Bergen Carbon Solutions AS (OSL:BCS)
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Earnings Call: Q2 2023

Aug 30, 2023

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

Good morning, and very welcome to Bergen Carbon Solutions Q2 presentation and company update in this second last day of August. I'm Odd Strømsnes, and I'm the CEO of the company. The agenda is a pretty straightforward financial and operational business update, with a deeper dive into the importance of product quality, especially in terms of meeting client specifications relevant to the battery market. Even though nanocarbon and graphite do have different functions within the battery, it's all about enhancing the battery's functional quality. Q2 has definitely taken us in the right direction, as we are continuously pushing towards improving our process, making quality products, and reduce costs, and these are the highlights. As I said, nanocarbon, as well as graphite, do have different applications and functions within the battery, which I will come back to in greater details, as it's all about enhancing the battery's functional quality.

Make the battery charge faster, replace scarce material, make it cheaper, and extend the duration and the overall battery lifetime. In order to do all that, the carbon particles we are producing need to have a certain size and a certain physical form, called morphology, and a certain purity. The fact that we made a strategic change last year, focusing primarily towards the battery market, made this technical qualification process so important. As such, I'm very pleased to report that we have made a huge leap forward in this respect. We have been producing large amounts of mostly nanocarbon, more or less continuously, from two of the reactors throughout the summer, and we are now delivering product very much in line with the required specifications, and we are soon to start producing from the third reactor.

As a consequence of our production, we are delivering produced samples now to several potential clients in China, South Korea, Japan, and Norway for them to test, confirm, and verify in their different battery chemistry applications. Huchems, the South Korean chemistry company, which we announced an intentional agreement with earlier this year, is one of these companies, and as such, we expect, expect the contractual and the commercial discussions around the Huchems cooperation to proceed. Our implementation of the electrolyte recycling and filtering project is completed and is now installed. This will significantly bring down our cost base. A new small laboratory test reactor is now up and running, which will reduce the production and the characterization turnaround time of small-scale test samples and verification.

We have been strengthening our team with battery expertise, as well as general electrochemical process competence, all secured with a PhD and master's background. Finally, with the financial burn rate also on budget, we have all in all delivered a very productive and a very promising quarter. Our financial numbers confirms that we have the finances to execute on our strategic plan. We have a solid cash balance with a steady cash burn rate of up to NOK 70 million per quarter, accumulating to close to NOK 33 million in the last six months. This is a NOK 10 million increase from last year, which is expected. A solid cash position of NOK 260 million .

With the current burn rate, which is expected to grow slightly, we have the robustness to successfully conclude on our strategy I have described until being ready for a subsequent scale-up. Still zero debts and an equity position of more than 90%. So Bergen Carbon Solutions in brief. I believe the EU in the bigger CCSU picture, carbon capture, storage, and utilization, will play an increasingly important role going forward. Bergen Carbon Solutions, as a high-end technology material company, is one of the very few Norwegian-based pure-play CCU developers. We are something rare as a Norwegian technology company, creating industry independently from local natural resources. We need only smart brains and lots of CO2 to consume. And the concept of producing an advanced carbon product, which the world's electrical transformation is solely dependent on, from the greenhouse gas itself, that is a second-to-none equity story.

This is why 2023, as previously announced, for us, is a year for consolidation, a year for product quality improvement, spend time on process optimization, cost reduction, and organizational development. We are, after all, building a company for the future.... One of the lesser communicated messages being addressed in Norway is the nation's total dependency of imported high-end technical competence from all over the world, as competence is indeed a scarce commodity. The Norwegian oil and gas companies, and in particular the service companies, have benefited from this for decades, and I would say it's a prerequisite for the nation's success story we all love to tell, and I believe also that this is an under-communicated narrative. It will be the same for the energy transition companies, and we in BCS have been so fortunate to attract very skilled personnel from many different nations.

We are now around 30 employees, with more than 75% of our workforce with a bachelor's, master, or PhD background. Importantly, we are still recruiting. For an export company like BCS, which will have a broad international client base, I would argue this is of strategic importance. Now over to technology and business development. We all know that a picture explains more than 1,000 words, and this picture illustrates overall in the full carbon-based value chain, where BCS can indeed play a critical role, both upstream, in terms of carbon capture, close to a CO₂ point emitter, and downstream, in terms of carbon utilization, close to a carbon end user, like a battery factory. Today, many of the planned battery factory startups are being based upon imported anode graphite from Asia, produced from petroleum or coal or mining.

When we know that 1/3 of a battery's CO₂ emission comes from the anode material itself, it should be paramount to seek local solutions in order to drive also the battery component emissions down. I also believe this challenge has not gained enough focus, and again, this has obviously huge geopolitical implications. Many companies are interested to talk to us merely as a capture company, as they have a lot of CO₂ to get rid of. So it's important to emphasize that our business case is absolutely dependent of the utilization element, by the fact that we need a commercial, viable agreement of our product take off. We are independent of geographic location, as long as we have CO₂ and electricity, and based on clean hydropower, the production is a true net CO₂-consuming exercise.

As many of you know, we documented this by a successful proof of concept with BIR here in the area last year. We need to ensure that we are delivering on cost, always, and that we can compete on the cost basis towards the traditional fossil-based carbon producers with the large CO₂ emissions into the existing market. With the right cost basis established, further carbon taxation increase will, for us, come as a pure upside. We announced a pretty aggressive cost reduction program in March, and I would say now that we are delivering on it. Our new separation and filtration methodology is now commissioned and in operation. It's also based on CO₂, and will be the basis for our in-house process going forward. It's a low energy-consuming process, enabling more than 90% electrolyte recycling, which, today, is our major part of the cost basis.

Another important message worth repeating is the fact that we do make a tailor-made product, skreddersøm, not bulk material, which fits all. Each customer has its own recipe for their confidential battery chemistry. This has indeed a strong bearing towards the specification of our deliveries, as the characteristics of both nanocarbon and graphite plays a key role for the battery performance. Now, clean carbon. Carbon is obviously the basis for our business. It's strong, it's light, it's durable, and it's conductive. And more importantly, it reduces the volumes needed of other scarce material. The product application range is somewhat limitless, but from last year, we have decided to focus primarily on the battery market. CO₂, as the major greenhouse gas, contains 27% pure carbon, so we can theoretically make a kilo of carbon from 3.7 kg of CO₂.

In a massively growing carbon supply market, totally dominated by China today, based on a non-sustainable CO₂ footprint, we do see ourselves playing a role in the increasingly demanding geopolitical landscape, bringing local control to a sustainable industry, critical to the world's electrification needs. Here is what we make. I have shown this slide before. Multi-Walled Carbon Nanotubes , called nanocarbon, and graphite and hard carbon called macro carbon. All product groups have different functions toward the improved battery performance. Electrolyte carries positively charged lithium ions from anode to cathode, and vice versa. Anodes are typically graphite, used as an active host material, has an optimal structure to receive and store lithium ions. The more lithium ions, the longer the battery cycle time. The cathode contain lithium and battery metals like nickel, cobalt, manganese. This is called the NMC chemistry.

Our Multi-Walled Carbon Nanotubes acts as a conductive agent as it adds conductivity, charging speed, and strength to the battery. For both these electrodes, certain characteristics are important, such as surface area, level of graphitization, and level of metal impurities. As such, different structured carbons hugely affect the end result, making early characterization and initial material testing so important. For instance, you can see that the optimal surface area for a graphite particle to store lithium ions is one square meter per gram. While our Multi-Walled Carbon Nanotubes particle, they shall produce as much surface as possible in order to be as conductive as possible, in an ideal surface area of more than 200 square meter per gram. Think about that, 200 square meter per gram. So we can see we are adapting to very different technical requirements, pending the final carbon applications.

Since carbon conductive properties are dependent on the specific surface and area, smaller tubes will automatically be preferred over bigger, as long as you are able to use them. Nanocarbons will therefore often have a specific surface area that is larger than 200 m²/g, where graphite typically is around 1 m²/g. Diameter shall be around 5-30 nm. And more than 60% of all the batteries in the already growing battery market are expected to contain nanocarbon conductive agent, and this is up from 27% just from two years ago. So it's a substantial market increase. BCS have dramatically improved the key specification criteria to meet these industrial-grade nanocarbon. This we have achieved, first of all, by establishing a systematic qualification program.

This work has taken all the focus during the last period, and I would say all for the whole company. Remember that the established specification level is defined from fossil-based CVD methodology, the existing methodology of producing nanocarbons, and that we are now homing in on the specification based on a completely different process. The situation is pretty much the same for macro carbons. Also here, we have taken huge qualification steps in the right direction, homing in on meeting a full industrial grade spec. Even though this is more of a commodity material applied in more than 95% of all batteries, certain specifications also need to be met here. So all in all, these two product groups are used to achieve totally different effects in the battery. The graphite is used as an anode host material to store lithium ions.

Multi-Walled Carbon Nanotubes are typically used to increase the conductivity of the electrodes. As we have said, different structure carbons, thus therefore hugely affect the end results, and that's why characterization and initial material testing is the most important thing to do first. We are still concentrating on quality and not volume. We said that last time, and we will probably say it also next time, as the volume will come when we are ready for industrial scale up. We believe we are close in meeting all the specifications based on the process consuming CO2 instead of a process of releasing CO2. Currently, we have talks with more than 10 different potential customers all over the world, confirming the specification levels. The entry barrier in this market is high, but so is the reward for improved battery functionality for the end user. It means a lot for them.

That's why we see a market with high willingness to pay for the right product quality and long-term offtake contracts for higher volumes. Then we're going over to the summary and the outlook. So we are fully funded to deliver on the following key principles: Cost reduction initiatives, they are significant and paramount for our success. Systematized process optimization and continuous improvement, meeting the technical specifications. Growing market with European focus in a market with total Chinese dominance today. Secure and develop contracts and partnerships. Ref, the announced market strategy recently confirmed with Huchems and others. That could be based on a pilot factory where we are producing and supplying our own material. It could be based on being a technology provider, licensing out our technology, or creating joint venture with existing industrial players.

And finally, we have the capital discipline to support all these ongoing activities until we are ready to scale up. And like you said, I can say this in a more direct way, six good reasons to invest in Bergen Carbon Solutions: strong market demand for carbon products and emissions solutions; unique, robust technology roadmap; bringing carbon production home; competitive cost advantage with roadmap for cost reductions; multi-phase go-to-market strategy; and a solid financial runway towards scale-up. So to conclude, we are delivering on cost reduction initiatives and promising technical qualification progress, customer and partner interactions. We have a full burn rate under control and a very clear strategic strategy going forward. That concludes my presentation, and that brings us into a Q&A session.

Speaker 2

Okay, first question: How far from commercial specs are you, and when do you anticipate being ready to deliver on specs?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

We are building a new industry based on the new technology, so it's always difficult to give exact estimates of time. But we have seen great progress the last period, and I would say much faster than anticipated. Have delivered results much faster than I had thought, and we will continue in that route. And I will... I'm confident that we'll, we get there, so I will be surprised if we are not there within half a year.

Speaker 2

Thank you. A new question: It seems like the main focus these days are carbon nanotubes. Why are you not focusing more on graphite? Isn't that a much bigger market?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

I mean, we have a clear and very good dialogue with the South Korean Huchems company. We have very concrete specification, and it was pretty natural to start working on that client demand. The graphite market has a lower technical barrier. It's a more of a commodity market, even though you can say it's bigger, and we believe it's easier there to catch up. Having said that, we will start a more intensified graphite production this fall.

Speaker 2

Okay. And then it's a question about TKG Huchems. When do you expect the MoU to be updated, and how can we expect the business setup to look like?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

I mean, we have presented a three-legged go-to-market strategy, where we can produce and deliver the product, we can license it out, the technology, and we can create joint ventures. And I would say that the dialogue with TKG Huchems will be based on one of, one of the three. But I think what is important, though, is that we are doing the material testing, we are gaining their confidence, we are meeting their specifications, and then the commercial discussions will be initiated.

Speaker 2

Right. Okay, next question. Why are you mainly focusing on batteries?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

I mean, the battery market is a massively grown big market with a huge growth. It's a high willingness to pay. And what I tried to say in the presentation here is that as Bergen Carbon Solutions is a pure play CCU company, we think that we have a lot to add in the green transition of the battery production itself. I mean, we are talking a lot about battery fabrication as part of the electrical solution, going forward, but what we don't talk about is what these batteries contains of, and the fact that we need to have much bigger focus on that they have a good CO2 footprint, and there we can play a big difference.

Speaker 2

Okay. Yeah, and in March, you talked about multiple cost reduction initiatives. When will the rest of them be addressed?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

Yeah. We mentioned four concrete cost reductions in March. Two of them is what I have mentioned, and which will contribute to a, you know, substantial part of the total reduction. The two remaining ones is really linked to upscaling and get the economy of scale benefits.

Speaker 3

Yeah, so, one question, and from Norne Securities . With the electrolyte recirculating-

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

Uh.

Speaker 3

You said that, that you save 90%.

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

Uh.

Speaker 3

Does that sort of equate to the electricity bill? Would you save up to 90% of your power usage, or is that a

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

That's a different,

Speaker 3

Is it?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

This, it-

Speaker 3

It will affect the power.

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

It will bring down the power consumption. The power consumption or process is not a material part of the total cost picture, but the electrolyte part is very much so. And today, I mean, we are producing a certain number of times, and then we need to clean the electrolyte with acid, et cetera. Now we are able to reuse the electrolyte, almost all of it, continuously, and that, you know, that will bring the cost down. We said totally 90% last time, and the electrolyte part is close to 70% of that.

Speaker 3

Okay. Is it right to assume then that you would expect the Høyanger plant to be the place where you will start your operation?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

I mean, if we are, if we are kicking off a pilot factory, and if we are doing it in Norway, it's very likely that we do it in Høyanger.

Speaker 3

The Mosjøen area is perhaps less relevant?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

That's something we don't discuss for the time being.

Speaker 3

Okay.

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

Mm.

Speaker 3

Yeah. So, can you again just take us through the CO2 emission savings on Multi-Walled Carbon Nanotubes and on the graphite? Because it can be quite substantial on the Multi-Walled Carbon Nanotubes .

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

I mean-

Speaker 3

Am I right?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

Yeah, I mean, we, what we are, I mean, theoretically, we are consuming something between 2 and 3 kg of CO2 for producing 1 kg of carbon nanotubes, consuming the CO2. While the competition, I mean, the world is producing lots and lots of carbon as we speak, and it's all very fossil-based, and it's emitting large amount of CO2. And typically, what we are competing against, they are emitting 5 kg of CO2 per kilo of carbon. So that's a delta of 7 kg of CO2 for each produced kilo of carbon. And if you multiply that with the number of batteries in the world, that's a huge saving.

Of course, it's a theoretical exercise, but I think last time we showed the presentation where if you're using our methodology of replacing the anode graphite to all the world's battery until 2025, it will save 20 million tons of CO2. And we compare that to Longship, which are saving, pumping down 1.5 million tons of CO2 per year. It's a pretty cool comparison, actually.

Speaker 3

Absolutely. So back to the recycling process. Have you patented any step in the process?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

I mean, we are in the process of patenting some of these steps, but what we have explained previously, that we have embarked on the route for secrecy versus going in the patent mode because we believe we are a step ahead of many competitors. And we are afraid of sharing too much of that while initiating these patent processes, and that has been the strategy so far, and we still believe that is right. But I think there are steps we're taking now, which is probably something we will explore more in the IP context to do some patenting.

Speaker 3

Well, the-

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

We are working on that.

Speaker 3

Yeah. One thing about the cost savings, obviously, but could you say something about the process targeting at reducing the variability in the different co-compounds and making, enabling you to sort of making tailor-made products for different customers and your the process here?

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

I mean, of course, there will always be a huge element of economy of scale here. The more we produce, the cheaper unit cost it will be, and that is something we have the internal figures on, and we have a view on that. We believe we are closing very much down now to a unit cost comparison with our fossil-based competition, as I said. We also know that, customers have different specifications and requirements, even though ballpark they're pretty much the same. And we believe that if we are meeting these specifications based upon our method, the willingness to pay is something which can be quite attractive. And we believe also that we will not have a lot of clients. We think that we will have a few clients with big volumes.

Speaker 3

I think that's, yeah, the Q&A is concluded. Thank you, Odd.

Odd Strømsnes
CEO, Bergen Carbon Solutions

Thank you.

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