Earnings Call: Q4 2023

Jan 31, 2024

Welcome to the quarterly presentation by Atrium Jungberg of Q4 2023. Presenting the results and the activities of the quarter is CEO, Annika Oanes and CFO, Ulrike Danielsson. The presentation will be followed by a Q and A. Annika, please go ahead. Yes. Thank you very much. The heading for this report is good growth in the profit from property management and progress in our projects. I would like to start to summarize and highlight a few things from this report. Our property Portfolio looks very similar to last quarter with 80% of the value in Stockholm. The biggest segment, Office, Stands for 65% of the total value and only 18% retail. Our net letting amounted to minus SEK 17,000,000 in the 4th quarter, including termination from our side of SEK 7,000,000 due to upcoming projects. The net letting amounted to SEK 53,000,000 for the whole year and includes termination from our side due to upcoming projects of SEK 15,000,000. But during the Q4, we did a letting to Stockholm University of Arts and that letting is not included until certain conditions in the agreements are met. Our profit from property management increased by 19% in Q4 and 21% for the whole year. And the like for like figure in operating net increased by 14%. We have today ongoing projects with an investment of SEK 8,200,000,000 where SEK 4,900,000,000 remains to be invested. Of the projects completed during 2024, we have a pre letting of 91%. As I mentioned in the beginning, we have a big focus on Stockholm, both in our existing properties and our upcoming investments. The major areas are Hagastaden, Slussen, Slaktusomirodut and Sikla. All areas where we have a subway in Stockholm or where there will be one in the coming years. I think we have a unique position in our locations in Stockholm. We still see demand for office space in location in Greater CBD in Stockholm, where the highest demand in Aotrien Bay is in Slussen and Hagastaden. We had some quality discussions with potential tenants during Q4, discussions I thought would have been landed in the agreement before the New Year's. Hopefully, they can be settled in this quarter. We see a cost efficiency and flexibility focus among the tenants, but also the trend that companies want to be in an area with a context and where I think our strategy is hand in hand. Retail comprises 18% of the company's total property value and represent a large diverse range of tenants, which contributes to important supply of services for our office tenants. We have a good performance in our retail hubs and have a higher turnover now than before the pandemic. Our mix in the retail hubs makes them more resilient during tougher times. The Swedish condominium market show a big portion of uncertainty due to a higher interest cost and inflation. We are continuing to see low number of sales launched for condominiums, far below the average over the past years. The number of apartments sold are at low levels and we see that our competitors have done some price adjustments. We have 2 projects ongoing where the sales rate has approved approximately 5 percentage points both in Naka and Uppsala during the Q4. At the end of the year, we had sales rate of 72% in Uppsala and 51% in Naka. And we have had a pretty good start in the beginning of the new year with a greater interest on our viewings. As I already mentioned, net letting ended up at minus SEK 17,000,000 in the last quarter. I was quite certain just a few weeks before Christmas that we would have had a positive net letting. Unfortunately, We received 2 larger terminations that had quite big impact on our numbers. The positive part is that this Termination is in Slussen and Hagastaden, areas with a big demand. One termination was from a company leaving the Swedish market, and we will receive a penalty during 2024. During the quarter, we have signed several new contracts. The 3 biggest is Haikyu in Slussen of a little more than 2,000 square meters, Brils, 1,000 square meters moving to Hagastaden, And then the Stockholm University of the Arts, a big release contract for more than 20,000 square meters. And as I mentioned before, we have not included this netting in the net letting due to the fact that the lease is conditional and will therefore be reported in the net letting when all conditions are met. And hopefully that will be in Q4 this year. We have a well diversified contract portfolio where our 10 largest customers accounts for 20% of the revenue. Of this 20%, 7% is from state and municipalities. The average contract period was 4.6 years. Offices is our biggest source of revenue with 55%. Customer durables, our 2nd largest part represent 15% of the total revenue. If we look at our maturity of leases for 2024, it's only 7% of the total annual contract value And 29% of the total that has a maturity from the year 2029 and after. I think it's quite interesting that we have only 5 tenants over 10,000 square meters and that the average is 700 square meters. Let's look a little closer at our retail portfolio. I know I showed you this image last quarter as well, but I think it's important to understand the mix in our retail hubs. Somehow people tend to think that retail is only fashion, but it's not our case. We have during a long period of time Work to diversify our retail hubs to have a wide range of different players. Fashion stands for 14% of the turnover in our retail hubs. I think we have a very attractive retail portfolio. And as I mentioned in the beginning, turnover is higher than before the pandemic. Food, alcohol and Pharmacysts stands for 41% of the turnover in our retail hubs. The businesses that are performing the best in our shopping centers are pharmacy, low price segment and groceries. And the ones are struggling the most are electronics and home decoration and furniture. And by that I hand over to Ulrika to comment our financial performance. In 2023 with the profit from property management isolated Q4 of SEK 341,000,000 equal to 19% growth. For the full year 2023 we thus improved profit from property management by SEK 238,000,000 equal to 21%. The 4th quarter developed in line with previous quarters. Good revenue development combined with good cost control and continued stable net interest income. NOI in like for like improved by 13% in the last quarter and 14% for the full year. As a result of the good management on leasing work, we achieved a surplus ratio of 71% in 2020 3, which is an increase of 4 percentage points from 2022. The central administration is usually back, Kevin, in our company. You only have to look back to see that roughly 1 third of the costs will come in Q4. In this analysis, we should remember that Q4 last year had a net one off of NOK 9,000,000 as a result of Two things. On the one hand, we set aside SEK 11,000,000 for the restructuring on our reorganization we carried out. [SPEAKER STEPHAN ROBERTO DA CUNHA CASTELLO BRANCH:] And on the other hand, we received net pension repayments of NOK 20,000,000. So if we adjust for that, this year's outcome is slightly through. Net financial items are stable and our average interest rate is basically unchanged since Q3. [SPEAKER ALEXANDER VAN DE LAARSCHOT:] We have done some things in Q4, but I will come back to that. Property yields continue to move [SPEAKER JEAN FRANCOIS PRUNEAU:] In our portfolio around 10 basis points in the 4th quarter, which means that we have adjusted yields upwards 6 quarters in a row from 4% in Q2 to 4.7% now in Q4. [SPEAKER JACQUES VAN DEN BROEK:] We continue to have positive cash flow into the valuation, which does not forever fully mitigate the yield increase. [SPEAKER JOCHEM VAN DE LAARSCHOT:] And that is why we have a net write down of NOK 250,000,000 in the 4th quarter equal to 0.4%. And as a result, we have written down 2.8% this year. Our credit related key rates [SPEAKER JOCHEM VAN DE LAARSCHOT:] This remained stable. All the 2 of them weakened somewhat in the last quarter. The LTV of 52.5% is an increase from Q3. [SPEAKER FRANCK DE LA CHEVARDIERE:] That is explained by an increased rate of investment in the last quarter as well as declines in value and paid dividends. Increased rate of investment and dividends paid also affect the net debt to EBITDA, which increases slightly to just below 13, But that is clearly better than the 2022 outcome of 2016. And the ICR lands at SEK 3,700,000,000 which is slightly better than Q3's number. But that is the history. There are a few things I think I was mentioning for 2024. The index outcome for 2024 will be roughly €135,000,000 for us, which will result in increased rental income. Katarina Hissett, which is a major project, will be completed in this year [SPEAKER JOCHEM VAN DE LAARSCHOT:] And contribute to an increase in rental income and thereby the NOI. How much I will come back to. [SPEAKER LARS FRUERGAARD FOUNDER:] We have increased leasehold fees roughly 5,000,000 to 6,000,000. And our average interest rate will increase gradually, which is [SPEAKER UNIDENTIFIED COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:] Sure, but more of that later. But first to like for like and our core business. In like for like rental income increased by 10%, which is slightly lower than in Q3. And this is mainly explained by the fact that we had lower costs and by that we charge slats. That is reflected in a continued high annual income growth of 14.4% for 2023. [SPEAKER JEAN FRANCOIS PRUNEAU:] Of the total revenue growth this year of 10%, 7 percentage points is SEPAI, and the remainder is basically [SPEAKER ALEXANDER VENGRANCO:] The effects of completed renegotiations and lower discounts. Based on continued good cost control, this means that Our NOI growth in like for like with NOK 209,000,000 equal to 14.4 percent. [SPEAKER ALEXANDER VENGRANOVICH:] And that represents roughly 2 third of total NOI growth. And the remaining increase comes mainly from projects, But also transactions. So let's take a look at that. The project portfolio is progressing. Ongoing projects as moving forward, and we are starting new projects according to plan. As you already know, the completed projects LifeSeater and Vazparka B [SPEAKER ADRIENNE LECORVAISIER:] Has contributed to the rental income by roughly €55,000,000,000 23. However, we have vacated PV Palazzo del Sedra, which have entered into project phases. And that entails a loss of revenue Roughly SEK 38,000,000 of which most is in Zayed Halema. And then we have Katarina which will be completed in 2024. Tenants have moved in gradually during 2023 And they will move in gradually during 2024. So in the outcome for 2023, Katarina Iusit has [SPEAKER ALEXANDER VENGRANOVICH:] Contributed with roughly SEK 40,000,000 in increased rental income. And for the next year or 2024 to be more specific. That number is expected to let in around €110,000,000 to €150,000,000 And the full force of this development we will show we will see in the P and L for 2025. Our 2 acquisitions in Q2 2022 in Then in the Q1 2023 means that we lose income of NOK 62,000,000. So the net contribution from transaction decreases as time passes. In Q4, we have increased average yield by 10 basis points, as I said earlier, which means that we have seen increases for the 6 quarter in a row, a total of 35 basis points since the start of during 2023, 70 basis points since we started to increase in Q3 2022. 70 basis points increase corresponds to a total decline in value of 12% in our portfolio. That is a large movement. That decline in value has been mitigated by strengthened cash flow, which results in an increase of 7%. And that means that the net movement in value in 6 quarters is a decline of only 5%. The fixed income market has been nervous for most of 2023 and in Q4 we experienced a large decline in market interest rates, which certainly turned up somewhat since the turn of the year. Looking ahead, we see that there is a very big difference between the Riksbank's beliefs and the market's pricing. If Riksbank changes its interest rate path, we will know tomorrow and then this picture may look different. Long term interest rates have also moved. A 10 year swap has gone from 3 50 basis points in October to fall back at a low in mid December to 260 basis points. In other words, sharp movements of over 100 basis points. And since then, however, it has rebounded and was trading in mid January roughly 40 basis points above the December low. We have navigated in this landscape by rearranging the fixed income portfolio a bit and thus manage to maintain the average interest rate while extending the duration. But having said that, it is Highly likely that our and other companies' financing costs will increase and be higher than they have been over the past decade despite falling marketing interest rates. Of course, how quickly this happens depends on the duration of the company's fixed interest and capital tied up. No one should be immune, I think, and neither should in Mumbai. And this means that we will gradually see a higher average interest rate in 2024 and moving forward as a result of the new normal where both market interest rates and credit margins being higher than what matures. The Swedish capital markets has gradually improved since the summer, where we have shown declining margins through various issues from April to October. And the last one in October was 3.25 years old with a run of 218 basis points. If we were to do the same now, I think we could learn in around 170 basis points. And the fact that mine exists and needs to be invested is of course positive. Liquidity is always important. The short part of the capital market, the so called CP market, has also been active, While investors in the first half of the year wanted to roll maturities at the best, We have been able to issue new investors in the second half of the year and increase the volume to almost SEK 1,900,000,000. And in terms of pricing, there has been some improvement, where early in 2023, we were at 70 basis points. For 3 month maturity, we are now at 65. So all in, some improvements, even if we and everyone else need to acclimatize to higher financing costs. The 4th quarter has been fairly Carl, from a refinance perspective, as I just mentioned, we have printed a small bond and been active in the CP market. We have a good liquidity benefit of SEK 8,000,000,000 which will cover more than future maturities into 2025 while meeting the needs of the business. And as I mentioned earlier, we have changed a little in the derivatives portfolio and thus created moderation. Even if we have 19% that was due to maturity, during this year at this point in time roughly 50% of that is floating debt and the rest is really good interest rate position from derivatives as well as fixed bonds. [SPEAKER FRANCESCA DI VAN DE LAARSCHOT:] As far as the capital market is concerned, time has passed and we now have a duration of 3.5 years. We have large bank maturities in 2025, mainly in the second half of the year. For liquidity buffered reason, the plan is to handle large part of this already this year and dialogue has been initiated. Our credit rates are stable. We have an ICR isolated quarter of SEK 3.8 Accumulated of SEK 3.7 billion. The net debt to EBITDA, which was far too high at the beginning of the year, has steadily slowed down And it's now at 12.9%, compared with 15.6% at the beginning of 2023. [SPEAKER FRANCESCA DI VAN DE LAARSCHOT:] And the LTV, as I mentioned, is increasing mainly as a result of an increased rate of investment And dividends paid as well as declines in value, but remains well within our policy. [SPEAKER ALEXANDER VAN DE LAARSCHOT:] And I would like to conclude by mentioning that in the Q4, we had our rating confirmed from Moody's BAA2 with a continued negative outlook. And the latter is mainly driven by the fragility, you could say, of our ICR, which is nevertheless strong relative to many others. And the rating is important for us going forward, which is why this was good news and an acknowledgement that we are doing the right things. So Annika over to you. Thank you, Ulrike. So let's update you on our project portfolio. At the end of Q4, we had ongoing Construction with a total investment of SEK 8,200,000,000 of which SEK 4,900,000,000 remains to be invested. Of ongoing projects, SEK 7,000,000,000 is investment in properties that are developed to own. We had an increase of investment in our projects due to price adjustments in constructions, but we have mitigated most of that with increased rents in new lettings. In addition, we have also increased the yield requirements in our projects as in all properties. And today we have a project profit of approximately 22% corresponding to SEK 1,500,000,000 of which SEK 700,000,000 has already been reported. Furthermore, we have ongoing condominium production of SEK 1,200,000,000 with an asset market value of SEK 1,500,000,000 and the profit will be realized as the project are completed. On this image you see our ongoing projects and when they will be completed. Of the projects that we will Complete in 2024, we have pre let 91%. During the Q4, we signed The agreement with the City of Stockholm of the acquisition of Mela Trasen in Slussen and took also the investment decision. The deal comprises 7,000 square meters GFA of restaurants, cafes and culture facilities with a fantastic view over Stockholm Old City and the water. The plan for completion is in the middle of 2026 And the investment includes land is approximately SEK 430,000,000. We have also decided on the start of the construction of the next residential block in Nobelbajer, Zikla. This will be the 4th block out of the total of 8 and it's the first one that will be constructed in wood. The interest of residential in Nobelbari is high. The first two blocks have been completed and the residents have moved in. And the 3rd block, which is the highest Elevation will be completed by summer. Constructions will now begin for the 4th block, BRF Kultur Arvett, which consist of 80 condominiums distributed between the 3 buildings. The total area will be around 8 1800 square meter, with an estimated investment of approximately SEK 465,000,000. This will be the 1st block in Nobelbajet constructed in wood and the start of Stockholm Wood City, the world's largest wooden city, which will be built in Sighla over the next 10 years. Stockholm Wood City will consist of 250,000 square meters of wooden frame Buildings and in addition to residential will also include offices, retail and services. During the Q4, we signed the lease agreement with Stockholm University of the Arts. The new block comprises nearly 36 1,000 square meters in the Sluktus area and is expected to be completed in 2,030. The lease is 20,000 square meters and is conditional and will therefore only be reported in the net letting when all conditions are met. And as I said, I hope it will take place in the turn of 2024, 2025. The investment of this project is approximately SEK 2,000,000,000. And finally, a few words about the product portfolio going forward. We will develop 4 areas in Stockholm where there is a natural growth of people. The potential investment is about SEK 40,000,000,000 All locations where there is a subway station today or will be 1 at the latest 2030. In Sikla, we are planning to add 250,000 square meters. And as I said, just before summer we launched Stockholm Wood City. The investment will be the total of SEK 14,000,000,000. In Slukto's area, the Stockholm meat packing district, we are also planning for Swiss and apartments with a total of 200,000 square meters and a total investment of SEK 11,000,000,000 Hager Stadenos Flusen, a part of Stockholm in a city, we have projects for more than 150,000 square meters and the total of SEK 9,000,000,000 and this is mostly offices. In December 2023, we communicated a new dividend policy in the light of an increased Investment pace in our urban development projects and to be able to conduct a business with a low financial risk taking, We believe that a lower dividend payout ratio was appropriate. Based on this, the Board proposes a dividend of SEK 3.50 per share. And finally, a few words about the future. I think we are well equipped, but I'm humble going into 2024. The developments on the rental markets due to economic slowdown and the changing needs profile are affecting all property companies including Altriaum Joonberg. However, it is during these times that our strategy building a sustainable and attractive city shows its true strength. The index for 2024 means that our rental income will be SEK 135,000,000 higher, while our objective to maintain good cost control remains. In addition, our big project Katarina Houssat at Slosen will be completed in the beginning of the year, which will result in good net operating growth. Even if we see that market rates are continuing to fall, the levels are higher than those in our interest rate portfolio, which means that our average interest rate will gradually rise. Overall, We're facing conditions to deliver a good 2024, but this will require considerable commitment and hard work from all of us at Autrum Mumbai. And by that, we open up for questions. Thank you, Annika and Luka, for that presentation. Very interesting. And in this Q and A, we will also let Equity Analysts from a chat function. But I'll start off with a question before I let them in. Regarding Wood City, you have You earlier told us about huge international interest. Have that continued? Yes, it has actually continued. We have a lot of viewings on our headquarter now showing the project and Also have a lot of nominees for different prices during this spring. So we'll see what comes out of that. But it's a lot of fun, of course, to See this big interest that is shown all over the world. Yes. And now you've started construction of the first wooden houses. Yes, we will during the Q1 now. Okay. And with that, I would like to welcome John Wong at Kempen. If you can turn on your camera and microphone and go ahead with your questions. Hi, yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I think in your Management commentary, you mentioned that you received a few late terminations just before the end of the year. Were these tenants On your radar for potential terminations? Or was this did this come as a surprise to you? Well, as I said, it was one Quite big that was a big surprise to me. It is a tenant that is leaving the Swedish market. So that was unexpected, and that means that we also had a penalty that we will have in the P and L. I think it Was the Q4? Yes. So the negative net netting was both a surprise and a disappointment for me. But So as I mentioned, the Stockholm University of Arts that we have done the deal, but we have not taken in the net letting yet because of the clause that we have in that contract. Okay, clear. And maybe taken together with the Slow decision making process by tenants. What are you seeing in renegotiations at the moment? Do you receive any pushback following another year of High indexation that you're getting this year? Well, the year 2023, It was not a problem. Of course, I'm humble about the fact that the index for the last two years has been quite high. So we'll see exactly how that turns out, but also the fact that on the new letting, we receive very good levels. So in that sense, the price has not really been an issue, the deals we have done so far. Okay. That's clear. Just to clarify, I suppose the new letting that's mostly on the project portfolio, Are you still seeing good demand for your existing portfolio? Definitely, Especially in Slussen and in Hagerstaaden, we have the most interest and demand, but we also We're out now selling Stockholm Wood City, and we see a demand because of the fact that we are doing this project in a new way with Sustainability, that is a big thing in this project, and we see a lot of interest because of that. We'll see if we can make something out of that during this year now. Okay, clear. And then maybe moving on to valuations. It states that 35% of your portfolio has been externally valued. Are these skewed to any regional or asset type? And is there any difference between the external and internal appraisal? No. It is no big differences. And also I would like to say that the rest of the valuation is done internally, but they are 100% checked by external an external value that goes through each valuation. And the mix that is we have a policy that roughly onethree should be externally valued each year. And that means that each asset in the portfolio should be external valued on a 3 year basis. So it's a rotation all the time. And we try to pick a reflection of the portfolio regarding retail, offices and the regional aspect. Okay. Clear. And just as last one, The inflation assumption for 2024 in your valuations is 2%. Is this a fair reflection of valuations given that indexation is at SEK 6.5 billion? No. We, together with external valuators, always Try to set the same assumption of the CPI uplift. And we decided to put 2% for the next year and the coming years ahead. Okay, clear. And on the valuation write downs that you saw in Q4, How much of this is offset by development gains? Only a small part, the isolated quarter, I think, if I remember it, that we had €4,000,000 in project gains only. You see that you find that number in the report. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. That's it from my side. Thank you so much, John Wong at Kempen. And I have one more question regarding Wood City, of course. Is there a big difference within the project and when it comes to cost when you exchange concrete and steel to wood? Well, expect for the sustainability part, if you look on the cost side, as you mentioned, we see that The wood is a little bit more expensive, but it mitigates of the fact that the construction time is shorter. So in our calculations, we see that it's the same as we have done before. But that's still on the writing board. So So we'll see what the product is. We'll see how it turns out, yes. And then we will move on to David Yehuda. Do you Any questions to ask? If so, you're welcome. David Yehuda, if you would like to ask questions, you can turn on your microphone. Now let's see if Mohnish Patel, did you have Any questions? If so, you're welcome to turn on your microphone. Okay. So there were no more analysts in the call. So thank you so much, Annika and Rudiger, for your presentation And answering all the questions. And good luck going forward. Thank you very much.