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Earnings Call: Q2 2019

Jul 19, 2019

Olof Grenmark
Director of Investor Relations, Boliden

2019 results presentation. My name is Olof Grenmark, and I'm Head of Investor Relations. Today, we will have a presentation led by our President and CEO, Mikael Staffas, and our CFO, Håkan Gabrielsson. Mikael, the stage is yours.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Thank you, Olof, good morning to all of you who are listening out there. I would like to go through this presentation this morning. What I will summarize is actually a relatively strong performance in the second quarter. I'll come back a little bit to that, even though we have had some issues and we are foreseeing some issues in our smelter division over the next quarter as well. To summarize this, the projects, if we start there, if we start with all the investments we're doing, we are reporting to you that the projects are all basically on plan and on budget. We had a relatively high CapEx number in the second quarter, but it's all in line with the guidance that we've been giving.

We've also had, I'll just mention this up front, we won't come back to that. Some of you probably already read in the back, we have a strong safety development right now, we're in a good position. We are reporting our best-ever LTI frequency as Boliden as a company. We also just can reaffirm that we have not had any environmental incidents whatsoever during this quarter. In mines, the production has been stable. We have good volumes basically everywhere, grades have declined, partially in line with the guidance we've been given, also some of that is more difficult to look at. In general, there's been a stable situation, especially in the Swedish mines. In the smelters, we have had big maintenance stops, as was guided for, especially in Harjavalta.

These maintenance stops ended up becoming more expensive and took a little bit longer than we thought. As I'll come back to a little bit later, that's also going to spill in over to Q3. We also have a one-off in this quarter, SEK 139 million of future reclamation costs in Rönnskär. As you know, we normally do not have provisions for reclamation in our smelters as these are eternal operations that will go on forever, these are certain areas that have to be reclaimed around 10 years from now, and we're therefore putting it in the reserve at this time. If you look over to the market, you know we'll come to the prices in a while, we can always read the prices, we know that we can sell everything that we produce at the market prices.

When we look into the market, we are seeing a decline in the global manufacturing. That's, of course, directly influencing our customers and thus indirectly us, although we're really seeing a challenge. This is especially the automotive sector that has been hit by this, which, of course, is mainly for us a zinc issue. We see a flat global zinc demand, which is a little bit different from years previously, where there was always a growth in the zinc demand, and especially as automotive that has a reduced demand that's playing into this. We will say that this is probably more of a cyclical thing and not anything that's long-term going to affect the demand for zinc. At least that's what we're seeing right now.

We have a solid or stable global copper demand growth. We see a solid global demand nickel growth as well, even though there's been some more nickel supply coming out of Indonesia and China. On the concentrate market, it's a bit of a different situation. On the zinc side, there are very high TCs, both in the benchmark terms and also in the spot terms that are coming to us. Whereas on the copper side, even though the benchmark is not affecting for us, since we have 12-month benchmarks, we can see that the spot benchmark or the spot price or spot TC for copper has come down significantly in the last couple of months. When we look into the price, here you see both the price, but you also see the inventories. You can see that prices have held up relatively well.

There's not a big movement in prices during the quarter. You can also see both on zinc, but especially on nickel, how the official inventories are coming down, which we see as a good thing for the development of the prices going forward. This is probably one of the reasons why the prices are holding up relatively well despite the weakness in demand as we saw before. On the other end, on the precious metals, especially gold, have been holding up very well in this time period. You can see here that the gold price has gone up. That's, of course, also helping us.

When you look at this graph that we show almost every quarter, when we look at the prices relative to the cost curve, the first thing that you see when looking at this is zinc, where you can see that the cost curves have come up significantly. What is behind this, of course, the increased zinc TCs that is a cost item for the miners. We also have lower silver prices over some time that is also affecting this cost to go up. We're also seeing some pure cost increases. As you can see, there's suddenly relatively strong basis for the zinc prices that were maybe previously a couple of quarters back seen to be very high. On the copper side, as you can see, it's a relatively stable development of cost in the global market. The prices are holding up well.

On nickel, it is still the situation, at least as is shown here, that you see the nickel price is down into the cost curves. We've, of course, seen recently just over the last week or so that nickel prices are heading up again, and maybe this is the lower inventories are helping up the nickel price into levels that is more sustainable long term than what we've seen in the last years. When we add all this and also add up the fact that we do have a favorable situation with our currencies, you can see that we are totally in a good level in terms of the market situation. All in all, when you put into that, even though the metal prices are more back onto the average level of about 100 on our own internal index. Looking into the mines, but just stopping on this picture first.

Here you see the first Komatsu truck that we have taken out of a total of 26 in our investment program that we're doing into both Kevitsa and Aitik. You know that out of these 26, roughly one-third is a replacement, roughly one-third is needed for the expansions that we're doing, and roughly one-third is due to insourcing that we're going to do, especially in Kevitsa. This project in itself is moving also on time, and as you see here, this is the delivery that we had a few weeks back of the first truck into Kevitsa. When you look into the mines, generally, you can say first, once again, that the projects are on plan, and we'll come back to that as we guide later, but both in Garpenberg, Aitik, and in Kevitsa, the projects are moving on as we have planned.

We have generally stable production, especially in the Swedish mines, but we have the lower grades. We have the lower metal prices and the higher zinc TCs that is really pushing down for lower prices and terms in the mining division. If you look at the production in total, you can see that copper is holding up relatively well, but on zinc you see that the lower grades are really affecting. You see that the throughput is very high, one of the top levels that we had. Also on the copper side, the throughput is relatively good, but the grades are coming down on zinc. On nickel, you see the step down, which is both a throughput issue in Kevitsa. As you know, we're in a kind of repositioning for the expansion that's coming in the years to come.

Also we had low grades, as we had guided for. We had especially low nickel grades in Kevitsa in the quarter. There's one item that doesn't affect the P&L, but we've done what we're putting in here, and it's affecting the balance sheet. We have a reclamation cost increase in Kevitsa of EUR 56 million that is coming into the balance sheet, and that will affect the depreciations going forward. This is partially planned, because partially it is that we're taking new land in use that we haven't used before, and then you need to put the provisions in place. It's also due to the fact that we've done a new plan for the decommissioning of Kevitsa that involves more landfill masses that we need to have. As you get them, they also become proportionally more expensive because there will be longer trucking distance at the decommissioning stage.

We're taking decommissioning very seriously. We've gone through Aitik last year and now Kevitsa, which are the two big mines. I think that we're now in a situation where we have reserves in our balance sheet which are very well reflecting on what the actual cost will be. As I've said before, as we talked about when we had the discussion about the dividends and extra dividends, it is very important that we do have the right number in our balance sheet with regards to decommissioning. On the smelter side, as I said, we've had some issues on the smelter side. The projects that we have both in Harjavalta and in Rönnskär are basically on plan, and we have improved process stability in Odda. We've had some minor disturbances in Kokkola. We're not quite there where we want to be in stability.

In Rönnskär is really needing its maintenance stop that is coming up now in Q3. The plant maintenance in Q2 ended up at SEK 315 million EBIT impact, which is about SEK 45 million higher than we had guided for. As you know, always when you do maintenance, you don't really know until you really take the furnaces offline exactly what needs to be done. We saw that there was more needed to be done, and it took slightly longer than we had expected in Harjavalta, especially during Q2. We then had the one-off SEK 139 million reclamation provision in Rönnskär. This is due to the fact that we're building now the leaching plant. We are getting the final permits around how we're taking these old inventories that we've had that we're going to leach.

Once these inventories are depleted, internal inventories, which will be somewhere 10 years from now, a little bit more, we will have to reclaim that land. Given the contamination in that land, it's a relatively expensive issue, and we have put that into the balance sheet. As this has nothing to do with future production, it comes straight to the P&L at this stage. For the smelters, the price and terms are actually pretty good, with the good FX effect and the high zinc TCs are helping out even though the metal prices are slightly lower. Talking about these maintenance stops, in Q2, as I said, we had SEK 45 million extra compared to what we had guided. The maintenance stopped two days longer than we had anticipated, and there were more things that needed to be done in the different parts.

For Q3, we are now guiding up SEK 150 million compared to what we guided for last quarter. We've had some disturbances in the nickel electric furnace in Harjavalta. We need to take that one down, or it is down for repair. That's estimated to be out for about four weeks. The copper line is not affected by this. I think it's important to point out that the big maintenance stop in Q2 in Harjavalta was the copper line. We did not have the nickel line, it's nothing that has to do with that the maintenance was done poorly in Q2 that we now need to redo. It is extra maintenance that had come up that we did not think would be necessary.

We also have some capacity constraints in Rönnskär up until we can do the stop in September as planned, which mean that we will lose some volume. It is the anode furnace that is not having full capacity. It will not get that until we have stopped for maintenance. That was also a little bit unfortunate. We thought that it would be able to run at full capacity all until the scheduled maintenance stop in September. All in all, this means that we will have SEK 675 million EBIT impact of the maintenance stops in smelters for the year. This is a very high level, especially compared to last year, although last year was a very low year. We knew already start of the year that this will be a high year. As you know, we work on a cycle and every fourth year is a big year.

This is one of those every fourth year, although it's now bigger than we had anticipated from the beginning. I don't think there's any reason to why this should become a higher norm going forward. I think that there's been some more one-offs this year. As you know, when we look back, we've been very good at predicting normally the impact from our maintenance stops. The smelter production on copper is, of course, severely down. As I said, the copper line was down in Harjavalta for the maintenance stop that really affected. There were also some process disturbances in Rönnskär. Zinc production is relatively fine. Some disturbances in Kokkola. On the other hand, we had record production in Odda, a little bit offsetting each other. The nickel line had a good production.

It had some maintenance stops that was affecting the nickel line in Harjavalta. It produced well according to plans in the quarter. Financials. Håkan, will you take us through the financials, please?

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

Thank you. Good morning. As you've seen, we've presented a result today with an EBIT excluding process inventories of SEK 1.6 billion. Excluding then the one-off costs that Mikael just talked about, this means that we're SEK 280 million down from Q1. That is basically due to lower grades and maintenance stops. CapEx SEK 2.1 billion. We're happy that all the projects are on plan. That also means that the numbers are on plan. We're heading for the full year guidance of just below SEK 8 billion for 2019. Net debt to equity increased to 14%. We shifted out SEK 3.5 billion to shareholders during the quarter in the form of dividends and redemption. That is to get back to our targeted capital structure.

Going into some more detail about comparing quarter-to-quarter and beginning with Q2 compared to Q2 of last year, you can see that we are SEK 700 million down. Prices and terms had a fairly limited impact on the results this quarter. Metal prices are down, that was compensated by stronger currencies. In addition, we have better zinc TCs, we have higher prices on byproducts, for example, sulfuric acid, leading up to a positive impact of SEK 100 million. Volumes, on the other hand, are down SEK 607 million. Grades in mines explain a bit more than SEK 600 million in total. We have lower grades in Tara. We had some stability issues that left the grades a bit lower than expected in Q2. As we've guided for, we have lower grades in Kevitsa and Aitik as well.

Maintenance stops and disturbances on the smelting side added another SEK -250 million to the result compared to last year. That was then compensated by positive deviations of about SEK 250 million, for example, in the form of a good inventory result, stronger metal production in mines, and higher recoveries. Going further down in the slide, you see that the costs increased by SEK 73 million compared to last year. That, I think is a good number. The SEK 73 million is entirely connected to the maintenance stops and the process disturbances we've had in smelters. We are basically talking Rönnskär and Harjavalta. The remaining units are flat or even down on costs. I would say that the cost control in the underlying business is strong. Continuing with a comparison of Q2- Q1 this year, sequentially.

As I said earlier on, excluding the one-off items, we are SEK 280 million down. The maintenance stops explains SEK 300 million. You can see those numbers are a part of the volume here and part of the cost. We had an additional SEK 300 million down due to grades, which was then again compensated by better inventory results, better recoveries, and better metal production. Prices helped us with SEK 100 million, basically on this slide you see the same underlying reasons and almost identical bullets. We're talking about grades and maintenance in principle. Moving on to cash flow. Stronger than Q1, of course, down from last year due to a lower EBITDA and higher CapEx levels. We released some working capital, roughly half a billion, cash flow from investment was SEK 2.1 billion, we also had slightly higher tax payments in this quarter.

As you may have seen on the balance sheet, we still have about SEK 400 million short-term tax liabilities, we will catch up on the tax payments also a bit during the second half of the year. Looking at the balance sheet and the capital structure, net debt is SEK 5.5 billion, corresponding to a 14% net debt-to-equity ratio. If you add back the net reclamation reserve to make it comparable to our financial targets, that means another SEK 2 billion and a ratio of 19%, which is then in line with our targets. Balance sheet targets. We also talked about in the report briefly that we issued SEK 750 million of bonds in the quarter. It was a high interest from the market, we're happy with that process. We ended up with a five-year bond and a 1.45% interest margin.

That bond issue also lifts the loan duration to 3.9 years. We have slightly longer average loan duration at this time. Average interest rate is still very competitive at 1.2%, and a net payment capacity after the dividend payments of 7.2 billion SEK, which is where we want to be at this time in the business cycle. We also added an EBIT sensitivity breakdown by business area. We normally report this as a group total in the quarterly report every quarter, every now and then we publish a breakdown by business area to make the modeling a bit easier. I'm not going to comment this further today, you see we've got it in the pack here. Mikael, would you like to conclude?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

I will conclude, also talk a little about going forward, where there's also not much change. The guiding for Aitik is the same as we said before. It's 45 million tonnes next year, the grades for this year is about 0.25. I'm sure I'm going to get a question, is that for the whole year or for the rest of the year? I'm going to say that you can calculate whichever way you want to, it's within the ± 10% margin of error. Garpenberg, we're also sticking to the guidance of 4% and 3 million tonnes milled volume next year.

Kevitsa, we are also saying that for the rest of this year, we will be below the reserve grades in terms of grades, but the project for the nine and a half million tonne pace in the end of next year, meaning in reality that we will have full speed by 2021, is very much on track. In Tara, we had the rock stability issues in Q2, which meant that we had to go to lower grade stopes to keep the volumes up, the volumes have been pretty good, as you can see. Some of this will spill over into Q3 as well, we at least plan to be back on to work on our normal stopes, which means that we're back on grade plan average, even before the end of the Q3. The Swedish diesel tax is not new. We talked about it before.

We will have an increased annualized cost of SEK 120 million due to this, starting from August 1st. The maintenance, you had a separate slide on that before around how that will work out, the CapEx guidance is unchanged at close to SEK 8 billion. Just a reminder that if I've said something that I'm not supposed to say, I haven't said it. I think we will open up for questions.

Olof Grenmark
Director of Investor Relations, Boliden

Ladies and gentlemen, that opens up our Q2 2019 Q&A session. Operator, we're ready for questions, please.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you do have a question for the speakers, please press zer one on your telephone keypad and you will enter the queue. Once again, if you do have a question, please press zero one on your telephone keypad. Our first question comes from the line of Krishan Agarwal from Citigroup. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Krishan Agarwal
Analyst, Citigroup

Hi. Thanks a lot for taking my question. My question is basically on the smelting cost. The number you have given in the report is implying a close to 15% year-on-year increase in the second quarter 2019. If I were to look at the first half 2019 number, the year-on-year increase is running somewhere between 10%. Can you comment as in what is driving this significant increase versus last year? If second quarter run rate is a better reflection for the third quarter and the fourth quarter, should we assume that kind of an increase to sustain for the rest of the year?

Second question on, Mikael has touched upon a little bit on that, on copper TCs that you have 12-month benchmark contract settlement, there has been a recent talk about one of the competitors settling a lower TC settlement with the Chinese smelters. That's sort of a 20% decline versus the 2019 benchmark. Is that something we should factor in for the next year estimates? What's your thoughts around that? Thanks a lot.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

I can start with your second question, and then I'll leave the costs over to Håkan. Regarding the copper TCs, you're making the right comment. We have annualized copper benchmark, which means that we are not affected by the recent developments. As you pointed out, there has been lower settlements for the six-month TCs. Of course, this is in some way an indication that the TCs might be heading south as we're coming into the annual negotiations in the fall. Of course, lots of things may happen between now and the fall. I think it's too early to tell exactly where they will come out. That would be my comment regarding that.

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

Yeah. Looking at the cost for smelting, if you exclude the currency movement and so on and look at the cost that we have reported in the EBIT bridges, the increases that you see compared to Q2 last year and also to Q1 is entirely connected to maintenance. It's the actual maintenance cost that we've seen in Harjavalta. It's also what Mikael talked about, that we are in need of maintenance in Rönnskär. We have slightly higher consumption of consumables up until then, which is then mid Q3. The cost increases that you do see is connected to maintenance. Having said that means that I don't expect any such increases in Q4 and going forward. We see an inflation rate right now which is quite low, let's say 1% or something in that vicinity.

In addition, we've been able to take actions to reduce costs to compensate that. Underlying, we feel that we're in a very good position cost-wise.

Krishan Agarwal
Analyst, Citigroup

Okay. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Liam Fitzpatrick from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Liam Fitzpatrick
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Morning, everyone. Three questions from me. First two on the smelters. Firstly, on the TCs, I was surprised at how low the TC profit uplift was in Q2, given what the zinc TC did. I think you said for Q1 that only reflected one month of the new TC terms for zinc. If you could just give us a bit of color on that point. Secondly, on the smelters, do you have a feel for maintenance levels in 2020? Should we see a material drop versus where we are for 2019? Third and final question on CapEx, do you have any more sort of guidance on what sort of figure or range we could be looking at for 2020? Thank you.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

I'll start from the back again, I'll leave to Håkan towards the end. Regarding the CapEx 2020, we do not have a guidance. We don't have anything to say other than what we said at the Capital Markets Day, at the Capital Markets Day, we said that unless we come with some new great projects, you should see a significant decline for 2020. We have not yet this year announced any major CapEx project, the year is not over yet. Thus, we do not have a CapEx guidance. Regarding smelter maintenance, yes, you should see a significant drop till next year, even though we don't have the details, that is, as I said before, we do have a cycle where basically every second year is a high maintenance and every second year is a low maintenance year.

Out of those high maintenance years, every second of those is higher than the other one. Next year should be a low maintenance year. Compared to this year, it should be significantly lower. Exactly where we will come back to. Regarding the zinc TCs and impact, Håkan?

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

Yeah, compared to Q1, we have an impact of about SEK 100 million in total for smelters. That is, of course, a combination of all the metals that we have. There is a larger impact there on zinc, it is a function of the amount of spot sales, et cetera, during the quarter. All in all, we're landing at SEK 92.

Liam Fitzpatrick
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Sorry, Håkan, if I could just follow up briefly on that point. In your own presentation pack, you give the sensitivity for a 10% move in TCs. The TC terms went up 67%. I still can't square why the TC uplift was as small as it was.

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

Well, firstly, as you said, there were some parts of it that were already in the Q1 numbers. We've also had negative impacts during the quarter of a couple of the other metals that brings down the average.

Liam Fitzpatrick
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Major from UBS. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Daniel Major
Analyst, UBS

Hi there. First question from me on Tara. In the past you've had rock instability issues, seems to be a sort of recurring theme. Can you make any comments about the sort of changes in the ore body as you're moving deeper and whether this is more of a recurring issue? The second question on Tara, if I run spot zinc price, the asset looks reasonably marginal and given the potential growth in supply and zinc, if prices were to move lower, it certainly looks it's not impossible for the asset to become free cash flow negative. Can you give us an indication where the current cash flow breakeven of Tara is in terms of zinc pricing? That's the first question. Thanks.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Okay. I can start with that. Regarding the rock instability that you point out, we've seen that throughout the times, and of course, as we get lower and get into deeper levels, that it becomes an issue that is more prevalent. I can't say that it's going to happen much more going forward, but it is an issue that we will always have there. I'll also make the point that we have not lost any stopes. The rock stability is just that we have delayed mining of them, and we have gone to reserve stopes at lower grades instead. That's just to point out that we should still have the same reserve average because of this. We're not losing reserve.

Regarding where Tara is, of course, when you look at Tara at the normal kind of levels that we have and the lower normal kind of grades, then we do have a pretty good position, and we're still pretty far away from the cash flow breakeven point in Tara. I don't know exactly when we will publish that number. Håkan, maybe you know exactly what the cash cost number of when we publish that one. Tara is on a relatively good position on the cash cost curve. There will be many other mines that will start sweating before Tara.

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

We typically come back to that in the annual report. It's a while going forward.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Yes.

Daniel Major
Analyst, UBS

Okay, thanks. Maybe the second question, just to push you a little bit on your comments around CapEx. I understand you don't want to give a guidance, you're saying CapEx will go down if you don't approve any projects. Can you give us any sense of whether you actually got pending projects that could be approved or any indication around that are projects that we're not aware of that could be approved? Can you give us any more detail around that to give us some confidence on our estimates of CapEx for 2020?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Well, we gave some sense to it in the capital markets day. Electrification is an area that we have not yet approved. We have only the test line in Aitik, 700 meters. That's an area that could be approved, of course, given what has happened with the diesel tax in Sweden, the economics of these investments look better, but we're not quite there from an engineering point of view to okay them yet, we'll come back to that. We also said that we have in several smelters, we have different types of debottlenecking or expansion discussions ongoing, but none of them are ready for presentation yet. Those were some of the examples that were given. We've also spoken, but that's probably not a 2020 issue. We've spoken about the Revliden extension of the Kristineberg mine as something that is also coming up.

Daniel Major
Analyst, UBS

Okay, great. I can interpret that as there are projects, it's just a question of timing as to when they're approved and if they fall into capital spend in 2020 or 2021 is kind of what we should be thinking about. Is that right?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Yeah. There are things that we're working with, we will, of course, be prudent before we approve projects, that we make sure that they are very good.

Daniel Major
Analyst, UBS

Okay, thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Luke Nelson from JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Luke Nelson
Analyst, JPMorgan

Yeah, morning, guys. Apologies. Just going to tackle a variant of the CapEx question again, more to do around the grade profile and the capital intensity required to maintain output at similar levels. Obviously, you do have throughput coming through at some key operations in mines, you are also mining above reserve grades. Is there any sort of updated expectations you can give us around the sort of medium-term grade profile and potentially the sort of capital or cost that might be required to either maintain grades at where they are or expectations around the sort of reduction towards reserve grade? Second question, just a modeling question in terms of inventory levels, how are they at the end of the quarter heading into Q3?

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

Shall I start with the inventories?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

You can start with inventories, yes.

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

Inventories were very low in the beginning of the year, and at this point in time, they are pretty much normal. The finished metal inventories are a bit lower than average, but that's the smaller part value-wise. For modeling, I would calculate with the normal inventory levels, both if you plan to modeling the cash flow and also if you plan to model the internal profits, so normal inventory levels.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

If I go to your other question and talk about, if I understand it right, what kind of CapEx is needed to keep the grade profile, and I think that that's a question that I cannot answer, and I will not answer, and it's maybe also not exactly where we look at it. We have the assets that we have. They have a grade profile. They will decline, and for the underground mines, they will head slowly towards the average, and for the open pits, they will circle around the average, and we spoke a lot about that before. We are investing about SEK 600 million per year in something which not even investment, it's all costed, which is our exploration.

Of course, the goal of the exploration is both to find higher grades that will help us in our mines to offset the grade decline and also to find more volume. As you know, exploration is an area where it's difficult to promise exact results, but thus far we have been able to get good results from exploration, and that's where it comes. Comes the question, okay, will we find something that's high-grade that will also require some CapEx on top of that? That's way too early to tell.

Luke Nelson
Analyst, JPMorgan

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gustaf Sveurin from Pareto Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Gustaf Sveurin
Analyst, Pareto Securities

Hi, thanks for that. Three quick questions from my side. Firstly, on the throughput in Garpenberg for Q2. Now with the first two quarters of the year, I think the run rate is just over 2.8. Is this a reasonable number for the year? Is the throughput actually according to plan, or are we ahead of schedule in the ramp-up? Secondly, if you can give any more guidance on the sort of average grade levels in Tara for Q3. Lastly, how you see cost inflation for consumables now in the coming quarters. Thank you.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Okay. I can start with the throughput in Garpenberg and say that that's according to plan, well according to plan, just to keep a good word around that. Regarding the cost sides, Håkan.

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

I didn't quite hear the question, but just talking generally about cost. In the beginning of 2018, we saw quite a significant price increase. If you compare to numbers older than that, we have had inflation. Now this quarter, we've come out of that period. Overall inflation in our estimates is about 1% for purchases and normal salary increases. I would describe current inflation levels as fairly low. We don't see a tremendous inflationary pressure. Also, on the cost numbers that we reported today, more or less every cost increase that we have in the EBIT bridges is related to maintenance and not inflation. We've got actions to sort of push down the underlying costs. I think we are in a good position. There is good cost control, relatively low inflation, and we feel confident about the cost levels.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

I can talk about the grades in Tara and just say, we don't, of course, comment on individual quarters. The only thing I can say is the general thing that hadn't we said anything else, you would look at the grade or the reserve average, we have said that at least in the beginning of the quarter, we have had some issues. You will have to prudently in Q3 take that a notch down, you should of course have a number that's higher than what we had in Q2.

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

Yeah.

Gustaf Sveurin
Analyst, Pareto Securities

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Olaf Söderberg from Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Olaf Söderberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yes, hello and good morning. A follow-up question on the smelters. Is it possible to quantify how much the higher degree of consumables and consumable cost you need at Rönnskär before the maintenance stopped? Just in order to get a grasp of the underlying earnings.

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

I think that we talk about roughly an extra cost in the vicinity of SEK 40 million-SEK 50 million per quarter, and then we talk about a part of the third quarter then.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Yeah.

Olaf Söderberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, that's great. On Aitik, are you still on track to reach 42 million tons at Aitik for this year?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

The 42 million tons has never been guided for. It's a number that is coming from somewhere else. We are on track for the 45 million tons next year.

Olaf Söderberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Oskar Lindström from Danske Bank . Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Oskar Lindström
Analyst, Danske Bank

Hi. Three questions from me. First off on Aitik, you're continuing to guide for 2025 for the full year. Should we really expect a sharp decline in H2? My second question is on cost inflation. You say that you don't see any tremendous inflation pressure going forward and say you're quite sort of confident in the current levels. Does that include the increased cost for diesel as a result of the tax? Just my third question is on the Rönnskär and Kevitsa reclamations. Is that a result of any change in policy, perhaps from your side? Should we expect more similar reclamation actions in other units?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Let me take some of these first. If we start in the end again with the reclamation, I think you should look at the Kevitsa one in line with the one we had in Aitik 12 months back. They are the biggest units we have. They are the ones that are going to have the biggest reclamation cost. The underground mines are so much cheaper than the surface mines. We have now done full studies that I commissioned when I got in of these two. Hopefully we should not see big movements of this for a while. You can say that before this time, the studies that we had based our reclamations were too old and not really done up to modern standards. That's there. I think the answer is that you should not really expect because of that. The one on Rönnskär is a different story.

Here you can say that we've had an accounting principle that we don't have any reclamation reserves in smelters because they're going on forever. We've also looked into here and said that regarding these specific areas and these specific places, that is not prudent because we will have to do reclamation, even if Rönnskär continues forever, we will have to do reclamation because they're a little bit on the side of Rönnskär, even though they're on the industrial site, they're not really into the operational areas. We don't really have similar situation in other smelters, even though we will look into that as well and see whether there's something else there where we have not been prudent enough in looking through that we have operations that are actually not eternal, but are actually more short-term cited. I don't think that there are very much of them.

That's on the reclamation side. On the Aitik grades, it is, as I said, when I present it's a little bit difficult to tell, and you should know that all our guidance that we have on grades is always with a ± 10% to it. We will see a decline, it will come down. We will, for the whole year, be within 25 ± 10%, and we will be lower in Q3 and Q4 than what we were in Q2. Exactly where you will have to guess yourself. Regarding the cost inflation, I can just say quickly that the diesel tax is not included in the inflation. That's a separate item that goes outside. I don't know, you can just reiterate, Håkan, that apart from that, we are confident, right?

Håkan Gabrielsson
CFO, Boliden

Yes. Correct. In the inflation number, tax is not included.

Oskar Lindström
Analyst, Danske Bank

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Amos Fletcher from Barclays. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Amos Fletcher
Analyst, Barclays

Yeah, morning, gents. Just one question. Actually, most of mine have been answered already. Around your exposure to spot TC/RCs in copper in particular. Of the external concentrate that you purchase, can you just remind us of how much, or what percentage of that is sourced on spot versus contract? Thank you.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Well, we typically say that we have roughly 15% of our sourcing on spot, and that's a kind of good benchmark number to use. 85% benchmark and 50% spot, and that mix is a good mix to use, I should say.

Amos Fletcher
Analyst, Barclays

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Christian Kopfer from Nordea. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Thanks, operator. Thanks for taking my questions. Sorry, I cannot just let you go on the guidance for Aitik. I am a little bit puzzled that you keep the guidance, to be honest. If you look for 2018, you also guided for 0.25, and it ended up, I think, 16% above, which is really outside the ±10% for the full year. Just keeping the guidance for the sake of keeping it seems a little bit strange to me. Is this really your best guess for the full year to be at 0.25? That means that you really expect that Mikael, you said you can put in your numbers yourself, what is your best guess? Is it that you should come down to 0.22 and 0.23 for the remainder of the year?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

We don't want to look at individual quarters because you know that there is an up and down factor of that, it is clearly not going to be 0.27.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Sorry, say again, Mikael, I didn't get that.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

I said we don't like to guide for individual quarters, we like to guide for longer terms. But if you look at the quarters in the fall, three and four, it's not going to be 0.27, which what we've seen is going to head down. I know that the guidance last year was too conservative. I think that this year, even this far, you can say that the 27.5 that we have right now, that's the 10% above, and we will creep into this to be inside and closer than 10% to the average by the end of the year.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

You were guiding on specific quarters last year, I remember. You can go back into the presentation material and have a look, because then you said the specific quarters will be on a specific grade. You have been guiding on specific quarters.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

This year we choose not to. There is also a reason why we don't do this, and that's because we are a little bit in a situation right now where we have very high grades still in the bottom of the pit, and we have quite low grades in the S3 pushback, and we have quite low grades right now in Salmijärvi. Thus, if we for different reasons choose to have a different mix and for all kind of reasons and without going into too much detail, we did have a problem with the ramp in Salmijärvi during Q2, which meant that we took more than we had planned from the bottom. Therefore you can say that we've a little bit depleted the options in the bottom, and therefore we had the 0.27.

Exactly how this works out in Q3 and Q4, I will not really go into details around that. It's easier, of course, if we were to have three places that we're mining and they're all roughly the same grade, then it would be easy. We're mining at three different places with three very different grades. Thus the mix will play.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Okay. Do you expect the recovery ratio to come up? Do you expect the recovery ratio to come up in Aitik in the coming quarters?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Yes. We expect it to come up. The lower recovery ratio is due to the S3 pushback that we're working on, and that is still close to the surface and has more oxidized ore. That we're slowly coming down in S3, and that should then take care of that problem.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Around 90% is fair number, right?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Around 90%.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Is the target.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

A fair number for the target.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Yeah. Okay. For the full year volumes for Aitik, you said that you have not guided for it, but the head of mines have really guided for it. It was very clear that he expected 42 million tonnes for 2019, it has been on the Capital Markets Day that's official, I guess.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Yeah. It's a number that has been mentioned, but we're working.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Yeah, the head of mines has said. The head of Aitik has mentioned it, so it's not just one guy in the firm.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

No, it's a number that has been mentioned.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Okay. Yeah.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Yes, Christian.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

You can't comment on it, I mean.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

No, I can say that we did the 20 and some in the first half, right? To get 42, we need to do 22 and a little bit less to get there. We have a summer quarter and a winter quarter to reach that. Will we make that? Well, we still have a budget that says that, can I say exactly where we're going to be? I don't know.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Okay, fine. Then on Garpenberg, sorry if I missed it, what is driving improved grades for the remainder of the year in Garpenberg?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

No, Garpenberg is always going up and down, and you can see that we had 3.8 now in the last quarter, and then four?

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Yeah.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

That's all due to scheduling of individual stopes. Here, there was not really anything else. You can say that for different reasons we were slightly lower grade stopes and we are heading to higher grade stopes for the end of the year. That's why we're standing at the four for the average.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Okay. Then for Kiirunvaara finally, you expect grades to be meaningfully higher for next year, right?

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Yes. We have only guided for this year and said that they're going to be meaningfully lower than the reserve average, and then for 2020 and forward, we haven't guided anything else. The reserve average is a good thing to go, which is of course lower than they were in 2018 when we had much higher than the reserve average.

Christian Kopfer
Analyst, Nordea

Right. Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. If you do have any remaining questions, it's zero one on your telephone keypad to register. Our next question comes from the line of Jatinder Goel from Exane BNP Paribas. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Jatinder Goel
Analyst, Exane BNP Paribas

Hi, good morning. Just a question on grades, not on 2019 as a relief. On your comments about open pit being around reserve grade and underground gradually moving towards it and focusing on just Aitik and Garpenberg. How long will it take for Garpenberg to get to reserve grade? Is it a five-year timeline or longer that we're looking at? And for Aitik from 0.25- 0.22, how long is that journey? Is that two years timeline or would you expect a switch to reserve grade? That's been your guidance in the absence of anything else, but is it realistic that you get to 0.22 next year? Thank you.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

I will answer these in general statements without going into too much detail. If you take an underground mine like Garpenberg that has a 35-year life of mine plan and has an average for the 35 years, of course you will always, when you do your mine planning, look to get the higher ones before, and then you will have lower in the end. You will mine above reserve average almost all the time. What happens when you take in the better areas, then your reserve average also goes down. In an underground mine, you tend to mine always above reserve average, and then reserve average goes down unless exploration or other things can help you and get that up. Given that we have a 35-year time horizon in Garpenberg, it's not going to go down to reserve average very fast.

It will be above, but heading down, but above for quite some time. Regarding the open pits, it's a shorter time cycle. I usually say this generally that you could say we have very good grades if you go back to years 2010, 2011. We had a couple of years of pretty bad grades, and now we've had for 2016, 2017 or 2017, 2018, 2019, we've had good grades again. We will be heading down. Maybe the cycle in a mine like Aitik is like a 10-year cycle. It may say it takes about five years to go or five, six years, maybe a little more than 10-year cycle. It takes five, six, seven years to go from a good year to a bad year, and then about the same time to go up again. Just to have a sense of the orders of magnitude.

Jatinder Goel
Analyst, Exane BNP Paribas

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. As there are no more questions registered, I now hand back to our speakers for any closing comments.

Mikael Staffas
President and CEO, Boliden

Thank you all. I wish you all a very good summer, and I wish you all the best, and I look forward to seeing you all again in about three months when we report the third quarter. Thank you all.