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Earnings Call: Q2 2025

Aug 21, 2025

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Good morning and welcome, everybody. Thank you for joining us. This is our second quarter, first half of the year trading and results update. We have this morning released a press release and an accompanying presentation, which we'll go through now, which shows the progress we've made during the course of the year. Joining me today on the call are our CFO, Qazi Qadeer, and our Head of Engineering, Kim Hansen. As a reminder, today's conference call contains certain statements. I just want to check if the presentation is live. I don't see it myself. There we go.

Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

Thank you. As a reminder, today's conference call contains certain statements that are and may be deemed to be forward-looking statements, which include all statements other than statements of historical fact. Forward-looking statements involve making certain assumptions based on the company's experience and perception of historical trends, current conditions, expected future developments, and other factors that we believe are appropriate under the circumstances. Although we believe the expectations reflected in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, actual events or results may differ materially from those projected or implied in such forward-looking statements due to known or unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors. For your reference, our press release is available on our website, www.panoroenergy.com.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Next slide, please.

Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

We will go through the slides, and afterwards, we can, as usual, answer some questions. You can either raise your hand and we will unmute you so you can ask a question live, or you can type a question in, and we'll endeavor to answer those questions to the extent that they have not already been answered or are indeed relevant for the larger audience today. Any questions that we don't get to, we will endeavor to get back to by e-mail in due course.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

The results highlights today. We're showing a first half of $86 million in reported revenue, EBITDA of just under $51 million, and CapEx of $26 million. A few comments around those numbers. Our lifting schedule is weighted towards the second half, so we will expect to see both on the revenue and EBITDA side a skewing towards the second half. Capital expenditure is the inverse.

Capital expenditure is heavier in the first half than it will be in the second half, so we expect that number to be within guidance as well. On the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with a half-year June 30th of $55 million of cash, $146 million of gross debt, and a net debt to trailing 12-month EBITDA of less than one time. A very, very strong and good balance sheet. On the right, today we've announced a cash distribution of NOK 80 million, which will be paid as a return of paid-in capital. There is a slight distinction between that and the dividends for those who follow these things. That would bring us then to NOK 580 million of cash distributions, and including the share buybacks at NOK 120 million.

That takes us to about $700 million of shareholder distributions and buybacks, approximately just under 30% of our market capitalization. I think we've shown a good, demonstrated a very good track record of returning cash to shareholders through this past couple of years.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

On the production side, we break it down by quarter so everybody can see what's going on. We've got the first half production of 11,500 bbl a day, around the guidance of 11,000- 12,000 bbl a day. Our OPEX per barrel, around $21 a barrel, as guided, and another $3 what we call normal occurring project costs. These are operating costs dealing with the long-term maintenance of facilities we have. Around $24 operating cost, and the CapEx still at $40 million, which is as previously guided. You can see that Dussafu has continued to be strong.

Tunisia in the orange has been quite steady, actually. The drop in production in the second quarter in Equatorial Guinea we touched on, but you can see that that is lower than it was in the first quarter or indeed in the fourth quarter of last year.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

Shareholder returns, these are in line with our 2025 policy. Today we declared another NOK 80 million. That brings NOK 240 million, including today's announcement. Year to date, we've also done $69 million of share buybacks through the 20th of August. Yesterday, we've been out of the market buying shares for the past couple of weeks because of the closed periods. If you look to the right, we have the limit of NOK 500 million approximately. It's $45 million. It's the key number. It's a dollar number, although we distribute in kroner.

If all things go to plan, we expect, of course, another $80 million share cash distribution in November, December when we come up with our third quarter results, leaving still some ample headroom there. We're well on track here as guided, and today's announcement hopefully underlines that commitment to shareholder distributions.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

Crude liftings, we just try and show what's happened last year and some of the seasonality of the crude liftings. We've lifted year to date 1.1 million, 1.2 million bbl with the weighting of sort of a one-to-two relationship between the first half and the second half. You will see additional liftings in the second half this year. We've already pre-announced a lifting in Equatorial Guinea in July, which achieved around $70 a barrel. Announced a lifting of 650,000 bbl. We announced that in the trading update recently.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

Here we have a lot of information. I won't go through it all because it's a useful slide for the records showing the first half cash flow reconciliation with our cash at the end of last year and the cash now. On the lower left, we show our senior secured bond amortization schedule. We have no repayments to make this year other than interest payments with the first amortization due in the end of 2026. On the right, our capital expenditure guidance. As everybody knows, we had a very, very heavy year last year. This year is more around $40 million.

We've spent $26 million to date, and that's principally been in and around the end of the Dussafu drilling program and Bourdon discovery itself has taken up about half of that CapEx, with the balance being in Equatorial Guinea, a little bit in Tunisia, and our exploration portfolio as well. We've had some activity with the award of the new license, EG-23, which I'll touch on. This is all going to plan.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

Dussafu, this is really our flagship asset. We've had really good, strong production. The reservoir performance has been excellent. We've had very, very good uptime on the FPSO. For those who follow it in detail, BW Energy took over the O&M contract on the FPSO. They took that over from BW Offshore, and they're doing a fantastic job, and that's really reflected in that uptime that we've had on that asset.

During the first half of the year as well, we made the Bourdon discovery, which initially looks like over 50 million in place and 25 million bbl recoverable. There are additional drilling targets that have been identified through the remapping of that drilling campaign, and there could be some further upside indeed in and around that Bourdon concept. The next big thing to happen at the Dussafu license is four new development wells in the Hibiscus and the Hibiscus South fields . These are two distinct fields, but we'll be approving together with partners a plan to drill four more development wells into this area. Again, the reservoir supports easily four more wells in this area, with the first oil targeted for the second half of next year. We just need to finalize the rig contract and figure out exactly when it's going to get there.

I think that that's going to be the next big activity on Dussafu, which will start next summer sometime. Again, first new oil target 2026. What that will do is that will bring the production back up around the FPSO capacity. We have four available slots on the MaBoMo platform, so everything's set up for that.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

We've talked about this before, but this is starting to get real and exciting. The award of these two new blocks, which has been pending for a while, has been fully ratified now by the government. You can see Dussafu there in the orange. Niosi and Guduma are the new blocks. We've joint ventured together with Vaalco , who operate the Etame Field there to the northeast of Dussafu, and with BW Energy, who are obviously the operator of the Dussafu area.

We've effectively got this large contiguous area here, which is full of existing oil production, existing oil discoveries, and historical work with 3D seismic. It's a great partnership because between the three of us, we probably understand this area better than anybody else. The next big planning underway is to acquire seismic on this. It's possible we may also see an early well into one of the blocks in due course. That's yet to be decided, but this is a prolific area where the Gamba reservoir and the Dentale are to be found with existing discoveries on these blocks. In terms of the long-term continuation of the success story that we've had at Dussafu and that VAALCO Energy have had at Etame, this really, I think, provides a runway for many, many years to come of continued success here in this area.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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In Equatorial Guinea, we have two fields here, the Ceiba f ield and the Okume Complex. The Okume Complex has been producing more or less in line with expectation. At Ceiba, we have had, as announced back in the first quarter results and indeed in the most recent trading update since April, we've had some unplanned downtime issues which have impacted production. By my estimates, we're probably about, on a gross basis, about 5,000 bbl a day less than Ceiba should be producing. There are plans in place. It's not a reservoir issue. It's a subsea equipment issue. The operator is working extremely hard and diligently to turn this around. We expect to have that turnaround starting during the fourth quarter, actually in the next couple of months.

It's a temporary issue, but it has given us unplanned downtime on this asset, which again, we anticipate to fully recover that production during the fourth quarter into early next year. The next plans on this asset are considering an infill drilling campaign, perhaps with a jackup on the shallower end of the Okume side of things, which may include looking at something in EG-01, which is the Panoro operated. We're in that with Kosmos- Panoro operated exploration block, which just sits south of Okume. I would expect more news on that campaign to be forthcoming during 2026.

Next slide, please.

Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

One of the interesting things that we have, the most interesting thing I think in our portfolio that we have right now is this new block, EG-23. It's early stage. We're at the point now where we've just awarded a seismic reprocessing contract.

The geoscientists are busy working on it. As you can see there in the blue, that's our block. I don't think I have to be a geologist to see that we are in an extremely prolific fairway here. We've got the Niger Delta there, the southern part of the Niger Delta in Nigeria with multi-billion barrel discovered reserves and resources. Lots of production in there. We've got the Zafiro Field, which has already produced over a billion barrels. We've got the Alba Field just to the south of us, which has already produced in excess of a billion barrels. In Cameroon, which is just above us, there are multiple oil and gas fields historically. We feel like we're in a very, very exciting area. We have 80% of this block, so we have lots of room to eventually bring in some partners.

The commercialization of. There are discoveries on this block. The commercialization of any production, though, is reasonably straightforward as there is a large LNG plant there in Punta Europa. I think you can see that maybe just on the main island there. That is an LNG facility operated by ConocoPhillips. This is an area that is full of oil, gas, and continents. We think we've got one of the most exciting blocks in the country. This is going to be one to watch for us.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

Tunisia's gross production was 3,100 bbl a day. We've had some good success on recent workovers. We've had some volatility, obviously, in production and operations in Tunisia over the past couple of years, as you followers will know. At the moment, touch wood, things are pretty steady and going reasonably well.

We have some activities planned for early next year as well, which could see production increase further. That predominantly is around the Ruemera field where we're awaiting the final ratification of the license renewal. That's one to watch early n ext year.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

A slide showing the portfolio that we built here. We've shown versions of this slide before, but I think it's an important one to note with our reserve position, strong 2P reserve position at 42. That doesn't include the Bourdon discovery, which initially looks like it's around, to net Panoro, around 4 million bbl. Our contingent resource base currently around 26 million bbl. EG-23, which I've touched on in Equatorial Guinea, we don't have a competent purchase report on that yet, but there have been over 100 million bbl of contingent resource identified there through previous owners.

We still have lots of infrastructure-led exploration at Dussafu itself, all the remaining prospects there. We have a portfolio of other assets in the EOSI, Gaduma, EG01, and some other projects as well. We think that we've set up a company that has a very, very strong organic upside to exploit over the coming years on top of our existing production and 2P reserves.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

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Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

Just some key messages for the half year and corporately. On the production side, our first half production is in line. It's up 26% year- on- year. We announced earlier this year a greater than 300% reserve replacement ratio. That's very high in our industry. If you can get 100%, you're doing really well. I hope you had a particularly good year. That was before the Bourdon calculation as well.

Hopefully, we will be able to report some good reserve replacement next year as well. That gives us, based on current production rates, around a 10-year 2P reserve life, 16 years on a 2P + 2C basis. Again, getting back to the point that we have a very long-term business on our hands. On the exploration and appraisal side, we've made the Bourdon discovery. We have the new blocks. We've basically secured this entire southern part of Gabon, chasing this Gamba, this prolific Gamba reservoir. We know that there's going to be additional discoveries there in due course. I've touched on EG-23 already, which is, I think, one of the most exciting things we have in the portfolio right now.

Qazi Qadeer
CFO, Panoro Energy

On the financial side.

Kim Hansen
Head of Engineering, Panoro Energy

We think that we're in line with the guidance there so far. Our bond issue, which was a big success, has really strengthened our liquidity position and gives us strength vis-à-vis the market as well. Our CapEx guidance is materially lower than last year in line with guidance.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Finally, on the shareholder returns, we think shareholder returns, we've shown that through our exploration drilling and our reserve and production growth, these are very, very accretive things. We've used shareholder funds to grow our net asset value, but we've also had a quarterly cash distribution and share buybacks. All of these things together have given us a really enhanced ability, we believe, to capitalize on new ventures, both opportunistic, but we're also very focused on value and making sure that anything new that we would do would be accretive to the current business that we have. With that, I'm going to finish and open up the line for questions.

As a reminder, you can raise your hand by pressing the hand icon there, or you can type in a question. We will endeavor to answer questions, written questions, to the extent they haven't already been asked and ensuring that they're relevant for the wider group. My colleague Andy is going to take over from here and see if we have any questions.

Moderator

Thank you, John. We'll start the Q&A with Stephane Foucaud. Stephen, you're unmuted. If you could please go ahead and ask.

Stephane Foucaud
Analyst, Auctus Advisors

Good morning, John. Thanks for taking my question. I've got three. The first one is around Rhemoura and Guebiba. During the program, you're starting to define a drilling program. Could you maybe give us an idea of timing, materiality, and so forth? Is it a 2026 event, 2027? Similar question for EG-23. As you said, this is an extremely material block for Panoro. You talk about a competent person report and maybe you have some potential development and exploration drilling. Likewise, any sense of timing of this competent person report as a fiscal event, a bit later, and then a first drilling. Lastly, on the financial, on the CAPEX in 2026, so expect it to be more than $25 million, but it was, I think, much higher. Thank you.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Sure. On the drilling plans for Rhemoura and Guebiba, these are, I wouldn't say, necessarily new wells. These are principally workovers at this point. It's not new drilling. It's kind of low-cost interventions. On Rhemoura , we have one well, which is currently shut in pending a workover, but it's also pending the ratification of the extension, which we're waiting on from the Tunisian authorities. As soon as we receive that, they can see us go in as quickly as possible. I anticipate what can probably in the first quarter, yeah, to re-enter that well. The materiality of that well is probably a 300- 500 bbl a day range on a gross basis. We have half of that. In Guebiba, there are a number of, there's always things going on there. At the current moment, we don't have plans for actually new material, new drills.

That will come principally in Rhemoura in due course. In Rhemoura , we have a beautiful-looking new target to drill, but that's going to require a fresh well rather than a workover. That's an activity that's a little bit off in the future. I think you're going to expect some smaller incremental workovers, which could move the needle in aggregate. Obviously, Tunisia being our smallest production asset at the moment, in the wider group, they are not hugely material, but very important nonetheless to get right. In EG-23, I think the plan now is we've just awarded the reprocessing contract. There's been a lot of historical 2D and 3D. Marathon used to operate this block and previous operators. There's lots and lots of good data on this. Indeed, there are a number of discoveries already on the block.

It's our task now to kind of throw the best of the new technology at that. Nobody's really done anything on that asset for quite a long time. We've just awarded a contract to an external party to reprocess the seismic there. I think once we've reprocessed that seismic and the geoscientists have had a chance to kind of interpret that, look at the drilling prospects, I think you would probably see us at that point looking to maybe validate some of that through an external CPR, as we call it. We might also seek to identify relevant partners to bring in at that point. It's not Panoro's intention to run with super high equity levels in exploration blocks, particularly when it comes to the heavier spend. This is all light spend at the moment.

In due course, this is the kind of thing that we believe larger oil companies would be quite interested in. I think as of 2026, the onion will start getting peeled back in 2026 on that one. Your last question on CapEx 26, it's a little too early to give you anything definitive, Stefan, as we haven't had our annual joint venture meetings. Budgets, as you know, usually get set September, October, November. Those are all coming up. Might be able to give you a better and clearer answer by the third quarter results in November. However, when asked that question by analysts, what we typically have said is, look, why don't you earmark something around the 2025 levels if you need to put something at your model for now? I don't think it's going to be wildly off. I hope that answers your question at least as an answer.

Stephane Foucaud
Analyst, Auctus Advisors

Thank you very much.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question is from Ntebogang Segone. Ntebogang, you're unmuted. Could you please go ahead and ask your question? Thank you.

Ntebogang Segone
Analyst, Investec Private Bank

Thank you so much. Morning everyone. I think two questions for me. If I look at your EBITDA from a segmental level, the biggest downside comes from the Equatorial Guinea side, where EBITDA has gone down from $30 million- $6 million. Outside of just sales being the impact, how much from a cost perspective did the EBITDA get impacted by? Could you please just break down the OpEx per barrel cost? What are your consolidated first, and then also, of course, each asset for me. Thank you.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Suggest, if you don't mind, for the purpose of efficiency, let's get after your EBITDA question. In terms of getting into the segmentals, maybe we can take that one together with Andy offline and try and get you some granular. I don't want to get too caught up in going back through the back pages of the report, if you don't mind. Qazi, on the EBITDA and the segmental.

Qazi Qadeer
CFO, Panoro Energy

The EBITDA on the segmental, I think what would happen is that it's largely driven by liftings. If you think about it, there is no liftings in the current quarter for Equatorial Guinea. As we announced, there is going to be a lifting or there was a lifting in July in the third quarter, which is going to be included in our results for the third quarter. That is when all the cost that is accumulated in the inventories will be thought as a cost of sales. I think it would be a better description of the EBITDA contribution of EG at that point of time.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Great. Andy, do you mind following up on the remaining questions? I'm happy to have a conversation separately on that one.

Moderator

Absolutely. Thank you. The next questions have been submitted online, John. Obviously, we are substantially unhedged. There are views in the market with risk skewed to the downside in regards to oil price looking forward. Can you please comment on the basis for our hedging strategy and what you see and how you may see that evolving looking forward? Secondly, the share is trading, as is much of the sector, at a significant discount to NAV. What do you see the company can be doing to address that discount to NAV and narrow it? Thank you.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Sure. Hedging is both a very technical subject and a philosophical one. Many investors don't like oil companies to be hedged because one of the reasons they invest in them is to enjoy the upside that they, in that particular investment thesis, believe that oil is too low and will go up and the shares should re-rate off the back of that. Obviously, in times of lower oil prices, I think everybody loves hedges and hopes that some companies have put them in place. At Panoro, what we try and do is we try and find a balance there because we do recognize that the vast majority of shareholders, of people investing in shares in the E&P market, invest in for the oil price upside as well as each company's individual prospects.

We do try to make sure that when we have our liftings, and that's really the key here, is that we don't get a nasty surprise. What we tend to do is we operationally hedge. We look at our lifting schedules and we try and identify months in which we believe we have significant liftings. Those liftings can shift by a month or two, as everybody knows. It is a little tricky sometimes to nail down the month. What we tend to do is we put in costless collars. As an example, year to date, you'll see some little noise through the P&L on hedging gains or losses. We've had good hedging outcome, I think, so far this year. We, like everybody, got quite scared when oil dropped down to $60, I think, through Liberation Day and all these things.

I think what we've seen there is the market kind of tested $60 and it bounced back, obviously. We're sitting at around, what, $66 at the moment, something like that. These levels are okay for Panoro. We're in a very profitable business at current levels, but obviously, we'd like higher oil prices. Year to date, we've done a bunch of hedging that protected $60, that protected $70, on a portfolio basis. Those hedges have worked well for us. Our realizations to date are around $66, $67 a barrel. When you see those numbers, you have to remember that there's also discounts usually to the crude. We don't trade necessarily, our crude doesn't always trade at Brent. Sometimes it trades above it, sometimes below it. The other thing is that the Brent prices you see on the screen are different from the dated Brent prices that we realize.

Usually, dated Brent is a little bit higher. In our hedging, that's what we really try and address is that when we lift in, say, November, we already know we're going to lift in November, for instance, this year. We think that's the date for a very big lifting for us in Gabon. We start looking at that and building up protections on that cargo to make sure that if for whatever reason there's a few days in November where the oil price drops, we don't get left hanging. There's that. Discount to NAV, yes. The sector trades at a discount to NAV. We trade at a discount to NAV. Sometimes we trade at a bigger discount to NAV than our peers. Sometimes we trade at a better discount to NAV. That discount to NAV is kind of always, always there, unfortunately.

Over the past years, we've had a lot of ESG that's been keeping a lot of the big institutional investors out of oil and gas. We're seeing that change. We're seeing institutional investors recognizing, again, the energy transition is a process, not an event. It'll take a long time. We're all seeing a better influx of institutional capital into E&P shares. Panoro itself has obviously managed to attract a number of very large institutional shareholders in the past couple of years. It is a valid question. How do we continue to close that gap? At Panoro, obviously, we are trying to do, as we said, what we're going to do in terms of the distributions and keeping those going. We believe we have an attractive profile in that respect. We also believe that size is important.

When you're a smaller to mid-sized company, you're getting less institutional attention than you are if you're a bigger company. That's why we've had a track record of doing creative deals. We continue to look at finding creative deals. The prize in finding those creative deals is obviously, A, doing a smart deal, but, B, getting bigger. I think one of the principal ways that we can close that discount to NAV is to continue to try and find the right deals for the company going forward. I think starting to bring forward some of the excitement around our exploration portfolio, which doesn't get any value in the market, and that's just the way the market is at the moment. Sometimes the market buys exploration, sometimes it doesn't.

We are putting the tools in place as we bring these exploration blocks forward and mature them for drilling and for competent purchase reports and contingent resources and eventually reserves that will continue to fill that hopper. We just have to continue to get out there and find additional investors. That's always something we do and try and do, and we'll keep doing it. I think that probably deals with that one, Andy.

Moderator

Yes, thank you very much, John. The next question is from David Mirzai. David, you're unmuted. If you could please go ahead and ask a question. Thank you.

David Mirzai
Analyst, SP Angel

Thank you, Andy. Thank you, John. Two questions from me. First, John, just on the Dussafu permit. I mean, if I look at the numbers quarter- on- quarter, you seem to have peaked production in Q1. There seems to be somewhat of a 5% decline or thereabouts in Q2. Is that operational or is that reservoir-based? Do you expect that to continue until you drill the new wells in early 2026? Just secondly, on Equatorial Guinea and the license there, obviously, the obvious outlet for any discovery would be the Bioko Island LNG facility. There's a number of other explorers looking for new gas resources in and around that area. How competitive do you feel that any new discovery that you made would place you above those other companies and any discoveries they would make? Thank you.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Thanks, David. I'm just through, it's, you know, as we all know, wells decline. The decline you note is just natural decline. BW Energy is the operator. That profile is more or less as guided by BW to the market, therefore by us as well. I think that you'll continue to kind of see a natural decline there in Dussafu until such time as we come with the new campaign, which will be about a year from now, let's call it, where four new wells will come on.

I think the bigger picture for me, the way I like to look at it with Dussafu is, I think Dussafu is a 30,000- 40,000 bbl a day production asset for the next as many years as you can really count on, looking at E&P, let's call it the next five years or so, with the ability to manage that decline by introducing new wells. Every time we put one of these new wells in, they're very, very cheap. I mean, they are less than $10 a barrel to bring on and extremely good operating costs in those areas. It's really a matter of continuing to replace that natural reservoir decline by adding the new wells to it. I think what you'll see there is that natural decline. I think that's, as I think we've said in BW, it's in line with the expectation and guidance on that one.

On Bioko Island, the issue there, I propose you don't know, there's an LNG plant there which is managed by ConocoPhillips, it's owned by Chevron as well, as well as the government of Equatorial Guinea. That has been a very, very profitable LNG plant for ConocoPhillips and Chevron over the years. Chevron has some gas fields, kind of oil fields to the southeast, with ConocoPhillips just directly to the north in the Alba field. Both of those assets are in, they've been producing for a long time and are in decline. There is some infill drilling on the Chevron side of things. There are currently two other E&P companies, the Marathon Energy, the old Africa Oil, and another small private company that have assets in the area. They're also looking for things that might be able to go into that LNG plant.

The LNG plant has lots and lots of ullage on it. It can handle lots more gas. It's producing at way below its capacity. I would say that there's room for everybody. I would say that we might have a slight advantage in the sense that our field on commercialization of any discovery drilling there can just tie straight into the Alba system and come straight onshore. Other blocks may not quite have that same advantage. There have to be some infrastructure considerations there that might be slightly more complicated. I think all of those companies are chasing very interesting blocks. I'm not going to say anything bad about those. I think we think we've got the best one now. Again, we can cooperate with ConocoPhillips, who sit just to the south of us with their Alba infrastructure there. I don't personally see at this point that competition is a bad thing in terms of that gas.

David Mirzai
Analyst, SP Angel

Yeah. Just one last question for you, John. You've obviously improved your capital structure dramatically over the last 12 months. Certainly the.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Sorry, could you say that again?

David Mirzai
Analyst, SP Angel

Sorry. You've been able to, pardon me, you've been able to improve your capital structure at Panoro quite significantly following high production levels, being able to improve your cash flow, issue a bond, start paying out a regular dividend, and do the share buyback. If we're looking for the next stage of growth, as you say, larger companies tend to get a smaller discount or a smaller discount rate than smaller companies. What would be the next stage in your capital structure evolution? Do you think that, for example, if you're able to double your production, new avenues of debt would be made available to you? What's the real pickup from getting larger in terms of capital structure? Thank you.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

I think the first part of it is getting back to that original question that came in online around a discount to NAV. I think just being bigger, having more assets, that diversification of assets, we've really kind of benefited from that when sometimes, you know, in the oil and gas business, you know, there can often be issues associated with one asset or another, and having that diversification matters. I think us adding additional assets to the portfolio is a way of addressing some of that discount to NAV. The size being bigger attracts more funds. In terms of the ability to tap the debt markets, yes, I think the bigger you get, the more competitive those rates are and the better avenues that you can find into the fixed income market. We had a very successful, we believe, bond issue that was well received. It's trading well.

I think the credit in the market is strong. We think that we now have that platform through that bond issue, as you say, through our capital structure, through the diversification we have to continue to grow the company both inorganically. If we can find something that makes sense for shareholders, we'll do it. We think we've got the platform to do that. Obviously, to the extent we can't find the right deals and those are not attractive from a capital allocation perspective, we'll continue to grow our organic portfolio. Certainly, I'd agree with you that being bigger is going to help us close that discount to NAV.

David Mirzai
Analyst, SP Angel

Brilliant. Thanks, guys.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Thank you.

Moderator

The next question is from Christoffer Bachke. Christoffer, I believe you're self-muted. If you could please unmute yourself and go ahead with your question.

Christoffer Bachke
Equity Analyst, Clarksons Securities

Thank you.

Moderator

Okay, we can come back to that one if Christoffer lets us know if you're about. Otherwise, John, final question to wrap up today comes in online. Obviously, it doesn't feature prominently in our materials, but could you please elaborate a little bit on activity at the helium play exploration rights onshore South Africa?

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Yes, apologies for not putting it in our report. It is a very, very interesting project for those of you who followed our entry into the helium and methane gas plant in South Africa. South Africa is a country that is very reliant on coal for its electricity generation. In our commitment towards the transition, we've always been looking for ways that we can use our subsurface skills to try to show that commitment to the transition. It was never meant to be a big capital outlay for us, but more to demonstrate that we're doing things in Africa to assist with the transition. The project is a very interesting one. It sits in the sweet spot of this basin, which has got proven helium and very shallow methane gas. There is one project there which is up and running, which basically produces gas.

They strip out the helium, which sells for crazy, crazy rates of $1,000 an MCF, that kind of thing. The gas is then used either for local CNG or small-scale LNG going into the transportation sector, again, displacing fuel, displacing eventually coal into the power sector. The process in South Africa is long, the sort of environmental approvals. We're in the middle of the environmental approvals for that. We've submitted everything to do with that, and we're basically waiting on what is a little bit of a lengthy process in South Africa. It's a very competent process, but it's a lengthy process in South Africa to get the full environmental approvals for the next stage of the project. The next stage of the project would involve probably getting some gravity data over the area. That's the FTG.

It doesn't cost much money, but it'll give you a really good indication of the underlying subsurface and where best to focus any initial exploratory drilling. I think it's a project that we feel strategically probably could form part of another company. Maybe we can create a separate business around it. It's not going to be something that chews up a lot of capital in Panoro, but it's something we feel very strongly about. We'll continue to try and nurture it alone and incubate it and hopefully put it in a good place in due course that the project really can flourish and that Panoro and its shareholders can benefit directly or indirectly from that.

Moderator

Thank you very much, John. There is a further question from Stephen Foucaud. Stephen, you're unmuted. Could you please ask your question? Thank you.

Stephane Foucaud
Analyst, Auctus Advisors

Yes, thank you for taking my forward question. I'm back on Gabon and in light of what you said, John, about Bourdon, the potential exploration upside around it, I was wondering how current is this 25 million bbl overall prospective resources net to Panoro or in Dussafu?

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Sorry, how current did you say?

Stephane Foucaud
Analyst, Auctus Advisors

I mean, yes, by this, I mean, I think the 25 million bbl prospective resources was, I think, some time ago. Of course, we had the Bourdon discovery, but you were talking about further upside around the Bourdon discovery. I was wondering whether it was in the 25 million bbl prospective resources or whether that number could not have become larger since it was first estimated.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

I see. Actually, no, I think for the moment we're sticking together with BW Energy around that range. We talked about in the Dussafu slide the four well development drilling campaign in the Hibiscus/Hibiscus South field . What's going to happen most likely, again, it needs to be agreed between joint venture, but what will happen most likely is we will come and drill those four development wells, which will increase production again. When the rig is there, we may do some more exploratory drilling in that Bourdon area. Having drilled the well on a couple of side tracks, we now have three different bits of well control there. That's given the geoscientists the chance to kind of remap that whole area. It was different than expected, but we found a lot of oil.

What we're seeing there is there are two or three other areas, satellites, if I can call them that, to this Bourdon discovery we've made that look very interesting. We believe 25 million bbl is commercial itself and justifies a small platform development there tied back into the pipeline. However, it's always nice to find more. I think the debate in the joint venture will be, you know, what do we do when the rig comes back? Should we poke around a little bit more and just see whether some of those satellites might hold additional oil? Some of them are smallish, some of them are quite big. It's a little early. I think we're just going to stick with the number we've got for the moment, though.

Stephane Foucaud
Analyst, Auctus Advisors

I was not so much talking about what has been discovered at Bourdon, but about the remaining prospectivity on the license, which I think you're carrying currently into some figures. Bourdon, 25 million bbl prospective resources outside of what has been discovered. I was wondering whether that has grown following particularly the discovery of Bourdon and the final new play remapping and so forth.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

No, I think it's too early to say that, Stephen. I think, you know, that prospect inventory needs to be entirely refreshed, you know, following the Bourdon discovery. We've been really focusing on the Bourdon area. With the new seismic coming in on the new blocks, we're going to also have a quick look at what that seismic tells us about Dussafu. Still to come. Those numbers are still valid and have not been updated as yet.

Stephane Foucaud
Analyst, Auctus Advisors

Thank you.

We do have, what, is it something like 88% drilling success in this area? That post-salt, sort of pre-salt Gamba prospects we see, we kind of can now, not with 100% certainty, but with a high degree of certainty, really identify where the traps are here. We've got a good track record there of finding more oil. There's going to be a lot more oil to be found here. We don't have a new number for you other than the historical one that's there.

Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you, John. That will conclude today's Q&A. Thank you.

John Hamilton
CEO, Panoro Energy

Thank you, everybody. I look forward to keeping you updated. Thank you.

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