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Earnings Call: Q4 2019

Jan 30, 2020

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

I think we're going to start. The talk at the back is wrong. Of course, we'll start with a show today, too. As you all know, we have a kitchen effort going on now. We are actually remodeling our kitchen section of the stores in February. Obviously, we thought that you guys also need to see a little bit of it.

We bought some goodie bags for you to bring. Unfortunately, it's not enough for everybody, so after the show, you have to run up here. The first 15 will get something, and the rest, unfortunately, can't.

We have an onion cutter, new in the assortment. One of my favorite, this is a top model in the new section. It's a frying pan. It's a 10-year guarantee, not the usual five years. It's at the bargain price, of course.

Trine is, I don't know if she tries to be nice to me, but she asked me to demonstrate the cutter here. It is razor sharp, very high-quality cutter that you can use at your home, also in a new section. If you use it, don't cut your fingers. We have enough of products up here so you can try afterwards.

We also have a plate, which is 98%, Trine said, of biodegradable material. It's sort of sustainable products. Everything in the assortment, it will be in the next few weeks in the stores, so it will be in the new kitchen section. We also have some sweets for you, the Madonna biscuit at NOK 10. It's a bargain. This one is NOK 26, but at an special offer price of NOK 20.

Everything in the goodie bag, so please bring along afterwards when we're finished. Okay. We also have, of course, all the things you need for the kitchen, but I'm not going to wear this today. To get to the presentation, I think for the quarter four result, this is the Champions League final of retail, and obviously we are very, very pleased that also in 2019, we won what we call the Champions League final of the year for the sixth time in a row.

We beat the market. I'm particularly pleased with the growth in gross margin because it demonstrate a kind of discipline in the team, managing the campaigns and managing the sell-outs. That was very, very good. We also had an 8.6% increase in operating results, which is very, very good, obviously in a very, very tough market.

Very, very happy with the team and the efforts and the Christmas season. You've seen this before. This is now year number 27 of consecutive year of growth in Europris. It's something we're very proud of. The highlights, 3.3% growth in total revenue, 1.1% like-for-like. Obviously, slightly below the last year, which was 7.0%, above the market.

As I said, gross profit increased by 7.4%. This is always a balancing act between sales growth and gross margin growth. In this quarter, we prioritized definitely the gross margin, and it increased by 7.4%. 8.6% increase in operating results. Net profit was slightly lower, but this is mainly due to unrealized hedging losses. This is because the kroner actually unexpectedly increased in value towards the end of the year, which today is back again to the normal weak level.

If I close the books today, it will have been a different picture, but at the end of the year, that was the situation. We also refinanced our term loan in December, so that's sort of completed now. We also completed in the Q4, the transaction for the first 20% of the Runsvengruppen. If you look at the full year, 7.2% growth in revenues, 4.4% like-for-like. Again, very, very proud of it.

I mean, we are doing well, but also the market is not doing so well. In a very, very tough market with a lot of headwind, we are doing well. I think that in uncertain times, people flock to discount variety retail, which gives you value for money. We see that not just for us, but also for the entire sector. Gross margin was slightly up for the full year.

Of course, the results for the full year was influenced by the situation in the first half of the year, where we had extra cost of NOK 51 million, most of it in the first half of the year. We rebounded in the second half and did well. Yeah. The board has proposed a dividend of NOK 1.95, which is up from NOK 1.85 the year before.

As we had said before, the most important is to try and have a steady sort of increase in dividend per share. Yeah. The retail market you all read about, we got the SSB figures this morning. There was a poor December and the market was poor. We still beat the market on top of very, very tough comparables last year. Very good category work. The big categories did very well.

Some of the grocery categories also did very well in the fourth quarter, but also the key seasonal categories did very well. That's the main reason for the good growth. Very solid execution of campaigns, and as I said, this disciplined sell-down, so we didn't rebate too hard even though the market was very tough towards the end of the quarter.

That resulted in a very good improvement in gross margin. We should always beat the market. This is our long-term target. Market might go up and down. We should always beat the market. You see it more easily here over several years. It is going to go up and down, but we should always beat the market.

That is the main target of Europris. If you look at our strategy that we presented at the Capital Markets Day a little bit more than a year ago, there's three main elements that we were focusing on. The first is to strengthen the price and the cost position. We are a discount retailer, so you need to have costs down so you can actually sell at a low price with a good margin.

We want to improve the customer experience, and then we want to drive customer traffic, not just in the physical world, but also in the digital world. On the price and cost position, we talked a lot about the partnership with Tokmanni and with ÖoB. Together, we represent close to NOK 18 billion in sales. We are by far the biggest discount variety retailer in the Nordics, obviously.

That gives us a power to get the best possible prices. We are working a lot on achieving those synergies. They are backlogged because it takes a full year to get Christmas is only once a year, so you need a couple of seasons before you get all the Christmas products. We have defined into three different approaches.

One is where we called it gold, where we actually have the same factory, the same product, and exactly the same brand and packaging. This is obviously the best because then we get the optimal price.

We have silver, where we have the same factory and the same product, but not the same brand or packaging. It might be different packaging for different markets. We also have the bronze, where it's just the same sort of supplier.

In many categories, even bronze is actually significant savings because the factories are used to producing for different type of suppliers and don't have a big cost in changing production lines. All these elements, we are working on it, and of course, it takes time. As we have provided in the package, a little bit more information about the savings.

We are still confident on the total savings, but we have only seen a few of them so far. We have said that total, by 2022, we should have NOK 80 million in savings distributed evenly between the two companies. That's the full effect in 2022. So far, we have realized savings of NOK 16 million, and approximately one third of it is accrued to Europris.

It's still early days, but of course, we see the pipeline and we already negotiated the prices for the Christmas products for 2020. We feel very confident about this. On the new warehouse, someone asked me about that.

We had a board meeting yesterday, of course, at the new central warehouse, and I could actually see the test pallets coming out of the big, fully automatic warehouse. We're now in the final testing phase of that, and on the mid-February, it's going to go live, and then we're going to ramp it up step by step until June. At least from my perspective, the pallets were coming in and out, and the testing is going okay, so there's only green flags so far.

In the second half of 2020, we will start testing and fine-tuning the shuttle system, which is a semi-automatic picking, where the products comes to the packer and not the packer goes with a truck to the products. That will be fully operational from the first half of 2021. Exciting times. Look at the customer experience.

As I said, we won best in test of this one of our Christmas lighting range. That was won on two days before Black Friday, it was good timing. Two days afterwards, it was sold out in all stores, of course, because we hadn't expected it to win the test.

I think it just demonstrate the quality of the category work in some of our key Christmas categories. The guy who's buying Christmas lightning is a Christmas lightning nerd. He knows everything about Christmas lightning.

You have to do that in order to get the best prices and the best assortment. This is also something we are sourcing now more and more. Next year, we will also be doing all of the sourcing together with Tokmanni and ÖoB. That will provide further savings. On the customer growth, obviously, that our e-commerce revenues are small at the moment, not just for us, but the entire discount variety retail sector is roughly 0.6% of sales, so it's not a lot.

Keep in mind that the online offering we have today is a very, very rough and rude, kind of crude page and service, and we are launching a remodeled version in a few weeks, where we also would move the operations of the e-commerce to the central warehouse, Mesterlinjen.

We will have a much larger selection, and the service level will be much higher because the entire assortment at the central warehouse will be available for online sales. We expect at least the offering to the customers to improve dramatically this year. More important than e-commerce is actually this digital traffic and digital marketing and communication.

What we are seeing is even though our customers predominantly buy offline, they actually get their information online. We see the traffic to our web page and our MER customer club membership is increasing.

People are getting their information online, and then they're coming to the store. We do a lot of work on search word optimization, on improving our web page, and improving our customer club. This is really, really important for us. The customers eventually mainly come to the store.

We also open new stores. In this quarter, we had two relocations and three store expansions with very good results. This is a picture from Nordfjordeid, which relocated and had more than 20% growth afterwards. Obviously, in the retail market we are now, when we get the opportunity to relocate, we always relocate to a better location and don't necessarily pay more.

That's very, very attractive for us, and it's a value driver. We have five stores in the pipeline, but this is still early days, so this might change. Yes. Status on ÖoB. Espen, I think you're going to take us through a little bit more details. This is the deep dive and the Christmas gift for the analysts this year.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

Yes. Thank you. Today we will give some more details on the partnership with ÖoB. Pål talked about the sourcing partnership. I will give some more details on the equity transaction and also on the operational and financial performance of ÖoB in 2019. First, I'll start with a recap of what we announced back in June 2018.

It's a low-risk partnership, but with a potential for a true European scale on time. The joint sourcing is the very backbone of the collaboration, and, as Pål explained earlier, we are starting to see the savings coming through and the initial savings potential has been confirmed.

The structure of the transaction allows both companies to focus on their own strategy and also work on the strategic initiatives to improve their own operations before Europris, sometime during late 2020, needs to make a decision on whether or not to exercise the option to make a full acquisition of ÖoB.

The transaction of the first 20% stake in ÖoB was completed in December last year. It's a share-for-share transactions and the sellers of ÖoB got an ownership stake of 2.6% in Europris.

The purchase price was settled at NOK 115 million and Europris settled the transaction with treasury shares that was acquired in the market at NOK 98 million. The option we have to acquire the remaining 80% of the shares in ÖoB may be exercised within six months after agreement on the 2019 EBITDA for ÖoB.

The pricing model is the same as for the first 20%. This time the multiple is based on the average EBITDA of 2019 and 2020. ÖoB started a strategic turnaround back in 2017 with a clear strategy of modernizing the store base and rebalancing the product assortment with aim to get the more sales of non-food products and get a clear seasonal profile to drive operating margins.

This turnaround has taken longer than expected. Results are so far not meeting expectations. During 2019, there has been a change in the management of ÖoB. A new CEO has been recruited. Magnus Carlén will join the company on 1st of March this year. Magnus is a very experienced retailer. He comes now from the position as CEO for Reitan Convenience in Sweden.

In 2019, the focus in ÖoB has been to strengthen the company's seasonal profile and also to change the product mix towards higher margin categories within non-food. While the results from these initiatives actually have been quite positive, the EBITDA has remained below expectations and also last year.

Over the past few years, ÖoB has refurbished eight stores into a new concept, more in line with the strategic direction of getting more non-food sales and also a clear seasonal profile. These stores have, in 2019, delivered above average growth, and in late 2019, ÖoB opened a new concept store outside Stockholm.

This store has a much more clearer shop-in-shop layout and is more comparable with the latest Europris concepts. It's still very early days, but this store has delivered a favorable sales mix and both gross margin and basket value well above the rest of the chain.

It's promising results, but it's early days. The focus for ÖoB going forward will be to update the strategic plan and to create a new master layout for the stores based on the experiences from the refurbished stores and from the new concept store. This will be rolled out to several stores during 2020.

In addition, we will also continue to develop the seasonal concept by sharing best practice between Europris and ÖoB. If we return to Europris and have a look at the financial review, and as Pål mentioned at least a couple of times, he's very satisfied with the financial results in 2019 and especially the fourth quarter with the gross margin. Looking at the gross margin, that came in at 45.1% in the fourth quarter, up from 43.1% last year, representing an increase in gross profit of 7.4%.

We have talked a lot about the campaign execution over the last couple of quarters, and we have continued to improve that during the fourth quarter, and we have also deliberately adjusted the campaign pressure in order to drive the gross margin. Towards the end of the Christmas season, we had the more controlled realization of seasonal goods.

That had a somewhat negative effect on sales, but contributed overall to the increase in gross profits. As Pål mentioned earlier, we're starting to see the positive contribution from the sourcing partnership with Tokmanni and ÖoB coming through.

Still, it's a small amount, but it's good that we see that the long-term savings are confirmed. Operating expenses in % of sales was 21.4% in the quarter compared to 26.9% last year. When we adjust for the IFRS 16 effects, the OpEx ratio was 27.8%.

A number of directly operated stores, which is the key cost driver, increased by 4.5% in the quarter compared to last year. In the quarter, we have some extra costs associated with operating both the old and the new central warehouse, and we will continue to have some costs throughout the transition period due to operating out of several warehouses. When we look at Adjusted EBITDA, that was NOK 450 million, a significant increase from last year.

Even when you adjust for the IFRS 16 effects, EBITDA was NOK 330 million, an increase of 8.6% from last year. The high increase in EBITDA is caused by the sales growth and the improvement in gross margin. For the cash flow, I'll comment on the full-year figures. We see a very positive development in working capital, as last year, that's 2018, was affected by an increase in inventories.

We see lower inventories at year-end 2019, but the inventory level will remain on a relatively high level until the end of summer season 2020, as we have communicated earlier. Investments are increasing as we're making progress on the new central warehouse and getting closer to the start-up of the automated solutions.

By year-end, we had cash and liquidity reserves of NOK 1 billion, which was a significant increase from the year before. As Pål said, we have refinanced the group. The agreements were signed by year-end, and the transaction was completed this week. Pål, as normal, I leave it to you to summarize.

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

Yes. The outlook, we still think that we are positioned, obviously, as the leading player in our sector and in a sector that is doing well in a market that on a European scale is doing well. It's exciting times. We are realizing the synergies in the sourcing relationship with ÖoB and Tokmanni.

We're also in the middle of implementing the new central warehouse and all the improvements there. As I said earlier, everything is so far on time and cost. We have a healthy pipeline of new stores.

We will only open new stores if they are profitable and if the annual audits show that they keep on surpassing our expectations. There's no specific target to open new stores just to do it. We do it because it's profitable for us, and we are not alone in our sector to do it.

We have completed a couple of franchise takeovers at the year-end, and we expect a few more to come in the natural course of the business. With that, I think we are on the quest to be the best in Europe in our industry. We are getting closer now to being the best in terms of warehouse operations, but we still have some room to go in many of the other aspects. With that, I think we will open up for questions.

Speaker 6

Good morning. I have a question about the City stores.

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

Yeah.

Speaker 6

As this is the first Q4 with the city store in operation, have you made any experiences from this going forward?

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

I think the experience from there's only one city store, which is Gunerius, which is at least the purest city store, and that is doing very well. It's still doing very well. We are looking to open more city stores. If you have a landlord that can give us something at a bargain price, we will close the deal any moment.

Speaker 6

One more question. I saw you have a pipeline of five expected store openings in 2020.

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

Yeah.

Speaker 6

Previously, you have spoken about at least Grini in risk of being shut down.

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

Yeah.

Speaker 6

Are there any other stores which may be shut down against your store strategy?

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

I think Grini is, as you said, that it will be decided later this year. We also have a store in Kongsberg, where actually we will open a store in the center of Kongsberg, and we have a store outside Kongsberg that is in an area that is on a, what do you call it, exception from the municipality regulations. We might actually just change that this year.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

Pål?

Oliver Pisani
Analyst, Nordea

Thanks. Oliver Pisani, Nordea. Does this work? Regarding these temporary costs of operating the new and the old warehouse, you don't say anything about the size of those. What were they in this quarter, and what do you expect for those going forward?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

We have not set a fixed amount on that. There are some costs in the quarter. It's something that we will look into if we can give an exact figure. Just operating two large warehouses, more than 30,000 sq m with electricity, cleaning, and operation, that drives some costs. There will be some costs over the next transition period. Until 2021, we will have some costs related to this.

Oliver Pisani
Analyst, Nordea

All right. Could you remind me, I just saw the distribution of these savings that you realized with the ÖoB agreement. I think you harvested one-third of that. Was that according to expectations, the expectations you set out?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

What we communicated was that we should have the savings in the range NOK 60 million-NOK 80 million, evenly distributed between the two companies.

Oliver Pisani
Analyst, Nordea

Right.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

The initial savings are based mainly on Nordic sourcing agreements. On those agreements, we see a larger share of savings going to ÖoB, one-third accrued to Europris. As Pål said, on the long term, the total potential we have identified is NOK 80 million, and that is evenly distributed. I think it's absolutely fully in line with the expectations we have.

Oliver Pisani
Analyst, Nordea

Yeah. Fair enough. Thanks.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

I think the microphone is coming.

Speaker 7

Okay, good morning.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

Good morning.

Speaker 7

First, I would like to touch upon your option to exercise the 80% in ÖoB. Obviously, the turnaround process has been slow, or to some extent, not successful over the past 18 months. Basically, you're seeing the EBITDA in ÖoB actually going down. My question is really, what makes you confident that it will be a good idea to exercise the 80%?

The second part relating to ÖoB, this concept too, with the store in ÖoB that might seem to be interesting. What is the CapEx of actually lifting an ÖoB store from, let's say, version 1 to version 2? Is that actually an idea that you're pursuing if you were to exercise the remaining 80%?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

That was a very long question, Martin. To start off with your first question, the decision on exercising the option has not been taken. That will be taken by the board of directors later this year. We will not comment on that specifically. Of course, if they decide to exercise the option, that is based on the potential and not the historic performance.

Looking at the rollout of a new master layout, I do not have the figures exactly for what that will cost, but I would assume it's less than half a million per store, based on the preliminary figures we have heard. Those are not fully confirmed. As you remember, going back to 2014, 2015, Europris did their own upgrade of the store base. That was actually a little bit more expensive.

We did a larger modernization program than what is needed for ÖoB to come to the new master layout. That has proved to be very successful and also helped to lift the image of the company and to add more value to the customer. Definitely, we believe it's the correct thing to improve the shopping environment.

Speaker 7

Regarding sourcing. What are your considerations about the coronavirus? Have you seen any indications that that affects sourcing from Asia right now? What do you believe if it continues, would you have problems actually sourcing the goods that you need?

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

I don't think we had the SARS epidemic a few years back. Of course, this is evolving in time, but it might influence the travel to and from China. Obviously, we have people in China, our own staff there. We are, of course, concerned that they are in good health and everything is good with them.

Last time, from a product perspective, the product flow was normal. It was just the movement of people that was sort of restricted in a period. You could argue that a player like us who has people on the ground there is more sort of resistant.

Speaker 7

Okay. January, would you be able to give any trading comment for January so far? We have seen a very mild start of January.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

Yeah, of course, the weather outside is not favorable for sales of seasonal products, so you sell less of those. That's for sure. As a seasonal concept, that takes away one of the reasons that you go to store at the moment. Obviously, the weather has a negative impact on sales. It's one month in, still two to go in the quarter. Q1 is the smallest quarter for Europris. Of course, this has a negative impact on sales.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Petter Nystrøm
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Yeah. Petter from ABG. Just a follow-up on the gross margin there. You are estimating gross margin savings of roughly NOK 40 million in 2020. I assume you then will get-

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

By 2022.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

It's NOK 40 million in 2020.

Petter Nystrøm
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Yes.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

That is shared between the two companies.

Petter Nystrøm
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Exactly.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

I've not given the split between the companies.

Petter Nystrøm
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

No, should we expect those savings to be back-end loaded on the gross margin?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

It will be back loaded because it says in the presentation that it's on the Christmas goods. It will be back loaded.

Petter Nystrøm
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

You mentioned five new stores in the pipeline. Are you able to comment on where those stores might come? Are there any city stores included in those five?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

There are no city stores in those five, and we will announce the locations later.

Petter Nystrøm
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Years back, we got an overview of the performance per vintage. Are you planning to provide some update on that vintage performance?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

No, actually not, because what we said before is that we will come with an update. We do this analysis every year. We have completed those for 2019, and we will make an update if we see a change in the pattern we've seen before. Basically, what we've seen on the 2019 analysis is that it confirms what we have told the market before.

Petter Nystrøm
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Thanks.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

Okay

Ole Morten Næss
Analyst, DNB Markets

Ole Morten Næss, DNB Markets. On your like-for-like growth for 2019 and for Q4, can you comment on what the mix was between price, volume, and traffic? Secondly, how was private label performing relative to the other categories, and what's the current private label share?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

Yeah.

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

You can take it.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

Yeah. On the sales side, for the total year of 2019, it's mainly driven by traffic, the growth we see in like-for-like. As we said in the report, the traffic is up. Basket value is also up, and the number of items per customer is increasing while the average price per item is slightly down.

That is also due to a mix change. We are very satisfied with the development. We don't give those comments to the quarter because that's a very short period, so you need to see that a little bit longer term.

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

On the private label, I think we have around 33% private label share, 32, 33. It's increasing a little bit more than the average. That's good development. Most of the seasonal assortment is private label, obviously. That's a good driver, and is expected to be slightly above the average.

Ole Morten Næss
Analyst, DNB Markets

On ÖoB. In 2018, there was a dispute about how to count the inventory, and now you present an EBITDA figure. Have you now agreed on common principles of how to count the inventory in that figure? Is that also something that will have to be discussed upon?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

We have never disagreed on the way they do the actual stock taking. We believe that they do the stock taking a very good way. It was more about how to allocate for the wastage in the stock that was not counted by year-end.

Ole Morten Næss
Analyst, DNB Markets

Yeah.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

We have agreed on principles on how to discuss that, and we will use those principles going forward when we go to EBITDA settlement for 2019 and 2020.

Ole Morten Næss
Analyst, DNB Markets

We should not expect any reservations to the 2019 figures as such?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

We said, it's preliminary and unaudited figures, so it's too early for me to say that those figures will not change. This is the best estimate that we have got from ÖoB at the moment.

Ole Morten Næss
Analyst, DNB Markets

Yeah. Based upon transaction in 2018, the net debt figure wasn't that significant in ÖoB. How has this developed in 2019, and also, if you can give the figure on how much net debt is if you include operational leases in ÖoB.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

I have not received the full accounts for 2019 for ÖoB. I do not have those figures. I'm sorry, I can't comment.

Ole Morten Næss
Analyst, DNB Markets

Okay. The NOK 75 million EBITDA last year, that's including or pre-IFRS?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

That is on comparable basis with previous years, so excluding IFRS 16.

Ole Morten Næss
Analyst, DNB Markets

Okay. You don't have gross margins or any opinion about what's working and what does not work?

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

The good thing is that they have sales growth, and we have an aggressive competitor that is opening more stores in Sweden. Having growth in that period is actually quite positive when you get a lot of new competitors around you. That's a positive sign that they are growing. It's the gross margin and has been difficult. The cost side is more under control. It's the gross margin that has been difficult.

Ole Morten Næss
Analyst, DNB Markets

Okay. Separately, you have previously shown contribution per store, where you have some top performers and a few, or quite a few.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

Not quite a few. A few.

Okay, now it's a few. If you just compare 2019 with 2018 or 2017, is the big contribution from the weaker ones doing better, or are the best ones excelling even further?

It's not the same ones that are the low performers this year as the last year. We see some high performers that always performed well and continue to deliver good results. In detail, we've worked a lot on those stores, and we see that it's a few of those that were red in 2018 that turn into the greens in 2019.

Most of the stores in detail actually improved from 2018- 2019. Whenever we have an issue with stores like that, it's mainly related to sales performance. A relocation is very often what solves the issue because the traffic pattern has changed, and the shopping pattern has changed. You need to be in the right location. Of course, you also sometimes have to work with management issues.

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

Keep in mind that I think it's like 6% or something, quite stable the number of stores that is in the red. Compared to other retailers, also in discount variety retail sector, actually, it is a very positive figure, actually. That's why.

Ole Morten Næss
Analyst, DNB Markets

Thank you.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

More questions?

Speaker 8

I think.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

From the web?

Speaker 8

I'll check.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

Okay.

Speaker 8

There is one question from the web from Tushar Jain. "Can you please provide more color on categories that performed well over Christmas and which were below expectations?

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

Yes, as I mentioned in the beginning, I think the grocery categories actually did quite well. Then, of course, some categories like clothing and shoes and the Pip-pip assortment, the wild bird assortment is not doing too well. Many we don't have snow, so that's not doing so well. The big grocery categories did very well.

Speaker 8

Current inventory level is still slightly high. Does it impact your ability to buy new products in 2020?

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

No.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

No, not at all. We have, of course, reduced the orders we have placed for some seasonal goods because we have some.

Speaker 8

No more questions.

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

There will be the Christmas to come next year, too.

Espen Eldal
CEO, Europris

Okay. That's it?

Pål Wibe
Director, Europris

Yes. Okay. Thank you for coming.