that are evolving in the market. Profit cannot be a sole objective for an MII. It also has other responsibilities.

Keeping that in mind, any increase in charges will be considered at an appropriate time for appropriate reasons and after considering what the voice of the customer would be in this regard.

Deepak Ajmera
Director, IGE

Thank you. All the best.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Deekshant Boolchandani from DB Wealth. Please go ahead.

Deekshant Boolchandani
Portfolio Manager, Wealth Management Advisory, and Financial Research Analyst, DB Wealth

Congratulations management on the good results. What is the sort of impact that we are envisioning?

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

I'm really sorry, Mr. Boolchandani . Your voice is very low.

Deekshant Boolchandani
Portfolio Manager, Wealth Management Advisory, and Financial Research Analyst, DB Wealth

Okay. Is this better?

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

Yes. Please go ahead.

Deekshant Boolchandani
Portfolio Manager, Wealth Management Advisory, and Financial Research Analyst, DB Wealth

Management, what is it that we are thinking on the recent changes that the government has made on the STT? What are the reflections in the markets that you have started to expect that what can happen now? What are your thoughts on it?

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Thank you, Mr. Bhulchandani ji, for congratulating us, and thanks for attending this call and asking this question. I think you are primarily referring to the STT increase. The other part of it is, of course, with regard to the buyback, the capital gains tax. I think that's a very wonderful change. A lot of people talk about the STT, so let me take the question to reflect to that area and answer you. It had two portions. One is increasing the STT for futures, and second is for options. As I have been telling the press also before, my experience from the past is that whenever STT charges are increased for options, it has not had any meaningful impact on the volumes, and volumes have continued as before. That is the experience that I have seen from my limited knowledge of what I have seen in the market.

As far as futures are concerned, I think the thought process behind the move probably could be twofold. One is to encourage long-term equity investments among retailers instead of getting into the derivatives, and secondly, to encourage longer-term future contracts, which may help mutual funds and other institutions which are permitted to trade derivatives. Both, if materialized, will be in the interest of the market. I think there will be some time to adjust and reorient for the market. Once it happens, it will be in the interest of the market as more retail people may move towards mutual fund and long-term equity investments. Mutual funds which are doing arbitrage funds and others may think of a longer-term option instead of monthly option so that the cost that would be debited to the funds will get lower.

Deekshant Boolchandani
Portfolio Manager, Wealth Management Advisory, and Financial Research Analyst, DB Wealth

Sir, just a follow-up here. A good chunk of our growth has happened because of the futures introduction by BSE. If the charges go up more than double on STT, wouldn't that be a problem for our growth trajectory just from a basic perspective?

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

It's a very valid question that you are asking, but the truth is slightly different. The growth of BSE's derivatives has been based on Sensex options volumes. At this point of time, in comparison to the Sensex options, Sensex futures are still at a very nascent stage of growth. Because it is at a small level, I don't think it will have much impact because of any increase or decrease. If it had been a significant chunk, there is a probability for us to rethink on what could be the strategy for futures. Since at this point of time, it looks like more a supporting volume for options that is happening in very nascent stages, we do not find any impact specifically coming on Sensex futures because of the change.

Deekshant Boolchandani
Portfolio Manager, Wealth Management Advisory, and Financial Research Analyst, DB Wealth

This is more of a neutral news for us rather than a negative news for us or an impact on our direct business?

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Bhulchandani ji, I think we should restrict it to one question. You had two questions, and if you are getting into three questions, I have replied to you. I am sure you get what I am saying. You should get into the queue again. Yeah?

Deekshant Boolchandani
Portfolio Manager, Wealth Management Advisory, and Financial Research Analyst, DB Wealth

Thank you, sir.

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

Thank you. Request participant to please limit the question to one question per participant. Our next question comes from the line of Devesh Agarwal from IIFL Securities. Please go ahead.

Devesh Agarwal
VP and Senior Equity Research Analyst, IIFL Securities

Yeah. Good evening, sir. Thank you for the opportunity, and congratulations on a very strong performance. Most of the questions have been answered. Just to clarification, first, did you say that you are nearly at 150% of your core SGF requirement, and to that extent, the incremental contribution will not be there from the coming quarter, or it will come down? That is first. And secondly, the increase in the STT that has happened on the futures side, would that in any way directionally can the volume shift from futures to either equity options or cash? Is that a possibility?

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

As far as the SDF, if you look at it, most of the time, what we talk about SDF is more on a retrospective basis. On a prospective basis, it's not very amenable for prediction. That is why a hard-hard number of 5% and 150 were arrived at by us to prevent any shocks. In this quarter, with the type of parameters that we have seen, we found that there was no need for us to contribute the entire full 5%, and we restricted somewhere around 3% plus, I guess, because we touched the top line of 150%. Will the same thing continue? And therefore, there'll be no need for any contribution in the next quarter? No, it is not predicted that way. As we always maintained, the algorithm for computing the SDF requirement is a complex one.

Therefore, depending upon what is the highest open interest and other things in the next quarter, there may be a need for contributing, or there may be no need. The move is not to predict and prevent. The move is to normalize so that there are no sudden jerks. As far as the STT is concerned, your question was, will that result in a move towards options? Will that lead to a move towards underlying equity volumes? My impression is that the way the futures STT is structured, I think it is more to encourage people, particularly retailers, to think of participating in longer-term equity and for mutual fund and others to think about longer-term futures instead of monthly futures. So that could be the result. Options, at this point of time, for various reasons in a growth trajectory.

Because of that, while the growth may be slightly slower compared to what it was, I think it will still grow and may not show any severe impact because of the STT increase. All these are what we consider could be truth. The time will tell what is the right thing, and maybe we have to wait and watch to see what type of reaction the market has because market cannot be just predicted with our own understanding. Market is complex, and so we will have to wait and watch is my reply to your question.

Devesh Agarwal
VP and Senior Equity Research Analyst, IIFL Securities

Understood, sir. Thank you so much and all the very best.

Sundararaman Ramamurthy
Managing Director, CEO, and Executive Director, BSE

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, due to the time constraint, that was the last question for today. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Anand Sethuraman for closing comments. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Anand Sethuraman
Head of Investor Relations, BSE

Thank you so much, Danesh. Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. If you have any further questions, please feel free to reach out to us at bse.ir@bsenew.com. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, Anand sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of BSE Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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