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CMD 2024

May 16, 2024

Speaker 19

We supply tools and systems to build wind parks. You enjoy a dinner with friends. We make food production more energy efficient. You sing along with your favorite band. We supply solar-powered light to the event.

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Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Great! Welcome to Atlas Copco Capital Markets Day 2024. Welcome to all of you here on site. Good to see so many people here in Belgium, and welcome to you participating via the web. Before we move on to today's agenda, some safety instructions. In case of emergency, and we need to evacuate, there will be an alarm, a loud alarm, and that means that we need to leave the building. Then please use one of the two emergency exits on each side of this room. You can also see it here on the blueprint. Now, the agenda. It's gonna be a rather busy day, and we will start with a group presentation by Vagner and Peter, followed by business area presentation by Andrew Walker, and then a short break, but efficient break.

After that, you will listen to Compressor Technique, followed by the Q&A sessions. For those of you on the web, you will be able to write your written questions. We are the player. After the Q&A, an even more efficient and quick lunch. Because after the lunch, we want to show you the real stuff. We're gonna show you the Innovation Tour, and we're gonna go on buses to our premises here in Antwerp. And I say it already now, 12:45 P.M. sharp, the buses will leave. They will leave at 12:45 P.M. We have lost investors before. We will not do it today, but I give the responsibility to you. We end the day at 4:30 P.M. Some of you, I know, have chosen to leave earlier. I will come on to that, okay?

A busy day, and in order to make all this work smoothly and for your convenience, there are some logistics, so please pay attention to the following slide. But before I move on to that, the presentations can already now be downloaded from our website at this URL or on the IR. You go into the IR website. So logistics. Make sure you have checked out from this hotel. If you haven't done so yet, please do it during the break. The buses, again, 12:45 sharp. We take care of your luggage, and that will be collected by you at the end of the Innovation Tour. When we're done with this event today, we will all end at our premises in Antwerp. There are transportations organized based on the details you provided.

I know that some of you have a bit of changes already, so, and we advise you to contact the registration desk during the break. Now there's got to be some details here, so pay attention, please. There will be buses and taxis to Antwerp Central train station. It's gonna be to Brussels train station. It's gonna be some individual addresses. You have been informed by us. All these buses gonna be marked with the special destinations. Then we have you early leavers. Extra important for you, who's gonna leave us at 4:00 P.M. or 3:00 P.M. to 3:30 P.M., that you really stick to your assigned group. You all have a color on your badge. Again, if anything in your departure has changed, please contact the registration desk. Now, it's time.

With those words, I hand over to our President and CEO, Vagner Rego. Welcome up on stage.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Thank you, Daniel, and good morning and welcome to this Capital Markets Day. My name is Vagner Rego. I'm the new CEO of the Atlas Copco Group, a group that has been around for 151 years, as you know, and have been present in my daily life and your daily life as well, since the moment you decided to leave to this event. You took a taxi, you took an airplane, you came to this hotel, you had some food yesterday. In all these touch points, we are present, supporting different industries to provide products. If you take, for instance, the transportation industry, like I said, car manufacturing, airplanes, trains, roads, and then even space, we are involved in that industry. If you need to transport satellites to space, we are also involved in that industry.

Newer industries, semiconductor industry, but also traditional industries, like steel, production. So we are involved in our daily life, and we have been transforming ourselves along these 151 years, adding new products, adding new addressable markets. And with that strategy, over the 151 years that we are in the market, we managed to deliver our products in 182 countries, so pretty impressive presence and footprint. And to do that, we have 53,000 employees deployed in 71 countries. And that combination allowed us to deliver SEK 153 billion last year in revenues, with a solid profitability of 21.5%, and also solid return on capital employed. And this group, I'm really feel honored and proud to be the new CEO.

But I think you are here to learn a little bit more about the group, and we have our agenda. A very brief highlight on the result of last quarter, a little bit about finance. We will spend a bit of time to discuss once again about our decentralized model, what we call a truly decentralized model, reconfirm our strategy and fundamentals to grow, and then Peter will come on stage to talk about financials, and we will summarize with the main points. But if I start on Q1 result 2024, I think you all remember Q1 2023. I guess many of you were in the conference call when we had a fantastic record quarter. As you can see, it was all-time high quarter. All the business areas performed very well. We had a tough comparison, but still, Q1 was a solid quarter.

We are quite happy with the outcome. If we look to industrial compressors against a very high comparison, we still delivered a flat quarter. Vacuum was slightly down, now mainly because of Industrial Vacuum. We also explained during the call, lithium battery in production and solar in China had an influence, but still solid numbers. Slight growth in Industrial Technique was also positive, quite happy with that development, mainly coming from Europe and North America. Power Technique had a very strong comparison base, very strong. So, but still solid numbers. One thing that I'm very happy about. I spent almost 20 years in service within the group, so I've did several jobs, including the president of the service division.

I'm so happy and proud to see all the business areas and all the divisions within the business areas. All the service divisions are performing very well. They are really capturing the aftermarket potential, and you will see more about it as well, and solid profit and return on capital employed. But then, if we zoom out on a long-term perspective, you can see that we have delivered solid figures over the years, fulfilling our commitment of 8% growth over the business cycle, solid profitability. And then, if I stop a little bit here on 2020, which was a tough year for everyone, we still managed to deliver solid figures, quite solid revenue, almost flat revenue, and solid profitability. That shows that the focus we have on resilience is really paying off.

The focus we have on the service divisions is also paying off. I think that's also important to highlight. Return on capital employed, it's varying depending on the acquisition we make. Here you see an acquisition that was quite relevant, down, but we managed to work our way back to 30%. Also solid figures. Another point that is very important on our strategy, you have seen our revenue evolution over the years, but it's also important to highlight it, to highlight that we are not so exposed to a single market segment. This diversity in market segments is also a part of our strategy, and something that we will continue to work on to be able to be present in some niche markets that will offer growth, but also diversification, that allows us to continue to be resilient.

also very important point in our strategy. Then going to our decentralized model, what we call a truly decentralized model, what is important here in this first slide, I think you all know how we are organized. We have the group management, group center, four business areas. Within the business areas, we have the divisions. I will come later to talk more about the divisions. But here, one thing that is important for us, and we will keep an eye on it, to keep the focus, to continue to be organized like that, is in our group center. We have quite lean group center. Less than 2% of the employees are positioned in the group center. Lately, we did invest a little bit more. Why?

You have items like IT and cybersecurity, and you all agree that is an area that we have to be very careful and make the right investments to protect the company, and that we are doing, and is an area that we will continue to pay attention. But the main focus is to keep a lean headquarters and move most of the operational things to the divisions and business areas. But then we like to talk about ourselves, but everything starts with our customers. They are the reasons we are here. They are the ones that create sometimes even the way we are organized, because I want to talk about decentralization, but the way we couple divisions and business areas has also to do with our customers, how to serve customers in a better way.

So we are starting with our customers, then we have we group our products and solutions to serve our customer in the best possible way. But then I would like to use my former business area that I was responsible for until two weeks ago to explain a little bit more about the decentralized way of Atlas Copco. So we have the business areas. Within the business areas, we have the divisions. So within Compressor Technique, we have we have seven divisions. Every division is grouped in a different in a way that makes sense for the end users. If I use Industrial Air, Industrial Air is covering equipment up to 90 kW. What is the responsibility of Industrial Air? They have a person assigned, a divisional president, with a full P&L responsibility and a management team around him.

What is his mission? He has to develop the products, the best-in-class products. They need to decide where to produce, when, how. Then, after production, you need to sell the products, and they are the ones deciding how this product should be sold. In Compressor Technique, below 90 kW are smaller compressors. What type of customers do we have? Is it big organizations or not? No, most of times, we are talking about smaller and medium-sized organization. How to serve those customers in a way that we deliver customer satisfaction, but also, we increase our presence in the market. And then you have one man, together with his management team, decide on that, and that give us what we call focus. We are focused in a product, and sometimes we also have a focus in a market segment.

If you take Medical Gas Solutions, like the name says, is to cover the medical gas. One thing is to serve an industry, another thing is to sell to a hospital. Different regulations we need to follow, different mindsets, different ways to work and interact, different stakeholders in a hospital that you have to talk with. So, and then we cluster in that way. And within the group, we have several examples like that. And sometimes, we also, in the past, we haven't talked too much about that, but I think it's important. We have the focus with the divisions, but sometimes even the divisions need a little bit more granularity to understand their business worldwide. We also do...

We divide further those divisions and subgroups, what we call business line, and that is also a global P&L that allow us to really zoom in and say, "Oh, we have a problem here, we have a problem there." And we create more and more accountability in the organization on how to run, how to manage, how to focus on the right direction. But how do we deploy all that in the field? We have people in 71 countries, then we have different types of entities. So first of all, we have product companies. What is the mission of a product company? To design the best product at the lowest possible price, cost, let's say. So design the product at lowest possible cost.

Then we have distribution centers that will take the product. We will store or not, depending on the market segment, and will distribute those products, again, at the lowest possible cost. Then we have customer centers. What do they do? They are responsible to sell the best-in-class products, to create value to our customers, and value for our customers should also create value for the company. And the combination of people responsible to create, produce the product, lowest possible cost, selling, value selling to our customer, will create the operational margins that we have. Another point, that creates as well accountability, because those companies, they have a general manager. And in Atlas Copco, a General Manager, he is responsible for the full P&L and balance sheet of that company. So he has ownership, again, accountability.

But then we have another element that is important in our strategy that I would like to highlight. If you see the layers, we have a business area. The business area is very lean. Used to be myself, my controller, HR, a little bit of HR support, few functions, not too many. It's very lean. A lot of things are happening here in the division because they are the highest operational reporting level. And if the president of Industrial Air decide, "Oh, we need to ramp up production, or we need to scale down," it's the president with the product company manager talking and deciding. That means we don't have too many layers, and that brings as well speed on the action plans, not too many internal negotiation.

I think that is a good summary of how we are organized to bring focus on market segment, to give the best chance of our products or solutions in a certain market segment. We have accountability because we slice the business in a quite detailed level, and we give ownership to our people about, you are responsible about this P&L. And then also speed, because we don't have too many layers, not too many internal negotiations. And how is that? We have, in total, four business areas, like you said. Like I said, within the four business areas, 23 divisions, and then we have also 600 entities spread among product company, customer centers, and distribution center. There are some other legal entities, but that's not relevant for our discussions.

We have 360 customer center entities all over the world, and because you have different products, sometimes different brands, with ownership, with accountability, with people responsible for that, P&L. It spread all over the world, giving a good revenue distribution that we have, that is more or less one third, one third, and a little bit more in Asia. But that's not the only thing that we need to be successful. We have a good organizational structure. We have the 600 entities that we need to follow up the P&L in a decentralized way. It's not Peter Kinnart that every month goes to 600 P&Ls, so he sees the aggregated value. Our people in the field is doing that. So within those 600 P&Ls, more than thirty-four thousand business lines distributed and followed up.

But that's not enough. We need also to have a certain culture. The organization needs to agree as well in the way we are organized. And, and to talk and spread about our culture, we have this Atlas Copco book that is a fantastic tool, and I still remember when I was hired as a young engineer in Brazil, and the same book was opened to me, and the general manager, at that time, the business line manager, discussed page by page. And I was so amazed with the rationale behind those pages, that you start to understand how to take decisions. And I'm now almost 20 years old, 10, 20 years in the group, and I'm still talk about the book, and I'm still use the book to take decisions, and I still refer to the pages to explain the rationale of my decisions.

I think that is something that you should not underestimate, how important it is for the group, how do we talk and spread our culture? I have been just appointed, and before I took over as CEO, I was visiting some new companies, and it was so nice to see that they start to talk about the book. Now I understand. We cannot do this because that is according to the—Yes! So, and then you start to spread. I have been in some sessions of acquired companies, where you talk about our culture, how do we take decisions? Why do we do less and not right? Is it right, not the logical way? Yeah, but we stick to what we know, and I think that has served us very well along the years.

When we talk about decentralization, you could think about, "Oh, but these people are, everybody's doing whatever they want." It's not like that. We have a lot of work on to in common processes. A lot of work is done here within the business area to align the process, cross-group as well, as much as we can. We also have hubs, service hubs, like engineering centers, more than 1,000 people. We have finance hubs, also HR, communications. We work a lot in hubs, providing services to the entire group, and some of the acquired entities, they really benefit from that, because that means as well, when you have those hubs here...

Remember, the three entities we were talking about, product companies, distribution center, and customer, they don't spend time on things, on legal things, on accounting, they will spend time on the business, impacting the P&L in a good, positive way. But also, we're trying to align as much as possible cross-business areas or at group level in our processes. We also buy a lot of things together. We have a very active logistic council, where we do bidding together in terms of... There are a lot of things that we do together. Decentralization doesn't mean we don't talk, and we don't do things together. I think that's also important. We do try to manage as much as possible. But don't forget, the focus is the business development.

We are organized that way because the leverage we have when you penetrate in a market, and you get a good market share at a good gross margin, I think the benefit, it's really, really good. So, and again, there is so many ways to define leadership. I like this one because if you see what I was talking about, the book, and there is also a very nice page in this book here, where we talk about leadership model, where we define as our leadership model, the, the fact that everybody has a mission. Everybody has the opportunity to discuss about the mission with their boss. "Oh, did I understand well? What do you mean with the mission?" Then you build a strategy, and then you deliver result. If you do that in a granular way, you can really build lasting results.

My definition of lasting results, long-lasting result, is not that you do something and you get the result in 10 years from now. We have to deliver every day, every week, every month, every quarter, every year, so. That granularity and focus we have allow us to do that, give us- give ownership to our entities to act and deliver lasting results. We have two business areas that are not present here today, so. I will give some highlight, highlights of these two business areas. Vacuum Technique, as you know, focuses on semiconductor, but not only, I would like to emphasize.

Industrial vacuum is also very important, and we have been developing, and we had acquired quite a lot of companies and products that we didn't have in the portfolio, and we are getting stronger and stronger in Industrial Vacuum as well. But they are also working to add some adjacent technologies that make sense that I will come back later on in the presentation with that. But they focus on the main product lines, dry vacuum pumps, turbomolecular pumps, cryopumps, abatement system. We were not so strong in liquid ring pumps, but we have done some acquisition that strengthened our position. And we were able to get quite some nice orders. The development, you see, we had this super cycle more or less two years ago.

We believe we are very well positioned in this market. The market will grow. When? We don't know exactly, but the trend is there. I think if you look to public data, we are very happy to be in this market, and I think the future looks quite, quite interesting. And a solid, despite of the acquisitions, we have had solid return on capital employed. And you see, we started our journey with Edwards 2014, and it has been a fantastic journey. So... And we are quite happy with the development. Another important journey, because when we acquired, then we started, we created two service divisions, and the development as well has been quite impressive. So very good, very solid development in Vacuum Technique.

To show how do we work with our customers, and I was talking about the service, but the service and equipment is quite interlinked in the semiconductor market, and I would like to show a video how we work with our customers. Please, play.

Speaker 19

Wafer throughput and maintaining production uptime is a key priority for our customers. A chamber going offline and stock is slowing down, leads to a drop in fab efficiency and wafer throughput. The problem is not always in the clean room. It can be hidden away in the sub-fab. With complex processes, the failure could be due to powder buildup in the abatement system, demanding frequent servicing, which results in production downtime, causing increased operational costs and even wafer loss. Previously, residual powder would build up and block the gas inlets and ceramic head, demanding frequent stoppages and servicing every few weeks, or causing excessive use of the backup abatement system. Now, Edwards has released an upgrade for its Atlas and Zenith abatement systems, the porous head. With its unique air cushion, it slows powder buildup for up to an incredible six months, greatly extending the time between services.

As a result, you can avoid costly downtime and unnecessary operational cost, giving you more continuous operation and securing your production efficiency. Committed to innovation, Edwards strives to revolutionize and refine its product and systems design, ensuring that fabs worldwide can reduce downtime and the total cost of ownership to achieve greater production success.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

That's a very nice example from Vacuum Technique. You really need to understand about customer process. You really need to see what is happening, what gases they are using. It's really a good interlink between our entities and our customers. So then Industrial Technique. Here, they are focused on several. They can support several industries in automation, in several solutions. So they have a broad range of products where you can do automation and quality control of production process. A good exposure in automotive. They benefit from the EV transformation with several products. But not only that, they also grow in automotive because they offer more solutions, for instance, with all this portfolio of solutions, when you integrate machine vision solutions together with the tool, all of a sudden.

They have been through a very nice journey that I will explain a little bit more, but all of a sudden, you combine vision with the tool, you create a complete new market. That's what they are doing, combining these technologies, going to the customers with a different angle to provide solutions to improve customer productivity. And several technologies in the portfolio: self-piercing riveting, adhesive dispensing, flow drilling, tightening, machine vision, like I said, drilling, material removal. And that can be combined in automations that will deliver quite a lot of value for our customers. Good progress over the years. Good profitability as well. We really manage on the EV transformation to have quite a lot of orders. If you look to their evolution, quite nice growth over the years. Also, the service performing really well. Again, the focus on service is really paying off.

I would like to give another example, how do we work with our customers? Please.

Speaker 19

Car manufacturers and battery producers face an emerging need to evolve. This transformation pushes them to rethink traditional methods, accelerate innovation, and adopt challenging new materials.... Challenges also include megacastings, as well as leveraging digitalization and automation. At Atlas Copco, we have designed a place specifically for this transformation. It epitomizes speed, expertise, collaboration, and passion for innovation, where our advanced joining solutions are redefining manufacturing, our innovation centers. Together with research institutes, material suppliers, technology providers, and clients, we collaborate to find solutions to both present and future challenges. With our global presence and cross-technology expertise, we position ourselves as your strategic partner in innovation. Let's innovate together in our innovation centers and beyond.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

That is a really good example on how do we innovate. And I think that is, I would like to explain a little bit more, because what we do in those innovation centers, we bring in the customers, and we show all the technologies we have. And the customer start to think, "Oh, with that technology, I could automate this, that. Oh," and then together, they build a solution. They start a project. I think that is a very interesting way to work, and has been served us very, very well. We are quite happy with that approach. So but then, of course, we need to continue to grow, and we are exposed as well to global trends. We all are, and some are quite positive, if you take digitalization.

Still a lot to come in this area with AI that could allow us to sell more to the semiconductor industry, but also will unlock new businesses as well. Developing solutions together with our customers, we will unlock new businesses. So very important area. I was talking about automation, and automation journey will continue. I think we... during the COVID crisis, and then the ramp up in production, several companies, they realized they need to automate further, and we see more projects in that area. Society is really trying to decarbonize, and that we are exposed in that trend as well in several areas of the group. We are also deploying more R&D here to come up with solutions.

I think you will see examples from Andrew and Philippe today, also in the Innovation Tour, real examples on how we could also support our customers to decarbonize their production, and also support society in this big journey that we are in. Deglobalization, here, you do have risks that we try to mitigate, but we should also remember, we are present in 70 countries, and we have distribution in another 100 countries. So whatever trend happens, more production in one place or another, we are also positioned to capture that, and I think that is also something that we should not forget. But what are the fundamentals and the pillars that we use to continue our growth, profitable growth journey? I think, first of all, we want to be positioned in defined niche markets.

We don't want to be everything to everybody, but we want to focus on certain markets where we can really find good growth and good profitability. We want to have a leading position, and it's not a surprise. A leading position brings volume that is also important for cost leadership. We also want to have differentiated technology, and you have seen how much we have invested, how serious we are with technology, and how much we have invested in innovation lately. Also important for us to have products that are critical to our customers in operations. You have seen the example from vacuum. We are really involved in the production process of some customers, which is very important. A leading service offer, I talked quite a lot already about service, but service is not that, you are in the market segment with good service potential.

A service should be treated as a product as well. You need to package that as a solution, as a product, because our way of doing is not putting the customer in a corner and say: You need to buy everything from me. You need to... You should create value. And I think our service divisions are quite engaged to create value for our customers. I think that is also important. To be global, we always want to be to have products where we can be global. Very important. Diversified customer base, I think I have discussed, that brings resilience. We want to go to the market with different brands, because you can offer different value propositions. Companies are different. People design, deciding within the companies are also different, and sometimes they don't like one value proposition.

To maximize market share, we go to the market with different brands. Resilience, I have talked. I also discussed about our decentralized model. Asset light, that's your topic. Peter, you come back. Operational excellence, here I would like to stop, because I think it's a very important one, and in Atlas Copco, operational excellence is the balance between efficiency and also customer satisfaction. You—if you wait all the way to efficiency and customers are not happy, this is not good. The other way around, you could end up with a higher cost. I think you need to have the right balance. And this afternoon, during the tour, we will give you one another example on operational excellence. Speed and agility, we have discussed about that, but nothing happens if we don't have the right people. So people is a crucial element.

Again, we discussed about how we try to talk about the culture. We also have an extensive program to train the people. But passion, sometimes it's very difficult to create passion. We have to be very good to hire the right people. I think recruitment is very important, and Cecilia is there. She's the Head of HR, and we have been working quite a lot on that. And we have to do that in a good way. We have to respect the environment, we have to respect society, we have to respect the challenge we have ahead, we have ahead of us. So we need to be, as well, following that, sometimes a requirement, but not only requirement, it's something that we believe that's the right way to work.

So another element of our strategy, and I think we have invested a lot, is to increase the potential of our existing products. What is the best example that I could use? If you consider Industrial Technique, in the past, they used to sell tools, hand tools to support production, to make tightening, to whatever. Then they come with the electrification wave, and a tool that costing, I don't know, maybe 1000. If you have electrical tool, control panel, quality control, it goes maybe to another price level that sometimes 10 x higher, 20 x higher. That was one journey. But then they have invested further, because you can also now automate the use of the tool. Instead of having a person, you have an automation doing, and then you grow the revenue quite nicely.

With the same focus product, you expand your position, and you can only do that if you invest in R&D, and that's what we have been doing, trying to expand our core markets. I think this example from ITB-AA is a good way, because in those projects, to be profitable, you have to standardize. To standardize is a big effort. We have been working quite a lot on that. Another area that we have been working is to find new addressable market, and I think this picture is not 100% new. If we take Compressor Technique, we add filtration, chillers, low pressure, gas, industrial gas, high pressure, and gas and steam compression. That we do for quite some times, but we see an increasing potential in that area, because you can recompress the steam, avoiding burning gas. It's an opportunity for the future.

Vacuum Technique, they added cryogenic pumps, process diagnostics, liquid ring pumps, like I mentioned, gas vapor delivery systems, and lately, valves for the semiconductor market. The same has happened with Industrial Technique. They added electronic dispensing, machine vision, in-line quality control. In Power Technique, you will see today as well, surface pump was there for some times. We added a few years ago with steam rental. Industrial pump is becoming very relevant for them, and we'll talk about. And now, chiller rental. So we introduce a new addressable market with quite good potential for the future, creating room for further growth and fulfill our mission. We do that inorganically, and also we do organically, but also inorganically, as you, as you have seen over the last seven years... we have bought more than 100 companies.

Compressor Technique was more than 60 companies. But we don't want to buy because we have the financial power to do so. We want to buy first because it's part of our strategy. I think here, I would like to highlight, before we do an acquisition, we need to have a strategy. If it's part of our strategy, we are interested. Then we go, and we look for market segments. If you look back to the acquisitions we have done in the past, I think you see where the markets that we are trying or sometimes we have definitely decided to be there. Sometimes we need more knowledge, as well, and we acquired companies that can have some growth potential aligned with our strategy. I think that is very important.

Another point that is important is our presence, and there are presence in different ways. We have our local people, so we have people in 70 countries, but we also have distributors. So we have thousands of distributors worldwide supporting us, and I think that is also important part of our strategy. We want to go direct to the market with our own people, but we also, to maximize market share, we need to have partners, and we are very active on that. And I see that we... I get questions sometimes, "You buy quite a lot of distributors," maybe 10 per year, sometimes 20. But if you look that we have thousands of distributors worldwide, I think that is not—the strategy is not replaced direct by indirect by direct. The strategy is to grow, to be present in the market.

If I need more dealers, we will have more dealers. If we need more sales people, we will deploy more sales people. And we also, to maximize our presence, we use different brands. I think that is important because we also have different value proposition with different brands, and that maximize as well our presence. And last but not least, one thing that is becoming very important lately is the digital presence. We have to be number one in the digital space as well, and I think we have done very good steps in that direction. But so now, of course, we talk about all these, are you gonna change the target? No, we are committed to our 8% average growth per year over the business cycle, with a high Return on capital employed and the dividend promise that we have.

But we also want to do that in the right way. We have those financial targets over there, but here we also have 18 non-financial targets that is spread all over the world. In the same way you saw this P&L, responsibility, accountability, our entities, they also have these targets here. We really take this serious. It's not that we put the target at group level and group no. No, this is cascades down to the organization, and those 18 targets is also very important and present more and more in our day-to-day life. So with that, I would like to finish my part, and I will welcome now Peter Kinnart, and I have worked, this is the fourth time that I worked with Peter Kinnart. So welcome, Peter.

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

Thank you, Vagner, for that introduction. I managed to escape him once, but he caught up with me again. But I'm really delighted to team up with Vagner, together with all of my colleagues, to support him on his fantastic new mission, and of course, to continue to try to make sure Atlas Copco delivers the sustainable, lasting results we have delivered over the past many years. Now, Vagner just illustrated briefly the group targets, and I unfortunately have a very boring message for you: nothing will change, in this section at least. And I hope you agree with me that boring can be fantastic, too.

If I focus just on the three core financial targets now, then starting with the long-term growth, the 8% on average over a business cycle per year, then I would say this slide illustrates how we have managed to deliver consistently over the last 10 years at least. Of course, you can see that over time it has been fluctuating a little bit from time to time, but overall, in the end, we've delivered even slightly more over those 10 years than our target that we have consistently kept over a long period of time. And we intend to continue to do so going forward. And I hope with the products and all the things that we will show today, and the presentations of Philippe and Andrew-...

We will also be able to give you a bit of confidence that there's a lot of things going on in the pipeline that will actually make sure that this is possible to happen. Then, of course, from the growth target, from the revenues, we go down to the profitability. And also here, we have gone through quite an interesting journey over these 10 years. One remark is maybe that the small gray part on top is the financial net. It doesn't seem to be so important. It, I think, has been fairly well managed over the last many years. What is really important is that the bulk of this profitability comes completely from the operations, and actually, that part has actually even grown from 72% to 76% over time.

Then, of course, when we combine the revenue growth, the profitability that is derived from that with our balance sheet, then we end up with the return on capital employed. There we continue to believe that we should deliver a sustainable, strong return on capital employed. That, I think, has also been demonstrated over the years that that has been possible, and that is mostly due to the fact that we have this decentralized business model that allows businesses to drive their strategies really with a lot of focus, as Vagner explained, into those different markets, together with the teams. The person that is closest to the problem is expected to also solve the problem and take ownership. That is why we are able to to deliver this capital, this strong return on capital employed.

It's also, I would say, a testimony of our agility and the resilience. And agile and resilient, this is, by the way, a picture out of this famous book that Vagner has shown you as well, indicates that we are trying to make sure that we are able to respond very, very quickly. And again, the decentralized model is absolutely key to that ability. If we were to be central and everything for this big organization should be decided by a few people at the top, it would take a long time. And then we have this lean organization, where presidents are talking directly to the general managers in the markets, so decisions can be taken fast. That's agility. On top of that, we have the resilience, and of course, there's a number of different components to it.

On the one hand, there is the fact that we have the service business, which continues to grow even sometimes when markets are a little bit down. That's a very important aspect. But both in agility and resilience, the fact that we have 75% of our cost of goods sold outsourced to sub-suppliers makes, of course, that when business goes down, we automatically adjust the cost of goods sold to that particular situation. And that, of course, creates not only agility, very immediate response you could say, but also a resilience over a longer period of time. And very often, when we go through a hard time, and we take all these measures to, let's say, adjust the size of the suit to the size of the body, we also come out stronger out of a crisis.

Then we are able to take a next step in our growth journey. Then, of course, cash generation. Profitability has been growing quite steadily over the many years, thanks to basically the organic and acquired growth that we have been able to deliver. That is absolutely the key formula to get to this operational profit growth as well. But sometimes it has not been possible due to all kinds of market circumstances that we needed to adjust to, to deliver maybe a higher profitability than the year before. But if that has happened, we've at least been able to increase the cash and grow the cash flow. So we have always been able to either grow profitability or grow cash, or even together in many, many cases.

And at the same time, we also see that when we look at the investments that we are making, even though we have actually increased them quite significantly, specifically over the last two years, and we've talked many times about that in different conferences we've had, and also, of course, in our earnings calls. The level of investments that we need to make to increase the possibilities, to increase capacity, to be ready for, hopefully, an upswing in different markets, have been actually quite almost insignificant, I would say, compared to the cash we generate and compared to the profitability we have. So that, I think, is also, again, pointing back a little bit to our lean balance sheet and our lean operating model. And that's also shown here. We have indeed seen some increased investments.

We talked a lot about capacity investments in the United States, in Europe as well, but also in China and South Korea, et cetera. Mostly in Vacuum Technique, but also very big investments made in, Compressor Technique and into the other business areas. And if I look at the current investments, I would say we see quite a fair split across all the business areas. So we continue to invest across all of them, but it has basically no impact on, the relative proportion of our investments compared to the size of our revenues, for example. And also, in the working capital sector, we see a fairly stable corridor in which we operate. We have been struggling a little bit with inventories a while ago. Today, we have more or less stabilized that. We are still aiming to bring that down further.

On the receivables, of course, we have been selling more, we have been invoicing more, we have had record quarter after record quarter. So obviously that part of the working capital has been going up, but without any significant or without any increase, I would say, even in risk in terms of collectibility of those, customer invoices. And also, also on the payables, we've had, a couple of challenges, but in spite of all of that we are operating within this 10%-15% corridor, quite stable around 12.5% here on the graph. So I think, again, it is a testimony of the lean balance sheet that we continue to have across the operation.

And of course, ultimately, we talk about shareholder return, and if we are generating good growth, which is an absolute key factor in our strategy, combined with solid profitability and a lean balance sheet, we are also able to hopefully satisfy our shareholders. And I think if I look at the history, of course, I think the main message here is we've been growing consistently the dividend over the years without any exception, every single year. The only glitch in this graph is actually not a real glitch because it is related to the carve-out of Epiroc, and then we became a whole lot smaller all of a sudden, and still more or less delivered a close to similar dividend in that same year. And ever after, we've been continuing to grow the dividend. So we live up to our promises, I would say.

And of course, the past is never a guarantee for the future, but I hope at least with the track record that we are showing across these three main financial targets, we are able to give you sufficient trust and confidence in the fact that with a very solid strategy that has been consistent over many, many years, we will be able to continue to deliver similar results as we have had over the past decade or so. And with that, I conclude the very boring part of the presentation, saying that nothing has changed on the financial strategy and on the financial targets, and we aim, of course, to continue to deliver on those targets for our customers. And if we drive customer value up, we believe that we will drive shareholder value up just as much.

With that, I conclude my part, and I hand back to Vagner for some summarizing conclusions.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Thank you, Peter. So to summarize this event, our presentation, my presentation together with Peter, so I think we should remember a couple of things from this presentation. First, we have a diverse business model, which focus in several market segments, several niche markets. We also want to be market leaders in these segments with our focus on innovation and sustainability. That is becoming more and more important in many dimensions. In the dimensions, the way we want to design and manufacture our product, but also in the dimension that we can develop technology to support society in the, in their challenges. We want to be in businesses that has a strong service offer, and again, I would like to highlight, service for us is like a product. You need to package very well, and you need to create customer value to be able to be sustainable.

Otherwise, you have the customer in a corner. I think that's not a good way to do service, to offer service solution. To have a service offer, I think it's very important. Peter has talked about asset-light operations and variable cost structure, and the way we try to really go deep and look into the details, not ourselves, but we create, we give the platform that people can really take ownership and focus on their own result. But all that, a good strategy, is nothing if we don't have the right people. And I normally like to say: strategy is key, but great result only comes when you master execution. To master execution, we need to have the right people on board. So with that, I conclude my presentation. Thank you very much.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Thank you, Vagner. Before the break, the very short break, there is one more presentation, and that will be all about Power Technique. Welcome up on stage, Andrew Walker.

Andrew Walker
President of the Power Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Morning, everyone. It's a pleasure to be here. My name is Andrew Walker, President of the Power Technique business area, and I'd like to give you some insight and some view on, on Power Tech's needs, Power Technique's results and the strategy for our business. Similar to my colleagues, I'd like to give you a couple of facts, market trends, some insight into our business fundamentals, talk a little bit about strategy for growth, how we're going to grow in the future, and how we've grown so far. And then two slides about our contribution to low-carbon society, and then finally, a summary slide, if that's okay for you. Great. So talking about the fundamentals of the Power Technique business, first of all, there's a couple of market trends going on in our business.

And of course, we are quite focused on the construction sector, and you see in the construction sector there's this move towards electrification, and it's more prevalent in Northern Europe and California, but we see it happening. So we see a switch from diesel, which is a big part of our product portfolio, to electric and battery, and that's happening today. And these products we hadn't got five years ago, and we have them now. Reducing CO2 and emissions on site is becoming more prevalent, and we see our customers are demanding that. And a lot of our customers are switching their products from diesel to electrification, batteries, et cetera. The interesting thing about that is, I believe it creates more business opportunities for us, and I'll give you an example.

If we talk about generators, for instance, you know, the barriers to entry to build a generator are quite low. But if you want to build a hybrid generator with battery and diesel power combined, that's a different or it's a different challenge, and I think that creates an opportunity for us because we're able to do that. So, you know, it creates higher barriers for entry, and therefore, I think we have a better opportunity in that space. And then there's continuous infrastructure investment. You know, we have the U.S., the USA bill, still hasn't fully kicked in yet. We haven't seen all the benefits of that. We see added infrastructure investment in Northern Europe, in Germany, in France, and I think that will continue in the next two or three years.

And then when we talk about local for local, for us in Power Technique, this has two facets, local for local. First of all, we want to be local with our customers. We have global designs, but there are always nuances, and there are always changes based on the specification and engine legislation in the different countries. So hence, we have different products in different countries, and the core product is the same, but we have a different engine. In USA, we have a John Deere engine, in Europe, we have a European engine. So that, that's the difference for us, and hence we have a factory in North Carolina, in Rock Hill. We have a couple of factories in Europe. We have a factory in China, Brazil, so we need to be local for local.

The other aspect of local for local is in the supply chain. We discovered, unfortunately, during COVID, that some of our supply chains were much too long, and if you are shipping, for instance, from India to Rock Hill, and you have a challenge in logistics, then you're gonna have some longer lead times and some problems. And that we've tried to address since COVID, 'cause we really suffered on our lead times during that period. So that's another aspect, and we've worked very hard to move away from single-source suppliers and also to shorten our supply chain. So that's a very important aspect of local for local for our business area.

And then if I talk a little about a little bit about results in the business cycle, we succeeded to, you know, almost double our turnover, our orders received in the period. We've also managed to increase our EBITDA profitability by four-five points. And I can assure you, as a leader of an organization, it's a much happier place to be if you can deliver those results, and, you know, it's quite enjoyable at times. And, you know, also, our return on capital employed has been quite steady, even though we had some quite heavy investments during that period. So I think it's safe to say it has been a good period for Power Technique over the last cycle, let's say. Good.

Then, let's have a look at how we function, how our business functions around the world. And if I work, let's say, from your left to right and talk about... First of all, to say we are not one third, one third, one third. We are a little bit different, you will see, from our colleagues. We are not as active or as present in Asia as we would like to be, and there's a couple of reasons for that I come back to. But 36% of our business is in the Americas, 41%, we're a bit European-centric, 41% of our business in Europe and EMEA, and 23% is in Asia, Australasia. And that's gone up in the last couple of years because we bought a couple of companies in Oceania, in Australia.

I've just been there last month. We are now the biggest business area in Australia. I'm happy to say, so it means I will spend a bit more time in Australia than I have done in the past. But coming back to North America, you see that, compared to the last quarter, our business dropped some 40%, and I'm not concerned about that. We had a huge order intake this time last year, the first quarter last year, and that was driven a little bit, we have to confess, by forward ordering. Our lead times were a little bit too long. So I would say, and I think Vagner alluded to it, we had a very solid first quarter. Very pleased with the result in North America.

Even though compared to the result last year, it looks a little bit weaker, I'm not concerned about that. Brazil, South America, has been very strong for us over the last couple of years, and you see it continues to do so. Europe, little bit weaker, 13% growth. There is some acquisition effect for sure in there with the new acquisitions we made. Also, good solid business in EMEA. And then, if we look to Asia, we have an acquisition effect, especially in Oceania there, in that business, in the first quarter, for sure. And the interesting thing is India, for us, that has been rather weak over the last couple of years, is now coming back, and China is solid. So, Asia is developing for us.

So that's a little bit an overview geographically of how our business is developing. And you know, when you think about Power Technique, you probably think construction, but in fact, only 30% of our business is focused on the construction sector. You see, almost 46% is in the process industry and manufacturing industry, and that's due to our rental business and this pivot away, that I'll come back to, with our the newer businesses that we've bought in the pump business, so we are certainly doubling down a bit more on manufacturing and process industries. And that's part of our strategy to be less reliant on the construction sector. It's a very important sector for us, for sure, especially for the two equipment divisions in Power and Flow and in Portable Air.

But you see, it's not as prevalent for us as perhaps it has been in the past. So that's a change in our structure, if you wish, and then there's others, like events and environmental space as well. So coming to the Power Technique product portfolio and let's say our focus areas, we start on the left here with Portable Air. Portable air is really a core business for us in Power Technique. We are clear number one in Portable Air business. The interesting thing about the Portable Air division is we are everywhere. We are a global player, and most of our competitors are regional. So there are very few global players in the Portable Air space, and that allows us to develop a very nice business.

And our core components are the same, but as I said earlier, we have different, different products in different markets, and we have different factories in each of the markets. But very strong business development, mainly an organic play. We don't do so much acquisitions in this space, although we're working on it, but there's been an organic play, and we're quite strong here. Yeah, I would say probably our strongest division. Then portable power and portable flow. We are not number one in portable power. We're a good number two in most regions. The interesting thing about portable power becomes, I alluded to it earlier, it becomes more interesting now because we pivot away from pure generators to energy storage, hybrid power, solar.

It's becoming a much more interesting space than it was perhaps in the past, and it's quite exciting, really, the things that are going on. If you think about it, we didn't have energy storage five years ago, and now if I talk to my guys in the field, in this space, maybe 50% of their quotations are in energy storage or in batteries. So it's becoming, especially in North America and parts of Northern Europe, very prevalent. And then there's portable flow, the other leg of this stool, so to speak. This emerged from an acquisition we did a couple of years ago in 2016, Varisco. We started building surface pumps or diesel-powered pumps, and now we have a fantastic portfolio of pumps. It's a really interesting, significant business for us now.

And the interesting thing about portable flow is the segment or the sector is as big as Portable Air. We're just not, we are just not as big in it yet. So I think it's a nice runway of opportunities in portable flow for the future. And lately, we started developing electric pumps, so portable electric pumps as an adjunct to our portable diesel pumps. So very interesting space. You may recall, we just bought a company called Sykes, also in the portable flow space, and so becoming increasingly important for us. Then the service, our service division, I think, we always say that, you know, service is really a backbone for Atlas Copco. We have a service division in each of our business areas. We are no different. We are very focused on service. I love service myself.

I was also president of the service division a couple of years ago. I like it, and I think it's, you know, a really important generator of income for us. We treat it as a business, and I think because we're focused on it, we really, you know, do well. We really double down on how we do service business, and that's the purpose of having a separate division. Then if we talk about other parts of our product portfolio, Specialty Rental, and it is rather special, Specialty Rental. There is no other division in the group that does rental. And when you look at the Specialty Rental division, they are renting products to our customers. The backbone of Specialty Rental is portable, oil-free compressors, and that's how we started.

But I'll show you a little bit later that we're pivoting away, and we're less reliant on oil-free compressed air than we were in the past. Very nice business, good profit in this area, and growing nicely. I come back to that later. Then last but not least, the last pillar is, and the newest one, is Industrial Flow. Perhaps you know, we have been studying the pump business for more than a decade in Atlas Copco. We have been looking at the flow business, and we've been wanting to step in for some time, and we bought a small company a couple of years ago called Varisco, which had an Industrial Flow business.

From that small beginnings, we have been looking, we have been studying, we have been looking at companies, and in the last 2-3 years, we bought a couple of companies, and I come back to that later. I think really interesting segment, Industrial Flow. We think it's close to our core. We think... We're not experts in industrial pumps, for sure, yet. But, you know, it's rotating equipment, has good service. Some of the customers are similar or common, and we think we can develop this further. We've taken a step in this space. I come back to that later. So if we come back to the strategy for growth and what are our focus and our priorities, I use the same slide that Vagner used. You know, how do we do more in the core?

We want to have, you know, increased business and look for more runways for opportunities to grow. And in Portable Air, it's definitely an organic play, you know. We have dedicated people. We're number one. We keep innovating. We're designing new products. You know, every quarter, we release new products. We go for innovation, we go for efficiency, not so much acquisition or organic growth in that space. Portable Power and Flow, I mentioned that, we have dedicated people now on Flow. We have dedicated people on Power. We have done some acquisitions. I think there's some runway for more growth in that space. For sure, we're gonna go for inorganic growth as well in that space, and we are growing our product portfolio.

I was in Las Vegas at a fair last year, looking at the portable flow competitors, and I said, I was looking at our, our, the newly developed product and said, "Yeah, we can compete in this space for sure, in portable flow." And then Industrial Flow, I mentioned, at the moment, we're developing a parallel set of customer centers for Industrial Flow, 'cause it's a little bit different, the Industrial Flow space, from our, our space, our customer centers today, and we have a parallel group of team. In fact, they're meeting this week in France to discuss strategy and how they will sell our portfolio of pump products. And then Service, you know, it's about installed base management, how we manage our installed base. We are connected, we are tracking, we are developing service products.

We are doing all of the good things that we do in all business areas. The interesting thing is, you know, we can lift up some of the things we do in Portable Air, and we drop it into Portable Flow, and we will drop it into Industrial Flow. Then Specialty Rental, you know, it is about organic growth. There are plenty of applications out there increasing. We will increase our geographic penetration in Specialty Rental. We are not as prevalent in rental in Asia as we would like to be. There isn't as much of a rental mentality in Asia as in other regions, but it's coming. For instance, we opened a new depot in India, so this is seed capital that we are investing in. We have done it in China.

Very small depots, but they will grow, and over time, as the rental mentality develops in Asia, we will grow our Specialty Rental business in that, in that region. You know, one of the things Vagner talked about was innovation, and we do a webinar every quarter for all our people, and every quarter, we talk about the new innovations. It's amazing. We are presenting new products from our product companies every quarter, without fail. And we have some, you know, 46 new products last year, and that could be a complete product line, just, not just a product. It can be a product range, and this we do continuously.

I think it's interesting for some of the newly acquired companies that we just bought, they are surprised at this quest for innovation, redesign that Atlas Copco has, and that we will try to instill in our new acquisitions in the coming years. I mentioned battery storage as a key component of our Portable Power pillar. You know, energy storage, lots of our customers are looking for it. I come back to the microgrid. You will see it in our innovation station today. We've built a small microgrid for you to look at, a very interesting space. PTE VSD 900, an electric oil-free compressor. In the past, we were known for renting diesel power. Now, we have an electric range. Very interesting for our customers who want to save on carbon.

Electric surface pumps, I mentioned already, the switch to pivot from diesel pumps to electric surface pumps. You know, we have solar light towers. We also have hybrid light towers. Small part of our range, but it's there, battery-powered and diesel-powered together. Very interesting for our customers. We developed an eight-ton steam boiler for our rental business. First eight-ton steam boiler that can be used throughout the world, so we can ship it from U.S. to Europe, do rental in different parts of the world. Very important, 'cause it's quite a capital investment that we make in our steam business, and I come back to steam rental in a moment. Then the normal stuff in Portable Air, where we make, you know, a smaller, more efficient, more powerful air compressor for drilling.

It goes from a four-wheeler to a two-wheeler because that's what our customers want. Selling very nicely, and that's just normal innovation and the normal stuff that we do in our Portable Air division. So continuous innovation, we keep trying. There's always a better way, we say, and it's in our DNA, I think, to keep innovating, and we spend a lot of time and effort on that. And I will not, I will not show it, but you will see today the first battery-powered portable screw compressor in the world. We launched it last year. We're the first. Very nice battery-powered portable screw compressor.

One of the things we discovered through our connectivity is that the average usage of this unit is less than two hours a day on site, so it's perfect for battery-driven, and you'll see that today. I will not show it right now. I keep it as a surprise for you. So then, if we talk about extending our core, and I use the same format, in Portable Air, I said it's mainly an organic play, but we are looking at Portable Air treatment as an adjunct to Portable Air, and we are looking at nitrogen, portable nitrogen. More and more sites are using nitrogen. The cost of shipping nitrogen is very expensive....

We're developing a portable nitrogen station so that we can connect it to our portable compressors, and we can deliver nitrogen to our customers. In portable Power and Flow, we already have surface pumps or diesel pumps. We have battery storage. We'll continue to invest in further ranges of battery storage. We have solar, and we will develop further in the portable flow side. On the Industrial Flow, we have a couple of technologies already. We have gear pumps, we have progressive cavity pumps, we have screw pumps, we have metering pumps. We would like to broaden our portfolio of technologies on the pump side. One of our goals was to do a roll-up.

We're sort of not halfway through that process, but we're in that roll-up phase now, and I would like to add a few more technologies. And we create a portfolio of technologies of positive displacement pumps. And then service, you know, we have been very focused on Portable Air service, but now we will do battery storage service and flow service, so, you know, changing out pump heads, servicing and supplying spare parts for portable flow. We will do it in the same way as we did Portable Air. So the interesting thing is that it flows down, sorry about the pun, into service, and you have, you know, it goes from Portable Air, portable flow, portable power into the service division. And then finally, steam rental, a nice runway of opportunities. Couple of years ago, we took a step into steam rental.

It's now a significant business. We're probably the biggest steam rental company globally. There's a lot of regional players, but globally, we're probably the biggest one. It's a very nice business, very special. It needs a lot of support. Steam engineers are not easy to find. We have stepped into flow rental. You may have seen we bought a company in Australia, NPE, so we have a significant business now in rental of pumps, and we do also some treatment, some water treatment, because you cannot just take water out of the ground or out of a site and pump it and put it in a drain. You have to treat it. We are learning. So we are learning about water treatment. And then we took a small step into industrial cooling.

Last month, we bought a small company in Belgium. Very nice business. It's our first step... Actually, it's our second step. We had a much smaller one in Spain. It's our second step into industrial cooling, and this, we will do some more. So industrial cooling rental, I think, is another quite interesting step out for this, the rental team. So you see, we continue to extend our core, and I, I think most of these businesses are quite adjacent to what we do today, and I think, I, I, I think there's never been a more interesting time to be in Power Technique than right now, with all of these step outs that we're working on, today. And talking about that, what about Industrial Flow? Well, we see further growth in our Industrial Flow business.

You know, this is a very interesting space, the environmental space, the process industry, the food industry, and you see the different brands we have bought so far. I mentioned Varisco in the early stages, in 2016. We bought LEWA, a metering pump business in Germany. As a bonus, we got a packager called Geveke as part of that deal, so very nice packaging company in Amsterdam, actually. We also bought Wangen, a progressive cavity pump company, mainly focused in Germany on the biogas industry, not really working outside of Germany so much, so fantastic opportunity for us to expand globally their business, because they didn't have that, let's say, muscle to do that.

And then the last one, we just closed it last quarter, is KRACHT, a really interesting gear pump business, also, based in Germany. Very nice product range, small gear pumps for OEMs and for different industrial applications. Again, not so what I see, not so sales and marketing focused, so I think we can bring that, expertise to them. They're very nice products. And as I mentioned, you know, we're building this suite of, of, technologies. There's a couple more I would like to add, we would like to add. And then there's an opportunity to go deeper into the, the segments as well. And, and the reason we, we focused on positive displacement pumps is because we think that is the most interesting space in the pump sector for now. It's higher than average profitability.

It's quite fragmented, the business, globally, and we think we can do more in that space. So we would like to go wider in the technologies, and we would like... If I take LEWA as an example, LEWA is in the metering pump and the process pump industry, but they're right on the top end of the segment, really high spec, high efficiency pumps. But there's a whole plethora of, let's say, opportunities in lower spec, plastic metering pumps, for instance, and we would like to go deeper in that vertical, with LEWA assisting us, of course, 'cause now we have a team of guys who understand this business definitely much better than I do. So, and so that's our intention.

So now, let's have a look at a short video about these couple of companies. Always good to see a bit about them.

Speaker 19

Our solutions and services are the cornerstone of many industries and sectors.... Our ideas and technology empower our customers to grow and drive society forward. Even if we go unnoticed, we are present, there for you when you need us. That is how we transform the future. We take on a new challenge to unleash our full potential in the industrial pump business. With a clear differentiation in technology and application knowledge, these pumps are critical to customer operations under the highest efficiency standards. They offer a healthy return on investment versus competitive offerings and strong aftermarket business potential, setting a clear pathway for sustainable, profitable growth. In 2016, we started our journey in the Industrial Flow segment with Varisco. During 2022, Wangen, LEWA, and Geveke joined this exciting venture, and most recently, KRACHT was welcomed to the Atlas Copco Group.

Individually, these brands hold a fruitful and rewarding track in their respective fields of action. Together, we have a unique opportunity to become market leaders in targeted verticals by leveraging our technology and expertise.

Andrew Walker
President of the Power Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Great. I love those product company videos, don't you? The problem is they become dated almost as soon as you, you know, produce them, so in a couple of months, it will be out of date, but great. Maybe I could jump to service now, and service in its broadest context, because we have basically, we have two service divisions. We have our Specialty Rental and our pure service division. You see, if... And they, they've been developing very nicely, as you see. And if you consider equipment has a CAGR of 9%, well, our two service divisions together have, yeah, considerably more, 13%, and, and it's around 42% of our total business, and which is significant, because Specialty Rental is quite significant in our business also.

So nice growth, nice development, and also it's very nice profitability in these businesses. It makes a good contribution to our, our overall result. And if I double down on service for a moment, and I think, as I said, it's really in the core, in the backbone of Atlas Copco to do service in a good way. And if I go from right to left, I think we master logistics through our distribution centers. The interesting thing as a business area president is I don't spend any time on logistics for spare parts at all. We have the distribution centers. They do their thing. They're very professional. We have a board meeting once a quarter, and they do it, and, you know, we deliver every day, next-day spare parts to our customers, and we're quite good at it.

And the interesting thing about having dedicated service teams is they only focus on service. They're not focused on equipment. They're not discussing market share. They're not discussing how to sell equipment. They're focused on service products, how to deliver spare parts, you know, how do we perform? And I think that's one of the key success factors, if you wish, of our service operations, is we focus on that, and those guys, those people, they just do that. And I think Vagner mentioned earlier, we treat it as a business. You know, it's very rewarding if you do it well, and we have dedicated service offers. You know, we offer service contracts for portable equipment.

The interesting thing, I think, if we look at the acquisitions, they're a little bit more underdeveloped than we are. It'll be interesting to bring some of our processes, the way we do things, to the acquisitions, from a service perspective. Then we're very proactive on the installed base. You know, we have connectivity. We're connected, and especially for us, as a former service guy, you know, knowing where your equipment is and when it needs service is... I know it sounds basic, but for us, especially with portable equipment, it's really essential, and it gives us this opportunity to do more business. Then, you know, talking about Specialty Rental, rental is, it's a whole business within a business. It has everything. It's really interesting business. You know, they do engineering.

They do project management. They do sales. They have their own service team. They have their own operators, and that's what makes them successful, you know, and they're all, you know, really focused on rental in that division. They have specialized fleet. We're heavily investing in the fleet. Of course, we have this unique advantage with our oil-free fleet, which we take advantage of. But I think if you looked at this picture where you have, you know, maybe 30 four-wheel, portable, oil-free compressors on one site, there's nobody else can do that like we do. And then there's lots of special applications, and I think this afternoon, you're gonna see in the innovation center, the guys are gonna talk about some of those special applications.

Very interesting, some of the specialist applications that they're doing today, and it makes it a very rewarding business for us. You know, I talked about air being, you know, the real core of Specialty Rental, has been for years, but now we developed a decent business in power. We have worked on our power, and we're pivoting towards hybrid power, so we're developing that leg of our business. We invested in a couple of businesses in pump rental, so we have quite a significant rental business in Specialty Rental. We've taken our first steps with steam a couple of years ago. As I mentioned, we have a significant business in steam rental.

A tough business to be in, but we're investing in new boilers, and it's really special. And in the last couple of months, we started investing in industrial chilling, industrial cooling. Also very nice business. I visited last month, the latest acquisition in Belgium. It's rather small still, but from small things, we grow, and we expect to continue down that space. So you see, we start to get, instead of just one leg on the Specialty Rental stool, we start to develop four. And when you do that, and when you add some legs, it gives you some accelerated growth, and that's what I see. This is a function in Specialty Rental of some of that activity.

And I say to my Specialty Rental guys, "If we can do more business at this level of margin, then it's very rewarding," and that's what we try to do. So you see the CAGR, 12% is quite reasonable. Then just switching to low-carbon society. We're in this transformation process. I bought an EV car. I don't know if many of you have an electric car, but I have one. I never thought I'd see one in my lifetime, but there you go, I have one. And the interesting thing, if we look at a site, and we made a microgrid for you, so we're gonna show you this today.

You know, the heart of the power to a site used to be the generator, which is on the left here, but now the heart of the site is battery storage, and the generator is just one other power source to battery storage. And you can supply power from the grid, you can provide power through solar. And then, you know, we already have all of these products here today: electric compressors, we are supplying cranes via battery storage, light towers, of course, electric pumps. There are more and more electric excavators and other construction equipment and a portable compressor, as I mentioned. So the site of tomorrow is changing. We already see in certain parts of the Netherlands, this is already compulsory.

You cannot bring a diesel-powered unit on site already today. So we are going to further electrify our portfolio. We're already on that journey. We're moving in that direction. I mentioned we have a full range of electric portable compressors. We have a full range of electric pumps. We have now our first battery-driven pump. Maybe we'll have a battery-driven, sorry, a battery-driven compressor. Maybe we'll have a battery-driven pump very soon. We're, you know, we always continue to innovate on energy efficiency. Digitalization is part of our DNA. We're very, you know, efficient in our logistics. We even have a couple of battery-powered trucks now supplying some of our distribution centers. You know, we try to have a lower energy footprint in our operations.

Most of our factories now today have solar panels. There's not a huge payback. The return is quite long. We wouldn't have done this maybe 10 years ago, but we do it. All of our factories have solar panels on their roof, so you will see that we're using green energy in all our factories today. These things perhaps we wouldn't have done a number of years ago. But we want to contribute to the low-carbon society. So in summary, let me say, I hope you see the interesting aspect of these four pillars. As I said, there's never been a more interesting time to be in the business area. We see more opportunities in Portable Air, in portable power, in portable flow. We've done this step out into Industrial Flow. It's a very interesting space.

You know, we're working on the continuous development of our, of our core business. We are going to grow organically, these, these parts of the business, but also inorganically in the selected spaces I mentioned. There is increased service potential, especially through our acquisitions. And I think, you know, we will go for further strategic acquisitions. We're busy with it. It's not always visible, but we are very busy, and we will look for more. So thank you very much. That ends my presentation.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Thank you, Andrew. I don't know if you reckon, but you have some candy on your table. It's, it's these gummy bears, and they wouldn't be possible unless we would-

Andrew Walker
President of the Power Technique, Atlas Copco Group

We're pumping that stuff with-

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Your product-

Andrew Walker
President of the Power Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Yes.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

is pumping that stuff. Very good. Okay, we're gonna have a short break before our last presentation. Those of you who have any changes in your departure, please contact the registration desks. Those of you who haven't checked out, please do so, and all of you, please be back at 10:35 A.M. We will start again at 10:35 A.M. Those of you on the web, 10:35 A.M. Coffee is served.

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Good morning, everyone, and maybe, yeah, to present myself, I joined Atlas Copco in 1995, and I was previously, up to two weeks ago, the president of the Oil-free Air division, and before that, I was in charge for the Airtec division. So I want to also follow the same agenda that Andrew has followed, so a bit about the market and where we are, and I think why we believe that there is a very important future for Compressor Technique. Then our strategy, how we want to go further. Then, I think very important for Compressor Technique is our contribution potential in the low carbon economy for the future. We really believe that we have a big role to play there, and I will try to illustrate that, and then I will come to a close summary.

So maybe starting with the, the fundamentals and where we believe the market will, will really help us to grow and, and where we have big regular role to, to play. I think there is definitely a big need for improving efficiency of all of the utility room in our customer base. And we have, with our solution, a very big role to play on that. And, and I will also try during the, the morning, but also this afternoon, you will see during, during the visit, that we develop a lot of solution to optimize our compressors. But there is much more around compressor, and I think I will also talk a bit on energy recovery and the role that has to play on CO2 reduction into the utility room of our compressors, of our customers.

Then, I think also important, and play a, a nice role as for the last year, and we're convinced that it will continue to play a very important role in the future. There is a lot of investment into what we call the green economy, into battery business, into a solar panel, into electronics, and we have also there, a, a very nice role to play. Then I think as Atlas Copco, and, and that's really one thing that we really try to do maybe better than others, we want to have the, the best total solution in a, in a global way. What I mean, we believe really that end of the year, when the, the total kilowatt are coming out of the utility room, we want to prove that we were there the best.

It's not only just a number when we publish, we really want to prove that the total solution end of the year has the best life cycle cost. That's coming from our machines, but also a lot coming from the way we do service and support our customer there. A very important trend for Compressor Technique is also everything related to data. Compressors become more and more complex. We will also show you that, it's not just a mechanical drivetrain, there is a lot of electronics, a lot of data, and a lot of regulation in a compressor coming on board. But again, here, it's not only compressors. We have a total solution, and a total solution generate a lot of data, but also require a lot of optimization.

That we can, with our data-driven approach, we can really contribute and help a lot of our customer to have the best solution. And then last but not least, there is also a lot of new application for compressors, and we want to play a role on that. There is other gases than air becoming more and more important, and also there we have a big role to play. So, when we look a bit on our order intake and orders quarter one compared to quarter one last year, and I went a bit fast, but last year was, as Vagner mentioned, was extremely strong for Compressor Technique also. I think we also delivered a good quarter one this year.

Of course, there were a few very big orders for Gas and Process that we could not fully repeat, although it was also there, I think, very solid. When we look a bit our distribution over the world, I think we have a quite solid 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 balance for Compressor Technique. So I think we have, over the years, really, realized also already a good balance. And we believe that being present all over the world is very important because different market, different needs, but also keep you sharp and keep you competitive. Some market are very price-driven, others are much more up to the efficiency, some more on the total solutions. And I think with this approach, we can really be best in class in all solution. In quarter one, I think looking for Europe was solid.

I think we had a solid Europe, with very good Middle East also. North America was, I think also for us, quite okay. The number is a little bit lower, but also last year, we had a few big project that we could not fully repeat. We have a very solid South America, with Brazil doing very well. And then in Asia, a bit mixed, mixed picture. I think, it's not a secret that also China, with a bit recalibration on the battery business, we also see a bit impact on that. But in total, I think, when we also calibrate for the big gas and propane processor project, I think, the picture was good. And also here we see also very good India and there's good development in the region.

Okay, I think I will be boring, but I want to repeat, and even for Compressor Technique, even more than for other BA, I think we are present in all industry, and we really try to keep focusing on that. We want to be in every industry in the world because it gives, as far as present, a very good resilience. But it also make that, when some segment goes up, others, we can compensate. Also, you will see that although for us, electronic and automotive are very important, they are not dominant. We have a lot of application in the processor industry. We have a lot in general manufacturing. Also, construction, there is a lot of innovation into insulation material. Cement industry require to decarbonize. Also, there's a lot of nice application coming up.

Then, when I look to product and I will also try to illustrate that we came from compressors, and I think also on compressors, we have a large all-over range of product. So we came from typically the seven-10 bar application, what we call medium pressure. And over the years, we have built a lot of new solution and go to market what we call low pressure, with the zero-four bar market, but also very high pressure. And I think the hydrogen market is demanding extremely high pressure. We did that first with the CNG compressor for natural gas, and now we use the same knowledge and technology to go also to this high pressure required by the hydrogen world.

We can't reach today as for this 1,000 bar needed into the hydrogen industry. On the other side, we also go to bigger and bigger machines, and I think we do that in the normal air application, where the electronic world request for more and more bigger installation. I think the chips industry required a lot of compressed air, and also they're demanding bigger machines, and we provide a solution. But on the other side, also the CO2 compression, also there I think a very big installation needed. And also there, with the Gas and Process solution, we can, in a very efficient way, provide technology that really make the job there to compress the CO2 to the 80-90 bar that needed there.

We try to be technology agnostic, so we really believe that we need to help our customer to select the best solution for their application. We don't defend only one solution, and we believe that we can on this being quite, I think on the lead, in the way that we can provide all, all the solution and, and we don't we can really with the customer look to the compressor solution and technology that do the best job, best job for them. From compressors, I think we have now over the last 10, 15 years, also developed a very nice journey into treatment of the air. So you know, when you compressed air, there is a humidity in air.

When you compress it, this humidity comes free, and therefore customer mostly always needs a solution to treat the air. That's the reason why we have developed a lot of different solutions to do a drying of compressed air. I will come back on that, because this technology also we will use more and more in new applications in the future. When you compress air, you also collect all the dust which is present in the air, so you need filtration. Also there, we have from designing, really understanding how filters work, and we have very good engineers also on that. We produce our filters ourselves, and I think we are quite unique also there in the compressor world, and we can then provide also the best filters to our customer, to the solution.

That humidity that we collect from the air, that condensate, you need also to release to the external world. And also there, we have developed a good solution to treat the condensate and to be able and to support our customer to release it to the outside. The fact that we are very good in air compression also allow us to build a very strong journey now into new gases. And I think a very interesting direction that we see for the future and happening now is on-site gas generation. I think we have this for the very big customer, you have this air liquefaction process. But more and more customer, and also that we have seen also during the COVID, when we...

You have a bit less demanding purity and also big transport costs to bring your gas on site. There is also very nice application for on-site gas generation. And also there, we have developed very nice technology and the building blocks to provide customer with on-site generation of nitrogen and oxygen. And this technology, we use more and more now to new gases. And I will also during the morning, but also during the afternoon, we will present you what we do into the hydrogen and CO2 world, because the same technology there is a very good base to be present into that world. When you compressed air, you create a lot of heat, you... And that compression, that heat that you generate, you need to cool.

We want to, as I said, we want to provide the total solution in the most efficient way. It's very important, we believe, not to always provide the best compression solution, but also to provide close to that compressor solution, a very efficient cooling solution, because also there, we want to minimize the number of kilowatt you need to put into that solution. That's the reason why we have also start to develop a journey to provide our customer with the most optimal cooling solution. Going from quite traditional solution, but also going then to chillers when it's needed for the efficiency of the total installation.

That brings us to the next step, that we believe that heat can generate a lot of benefit for customers, and that's the reason why we have also this energy recovery solution. So the heat from the compression can be used in a very positive way, and we also developed nice solution on that. To be able to do that, you need a very good control of the installation, and Compressor Technique is really going more from a mechanical-driven technology, very now much more to also more software and engineers for doing that, and central controllers. We have invested a lot also to develop that technology and to have that on board. I will also try to illustrate that a bit later on during the presentation.

And then last but not least, I think it becomes a very large portfolio, a lot of technology. We have been always very good and very focused on maintaining and service our compressors. With the service division, we also enlarge the scope to make sure that we can touch all these new component that we are developing and do that in a very intelligent and smart way. And that's the reason why we have the different value proposition in service with this auditing service plan. And also that I will try to explain in a simple way how it works. And this afternoon, I believe we have prepared also a nice presentation on how this connectivity lead to a very intelligent way to do service and really creating value for our customer.

So, I've prepared nine blocks that we believe are the building blocks, the cornerstone for our, for our growth. It starts from a very high focus on R&D. I think, and we have, I think from the, from history, a very good knowledge on the mechanical part, and we are now really on R&D, also investing a lot to really be part of that digital transformation. So a lot going on there. Then a building block, which is also acting more and more important, and when we visit customer, and I have the chance to do that quite often. When you connect with a bigger company, they all have a very high plan on sustainability.

So, everyone expects is expected to reduce their CO2 to be really part of, I think, this ambitious target that we have to not having a too high a heating up of the world. And I think understanding where we can help a customer is very important. And so I think a lot of focus and activities already ongoing on that, to understanding where we can help customers. And I will also try to illustrate a bit of how we can do that. Then, of course, I think the traditional thing that we need to do in Compressor Technique is to develop a very efficient compressors.

So we will definitely not stop in that, and you will see also during the visits, that there is still very nice improvement ongoing, and I think also nice performance improvement we can bring to customer in the more traditional part of our product. Then we believe that we are market leader, but we want to even be better on that. I think coverage we are not today touching 100% of the potential. So also there, with the digital tools, we are getting a lot of investment in the marketing. We believe that we can cover even better. And I think Vagner explained already that we have our customer centers, where we have the direct sales as big focus, but we do also OEM, and I think for new application, OEM are sometimes very important.

We have definitely distribution, also very important because we have different product, different value proposition. And so there, there is a very large access to the market, and managing that in the first way is very important. Then I said already, I think we want to extend the offer. We want not to just deliver the product, but we want to deliver also a very good service, and we want to do that to this adjacent product. So also there, there is a lot of knowledge that we build up to make us capable to do that. And then also something that we believe is very important, we want to do the service in the most efficient way. Our focus is that the total life cycle cost of our machines are the lowest possible. And what does it mean?

That from the development up to the service, how we do it, we want really to do it in the most efficient way. So extending the period between services for us, very important. When you do service, to do it in a very efficient way, to minimize the downtime is very important. So a lot of focus also put there, because we believe, as also Vagner mentioned, that to be very long together with our customer, is really about creating that value. And it's not doing just a service to put customer into a corner. It's really to show him that by doing that with us, he will have the best life cycle cost. So a lot of focus there. Then, I think we also learned during the COVID that, okay, our lead time have been, a bit suffer.

We had now also the chance to be supported to do nice new investment into our factories, to increase our coverage in the world, to be also very well balanced and to have also factories now, a new big one coming in China. In India, we are also investing. In Europe, you will see also today, we keep investing also, and also in North America and Brazil, we have nice investment in going. We really want to be ready for what we believe the future growth of Compressor Technique. I think Compressor Technique has a very large scope. I think a lot of innovation, a lot of new product coming, and I think also very important, we have a high demand for very well educated and passionate engineers.

So I think on that, we focus a lot. We do also a lot of direct sales, so I think a lot of investment in the 70 countries that Vagner mentioned into very strong salespeople, but also service technicians. I think these are really our touching point with customer, and I think we invest a lot to have this persons and colleagues really on the best level. And then also, we believe that we cannot develop everything fast enough organically, and that's the reason why we do also acquisition on adjacent technology in the same way as Vagner explained in the morning session.

Then, I think, to not make it too complex, I think we try to really build our future on a few platforms, and I think a first one is definitely compressors. We have been very strong in compressors for air, and we are transforming this platform and the modules and the knowledge and the technology that we have developed there, also in compressing new and other gases. And so that's, we believe, a strong base to now go to the CO2, the hydrogen, the nitrogen, oxygen to these new gases, but also to go to higher pressure, to go to lower pressure into compression. So that's an important one. A second one, and I think very promising, and compressors by definition, when you compress every air, gas, air, you create heat.

And in a way, that heat, if you can utilize that heat in a positive way, it's heat coming when you feed your compressor with green electricity, is also heat coming from a green source. And I think a lot of customers really struggle to convert their gas heated heating process to something that is not using a CO2 emission process, and compressor can play there a very nice role to provide that. So that's the reason why we also invest quite a lot in this thermal transfer, and I will explain that a bit later on more. Desiccant technology. Desiccant technology is material that allow you to absorb humidity.

For instance, that's where we started, but that same material is also allowing you to, very similar to, separate nitrogen of oxygen from compressed air, but also to remove humidity from CO2, to purify also hydrogen. So a lot of knowledge there into desiccant technology will allow us to participate into this new industries, where I think we can really provide solution who are quite unique. Then filtration. The fact that we have developed over the last 10, 20 years, also filtration capability and knowledge in-house, is also really an enable for us to also now participate into, I think, a larger scope. So we can do then also filtration for other application than the normal seven-10 bar. We can go to low pressure.

We can easily also connect to very high pressure, in the compressed air, but we can do it also for other gases. And I think every gas that you compress need filtration, and we will be able to provide also this, solution in a very efficient way in the future. Important for gas, but we are also very close in the utility room, so there is also other liquid to be filtered, and we can also connect, in that direction. And then last but not least, I think our solution become more and more, digital-based, and I think we invest a lot into software and that knowledge needed. I will touch that a bit further in a next slide.

Compressor Technique does also quite a nice journey on innovation and also Vagner under this leadership has invested a lot and support us in the division to contribute into that innovation in new product. So I think there we are really doing well on the product, but also in service, a lot is ongoing. So we also innovate not only in product, but also how we do a service, and that's the reason why we have this connectivity on board of the machine, and we have now more solutions linked to that and leading to this optimization of our solution. And then the digital journey is maybe you see most of the time the digital journey on the service side, because we talk a lot on SMARTLINK, and we will talk more today also on that.

But that digital journey is a full part of our development journey, and I believe that the fact that we have in Compressor Technique, a very long history in developing compressors and these different building blocks, and doing it in a very, model-based way, is also today, a very good enable to make it the digital transformation. Also, I think, better than a company who will just based on, on data they collect. We have, I think, a very good col, collection of data, but we have also very strong model coming from our, from our research laboratory. And putting the thing together make that we can really make also into that digital journey, really the difference. And then to illustrate a bit this innovation, I will, select a few one.

I don't want to go too much on that because you will also see that more in the afternoon. But the first one is a small oil-injected compressor, and Steph, this afternoon, our VP Marketing and Industrial Area, will present that machine in detail. And I think you will see also that that machine is really not only just developed for having a very nice performance in a steady-state application, but really developed to be in the over the full year, running into the best operating mode. And I think that's really what's what's meaning our messages to the customers. We want to provide you solution that really end of the year will provide you the lowest energy consumption, not just in the moment, but really fully over the year.

You will also see that there is a lot of electronics, a lot of software into the machine, and that today, the mechanical part provides some performance improvement, but even more the controller, the software that we put on the machine, provide you even more, performance improvement. In the middle, you have an oil-free machine, and also the same philosophy, that's the reason why I select. And this machine is a new oil-free screw, and traditionally it was developed running on a very big mechanical gearbox, and today you have two compressor stage. And today we have every stage as its own motor, own drive, own controller. You have also the modularity and the flexibility to adapt a machine into every condition that the customer will face into a real world.

That's where we believe we really provide innovation that really matters into the real operation of a customer. The last one is an air treatment solution, drying the air, and also based on adsorption technology. That technology is very unique because nearly using zero external energy, only using the heat of the compression, you can reach a dew point of -40. I think that's a very important point because in electronics, that's the humidity level they really need in the application. We can provide that with zero energy consumption, and that's, I think, very important and also where we can create really the difference for customer. Innovation in product, very important, but also innovation in service is for us, a key.

I think, for the ones who follow us quite long, you know this service ladder also, a bit, where we have has focused to improve the machine availability, and that's really our focus. We believe that for our customer, it's super important that the machine has the highest uptime possible. And that's the reason why, okay, we do part delivery, but we have proven, and we have data, and we see more and more penetration, that a service contract is really the way for customer to improve this uptime of the machine. So that's a bit what we have done over the last 20 years, but now the last five-six years, we go more and more to the next level.

And the next level is coming from the data connectivity that we have on the machine. We can understand better and better over the year how the machine is running, and we can then bring also optimization. And this optimization can be directly into the machine, that from the remote center, we do it nearly online. But we can also, over time, eventually propose a new solution, a new machine, who can then complement the utility of the customer and make its total solution even more efficient. So that's really the direction that we go, and we believe that by doing this way, we create really value, and we can also really bring to, and that's where the graph show you from high life cycle cost to really low life cycle cost.

And that's where we believe that this model, providing more service, is also providing a lower cost for our customer. And I think therefore it's a win-win for both party. And I think we are doing that quite well. Also, we have, as Andrew present, we have also a good penetration in service, and I think you can also see that at the service trend is also nicely growing. There is always a little bit of delay. We have provided a lot of new machines to the market the last last years, and you know, you need to start up, you need to commission, so there is always a little bit of delay.

But I think the, the stability into this ratio between, prime and service is really proving that we, that we can capture also this, this new machine and new installation. We also capture very nicely at the service potential. And we want to, to keep doing that and to keep doing that even further. So I think a very important pillar is that all our machine leaving our factory are today connected from the factory. And we have learned that when you need to connect two cables into, into our customer, it's very difficult. So that's the reason why we went to this 4 and 5G connection solution on, on the machines.

This solution also allow us now to monitor more and more machine, and also to provide data to our central controller so that we can have also then leading to a more smarter service. So we can now go for more reactive to more proactive, so we can really detect where the service time is needed.

And also this afternoon, we will try to explain you a bit how we do that, and how we, based on the data and some artificial intelligence and these physical models of our machine, we can really go to the customer and say, "Mr. c ustomer, by doing a service on this moment, you will also have the lowest energy consumption in your installation, the lowest downtime, and have again here the best availability of your installation, but also the lowest energy consumption.

This is really on our machine, but there is also a lot around. We have more and more new accessory and auxiliaries. Also in utility room, very often you still have some leaks. It's a very complex network of piping and a lot of machines and history. So also there, I think we can do leak detection on site, but also this connectivity can help us to detect already remotely if something is going wrong on that side also.

We have also invest more and more into this air quality, because we, we believe that our solution are really providing also the best solution on, on air quality, or dryers, filtration, our screw compressor technology. And we, we want to be able to prove to our customer that we can provide that, solution in the best way also. And then, okay, I, I want to mention, I think, AI also. I think we are already doing that for several years. Of course, the new technology and the fact that AI is now much more accessible and that you have, also computing power that, allow you to do more, I think help.

But again, our approach, from machine design to how we do the sales, but also this energy monitoring, really combined with AI, really enable and unlock new possibilities. And also this in the presentation this afternoon, we will try to explain also how we can really help our customer with these solutions. Then all these new building blocks and the solution we'll develop, I believe, I think they can contribute a lot into this new low-carbon economy. And I want to illustrate a bit how it could work. So here you have a typical utility room, and I think what we try to put first is what we believe are this best compressor, Atlas Copco compressor. And what you can see, they are all different already.

So again, that depending on the moment of the year, depending you are in the full shift or in the weekend, or you are in a... Different solution will help the utility room to be the most efficient. And that's the reason why we believe Atlas Copco be able to provide this the best solution in different technology. It's already a very good base to have a low energy consumption. We put here on the bottom here, what we call our central controller. It's a small box into utility room, but there is a lot of software development ongoing there to connect all the machine together and to really optimize.

So this optimization can be done based on models in the optimizer, and that will be on site, but it's also remotely connected, and we can also there interact and over time, improve even further, this connectivity. Then behind the compressors, we have this different air treatment solution, and you recognize a bit the machine we just show in the innovation part. This, when we can put the best air treatment solution, you can also do it nearly with using zero energy, and also that testing is very important. Then in the bottom, we have what we call our energy recovery box, and there we capture all the heat coming from the compressor, and we provide it in a positive way to our customer. And why is it so important?

Because a lot of customer in the utility room also are generating heat, sometimes hot water, but also some steam, and using in a positive way, the heat of the compressor can really help. Yeah. I think we have also there, based on our models and our solution, we can really provide this heat in a stable way. But we have also offered now recently also some heat pump solution or high on high temperature, so to complement the two solution together, to provide in a stable way what we call green heat to our customer. And I think also that is. I come back to a bit when you visit customer, they want the most efficient compressor utility room, but they want also to have also a very nice and low carbon demanding solution for the heat part.

And also that I think we, we can provide. On the top of the building, the utility room, you see also this cooling solution. And also here, I think it's very important that you can, if you want to provide heat to our customer in an efficient way, you don't want to use everything in a negative way to the cooling part of that utility room, and also there we are providing our customer now with, with the best solution. Now, going a bit more to a few specific the application and domain. We have as Atlas Copco already over a long, we have providing to our customer good solution into the CNG market, that is the compressed natural gas, and we are going now more and more to the biogas. So the biogas, I think, starts from very low pressure.

So when you have the digester, you will need some very low pressure machine to take the gas out of the digester and then to bring to a purification system. So that will be step number 1, and we have at Atlas Copco the right solution for that, yeah. Then when the H2S is removed, you will have solution for screw compressors, where you will then increase the pressure from this 1 bar to 7-8 bar, and that we will do with our screw compressor. And also there we have now nice solution available on the market. Yeah. And that pressure allow you to remove also the CO2 into the biogas, because when you produce biogas, you first remove the sulfur, and then later on, you need to remove the CO2.

And the CO2, we have also, based on our adsorption solution, good solution to remove, but also then to capture the CO2 and to compress and to eventually store or to use into the application in a positive way. There is a lot of demand today in the market for a good production of CO2. You don't want to burn gas anymore to produce CO2. You want to recuperate from residual application, and also biogas is a good source for doing that. And many ways, eventually, you want to use the gas for the mobility. We can also provide this 300 bar that you need there, and I think also this solution we have. So I think we have a full scope of solution. I didn't touch, we have also filtration, as on the picture.

So we have really a full scope of solution to help of customer into the biogas industry. Then another example is on CO2 compression, and I think we have, of course, said everyone want to go to green electricity, but today there is still a lot of work to be done before we will be there. And so I think there is also a lot of demand to not let CO2 be released to the external world. And I think we have there also a nice solution to very small customer, where, for instance, into the beverage industry, they need also CO2. They need also some compressor to doing that, so we can provide that.

But you can also then store the CO2, and also there, or get a big Gas and Process machine, provide the right solution to do a CO2 storage, both in on-site and also underground, under the water. And also sometimes to help, also to collect oil, going for the nitrogen, pushing into the ground, now to CO2. And so there we have, the right solution, and we keep developing on that. So we really believe that we have a lot of new potential in application. I think, I explained the CO2 a bit. I explained the biomethane. I think, we... You know that, we are also doing, I think, very good into the LNG for ships. It's also an important, but not the only one. And then this afternoon, we will, explain you our journey on hydrogen.

I think also there, we have a lot of new solution and development ongoing to make, I think, a full contribution into the, the hydrogen world. So with this, I want to summarize in a, in a simple way. I think we have a really clear increased potential, in new, in existing market. You can make—we can make the installation more efficient, but we can also add a lot of new complementary and adjacent solution to make the full utility room, the, the most efficient. We want to build on all this technology to do that, but also to, to be part of this new emerging market.

I mentioned the battery industry, the solar panel, electronic, I think, growing very fast, so we want to be there, but also to be part of the hydrogen, the CO2 world, and the new gases that needs also a very efficient compressor solution. And we believe that doing this, we can really contribute as Compressor Technique into a low carbon society. So I think it's a good foundation for the future. Thank you.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

... Please stay on stage, because, now it's time for the questions and answer session. And, there's some music here. And, for those of you participating on the web, you can write your questions in the player, and we will bring them forward. For those of you here in the room, please, please, please, we ask you kindly to limit your questions to one at a time, so everyone have the opportunity, okay? I see we have already a lot of hands up here. So start with Daniela from Goldman Sachs. There will be microphone.

Speaker 18

Thank you for hosting the presentation. So one question from my side. Vagner, when you talked about the 4,000 business lines, they had P&L and balance sheet. Can you give us a little bit of an overview of how capital allocation goes from sort of what do you dictate from the top in terms of which business areas benefit versus what is suggested bottoms up? It would be good to get an overview on that.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Mm-hmm. Okay, we, I don't think we have defined figures per business areas. They all have a different strategy, and they have different. They are in different development stages. I mean, if you look to Compressor Technique, it's a, it's a very good return on capital employed. We did have some big acquisitions in the past that became a business area that was out of Compressor Technique. We had Vacuum Technique, we also had Power Technique and a good discipline. And other business areas are in a different journey, building the product portfolio. So we don't, we try not to limit what, how they can invest. If they show you, you don't have a good, let's say, return, you cannot invest. I think the focus is which market do we, markets do we want to be in?

Which technologies do we need for that? Should we go organic? Should we go inorganic? And I think, and that is more the decision, and then we look into the future. What is gonna be the return in the future? We want to, again, be in very attractive markets. I don't know, Peter, if you want to comment-

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

Yes

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

... with a bit more details on that one.

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah, I want to add maybe something to that, okay, we are of course in the very fortunate position that we have a very solid cash flow generation.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Mm-hmm.

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

And as a result of that, we can say that we don't have any methodology to have competing structures for capital allocation. So, we are not comparing one investment in one business area to the other and say, "Well, we have this amount of money. We're gonna give it to you or to you.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Mm-hmm.

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

And that is of course, thanks to the fantastic cash flow generation that we have, and that's also why it is so important for us to continue to drive that cash flow generation, so that we actually do not end up in the uncomfortable position that we will need to prioritize between the different initiatives we have. But of course, each and every initiative from each and every division that is being brought forward to the business area management at first, and then to the executive committee, ultimately to the board, depending on the amount of investment or capital allocation we need to make, is of course scrutinized on its merit based on net present value calculations, return requirements, et cetera.

And of course, also from a strategic perspective, how well it fits into our strategic map. If it is not close to home, if it is a bit far out, if it is rental, but not really specialty, et cetera, then of course it already kind of gets disqualified. And then it's about what kind of return, how are the synergies, is the value that we can create really going to drive the value for the group as well? But it's not a debate about whether we're gonna spend the money on A or B, and that they need to compete between the divisions or the BAs to get the cash that is required.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

I think, well, thank you. Next question, Gustaf?

Gustaf Schwerin
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Yes, thank you very much. Gustaf Schwerin, Handelsbanken. I have a question to Philippe on the service ladder that you showed for Compressor Technique and the benefits coming from that. Where would you say that you are on that journey today? I mean, to what extent are your customers doing more than, say, spare parts, ad hoc service? And maybe if you can say something about the potential over time, if you want to express that as, I don't know, percentage of revenue stemming from service, penetration on the installed base or, yeah, whatever, really. Thank you.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

So yeah-

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Just to repeat for everyone. So the question was about the service ladder.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

I guess it's for you, Philippe, and the-

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

... penetration rate and the development we have seen.

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

So, I think, as I tried to illustrate in the presentation, we are investing a lot into making this service really improving upwards, and I think we see really the step going up. So I think there is a good progress historically, and I think we see now also this new optimization service plan really coming in, and I think more and more companies are joining us on that. So I think the trend is really working, and I really believe that in the future we will be able to benefit even more from that. I think I explained that we can prove also more and more to our customer that the journey works, and that's I think our approach.

We say: "Okay, we will commit to result, and I think we can deliver this result, and that make the circle really a positive one." So I think the journey is really working.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

... Thank you. We have Klas from Citi.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Thank you. Just reflect back, Vagner, to 2017 when you became the Head of CT.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Mm-hmm.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Before that, we had a period of quite low growth in CT. I mean, partly also because of Asia and China, and the low growth there. But one thing that you and Mats did was to increase R&D quite significantly and invest in product, and we saw the growth really, really taking off. There was arguably some forward ordering maybe as well, but nevertheless, a big step up in innovation. When you look at the group today, and you're now at around 4%, do you, do you see sort of a, a need to increase further? And in what areas, when you look at R&D, would that be? Thank you.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

I think the focus is the same. I think what we saw, if I talk, I think it's better to talk about Compressor Techniques. Sorry, Philippe, if you want to add it later. But I think it's, what we did, we did saw the need to increase the R&D spending. We saw competitors getting closer, and then, okay, we need to come. But also, we saw that in some core technologies, we could put some smart people together and say, "But why you believe you have reached the limit?" It was also a mindset change as well, and I think that gave us now, I think we are harvesting, we can say, some initiatives from the past, that we could stretch the boundaries of technologies and go into new gases.

was a bit of risk, as well. And, in a way, we tried as well to work on the mindset. We could take more risks in some developments. And I think that was important. It's not only to increase the spend, but what was also a conscious decision on where we should spend, which market, which markets will offer growth, which applications will offer growth, and then we invested. And we had also cases where we said: Okay, we are not sure about this market. Should we invest now or not, or should we wait a bit to see if the mark...?

Together with the board, and that went all the way up to the board, and the board also support, because we said, "Okay, we can wait, but I think we see that there will be a market in some applications." And we took, let's say, not a huge risk, but a calculated risk to invest in R&D without knowing how the market could be growing, development. And I think I'm quite happy with the outcome of that. I think the mindset was also important. I should not underestimate that eagerness to step into new applications.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

At the current level, okay, or?

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

For instance, in some initiatives that we have, if we feel that we have to increase, we will increase. I think Peter said, "Well, we don't establish targets on that." Of course, everything you do has to be financed by the gross margin we make. And I... It's a self-filling as well, because if you invest in new technology, you create customer value, you have the right gross margin, then you can reinvest the money back. I think that goes hand on hand. Have to be in profitable applications that you allow to continue to invest. I think that it, that combination, I think, has to be in place.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Thank you. Next question goes to Olof at, Danske, please.

Olof Larshammar
Analyst, Danske Bank

Thank you. One question for Philippe. I think, you know, if you could, it would be interesting if you could elaborate a bit on, you know, the potential for heat recovery and, you know, what's the penetration rates at, you know, existing customers today? How much, you know, more revenues does such solution generates instead of just selling a compressor? And what's the payback period for, for customers installing such solutions? Thank you.

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Okay.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

For you.

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah. No, no. I think it's a very interesting question. I think we are working a lot on the different dimension. Maybe starting from the penetration, I think today it's still relatively low. And why is it so? Because often in the past, simplicity of the installation was the focus, and doing this energy recovery creates a bit more complexity. So there is definitely a lot of potential, eh? So there is, I think, the majority of installation today doesn't use the energy recovery, and as I said, there are several reasons for that. I think burning gas was very simple in the past, so you put it on, and it, it, it goes.

So when you do it from energy recovery, you need to have intelligence behind the system because you need the heat when, when the process need, need it. So I think the fact that we can do more and more digital predictivity, that really is an enabler also to make this energy recoveries now today an accessible solution to our customer, yeah? And then I think, okay, the compressor not always running the full load. That's the reason we believe that complementary, that solution by a, a high-temperature heat pump is, I think, a good formula, because then we can also guarantee always the, the heat to be delivered in a stable way. So that's a bit of our approach, and now we want to make sure that our customer can really unlock that potential.

I think still a lot to do, and now I think really working very close to customer to make it a solution that they can really integrate into their process.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Good. Next question is from the web. It's Rizk Maidi, and it's for you, I assume, Andrew. So, can you talk about the opportunity in Industrial Flow, addressable market, type of technology you're after? What other pump technologies are you missing in the portfolio?

Andrew Walker
President of the Power Technique, Atlas Copco Group

...Yeah, it's an interesting question. I mean, as I mentioned in my presentation, we're particularly focused on positive displacement pumps. We think that's the most interesting segment. Of course, the pump segment or the pump market in total is huge, it's some $80 billion, and so you have to double down in a particular space because it's so enormous. And the positive displacement space alone is EUR 20 billion, but we are only going for a small segment of that also. So we don't have all the technologies to compete in all of the positive displacement space. So, you know, in terms of technologies, we have the four or five technologies we have today. We want to add a couple more, and increase the addressable market.

Of course, as of today, we're a small part of that market, and it's so big that there's plenty of opportunities still to go for.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Great. Thank you. We have over there.

Mattias Holmberg
Equity Research Analyst, DNB Markets

Hi, Mattias Holmberg from DNB. I think this question is mostly for Peter. Would be interested to hear some about the status of the capacity investments that you're making in Vacuum Technique. And also, if you could reflect a bit upon how you view the ramp up here in relation to the anticipated demand recovery in semi CapEx. Is it sort of important that the ramp up matches demand, or would you be fine with building some excess capacity that sits idle until demand recovers?

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

Okay. First, maybe on the status of the investments. I think they are a little bit in different stages, but most importantly is that we have increased the capacity across the globe in the power hubs, as we sometimes call them. Basically Asia, including China, but also, of course, South Korea. North America has been a very big focus, and also a bit in Europe. But when it comes to the investments, we are in good progress. We have been balancing a little bit the timing of the execution of the investments, in the sense that the moment that we felt that the semiconductor industry was not proceeding as fast as they initially kind of indicated, we also kind of paced the execution of the investments a little bit.

But today, we feel that we are basically ready for an upturn in demand, and we added a lot of capacity there. It's hard to establish exactly how much capacity will be needed, but the idea is that we would get back to some a little bit of headroom in that capacity, because in the past, we used to have that headroom. As you might know, the demand pattern can be quite bulky. So, it is not a factory that you can run at 95% efficiency all the time, based on the fact that they improve the yield in those new fabs. All of a sudden, when the yield is there, they will place fairly big orders, and then the delivery times tend to be relatively short.

So you need to have that, headroom to be able to deliver on those big, chunky orders. And I believe that from a capacity point of view, and of course, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating as always, but we do believe that we are well prepared for, for an upturn. On the timing of that upturn, well, that's the million-dollar question, or probably even much more than a million-dollar question. And I, I have to be fair and honest about it, I don't know. That's my, my answer to that question. When we listen to the market, there are some indications of positiveness.

One is that we do believe that from our demand perspective, we believe we are at the bottom today, and we do not see a significant decrease in the coming quarters, or we do not expect that. Maybe minor, but it could also be kind of stable at this level. That's one thing. We believe that, for example, inventories for chips have been reduced a bit, which was a problem 1.5 years ago or so, that there was far too much stock. So there are some positive signals from the industry as well, that things are probably approaching a more, let's say, a turning point. But the timing of that turning point is difficult.

Optimists would say second half of 2024 looks probably better, and then maybe the more pessimistic voices are: 2024 is going to be a transition year. Hold, don't hold your breath right now. Wait until 2025, then things will get better. And of course, my controlling nature tells me to be a bit more conservative, so I tend to vote a little bit more for the conservative approach, and then I'm happy to overdeliver and underpromise a little bit, should it come earlier. But that's at least how I see it and how I read the signals and the comments from my colleagues from Vacuum Technique.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Thank you, Peter. We have a question at the very back.

Johan Sjöberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Thank you very much, Johan Sjöberg at Kepler Cheuvreux, and, thanks a lot for all the interesting presentations. I have a question on the sustainability impact on, on the Compressor Technique market. What sort of upside do you see to the potential compressor market, assuming all these new techniques coming on play? I think at the last CMD, Mats Rahmström said, or indicated roughly, that, that the compressor market could, could double. Is that still your view? Of course, in the long run.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

I think Mats quoted Vagner, so I think Vagner need to respond.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah, that, that's fair.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

But of course, when it will happen, I think that is... and if all stars are aligned as well. But we are working in all these new applications that, if that comes through, it will be a significant size. But it will take time because you see, there are a lot of technologies to be developed. In one of the previous questions, you said about payback. That's something that is a challenge today, because you have to put all these new technologies together in a cost-efficient way, and still a lot of design to be done. But that's the path that I think the world is going, and our customers is going that journey. I think the most important is what Philippe said: when we go to customers, they are asking for that.

They need support, and that's why we are putting now a group of very smart people to come up with with those solutions, because there is a need already today. Some customers, they have targets. They need to reach their commitments when it comes to Scope 2 and 3, and they need help. And we see already there a good starting point especially on the leading companies that want really want to to be carbon neutral. They are really coming with initiatives. I think that's what we are why we are stepping into this new technology. To say exactly when those, you have the CAGR of the air compressor that will continue to grow, driven by replacement cycle. If we can develop a more efficient compressor, that could offer a payback as well, so then you decrease a bit the replacement cycle.

It's one trend that is already within that figure, and all the new technologies, which just cannot be precise when that will happen.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Thank you. We have a question from Nordea, I think.

Magnus Kruber
Equity Research Analyst, Nordea

Yeah, thank you so much. Magnus from Nordea. A question for Andrew. Could you expand a little bit on the nature of your M&A pipeline, the size, number of opportunities in there, and if there's any way to, you can help us with the, with the total sizing context of the business area size, that would be very helpful.

Andrew Walker
President of the Power Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah, I mean, obviously, as I alluded to, we're quite active on the M&A side, and we have quite an active funnel, and we're always looking. We have been looking for the last couple of years, and we perhaps have only been successful, really successful on the pump side, if we talk about the pump side, in the last three years. But, you know, I can assure you, we have been looking and we have been studying for the last 10 years, and sometimes you get lucky, and you see a company that you're very interested in, they also want to sell, and sometimes you're unlucky, and you have to wait a bit longer. I mean, the size of that, it's variable. It changes from time to time.

I would say, for sure, our biggest focus is probably industrial pumps, although we're looking both at the dealer network on the other side, and also we're looking in the portable flow space as well, and the submersible pump space, let's say. And we have a couple of guys continuously working on our pipeline, and we have actually a very big funnel. The interesting thing is that we are a little bit bigger reputation now on flow than we had in the past, so we have some people coming to us as well, which never happened before. And that also increases our funnel. But it's also always that balance between do we agree it's an interesting target, and does it make sense within our strategy?

Sometimes you take a look at a company and it looks great from the outside, but in fact, when you get on the inside, it's not what you expected there. So it's a combination of all those things, and it's a continuous process, and I think it's a numbers game. The bigger the funnel, the more opportunities you have to close them, and if your funnel is very narrow, then you have less opportunities. So it's really difficult to predict. The only thing I can tell you is that we're very active and we're... Yeah, we want to do more.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Thank you, Andrew. We have other questions from the web, and it goes to you, Philippe. And I'll try to read here. "Is the connected compressors, compressor system, one in which you can operate in close digital infrastructure, or is it integrated to the other software and digital tools that are present on the factory floor?" That was one, and then they follow with: "And finally, can you give us some numbers on the benefits, such as energy savings, higher output, et cetera, that comes from those connected compressors?" So first one was-

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

... is, are they connected to the other systems, and the other one's the benefits.

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah, I think I touched it briefly during the presentation. We have learned that if we have not this 4G, 5G connection, it's very difficult to make it stable and to keep the transparency to our back ends and to go back to the customer with data that are really manageable. It's difficult to do. So that's one solution. But we are also very close to our customer, and when they need to connect to their SCADA system, the same can be done. So one is not against the other.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Okay.

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

We really provide both solution.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

The second part, they asked about, I'm not sure we share the numbers, but can you give us some numbers on the benefits, such as energy savings, higher output, that comes from the adoption of connected compressors?

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah, during the visit this afternoon, it really depends on the type of compressor, the size, the application.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Mm.

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

It's very difficult to give you one number, but it, it's really significant. It's... Yeah.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

If I can just add one-

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Mm

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

... little thing on that one. I think the good thing what we see now, it's really part of our day-to-day life in the customer center. Using the data is already integrated in the things we do, and I think that is, and it's spreading as well into engineering, in other areas of the company. I think that is really creating value.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

... in the back.

Andy Wilson
Analyst, JPMorgan

Hi, it's Andy Wilson from JP Morgan. I wanted to ask you a question in terms of it feels like in compressor, it's... Sorry, can you hear me okay?

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Yes.

Andy Wilson
Analyst, JPMorgan

Sorry, you were all looking like you couldn't. In compressor, it feels like the business model's kind of moving on in the sense of kind of product plus service to more solution plus service. And as that portfolio broadens in terms of equipment, and also as kind of that investment in digital goes into service, it would feel to me that it's gonna be increasingly difficult for the competition to replicate that, maybe outside of some of the bigger players. And I think you can probably make the same argument in terms of Industrial Technique, and I suspect the others to some degree as well. I'm just interested in what you've seen in terms of your competitor behaviors with regards to trying to either match that or trying to do something different, because it would feel it gets increasingly difficult for them to do that.

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

I think what I tried to present to you, that we don't develop only one separate box. We try really to develop that total solution. And as we believe, we do that because we believe that's really the number that matters for the customer, that his full utility room is performing in the most efficient way. And we believe approaching that, we really create the best value for our customer. And as I tried to explain, we start from a compressor, but over the years, we have built all this other technology, and we build it from the ground, so we develop and we produce them also ourselves. So we can put the right number data model behind it, and we can make this connectivity really, really smart. It's not only the data, but it's also the physical models behind that.

I think that create, I think, a very strong solution for our customer, and I think that's really our approach and how we believe, and we want to build further into the market. Yeah.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Good. We have one question here. Ben, please.

Speaker 17

Yeah, morning. It's Ben, from Bank of America. We've talked a lot about the opportunities and the parts of the portfolio that you're super excited about. Are there parts of the portfolio that are not performing as you'd expected and could potentially be disposed? Could you maybe talk a little bit about that?

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

I think that's a-

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

... general question for you, Vagner.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah, indeed. I think we are always revising the portfolio. I think in some products, it's already under transformation. It's not something that we, we will, "Oh, now this is not part," because the transformation is ongoing already in some product portfolios that where we can find a bit more growth. I'd say at this point in time, we never say no. We, we are not looking to, but, but the revision of the portfolio is a constant practice or repurposing or refocusing the portfolio. I think it's something we have a couple of exercises ongoing in CT, but repurposing the portfolio, of looking for new niche market, markets where we can have a better growth, so repositioning. I think that is ongoing on a constant basis.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Klas?

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Thank you. Thank you for taking the follow-up. So, also on service, but asking in a different way. Obviously, we've seen high single-digit growth, particularly in Compressor Technique for many, many years, and, I mean, that's very impressive. I mean, you see that in sort of regulated industries like elevators and so forth. And I'm trying to understand a little bit, when we move from air compression to sort of industrial gases, et cetera, is that increasing the wear and tear? Is that increasing the addressable market on service? That's number one. Number two is really around the increased complexity of the compressors. You talk about heat recovery, et cetera, and adding connectivity to that. Does that also mean that it's easier for you to upsell a service contract? Thank you.

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

So I can maybe start, and you can complement. But I think what I tried also to explain, we really believe the foundation we put in air compressor, we want to use in the same way into the new application. So we don't want to just go into a gas market and creating a me-too product. We want to provide the same kind of total solution into this world. And that's what I'm trying to also present. We don't go with just a compressor; we also develop filter for hydrogen. We have already dry air. So we believe putting the full scope is also helping to create the difference, to not be a me-too into this new world, but to provide the same solution. Because if we can do that way, we are...

The aim is to do the same, replicate the model, service model for this application in the same way that, that we did for the, for the air application. And I think the connectivity, is it an hydrogen or a, of a CO2, of an air compressor, is the same, data that you collect, the same way of working, so we can very easily replicate it. Yeah, and, and I think then we can leverage and make sure that we are there also, I think, providing, I think, the, the best solution and, and create a bit what you say, that we can also have on this new application, the same service penetration that we have into the, the air compressor.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

If I can add a,

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Oh, sorry.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Just can add a couple of things that we have done as well lately. So we have already adapted the platform, the SMARTLINK platform, because we talk about SMARTLINK. You need to send data, and then you need to host that data in a certain way. And a couple of years ago, we decided to revamp the platform to receive the data from different types of equipment already, trying to fulfill that mission. And some of the products that you said will have higher aftermarket, some will have lower. On average, it's gonna be similar aftermarket potential.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Thank you.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

... Andrew Idborg from ABG, please.

Anders Idborg
Equity Research Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Yeah, thank you. We just appreciate an update on Compressor Technique in China. I know last year, Mats talked very much about continuing to invest, et cetera. Just be interested, are you sort of fully localized? Are you sort of confident that you would be insulated to any or insular to any further trade restrictions, et cetera? So are you still spending a proportionate amount of CapEx there? And if also for Vagner, if you could just say a few words on the same topic for vacuum, that'd be appreciated.

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Mm-hmm. Okay, I will start for compressors. I think we have built a full development team also in China, and I think maybe 10 years ago it was most localization, and today we have the full range of products really localized. So we have 95 and plus product that are available in China for the Chinese market. So that we have, and we have now put also the same development team that you will see a bit this afternoon here in Europe. We have the same approach in China, and we develop also now also in China, products really specifically for the Chinese market. And why we believe it's important, because we want to be competitive into the biggest market in the world.

China is the biggest compressor market in the world, and we want really to be, I think, a big player also in China, and we are big, and we want to maintain. And that's the reason why we believe it's not only localizing, we really need to develop. So I think there is a full team also to develop the market in China. And then maybe to pick up on the previous question, I think we see also that China, there is a little bit of headwind now, and there is also big focus now in China to go to this replacement. So the journey that maybe in Europe was ten years ago on replacement, that also now is picking up in North America.

So there's a lot of people are consensus that you need to improve your installation and they take that journey with us. And also now in China, I think both from the government, but also from the customer, the fact that electricity is foreseen to become more expensive in the coming years, also make that a journey on replacement is ongoing. So we believe we are well prepared for that.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

So when it comes to vacuum, we produce most of the product that we use there, but there are products that we are still not producing in, in China, and we are addressing now, as we speak as well, that we want to have more local production. One good example, we were not producing abatement systems in China. Now, we started the production. There are some other products in the pipeline, as well. And not, not only that, in ITB-A, there are initiatives as well. We are expanding our operations there. So we are working on that as we speak.

Magnus Kruber
Equity Research Analyst, Nordea

Yeah. Thank you. Magnus here from Nordea. Another question to Andrew: Could you talk a little bit about how large proportion of your portfolio that you have a electric or battery or, or, or hybrid offering, and what the profitability is there, and ideally a little bit on what that has done to your competitive position?

Andrew Walker
President of the Power Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Sure. So, on the portable compressor side, we have the full portfolio in electric, so we don't have the same quantity of units, but we cover the full range compared to the diesel. Today, it's still a small proportion of our sales, but I can say that it's more profitable than the diesel business because there's less competition in one respect, and also, our product costs are less. So, in the future, we of course are more interested in selling more electrical equipment, electrical-driven equipment, because it's more rewarding for us. And indeed, the total cost of ownership for the customer is also better. So when you have less service costs and better total cost of ownership, the customer is prepared to pay for that benefit.

So that's on the portable compressor side. I also mentioned on the portable flow side, we have a full range of electric pumps as well, a complete range. So for every diesel-driven surface pump, we have an electrical-driven surface pump with the same, let's say, dynamics, better margins, better total cost of ownership. But of course, in a lot of these installations, which are quite remote, they're very interested in having a unit that runs on diesel, because, you know, if you're in the Australian Outback, for instance, you may not have a power supply. So, our goal is to sell more, and we're still starting that journey. So I would expect, you know, at some point we get an even more positive mix.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Any more questions? Here we have. Please.

Rory Smith
Equity Research Analyst, UBS

Thank you. It's Rory Smith from UBS. Thanks for taking my question. It's quite a specific one for Compressor Technique. Are you seeing any activity in North American upstream oil and gas from the adoption of air compression to prevent methane emissions from upstream production sites? Apologies, that's quite niche, but, anything there?

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

We have more?

Philippe Ernens
President of the Compressor Technique, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah. Yeah, I think on the gas industry, we are not in only one of the niches. We try to be in the full upstream and downstream. So the gas price is relatively low, so I think, yeah, the last month, so that makes it... It's a bit lower, also very recently, but we believe the trend is good, and we have the right solution, so that's a bit the way we approach it.

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Good. Daniela, you have one more question here, please.

Speaker 18

Yeah, a question for Peter, actually. On the chart where you had the dividends and the cash to shareholders, it seems like you've done redemptions every three to four years. Can you remind us about sort of the logic of the process behind it?

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

... Sure. I mean, it's not a mathematical formula that every three years there's gonna be another dent in or a positive dent in the graph. It's of course a function of the specific situation. I think, from our perspective, and I would imagine from a shareholder perspective in general as well, our first preference is to take the money and not run, but use it for good investments in acquisitions. Because if we define good target cases, and we can see how the value can be created through the acquisition, then we would rather deploy all that cash into acquisitions, and try to generate even more value than we already are. And that, I think, is the first preferred option to use the cash.

But then if at a certain point, we feel that the cash is accumulating, thanks to a solid cash flow coming out of the operations, we might at a certain point in time if there is a kind of excess cash position again entertain the idea of a redemption. But there is no specific timing on that, and like I said, there's definitely no formula like: "guys, it's year three, let's do redemption again." So that's not how it works. But again if we find the right targets, mostly medium-sized targets, and very small targets have been on the agenda so far. We haven't done really huge acquisitions. That doesn't mean we shy away of them, but of course there is. It's much more complex, much more risk associated with it.

And also, in that case, if it's a bigger company, it's less likely that there will be a perfect fit. There is always something that doesn't really match what we want to do, and then it becomes fairly complicated maybe. But if there is an opportunity, I think we have the firepower, not only from a cash position, but actually also from a funding point of view. I think we have a fairly high rating, but the rating is not really what drives us. So if we find a good target to add to the group, we will definitely do that, if the board agrees to that as well.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Good. I think we have one question in the very, very back, and I think it is Fredrik Agardh from SEB.

Fredrik Agardh
Analyst, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken

Yep, that's right. Thank you very much. I have a specific question on your semi exposure, so I guess it's for Peter or Vagner. In the past years, you've been very successful in China, and if I'm correct, you've taken quite significant market shares in your deliveries there. Could you give us an update on how much of your semi exposure in the past year or so that is actually China, and where do you expect that to go in the next year or next couple of years here? I understand the balance in the U.S. and perhaps in Europe in demand, but where do you think China is going here?

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah, maybe I can start, and you complement. I think the demand, if you look to China, so they still import quite a lot of chips, so I think I will not drop a figure because I think the, that's public data. And they are also eager to develop. So in the higher nodes, I think they will work, and that's the signal that it's clear in the market. They will work to have their own production, and they still import a lot. That means there will be still growth in China in the coming years for the semi. So for the lower nodes, I think it's a technology problem. I think it's a speculation if I comment.

They will definitely try to develop, but I think already on the higher nodes that is used in several industries, and they still import quite a lot, that development will continue. They—meaning they import a lot of chips, and they want to have that locally produced. I think the journey will continue from what we can see.

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah. And I think to add to that, I think... and that is actually, you could say, valid for every single business area when it comes to China. In order to be able to continue to grow our share of wallet in the country, it's crucial for a multinational, let's say, foreign company to continue to have leading-edge technology. And as long as we have leading-edge technology, having the total life cycle cost at the lowest level, delivering the best efficiency to the process, et cetera, and of course, also provide the right service capabilities to the customer so that the uptime can be at the highest possible level.

I think we, of course, are in a good position to continue to do a good job in the market, and that is, of course, by no means limited to Vacuum Technique, but especially on Vacuum Technique, which has been defined as one of those strategic segments from a, let's say, national strategy point of view. I think it's important that we continue to have leading-edge technology. As Vagner said, the big nodes, they are focusing a lot, and I think many of the investments are coming from exactly that particular segment. That is where we sell most of the equipment, while at the same time, of course, they are fighting hard, I think, to develop the lower nodes or the smaller node technology very, very fast.

And I'm sure that with all the efforts they are putting into that, they will be successful, so. But then again, our local for local strategy fits very well for all the different markets in the world, but particularly for the Chinese market. And basically, our strategy for China is across the group to engage and de-risk. And local for local is one of the most important aspects to de-risk our business in China, but also to engage with the local customers, with our own employees, in order to make sure that we still continue to attract the best potentials and the smartest people to continue to develop in the right direction.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

... Thank you.

Fredrik Agardh
Analyst, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken

Is there any chance of getting a number on how big China is of your semi exposure at the moment? Just to get a feel for it, a rough ballpark.

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

I don't think we have disclosed that.

Fredrik Agardh
Analyst, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken

No, but it's, of course, one of our most important market, markets, but we won't-

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

All right, thanks.

Fredrik Agardh
Analyst, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken

share the number.

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

But you know that, of course, that, if you look at, the spread of the, the different business areas as being presented on capital markets, they, et cetera, that Asia overall is a most-

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

significant part in the portfolio for Vacuum Technique. And okay, by extension, you could, of course, clearly say that China is a very important market within Vacuum Technique.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Good. We have one more question from the web, and then we have time for one final question from the audience here. And you were very quick, Sebastian, but we start with the web. It's from Rizk. It goes to you, Vagner. Initial impressions, as the CEO of the group, what initiatives you want to implement at the group level from CT? Anything different we should expect on running the group?

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

I think what I said, and I stick to that during the presentation, we do have a good strategy. I think the focus that we have, those pillars, that we work to focus on niche markets, try to find growth, differentiated technology, I think we will continue to focus on that. But I also highlighted the importance of people in the whole process, and by no means I say we were not doing well, I think we were doing very well. The way I've been working my entire career is through people development and engaging people, as well, empowering people to try new things. I think that has worked quite well in CT, and I think we will continue. That's the way I work.

That's the way I think we have been quite successful in CT, but not only. I think I was in the service division, I was in other areas, and I think this is a good way to get the people together, and to find proper solutions to the problems that we have. We have been successful with that. I will put emphasis on the people side, definitely.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Sounds great. Last one, Mr. Sebastian.

Speaker 16

Yeah.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Please go ahead.

Speaker 16

Yeah, just a follow-up on the question on China exposure in VT. I was wondering, do you have any products that are actively blocked from exports into China at the moment, and like cryopumps or turbomolecular pumps? And are you currently still allowed to service all your equipment in China?

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

I can start. I think first of all, there are regulations in place, and we do follow all regulations. There are restrictions, and we do follow those restrictions. What is key is what Peter said, we also have local development in China to support those markets. But I think the main topic, if there are restrictions in place, we will follow. And I think that is the main message, and we will continue to follow. If they increase it, the restrictions increase, we will comply, always. I don't know, Peter, if you want to add, because-

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

To my knowledge, at this particular point-

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Yeah

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

... in time, there are very, very limited,

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Mm-hmm

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

... restrictions, limited limitations, to what we can do in China. And then, of course, when we look at the particular products, the biggest part of our business in semi is more in the subfab, and there we have-

Vagner Rego
President and CEO, Atlas Copco Group

Mm

Peter Kinnart
CFO, Atlas Copco Group

... no limitations to what we can do with the customers. So, if any, then it's very limited. Sometimes it can be indirect. If machine tool builders are not allowed or not getting an export license for their equipment, and some of our products, even though not limited, are going to be built into those machine tools, then of course, we also get an indirect, you could say, repercussion. But also, so far, that has been, very, very limited.

Daniel Althoff
Head of Investor Relations, Atlas Copco Group

Good. With that, we end this questions- and- answers session. So, for those of you on the web, thank you all. We will leave you now.

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