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Q1 26/27

Aug 17, 2026

Summary

Standalone and consolidated revenues grew strongly year-over-year, with robust volume growth in engineering and e-mobility segments. Margin pressures from steel and input costs are expected to normalize as price recoveries flow through, and management guides for continued double-digit growth in medical and export momentum.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Tube Investments Q1 FY 2027 earnings call hosted by IIFL Capital Services Limited. All participants are currently in listen-only mode. There will be an opportunity to ask questions following the conclusion of the management's opening remarks. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Joseph George from IIFL Capital. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Joseph George
Analyst, IIFL Capital

Thank you, Swapnel. On behalf of IIFL Capital, I welcome you all to the Q1 FY 2027 results conference call of Tube Investments of India Limited. From the management, we have with us Mr. M.A.M. Arunachalam, Executive Chairman, Mr. Mukesh Ahuja, Managing Director, Mr. A.N. Meyyappan, Chief Financial Officer, as well as all the divisional heads. I will now hand over the call to the management for opening remarks, after which we will have Q and A.

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Good morning, everyone. Just to give a commentary on this quarter result, the board of directors of Tube Investments of India Limited met on August 14, 2026 and approved the financial results for the quarter ended June 30, 2026. Standalone results for the quarter. Revenue in Q1 was at INR 2,366 crore against INR 2,007 crore in the same previous year. PBT was at INR 213 crore against INR 222 crore in the same period previous year. ROIC annualized stood at 41% for the quarter ended June 30, 2026, compared with 39% in the previous year same period. Free cash flow for the quarter was INR 174 crore. Now I'll give the segmental review. The engineering revenue for the quarter was INR 1,566 crore, compared with INR 1,298 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year.

Profit before interest and tax for the quarter was INR 153 crore, which is same as the corresponding quarter of the previous year. Metal form product revenue for the quarter was INR 408 crore, compared with INR 366 crore in the corresponding quarter for the previous year. Profit before interest and tax for the quarter was INR 28 crore as against INR 37 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year. Mobility revenue for the quarter was INR 250 crore, compared with INR 198 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year. Profit before interest and tax for the quarter was INR 9 crore, against INR 7 crore in the corresponding quarter for the previous year.

For others, revenue for the quarter was INR 256 crore, compared with INR 236 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year. Profit before interest and tax for the quarter was INR 21 crore against INR 17 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year. TI consolidated revenue for the quarter was INR 6,215 crore against INR 5,309 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year. The profit before share of profit for JVs, exceptional items, and tax for the quarter was INR 461 crore against INR 449 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year. CG Power and Industrial Solutions Limited, a subsidiary in which company holds 56.29% stake, registered a consolidated revenue of INR 3,281 crore during the quarter against INR 2,878 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year.

Profit before tax for the quarter was INR 423 crore against INR 364 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year. Shanthi Gears Limited, a subsidiary company in the gears business in which company holds 70.46% stake, registered a revenue of INR 115 crore during the quarter against INR 135 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year. Profit before tax for the quarter was INR 14 crore against INR 31 crore in the corresponding quarter of the previous year. Thank you, and we are happy to take questions.

Operator

Thank you so much, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin with the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may click on the Raise Hand icon from the Participants tab on your screen. We will wait until we have the question queue assembled. Requesting participants to please click on the Raise Hand icon from the Participants tab on your screen. We will wait until we have the questions in queue. We will take a question now from Mr. Joseph George of IIFL Capital. Joseph, please go ahead.

Joseph George
Analyst, IIFL Capital

Hi. I have two, three questions. One is, if I look at the standalone performance, we have seen some pressure on margins because of which the EBIT growth in the engineering segment and the metal form segment was relatively muted. What I wanted to check is that, in the last couple of quarters, we have seen a lot of inflation. All OEMs and suppliers are talking about inflation. In that context, is there any price hikes that have yet to come from your customers, because of which we have seen a compression in margins? Or is the profitability in the quarter reflecting the underlying business dynamics?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Yeah. Thank you, Joseph, for your question. Joseph, as you are already aware, there was a lot of commodity steel pricing, which happened in the quarter four and quarter one, which has resulted into the lower margins. But basically, you are aware that TI maybe gets those price increases with a lag of sometimes two or three quarters. We are confident on the steel price increase particularly, we will be able to recover fully, and you will see the margin utilization will happen in the coming quarters.

Joseph George
Analyst, IIFL Capital

Sure, sir. Would it be possible to quantify the extent of under-recovery in the quarter so that we can think of or we can estimate what sustainable margin each of the segments is?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Joseph, maybe I would not like to give particular numbers. Maybe like we have given guidance, we will be able to grow a bit margin in the double digits and post the price recovery, we are confident that double-digit margin improvement will keep happening in the future also.

Joseph George
Analyst, IIFL Capital

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you so much, Joseph. We'll take our next question now from Devesh Kayal of Boring AMC. Devesh, please go ahead.

Devesh Kayal
Analyst, Boring AMC

Yeah. Hi. My question is on the TI Medical part. You mentioned in the annual report that the plant is running at peak capacity, and we did one acquisition in March 2026. I just want to understand how do we see this business from a three to five-year perspective. We did around INR 200 crores revenue. Can it be a three to five X business over the next three to five years? Yeah.

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Yeah. Thank you, Devesh, for the question. Just to give an overall view of the TI Medical business. There is a core business, which is basically a surgical business, which we are doing it. In the quarter one, we had a growth of almost close to 20% in that particular business. Second, to grow business, we have done a very small acquisition in the IV cannula, which is basically infusion therapy. These IV cannulas are used. We are expecting that business to start giving us revenue from this quarter onwards, basically August or September, this plant will start, and we'll start booking the revenue for that. Overall basis for TI Medical, as we said in the previous calls, we are confident to do 20% revenue growth year on year along with the profitability.

However, this medical business, what we have just acquired may take some time to do the customer acquisition as well as on the margin side. But the core business, we are confident the revenue growth and the profitability will continue in double digits.

Devesh Kayal
Analyst, Boring AMC

Understood. Sir, on this 3xper Innoventure Limited part, if you can also maybe give some color, because I understand like we are setting up 200 kL reactor capacity. If you can also, what is the trajectory there?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Govindji, are you there in the call? Govindji, are you there in the call?

N Govindarajan
CEO and Whole-time Director, 3xper Innoventure Limited

I am here. The 200 kL intermediate capacity, the commissioning has already happened. The validation batches are going on. The clean room is expected to get commissioned in the next 30-40 days. Meanwhile, while the commercial facility is getting commissioned, the semi-commercial facility, the validation batches will be supplied to the customer for triggering their PAS filing, which can trigger the inspection to the site should happen in the next 48 days. So in terms of the product will move to the customer. After that they have to take their batches, and then they will wait for the stability and file that will trigger the inspection. We expect the inspection to happen during the next financial year.

We are on track in terms of like, I think, to achieve the numbers whatever we had revised numbers, whatever we have projected, we are on track in terms of achieving that as of now.

Devesh Kayal
Analyst, Boring AMC

Understood. So with this business after the inspection next financially it could be on a growth trajectory.

N Govindarajan
CEO and Whole-time Director, 3xper Innoventure Limited

Yes, sir. Currently, we are already supplying our products to certain customers. For example, our semi commercial plant is already supplying commercial quantities for OTC product which has been launched in Europe, and the customer is likely to take the product for the global requirement. We have also supplied a key intermediate to one of the customers for their filing as well. So those work are going on. At any given time, we have around 15 customers who are working with us both for FDA purposes as well as certain products which would be supplied from the semi-commercial plant in Naidupeta.

Devesh Kayal
Analyst, Boring AMC

Understood. Sir, you haven't mentioned anything on the optoelectronics piece in our annual report. Just want to understand what's happening on the lenses cap side.

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Basically, your question is on DIOS?

Devesh Kayal
Analyst, Boring AMC

Yes, right.

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Maybe that business, like we shared the previous call, we are yet to make the inroads in that particularly, but we are continuing that business to get inroads into customer approvals for the export business because in the domestic market, basically these plants modules and the IV cannula modules manufacturing is yet to start. Bottom line is we are to make inroads on that business.

Devesh Kayal
Analyst, Boring AMC

Understood. That's it from my side .

Operator

Thank you, Devesh. We are taking our next question now from Salil Desai of Marcellus Investment Managers. Salil, please unmute your microphone.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Thanks. Hi. My first question is a follow-up to what Joseph was asking on this price lag of steel price increases. In your answer, just to clarify, means that you will also recover what you lost in Q1, right? It is not just that there is a lag on this passing on the cost hike. You also recover cumulatively what has been the under-recovery. Is that a fair-

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Yes.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Okay.

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Yeah, that assumption is right for steel prices, particularly including Q1 will be able to recover fully.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Okay. All right. My second question is again on the standalone business. The MFP, after a long time we have seen almost about 11.5% growth in revenues. If you can tell us what has changed here. Last couple of times you mentioned railways was a drag. If you can give an indication of what has changed on the MFP segment this quarter.

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

There are a couple of reasons there. Like you mentioned that railway is a drag, there is no doubt on that. While automobile industry has done pretty well, particularly Hyundai, where one of our business unit purely depends on them, and maybe let's say has not done well. So that is maybe also for this particular quarter, there was a drag on that. And rest of the two units, actually, like you are aware, we have declared to do a greenfield plant launch in the western region that is running delayed by six months. So capacity maybe in terms of expansion, whatever growth was there. So we are having a lag of six months to catch up on that. These all summation put together, there was a pressure on the revenue in the MFP division.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Okay. No, I was actually saying that this seems to be better than what you've done in the last few quarters. Was this volume-led or something else?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Volume-led only because price recovery is yet to pick. It's not volume-led in the particularly two businesses other than railways and the Hyundai business.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Okay. Understood. Thanks for clarifying. Next, two questions I have on the e-mobility business. One is our negative EBIT in the segment has come off by almost about, I think, INR 40 crore-INR 50 c rores in this quarter. Which particular product or segment has this happened? What have been the overall broader drivers of loss reduction?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yeah. Thanks, Salil. This is Jalaj.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Yeah.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Quarter one has been a very good quarter for us. We have recorded our highest ever turnover of close to INR 240 crore. I will say that out of all the four businesses, we are seeing traction in all four of them. When you look at the truck business, which is the HCV business, the momentum is continued from the quarter four. When it comes to the small commercial vehicle business, we have recorded highest ever volumes in any quarter in the quarter one. Even including the three-wheeler business, if you recall, in quarter four, we had reported there were some challenges on one of the supply side, which impacted our production volume. All those challenges are behind us now, and quarter one recorded almost a 64% kind of improvement over quarter four volume.

The overall volumes being good and your observation regarding the margins is also correct. I will say all the businesses are now seeing traction in terms of their volumes. Because the volumes are increasing, although, yes, there is a headwind of the inflationary pressure or the commodity pressure, including the sale prices, but we have been able to post a decent, I will say, performance if not a very good performance.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

All right, thanks. Just to be sure, there is nothing in one-off no benefit this quarter. This is a regular routine volume growth that is driving margins.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yes.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Great. Lastly, if you can share volumes for each of these products for the quarter.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yeah. The billing volumes, the big trucks was 86 numbers. The three-wheeler business was 1,924. The small commercial vehicle was 347, and tractor was 22 numbers.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Okay. Great, Jalaj. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you, Salil. We will take our next question now. We have Prithvi Raj E of Unifi Capital. Prithvi, please unmute your microphone and go ahead.

Prithvi Raj E
Fund Manager, Unifi Capital

Yeah. My first question is on EV business, and it is good to see finally some traction there. Given what we are seeing at this point, is it fair to assume that we are behind the peak quarterly losses for this particular segment?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Can you just repeat, Prithvi, can you just please repeat your question again?

Prithvi Raj E
Fund Manager, Unifi Capital

Are we behind the peak losses for the EV business at this point of time? Do you also have any timeline for breakeven?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yeah. Prithvi, directionally, yes. Directionally, as we see our volumes increasing quarter and quarter, your first statement regarding us being behind or us beyond the peak losses for a quarter is a correct one. Directionally, what you're saying is correct. That's what the endeavor would be. Your second question was? Can you just repeat the second question again? Thank you.

Operator

Prithwi, you're on mute right now.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yeah.

Prithvi Raj E
Fund Manager, Unifi Capital

On the breakeven timeline for the EV business.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Prithwi, this will vary from business to business. There are some business which will break even early, and there are some businesses which will go into the breakeven later. We are expecting one of our business to break even this year and maybe two of them to break even next financial year.

Prithvi Raj E
Fund Manager, Unifi Capital

Okay, that is clear. On the engineering side, is it possible to share the volume growth during the quarter?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Volume grew about 17%.

Prithvi Raj E
Fund Manager, Unifi Capital

Okay, got it. Thanks. That is all from my side.

Operator

Thank you, Prithwi.

Prithvi Raj E
Fund Manager, Unifi Capital

Yes, okay.

Operator

Requesting participants, if you wish to ask a question, please click on the raise hand icon from the participants tab on your screen. We will take another question now. We have Joseph George again with his question. Joseph, please unmute.

Joseph George
Analyst, IIFL Capital

Yes. I had a couple of questions. One is on the EV side, the volumes that you have given, especially on the three-wheeler side. We track in volumes of registrations on the VAHAN website. What I noticed is that the wholesale volume that you have given is somewhat higher than the retail registrations that we are seeing. Is it that things have picked up substantially over the last one or two months and as a result, in anticipation, you have wholesaled more and this is something that we will see in the registrations data in the coming quarter or so?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yeah. Joseph, thanks for the question. See, there is always a lag between the billing and the VAHAN, but over a period of time, the two tend to match. Since you specifically mentioned three-wheeler business. Let's say last financial year, our billing was about 6,700 and our VAHAN registration was about 6,500. Specifically to quarter one, if you recall, we reported that there were some production link challenge in quarter one. Consequently, our billing in quarter four was only 1,200 numbers as compared to quarter one was 1,924 numbers. So in a growing business, specifically, let's say in Q1, our opening pendency for VAHAN would always be lesser than the closing pendency for VAHAN. So maybe that's the other part of it.

But over a period of three to four months, max six months, the numbers always tally between the VAHAN and the primary or the billing numbers which we declare. But usually there is a time lag of at least 30 to 45 days between billing and VAHAN.

Joseph George
Analyst, IIFL Capital

Understood, sir. That's very clear. The second question that I had was, when we think about FY 2027 or rather, when we looked at FY 2026, there were some investments that has gone out from the standalone entity into some of these new ventures, subsidiaries, et cetera. When we think about FY 2027, what is the amount that you have allocated in terms of cash flow from the standalone entity into some of these subsidiaries, if that has been budgeted for already?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Joseph, like we shared in the previous calls also, we have only infused INR 250 crore in the last quarter, maybe basically Q4 of the last financial year. We anticipate maybe in Q3, we will infuse another INR 250 crore. We have given a guidance of total put together about INR 750 crore infusion will happen over a period of time. Second tranche of that will happen in Q3.

Joseph George
Analyst, IIFL Capital

Understood, sir. Thank you. That is all I had.

Operator

Thank you, Joseph. We have another question coming in from Anupam Gupta of HDFC. Anupam, please go ahead.

Anupam Gupta
Analyst, HDFC

Yeah. Morning, sir. Can you hear me?

Operator

Yes, Anupam.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yeah. Morning.

Anupam Gupta
Analyst, HDFC

Yeah. A few questions. Firstly, on the core business, both engineering and metal form, you said specifically that steel you will be able to recover. But, let's say other costs, which you had mentioned in the last call, that there are other costs which are higher because of the raw material crisis. How are you able to manage that, and when do you think that will normalize for you?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Anupam , this quantum of increase, it is happening maybe first time. We have already taken up with all our customers. As of now, we are in the verge of discussions with all the OEMs to recover, which is a non-steel inflation, which is basically fuel freight extra. Maybe we'll let you know maybe another quarter down the line time how those conversations are going on. But we are hopeful majority of that we'll be able to recover as on this moment.

Anupam Gupta
Analyst, HDFC

Okay. Basically, both for engineering and metal form, you should revert to your older margin levels, which you were seeing in last year.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yes.

Anupam Gupta
Analyst, HDFC

Okay. Second question is basically on the cycles business. We have seen a very strong growth in this quarter. In fact, it has been happening for last few quarters that you have been recovering. Your margins also have recovered quite a bit here. If you can just give a sense of what is driving the improvement and how sustainable that is.

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Anupam , you are aware of that basically quarter one of every financial year, it is very good for the cycle business particularly because schools will be opening, colleges will be opening, and which maybe I am happy to state maybe we have encashed those growths fully, rather we have improved our even share of business. That is what is resulted into a margin expansion in that particular business. We are hopeful, like we shared maybe at least another 2 basis points in the cycle business, we will be able to improve margin for the overall year, current financial year.

Operator

Anupam, you are on mute right now. Sorry, Anupam. Please unmute your microphone.

Anupam Gupta
Analyst, HDFC

Sorry. When you said 2 basis point, basically you are saying 5-ish percentage points for the cycle business, that is what the target margins are?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

As of now, yes, but we are further working it out to improve beyond that.

Anupam Gupta
Analyst, HDFC

Understood. One question on Orange Koi, which you have mentioned in your notes. That is part of which segment in the reported results, and what do you plan for that business?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Anupam, right now it is part of other segment.

Anupam Gupta
Analyst, HDFC

Okay. What is-

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

It is very small right now. Sorry?

Anupam Gupta
Analyst, HDFC

What is the plan for the next few years? Do you plan to scale it up or how do you look at that business?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Anupam, this is a very small business which we have acquired. Basically, it is a step towards additive manufacturing, which is metal injection molding. This is a small startup which we have acquired to develop the capability. Going forward, we will be scaling it up. First one or two quarters, we would like to study what market and what segment we want to play. Maybe I think two quarters down the line, we will give you guidance on this business also.

Anupam Gupta
Analyst, HDFC

Sure, sir. Just one last question. CDMO also is part of other segment or is it part of medical?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

Yeah, it is part of others only.

Anupam Gupta
Analyst, HDFC

Okay, fine. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, Anupam. We request participants, if you wish to ask a question, please click on the raise hand icon. We have a follow-up question coming in from Salil Desai from Marcellus Investment Managers. Salil, please go ahead.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Thanks. My question again is on the EV segment, right? This is specifically related to Jayem. This I understand is largely services business. But yet at EBIT level, we have a negative number in this for the whole of FY 2026, although revenue growth has been pretty solid at 30%-35%. So what is happening here? What is the outlook? If you can give some more details.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yeah. So there has been some headwinds which Jayem has been facing when it comes to design and development, which has been the core business for Jayem. However, the outlook looks good because Jayem has now diversified into battery manufacturing, which has a good potential going forward. So in this financial year, they have a battery assembly line set up. Going forward, apart from the core business of design and development and fast prototyping, validation and testing, these two were the core business for Jayem. We will see a third revenue generation stream of battery business also coming in. So the outlook for Jayem for top line as well as the bottom line looks positive.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

And these batteries are for the group's consumption or this is going to be a commercial factory?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yeah. To start with, because they are in the process of ramping up, they would be for in-house consumption, primarily for the small commercial vehicle business and three-wheeler business. However, over a period of time, as they expand in capacity, et cetera, Jayem would be selling it outside to any other EV player as well.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Okay. Thanks. Secondly, maybe Mukesh, you can answer this. For the group as a whole, if you leave out CG Power, what are your CapEx commitments currently and what are the timelines in terms of those coming on stream?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

One second, Salil. CG Power.

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

I can just tell you this. In TI, we are planning around INR 350 crores of plans for the current financial year. Shanthi Gears will be around INR 100 crores. If you take group as a whole, you see something like INR 600-INR 700 crores.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

This question was particularly in CG Power.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Yes. I said if you leave out CG Power. Other than CG Power.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Leaving CG Power. Yes.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Okay.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Right.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

These numbers, these are part of specific projects. If you can just give some light on where you are spending money and by when those individual projects get completed.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

In core business, basically the money will be going towards the engineering division and then MFPD division. The rest maybe money will be going in basically TI Medical and 3xper CDMO business.

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Salil, do you have any more questions?

Salil Desai
Portfolio Counsellor and senior investment team member, Marcellus Investment Managers

No, I am done. Thanks.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Thank you, Salil.

Operator

We have a question coming in from Harshvardhan Kothari. Harshvardhan, please unmute your microphone and go ahead. Sorry, would you like to try it one more time? We are unable to hear you. Harshvardhan, please unmute your microphone and go ahead with your question. We do not have a response from Harshvardhan. We will take our next question now. We have Ketan Sanghavi. Ketan, please go ahead.

Ketan Sanghavi
Shareholder, Private Investor

I just wanted to get some clarity on the external investors that we have in TI Clean Mobility. When is the conversion likely to happen? Could you please give me a sense of what stake they are likely to end up at, post the conversion? That is it. Thank you.

Mahavir Pandey
Company Representative, Tube Investments of India

Hi, yeah. This is Mahavir Pandey. Actually, we have three investors over there, external investors are there. They have invested in CCPS. The conversion happens only at the time of IPO. IPO, we have a time, and there is no fixed timeline for this. Once the market is there and once we start selling more and revenue starts coming up and once the profitability comes, we will go to the market for IPO. At that point, it will get converted. Another question which you asked, what will be the stake at that point in time. That will be decided based upon the market at that point in time. Whatever the valuation which we are going to get, that point in time, it will get decided.

Ketan Sanghavi
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay. Thank you so much.

Mahavir Pandey
Company Representative, Tube Investments of India

Yeah. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, Ketan. We request participants, if you wish to ask a question, please click on the raise hand icon from the participants app. We have another follow-up question here. We have Prithvi Raj E again with Unifi Capital. Prithvi Raj, please go ahead.

Prithvi Raj E
Fund Manager, Unifi Capital

Yeah. This is a follow-up question on the engineering segment. You had a very strong growth of 17% volume. How is the demand environment now? Are you seeing similar momentum to continue? Could you explain how the exports are shaping up?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

It's a good question. Maybe I can guess how the markets will turn out, I think it is beyond anybody's imagination. But at least for the next one or two quarters, we feel it is going to be bullish. Exports also have done pretty well in particularly quarter one, and there also is a growth of more than a good double digit. Growth has happened in the exports also, and we expect that momentum to continue. Reasons other than beyond our control, like geopolitical situation can maybe put a hurdle. Otherwise, customer relationship and the new product development, whatever we've done, all things are intact.

Prithvi Raj E
Fund Manager, Unifi Capital

Currently, how much is exports as a percentage of revenue?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

At a TI level, it is about 14%.

Prithvi Raj E
Fund Manager, Unifi Capital

Great. On the domestic demand, which are the segments that are contributing to this strong demand?

Mukesh Ahuja
Managing Director, Tube Investments of India

I think across maybe quarter one was a very bullish quarter. Across the segments, across the vehicle categories, I think there was strong momentum. Maybe only I think Hyundai was not able to contribute, which I am pretty sure they are working on new model developments. That also will help. But across the segments and geography, demand was pretty good.

Prithvi Raj E
Fund Manager, Unifi Capital

Thank you. That is all from my side.

Operator

Thank you, Prithvi We have Mr. Harshvardhan Kothari back. We will allow him. Mr. Kothari, please unmute your microphone.

Harshvardhan Kothari
Shareholder, Private Investor

Am I audible right now?

Operator

Yes, we can hear you.

Harshvardhan Kothari
Shareholder, Private Investor

Thank you, sir. I have got a couple of questions with respect to TI Clean Mobility. Recently, we have exported our first consignment of three-wheeler autos to Nepal and a few other African countries. Could you please give me some color on that? What was the volume? What was the first consignment like for the volume?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yeah. Thanks, Harshvardhan. Harshvardhan, right now, what the markets we are exploring is, A, India-like market, which is Nepal and Sri Lanka, and B, some of the African countries like Tanzania and Ethiopia. However, Tanzania and Ethiopia and the African market are more at an exploratory stage right now. Where we have truly made a breakthrough is Nepal market, where you would have picked up from the news as well that we have exported our consignment in Nepal. About 100 + is the unit which have been shipped or in the process of getting shipped to Nepal. And initial product feedback is very positive. And we are very bullish on Nepal as a country going forward. This is what we can share at this point of time.

Harshvardhan Kothari
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay. Thank you. My second question, as just got highlighted a few moments back about the rising cell demand globally, and there have been bottlenecks for acquiring the same. So how are we positioned for that?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yes. It's a genuine challenge which we are grappling with and has been one of the challenge for us in quarter one. And going forward, at least for two, three quarters, we see this as a challenge because there used to be some tax exemption which some of the cell manufacturers used to enjoy from the Chinese government, which we see that over a period of next two, three quarters will get lifted. So we were anticipating the cell prices to go down. However, in light of what's happening across the world and also growing demand for BESS business, which is battery energy storage system, we are seeing some challenges on the cell prices. However, in our case, what we are relying is in terms of pre-booking some of the orders with long lead time items and locking the prices with the cell and the battery manufacturers.

However, these are all the mitigating step that we are doing, but directionally, the cell prices are not looking like to cool down, at least in this quarter or even in quarter three as well.

Harshvardhan Kothari
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay. And sir, regarding our heavy commercial vehicle portfolio, what is our order book visibility for tippers?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Tippers, we introduced in quarter one in the market. What we offer is a 28 ton tipper. The market seems to be shifting more towards 35 ton and higher category of tipper, which we are contemplating developing for our product portfolio. As far as the existing tippers are concerned, we have sold about 20, 25 numbers of tippers, and the initial feedback is positive.

Also, keeping in view the order book, which we have for some of the other products where we have a confirmed order book, and given the kind of challenges which we had on the supply chain, including that of cell, right now, the focus is more to service that particular order book which is for 4 x 2 tractor trailer, while continuing to seed in more volumes of our tipper, which will hopefully give us a bulk deal and then probably, we'll start producing and selling them as well.

Harshvardhan Kothari
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay. Another question on HCV side. It was previously indicated that we have some good inquiries coming in from ports. Any new deployments over there?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Welspun at Anjar Port in Gujarat, and Welspun, there have been vehicles, there are about 22 trucks which are deployed there, which carry Welspun material to the port and from port back to Welspun. That is one big number that I am talking about. There have been other single digit truck deployment which has happened at Vizag Port, and I think even in Chennai Port as well. There are two, three others which we are talking about in terms of the port. One big deal, which you would have picked up from the news as well, which is for the Wonder Cement. There we are touching two ports, Tuna Port and Dahej as well. Those are the other ones which are touching the ports and bringing in coal from those particular port.

Harshvardhan Kothari
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay. One more last question. We had previously indicated that we will be introducing L3 autos in the market. Any update on that?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

We have done that. It is a partial kind of a seeding and testing. We have introduced L3 products in quarter one, but in the select markets of UP and Bihar. We are testing those particular vehicles in these market, and based on the feedback that we get from these markets, we will take a call forward on L3 as a product.

Harshvardhan Kothari
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay. How is the NCR commercial vehicle modernization drive gaining traction, sir?

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

So, by law, you mean to say with respect to the EV policy, which NCR has declared?

Harshvardhan Kothari
Shareholder, Private Investor

Yes.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Yes. We are increasingly seeing more and more traction gaining into, when it comes to NCR market, not only for us, for the entire industry of EV. In, let us say, a couple of months from now, once this becomes mandatory, we will see huge traction gaining into NCR. And we are also ramping up our ability in NCR to service the demand, be it in terms of dealer appointment or their secondary footprints across the NCR.

Harshvardhan Kothari
Shareholder, Private Investor

Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you so much.

Jalaj Gupta
Managing Director, TI Clean Mobility

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you so much. Since there are no more questions in the queue, we will take that as a last question. On behalf of IIFL Capital Services Limited, that concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining us, and you may now click on the leave icon to exit the meeting. Thank you all for your participation.