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CMD 2021

Dec 1, 2021

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

A very warm welcome to the Epiroc Capital Markets Day 2021. My name is Karin Larsson, and I'm Head of IR here at Epiroc. We host this Capital Markets Day virtually this year again, and we do it because we put safety first. The pandemic is not over, and we want all of you to remain safe. Today, we would like to show you that Epiroc is a vital part of a sustainable society and that our innovations are needed if we are going to be successful with our joint global ambition to reduce carbon emissions while also providing for a growing population. As you know, our customers are mainly found within mining and infrastructure, and these industries serve an important purpose. They have built societies for centuries. Our role is to ensure that our customers can operate in the safest, most sustainable, and efficient way possible.

How do we do this? Well, we believe in innovation. At the same time, we are also humble before the fact that we are a small player in a big world, and that we cannot do everything by ourselves. We therefore place great emphasis on collaboration, both internally and externally. We will share several examples and proof points today on how we drive the productivity and sustainability transformation in our industry. The agenda is built on our strategy, and you will get the pleasure to meet the majority of our management team, including all five division presidents. We will present the speakers as they appear, but we will also have a short break in the middle of the program. Once the presentations are done, we will end with a Q&A session over phone.

You will see the dial-ins for the Q&A popping up on the screen once it's time. The first speaker today is our CEO, Helena Hedblom. With more than 20 years in the company, mainly within R&D, she's a true role model when it comes to our unique and strong corporate culture. With this, Helena, please introduce our audience to our strong foundation, our foundation for success.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Great. Thank you, Karin, and also thank you all for taking the time to join us today. I have the pleasure to open up the presentation today with our foundation, our foundation for success. Our foundation is in short defined by a strong company culture and a sustainable mindset. Why is corporate culture so important? Well, first of all, it safeguards that we are the employer of choice and that we can attract the best workforce. It also contributes to a high-performing organization. Our governance model has made us to a fast and efficient company. Actually, I would say that we are a 148-year-old startup. What do I mean with this? Well, we have a strong heritage with proven expertise since 1873, while also having the benefits of being a young and a fast company.

We have more than 15,000 passionate employees in a decentralized organization, which enables quick decision-making. Decentralization is part of our business model and culture for decades, and it means that our colleagues are used to take responsibility and take decisions when needed. It also means that many of our colleagues get responsibility already at an early stage in their career, including responsibility for revenues and profit. This, we are convinced, makes our people grow, be happy, and to remain loyal to the company. We have customers in more than 150 countries, and 85% of our revenues are direct. This is a strength in many ways. First, because we are close to our customers, which make us better in meeting their demands. Local presence also means that we are quick in supporting customers for reliable production.

It also means that we get customer feedback directly from the customers, which help us to innovate the best solutions. We have a low customer concentration with our 10 largest customers representing only 20% of our revenues. About 74% of our employees work within the aftermarket, and of these, more than 6,100 are service technicians. This has proven to be a strength in times of global travel restrictions. As we have seen, we are based many times at the customer sites, access has not really been a problem for us. Our innovation focus and global aftermarket have contributed to make us a market leader in our niches. As Karin mentioned initially, we drive the productivity and sustainability transformation in our industry, and here automation is playing an important role.

By providing automation and even fully autonomous solutions, we create many benefits for our customers. It increases safety, and safety is, as you know, a main priority for our customers. Working conditions improve. To work in a control room is safer and more comfortable than staying in the machine. Availability and utilization rates of equipment also improve and makes production more efficient throughout the value chain, which means more revenues and more profits for our customers. To continue, do you know that the mining industry contribute to as much as 47% of the global CO2 emissions? That infrastructure industry contributes to at least as much. This is, of course, a problem that needs to be solved.

If we look to the right on this slide and assume that our underground example customer has access to green electricity, then the majority of its emissions derive from the use of products, mainly within load and haul. Here we can make a positive impact. The use of our equipment is the main contributor to CO2 emissions in our value chain. In fact, as much as 83%. We have been working with reducing the dependency of diesel already for decades. Our strong heritage underground is partly the reason for this. Fumes have never been something positive. Electric cables, increasingly efficient engines, biodiesel engines, lower weight vehicles, and more has always been in focus, and we have high ambition. In 2016, we launched our first-generation battery vehicles, and today we have a market-leading position and the broadest offering in the market.

How do we drive the transformation then? Well, we do it by working smart and agile, by investing more than ever in R&D, close collaboration with customers and partners, local presence, and by creating a true innovation culture. Let me elaborate a bit on the innovation culture as this is an important topic for us. We foster creative people that dare to think new. People that are open-minded are better in developing new ideas. In recent years, we have recruited a large number of colleagues with different competencies than before. Automation and software engineers, data scientists, for example, but also technicians in the field that can support our new solutions. Our model is also such that we want people to have the ambition to grow to the next level, to take on larger responsibility, like I mentioned earlier.

In a decentralized and global organization, this is vital. Finally, we want to take advantage of the full workforce, and I'm convinced that diverse teams are stronger teams and deliver better results. I am very proud of the wide range of nationalities in the group. We can improve, for example, on gender diversity, where we have many initiatives ongoing. Before moving on to the next slide, I would like to mention our core values, innovation, commitment, and collaboration. If I may, I would like to focus a bit on collaboration. To remain the leader, we need to, beyond innovating ourself, also collaborate with the best to leverage knowledge. Let me share a few examples. First, the Avatel, which is the first mechanized development charging system in the world.

It has been created in collaboration with Orica, and it is a true game-changer for increased safety. Secondly, we work with Ivanplats in South Africa to develop their green-field mine in the most sustainable and productive manner possible by using battery electric vehicles. Thirdly, we convert diesel equipment to battery electric with, among others, our customer Evolution Mining. This speeds up the shift to an emission-free future. You will hear more about conversions later today from Jess. As sustainability is such an important part of our strong foundation, we also set targets to reach our goals. In a result-driven organization, this is important. What gets measured also gets done. We have four focus areas in sustainability, and we follow up on our actions and the results regularly.

From 2021, sustainability metrics are part of the variable compensation for group management and other key managers, such as general managers in the group. The targets are applied and measured depending on roles and areas of responsibility. In 2020, we set ambitious 2030 sustainability goals for people and for planet, and they reflect our commitment to help accelerate the implementation of Agenda 2030 and the Paris Agreement. More on that on next slide. Before that, I would also like to highlight our Code of Conduct, which describes who we are as a company and what we stand for. It also outlines the appropriate business behavior and how we must and how we all must act. We also have a dedicated code for our business partners. On this slide, you can see all our 2030 sustainability goals.

I will not go through all of them, as I will instead share some examples of what we do and some of our achievements on the next slide. Still, I would recommend you to take a closer look at them when you have time, as our goals are among the most ambitious ones in our industry. Starting with some achievements. When it comes to people, lost time injury frequency rate is down 17% year-over-year, and reasons for this are increased safety awareness and better design of products. For example, we launched the Safe Start program in 2019, and to date, about half our employees are trained, and the program will be finished in 2023. Our light work elimination program is also running, which you will hear more about later.

We also want to double the number of women in operational roles by 2030, and we are moving in the right direction, even if it's slowly. In 2021, we have added more than 350 women to Epiroc, which means that about a third of new hires are women. For example, we have a nine-week rotation program in our Garland factory, which has led to twice as many women in production. We have also launched a successful service academy for women in India. Diversity is not all about women, it is so much more, and therefore we have a diversity and inclusion board that helps drive diversity and inclusion across the group. For our Code of Conduct, we have launched a mandatory E-learning. All managers are required to do the training and sign commitment to the code.

Next year our goal is to have all employees to do the training. Let me also share some achievements for the planet part, and starting with the good news that our ambitious climate goals have been validated as science-based. This means that our goals are aligned to keep global warming at a maximum 1.5 degrees Celsius, consistent with the Paris Agreement, as well as the Glasgow Climate Pact. We commit to half absolute CO2 emissions in our own operations, so-called Scope 1 and Scope 2, by 2030. However, more than 99% of our total CO2 emissions are other indirect emissions, of which about 83% derive from the use of the products. Therefore, we have also committed to half absolute CO2 emissions from the use of sold products, so-called Scope 3, also this by 2030.

This is industry-leading and well above the SBTi's minimum requirements. If we then move on to our focus on attractive niches. To us, the attractive niches are those niches within mining and infrastructure in which customers, regardless where they are in the world, appreciate and seek best-in-class solutions where performance and quality makes a difference. Often, our equipment, the equipment we provide is mission-critical for our customers. What does it mean for us? Well, it means that our customers are willing to pay for innovation, for technology, for availability, and also increased sustainability. In the end, our customers seek superior performance, and if we can help them being successful, we will also be successful. This is a quite detailed slide, made to introduce Epiroc to those of you that are in the process of getting to know us.

I will not go through all details today, but what I would like to highlight is that 36% of our orders are equipment orders. We offer best-in-class equipment, such as drill rigs, loaders, and trucks, and they can be used both underground and on surface, and we have customers in both mining and infrastructure. The split of underground surface is about 50-50, and we're looking at our customer split, 77% are within mining. To us, providing reliable and local aftermarket is equally important as to offer the best equipment. Since many decades already, we have offered solutions to keep the equipment as efficient and productive as possible, and our aftermarket represents two-thirds of our revenue today. If we dig a bit deeper into our customer exposure, you will find that infrastructure customers represent almost a quarter of our orders.

The rest, which is mainly mining exposure, can be split into different minerals, with gold, copper, nickel, and iron being the most important ones. Key is, however, that we cater to customers in hard rock niches. To the right, you can see the current Epiroc mineral prices weighted at an indexed level. This is something that we monitor on a monthly basis, and what this graph illustrates is that we are at the historically high and promising levels. There is, of course, a correlation between this development and the production of minerals. The production level and demand among customers is high. In Q3, we had record orders received. Both equipment and our aftermarket is performing well. In total, we achieved 24% organic order growth.

Despite global supply chain challenges, we also managed to increase both revenues and operating profit, and the latter because of hard work in the organization to find solutions. This includes finding new ways of sourcing alternative suppliers, remanufacture, redesigning components, and adjusting pricing. The supply chain challenges in combination with a larger portion of multi-year orders as well as us ramping up after a period of strong order growth has led to longer lead times for equipment compared to the normal average of two to three quarters. That said, to keep existing fleet up running is really the main priority for our customers, and therefore we have prioritized our aftermarket like we always do, and this, if anything, has led to stronger customer relationships.

We have also executed well on acquisitions, and many of the companies that we have acquired will enable a quicker and smoother adaptation of automation, digitalization, and electrification for our customers. And looking forward, we expect that demand, both for equipment and aftermarket, will remain at a high level in the near term. In the quarterly call, I also emphasized that this is a comment for the underlying demand, and that large orders always can have an impact on the actual order levels as large orders are lumpy in nature. Now I think it's time to speak about long term instead. Who would be better suited than Martin Hjerpe? Martin is our Senior Vice President M&A and Strategy, and a dedicated and appreciated colleague here at Epiroc. He has a strong passion for diving deep into numbers, strategies, and not the least, the ocean.

He is a great diver. Please, Martin.

Martin Hjerpe
SVP of M&A and Strategy, Epiroc

Thank you, Helena, for that kind introduction. I would like to go into the attractive market dynamics that we are exposed to. At the core, there's a structural underlying growth in demand for mining and construction in the world. At the same time, our customers are exposed to increasing challenges to meet that demand. We also see a strong customer focus on safety and sustainability, and today you will have the pleasure to hear about many of our innovations. Over half of the world's population live in urban areas, and that will increase to over two-thirds by 2050. Urbanization does not only bring economic growth and increased demand for minerals, but also new construction of housing, well-connected transport systems such as tunnels, bridges, and other infrastructure. To those of you who have followed Epiroc during the years, this slide has no new information.

It is, however, important information worth repeating. Our customers are facing several challenges which are supporting demand. A mine is a complex environment, and as a consequence, the actual utilization of the equipment is often low. Customers are therefore constantly looking for new solutions that can increase productivity and production. Approximately 25% of the global copper production today is done underground, and the trend towards underground mining continues. By 2040, some 35% of the copper mining operations can be done underground. To make this even more challenging, the underground mines also go deeper, about 30 meters deeper every year, which means that the mining operations again becomes increasingly complex. Finally, the depletion of ore grades means that more rock needs to be drilled, blasted, and excavated to get the same amount of minerals.

This is true across minerals as the richest and most economical deposits are being depleted over time. Within mining, our largest exposure, as mentioned before, is to copper and gold. The strong demand and growth in both these metals support our own growth. Copper is key to the decarbonization of the economy, and even with increasing recycling, the underlying growth will be strong. We therefore also see high activity in exploration for copper at present. The outlook for gold is also strong. There's a meaningful ore grade decline in gold and, of course, an almost insatiable demand. With current gold prices, the activity for both exploration and mining is indeed high. Finally, safety and sustainability continues to be of utmost importance for us and our customers.

We normally say that our innovation agenda goes hand in hand with our customer sustainability agenda, and this is really true. Starting with safety, which is the number one priority in mining and construction since decades already. This focus has made mining a much safer industry than before, but there's still much more to do. Neither we nor the industry can rest until every worker comes home safe and sound after every shift. Also, our customers are increasingly focused on reducing their greenhouse gas emissions. Some customers have had this agenda for many years, but I would say that the ambition levels have increased, and that sustainability is now a topic in every conversation with customers today. Of course, we are more than happy to provide solutions to our customers to help them with this transformation in sustainability. Another relevant environmental topic for us is water scarcity.

A lot of the world's mines are situated in water-stressed areas, and even if our equipment isn't the largest users of water in a mine, we still constantly innovate to help in our part with equipment and solutions that require less water in the production. When we then conclude this session of attractive market dynamics, what does it all mean when it comes to our financial goals? Combining organic growth with selective acquisitions, we have a goal to grow by 8% annually over a cycle. Since 2015, our growth has been about 5% per year, mostly organically and less than 1% coming from acquisitions. In the last year, we've accelerated the inorganic growth and add companies with an annualized revenue equivalent to approximately 3%.

We thus stick confidently to our target of growing with 8% over the cycle, combining organic growth with selective acquisitions, and I will speak more about those later today. When it comes to profitability, our target is to have an industry-best operating margin with strong resilience over the cycle. So far, we have managed well. It is, however, not very easy. It's hard work and commitment from the whole organization that's behind this development. Key is, of course, to offer the best possible solutions to our customers, which then brings me to the topic of innovation. You've already heard Helena mentioning innovation today and how we collaborate with the best to make a positive impact. Before I hand over to the next speaker, I would like to give you a very brief holistic view of what we are trying to achieve.

Innovation is indeed key, and we continuously strive for new and better ways to support customers. Today, it's clear that it's not enough to only offer the best products and aftermarket service. We also need to be true productivity partners to our customers in the digital area. We've been innovating in the increasingly digital mine for decades with automation and tele-remote controls, connected machines, and software systems supporting customers to get the best out of their machines and their operators. In pace with the technological development, we can now support our customers in ever more advanced ways, situational awareness in the mine, mixed fleet automation, ore grade logging, optimized drill patterns, electrification control systems, and much more. Many of these solutions are developed organically under our 6th Sense umbrella, but we also strengthen the offering with acquisitions when needed.

Examples in the past year include Mobilaris, MineRP, Kinetic Logging Services, Meglab, and FVT Research. Here to show you much more about what we're doing in this area is the President of our Technology and Digital Division, Jonas Albertson. Jonas is not only spearheading the digital change in the industry, he's also a great chef and an avid cyclist. Please, Jonas.

Jonas Albertson
President of Technology and Digital Division, Epiroc

Thank you, Martin, for your kind introduction. It's always a pleasure to work with you. As Martin explained, we are expanding our offering along the value chain, but we are also continuously developing our existing solutions and adding new products and features. Actually, Epiroc are investing more than ever in R&D. Innovation is key to our success. To stay in a leading position, we need to sustain investments in R&D, even in tough times like in this pandemic. However, maybe at first it does not look much. Considering that aftermarket represents such a large portion of our revenues and the majority of the spending goes into our core components, equipment, and solutions for automation, digitalization, and electrification, it is actually a substantial level of spending. We have R&D engineers in many parts of the world which help us to develop close to our customers.

The major R&D hubs are in Sweden, U.S., South Africa, and India. In addition to our 1,400 engineers, we have developed partnerships and ecosystems with customers, suppliers, and academia. Reuse of existing solutions and technology is a good way to reduce time to revenue. In R&D, we use agile methodology to embrace innovation and creativity. To reduce time to revenue, we are using the latest digital tools like virtual testing, simulation, and rapid prototyping. A recent development is a safety feature that we developed together with the Tier 1 miner to use sensors to take their technicians away from the dangerous areas of the machine. The solution was developed in only seven weeks, which is really quick. This thanks to agile methods and collaboration. We really collaborate cross-divisional to develop value, creating solutions for our customers based on the interaction we have with them.

As mentioned, our customers need safe and sustainable solutions. Automation, digitalization, and electrification are focus areas for them as well. Today, I will cover all three of these areas. Some collaboration I would like to mention are these. We are leading an EU-sponsored project called Nexg en SIMS. In this, we collaborate with customers, universities, other companies with the ambition to develop autonomous carbon-neutral mining processes. This includes the use of battery electric mining equipment, full utilization of 5G for optimal connectivity and positioning, autonomous material handling, artificial intelligence, and more. The project is also going beyond technological solutions. It also focus on the mine worker of the future, putting people in the center. SUM is another project led by LKAB. Our goal is to develop carbon dioxide-free, digitalized, and autonomous sustainable mining at a great depth.

To help our customer embrace all exciting solutions, we use our strong footprint. We have local competence in key technologies and regional application center in all parts of the world. What this means in reality is that we can support customers wherever they are to deploy automation and digitalization solutions. To be close to customers makes it possible also in the pandemic to deploy new advanced solutions, even if cross-border traveling was closed. We also have control towers across the world to demonstrate the capabilities of our solutions, allow customers to test the solutions, and serve as inspiration for common innovation. To improve our ability to both test and demonstrate the results of our R&D, we have built a test mine in virtual reality that customers can visit. Let me share a marketing video on how Epiroc technology can support to improve our customers' operations.

Speaker 27

Epiroc's total focus is on helping you solve just one problem: how to move material through the value chain from unblasted rock to the crusher to delivery as quickly, cost efficiently, and safely as possible. We do this with world-class machines, aftermarket spare parts and services, and our ever-increasing digital capabilities. The growing Epiroc family offers a full suite of state-of-the-art digital solutions within telematics, situational awareness, integrated planning, and system integration. Let's look at some examples. The first step in optimizing your daily operations is to increase access to information and improve awareness across your organization. With Epiroc's manufacturer-agnostic telematics solutions integrated with Mobilaris Mining Intelligence, mine controllers get a 3D visualization of the real-time status and location of all connected assets, personnel, and planned activities.

Now, let's take a step back to look at the whole mining operation's many systems, geological modeling, mine design, scheduling, and fleet management, to name a few. MineRP gives you the power to seamlessly connect all the systems and data streams across your value chain into one comprehensive view, enabling you to speed up planning, swiftly respond to changes, and gain actionable insights. Whether the task is big or small, Epiroc provides flexible solutions at a level that supports your operation and business goals.

Jonas Albertson
President of Technology and Digital Division, Epiroc

Let's take a deep dive into digitalization. Why is this critical for customers? First, to increase safety. Digitalization can help customers to have a full control of the equipment fleet, assets and people. A great example is Mobilaris, which provides transparency of status and activity of all assets in the work site. With this solution, you'll not only find your way in the mine, know where your things are, but also reduce evacuation time in case of an accident down to half. Today, about 40 underground sites use Mobilaris, so the system is well-proven in production. Another example is Mining Tag that we recently acquired. It is a similar solution but with a slightly different value proposition, which makes it possible for us to help even more customers to take this step. Another goal is to increase productivity.

Our telematic system, Certiq, provides detailed information about machines in real-time, which enables fast and correct decision-making. For example, it reduces unnecessary downtime and support a good maintenance planning. This, in combination with higher utilization rate, means higher productivity. Customer testimony from the construction company EPC Group operating 40 surface crawlers and by the use of My Epiroc improved utilization and uptime by digitizing daily machine inspections. Another great example that was mentioned also in the video is MineRP. We acquired the company this year, and by having them in the team, we provide a leading software integration platform that integrates all mining data, such as machine data and ERP systems. This create fantastic opportunities to improve productivity, efficiency, and lowest environmental impact in real-time. I also want to mention Kinetic Logging, another acquisition that we have made.

Their flagship product, OreSight, is a highly advanced solution that provides information about the borehole and the ore grade. This information allows our customers to make better decisions on production and exploration. José will tell you more on Kinetic later on. Let's move on to automation. Why this extreme focus on automation from our customers? First and foremost, it's to protect people and move them away from hazards. Our machines are often working in dangerous environments. To offer people to control or monitor our equipment remotely is a huge benefit from a safety point of view. It's also about increasing productivity and reduce operational cost. Automation enables more consistency in operations and higher utilization rates. With the help of automation, the equipment produce over shift changes and during breaks.

An example is our electric large surface drill, Pit Viper 351, that runs in our Boliden Mine, Aitik, in northern part of Sweden. It achieves some 30% higher productivity working autonomously compared to manned equipment. Automation also means lower operating costs for the customers. Lower fuel consumptions, for example, but also the costs that derive from operator errors are eliminated or at least reduced. When we successfully help our customer to increase productivity and lower their cost, it leads to higher revenues and profit for them on top of the safety benefit. To us, it means higher service penetration and new revenue streams. The main revenues comes from added solutions such as hardware, software, and installations, but we also get subscription fees. The illustration to the right aims to show that automation is a customer journey, an exciting one. Epiroc provides market-leading solutions at all levels.

We aim to help customers to take the next step regardless where they are today and lead them towards more and more sophisticated solutions. At the higher end, we have commercially proven solutions for mixed fleet automation, OEM-agnostic solutions. No doubt, we see increasing customer demand and uptake. Both Sami and José will tell you more about mixed fleet solutions and status on this within shortly. If I then move on to the electrification. Why do customer want to go electric with Epiroc? Well, with our solutions, people gets a better work environment with less emissions, noise, and heat. The strongest argument today is lowering the CO2 emissions. Our equipment helps customer to meet their ambitious targets. Of course, battery electric vehicles reduce emissions. Maybe you recall Helena's example earlier today. It stated that ventilation represent 35% of CO2 emissions in an underground mine.

If less ventilation is needed, emissions related to running the ventilation goes down too. You would be surprised to hear how much of a mine's OpEx that is related to ventilation cost. One example, by using electric equipment, the ventilation capacity can be lowered. This in turn saves energy and money already from the first battery machine. A simple calculation suggests that the battery machine can cut ventilation requirement with 50%, everything else equal. As mines continuously expand, it is evidently so that at some point in time, new ventilation shafts are needed. With battery electric vehicles, these investments are reduced to a large degree. For us, electrification comes with benefits as well. We create new revenue streams, and it also means higher service penetration. Jess, we'll tell you more on this later today.

First we will hear Sami from the Underground Division tell us more about the solutions available for underground applications. Sami and I have been working closely together for more than 10 years, and I really appreciate his great drive, high energy, besides his deep knowledge of our industry.

Sami Niiranen
President of Underground Division, Epiroc

Thank you, Jonas, for the kind presentation. Yes, my name is Sami Niiranen, and I've been with the group since 2004. I'm very proud to provide you with some further innovation highlights and our progress within automation, electrification, and digitalization. Starting with innovations underground. Last year at the Capital Markets Day, we briefly gave you some snapshots of what was to come, and now most of them are reality. The Boomer M20, for example, it's the world's first hoseless boom design, which provides maximized productivity and machine utilization. Also, it improves safety. Another innovation I would like to highlight is the Avatel, which Helena briefly mentioned as well. It's a mechanized development charging unit. The key benefit is to remove people from the dangerous areas.

Typically, explosive charging is done manually, and Avatel makes it possible to do it from a safe cabin. It's a game changer in the industry. Here we collaborate with Orica, who is a global leader in charging systems for blasting. I would like to emphasize though that not all innovations have to be game changers to be smart and well appreciated by our customers. Continuous improvement is also relevant to stay in the lead. Let's take the COP MD20 rock drill as one example. It's a robust and efficient rock drill with a drastically improved service interval, providing a very competitive total cost of ownership when used together with our drill rigs and rock drilling tools. In underground automation, we have strengthened our position, and I would argue that we are a market leader as we speak. This year, we have won several large automation orders.

For example, one of the largest iron ore producers in the world, LKAB in Sweden, awarded us a major order for drilling equipment that includes some of our most advanced solutions. LKAB is also running our 18-ton automated loaders without any operators on board in Kiruna, Sweden. The Mexican contractor, CoMinVi, and Dazhong Mining in China have both placed large orders for equipment with telematics and automation features. We have also received another very exciting order with a lot of automation features in quarter three, quarter four this year. It's for a major greenfield gold project, but we are not allowed to mention the customer at this stage. Actually, it's not all about mining. We also have our solutions deployed in infrastructure projects.

For example, in the creation of the new highway around Stockholm, one of the most advanced infrastructure projects in Sweden ever done, we have had close to 20 highly automated drill rigs running in this project. The demand for automation is high, and the number of machines and projects is increasing. As an example, the number of automated production drill rigs is up 36% year-over-year, and the drill rigs with full automation capability is up 12%. Maybe you have heard about our collaboration with Newcrest in Australia, with whom we developed the first autonomous mixed fleet underground in the world. Let me show you an update on this project.

Speaker 20

We've made this paradigm shift and gone with this Epiroc solution. I guess when we started, and you can probably share a little bit more of this, Matias, because you've been there from the start, but it wasn't anywhere near as complex as what it is now. It was just one loader in one drive going one direction.

Speaker 22

Yeah. Good lessons learned and, something that we could share that, I mean, take it step by step. I mean, let's start small. Let's prove the basics first, and only then you can be ready to take the next step. Also clearly and have a good sort of understanding that things might change throughout the course of the project. We might find new things, we might find new priorities, and might have to think differently. I would say right now we are on a quite high level of complexity. We have, machines from different OEMs, communicating with each other and sharing the same real estate, mixing and matching, which is starting to be quite impressive.

I would say one of the very good things that we saw from the start with this project is that the clear mapping on this is the dangerous operations. This is the risk exposure. This is what we wanna minimize. Now we're not 100% there yet, but we're a good way towards having a non-manned production level.

Speaker 20

We might not have set out initially for automation to solve traffic management. We set out to remove people from a hazardous draw point. One of these really fantastic side benefits has been the fact that all of this equipment now can, you know, reserve an area that it can work in, and there won't be any other traffic coming through. If they come to an intersection, there's a computer making a decision behind the scenes to know whether it's safe to approach it, whether it has to come to a stop, and all of these things talking in harmony with each other. It's really the way I see things going in the future.

Sami Niiranen
President of Underground Division, Epiroc

Okay. Now a few words on digitalization. For our automation and digitalization solutions, we talk about Sixth Sense. It's our way to optimize the customer's value chain through automation, system integration, and information management. This is developing well. Machines delivered with connectivity through our Certiq solution are up 26% year-over-year, equaling up to 1,700 installations today. Next, I have a couple of very interesting highlights on our latest Sixth Sense development. Firstly, we have implemented the Rapid Mine Development project in Chile. It's a method for drilling higher quality tunnels faster. What previously depended largely on the skill of the operators is now computer supported, ensuring a standardized and optimized drilling quality. Number two is our collision avoidance system, which in short is a system which detect objects, evaluate the collision risk, and take proper action to avoid collision.

It's a groundbreaking solution to improve safety. The third one is our dynamic tunneling package in which the drill rig sets its own drilling plans directly at the phase of the tunnel, meaning that no manual work is needed. Jonas mentioned our acquisitions of Mobilaris and Mining Tag earlier. They provide solutions for situational awareness, tracking of people and assets, which is high in demand from customers in underground applications. Next, I would like to share some insights on electrification. Electrification is nothing new to us, but it's definitely the future. The drilling with using electric cable has been reality for decades. In 2016, we launched our first battery electric equipment. Two years after, in 2018, we started to offer our current battery technology, and in 2020, we launched Batteries as a Service.

The same year, we had expanded our footprint by having customers on all continents for our battery machines. When it comes to underground, our goal is to be a full range electrification partner. We focus on battery solutions and have also acquired businesses that supports our ambition to be an enabler for our customers to go electric. We also keep a very close eye on other solutions, such as trolley systems and fuel cells, and take necessary steps when technology matures. How far have we come today? We have the largest battery electric product portfolio in the market, high performance battery technology, and a market leading position with the solid footprint in all major markets. Our battery modules are delivered by Northvolt, and our collaboration with them includes full circularity. We have also successfully launched the Batteries as a Service and offer battery conversions.

We see a strong demand in this, and Jess will tell you more, later. Where are we heading then? We want to be the true enabler within electrification, as mentioned, and drive the change to emission-free operations. As you know, our goal is to have a full range of emission-free underground equipment by 2025, and this will help us to reach our goal to halve CO2 emissions from machines sold in 2030. Our customers are embracing the battery technology at an increasing speed. For instance, we won a major SEK 90 million greenfield order from Ivanhoe Mines to their Ivanplats Mine in South Africa for battery electric mining equipment. We have also successfully developed the first battery conversions, and one customer that we have collaborated with on this is Evolution Mining in Canada.

We started the development with the conversion kits for the ST1030, which is our most sold loader. Up next in the development plans is our 33-ton truck and 14-ton loader. We are also collaborating with the Swedish mining company Boliden and with ABB to develop an electric trolley truck system. The project is expected to reduce CO2 emissions by approximately 3,000 tons per year. The concept builds on Epiroc's proven MT42 battery, which will be connected to a contact power line. As Jonas mentioned earlier, we also work in other projects such as the Nexgen SIMS. We have also made a couple of acquisitions related to electrification. FVT Research, a specialist in battery conversions, and Meglab that provides electric infrastructure. Now it's time for me to wrap up and introduce the next speaker.

You will soon meet with Jess, our passionate President for the Parts & Services division, who will present the surface division next. Before I hand over, I would like to show a short customer video on electrification. Thank you very much.

Speaker 27

CSA is one of Glencore's mines in New South Wales. We mine copper and silver here, approximately 50,000 tons of copper and 500 ounces of silver. We're one of the deepest mines in Australia at about 1.75 kilometers deep. As part of our mission to use new technology and innovate within mining, we're pleased to bring the new ST14 loader on site. It's the first of its kind in the world. It's a battery electric loader with 14-ton capacity made by Epiroc. The benefits of the loader are lower emissions, lower heat, lower diesel emissions, and overall improved conditions underground. It's great to be the first in the world to try new technology, and it's a great way that we can interest our site, our community, and the mining community. It's a wonderful technology and definitely the way of the future.

It's really great to be a part of that and improving the mining industry.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

Thank you, Sami, for your presentation and hola to all of you. I'm Jess, President of the Parts & Services Division, but I also spend a lot of time or a long time in the Surface Division. Because of some technical difficulties, it's my pleasure to present our achievements on the Surface Division to you today. First, let's deep dive into some world-class innovations. Let's start with the automatic bit changer, which we just presented at MINExpo in September. This is a groundbreaking innovation, and it's a collaboration between Epiroc's customers, our R&D groups, and our service teams. It's about live work elimination, which is the process of identifying live work tasks and eliminating their risk by utilizing technology. Our live work elimination program contributes to our efforts to reach our goal of no work-related injuries.

Let me show you a video on this exciting new product.

The automatic bit changer enables hands-free bit changes on both our Pit Viper 270 and Pit Viper 290 series. Speaking about Pit Viper drills, our legacy in surface drilling, there we also have some news. The Pit Viper 291, which is a powerful, large diameter, single pass drill rig with full automation features, was launched this fall, again at MINExpo in September. The large diameter single pass drill delivers productivity, application flexibility, and enhanced operator safety. With Epiroc's Rig Control System, it can be configured with scalable automation features, including fully autonomous drilling. Another surface innovation is the SmartROC D65 with extra long feed. It's perfect for quarries and selective mining, and it offers automated drilling and rod handling while offering the customers up to 20%-25% increased productivity at 20% less fuel consumption.

In fact, it is so good that I'd like to show a short video on this one too. Our friends at Kaunis Iron in Sweden have some insights to share.

Speaker 25

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Speaker 24

José, go ahead.

José Manuel Sánchez
President of Surface Division, Epiroc

All right. Yeah. Hola to everyone. We had some problems with the connectivity, but now it seems like I'm live, and I appreciate very much this collaboration from Jess stepping in and covering just these virtual problems. That is always a challenge, and I love to have that.

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

Hi, José. Sorry. Just for your information, Jess came to the automation highlights on the surface and we just saw the video on the D65. You can start about speaking out on the slide 56, I think it is.

José Manuel Sánchez
President of Surface Division, Epiroc

With the graph?

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

Exactly. Automation highlights and market leadership.

José Manuel Sánchez
President of Surface Division, Epiroc

Okay.

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

Perfect. Thank you.

José Manuel Sánchez
President of Surface Division, Epiroc

Did you tell me when? When?

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

Yeah, you can start now. We are live. Just please go ahead. Thank you.

José Manuel Sánchez
President of Surface Division, Epiroc

Alright. Thank you. Let's move to some automation highlights. We have a market leading position in automation. I mean, our fully automated and remote controlled fleet has been growing more than 50% per year between 2017 and 2020. If anything, I see customers more eager to go for automation than before. We have won several large orders that include advanced automation this year. For instance, we have won a Gold Fields project with Canada and also Rio Tinto has awarded us a pipeline in Australia. Of course, we have many more in our books, but we don't always send a press release on them. In surface mining automation, I mean, we have a good reputation, a strong offering, and we collaborate with customers on all continents.

We are also about to commission the first fully automated fleet in Peru in one of the world's largest untapped single porphyry copper deposit that has a reserve of approximately 1.2 billion tons. By the way, this customer in Chile currently operates a drilling fleet in a mine located at 4,500 m above sea level from a comfortable room at the Santiago center head office, about 700 m altitude in a fully autonomous mode. Next to talk is about mixed fleet, highlight and our collaboration with Roy Hill in Australia. You might remember this from last year.

Epiroc and ASI Mining has proposed a safe and interoperable solution for Roy Hill's excavator fleet, and with an ability to expand to other mining vehicles of any type and manufacturer, and capability to integrate with existing Roy Hill's system for the mine automation. Since the global announcement of this project in 2020, we are still on the path of deploying the world's largest autonomous mixed fleet. However, let them talk and tell us about it.

Speaker 26

This project is the largest project of its kind in the world. This is a non-OEM autonomous solution. It's open architecture, which means not only can we in Roy Hill use it both for our Caterpillar trucks and our Hitachi trucks, but more so it actually opens up the whole industry. No matter if you've bought a truck or those you bought five years ago, or you're gonna buy it five years from now, this solution fits you. This really opens up autonomy to the whole industry. This means all mining companies can be safer and can be more efficient.

The AHS team is breaking new ground in autonomous mining by bringing automation to fleets that aren't all of one make or manufacturer. We can bring them to any mine site which has any mix of equipment, and quickly and effectively automate that. We're also bringing, I think, a new speed of development and reaction.

To change that isn't seen anywhere else.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

A positive impact. If we take one of our diesel-driven Pit Viper drills as an example, by adding more and more levels of automation, the savings are increasing while the environmental impact is reduced. This case illustrated in the graph shows that even small add-ons in the form of automation make a difference. If you go fully autonomous, you can reduce the cost per meter drilled by up to 40% and the CO2 emissions by up to 30%. If I then spend a few minutes on digitalization. We've increased the service machines delivered with connectivity by 20% year-over-year to 3,500 units, and that is quite a number. We have also done some interesting acquisitions, such as our recent acquisition of 3D-P that offers wireless connectivity solutions for the surface mining companies.

It's a perfect example of an enabling acquisition which helps the customer move into digital and automation. We've also acquired Kinetic Logging Services. This is one fascinating acquisition that can help customers to make the whole drill to mill process more efficient. By providing real-time borehole assay data and grade information, the customers can design the mine better and, in short, drill and blast less rock. As they have better insights on the ore grades and their exact locations, they put their efforts into removing that specific rock and also reduce the level of waste rock. This in turn means less rock to load, haul, crush, and process, and it can mean a lot of savings for the customers and make the whole mining process more efficient and sustainable. Then the last slide for me this time is electrification highlights.

Already in 1990, we offered surface drill rigs with electric cable, and today all production hole sizes can be drilled by either a diesel or an electric drill. The reason why diesel is so popular is that cables come with challenges. It requires electrical infrastructure as well as well-working logistics to move the cables around in the mine. Something that is improving over time, but there's still a way to go. To avoid the constraints of handling cables for long distances while tramming or, in other words, moving the machine from one place to another, we've developed support options such as our motivator. It pushes the drill rig into position without risking damaging the cable. By 2030, we will offer a full range of emission-free surface equipment. We innovate and examine all options to reduce emissions for our customers because this is what we strive to achieve.

We therefore look into many different types of solutions. Onwards, I can assure you we will continue to see amazing things from us in the surface division. For now, thank you for your attention. Karin, will you please tell us what more to expect?

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

Yes. Well, thank you both, Jess and José online. Sorry that we had José breaking up, but I'm more happy, more than happy to share that we are actually a market leader in automation, and I will be more than happy to tell you all about these things in investor meetings onwards as well. Now we are at the break. It's 4:05 P.M. on my watch, and I will give you 10 minutes, all of you. Quarter past, we will meet again, and then you have had a short leg stretcher and maybe potentially some coffee. Then you will see Jess again presenting aftermarket. See you in 10 minutes. Thank you.

Speaker 27

What inspired me to start an apprenticeship being a heavy duty fitter would be the fact that I just love anything mechanical. Working on nuts and bolts, pulling things apart, putting them back together is just passion for me. I've always loved it. It started with cars and now working on trucks. I love it.

I chose Epiroc to do my apprenticeship, just because they're the future. Their gear is just getting better and better, and it's something I wanted to take on.

Epiroc's vision of Dare to Think New to me means that you can come to work and know that you'll be supported to go further and develop ideas and have confidence to speak up and speak your mind.

Think outside the box. Just get out of your comfort zone and have a go.

The best part of my day is getting under the trucks and just fixing it, trying to get the job done.

The day that I got to join Dan, one of our qualified tradespeople here, and he took me through a commission job that he was doing on it, and it was something that gave me a bit of inspiration to what my one-day future job's gonna be like.

The Epiroc values I probably resonate more with would be collaboration, feeling like I'm contributing to a bigger picture.

I would 100% recommend Epiroc to my family and friends. I've been looked after so well. There's so many opportunities moving forward. It's honestly a great company to work for in a fantastic industry, so I couldn't ask for anything better.

I chose Epiroc because I had family members that knew about them and had known people that worked for them, and they told me how great their company was and how good they were to the people that worked for them.

I think the first memorable day was day one starting at Epiroc because from here, when I looked around the shop, what we do, I just knew I was obviously in my right place.

The most memorable moment for me with Epiroc has been rebuilding a truck and a drill that I've done in the last year I've been here. Knowing that I've been on the job from start to finish and seeing what they look like from when they come in versus when they leave, it's a huge difference.

My Epiroc value would be commitment because when I say I'm going to do something, I make sure I do it with the best of my ability.

I resonate most with collaboration because I like working with my teammates and working with customers and getting what they want done.

Dare to think new means to me.

Thinking of new ideas, of being able to do your job.

Always coming up with new ways and new ideas and new ways to do things, and better ways, because there's always a better way to do something. You've just got to come up with it.

The thing I love about my job is being able to work with great people and working on good gear. After finishing my apprenticeship at Epiroc, I'd like to stay on with them and keep furthering my career in this field.

The reason why I wanted to work at Epiroc is because my old man is a fitter for Epiroc as well. He did his apprenticeship back in 2006 with Atlas Copco, and now he's still working for the company today.

What I'm hoping to get out of my apprenticeship is being able to get my full trade as a heavy diesel fitter, and being able to work globally.

The Epiroc value that I chose is commitment. Commitment is very important to me 'cause when we go to site, we commit to the job that we are doing, and do the job properly, and we come home safely to our friends and families.

Epiroc's vision of dare to think new, to me, is coming up with new not only products, but they're going to the lower emission mining tools, and I think that's great for the environment later in life.

My most memorable moment at Epiroc would have to be the cricket match that we had on the weekend, which was Epiroc versus WesTrac. It was a fundraising event, and we actually took down one of the Simba drills, which I helped put together. Just seeing that drill at the oval just felt good to me 'cause I knew that I had a part of it.

I take a lot of pride in what I do, so when I see a truck roll out, I take a lot of pride that the job's been done well.

I chose Epiroc to do my apprenticeship because they're a world-leading company, and they seemed like a good place to work for.

I get excited every morning knowing that I get to learn my new skills every day and interact with new people every day coming into work.

First job I got to, it was on the drop box and the up boxes. It just blew my mind. I didn't expect anything like this.

I love working in a team, being able to learn from whoever I'm working with or vice versa, teach them something new.

Dare to think new is really just the opportunity to experience ideas and experience them as they unfold.

Have an idea and having a platform and the ability to share that idea and the opportunity to be able to implement it.

Just give it a go. Epiroc is very supportive around that.

Epiroc's got a really supportive team that understands and looks after their staff.

As a female stepping into a male-dominated industry, it's super attractive to see the support that I would be getting.

The culture here at Epiroc is very welcoming. I feel very supported and respected being a woman working in this industry.

The culture out there is very lively, and we're all hardworking. We'll have a joke now and then, but yeah, we always get the job done.

The people, you know, the people that you meet are some of the best friends you'll ever make in your life.

That and the things that we do here are just amazing.

What inspired me to start an apprenticeship being a heavy duty fitter would be the fact that I just love anything mechanical. Working on nuts and bolts, pulling things apart, putting them back together is just passion for me. I've always loved it. It started with cars, and now I'm working on trucks. I love it.

I chose Epiroc to do my apprenticeship, just because they're the future. Their gear's just getting better and better, and it's something I wanted to take on.

Epiroc's vision of Dare to Think New to me means that you can come to work and know that you'll be supported to go further and develop ideas and have confidence to speak up and speak your mind.

Think outside the box. Just get out of your comfort zone and have a go.

The best part of my day is getting under the trucks and just fixing it, trying to get the job done.

The day that I got to join Dan, one of our qualified tradespeople here, and he took me through a commission job that he was doing on it, and it was something that gave me a bit of inspiration to what my one-day future job's gonna be like.

The Epiroc values I probably resonate more with would be collaboration, feeling like I'm contributing to a bigger picture.

I would 100% recommend Epiroc to my family and friends. I've been looked after so well. There's so many opportunities moving forward. It's honestly a great company to work for in a fantastic industry, so I couldn't ask for anything better.

I chose Epiroc because I had family members that knew about them and had known people that worked for them, and they told me how great their company was and how they how good they were to the people that worked for them.

I think the first memorable day was day one starting at Epiroc because from here, when I looked around the shop, what we do, I just knew I was obviously in my right place.

The most memorable moment for me with Epiroc has been rebuilding a truck and a drill that I've done in the last year I've been here. Knowing that I've been on the job from start to finish and seeing what they look like from when they come in versus when they leave, it's a huge difference.

My Epiroc value would be commitment because when I say I'm going to do something, I make sure I do it with the best of my ability.

I resonate most with collaboration because I like working with my teammates and working with customers and getting what they want done.

Dare to think new means to me-

Thinking of new ideas of being able to do your job.

Always coming up with new ways and new ideas and new ways to do things, and better ways because there's always a better way to do something. You've just got to come up with it.

I think.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I hope you all had a good break, and sorry for the technical problems we had. I think also we demonstrated the team spirit that we have. We can step in and help out. Now we will move over to the aftermarket, which is key to our success. This is where we can make a difference and prove our technical solutions 24/7 at our customer's site. We have a broad aftermarket offering ranging from agreements, parts, mid-life services, tools, and attachments. When we speak about aftermarket, we combine the revenue streams from both service and tools and attachments. The aftermarket serves us well. Historically, we have had a strong organic growth in the aftermarket, and the sole exception is found in 2020 when COVID-related restrictions made many mines stop or reduce their production.

Globally, the output in 2020 was estimated to be impacted by 5% lower than it should have been. However, in the aftermarket we noted a quick recovery supported by our local presence. As aftermarket is so important to us, I have asked Jess, President for the Parts & Services Division, to tell us more about what we do within service to make our customer offer even stronger. I have known Jess for 14 years, and he has been vital in broadening our offering and developing the parts and service business. He has a good eye to new trends and is quick to take on new opportunities. In short, he keeps developing our aftermarket. Please, Jess.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

Great. Thank you, Helena. So let's start with the why. It's all about customer centricity when we wanna create value for our customers. Example is good service means improved safety for our customers. It also means higher productivity. It is natural in harsh environments that the machine loses productivity and availability when it gets older, and good service and maintenance can mitigate this. Many times, our equipment is absolutely mission-critical to the customer and needs to be reliable, so good service and maintenance also means peace of mind. Good service also means lower total cost of ownership and a higher output. How? Well, a well-maintained machine is more efficient and it has fewer costly breakdowns. Better performance and higher availability also means that our customers can produce more and get more revenues and profits. Finally, service has a circular approach to it.

It's good for the environment to make existing equipment last longer. We also have solutions that are, without a doubt, circular. For example, our mid-life services, remanufacturing, and Battery as a Service. To us at Epiroc, service means stronger customer relationships, recurring revenues, and potential to create new revenue streams. We have a really broad offering, as Helena said, but today I'll focus just on the ones that are marked on this slide. If we first start by taking a quick look at the equipment life cycle, the average fleet age is about 7.8 years, and more than 50% of our fleet was commissioned before 2015. Underground, we normally say that equipment lasts four to seven years, and on the surface, around 12 years.

Of course, this varies a lot depending on where and how the equipment is used, and also how well-maintained it is. Our oldest Pit Viper is older than 20 years and still runs with good capacity, so the actual average age may be taken with a pinch of salt. The machines are getting older for sure, and older machines need more maintenance. When we sell equipment, we have some service revenues coming in right at the start. For example, connectivity, already discussed by Sami and José, the required hardware, software, training, and custom-engineered solutions and electrical infrastructure. The machine is good to go, and during its life, it'll require parts, labor hours, troubleshooting, audits, and Batteries as a Service. The older the machine is, the more maintenance it needs.

When needed, we offer mid-life services, reman solutions, and as of this year, battery conversions. Okay, this next slide is one of my favorites. It's all about presence and that it is a competitive advantage. We said it before, and now in times of COVID, local presence has really proved to be a success factor. With the coverage, our service network, and local presence, we are always close to the customer. Also in times of these restrictions, by being close to the customer, we make them more productive. In the Parts and Services Division, we have 7,470 employees covering more than 300 customer sites globally. Looking into some figures. Service represents 43% of revenues, and looking back, we've been growing well.

Onwards, I'm not gonna give you an exact figure, but I can assure you that we are always looking for other options to continue to grow this business. We work hard on maximizing the full potential and service. We use connectivity to enable real-time data of activity levels, emissions, and the need for service. Knowledge is power to make those right decisions. We also take advantage of the increasing technological height of our capital equipment. The more advanced the equipment, the more likely it is that we get a service agreement. We offer tailored service products to the different customer segments. In other words, we provide customers with a better value proposition more matched to their individual need. By working with a systematic customer-by-customer approach, we've mapped opportunities, and we have set strategies and actions to grab those opportunities.

Also, to develop service products helps us expand the scope and size of our revenues. As I said before, presence is of course vital, and it is not only about having feet on the ground, but it's about having the right feet on the ground. Finally, we increase service excellence and strengthen the aftermarket footprint continuously. I will cover most of these topics on the following slides. In order to be successful and to be the true partner of choice for our customers, we need competent and capable service technicians with diverse competencies. Therefore, we focus a lot on training, lots of training. Our service technicians need to do a minimum of 40 hours of training per year, and in most years, 80 hours or more. We focus on important service areas such as efficiency, standardization, sales, quality, customer satisfaction, and loyalty.

We also certify our technicians, and today 75% of all of our technicians have our level 1 certificate, which includes an in-depth understanding of hydraulics, pneumatics, and electrical circuits. Level 2, which is more technical and software-driven, is now held by around 40% of our technicians. More technicians are trained every year, as you can see. To educate existing employees is good, but we also need to make sure that we have a strong pipeline of new service technicians to meet the growth in this space. During the break, you might have seen our video on apprentices. Currently, we have more than 300 of them around the world, which safeguards that we have a good pipeline of service technicians now and in the future.

If we then move from people to software and deep dive into Certiq, which is our machine monitoring system, it provides real-time data which helps equipment owners and operators to safeguard that their machines always perform to the best of their ability. The number of machines that are enabled with telematics is constantly increasing. In September, we had more than 5,700 machines connected out there. The LKAB order in Sweden that Sami mentioned is an example of a customer that's buying and using our telematics solution. What does connectivity bring us at Epiroc? Well, we can monitor equipment performance, we can provide feedback to R&D and production to improve the models or our specifications. We can also use the large volume of data in becoming even better at our service, performing prescriptive and preventive maintenance, which also helps us in planning the required resources.

If we are more efficient internally, we can also provide an even better value proposition to our customers, and thereby increase the number of customers that are willing to work with us. To know the fleet and its usage, to be more data-driven makes us even better. Another solution worth mentioning when it comes to connectivity is My Epiroc. It is a platform-independent solution working on any computer or mobile device. It provides instant access for all machine data such as operational status, performance, and location. It identifies replacement needs, and the customer can order spare parts and tools directly through My Epiroc.

My Epiroc customers and the number of connected machines are growing strongly. One customer that was very pleased with the solution was Whatley Quarry in the U.K. By using the app, they went from 17 lost production days to five and a half, and that is an impressive improvement.

The technological height is constantly increasing. Every year, the machines leaving our factories are more advanced than the year before. Good for us is that increases the aftermarket demand. There's a clear positive correlation between technological height of the equipment and the share of installed base that we cater to. Today, we are north of 50%, and it is continuously increasing. If we start with automation, if we take a production drill rig, say for instance, our Simba E7C, with automation, it'll provide customers with a 15% increase in productivity, mainly due to higher utilization compared with non-automation, which will generate an increase in parts sales with 10%. Reduced operator damage is also taken into consideration in the calculation, which is reducing the need of parts.

We have done this analysis on several machine models and concluded that automation always contributes to the increased utilization and productivity, and that the sales of spare parts increases at least 10% measured over five years accumulated, depending on the application, usage, and model. On the battery side, the technical height also drives aftermarket demand. I know that the car industry speaks of less aftermarket on battery electric vehicles. Well, for us it's the opposite. We have calculated and come to the conclusion that a battery electric machine has at least 12% more aftermarket revenues measured over five years. It varies between the type of battery equipment, but again, at least 12% more aftermarket than the diesel equipment. Why? Electrical infrastructure and Batteries as a Service are two parts of that that contribute to this, while maintenance of the diesel engine will go away.

Our revenues related to diesel engine service and maintenance today is quite limited, so net, we have more aftermarket revenues. At the same time, and this I would like to emphasize, the customer actually has lower operational costs, so it is truly a win-win solution. When on the topic of electrification, offering our Batteries as a Service is actually a type of service agreement. We provide all the benefits of electrical power while eliminating the customer's risk of owning batteries. All this with a full guarantee. We take full responsibility for the batteries from certification to maintenance, plus technology upgrades using a truly circular business model. We also include battery conversions in our service offering. It's part of our mid-life service, where we remove the diesel engine and powertrain and replace it with an electric drivetrain and battery.

We see great demand for conversions right now, and I believe that we have a truly special window of opportunity here for the next few years. As I briefly mentioned, the average lifespan for an underground piece of equipment is about four to seven years, give or take. By offering conversions, we can increase the speed of our customers to take on battery technology, and we can also speed up the rollout of our batteries to the market. We have started to do conversions for our most sold loader, the Scooptram ST1030. Next in line are the Scooptram ST14 and the Minetruck MT436. You know what? It doesn't stay there. We'll roll out more and more models, and to be honest, there's nothing standing in the way of us doing conversions on other OEMs equipment as well.

We have the knowledge to do it. Let me share a video with you on the conversion. Coming into the mid-life services where we extend the equipment life for our customers. What we do is return the equipment to maximum productivity and operational efficiency by replacing the old components and upgrading them with new ones. The customers only pay a fraction of the cost of a new machine. The revenues are, as you can see, growing well, and we see a high demand for this service. We also include battery conversions, engine repowering, and emission upgrades in this offering. To keep existing equipment alive longer while at maximum productivity is really benefiting the environment as well. Another exciting thing we offer is our reman solution. Let me share a short video on that one as well.

Speaker 27

Hey, you. Oh, sorry. Let me tell you something that almost sounds too good to be true. What if I told you that you can pay less and at the same time help the environment? Ow. What if I told you that you can pay less while having less downtime? What if I told you that you can pay less but get faster delivery of the core parts you need exactly when you need them? Wait. I'll show you.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

Extending the life of existing parts. I guess the video said it all when it comes to customer benefits, so we can instead focus on something, some results instead, some figures instead. We have a reman program running in the U.S., Canada, Chile, and Mexico. This year alone, we will remanufacture about 2,000 components. This number grows every year, as do the revenues. We've had more than 70% revenue growth per year since we started with this offering. It's a small business today, but we are optimistic as we see that the benefits to customers' productivity and profitability as well as to Epiroc and the environment. So to conclude the service presentation today, we move from a parts provider to a partner at an increasing speed.

We've done it because of our strong local presence, our improved value proposition, different agreements for different demands, life cycle management, and data-driven services and subscriptions. The service agreements revenue has grown close to 10% a year and today represents the most important portion of our revenue stream. I hope that I gave you some good insights into our progress and service, and I hope that you share my optimistic view on the future. One person that I collaborate well with and have known since nine years back that also sees a lot of aftermarket potential, and also is a great water skier, is Mr. Goran Popovski, our President in Tools & Attachments.

Goran Popovski
President of Tools and Attachments Division, Epiroc

Thanks, Jess. It's a pleasure to be here, and as it's my first time presenting at the Epiroc CMD, I would like to share a few words about me. I have been in the group for the last 17 years, since 2005, and the time flies when you have fun and when you love your job. I consider myself as a citizen of the world as I spent my last 23 years living internationally in Australia, Czech Republic, and Sweden, as well as visited customers and business partners in more than 17 countries around the world. I'm originally from Republic of Macedonia, but also a Swedish national, and I have been divisional president since 2017. Excuse me. Tools & Attachments, the division I run, is also a reporting segment. It represents 26% of the group revenues.

At Epiroc, when we speak about aftermarket, this division is included, as is the Parts & Services division that Jess presented, and together we represent around two-thirds of the group revenues. The Rock Drilling Tools Division and the Hydraulic Attachments Division merged in March 2020. So far, it's been a great journey, great challenge, brilliant opportunity, and a lot of fun, I can tell you that. Our positive development so far is based on hard work, lots of dedication, passion, and interaction, streamlining and aligning towards the common ambition to prosper and deliver. Of course, creating an open, collaborative, and stimulative working atmosphere for all employees in our division. In Tools & Attachments, we offer extensive range of high-end rock drilling, exploration drilling, and rock reinforcement and ground support tools, as well as a wide range of hydraulic attachments.

The drilling tools are primarily used as essential working tool for drilling on drill rigs, both Epiroc and other manufacturers. Our applications in hydraulic attachments include rock breaking, excavation, demolition of building asphalt, concrete, and steel structures, separation of material, and recycling. They're mounted on various types of carriers, mostly excavators, though, and it's mainly sold to our customers active in construction, demolition, recycling, and mining. To improve the customers and our own productivity and offer better utilization of our equipment, we can equip our equipment with connectivity, which offers our customers real-time knowledge where our tools and attachments are and how they perform, and in some cases, even help the police to find thieves on construction material, like we had a case in Germany not so long time ago. Delivering great customer experience and growing our business sustainability and profitability has been and will be our prime focus.

We have made some very good improvements since the division was created. It has not been a walk in the park, but the systematic hard work, pragmatism, and customer centricity mindset, we have it in order to happen. In short, we have innovated to stay ahead of competition and work on customer centricity towards fine-tuning the value proposition for different customers in different segments. One division, one mission, one team mindset has helped us reduce the complexity, strengthen ownership, and speed up the execution, so we can more dynamic and faster in making decisions and acting. This has helped us improve also our internal efficiencies. Coming to the topic of the day, innovation. It's not only related to the products, but innovation and dare to think new is embedded in everything we do. Here comes some examples of what we have done to stay ahead of the competition.

We improve customer centricity and increase our understanding of customers' needs and ambitions. This is to make sure that we offer the right product to the different customer segments. We improve the service life and penetration rate of our product. For example, the new wale system on our DTH hammers makes a good, big, positive difference in the market. We also innovate to be mindful on water consumption. Our example is a water treatment system for the exploration that enables a reuse of 70% of the drill water. On the attachments, we offer the HATCON, which is connectivity tool for creating additional value and better utilization of our attachments. CPIs, or continuous product improvement, ensure that portfolio health and superior product performance and robustness.

Finally, 6th Sense to provide the optimal setting and synchronization between the rig and rock drilling tools to deliver the best performance, longer service life, safety, and continuous improvements. Optimal utilization of Epiroc rig by teaming up with the best drilling tools for the specific application and rock conditions. One might think that the rock drilling tools are just a piece of very durable material, right? Think again. With our 6th Sense, you get information so you know precisely how your rock drilling tools perform. This allows you to drill at the right speed, and you know exactly when it's time to change the tools. Customers in different segments has different products and support needs as well as different sourcing patterns.

As our customers are found in various industries, we have done a lot of work into improving customer reach and satisfaction. We have also utilized and broadened sales channels to reach more customers in different but yet attractive segments. To reach more customers, beside direct sales channels, we work in a structured way to expand our sales channels and service footprint with partners and dealers all around the world. Additionally, we work on establishing e-commerce as additional sales channel for specific customer types. The smart inventory management system is another example designed to offer 24/7 self-service storage of our products at the customer site. It's much appreciated by customers and has been launched in more countries this year. It help customers save time, reduce cost per drill meter, and have a full control of consumption per machine and operator.

We have reference customers in seven countries in 13 sites, and yes, more to come in 2022. Widening our value proposition has helped us gain traction with certain customer types. For example, the EssentialLine working tools for hydraulic breakers that are suitable for most general contractors in construction. In Europe, for example, this range we are selling it with drop shipment, which means lower transportation costs, lower emissions, and less packaging material. The acquisition of DandA is another example. The company manufactures and sells hydraulic breakers and extends our offering to new customer group that we were not reaching before. Through innovation, we have provided higher value to our customers in terms of extended life, extended, so overall cost reduction, and energy recovery. For example, we have also broadened the offering in our popular breaker range.

Let's take a quick visit to our friends in Kaunis Iron again.

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Goran Popovski
President of Tools and Attachments Division, Epiroc

As everybody has a favorite slide, most probably this is my favorite slide. Before wrapping up, I would like to mention a few things that we have done to improve our internal efficiencies. Number one is focus on performance. Our highly focused and mission-driven organization has been encouraged to bring sense of pragmatism, prioritization, and simplicity in the ways we are addressing the challenges. In a way, creating internal efficiencies is way to reduce complexity, improve speed, and unleash and utilize the employees' potentials, and finally make us more customer-centric and easy to deal with. Furthermore, this is improving the focus, alignment, and motivation, which is fundamental for creating sustainable improvements. Creating a stimulating and supportive working environment empowered with open-minded culture makes us also having great fun while addressing the complex challenges and opportunities out there on the market.

For example, our Rockstar Award, in which employees nominate other employees in areas such as people matter, innovation score, customer in focus, and best performance. In the picture to the right, you have two very glad and well-deserved winners of this award. Another thing we have done to become more efficient is improve the utilization of our production facilities. For example, we have reallocated our production of exploration drilling tools from North Bay to Montreal and also initiated various efficiency initiatives in each of our factories, example, core versus no core processes. We have done also portfolio improvements. For example, closed production of handheld rock drilling tools and also cut some tail. Finally, we have improved our transport and logistics routines, which has also led to better customer availability. For example, for shank adapters, which is one of our most popular products in our range.

To conclude the aftermarket presentation today, we move from tools provider to essential partner, and just as in the service division, we do it in increased speed. We have more than 240 rock drilling tools contracts, and the number is growing double digit. We have customers everywhere, in the surface, underground, within mining and construction. To the right side on the photo, you can see our long-term customer, JCHX, in Zambia. By using our drill bits, they have increased the drilling rate by 66% while enjoying increased service life of components by 50%. They are a happy customer. Out of 240 contracts, more than 150 are cost per meter contracts, which reflects our confidence in our products, that the customer pays a fixed price per drill meter.

Benefits for the customer is predictability of cost, stable production, reliable supply and service. Benefits for us is stronger partnership, recurring business, better planning, production, and economies of scale. Thank you all for taking the time today, and I'm more than happy to help you with any questions in the Q&A session later on. Now I would like to show a short video from yet another happy customer before Helena takes over again. Thank you.

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Oh, look, Epiroc have been second to none. Epiroc is Rockdrill's preferred supplier, and that's proven through the 70-odd drill rigs that are in the Rockdrill fleet. I think from start to finish, from when we first looked at tendering on this project, I think the engagement from the managers of the drill division right through to the procurement, the sales guys, the aftermarket support, I think the consumables, the cons stock on site, it's been second to none. It's why we use Epiroc.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Second to none. Well, that's quite a comment. Another focus area for us is operational excellence. To us at Epiroc, it means that we want to do the right things, and we want to do these things even better.

We have a great trust that our strategy, which has been presented today, can provide us with good profitable growth onwards. As in many other areas, we also strive to be industry leading in operational excellence, and we have many initiatives ongoing continuously in our organization. First, the supply chain. Since a few years back, we have had a supply chain improvement program going in which we integrate the supply chain organization and redesign our regional distribution network. The main goals are to improve customer availability and efficiency and to reduce environmental footprint. So far, the actions have yielded results. The customer availability is clearly up, both in Tools and Attachments and in Service, while we also have reduced our environmental footprint from transports. Since Q3 2019, the CO2 emissions from transports are down 28%.

To create a stronger and more agile Epiroc within administration, we collaborate and learn from each other to define the best way of working and thereby increasing process effectiveness. We have, for example, created regional centers of excellence where we gather finance and HR processes to improve quality and become more efficient. This far, we have successfully created centers in Sub-Saharan and in the Nordics, and we aim to implement these centers in more locations in the coming years. These actions and many more makes us more efficient and all in all, we maintain a good cost control throughout the organization. With this, I conclude the part on operational excellence. Before I move on to the outperformance part, which is very much a numbers proof point part, I would also like to present our new CFO, Håkan Folin .

Håkan, please join me on the stage.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

Thank you very much, Helena.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I'm pleased to welcome Håkan to Epiroc. He has a strong industrial background and experience from many years as CFO for SSAB, and I'm convinced that he has the right experience, skills, and approach to drive financial and operational excellence and actively contribute to Epiroc's continued profitable growth journey. Håkan, may I ask, what are you most excited about when it comes to take on this challenge?

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

Many things actually. I'm very happy and glad to be able to join Epiroc, such a successful company built by many loyal and competent employees. I'm also very happy, excited about being part of this profitable growth that we talked about today and all these acquisitions that have been done to see how to derive the best benefit out of those. Then finally, if I may add, to see the implementation of the sustainability targets, not the least the science-based targets you mentioned initially, to see how Epiroc can actually reach those targets over time.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

Quite a lot, actually.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Thank you. Thank you, Håkan, and welcome on board.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I would also like to express my sincere appreciation to Anders Lindén, our previous CFO, for his instrumental part in creating Epiroc to a successful standalone company. Anders, you have really made a positive difference to Epiroc during all these years you have been with us, so thank you so much. As Håkan joined Epiroc actually today, I felt that it might be a bit early to do the outperformance presentation, and therefore, I've asked another appreciated team member in Epiroc group management, Mattias Olsson, to present the outperformance part. Mattias, please.

Mattias Olsson
SVP of Corporate Communications, Epiroc

Thank you, Helena. A brief introduction of me. I'm Mattias Olsson. I'm responsible for corporate communications here at Epiroc. I've been with the group for more than 20 years in total, and under my responsibility is also sustainability, corporate responsibility, and investor relations. So Karin is in my team. I met many of you previously in my investor relations career. I'm really happy to be here. Today, we have heard a lot of good things when it comes to performance, and I will talk specifically about financial performance. We reconfirm our financial goals that you can see on this slide, and I will go through all of them in my presentation. A couple of goals have already been mentioned today, including growth.

As you know, our goal is to grow 8% annually, and as much, Martin mentioned earlier, growth is mainly organic, and the contribution from acquisition is less than 1% per year. Currency has had a minor impact in the period from 2015. We stick to our growth ambition going forward. Of course, we have made more acquisitions recently, and this is part of our growth story, clearly. To repeat on acquisitions that we have made and finalized this year, they add about 3% to our twelve-month revenues. On profitability, here I would say that we have achieved our goal to be industry best with strong resilience, but we'll continue. We have managed to improve our profitability recently, and that is much thanks to the efficiency initiatives that we have taken.

Goran mentioned a lot about this for Tools and Attachments, but we have taken actions and see positive effects in the whole group. If we look now at the profitability, there is a dilution from acquisitions, which is to be expected, at least initially, when we successfully execute on M&A. Perhaps a comment also on resilience. Both when we saw lower volumes during COVID-19 and now when we have seen demand improve, we have adapted quickly and continuously, which means reducing costs with lower volumes, selectively of course. As you know, we have continued to invest in R&D, for example. But we also see increasing costs, as required when we grow. This is the way we work, and is part of our model. This year, we've been able to ramp up very efficiently despite the issues that we have with component supply and transport.

Here you see the details of our two segments. If I then start with Tools & Attachments to the right, you can see the very strong development on profitability. Equipment and Service has also improved. Remember though, that we have some support from a better revenue mix with a high share of service, which has a higher operating margin compared to equipment. When we eventually invoice our equipment orders on hand, the share of equipment will be higher, and this will affect the mix negatively. On capital efficiency, we have the goal to improve capital efficiency and resilience, as you know, and here I would like to highlight a couple of things. First, we have a large and stable aftermarket. Second, we have a flexible manufacturing philosophy.

We support our customers with spare parts and consumables, you know, and this has an impact on working capital, but this is really a very resilient business. Equipment manufacturing also ties up working capital. Still, the dynamics are the same for these both revenue streams. When the demand increases, we need to increase our inventories and receivables grow. The same for payables, they also grow. The net effect of this is that working capital goes up in good times, and the opposite is also true. Note that our flexible manufacturing enables quick adjustments of capacity to change in demand. We have longer lead times currently due to large orders, supply chain and transport issues, and this also impacts the inventory levels.

A good thing with being a niche player with advanced low volume products is that we can often get hold of components from our suppliers or even from purchasing from third parties on the spot markets. That doesn't mean that it's not challenging, but it's still a possibility for us. In total, 75% of our product cost for equipment is purchased, and we manufacture the core component or the core equipment. We manufacture the rock drill here on the Boomer, for example, and the brain. The rest is really assembly. We also manufacture the rock drilling tools, but this is aftermarket with relatively stable demand. Back to the capital efficiency and then net working capital. Underlying, we have improved working capital, and we still have some potential to improve further, mainly on inventories.

On return on capital employed, this has been negatively impacted by our strong cash generation in 2019 and 2020, as you can see. This year we've seen an improved profitability compared to 2020, and we have distributed more cash to shareholders. On top of that, we also made acquisitions. The net effect of all of this is improved return on capital employed this year. If we look into the cash generation, we have a solid cash generation, as you can see. Also this is impacted by higher requirements of working capital in periods of growth, and by the release of working capital when volumes are softer. As you also know, we have some limited CapEx requirements when it comes to operations, so a limited impact on cash there. If we then look to the capital structure, we have a solid financial position.

We are net cash, and the strong cash generation in the past few years have contributed to this. We have made acquisitions, paid dividends in line with our financial goals, and also paid a redemption this year. We still have financial strength and flexibility to invest in growth going forward. It's good to see. Our dividend policy, it remains, and our priorities for use of cash are to invest in our organic growth. We talked a lot about that. An example is the investments in service workshops and remanufacturing centers to support our customers. We also invest in M&A, so we will continue to prioritize these in the future to grow. We do have the flexibility to distribute extra to shareholders if we have cash that we don't need, like the redemption we did this year, but the main priority is to invest in growth.

With that, I welcome Martin back to talk about creating options for the future. Please, Martin.

Martin Hjerpe
SVP of M&A and Strategy, Epiroc

Thank you, Mattias. So now we've heard about our financial performance and how it comes as an outcome of our foundations for success. An outcome of our focus on attractive niches, on innovation, and on aftermarket growth. I will just add a few words on another way for us to grow and create options for the future, M&A and partnerships. Acquisitions are indeed a way for us to accelerate growth and build leadership positions in niches where it would take too long to do it organically. In the years since the split was announced, we have done 19 acquisitions with the main focus on technology, aftermarket, and consumables. Eight of these have been done over the past 12 months, actually on all six continents, and we are very happy to welcome all the employees from these companies into the Epiroc family.

I think that's maybe one of the best parts of my job, welcoming all these capable and engaged people into our family. Combined, these add important strategic capabilities to our offering and contribute to our ability to drive productivity and sustainability in mining and construction. What is it then that we are looking for when we evaluate acquisition opportunities? First, we wanna make sure that the target is attractive standalone, that it is a well-run company, that it has products and solutions that are valuable for our customers, and that really helps the customers to improve. Its business needs to be supported by long-term favorable trends and have people and a culture that makes it prone to success. Secondly, we see, we want to see that there's a strategic fit and constructive synergies with Epiroc.

Together we should be better than the sum of parts, otherwise it isn't a good target for us. Thirdly, we need to see a path to leadership. Is the company already a leader in its segment, or is there a clear path to leadership that we could help accelerate? These three dimensions are our guiding stars when it comes to evaluating potential acquisitions. The ideal acquisition candidate is thus a well-run, innovative company that has products or solutions that truly support the productivity of our customers, and where we see that the capabilities and strengths of Epiroc would help accelerate the growth journey that company has already embarked on. That is also what we see with the recent acquisitions that we have made. With that, I will give the word back to Karin, who will conclude today's session.

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

Thank you. Thank you very much, Martin, and thank you to everyone listening in today and to everyone presenting today. To those of you that want to ask a question, please see the dial-ins on the screen below the webcast. Before taking the first question, I would like to try to summarize what we have heard today in what I would refer to as the Epiroc investment case. Helena started with the foundation, and basically our success is based on sustainability and a very strong corporate culture. Martin spoke about attractive niches. We focus on those performance critical niches where we see structural growth. On innovation, we heard several presidents speaking today, and conclusion is that we drive the productivity and sustainability transformation in our industry.

In the aftermarket, I can kind of summarize it like that we have a very high share of recurring and also profitable business. Operational excellence, we do things good, and we try to do these things better and better. I think that's a very good mindset. On our performance, Mattias said that we create value for our stakeholders, and not the least customers, employees, but also for you, our dear shareholders. In a way, I would say thank you for investing in Epiroc and having faith in our strategy and our ability to execute in it. The achievements are really team effort, so also a big thank you to all the Epiroc employees around the world for all the great things you do and all the hard work you achieve, I would say.

You make this world a better place, and I feel very proud to be in your team. Thank you everyone, and operator, please open up the telephone conference.

Operator

Thank you. If you do wish to ask a question, please press zero one on your telephone keypad. If you wish to withdraw your question, you may do so by pressing zero two to cancel. Our first question comes from Mattias Holmberg with DNB. Please go ahead.

Mattias Holmberg
Equity Research Analyst, DNB

Thank you. Can you hear me? Can you hear me?

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

Yes.

Martin Hjerpe
SVP of M&A and Strategy, Epiroc

Yes.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Yes, we hear you.

Mattias Holmberg
Equity Research Analyst, DNB

Perfect. I have two questions. I take them one by one, if I may.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm-hmm.

Mattias Holmberg
Equity Research Analyst, DNB

The first one is on the slide where you show the depletion of ore grades over time. It showed a quite noticeable uptick in the ore grades over the next few years in underground mines, and it seems like it will take until 2040 for it to fall back to the levels that we are at now. I'm wondering if you expect this near term increase in ore grade to have a negative impact on demand. How should we think of the impact from declining ore grades when it looks like it's going to be basically flat in underground mines over the next 20 years?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

It's very different for the different minerals, and maybe Martin you can explain that graph.

Martin Hjerpe
SVP of M&A and Strategy, Epiroc

Yeah. No, exactly. When you look at different minerals and the different type of mines, you always get impact of individual mines that open up that might have higher ore grades than before. Then that's a new mine, and you actually go into a step-by-step decline across different minerals. This is a little bit of a mix shift effect as well.

Mattias Holmberg
Equity Research Analyst, DNB

Understood. My second question on Battery as a Service. What advantages would it be for your customers to buy the Battery as a Service rather than to buy the actual battery? Can you quantify or explain in any way how much additional potential you see in the aftermarket from this opportunity?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I think, as Jess described, the machines are becoming more and more advanced. Of course with that, you need more skilled technicians also to do the service. This is a way for our customers to, you know, we release that pressure from our customers, and we take on that piece ourselves. And of course, it's also a way to lower the threshold, the technological threshold, since cell density will evolve over the coming years as well. So by us taking on the responsibility for the battery packs, we can secure that we have the latest cell technology going into all the existing machines out there and existing batteries.

It is both a way to lower the threshold to embark on the electrification journey, but of course also for us a way to get even closer to our customers when it comes to implementing these new technologies.

Mattias Holmberg
Equity Research Analyst, DNB

Thank you so much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Klas Bergelind with Citi. Please go ahead.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you. Hi, Helena and team, Klas at Citi. A couple of questions, please. First, I had a question on the revenue model in Batteries as a Service. Thanks a lot for providing that revenue opportunity on slide 74. The 12% higher aftermarket sales over five years, how much of that is the higher ASP spread as an operating lease versus higher services such as battery management and charging? I guess the ASP, i.e., the price of the machine must be higher as well, or is the 12% only linked to the higher service revenues, not the price being spread as a lease? Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

We invite Jess to give you some more details there, Klas.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

I don't wanna give you the exact breakdown. Not because I don't want to, but I'm not going to. Let me say it like this, partly today we don't see a lot of revenues off of the diesel engine maintenance ourselves because, of course, we're buying those diesel engines from another partner. Part of that rise in revenues is, of course, because then we have the revenues off the battery and the drivetrain ourselves instead of through a partner. The other part, of course, is that Batteries as a Service revenue and the electrical infrastructure. Remember that all these mines, as they switch from diesel to electrification, they have to install charging stations and substations and different infrastructure type things at the mine itself.

Part of that revenue is also coming from that.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you. Just to follow up there, yeah. Is the ASP higher or similar?

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

Yeah, I guess it's a little bit higher.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm-hmm.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

Right now we see it, a little bit higher.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Mm-hmm.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

I think we're just seeing this shift right now, so it could be that it goes a lot higher, actually. As they dip their toes into the water, you know, it's gonna be an evolving process how we develop that pricing.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you. My second one, Helena, maybe I'm thinking about this in a too simplistic way, but if you look at those 12% higher after market revenues against your 50% of sales as green sales by 2030, are you effectively saying that the after market can be at least 6% higher of group sales by 2030, all else equal? Or is there something else within the 50% of sales other than just battery-driven machines?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

The 50% is the penetration of, you know, the customer share we have today. So what we're saying is that with the transformation towards battery as well as automation, we will be able to capture a larger share. Of course that will also support the growth in the coming years.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you. That leads me to my very final one on the growth target. In listening to Mattias, the majority of the 8% is organic, that we know, but Mattias referred to 1% from M&A historically. That has been higher, around 3%, recently. Are we saying that we perhaps are shifting to the 8% as almost purely organic and then M&A on top? It used to be 5% + 3%, if I remember correctly, from the spin from Atlas. Obviously, clearly increased focus on retrofit, Batteries as a Service, automation. It feels like the organic is shifting higher.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I think, you know, it will of course vary over time, but I think we stick with the guidance there that we believe that, you know, 5%-6% will be organic and then on top of that, M&A. Of course, it will always vary between different, you know, different years, and different initiatives. I think we have had a very good pace now on M&A, which I'm really happy to see, and there is more opportunities out there.

Klas Bergelind
Managing Director, Citi

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Max Yates with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Max Yates
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Thank you. Just my first question was around the service contracts, and I wondered if you could give maybe some examples of how much more the service revenue opportunity is when you have a piece of equipment under contract versus, say, doing ad hoc services. Just also to understand how much of your installed base is actually under service contracts now?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

You wanna take that?

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

Sure, I'll take that. We have about 40% of the installed base under some form of service agreement. Of course, we offer, let's say, different levels of sophistication on that service agreement. It's really varied. I can't give you an exact percentage on how much more it means to have that service agreement, 'cause of course, starting from just an audit contract all the way up to a full maintenance and repair contract, you know, there's a big variation in how much more aftermarket we can have. I can say that any time that we're responsible for any part of that parts flow into the maintenance, then it is significantly higher. Let me say it like that.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I think where we have full-

Max Yates
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

where we have full service contracts, that's of course also when we really can prove the value to our customers. If anything, that is what we strive towards.

Max Yates
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Okay. Just my second question is just around the sort of the figures that you presented around Certiq on page 72. I mean, you showed obviously the number of units enabled is now 5,700, which feels like a now sort of meaningful part of the fleet. I just wanted to understand kind of how do you actually sort of bill for that? Is that rolled into a service offering? Do you bill for that sort of standalone as software? Just wondering how the sort of revenue actually feeds in from those units that are connected.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

Yep. Again, there's some variation there, but the standard model is a subscription model.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm-hmm.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

A cost up front with an option on the machine as you buy it, and then a monthly subscription fee. You know, depending on how the service agreement is structured, it could be wrapped into that service agreement where it's not a separate charge, it's just part of the overall offering. A little bit of variation there, but standard is monthly subscription.

Sami Niiranen
President of Underground Division, Epiroc

Maybe add on.

Max Yates
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Would it be fair? Oh, sorry. Go, yeah.

Sami Niiranen
President of Underground Division, Epiroc

Maybe add on as well, I mean, the subscription fee of Certiq is not big money.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

Right.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

No.

Sami Niiranen
President of Underground Division, Epiroc

That's just to clarify that.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm-hmm.

Sami Niiranen
President of Underground Division, Epiroc

It's really the enabler for service revenues, getting the parts, helping the customer to improve on their aftermarket, on their service availability of the machine.

Max Yates
Director and Equity Research Analyst, Credit Suisse

Very clear. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Andreas Koski with Exane BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Andreas Koski
Head of Equity Research and Analyst, Exane BNP Paribas

Thank you very much, and thanks to the Epiroc team for a very interesting presentation. It feels like if you get your electrification and automation offering right, you could take an important step ahead of competition in the coming years. I just had a couple of questions on battery electric vehicles. Maybe if you could talk a bit more about the advantages of sourcing batteries from Northvolt instead of buying battery cells and assemble the batteries yourself. On battery conversions, which you're focusing on right now, is the total cost of ownership attractive enough for customers to go for this solution? Because I understand that some miners at least think that it's not worth doing the conversion, it's better to buy the battery machine instead.

How you view your strength of your battery swap solution, and if you think that will be an important feature for customers to go in for your solution instead of any competitor's solution?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm.

Andreas Koski
Head of Equity Research and Analyst, Exane BNP Paribas

Lastly, you are saying that you are the market leader. Approximately how many battery electric machines have you delivered to date? Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Okay. Maybe I start with the partnership with Northvolt. We entered into this partnership several years ago with the long-term ambition to be able to source green battery cells from Northvolt from their factory up in the northern part of Sweden. As part of this is of course you know to be able to offer a circular alternative so that we can bring back batteries to Northvolt and have a full circular economy. I think we have partnered up with one of the best player in this space. I think also the reason why we engaged with a partner like Northvolt is that we don't believe that we can develop everything ourselves.

I think we have said it several times that we really believe in partnership and bringing technologies that has been developed, already in other industries and bringing that into mining. We believe that that would be the fastest way to revenue. I think that is on Northvolt. On the battery swap solution, we will develop this solution to make sure that we would help our customers not to invest a lot of money in changing their infrastructure underground. Of course, to swap a battery and then you can slow charge it saves life of the battery, and it also saves investments for our customers. We have seen that this solution is a very efficient solution.

We can swap a battery, you know, less than 10 minutes, at the moment, so that swapping is not really a problem, and you use the life of the battery in a more sustainable way by doing it. We will not share, let's say, the exact numbers of units, but as you have seen, we have done a couple of press releases in the last couple of quarters, with, you know, greenfield order in South Africa as well as several conversion kits. Eventually we will share those numbers but not today. Maybe you can talk about the conversions and the TCO.

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

Yeah. Conversions, I think it's a similar process that the customer goes through when he considers mid-life rebuild versus buying new as well. I think we're priced competitively and again, it depends on factors like when can he get delivery of new machines versus when can we have the mid-life or the converted machine available. You know, there is cost consideration, but there's also timing consideration, and there's also, of course, the mining company's own desire to move forward towards a more emission-free or emission-neutral future.

Andreas Koski
Head of Equity Research and Analyst, Exane BNP Paribas

Yeah. Thank you very much, very helpful. I have one other question if it's okay. Jonas talked about your collaboration with other players and the sustainable underground mining project, and you were saying that you're trying to create a new world standard for sustainable mining, focusing on digitalization and automation. Maybe in just a few words, what would this new world standard look like compared to today's standard? Are there any major changes that we should expect in the mining industry going forward?

Jonas Albertson
President of Technology and Digital Division, Epiroc

If I summarize that project is very much that how can you create a mine that is 1,000-meter deeper and still make it safe? How can you make it 50% more productive at that depth? Then of course, how can you make it CO2 carbon-free? I think these are the three dimensions, and of course, all of this comes together that we are creating a new standard. It's about how do you digitalize the mine, how can you use autonomous solutions, and also how can you, say, electrify the mine in a way to actually create that new standard. These are some of the elements. I think I also flavored it's also a lot about the people.

I think this is a very important aspect of this mine, that how can we actually make things collaborate between machines, robots, and humans. That is, say, the main ingredients in that project.

Andreas Koski
Head of Equity Research and Analyst, Exane BNP Paribas

Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Gael De Bray with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Gael De Bray
Head of European Capital Goods Team and Equity Research Analyst of Sellside, Deutsche Bank

Thanks very much. Good afternoon, everybody. Apart from the obvious general CO2 emissions reduction targets, is there any specific regulation in any market, in any geography, which could accelerate the customer's decision to move towards battery equipment rather than diesel?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I don't think we can generalize and say that it's regulations, but of course, if we look on how many of our larger customers that has announced goals and targets now to reduce CO2 emission, I think that will be the main driver for this. I think the industry will not wait for regulations, to be honest.

Gael De Bray
Head of European Capital Goods Team and Equity Research Analyst of Sellside, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Understood. The second question I have is, well, it's a follow-up to Andreas' earlier question. When customers decide between retrofitting equipment with a battery versus, you know, buying new battery equipment, what's the average cost differential here?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I think when customers do retrofit, it's more because they want to try the technology—they want to, well, say, embark on this journey without then needing to wait for a new machine because maybe their fleet is already, you know, they have more life on the fleet. I think it's more that window of opportunity that we see that customers now are really eager to embark on this journey, but maybe they have enough machines at the moment, so they want to do conversions. Of course, for us, this is, you know, the electrification journey is—it's quite a lot of value that we create for our customers.

I think in everything we do, when creating value for our customers that through innovation or creative solutions in the aftermarket like this retrofit solution, this is how we can also defend our price levels. I would say, you know, this will be a very good service product for us as Jess mentioned. You know, it will be part of our mid-life offering and a service product. I think more and more products like that you will see in the coming years.

Gael De Bray
Head of European Capital Goods Team and Equity Research Analyst of Sellside, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Thanks very much.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Yeah.

Gael De Bray
Head of European Capital Goods Team and Equity Research Analyst of Sellside, Deutsche Bank

Can I ask about, you know, by 2030, how much of your installed base do you expect to be electrified?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

What we have said is that by 2025, we will offer our full range of underground portfolio with battery electric solutions, and by 2030, we will offer the full assortment, including all the surface rigs. We have also committed that by 2030, the absolute CO2 emission from machines sold will be cut in half. There, of course, these technologies play a vital role in that for us to achieve those targets. So we are very confident..

Gael De Bray
Head of European Capital Goods Team and Equity Research Analyst of Sellside, Deutsche Bank

Okay.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

...that this will happen, you know, and that's also why we're investing so much in product development in this space. It's also why we are also acquiring companies in this space to really, you know, walk hand in hand with our customers on this journey.

Jonas Albertson
President of Technology and Digital Division, Epiroc

Yeah. Of course, it will by 2030 be a relatively big share.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm-hmm

Jonas Albertson
President of Technology and Digital Division, Epiroc

of the installed fleet, or of the sales at least, in 2030.

Gael De Bray
Head of European Capital Goods Team and Equity Research Analyst of Sellside, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Thanks very much.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Operator

Our next question comes from Lars Brorson with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Lars Brorson
Head of European Capital Goods Equity Research, Barclays

Hi. Thank you. Good afternoon, all. I'm gonna try my luck, Helena, and maybe Jess, on the economics of the shift to electric aftermarket. Interestingly, you're calling your aftermarket revenue up 12% over a five-year revenue, but that's of course less service consumables and more Battery as a Service and electric infrastructure. Three questions really from my side. Number one, on margins, how to think about, should we say, the change in margin profile, both in the near term as you ramp up your Battery as a Service capability, but also in the longer term, when we think about Battery as a Service in steady state, any structural differences to your traditional service business from a margin standpoint? That's number one.

I can maybe give a go at all three, because I think they're linked together. On the second point, returns profile, can you talk a little bit about the capital intensity and your ambition to reduce capital intensity for Batteries as a Service? What are the options you're thinking about for bringing battery ownership off balance sheets? And then maybe certainly, how to think about the growth curve in Batteries as a Service. Obviously, we see sort of a traditional S-curve for your traditional service model, where the aftermarket accelerates in year two and three, post an equipment sale. Obviously, it's a more linear development for your Batteries as a Service.

How should we think about or should we brace ourselves at some point in the medium term for a slowdown as you transition more aggressively to Battery as a Service away from a traditional service aftermarket? Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Do you want to-

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

Yeah.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Take this?

Jess Kindler
President of Parts and Services Division, Epiroc

I'll take a stab at a few of these. I would say, of course, with the margin question that, yeah, we're always looking for ways to safeguard our margin and, you know, making things as efficient and cost-effective as possible, you know, while at the same time recognizing that, you know, the battery market versus the diesel market, you know, is constantly evolving. I would say, yeah, we're gonna try everything we can to protect our margin going forward. Longer term, I don't expect major structural changes then, you know, to the way it looks.

You are correct that the S-curve you know doesn't flatten, but it goes more linearly when you can charge that Batteries as a Service contract right away from the start of the contract. Where you know today when it's a traditional machine you have less revenue at the start and more at the end. Maybe the last part about moving the batteries off the balance sheet, I think we're still early stages of that and looking at how do we structure that going forward.

Lars Brorson
Head of European Capital Goods Equity Research, Barclays

Right. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

As a reminder, if you do wish to ask a question, please press zero one on your telephone keypad. For our next question, we have Christian Hinderaker with Liberum. Please go ahead.

Christian Hinderaker
Equity Research of Pan-European Industrials, Liberum

Yes. Good afternoon, everyone. I have three questions, which I'll take in turn, if I may. Firstly, in your R&D slides, you talked about 29% of your engineers working in software. Just interested in how that's developed over time, given the shift to the digitalization strategy. I don't know if you wanna take the spin-off from Atlas as the comparator here, but any insight would be helpful. I'll come on to questions two and three.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I can say that a lot of that shift has happened in the last four years. I think, you know, for the last four years, more or less all recruitments within R&D has been software engineers. Of course, the acquisitions has also added teams in South Africa, in Australia, in Canada as well. I expect the portion of software engineers to continue to increase.

Christian Hinderaker
Equity Research of Pan-European Industrials, Liberum

Thanks, Helena. Secondly, just on electrification, you talked about monitoring other fuel capabilities, possibly hydrogen in the market. Just interested in the developments that you're seeing there in terms of hydrogen capability and possible routes to commercialization, whether we could see that as an M&A opportunity for you or if it's something you're developing in-house.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

We are looking into all available options, especially when it comes to our largest surface machines. We always look to do. Of course, majority of the work we do, we always do organic and with our own R&D. I think you have seen what we do in our M&A strategy as well. Of course, if we find capabilities out there that we see that we need, then that is also an option. Time to revenue.

Christian Hinderaker
Equity Research of Pan-European Industrials, Liberum

Understood

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

is really what we're after, you know, to be the fastest one bringing these technologies to the market.

José Manuel Sánchez
President of Surface Division, Epiroc

Yeah. Of course, collaboration is, of course, also an alternative.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Yes

Jonas Albertson
President of Technology and Digital Division, Epiroc

to do it themselves.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm-hmm

Jonas Albertson
President of Technology and Digital Division, Epiroc

Buying something.

Christian Hinderaker
Equity Research of Pan-European Industrials, Liberum

Sure. Just to be clear, you are actively exploring organic opportunities in hydrogen?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

We have a very open mindset as always when we address technical challenges, so we don't say close any door when it comes to technical solution.

Christian Hinderaker
Equity Research of Pan-European Industrials, Liberum

Okay. Thank you. Thirdly, you talked about supply chain improvement program, integrating your procurement capabilities. I just wondered if you could add a little bit of color there in terms of some of the actions that are being taken against the backdrop. Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Yes. We have been on this journey now for a number of years, and we see really good progress. We have been able to shift, you know, a majority of the tonnage we ship by air over to sea, which has helped reduce the CO2 emission from transport. We've also revamped our distribution network. We have created regional distribution centers in the different regions. We're sourcing more of the components more locally so that we transport shorter distance. We have also built up one common supply chain organization, which Jess is responsible for, but it manages all the supply chain for the aftermarket. It's a combined organization, which I think also has helped really.

I would say that, of course, it has been very challenging last 18 months in light of the pandemic. This team has really made a difference, you know, throughout these challenging times. I think we, you know, step by step, of course, we have a lot of operational issues that we're managing on a daily basis, but we have continued to roll out the more long-term plan for our supply chain in our supply chain change management, which I think has, you know, we will be very well positioned with our supply chain when the situation is more back to normal.

Christian Hinderaker
Equity Research of Pan-European Industrials, Liberum

Very good. Thank you.

Operator

Next up, we have Anders Idborg with ABG. Please go ahead.

Anders Idborg
Equity Research Analyst, ABG

Yeah, good afternoon. Just wanted a bit more on the tools and attachments maybe from Goran there.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm-hmm.

Anders Idborg
Equity Research Analyst, ABG

I mean, we've been used to seeing this doing, you know, 12, 13% margins for a number of years, and now all of a sudden we're up to sort of 17 and even 19%. I appreciate, you know, all of what you're saying about, you know, making the supply chain more efficient, taking out a few underperformance, et cetera. Can you give us some more comfort about, you know, what is really sustainable here and what has made this step change come about?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

This has been a journey over many years. And of course, we started by addressing the portfolio. So we have divested some of the product lines, like Goran mentioned, the handheld geotechnical drilling, for example. We have also exited some non-profitable contracts. We have done quite a work when it comes to addressing the portfolio. So the portfolio we have today is very well suited to drive innovation, and it goes, you know, it goes well together with the equipment, so we have a full offering. I think what Goran has been doing extremely well during the last 18 months is really focus on the internal efficiencies, and there's many components going into this.

Goran, maybe you want to describe it.

Goran Popovski
President of Tools and Attachments Division, Epiroc

Well, there is an old saying, if you wanna go fast, you go alone. If you wanna go far, you then go together. I think that, first of all, we are very pleased with the results that we are performing, and I would like to use this opportunity to say congratulations and thanks to every single member of T&A Division. It's a brilliant achievement. And yes, in long run, definitely the ambition is gonna be higher. However, this year and the coming period, the most of the focus is in ensuring that we have the robustness and sustainability of our performance and that this level is sustainable. This is basically the current focus on our organization.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Maybe if I might also, I think we have been talking, you know, over many years now about our very structured work, how to grow the parts and service business with our mapping of the fleet and understanding the customer share and addressing that. That opportunity is also there within tools and attachments. For me, it was very important to see stability in the margin at a new level, because then we can also embark on a profitable growth journey in the coming years, within tools and attachments.

That's very much the focus, you know, to stay and it's of course a whole lot of hard work to deliver, you know, these type of margins quarter by quarter, but also to do that over time and together with growing this business, both organically as well as inorganic.

Anders Idborg
Equity Research Analyst, ABG

Yeah. Thanks. No, well done so far. Just to perhaps if I could pop a final one in as well.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm-hmm.

Anders Idborg
Equity Research Analyst, ABG

Just on the mixed fleet automation, you know, I think this is a slightly, you know, it takes you into a slightly different landscape in terms of competition, and there are some other players, you know, who want to do this. You know, can you say anything about what kind of consolidation goes on out there, you know, if you see other players also stepping in and if this potentially becomes a more fragmented market?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I think historically it has been, you know, software players that offered OEM-agnostic solutions. I think today it's more, the OEMs that also talk about OEM-agnostic solutions. It's not that simple to do something like this. I'm really happy that we have, you know, really demonstrated these capabilities both on surface and underground now. We are, I would say, halfway through that rollout of the largest mixed fleet that will be automated for surface, like the movie you saw there from Roy Hill. I think that will really set a new industry standard. Of course, it's much more complex because the machines need to interact with each other. The very advanced traffic management solutions that is needed.

Of course, everything needs to be done also to make sure that it's safe and as productive as, you know, if you have, you know, people in the machines. We are convinced that that is the future. That is, when we listen to our customers, all customers, they have mixed fleets, so they want to have that fleet automated. I think that is the future, and the one that will solve that challenge for the mining industry will be in the forefront.

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

Excellent.

Anders Idborg
Equity Research Analyst, ABG

Good ending.

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

Exactly.

Anders Idborg
Equity Research Analyst, ABG

Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Thank you.

Karin Larsson
VP of Investor Relations, Epiroc

Excellent ending here. The one that will solve these challenges will be in the forefront, and we think we have a good position. Thank you everyone. I know we have still people on the line that are eager to ask questions, but as always, reach out, call us, send us emails. For now, it's time to wrap up. Thank you everyone, and above all, stay safe. You know, the pandemic is far from over, so stay safe and also successful investments as always. Thank you.

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