Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the TCS Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Kedar Shirali. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Thank you, Margaret. Good evening, and welcome, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss PCS' financial results for the Q2 of fiscal year 2021 that ended September 30, 2020. This call is being webcast through our website, and an archive, including the transcript, will be available on the site for the duration of this quarter. The financial statements, quarterly fact sheet and press releases are also available on our website.
Our leadership team is present on this call to discuss our results. We have with us today Mr. Rajesh Gopinathan, Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director.
Good evening and good day to all of you.
Mr. N. G. Subramaniam, Chief Operating Officer.
Hello, everyone.
Mr. V. Ramakrishnan, Chief Financial Officer.
Yes. Hello. Hi, everyone.
And Mr. Milan Larkar, Chief HR Officer.
Yes. Hi, everyone.
Rajesh and Ramke will give a brief overview of the company's performance followed by a Q and A session. As you are aware, we don't provide specific revenue or earnings guidance and anything said on this call, which reflects our outlook for the future or which could be construed as a forward looking statement, must be reviewed in conjunction with the risks that the company faces. We have outlined these risks in the second slide of the quarterly fact sheet available on our website and emailed out to those who have subscribed to our mailing list. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Rajesh.
Thank you, Kedar. And once again, good evening and welcome to this call. Thank you for joining us. I'm pleased to share with you our Q2 performance, which has seen a very sharp recovery in our revenue growth and margins and another very strong order book. Of course, after last quarter's steep fall, our revenues mostly continue to be below prior year level in constant currency and U.
S. Dollar terms. So we will use sequential or quarter on quarter growth figures in this call to give you a better idea of the immediate trends. Our revenue grew 4.8% Q on Q in constant currency terms and 7.2% in reported dollar terms. In rupee terms, the revenue growth was 4.7% on a sequential quarter on quarter basis.
Excluding an exceptional item towards a legal claim, our operating margin for the quarter was 26.2%, a sequential expansion of 2 59 basis points and our net margin came in at 21%. I'll now have Ramkir go over all the headline numbers and the financial and segmental performance and later I shall step back in to talk about demand trends that we're seeing. Over to you Ramke. Yes. Thank you, Rajesh.
Let me go through the headline numbers. The Q2 FY 2021, our revenue grew 4.8% sequentially, as Rajesh mentioned, on a constant currency basis. Reported revenue in INR was INR 401,350,000,000, a quarter on quarter growth of 4.7 percent and U. S. Revenue was $5,424,000,000 which is a Q on Q growth of 7.2%.
Coming into the segmental details for the quarter. As Rajesh mentioned, I'll be sharing the quarter on quarter growth numbers in constant currency terms. We saw strong growth in our 2 largest business verticals, BFSI and Retail in Q2. BFSI grew 6.2% with strong momentum led by the Retail Banking and Mortgage subverticals. The Capital Markets and Insurance segments also performed well.
The retail cluster grew 8.8% despite continued weakness in discretionary retail, CPG and the travel and hospitality sub verticals. In addition to increased digital investments, we also benefited from the ongoing flight to quality, resulting in market share gains. The Life Sciences and Healthcare vertical continued to outperform, growing 6.9% sequentially and 17.2% on a Y on Y basis. Technology and Services grew 3.1%, manufacturing 1.4%, while communications and media degrew by 2.4%. All our markets showed good sequential growth with North America growing 3.6 percent, UK 3.8 percent and Continental Europe 6.1%.
Among the emerging markets, India grew 20% 5% and Asia Pacific 2.9%. Our portfolio of award winning products and platforms continue to report strong demand and business expansion in Q2. Igneo, our suite of cognitive automation software, acquired 10 new logos in Q2. In this period, 12 customers went live on the product. We have been harnessing its context awareness and versatility in very innovative business use cases, driving tremendous transformational outcomes for our customers.
For one large American department store company, we have built an always on store solution powered by Igneo that provides an interactive dashboard with a detailed view of the health of the IT assets of each store, such as servers, databases, routers, POS terminals, printers, scanners and so on. Using this, operations team can now complete their ready for business assurance checks for all the stores within minutes every morning. Store managers can start their day without the fear of disruption due to application or infrastructure issues and the resultant business losses. We continue to expand Digitate's channel partnerships, adding 4 new partners in Q2. During the quarter, the Digital Academy trained and certified 4 49 professionals from customer as well as partner organizations, an indicator of the strong demand for igneous skills in the market.
Theseus Banks, our flagship suite product in the financial services domain, had 5 new wins and 10 go lives in Q2. We had 2 new wins for our digital banking platform, 2 for our securities platform and 1 for payments. The Quartz Smart Ledger solution had 2 new wins and one go live in Q2. One of the wins is to implement a distributed ledger ecosystem for a leading private sector bank in India to enable the seamless exchange of information with their counterparty banks and significantly improve the efficiency in their interbank borrowing process. Our Hobbs SaaS platform for communication service providers had 2 new wins.
In both cases, the customers are looking to power their business process transformation using PCS TwinX, an enterprise digital twin solution powered by AI, simulation and intelligent predictive capabilities. Lastly, as customers progress in their core transformation journeys and modernize their application estate, we are seeing accelerated demand for TCS MasterCraft, a suite of intelligent automation products for end to end enterprise application modernization. In Q2, there were 12 new wins for MasterCraft. Agile, our cloud based enterprise agile DevOps platform, had 3 new wins, taking the total number of users past the 12,000 mark. Let me now go over our client metrics.
The steady upward movement of customer accounts up the revenue buckets is the surest validation of our customer centric strategy and is driven by our constant investment in newer capabilities and launch of newer services and products that cater to an expanding set of stakeholders. In Q2, we added 2 more clients in the $100,000,000 plus band, bringing the total to 49 3 clients in the $20,000,000 plus band bringing the total to 228,000,000 11 clients in the $5,000,000 band bringing the total to $5.65 and 44 clients in the $1,000,000 plus band, taking the total to $10.76. Coming to margins, we have always maintained that growth is the best margin lever, and that is very evident in our numbers this quarter. But before we get there, I want to inform you that we have provided INR 12.18 crores as an exceptional item this quarter. Purely as a matter of prudential accounting towards the legal claim that we are contesting in the U.
S. Courts. All the numbers I discussed this point on are excluding the impact of this provision. Our operating margin expanded 259 basis points to 26.2 percent despite a neutral currency. Our net income margin also expanded to 21%.
The effective tax rate for the quarter was 24.8%, and our DSO in dollar terms was at 65%, an all time low. Net cash from operations was INR106,180,000,000 which is 1 125.9 percent of net income. Free cash flow was INR 99,860,000,000, up 25.6 percent year on year. Invested funds as of September 30 stood at INR 585,940,000,000. The Board has recommended an interim dividend of INR 12 per share.
Additionally, it has also approved the buyback of 50 3,330,000 equity shares of TCS, which is 1.42 percent of the total paid up equity capital at INR 3,000 per equity share for an aggregate amount not exceeding INR 160,000,000,000. This excludes taxes and related expenses. The buyback will be executed on a proportionate basis under the tender offer route using the stock exchange mechanism, subject to shareholder approval through a post bill ballot. On the people front, we increased our recruitment globally to support our growth, ending the quarter with a total headcount of 4 100 and 53,540. It's a diverse workforce with women making up 36.4% of the base and with 147 nationalities represented.
We continue to invest heavily in our organic talent development initiatives, reimagining the learning process to also cover virtual leadership development programs. The learning intensity went up sharply in Q2 with TCSRs logging 10,200,000 learning hours during the quarter, a 29% increase over the prior quarter. Over 352,000 employees have been trained on multiple new technologies, and over 25% of open positions were fulfilled this quarter with internal candidates. We continued deep engagement with over 35,000 campus hires with the purpose of getting them industry ready through innovative learning practices using virtual hackathons, podcast series, professional India certifications, ideathons and business skills training using online games and simulation. During the quarter, our HR achieved 100% virtual onboarding of over 8,000 freshers across India, the U.
S. And Europe after first making them project ready through our Xplore program. In Q3, we plan to onboard another 12,000 freshers. As you all know, our continued investments in people, our empowering culture and progressive HR policies have made us a global industry benchmark for talent retention. In Q2, our LTM attrition in IT services, which includes all departures, voluntary and involuntary, was at 8.9%, an all time low even by our own standards.
We'll be also rolling out salary increases with the effect from October 1. I now turn the floor to Rajesh for the demand drivers.
Thank you, Ramkim. Let me start by giving you an update on our operations story, which has been a very core pillar to the performance that we've seen in the quarter. So on behalf of NGS, let me give you a good short summary of it. Now with the health and well-being of our employees being our top priority and in line with our Vision 2525, we've been encouraging all our employees to continue working remotely using our secure bottleless workspaces model. Currently, about 3% of our workforce is working out of our facilities and that too only for the most business critical activities.
We have invested in setting up medical helplines, ambulance services, first line COVID isolation centers within TCS premises at 11 cities. We are also providing self help and counseling services, which have already been availed by nearly 8,000 TCSs in Q2. We have also ramped up our employee engagement and outreach. Our 1 TCS channel has hosted inspirational leaders, mental health and well-being experts, virtual town halls and global talent hunt competitions all have been designed to ensure that we increase engagement, we increase interactivity and reduce stress and the feeling of isolation to keep our employee morale at a high. We are further strengthening our SBWS model for greater operational resilience and to make it location independent by default.
We are embedding it with richer analytics and dashboards to provide a more visibility of ongoing projects to project managers as well as customers and facilitate a data driven delivery excellence model that we have always been known for. This is also helping leaders to more closely track the unit performance across a range of operating metrics and take decisions that are transparent and depth with data. We have rolled out what we call the IOX workspace resilience solution at all our locations in India and in some of our larger centers overseas. It is an AI powered business command center, which empowers local site administrators to assess employee risk profiles on a daily and weekly basis and use that to decide on who can be safely allowed to return to work if they were required to do so. The solution is also now available to all our customers.
And as they design their return to work strategies and is receiving a lot of interest and traction across a wide spectrum. Coming now to demand drivers during the quarter. As detailed by Ramke, we had a broad based growth across all markets and industry verticals. The sharp rebound in our revenue growth in Q2 was driven by multiple factors. A big component of it being applied to quality, which we spoke about earlier and which is continuing at pace.
While there were a few formal vendor consolidation exercises, customers have been reassigning many small sized engagements from existing incumbents to TCS across our customer spectrum. Customers are also accelerating their technology investments to power their recovery and revival as well as their transformation journeys. And we are their preferred partners in this exercise. Our customer technology investments during the quarter continued to be along 1 or more of 3 distinct teams: customer experience, employee experience and operational resilience. This is driving strong growth for individual service offerings related to these themes like cloud cybersecurity services, analytics and cognitive business operations.
More importantly, initiatives for enhancing customer experience or strengthening operational resilience are triggering large core transformation initiatives in some cases. Our differentiated positioning is helping us win more than a fair share of these deals. Our deep domain expertise and contextual knowledge as well as our ability to stitch together multiple service capabilities to create a bespoke solution closely tailored to meet each customer's unique context and business imperative is one of our core strengths, which we have spoken about in the past also. Similarly, our machine first approach and our intellectual property are often very central to many of these transformations and help significantly accelerate the business value realization of our customers. The total contract value of deals signed in Q2 was 8,600,000,000.
In BFSI, the TCV of deals signed during this quarter stood at 1,700,000,000, while the retail order book was at $1,000,000,000 The TCV from deals signed in North America stood at $3,200,000,000 Our pipeline continues to be very strong and well distributed across industry verticals and market with a good mix of small, medium and large deals. From a I spoke earlier about the multiyear tech cycle. Stepping back related from near term trends and looking at the larger technology landscape, I would say that the pandemic has been a material catalyst in driving a better appreciation and urgency and adoption of hyperscale cloud platforms by enterprises globally. While the hyperscale providers have been steadily building on their technology stacks over the last 5 years, enterprise adoption has been measured and the current unfortunate situation has precipitated a much more accelerated value realization and adoption of these solutions. The pandemic has driven home the downsides of carrying a technology deck and the need for greater resilience, resulting in accelerated initiatives to put in place cloud based foundations that will serve as a secure, resilient and scalable digital score.
We are probably at the start of a multiyear technology accreditation cycle. The full strategic value of these investments will be realized only when these platforms are viewed not just as a compute and storage solution, but as complete innovation ecosystems. Once the customer has a robust digital core, we help them harness the power of other technologies like AIML and the rich native capabilities of these platforms to create innovative new business models to anchor purpose driven ecosystems and to provide differentiated customer experiences. We believe this is an even larger opportunity because enterprises will defend evermore on technology led innovation to drive the differentiation in a post pandemic world. We have intensified our investments and created new cloud practices to gain market share in this rapidly expanding opportunity.
Our cloud practices aligned to major cloud hyperscalers are full service multidisciplinary units offering customers the full range of services, transformational as well as operational on the respective technology stack, spanning advisory services, migration, modernization across applications, including SaaS and enterprise productivity suites as well as infrastructure data, edge security, etcetera. Over the last few months, we have operationalized local management centers across 10 cities globally. These provide our customers a full set of cyber resiliency services with built in service assurance, data segregation and compliance to various regulatory requirements. While these investments are very important and the technology expertise we are building in each of these technology stacks is invaluable to our customers, it is our firm belief that what truly sets us apart in our industry is our domain and contextual knowledge and our investments in research and innovation. Let me spend a couple of minutes on each of these.
From a domain knowledge perspective, our value to our customers comes not just from supplying technology skills, but in terms of in the sort of solutioning approach where we use our deep domain knowledge and our technology expertise to come up with innovative technology solutions to their most pressing business problems. Our verticalized industry based organization structure has helped foster and grow industry vertical expertise over the last decade. We keep receiving external validation of our leadership in these areas. Recently, the head of recently, the head of our mortgage services practice received the House Wire Award for thought leadership in the home lending recognition across a wide set of forums on our work, both from a contextual perspective and from a domain perspective. And research firms also routinely place us as number one rankings on industry centric capabilities in BFSI, life sciences, retail, manufacturing, etcetera.
The industry knowledge itself is valuable, but when it is ported across and applied in a different industry, it creates a new driver for innovation and value creation in the new industry context. In this kind of cross industry leverage of knowledge and skills, which we are uniquely positioned to orchestrate, makes us even more attractive strategic partners to our customer universe. And there are multiple instances of it. For example, what happens from our BFSI, our knowledge of claims processing and operations in the BFSI sector lends itself very well to the demands of the healthcare sector or dynamic pricing, which has been a hallmark in the retail space for quite some time now, is being leveraged across a wider range like auto OEM and other transformation that we're seeing in multiple other industries. Coming to the 2nd big pillar of our differentiator, we've spoken a lot about contextual knowledge.
And this is the passive often undocumented knowledge about our customers' business operations and technology landscape that our teams pick up on the job from extended exposure to that environment. At TCS, we value this knowledge immensely because this is at the core of coming up with differentiated solutions that best address our customers' business problems and integrate seamlessly with their IT landscape. Knowing what works or doesn't work in a particular environment given the nuances of the systems, databases and mix of technologies in this environment can go a long way to both accelerate as well as avoid costly mistakes and reduce risk for our customers and saving time and resources. Contextual knowledge, because of its nature, is also very highly differentiated and difficult to obtain. It is only by working on the systems over a prolonged period that individuals pick up these insights.
Combined with that fact is our focus on talent retention, which allows us to continuously develop and invest and build on this knowledge pool. We've been investing into this. We've spoken a lot about it. But this quarter, we have also had a big milestone that I would like to share on this. We have formally run programs to recognize and nurture this talent.
And in this quarter, that program has now crossed 10,000 contextual masters in TCS. And we are looking forward to increasing that number multifold as we go forward. Finally, coming to research and innovation. The 3rd big differentiator is our tradition of investing ahead of the curve in research and innovation and proactively coming up with innovative new solutions that can solve our customers' business problems. In many instances, the innovation results in intellectual property, products, platforms or other accelerators that can help customers accelerate business value realization for new profitable revenue streams for us.
Samik has already covered the strong performance of our products and platforms. I won't go over that again. But it is increasingly becoming a core component of our solution footprint across our largest customers. This context and of earlier 2 differentiators, I would say that our most productive research and innovation initiatives have been at the intersection of industries and technology. And one of these areas being cyber insurance, an example of that.
This is a suite of solutions and services to help insurers adopt the insight based risk selection and pricing for their cyber products. But so many of these themes we have spoken about in the past. What we have seen is a renewed urgency and a renewed demand for many of these solutions. We have said in the past that the technology imperative and the technology availability has always been there. The financial capability to invest has also been there.
What was in shorter supply was a very strong business imperative to do so. The current circumstances have unfortunately addressed that business imperative by bringing home the importance of that resiliency that is so core to continued growth and transformation. So we are well positioned to participate in that. And this quarter is example of that participation, and which is why we believe that it positions us well going forward. With that, we can open the line for questions.
Thank you.
Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. From Axif Capital. Please go ahead.
Yes. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on a great comeback. What percentage of the growth in the quarter were due to easing of supply side constraint and seasonality and what would be otherwise?
Shashi, not very meaningful from a supply side perspective. So I don't have a breakup for it, but it is not very meaningful.
Okay. Do you think the pace of digital a sticky in nature? And also do you think ROI expectation of clients for these digital investments have increased or is it at the same level where it was pre COVID level?
Good question. If you look at we have been speaking about this multi horizon technology cycle. What we are currently seeing is a significant focus on resiliency, digital core and digital collaboration. And a lot of it is being achieved by significantly adopting cloud technologies and migrating enterprise workloads on both on the productivity side as well as on core enterprise functionality side onto these hyperscalers platforms. That is Phase 1, we believe, and it does deliver on the resiliency part.
But once this migration is done, this actually significantly opens up the opportunity to start incrementally exploiting native capabilities of these platforms. And that is the real business value driver that will come. And given that the heavy lifting and the friction of this migration is getting addressed currently driven by the urgency of the pandemic. We believe that post that Phase 2 would almost be an inevitability. So timing and velocity of it, we would not be able to comment on right now.
But I believe that we are over a very, very important technological hump, if you will, in terms of going to the new technology architecture of the future. And that is why our optimism comes that's where the optimism comes from. What was your second question?
Second question was on ROI, I expect this and all.
ROI, yes. In fact, that's an interesting question. So if you think about it, all these value that we've spoken about, adaptability, resilience, security, etcetera, these existed in these technology platforms. But the reason the adoption was not as fast was because business cases were routinely underplaying the value of resilience, the value of security, the value of adaptability. But what the pandemic has done, unfortunately, but what it has actually emphasized is it has very immediately put a business value to this resilience.
So I don't think that the ROI expectation has changed. It is actually the numerator has suddenly got many more line items whose reality has been emphasized beyond doubt. So that is what is driving the accelerated decision. The technology always existed. The capabilities existed.
It just didn't pass the business case when compared against a depreciated asset. And now it's a completely new lens that people are looking at it from. And that will continue, and that hump is gone. The good thing is that the next phase is low CapEx phase with significantly higher ROI because it is incremental spend rather than single heavy asset shift kind of a model.
And last one from my side, this H2 FY 'twenty one outlook. Do you think seasonality would have similar impact as of yesteryears? Or is the tailwind strong enough to offset some of these headwinds like fall shutdowns?
I would not like to comment about the SI beyond the current quarter year. So we'll have to wait and see how it unfolds.
Thanks a lot and all the best for us.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Sandeep Agrawal from Edelweiss. Please go ahead.
Yes. Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on a very, very great set of number and congrats on very good execution and very good commentary. So Rajesh, I have one very simple question.
How you are seeing that correlation of data cheaper and wider availability of data and higher speed with cloud adoption and digital pre pandemic and post pandemic, if there is a view you can share? And secondly, how are you seeing the movement of digital because what the sense when we see the numbers looks like our business is also becoming very, very B2C kind of transformation is happening versus B2B earlier. And I think that leads to a very bigger and sustainable accessibility or adaptability of the technology versus earlier. Are these inferences right or you would say that it is too early to call back?
Sandeep, not sure I understood your question fully, so let me attempt it. But we are seeing entirely our commentary and the demand that we're seeing is very, very focused on B2B. At the end part of it, our customers are focused on customer experience, they are focused on employee experience, but our clientele remains very strongly large global enterprises. And that is where our focus is and that is where the opportunity is. We are not seeing a shift into a B2C business model at our level.
The question in terms of adoption of digital technologies, data, etcetera, that is very real. The current focus has been more on the infrastructure resilience side. The next element of it will be in building multi faceted digital core. And the exploitation of these in true business value terms beyond over and beyond the resilience factors will come when the data is exploited and new business model are created based on that data set. So we are actually going to be seeing much faster adoption of many of the themes that you've spoken of in the past.
None of this is new. It is just that we are now, as we said, beyond a certain threshold from which the incremental adoption can be much faster.
Yes, thanks. Actually, the answer which you answered first also, my question was written, I think not clear, but the answer was right. So I was just trying to understand that because of wider adaptability of digital, the B2C piece which your customer actually goes and generate revenue and make decision making that basically has more cascading effect now than earlier. So I got your answer. Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Sudhir Bundapalli from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.
Yes. Good evening, gentlemen, and congrats on a stronger than expected comeback. My first question is on Europe geography. Does this trend have to do more with the fact that most of the economies within this continent have broadly recovered from the medical situation? Or it has to do more with the fact that more with the general trend that we are significantly ahead of competition in this particular geography.
What I'm trying to understand is that as other geographies also come out of the medical situation, can the current robustness in Europe both on demand and supply be a good lead indicator?
I think it's a combination of all these factors. It is, I mean, about the sustained investment that we've done in this geography and the customer relationships and the footprint that we have built has also the, I would say, the earlier recovery trajectory that many of these or earlier normalcy trajectory that many of these countries enjoyed. So it's a combination of all of it. And we have seen us have very good revenue momentum in this geography in the past. So it's kind of reverting back to that growth trajectory what we are experiencing.
Sure, Rajesh. And deal lines this quarter excluding FinEx, which is $6,100,000,000 it looks a tad lower than average of the previous two quarters. In the press briefing, you gave some color about the nature and size of the deals. Apart from the typical lumpiness, is there some other trend which is worth noting here?
Not much, as I said. I spoke about it in the press, like you said. This quarter has been particularly characterized by much larger volume of relatively smaller sized deals. But when we look into our pipeline, the distribution is not very different from what has been in the past. So there could be various explanations for it, but we don't see any structural shift to the overall nature of the deal, just that this quarter has been more about the smaller TCVs and a much more broad based wider participation across the large customer set.
Sure, Rajesh. One last question to Ramkhi. Sir, margins are now within your aspirational band of 26, 28. Excluding some seasonal factors like, let's say, wage hikes, which are impending, do you believe margins can be sustained at this level or expanded going forward? What are the pluses and minuses you see from the current level?
Definitely, I think we believe it can be sustained. And primarily, growth momentum has to be also an important factor. And you rightly pointed out, so we will have some impact from when we roll out the salary increases, etcetera. But this is definitely, we have been working on various efficiency levers across the business. And as I said earlier, the broad based revenue growth also brings in its own efficiencies.
So I think we are confident, Sandeep.
Sure, sir.
Thanks and
all this.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Divya Nagarajan from UBS Securities. Please go ahead.
Thanks for taking the question. Congrats on a strong quarter and a good comeback after Q1. I think many of my questions have already been answered, but just wanted to get some color on from a contract flow perspective, what are the big change that you're seeing in what you've seen in post COVID contract flows and the nature of contract flows to what you were looking at earlier? Specifically, is it just that you're seeing an acceleration in the pace at which customers are moving? Or has the nature of contracts also started to change?
That's question 1. Secondly, I think on the press conference, you talked about some exaggerated Q3 behaviors. Could you kind of elaborate on what you meant by that? Thanks.
Could you repeat, Sadri, exaggerated?
You talked about some exaggerated seasonality going into the second half. So I just wanted to understand what you were saying there.
So the nature of deal wins, as I commented earlier, has been more baked towards medium and small deals this quarter. But we don't necessarily see this as a trend while we are watching it because as I said, the pipeline itself composition is much more classical than what this Q2's numbers are. The decision making, nothing dramatic for us to be able to call out a movement in one way or the other. The digital transformation agenda is side and center with all CXO levels. So we are seeing much more traction across the wider executive suite.
But I wouldn't be there's nothing further color that we can currently add to it, and we'll wait and see how it progresses. From an exaggerated impact of Q3, we are seeing some amount of dialogue along those lines. And I don't want to call out till it is a specific one, But we'll have to wait for another month or so to see whether that picks up steam. The current daily momentum the current revenue momentum that we have will be a tailwind, and the seasonality talk that you're hearing would be a headwind. We'll have to balance it out and see where it lands up.
I'm sorry, but we can't we don't have much more visibility to share with you currently.
Got it. Just as a follow-up, I think it was good to see the retail pickup this quarter. Could you kind of break this down into how much of that recovery was because your customers have started spending more? And how much of it is to some of the unique offerings that you have within the retail space?
No, it's a combination of both. I wouldn't be able to break it up that way. But one, I don't know whether you picked up, I shared that I think in the press conference that retail CPG as a subsegment of our overall retail. So if you exclude Travel and Hospitality, revenue growth is positive on a year on year basis. And that has been driven a lot by changes that are happening with what you call the essential retailers.
And they have been at the forefront of leveraging all forms of technology transformation, both on the e commerce side as well as significantly on data security and also our product suite, which we call Optima is being a big component of participation in this space, whether it is dynamic pricing, merchandising, store allocation, inventory and supply chain optimization. Across the full spectrum, our solutions have found very good resonance. So it is essentially driven by new technology spend among whole space of retailers, especially on what you would call essential retailers. Discretionary retail still continues to be weak And that will the holiday season will have a big impact. We'll see whether they recover strongly during the holiday season.
Got it. And just a last follow-up on the earlier question on the pipeline. You said that the pipeline that you have is much more classical in terms of price distribution. But specifically, in the last 3 months or the last 4 or 5 months post pandemic, Has there been have you seen large deals continue to new large deals continue to come into the pipeline the way you were seeing it before?
Yes. If you're asking have new deals come into the pipeline, absolutely, yes. Quite a few of them are there. But they are also progressing well. So there is no delay that you're seeing.
There's a lot of interest and they're progressing well. We'll have to wait and see how the conversion happens.
Okay. Thanks for taking my question and wish you all the best for Mr.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Pankaj Kapoor from CLSA. Please go ahead.
Yes. Hi. Thanks for the opportunity and congratulation on a good quarter. Rajesh, even in March, April when you spoke and everybody was generally uncertain, you had talked of a strong V shape kind of a recovery coming in the especially in the second half. So given the way things have played out in the last few months, do you think the pace of recovery has been much stronger than you have reassessed it?
And was there any advancement of the growth from the second half now to the second quarter itself?
Absolutely, Pankaj. This was far. I wouldn't say dramatically faster than what we said, but this was slightly faster than what we expected. Remember that we are still minus 3% on a constant currency basis from a year on year perspective. So our target of trying to we had first set a target saying let's get back to the INR high point by Q3 and flat by Q4 on a constant currency basis.
So we are still touch and go on whether we can bring the Q4 forward to Q3. We'll have to wait and see whether we can achieve constant currency flat in Q3. I'm not 100% on that yet. The positivity in the demand environment, earlier, we had shared that on the expectation that this is not a structuring breakdown of a given industry unlike what happened in 2000 during the GSE time. And we are also counted on the positive impact of the significant balance sheet help that governments had very rapidly committed to, both the volume and the speed at which it had happened.
And all of that has actually helped because definitely in many industries that balance sheet health has been at the been a pillar or a cornerstone of the recovery and investment sentiment that we have seen. So short answer, it is better than what we had originally anticipated, but not very dramatically different than what we said. And we are on that trajectory with a slight, I would say, slightly ahead.
Understood. And your caution on the second half, is it largely centric on the macro variables like how whether there will be a second wave, etcetera? Or this is something at a micro level also where you see any risk?
One is, of course, the health side. If that happens, it's, of course, a totally predictable one. And on the more economy side, as this balance sheet support gets withdrawn, if it is withdrawn, we'll have to see how it plays out because that's also unexplored territory. So there are significant uncertainties still. That's why I was also mentioned in multiple forums that the recovery is real and directionally, it is definitely positive.
But we need to be careful because we are not out of the woods by any stretch of imagination.
Understood. And just lastly, obviously, there is a strong spend on digital, which is boosting your digital portfolio. But do you think that because of this increased investment in digital, is there some cutback happening on the legacy services portfolio of ours either in terms of volume shrinkage or in terms of pricing?
Pankaj, yes, we stopped calling this out because we fundamentally believe that it's very difficult now to differentiate between digital and legacy. If you look at a lot of what this current quarter has been about, it is about moving existing workloads onto the cloud. And that requires a very in-depth knowledge of the existing technology landscape of the applications, the environments, the nuances of it and also a good appreciation of the 2P environment and how to move these kind of ones. In fact, for one of the European customers, we are deploying mainframe solutions on private and hybrid cloud kind of environment. So would you call it legacy, would you call it digital, these distinctions no longer make sense.
What is important is that technology agenda or technology is front and center on every CXO agenda, every board agenda, and we are very well positioned to participate from that.
Understood. Thank you and wish you all the best for the rest of the year.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Ankur Rudra from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Hi, thank you. Congratulations on a very strong broad based performance. Rajesh, as you are seeing the signs of recovery and demand from your perspective, could you elaborate the main things which give you confidence that this is a multiyear secular demand recovery as opposed to a cyclical recovery from the things
we saw a few quarters ago? Anurag, it's based on this, what should I say, the call that I think I said it in the beginning of this call also. The big hump was committing to the new architecture. And the new architecture is the cloud architecture. It is the hyperscaler architecture.
And that hump is being crossed. And once it is crossed onto that, the decision to actually consume the native capabilities there and therefore the decision to incrementally keep on changing the architecture to be more aligned to the capabilities there will be a much easier decision. So we believe that what this pandemic has done is to actually kind of give a push over the technology hump. And that hump of you are comparing the potential unknown future benefits against highly depreciated technology asset and asking yourself does it make sense. That question went out of the window and the jump has been made and the jump is being currently made and that should portend well for the future demand for many of the good things that we have been talking about for quite some time.
So that is where the thesis is built on. We fundamentally believe that is true. This is based on our interactions with our customers. But you need to make your own call on whether you believe in that thesis or not.
Understood. Thank you. And just one follow-up on the demand side. You mentioned that the your order book is full of smaller deals and or at least medium sized deals as opposed to before. Are you seeing for these kind of deals, sales cycles shortening because access to decision makers is faster?
And also, are you seeing any kind of acceleration on execution from deal to revenues because maybe perhaps virtual onboarding is faster in the current environment? How do you see that change?
Oncocca, the small and medium ones, absolutely. Faster deal cycles, faster execution. We are now routinely onboarding on a 100% virtual home across a wide spectrum of services, not just I mean, traditional as well as new and very, very fast dynamic standing up of teams. And it is the while still small, but as VWO has the impact on fast turnaround in new deals is very, very visible and gaining momentum. So absolutely, that's the case.
And the larger deals, as I said, that the pipeline is there and we'll have to see how the conversion happens.
And just last question on the you had 6 months now living with the pandemic. Any further thoughts of your talent model, any incremental streamlining on your how you're thinking about this on an overall basis?
Nothing significantly different from what we have already been sharing. The biggest benefit that we're looking at and the biggest change in the operating model is stand and compatibility because we should be able to maximize utilization of talent when we think about it as a much more fungible talent base. We were earlier more thinking regionally rather than collectively. So that is where the big opportunity lies. And we believe that now it is only a matter of time that we'll be actually be able to think of that as one single talent cloud because that acceptability threshold has been significantly reduced, and there'll be no going back on that now.
Makes sense. Thank you so much. Best of luck.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Prishik Barek from Nomura. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks for taking my question. Most of my questions have been answered, but just one question, Rajesh, for you. The urgency to drive digital transformation, do you think that it will over a longer term medium to longer term drive an increase in IT budgets across client segments? And while obviously, it's initial time, but any instances that you've seen to support that thesis? And second, where would the investment come from given client financials across the board are largely stretched, right, and recovery is still some time away across the board?
Absolutely, technology budgets will see increased money flowing to them. That is the core of our thesis. And we're seeing this in industry after industry. If you take retail, as I said, e commerce and touchless fulfillment has become a cornerstone. If you take manufacturing, automobiles, the entire dominance of a dealer centric customer outreach or channel system is being now challenged by much more digital front end solutions.
So something as traditional as automobile is significantly experimenting. I wouldn't say still shifting, but experimenting with something that was almost unheard of a year back or so. And areas like health care, we are seeing a very structural shift from location centric to a very centralized kind of an architecture to a much more decentralized service delivery architecture. We are seeing shift from more fee based to value based models as the data centric nature of the health care industry keeps on unfolding. So industry after industry, we are seeing a very meaningful commitment to leveraging technology in very core business model changes, and that can only be good from a technology budget perspective.
And on the where will the funding come from? Actually, as I said in
the past
also, client balance sheets were in very good shape. So if you leave aside a few stressed sectors like airlines, client balance sheets going into these prices were in a very good shape. So the funding per se or the accessibility to funds was never an issue. It was more the rationale and the business rationale, which was not always a meeting of whatever was the decision making thresholds that were kept. That has got addressed.
I don't believe investable surplus was the issue that was holding
it back.
Okay. And just one question on retail, right? While you answered partly some of it, but if I look at just some of the data points that's coming out of the U. S, right, in general, I think we've seen a larger a higher increase in bankruptcy rates there, right? So do you think the recovery that we've seen now is more sustainable?
Or do you think it's more lead to drive sort of investments or make yourself ready for the upcoming holiday season and that's what's driven the current share of PIC?
I think it's more sustainable. It is the surviving ones investing more to ensure that they don't go down the same path. It's been similarly, the U. S. Is very efficient in recycling assets and protecting potential future value.
So bankruptcy itself is always a positive driver there or mostly a positive driver there. And their path out of bankruptcy will also be technology driven. So I think it's a very efficient market there, and it is acting as you would expect it to.
Perfect. Thank you so much, and congrats on a good quarter.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Deepav Singhal from Philip Capital. Please go ahead.
Yes. Good evening. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on a great set of numbers. So just one question from my side. So Padej, just wanted to pick your brain on basically given the possibility to U.
S. Elections and given the uncertainty that we have in terms of how long the actual results might be out this time given the posted allowed of the ASCO and everything. Do you are we seeing some delay in deal closures from the client side or some delay in decision making? I know we probably keep asking these questions every 4 years. But is this some kind of a delay that we are seeing on the ground as of now?
Or it's probably the same thing and nothing much that has changed?
From a business decision making perspective, I don't think we have seen any significant impact due to the election cycles.
Okay. And if at all there is some things you believe that it could probably alleviate some back post election as it always does in the GSM quarter?
I don't want to speculate on that. There are many more well informed people who write extensively about it.
Fair enough. This is Amartya. Thanks a lot for taking my questions.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. I now hand the conference over to the management for the closing comments.
Thank you. And let's close by saying that in July, we had said that the peak impact of the pandemic was behind us. And I'm happy that we have rebounded sharply from there with a 4.8% sequential growth. Our operating margin has also expanded nicely by 260 basis points to 26.2 with a net margin of 21%. The growth as well as our very strong order book of $8,600,000,000 was driven by market share gains and increased spending by customers along 3 broad teams, customer experience, employee experience and operational resilience.
On the people front, we onboarded about 8,000 freshers entirely virtually and also ramped up our hiring to support our growth. Our investments in organic talent development saw a surge in the learning effort during this quarter. Our retention continues to be an industry benchmark and a significant competitive differentiator for us with IT services attrition at 8.9%, which is an all time low. Looking ahead, we will need to ride out the storm the short term volatility. But in the medium and longer term, we will benefit from the multiyear technology upgradation cycle that is playing out as enterprises embrace the hyperscale platforms and use their native capabilities to fuel their innovation and competitive differentiation.
Our expertise on these platforms as well as our industry knowledge and customer specific contextual knowledge and our investments in research and innovation positions us very well to benefit fully from this secular tailwind. Thank you all for joining us on this call today and wish you all a very good night. Stay safe.
Thank you, members of the management. On behalf of TCS, that concludes this conference call. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.