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Earnings Call: Q2 2020

Aug 19, 2020

Operator

Hello, welcome to the Catena Media Audiocast with Teleconference Q2 2020. Throughout the call, all participants will be in a listen-only mode, and afterwards, there will be a question and answer session. Just to remind you, this conference call is being recorded. Today, I'm pleased to present CEO, Per Hellberg, and CFO, Peter Messner. Please go ahead with your meeting.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Thank you. Good morning, welcome to Catena Media's second quarter presentation. To present for today is me and Peter Messner, which you will see on the next slide, please. During the day, we will go through a couple of events. If you change to the next slide, please, you view the agenda, where you will see that we will start with the quarterly highlights in terms of numbers, followed by a business update. From that on, I will hand over to Peter Messner, CFO, who will run through all the financially related information, and in the end, I will come back and talk about the strategy and outlook going forward, and then after that, summarize the meeting and take questions from that on. Next slide, please.

Well, as we already sent out some time ago in a trading update, we were able to record a very nice result for this quarter. In fact, we managed to grow quite considerably compared to Q1. We grew the revenues by 4%, but also the adjusted EBITDA by 15%. A nice trend there quarter-on-quarter. If we go to the next slide, you will see that if we break down this compared to the previous year, you will see that revenues grow an all-time high of 17% growth and EUR 27.8 million. Of that, EUR 25.8 million was search-related revenue, meaning own-created through search engines, and remaining was by paid revenue, meaning the performance marketing-related revenues. Also, that grew by 28%, actually, we spend less money on performance marketing, generated more by own search-related traffic, which is very positive.

It was also an all-time high for us in terms of search revenue, and so was also the adjusted EBITDA numbers of €14.8 million, which is a growth of 56% compared to previous year. If you look at the margin we managed to put together, was 53% compared with 40% last year. All in all, a very positive quarter for us. Next slide, please. What is the underlying factors to achieve that? Well, first of all, I would like to start to say this was a very unusual and challenging quarter. Challenging in a way that the pandemic we all experienced made it very hard to predict how we should operate our business and how we should judge the incoming traffic and make sure that we optimize the monetization from that.

During the close-down, we saw a lot of traffic increases, but a lot of that increase was not high-value traffic, meaning that we need to be quite instrumental in the way how we make sure that we find the right kind of customers and send them to the right kind of operator in order to maximize their revenues during this time as well. We took a quite early decision to be quite aggressive in the setup to manage this, to move away from offices and establish home operations that we are still running and plan to do so for quite some while, and really use all the data we gathered to make sure that we conduct as thoughtful business as possible during this time.

Of course, each month was different from the other, meaning that we need to change a lot of times, and that's probably what we need to do also going forward, considering what the pandemic is playing towards us right now. All in all, we could see as sports shut down, we could see a quite dramatic increase of casino opportunities, especially in April and May, when most of the world was shut down. We saw a very strong increase here from U.S., which I'm coming back to a bit later.

In April and May, obviously recorded, but only to start to go down to more normal levels again in the end of the quarter as June also meant that a lot of markets opened up and people went out from lockdown into the normal world and prioritized friends, families, and other things rather than maybe sometimes sitting at home playing casino. That meant that June became more of a traditional casino month for us compared with the very peak ones in April and June. We saw also during this time as sports shut down, but we saw a gradual increase still, of course, in terms of the volume. It's still not back to Level 3 at all. It's also quite different seasonality in sports events compared what we're used to. That means that the revenue build-up is quite different compared with previously.

If you look at the operational highlights, obviously, as already mentioned, record both in revenues, organic search revenues, and profits. Casino segment was the real driver with a majority of our income, 76% coming from that, which Peter will talk more about later. Not only from the U.S., we saw all-time high numbers in AskGamblers. We saw it also in the Japanese markets, while the main European ones were also up, but not as much as we saw here. The reason is that Japan is always a bit different and will have a continuous growth trajectory there. The U.S., I already mentioned, as a lot of casinos shut down land-based. We saw a lot of increased demand for casino over there.

Of course, AskGamblers has a quite global footprint, and we're able to take our traffic from pretty much anywhere in the world where we saw increased demand. In terms of U.S., already mentioned, it was all-time high, driven by More or less, almost. As you know, we had quite low business in the U.S. for sports, as we know, as very few leagues were running. Nevertheless, we continued to invest quite much in driving our business. We already said many times that regardless of this and the strategies we have put in place, we continue to run investment in core future growth markets like the U.S., Asia, and Latin America. In the quarter, we launched our BettingPro product, a sports product into Latin America to prepare that for the future.

We also continued investments in staff, predominantly in the U.S., to prepare for new states to open up within 12- 18 months from now. Something that was picked up and also we saw in our numbers, that was in May, we saw what in this industry is quite a big Google update, which in some cases didn't impact any sites at all. In some cases, it had a positive impact, but in some cases it also had a negative impact. That went for us as well. When that happens, you need to realize that not all traffic that is being impacted is negative. It can be traffic that is of very low value. We, however, had some sites that were impacted, and those we need to start repair work on. Going back up again because of that.

Some sites like, for example, AskGamblers, had a traffic drop of 30%. After this, it's a combination of Google update, but also the fact that markets started to open up, so that the peak was getting a bit less active after the peak of COVID. It didn't have a lot of impact to revenues as we managed to contract all-time high for AskGamblers in the quarter, and since then it's continuing on a good trend. All in all, I think it was extremely challenging, but we managed it in style, and I'm really happy about what the team were able to deliver. I will come back a bit more later about some details about U.S. and then also about the outlook going forward. Before that, I hand over to Peter Messner, who will run through the financial update.

Peter Messner
CFO, Catena Media

Thank you very much, Per, good morning from my end as well. We can switch to the next slide in order to show our revenue growth and go a little bit into the details of what Per already started to explain. What you see in the second quarter is, as mentioned, an all-time high in our search revenue, which translated into an overall all-time high of our revenue growth, primarily driven by casino. That is a phenomenon that you see on the right-hand side in our New Depositing Customers chart, with a decline in comparison to the first quarter of this year, where there's still a year-over-year growth of 4%.

The main reason for that is, of course, that the sports segment, which you will then later on see, has not really had the chance to get a lot of New Depositing Customers into, given the lack of sports. Casino, on the other hand, was very much able to deliver these high-value customers, and the monetary value of a casino customer is much, much higher than that of a sports customer. The combination of the lack of sports, the shift during the quarter to casino, and the higher value of casino is in its totality explaining why we have record revenues in that quarter, while we still have a decline of the New Depositing Customers in comparison to the first quarter. That, of course, was an expected trend, again, particularly because of the sports development and the lack of sports. If we can switch to the next slide.

On the segment performance, you see exactly the same results. Casino had, during this second quarter, a share of total revenues of 76%. It was in the previous year, 56%. Sports had a share of 18%, which was particularly low. Naturally, as a result of the lack of sports. During the last year, it had a share of 38%, and our financial services segment has been stable in this total setup of a share in total revenues of 6%. When we take a look at the lower part of that chart, the way how we generate revenues based on the deal set up with our customers, the operators, then we have revenue share deals where we get paid for acquiring new customers or leads, the cost per acquisition or a hybrid of that.

We have certain fixed fees income as well, and subscription revenue, which is only in the financial services segment. What you see in comparison to the previous year, the numbers are in brackets, is the revenue share as an overall share has decreased. In the same way, the CPA, the cost per acquisition share of total revenue Per explained before, all the 900+ land-based casinos have been closed at one point during this quarter. The interest for online casino has been extremely high. Our U.S. business is primarily a CPA-based business, so that impact was naturally reflected here in the total numbers. If we can switch to the next slide, then. When we take a look at the cost development resulting then in our EBITDA or adjusted EBITDA numbers, and then we saw a few items.

On the first side, as Per already mentioned, we increased our margin to 53% during this quarter in comparison to 40% during the last year. The main drivers, as you see in that glitch on the right-hand side, has been our decreased spending in direct costs, which also was a result of the lack of sports. There is quite a lot of pay-per-click investments usually in the sports area when it comes to acquiring specific keywords, and due to the general situation in the second quarter, that investment naturally wouldn't have paid off, so we didn't do that. On the other hand, we have the general strategic trend that's also already explained in previous quarters from a quite heavy PPC and therefore direct cost related business as we still had during the last year to a more organic-based revenue generating business.

We still do and evaluate, of course, direct cost investments and PPC investments, but not in the same extent as it has been before. That attributed to the overall EBITDA growth. On the personnel side, we had a slight increase in personnel in comparison to the last year, which is also not surprising given that we are increasing and growing business, and particularly taking a look at those areas where we wish to further strengthen our staffing, which is primarily in the U.S. market. On the other operating expenses, that's part of our total cost base, but also positively in that respect, impacted by the situation in the second quarter. There was a lot of spending that was heavily reduced in relation to marketing. Again, driven also by the lack of sports events, SEO and other freelancing and outsourcing costs, and recruitment costs.

We have been fairly low during the first half-year on that side when it comes to the personnel, given the uncertainty in the market, but you can expect that we will go back to the uncertainty we now have in the second quarter to continue our investments, as Per previously mentioned, in those areas where we see the growing market potentials. That is primarily in the U.S. business and Japan, this is generally in technical product areas, where we see we can further innovate on our products. On the chart up there on the right-hand side on the cost developments, the total cost ratio, where the total cost here is the summary of our other operating expenses, personnel expenses, and the direct cost, has been going down to a level of 47% of total revenues. It has been 60% during the last year, which was exceptionally high.

I think in the first quarter, we had around 52%. You can expect this overall percentage to go up now again in the second quarter, again, in the second half of the year. The second quarter was primarily lower on the explained reasons of the impact of the pandemic and selected sports. Of course, we will manage that in line with our increasing business and the revenue trends that we see. If we can switch to the next slide. The profit for the quarter, putting all of this together, and I am sure there are certain questions out there why we report a negative EPS, earnings per share. Let me explain that. Coming from an adjusted EBITDA that we reported of EUR 14.8 million, we had roughly EUR 1.7 million in adjustments, to arrive at a EBITDA number of EUR 13 million.

The adjustments related to credit facilities, but in particular to the refinancing related costs. Those were cost items that were not directly related to the issuance of our new hybrid capital securities, therefore they are running through the P&L, but are non-recurring in nature. Depreciation and amortization has been on a similar or same level as in previous quarters as well. Then from EBIT to our profit. Apart from the interest payable on our borrowings, which has been the existing bonds of EUR 150 million, the main item that you see here on the right-hand side, the EUR 14.9 million, are other losses on the financial liability at fair value. This is a fair market value movement, primarily driven EUR 14.4 million out of this EUR 14.9 million for the revaluation of our existing bonds.

Let me explain that a little bit, because during the first quarter, we reported a profit on that fair market value movement. That was the result of, at the end of the first quarter, due to the uncertainty in the market, the market value, the market price of our bonds has considerably decreased. We considered a fair market profits during that time, but I believe I already mentioned that you could expect exactly the opposite during this quarter, especially because the certainty in the market, to a certain extent, came back. On the other hand, there was no certainty around our refinancing as we now concluded that. The result has been a revaluation of the fair market value where the market price went up again, translating into a EUR 14.4 million loss. Unrealized, I have to say, in our books, this is an accounting item.

Taking that all the way down to our profit, that meant the profit has been a loss for the quarter of minus EUR 7.8 million. Then translating into negative EPS. If you take the EUR 14.4 million just as a calculation exercise out of that equation, that profit turns into roughly almost a similar amount on the profit side. Again, this is an unrealized loss. It is due to IFRS reporting standards related to fair market valuation loss. You should not expect such a swing anymore given that we have the certainty with the refinancing now in our books. Can we go to the next slide now? All right. When it comes to our statement of financial position or our balance sheet, we have total assets amounting to EUR 406.3 million.

The main part of that, and there is no change to previous quarters, are our intangible assets related to our trademarks, our domains, our customer relations, customer databases, and so forth. Cash and cash equivalents is important to mention. We had a cash balance at the end of the second quarter of EUR 82.6 million, out of which EUR 57 million are the proceeds of the rights issuance, and we will come to that in a slide or in two slides to explain a little bit more in detail. On the equity and liabilities side, the borrowings are, during the second quarter, continuously the existing bonds that we not yet at that point in time have repaid, but we did so during the middle of July with a third, as announced.

On the equity side, out of the EUR 224.2 million of equity, that includes EUR 67.4 million in a new line in our balance sheet, which are the hybrid capital securities as part of our rights issue and refinancing process. Again, I will explain that a little bit more in detail in two slides, I believe. Let us switch to the next slide. On the cash and debt, what you see is that we continued our trend in a very positive way of our operating cash flow of EUR 17.4 million during the quarter. Again, as I mentioned, the cash balance at the end of the quarter was EUR 82.6 million, with the main part of that being due to the rights issuance of our hybrid capital securities. We had a cash conversion of 134%, that is worth to mention.

We particularly took early efforts when the pandemic was arriving already at the end of the first quarter to make sure that we do not run into any issues on bad spots. Therefore, a lot of focus has been put on an accounts receivable perspective into collecting cash, which also has been pushing to a certain extent, these balances during the second quarter. Our net interest-bearing debt, which is our borrowings at nominal value, net of our cash position, has been at an amount of EUR 84.9 million, which then translated into the respective leverage ratio of 1.68, which is also where we are now our long-term target of staying below 1.75. Let's switch to the next slide.

This slide is very comprehensive, and the purpose of that is to summarize what you see in our financial statements as of the 30th of June in relation to our refinancing the rights issuance. What you see in the first part of the balance sheet treatment as of the 30th of June. We issued the rights of hybrid capital securities in Swedish krona, which was a nominal amount of SEK 684 million, which translated into a euro amount of EUR 65.7 million. Those EUR 65.7 million, if you take a look at the balance sheet, are reflected in equity in the way that issuance costs of EUR 8.3 million have been deducted, and the final equity that you find, as mentioned just before, in our balance sheets in the line of hybrid capital securities have been registered with EUR 57.4 million, the two numbers on the right-hand side.

8.3 and 57.4 together is 65.7. There's the treatment from an equity perspective in the balance sheet. When it comes to the cash proceeds of these EUR 65.7 million, there are two elements that we registered that as of the 30th of June in our balance sheets. On the one-hand side, we had receivables of EUR 8.7 million, which is the cash proceeds that we did not yet receive at the end of the second quarter. The other part was exactly what we received, cash and cash equivalents of EUR 57 million, which is reflected in the cash balance that I just mentioned before. Here again, the EUR 57 million plus the EUR 8.7 million total, the EUR 65.7 million for the rights issue of the hybrid capital security. Taking a look at the second part, the issuance cost and the net cash proceeds of this transaction in its entirety.

I mentioned on the top right, as a deduction in equity issuance cost, what has this issuance cost been? EUR 8.3 million. It has been advisory costs directly related to the issuance of the bonds, our financial advisors and legal advisors, to a total amount of EUR 2 million. Then we had certain guarantors that guaranteed for the successful subscription of our rights issuance. Those guarantors could choose between a cash payment of their commission or to get paid in warrants. You see here how that split eventually looked. Commission fees that have been paid in cash amounted to roughly €400,000, and commission fees that have been paid through warrants that have been issued amount to €5.9 million. In its entirety, EUR 8.3 million. Only EUR 2.4 million out of those had a cash impact.

If you move here to the right-hand side, how does that look like from a total net cash proceeds perspective of this right issuance? We had a cash and cash equivalent input from the right issuance of the EUR 57 million that you see on the right-hand side up there in the balance sheet. The issuance cost that had the cash impact of EUR 2.4 million deducted. The exceptional cost that I mentioned on the profit for the quarter slide of EUR 1.7 million, that also relates to the right issuance, not directly to the hybrid, but to the overall setup where we also amended the terms of our existing bonds, and improved the expiry date by another year.

Also deducting EUR 1.7 million, leading to net cash proceeds of EUR 52.9 million as of the 30th of June. The receivables that we had at the end of the second quarter of cash to be received after that reporting date, translated into net cash proceeds finally of EUR 61.6 million. Going to the third part of that slide, the net interest-bearing liabilities. How did our net debt position really change? As of the 30th of June, what you see here in that graph, our recurring credit facility with Swedbank amounted to EUR 12.5 million. The bonds that we registered at the end of the second quarter amounted to EUR 155 million, which is the then still entire sum of EUR 150 million plus the 5% premium that we agreed during the amendment of the terms. A final redemption rate of 105%.

That together amounted to EUR 155 million. The cash inflow of EUR 57 million from the rights issuance, and the other cash part in our cash position, together the EUR 82.6 million of the cash position in the balance sheet, resulting in net interest-bearing liabilities of EUR 84.9 million, and a leverage, which is the ratio of those net interest-bearing liabilities to the last 12 months adjusted EBITDA of 1.68. Naturally, as we do not have now any need and intention to increase our debt situation for the remaining part of the year, and the positive outlook for continuing with our strategy into the business, it's very logical that this net interest-bearing liabilities will further decrease towards the end. We are tracking towards the leverage of getting close to 1.0, which is extremely favorable, and of course, the entire result of that exercise of the refinancing.

With that, I will hand back to Per. Thank you.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Thank you very much. Next slide, please. It's now time for the outlook going forward. If I can have the next slide after that, please. When it comes to Q3, I'm happy to report that it started in a positive direction. We currently see that July in terms of revenue is 7% up compared to last year, which is a good start considering that July this year is seen as quite a low period for us. Also what is interesting here that we're actually showing a growth also compared to June. We started the quarter in a good way, but I think here it's important to say that the better part is ahead of us, considering that from mid or beginning mid-September, the U.S. sports will start up, and what we hear it's a quite big pent-up demand from that.

End of Q3 and beginning Q4 looks very positive in that sense. In July, what you logically can understand that sport is starting to increase while casino has gone back a bit, and I think that is the trend we will see for us going forward as we have a good sports season ahead of us. That's not to say that casino is doing bad, of course, but it's more back to normal levels. Next slide, please. When we talk about U.S., we always tend to provide a U.S. update. I think it's important considering a lot of discussion we see out there to repeat a couple of things about the U.S. market. In our case, and in most affiliates' positions in the U.S., it's 100% CPA-based business, meaning that we get paid once we qualify a customer at a new operator.

Every time we send in a new customer, we get prepaid for that. After that, the customer deposit money and they start to play and building up their revenue and handle, as it's called over there. We could see very good results coming from U.S. now in July, et cetera, in terms of handle, but bear in mind that those customers were already most of them generated to us before July. That's why we are ahead in revenue generation compared with the revenue built up in terms of handle, just to make that understood by everyone. When it comes to U.S. update in such case, we are today live in eight states. If you look at the following information about U.S., we can also see that more states are on the way.

The latest one to join was Colorado, which opened here in May, and we're looking really forward to what that can mean when the NFL kicks off here on September 10th. In terms of COVID update in terms of U.S., we can see that a lot of sports are ongoing now in a different kind of season. We're seeing NHL hockey on TV, which is very unusual this time of the year. We're seeing a lot of sports being changed. We also see that some NFL-related sports, which is the largest revenue base, are a bit changed compared with previous year. We see that the preseason game is typically happening in August is canceled. We also see that college football in some cases or in cases has been canceled, meaning that there will be less such event.

We hear from our investigation there is a big pent-up demand for NFL or American football once it starts. We believe that once it kicks off, it will be a nice injection of incremental revenue for us. This because more states are up compared to last year. We estimate lot increased traffic, but also more operators are in place, meaning that there are bigger demand for our services. End of the quarter looking interesting, so to speak. Casino is back more to normal levels. The reason for that is that, for some time now the States has opened up, as you know. Land-based casinos has opened up again, which was a big driver when they were closed for us, as a lot of social casino revenue occurred at that time.

We now of course unfortunately see some states really fighting with the pandemic. If that shuts, we have to see how that impacts our revenue numbers going forward for casino. Still sports of course as we see today will continue. I think the key difference compared with previous years that we foresee a bit regularity in terms of the revenue build up. We've typically seen U.S. sports will build up a bit later in the quarter. We know that NFL is by far the largest revenue generating sports out there. With that starting a bit later, hence we foresee the revenue coming in a bit later in Q3, but also spilling over into Q4. All in all, we project nicely increased traffic numbers for the second half.

We also see that we've been good in improving our conversion rates, meaning that all the traffic coming in, we're able to convert a larger percentage of players than we used to be, which is something that comes up after a time you've been active in the different states to understand exactly how to benefit from that traffic. All in all, over time it looks very positive. I think also that what is really good is that we know that some states are on the way to launch as well. We're looking at Tennessee, Virginia, and Michigan, for sports, which we prepared sites for a long time, and we can see that we rank very good for key search terms there. When the states open up for regulated business, we will be able to transmit good traffic volumes from day one.

Michigan will go for casino, which also preparing sites for and have had them running for a long time and ensuring that we have top ranking sites when it opens up. I think this is a result also that we can see many states that when we went into the quarter, we thought actually that the pandemic would hinder the regulatory process across the states. It actually had in general overall a positive outcome because more states want to regulate in order to ensure that the gaming is controlled by an official body, but also that the tax income will benefit the U.S. citizens and not some foreign board operator. That's very positive. We can obviously see that some states are coming along earlier.

Some are still dependent on when the date will full launch will be. I will come back to that a bit later in the presentation. In the meantime, what we're doing is that we continue to invest in the U.S., in order to ensure a good dominant position also in the future. A key thing now with us running the amount of sites we do is to make sure that we constantly update our content on these sites because good content drives good revenues. We have recently decided to launch now an artificial intelligence generated content product that helps us to magnify the amount of content created each day a lot, meaning that we can increase the amount of content on each site, we can also support much more sites for future states with that ensuring that we have very good ranking pages.

That will help us a lot, to even stronger position than our dominance we see today. We also looking at different solutions like how we can acquire more people from different kind of media channels, and one thing of course is that there's a lot of app-based data sports data generated sites out there that are following everything in terms of American sports. For some of our sites, we're complementing them with apps in order to capture a larger part of the mobile channel when they go live and then benefit from the revenue there. One thing also we need to consider now is of course the EUR has increased in value in terms of exchange rate compared with USD. Obviously, that is impacting us a bit this quarter.

On the long term, of course, we foresee that that should balance and not be a long-term impact for us. Next slide, please. If you're looking at the rollouts, we always provide this slide for those who wants to have a bit more details. What you can see here is that first of all, Colorado, in terms of sport went live in May, that will benefit from when the NFL kicks off. We see that Michigan, which we believe are quite close to launch, it depends a bit. We're hoping that can launch during this year late, it's most likely not going to start running for the NFL kickoff, later in the year. Also we see some potential revenues in Q4 coming in for that we didn't originally plan with.

Other than that, we see Tennessee, that are most likely going to launch in the beginning of Q4. We hope that it will be in time really now for the NFL, but we're not sure. It's very near, and of course, that will be benefiting us as well. In the late 2020 or beginning 2021, we foresee that Virginia will come on board for sports as well. All in all, what we can see is that we have the good momentum in the states we're in. We're waiting for the NFL build-up, and on top of that, during that part and later in the year, but especially pent up good for 2021, we see a much larger reach in U.S., meaning that we foresee a continued nice healthy growth in the U.S. for a long time forward. Next slide, please.

If you look at the outlooks for second half, we believe, as I mentioned, that the sports league season starting from late Q3, as I just explained, we believe that that can be a very nice trend for us, ending the Q3 in style, also starting Q4 in the same way. We see a good growth trend for our core brands in AskGamblers and in Japan. Basically, if you take away the peak they had from the COVID business, they are on a month-to-month nice growth trajectory. We're doing good business with them, of course, also incrementally helped by them during the market shutdown in April and May. We foresee them to continue to grow slowly over time, especially in the Q4 onwards when we have the peak season.

Casino in general, as I mentioned, a bit more back to normal after the COVID peak. In times like this also when we see that we have markets that are, in some cases are challenging by the pandemic, but also we also see opportunities in new markets where we've been in. We've been working a lot to try to expand our different brands into new segments or new geographies over the world. One thing was that actually as of today, we are live in Sweden, with AskGamblers as a tenant to make sure that we can provide that for licensed operators in Sweden and give a good, healthy explanation about how the casino market works and benefit from the typical good features we have in AskGamblers.

Our BettingPro products, which was also launched in LATAM during last quarter, we are also now preparing that to launch it in one market, which among one is the Ukrainian market soon to be regulated, which is good to grow in that part of the world as well. On top of that, we are having a lot of other interesting products that will be announced once they are about to be launched. One thing we talked about a long time that was a bit pushed away because of the COVID and the focus on maintaining revenues was the restructure of the sports segment, the legacy sports business in Europe, which actually was not stopped. We've been working on it, and you can see the launch of BettingPro into new markets and a lot of activities going on in the background.

That continues and will continue to gradually improve figures during the year and during next year as well. As I mentioned before, we have a lot of ongoing investments into U.S., as already explained, into Asia, where we see especially Japan has a very nice growth potential the coming years, which we want to benefit from, but also into Latin America, where we're starting to see the right trends in our core data points going forward. All in all, I think it will be very exciting second half for us. What will be different compared with last year is the revenue seasonality build-up with all the things that are mentioned. We believe that we will have a very interesting second half for sports in the U.S., a bit later than normal.

We also believe that at the same time we can see sports really start to grow back in Q4, et cetera, while we're doing the best we can as normal to continue the growth trajectory of our core brands like AskGamblers and our Japanese business. All in all, we believe we have a good portfolio of growth drivers for us here for the second half, but also to be creating kind of satisfying start of the new year as well. Next slide, please. Based on that, the key takeaways to summarize is that we recorded a very good quarter in terms of basically all KPIs here. It was the best quarter ever for U.S. Despite the absence of sports, the casino business was extremely high and helped us a lot as a lot of other segments went down because of pandemic.

All in all, a very good influx of incremental revenue through that. We have worked very hard, as also showed by Peter, to control the cost base, and we're coming up to quite nice cost efficiency now for quite many quarters back. That even though with that we have continued our investments. We have a money outflow into future business and still we manage to control the cost very good. We managed to complete the rights issue, which not only bringing down the debt level, but also we clean up the balance sheet in a very good way. In terms of company profile, we're in a much healthier state today than we used to be before.

As I mentioned, we started Q3 very nicely with a 7% year-on-year increase, and we're looking forward to what second half can bring to us in terms of all the issues I already mentioned. All in all, I'm very proud of how we managed to conclude this quarter, obviously with record numbers. We are geared to basically attack anything what the market send towards us also going forward. That's it from the business presentation. I'll just change to the next slide, where we go through a bit of the key events and upcoming events going forward, just to summarize them. We have the report for the third quarter planned for and booked for 19th of November. Further than that, we have the year-end and Q4 report booked for February 24th, and then we will issue the annual report on March 29th.

Based on that, I hand over to Q&A if that would be any questions from the forum for us.

Operator

Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press zero one on your telephone keypad. If you wish to withdraw your question, you may do so by pressing zero two to cancel. There will be a brief pause while questions are being registered. First question comes from Erik Moberg, ABG. Please go ahead.

Erik Moberg
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Morning, guys.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Good morning.

Erik Moberg
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

First question. What is the net debt on a pro forma basis after the first subscription period here of the warrant?

Peter Messner
CFO, Catena Media

On the warrants, we have not commented on that because given on what happened during the first exercise window, which was 10 days after our 10th of July completion of the rights issue, we haven't received those proceeds. The warrants as we released in the press release translated into a cash inflow of roughly EUR 7 million during the first exercise period. That you can consider, of course on my respective slide number 14 to further improve the net interest-bearing liability. Plus further, of course, the continuing business from a cash perspective. We also repaid from our cash balance, of course, the EUR 49.5 million of existing bonds, but that doesn't further change our net interest-bearing liabilities position, given that we just reduced the debt by then and the cash position at the same time. As of tomorrow, the second warrant exercise period will start for another 10 days.

It is hard to say what we would expect in terms of warrants exercising. We will, of course, report that to the market as soon as that exercise window has closed again.

Erik Moberg
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay, fair enough. In regards of Europe, did this part of the business actually see growth during Q2? If we look for the remainder of the year, do you expect that this part of the business can come back to growth, or should we expect it to be more flattish on a year-over-year basis?

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

I think we need to break that down. There's quite many impacts when we summarize Europe. Will sports grow back? Yes, absolutely. We have more tiers on the way. We have been quite scarce on sports events in Q2, especially as most major league has been playing. Now so far this month, we have a lot of leagues now on pause, just to restart soon again. Q4 is looking to it. If you look at the basic, I say, the legacy business in terms of casino, we foresee some of those sides start to go back from the Google update, while some did have no impact and are slowly growing.

I think also here, we believe that we will see a nice impact of that also then later in the season they go, which is typically closer we come to Christmas, the more seasonality positive impacts we have. When it comes to AskGamblers, which has a very big global spread, we see good trends from that coming out now. We believe that it's more normalized now compared with the peak, but still it's growing very nicely compared with last year, and it's continuing to show good numbers and goals, and the same kind of trends we see from Japan, which is not legacy business but still helps us. All in all, we see that depending on the business unit, some are a bit more flattish, while some are projected to increase as time proceeds.

Erik Moberg
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Got it. If we continue to look into 2021 here for the legacy business in Europe, we have the Dutch regulation that comes into play during the fall. How much in theory do you think that this could actually add growth for the legacy business?

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

I think there are a couple of things happening in Europe. First, we need to remember the impacts we see in Sweden and whether that will proceed or not. Now, we're not particularly large in the Nordic region, but still we have some. Add to that Germany is going to regulate it, where we know that will have some impacts, but also the Dutch is coming up. What we further then do more is that we are also adding our presence in more European markets where I haven't been predominantly large so far. Overall, our aim is not to reduce revenues, of course, in 2021, but rather gain them. Exactly what market and by when, I can't tell you right now because that we can only announce once we've done those actions.

All in all, considering that some markets have actually not been very good historically, but we're becoming better, hence we believe we can not only launch in the new market, but also increase our share in certain markets. That's why we believe that we can do a lot better jobs in legacy business in the European markets as such. Add all the other incentives or that kind of things we do in U.S., LATAM, and elsewhere.

Erik Moberg
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

All right. All things equal looking into 2021, we should see this as a growing business.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Our legacy business?

Erik Moberg
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Yeah, exactly. Your legacy business in Europe. We should see this as a growing business into 2021, all things equal.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

That's what we're planning for.

Erik Moberg
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Yeah. All right. Fair enough. In terms of the U.S., could you perhaps elaborate a bit on the CPA levels versus one year ago?

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Yeah. There are no changes in CPA levels. Of course, the mix is a bit different because we know that about a year ago, Pennsylvania started, which due to the very hard tax scheme there, comes in with a lower CPA. If you look at the amount of recharge we can do today in any state, so has not decreased at all since then. With more states now coming in with less taxation on the route, we believe that our average CPA, even though that there are more states, you're further into the life cycle, we don't foresee them coming down for a while because states opening up, there's a lot of operators there fighting for whatever traffic we can get.

With a larger part of our revenue coming from states with less tax regimes than Pennsylvania, logically, our income by customer had the potential to increase, if not just stabilize on very high levels as they are already. We have to remember that CPA for casino, for example, is three to five times higher than Europe for any customer. With new states coming in, would represent quite many million people, but also the fact that our penetration so far in existing regulated states are still very low. We believe we can have an extremely good growth journey for 2021 as well, but especially thereafter as well as if some of the super states like California, Florida, or New York are about to launch or whomever they're about to launch.

Erik Moberg
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Got it. Just in regards to the competitive landscape in the U.S. within affiliate, if we compare the overall market versus one year ago, have you seen any changes, or would you say that it has remained relatively the same?

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

I think everybody is fighting, of course, and rightfully, everybody should fight for this market because it's an extraordinary incremental revenue opportunity. When it comes to affiliation, it's all about ranking good sites. Historically, in Europe and elsewhere, there's been a lot of people having a lot of sites ranking in those states, and if you cannot beat them, you typically acquire them. In U.S., it's a bit different because a lot of states where there are no traffic so far, or regulated, there's been very few sites running. We are in the good position that a lot of sites that are ranking are ours, that we started a long time ago and are investing quite heavily in to make sure that they rank well together with some other competitors as well.

Our view is that on the states about to launch, we have still a very good market share of the work keywords ranking in those states, and we're doing a lot of investments to maintain that happening. We cannot comment on the market share we have in the U.S. today. We, of course, have a quite good idea of what that is, but we're still maintaining a very dominant position in the U.S. market as of today and plan to do so in the future as well.

Erik Moberg
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Got you. Thank you very much, guys. That's all for me.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Thank you.

Erik Moberg
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Thank you.

Operator

Next question comes from Hjalmar Ahlberg, Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Hjalmar Ahlberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Thanks. Maybe a comment on the July growth here, you helped out a bit that you have some performance last year and up from June in July as well. Can you give some more flavor on how to see this compared to last year? Because last year, July, you had, I think, Italy impacting negatively from the marketing ban, so that should have negative effect. It was July last year, a three-week month, so it is easy to compare last year. Of course, maybe we have June when you were up this year as well. Maybe just some flavor on how to think about July and Q2 as a whole.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

I think to do a travel from last year to this year, you pretty much need to go through every revenue line as everything is completely different. We have to remember that the Italian business last year, yes, it goes down, as you remember, it was not a kind of major part of our business still planned for that season. If you look at it, hey, what happened with casino compared with last year? This quarter we are more or less, in legacy business, more or less in par while AskGamblers in Japan doing more. We also know that in July, the sports revenues in the U.S. have helped, but they're not very large so far. Everything is waiting for NFL in my case.

What has been the thing that has basically pulled us down is a bit of the sports, of course, compared with last year, the legacy sports. The growth has been driven by the core casino products to help up the result compared with last year. That in total is driving more revenue for us than before, while the total sports segment is down compared with last year due to known reasons.

Hjalmar Ahlberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay. Got it. I don't know if you can comment that, but how important is the NFL starting or being delayed into Q3 and Q4? Is that like ±10% on a quarter? If you can have any comment on that.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

No, I cannot comment on that. Obviously, as you can see historically, and as you can imagine, that the key thing happening, especially this year in U.S., will be the NFL kickoff, and the coming games here, especially what they're going through now. According to our investigations we've done, we can see that a lot of people waiting for that. It is, of course, important for us. As we said, it is very difficult to see what it mean and what time it means, but it's really incremental for us. I cannot comment about the percentage.

Hjalmar Ahlberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yeah. Going into Q3 and the second half of the year, in Q2, there was very strong profitability, but you had some direct costs being lower and also some OpEx being lower as you didn't invest in content, in sports mapping and so on. How is it going in Q3? I expect that you will invest more in both direct costs and other OpEx. On the profitability-wise, I guess it will be tough to keep the levels in Q2.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Well, let's see. If we start with PPC, there's a couple things impacting here. First of all, the reason why we didn't invest in that in Q2 was because of the lack of sports demands. Of course, you don't buy keywords for that. That is a saving, obviously. When it comes to casino, we did some investments, of course, but we also held back sometimes because there was a quite big demand for PPC clicks during the time as a lot of sports were down, so everyone wants to benefit from casino. Meaning that the margins possible to estimate from that segment were lower than normal, and we want to prioritize profitability than growth, so hence we held it back. How do we then foresee that this for the quarter? Well, obviously now when more sports coming up, logically, there will be more things to buy.

When it comes to the pricing of that, we have to see how things plays out in different markets. If the margins are good, we will increase the spending, which then also would reflect on the revenues, of course. If not, we will hold back, which might reduce the revenues a lot. On the other hand, improve profitability. I think we sit with a good hand here that we can very much decide that. The good thing with that is because the search revenue as such is quite healthy for us now. If we believe we can add some and have a good margin, fine, otherwise, we won't do it. That is all about what's happening now with the sports and how things spins up.

It's just we're taking a lot of different strategies how to kind of focus what to do based on that.

When it comes to content generation, yes. We are increasing that level, of course, in sports as it grows. Basically, I would say that the sports revenue is more or less predicted to grow percent-wise more than the cost will. If we invest those costs and the sports coming up to the kind of same levels, that investment should not decrease the margin as such.

Hjalmar Ahlberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, got it. Maybe a question on the Swedish market, the launch of AskGamblers. You do this now with the change regulation. Did you see a lot of players wanting to change operators because of the deposit limits? Do you see more need of an affiliation in Sweden right now, or is it just the timing was not related to that?

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

I think in general, we see some markets like U.K. and Sweden being quite aggressive and/or that advanced in regulatory issues. We need to learn that because we know that a lot of markets probably during the future will follow. Even though regulation, Sweden is a very large casino market with a big turnaround of casino players. Being able to support them in their own local language and also from us learn data points, how they behave, I think it's extremely good knowledge to have also for future markets about to go the same path. One thing is of course, to localize the business, give better services to Swedish players. The other thing is we gain a lot of knowledge from that going forward in the new markets.

Hjalmar Ahlberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Do you have a lot of Swedish traffic on AskGamblers before this language change or do you expect that to increase a lot with the new language?

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Well, we have to see. Typically, launching in U.K. won't explode your business over days. Something gradually built up because we also need to learn from our side how to better treat them in the local language, et cetera. If we didn't think it would gradually increase, we would of course not do it.

Hjalmar Ahlberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yeah.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

We are hopeful that we can expand our business in that terms in Sweden through this.

Hjalmar Ahlberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay. That was it for me. Thank you.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Thank you.

Operator

Next question comes from Mikael Laséen, Carnegie. Please go ahead.

Mikael Laséen
Analyst, Carnegie

Yes. Hi, good morning. A couple of questions. First of all, on the cost development in the second half, you mentioned and commented on the direct cost and so on, but can you also update us on the personnel side, what you expect?

Peter Messner
CFO, Catena Media

Yeah. O n the personnel side. Yes. As I mentioned during the first half of the year, but particularly since the start of the pandemic, we have been freezing or halting further development given the uncertainty, which is reflected of course in the numbers that you see for the entire first half year. Given that we are a growing business, it doesn't make a lot of sense to not further invest into the main assets that we have, which is our employees driving our businesses in the various parts of the world. What I expect now gradually, on the personnel expenses during the second half of the year, and Per already mentioned on that, we have been recruiting people pretty much every month.

In maybe a more of a way, the more we see, particularly in those markets like the U.S. and further states are coming up as we start to prepare for really taking these benefits very early on to increase personnel expenses towards the end of the year. We will be higher than on an average personnel expense that you have seen in the first half of the year for sure. The same is true a little bit on the other OpEx as well. We have been particularly low now in the second quarter. I expect that we go up to a level of pre-COVID that we have seen in the first quarter of this year, but certainly not back to levels that you have seen during the last year, given that we made certain cost transformation and savings measures since last year in that area.

Direct costs, Per already commented on that. We see, of course, this continuous transition from what you have continuously seen also during the last year. If you take a look at those quarters and the amount of revenue that we made from paid revenue that we made from those investments. Those are certainly not in any way close to what we have seen during the previous year. We will further evaluate where we see a very good return on investment, as long as we are not jeopardizing our margins in that respect. We previously said that our direct costs always played out in a range of 10%-15%. I believe that it is too big of a range. I would expect something more like in the lower part of that range.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Again, it is following the business opportunities that we have new states in the U.S., sports events, et cetera. All in all, you can expect that our cost base is not necessarily increasing in comparison to what you've seen during the last year. I would assume that we are improving our margins, of course, during this year.

Mikael Laséen
Analyst, Carnegie

Great. Thanks for the clarity. Would be great also if you can comment on the revenue generated from the U.S., approximately your exposure to those markets.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

We haven't gone out with that number for a reason because volatility is so high from month to month. I think we later in the year have to see how that is doing on a kind of combined version. As you can understand in Q2, it was very high compared with normal. I see now, for example, in the beginning now on the third quarter, it'll be much less only to get back to higher amounts again in the end of the quarter and then in Q4. We have avoided to comment that because it's extremely volatile and changing all the time. Obviously it's.

Was much higher than the previous announced 20% of our total business in Q2.

Mikael Laséen
Analyst, Carnegie

Yeah, I was thinking more about the revenue trend, 12 months or six months rolling, for example. Of course, monthly revenues, or of course annualized.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Okay, fair enough.

Mikael Laséen
Analyst, Carnegie

Yeah. If you also can comment maybe on how much of your U.S. revenue is generated by New York and Pennsylvania. I would assume that those two states are completely dominating your activities or

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Yes, they are. If you look in general for the states we're active in, if looking by size, obviously New York and Pennsylvania, we have both sports and casino, which is a big thing. You have Indiana, of course, but in sports. We have them smaller states like Rhode Island et cetera, which is quite small in terms of that. They are definitely dominating. The good thing we see here is also that, for example, in Pennsylvania, even more operators coming in now and want to have traffic. We still see a very high demand for our services there going forward. That's why also we're looking forward to a couple of larger states coming in now, being really active now with Michigan on the way, et cetera.

We get a better balance there, and not only living by the increased penetration in those states you mentioned, but also that we get further states that are coming in from scratch and gradually build up. Hence we are very positive about the future growth trends we see in the U.S.

Mikael Laséen
Analyst, Carnegie

Okay, thanks. Which state in the U.S. are you most excited about?

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

I think it's hard. There are two different things. Even if you look in New York and Pennsylvania, you still have a quite low penetration. We foresee a lot of growth coming out there for several years to come. Compared with penetrations like in the Northern and Central Europe or Western Europe, they're far from there so far. It's still in the beginning phase. That means that even in the active states, we have a lot of positive to do. Of course, if I look down forward now, Michigan for me is something that is really tempting because of the size and the culture of gaming in that state. That will be interesting. There's, of course, a lot of other states cooking to become next to it, like Illinois, et cetera, which are also extremely nice states for us to go into.

We have more than one favorite, if you put it like that.

Mikael Laséen
Analyst, Carnegie

Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, please press zero one on your telephone keypad. Thank you for holding. We have no further audio questions. Dear speakers, back to you.

Speaker 7

We do have a question.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Okay.

Speaker 7

-through email, it's: Do you think you will benefit from changes in Sweden? I think Per will take it. Do you?

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

You can look at that in two ways. In general, will the gaming industry benefit from the changes in Sweden? Predominantly not. On the other hand, this is the future we're facing, stronger regulation. The question is therefore how we will adapt to make a good business. Clear is that in this situation, historically, we see that people search for more information to understand where they can get the best service, et cetera, which is quite positive for us being in that part of the world in terms of our business model. Furthermore, considering that we have been quite small in Sweden because we haven't focused that much on product development there lately. As I mentioned, we want to give that market better services by our key brands we have.

Also the fact that to pick up a lot of data points so we can learn from that for other markets about to go through the same. All in all, I would say that over time, I'm feeling that we can do a better business in Sweden, both in terms of revenue, but also from an operational point of view and data management point of view.

Speaker 7

Yeah. Thank you. No further questions via email.

Per Hellberg
CEO, Catena Media

Okay. I think that concludes. On behalf of myself and Peter, I would like to thank you for your attention. Looking forward to speak to you again on the next quarter call, if not before. Thank you very much.

Operator

This now concludes our conference call. Thank you all for attending. You may now disconnect your line.