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Earnings Call: Q1 2026

Apr 29, 2026

Karin Larsson
Head of Investor Relations and Media, Epiroc

Hello, and a warm welcome to the Epiroc Q1 results presentation. My name is Karin Larsson, Head of IR and Media here at Epiroc, and by my side I have our CEO, Helena Hedblom, and our CFO, Håkan Folin. As always, they will briefly present the results before we do a Q&A session. You know the drill. Helena, please go ahead.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Thank you, Karin. Epiroc delivered a strong start to the year with solid operational performance and record high orders received in the first quarter. Organically, orders increased 23% to SEK 18.3 billion, and this is a record which is meaningfully higher than both the previous year as well as previous peaks. The demand was supported by historically high mineral prices in segments to which we have a large exposure, such as copper and gold. The equipment orders increased 44% organically, and the service orders increased 12% organically. We also noted double-digit growth in exploration and tools. The infrastructure demand improved somewhat, although geopolitical instability creates uncertainty. Revenues grew organically by 2%, and adjusted operating margin increased to 20%, supported by organic measures such as disciplined execution and cost-saving initiatives.

As we had currency headwinds, tariffs, and higher input cost for tungsten in the quarter, the improvement is particularly pleasing to see. Looking deeper into orders, in total, orders increased 11% year-on-year. Currency was still a headwind and impacted negatively by 12%. The organic increase was 23%, driven by strong demand from mining customers, and was supported by several large mining equipment orders. The large orders amounted to SEK 1.3 billion compared to roughly SEK 300 million in the previous year. Please note, as from this quarter, we say that large orders are SEK 150 million and above compared to SEK 100 million previously, and the numbers presented on this slide are restated. Equipment growth was again very strong, this time at 44% organically despite tough comps of 29% organic in Q1 2025.

Sequentially, compared to the previous quarter, group orders increased 17% organically, driven mainly by the high mining activity. We also had a seasonal better demand from infrastructure customers. Our strong order intake shows that customers value our reliability, strong service, high parts availability, and equipment that performs. Thank you to all 19,000 employees around the world for relentlessly delivering tangible value to our customers. Moving on to innovation. In the quarter, we noted that demand from autonomous surface drilling equipment was particularly strong. Link OA, our technical solution behind the world's largest fully autonomous mixed fleet mine, Roy Hill, was recognized as Engineering Product of the Year at the 2026 Digital Engineering Awards, further underlying Epiroc's leadership in automation. Across our portfolio, innovation for improved safety and efficiency continues to support growth.

In exploration, our new Uphole Brake improves safety in deeper and more technically demanding exploration drilling. In surface drilling, the next generation PowerROC T25 delivers higher fuel efficiency, lower operating cost, and simpler operation through an upgraded control system. Finally, in underground operations, customers have responded very positively to our MT66 S eDrive, the successor to the MT65, the world's highest payload underground truck. Compared with a conventional diesel truck in the same size class, it delivers up to 11% higher ramp speed, up to 7% lower fuel consumption, and higher productivity through greater payload and more efficient cycles, all without any changes to the mine's infrastructure. Let me now show a short video from when we demonstrated its performance to customers in Australia.

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Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

On the demand side, aftermarket demand was strong, driven by mining. We had especially strong demand for mid-life upgrades in the quarter, which will be translated into revenues within the next few quarters. Within Tools & Attachments, we also saw an initial recovery in the demand for attachments used in construction. Our aftermarket represented 69% of revenues in the quarter, which is 2 percentage points more than the same quarter last year. As you know, we include Service and Tools & Attachments in our aftermarket definition. Glad also to say that we have agreed to acquire Eventspec in South Africa, which will strengthen our service offering further. They provide high quality spare parts and services mainly to mining companies in South Africa. The company has around 120 employees and had revenues in 2025 of around SEK 160 million.

Acquisition is expected to close in the third quarter this year. Moving on to operational excellence, our efficiency measures are clearly gaining traction. In the quarter, these measures supported the organic EBIT contribution of SEK 138 million, corresponding to approximately 0.5 percentage points despite external headwinds from tariffs and increased prices of tungsten. The margin progress we are seeing is gradual, structural, and sustainable. This is not about short-term fixes, but about systematically strengthen how we operate. Cost discipline remains high across the group, and we are seeing improved workshop efficiency, particularly within Equipment & Service, where execution and productivity are improving step by step. We have also taken a number of targeted actions to mitigate higher input cost in tungsten, which is impacting our tools business in the Tools & Attachments business area.

Actions include intensified collaboration with suppliers, increasing prices through surcharges, and continued rollout of our drill bit recycling program. As in previous quarters, we continue to mitigate tariff impacts as well. With this, I hand over to Håkan to cover the financials.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

Thank you, Helena. I will start then on group level. Our group revenues decreased 8% to SEK 14.4 billion. However, with an organic increase of 2%. We had a negative impact from currency by as much as 12% in the quarter. Q1 is normally a weaker quarter when it comes to invoicing, and we now have a lot of machine on its way to our customers. The operating profit, EBIT, amounted to SEK 2.8 billion. That includes items affecting comparability -SEK 22 million, which is fully explained by change in provision for our share-based long-term incentive programs. If we look at the margin, the operating margin was 19.8%.

The adjusted operating margin, when we then exclude the items affecting comparability, increased somewhat to 20.0%, to compare with 19.9% in the previous year and actually 19.6% in the previous quarter. I would say that this is an achievement given the headwinds that we have talked about. Despite the entire cost, increased input cost for tungsten, we have a positive organic contribution, which is explained by efficiency measures we have taken in previous quarters. As Helena just mentioned, net impact on our group EBIT from tariffs is just below 0.5 percentage points. If we then move on to the business area Equipment & Service, here we have orders which amount to SEK 14.2 billion, that corresponds to a strong 27% organic increase.

Currency impacted negatively also here, and here it was -12%. To repeat what Helena already said, there was a strong underlying growth within equipment where we saw as high as 44% organic growth. The large orders, which we now define as orders above SEK 150 million, total SEK 1.3 billion, which is up then from SEK 280 million in Q1 2025. Even if we saw a large increase on large orders, even if we were to exclude these, we would still have delivered a double-digit growth, which then indicates that we have a broad base and strong underlying demand within mining equipment. Exploration was also again strong, which is encouraging then for mid and long term. For exploration, it's particularly strong when it comes to gold.

On the service side, we had an organic increase of 12%. This was supported by circular solutions and, for example, mid-life upgrade. We have talked a lot about nickel in our calls in the last year. Now the comps for nickel, which was weak in 2025, have eased somewhat. I would still say though, the comparables have eased. We still have many customers which have their nickel mines still under care and maintenance. If we look sequential instead, orders received increased by 17% organically. On the revenues for the same business area, they were SEK 10.8 billion. That corresponds to an organic growth of 2%. Again, negative impact from currency -10%. On the revenue side, the organic increase for service was 3%, while equipment actually had an organic decrease of -1%.

Therefore, the mix between service and equipment shifted towards slightly more service revenues. The EBIT for Equipment & Service was SEK 2.6 billion, that corresponds to an EBIT margin of 24.0%. We had the positive organic contribution explained by disciplined execution in the measures we have taken in previous quarters. If we look sequentially, we had organic improvements in the margin. I will move on to the other business area, Tools & Attachments. Here, orders received decreased by 2%, we had a negative impact of -11% from currency, organically, orders for the business area increased by 9%. In total, orders were SEK 4.1 billion, to be compared with SEK 4.2 billion in the first quarter in the previous year.

The growth here we are seeing is mainly driven by mining, but we also see an initial recovery in the demand for attachments used in construction. When we look sequential instead, orders received increased by 16%, again, partly due to the strong mining. We also, in Q1, we have seasonally better demand from our infrastructure customers. Next slide. Revenues for Tools & Attachments, they increased 5% organically and were SEK 3.6 billion. Operating profit, EBIT, decreased 12% to SEK 404 million, which is down from SEK 461 million in the previous year. We had a margin here at 11.3% versus 12.1% in the previous year. We had currency headwind, and we also had increased input cost for tungsten and tariffs, which impacted the margin negatively. Sequentially, we also have the increased input cost for tungsten, which had a significant negative impact on the margin.

When we presented the Q4 result in January, I said that the full-year impact on this business area EBIT would be a few tenths of a percentage point. Given that the tungsten prices since then have continued to increase substantially, we now anticipate this number to be higher for the full year, and the most severe impact we have seen now in Q1. Helena mentioned this already, we have taken several actions to offset these cost increases. As for now, we anticipate that the negative impact will be reduced gradually during the year. What I would like to emphasize, though, is that despite all the headwinds, we actually have a positive absolute organic contribution, and we have good traction on efficiency measures that we have already taken.

Moving on to the next slide, where we look at the cost, and we start with cost for admin, R&D, and marketing. They were 8% lower than Q1 last year. We are continuously working on being more efficient. We have made good progress on admin and marketing, both year-on-year, but also sequentially. In percentage of revenues, it was 17.4%, and it was 17.5% last year. Net financial items were quite low -SEK 84 million, clearly lower than what we had last year, SEK 207 million, and this was to a large extent driven by lower interest rates. Our tax -SEK 657 million, in line with last year's, and also, corresponding to an effective tax rate of 23.8%, which is also within the guidance rate we have of 22%-24%.

Moving on to the cash flow. We compare them with 1.6 in the previous year. Main explanation is lower profit level and also net financial items. Cash conversion rate, 12-month, is now at 88%, while it was at 100% a year ago. Working capital, excuse me, which is obviously a meaningful factor for the cash flow. When we compare to previous year, the net working capital have increased to 3%, so it's now SEK 23.5 billion, and it also increased sequentially compared to Q4. Increased inventories is the main explanation after a period of strong equipment orders. Our lead times are still at normal levels, but given the strong order intake, we are now ramping up production, which means that we are increasing inventories as we are building more equipment. We will see increased output and deliveries in the coming quarters.

When we look at average net working capital in relation to revenues, it was now 37.4%, compared to 36.9% in last year. Next slide on capital efficiency. Our net debt decreased to SEK 10.5 billion. That's down from SEK 12.3 billion last year. Our financial position is strong, with a net debt to EBITDA ratio of 0.71, and that has strengthened further than from 0.76 last year. Return on capital employed, 18.5%, down from 20.3%, explained by lower profit level. Please note then that all these numbers are rolling 12 months figures. At the end of the quarter, we had a cash position of SEK 9.2 billion. If you join our Annual General Meeting next week, the board is proposing for the AGM to decide on the total dividend of SEK 4.6 billion, of which half of that will be distributed already in May.

The next installment will be paid out in October. With that, I hand back to you, Helena.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Thank you, Håkan. To wrap up, the first quarter clearly demonstrates the strength of our business. We delivered record high order intake with strong organic growth driven primarily by mining. Mining demand remained robust across all regions, while we also started to see early signs of improvements in infrastructure and construction from a low level, but moving in the right direction. Looking ahead, we expect mining demand to remain high in the near term. For construction customers, we anticipate somewhat improving demand, supported by gradually market normalization and customer interest in productivity enhancing solutions. With a strong order book, proven innovation, and a clear focus on execution, we are well-positioned as we move forward. Thank you, and over to you, Karin.

Karin Larsson
Head of Investor Relations and Media, Epiroc

Thank you, Helena. Thank you, Håkan. Before we move into the Q&A session, just a quick reminder that we will be hosting our Capital Markets Day on June 8-9 in Örebro in Sweden. Many of you have already signed up, and we're really looking forward to hosting you. To those of you that were worried about transport back to Arlanda Airport already on Tuesday evening, or in other words, you are not joining the Volvo Capital Markets Day, I have good news. We will adapt the program and add buses to safeguard that those of you that need to get on the plane around 7:00 P.M. on Tuesday will do so. We have around 20 seats available for the Capital Markets Day as of now. If you don't know if you were registered or not, the answer is not far away.

All registered and approved guests have received a calendar invitation for the event. If you don't have the calendar invitation in your calendar, you need to sign up. Thank you. Operator, you may open the line for questions.

Operator

The next question comes from Edward Hussey from UBS. Please go ahead.

Edward Hussey
Analyst, UBS

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just the first question from me is on the drop through within Equipment & Service. Obviously a very strong performance. I calculate a 66% organic drop through. Do you mind just kind of helping us bridge how that sort of performance happened? I mean, I guess normal operating leverage in the business should be maybe 30%-40%, so 66% is a step above that. Do you mind just sort of giving us a bit of color in terms of the sort of difference between the two?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Maybe I can start. What we have been focused on, you know, has been to improve our service operation, which is pure efficiency measures. We have a seat with roughly 7,500 service technicians, so there is always work to be done there in addressing efficiency. That is one area. The other area is efficiency measures were taken within the overhead structure, so that is more admin. The consolidation of customer centers, for example, is one of them. Also I will say general efficiency measures when it comes to transactional HR, finance, those type of more back office structures.

Also, of course, with an increased volume now in our factories, that, of course, also gives higher absorption in our factories. We have a good development when it comes to overhead variance in our manufacturing footprint in Equipment & Service, as well as in Tools & Attachments.

Edward Hussey
Analyst, UBS

Okay, thanks. Maybe just one follow-up on that was just in terms of like the actual service mix itself, so the internal service mix, did that improve in revenue terms year-on-year?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

All right. Well, no, I would say it's.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

If you look at the whole, I guess your question is specifically on service. If you look at the whole BA, then we.

Edward Hussey
Analyst, UBS

Yeah

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

had more service this year compared to Q1 2024. If you look within service specifically, I would say the mix is rather similar this quarter as in Q1 2025.

Edward Hussey
Analyst, UBS

Okay. Thank you. Just one more question from me. You mentioned the autonomous orders. I seem to remember you said following the delivery of the Roy Hill project that you were basically going to open up the order book. Is this sort of what happened in the quarter? Is this one of the big drivers for the equipment growth? Do you mind just maybe giving us a sense of how material this was during the quarter?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

What is supporting the order growth in this quarter is autonomous solutions related to drill rigs, so it's fully autonomous drill rigs and quite a lot towards the surface drilling, where we have a very strong position. It's not related to truck automation, but it's the same system we're using for both now. Of course we're levering the strength of the platform also on the rig side.

Edward Hussey
Analyst, UBS

Okay, perfect. Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question comes from Klas Bergelind from Citi. Please go ahead.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Hi, Helena and Håkan. Klas at Citi. A couple of questions from me. First on the coming back to the E&S margin. I mean, it's obviously great to see that the drop through is improving, and it seems like the self-help actions are biting, and it's a bigger driver than the improving mix. I still wanted to ask if there are any positive one-offs above the line. Obviously, inventory days are moving higher, which is to support the backlog deliveries into the second half. Did you see any overproduction effect boosting EBIT? Also, Håkan, on other operating income and expenses in the P&L that moved to a positive SEK 267 million. Just wondering what's going on here. Is this cost out or something else? How should we think about this line going forward? Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

If we start, I can start and then you can continue. We have no, I would say, one-offs that would say explains, we'll say the good drop-through. This is structural efficiency measures that we have taken that supports the margin development. We produce to order. On the equipment side, there is, you know, almost zero speculation orders. I wouldn't say that there is any, we'll say, overproduction. It's more that we're ramping up, and that gives, of course, better fill rate in our factories, as I explained.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

If I take the second question then on operating expenses, that line in the P&L, it's very much related to revaluation of outstanding AR and AP. If you follow the dollar during the quarter versus the Swedish krona, it started slightly above 9.0 It was actually below 9.0 For a while, but then it went up again just by the end of the quarter, up to 9.57, I think was the final rate. When we revalue our outstanding receivables, especially then at the end of the quarter when they are in U.S. dollars, then we get a quite positive impact on those. That's very much where that line comes from. That is part when we then do.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Got it.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

... the FX portion in the bridge. That is one portion of the, of this, - 0.6 in the FX. That was a positive, and then we are other negative-

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

No, totally understand. Yeah. Yeah. It's not double counting. I totally get it. Okay. My second one is on the T&A margin. If you could say, Håkan, what the underlying margin was in the quarter ex the tungsten impact. Then on the compensation, great to hear that you think this was the worst quarter. When you say that this effect will level off, is this because you were a bit late introducing the surcharge? The full surcharge effect will come already in the second quarter. I mean, obviously, the actual tungsten absolute number should probably go up, right, in COGS. Just interested in that dynamic and how quickly you can fully compensate through the year. Thank you.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

Yeah. I wouldn't say that we were late, but it's not just pressing a button, and then you fix all the pricing. We are also under contract, with customers, so it takes some time. Obviously, it's a competitive situation as well. But in the quarter, it was actually more than 1 percentage point impact on the Tools & Attachments, business area. What we are expecting is that we will gradually reduce that over the year. But it's not gonna be gone in Q2. There will be a gradual decrease over the year.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Got it. My absolute final one is on the billings. A pretty low sales growth out of the backlog. Obviously, it's back and loaded in terms of deliveries through the year. Do you see increased bottlenecks or lead times getting more extended? Just trying to understand how would you think about the sales trajectory and equipment as we go through the year. What kind of lead times should we assume now in equipment? Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

We are at normal lead times. I would say that the low growth number here is mainly related. This is a timing issue, and we have seen gradually, you know, increased output from our factories. Of course, you have a lead time over sea to reach the end market. We don't have any bottlenecks in the system. I think we are ramping up according to plan. During my years in this company, we've done this many times. I think this follows the normal, a normal ramp-up phase.

Klas Bergelind
Analyst, Citi

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Max Yates from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Max Yates
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hi. Good afternoon. I wanted to ask firstly about the equipment orders. Obviously, we've taken a pretty significant step up this quarter, both in large orders and base business. Could I just get a sense of, you know, the large order pipeline? You know, I don't wanna pin you to a number, but when we think about kind of individual orders and opportunities over the next few quarters, is it conceivable to stay at least sort of somewhat around this level?

Is there anything in the kind of ex-large order equipment business that you think is seasonal, whether that's kind of CapEx budgets being replenished and all the customers coming back and ordering immediately, or do you just more see this as a reflection of the strong environment and high commodity prices? Effectively just trying to gauge sort of to what extent this was a kind of one-off boost or, you know, at least we should be continuing it somewhat around, you know, the SEK 7 billion level going forward.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

When I look at the pipeline of large orders out there, it looks very healthy. It's a lot of expansion projects ongoing in the world. Brownfield expansion, there's a lot of replacement orders out there. I would say it looks strong across towards, I would say, in all regions, especially towards gold and copper, where we have a strong position. Also that we see the underlying activities is also healthy. I wouldn't say that there is anything, we'll say, extraordinary. I think what I see is that this geopolitical situation that we are in in the world, you know, it's bringing countries and governments to the position that controlling the value chain is a strategic topic.

We see also a lot of governments working on shortening the permitting time, giving foster permit to expand mines, et cetera. Of course, the very strong commodity prices are helping as well customers to take the decision. I when I look at the pipeline, it's a very healthy pipeline. Our fleet out there is also older than ever, which of course gives a good support also for replacement. Then of course there could also it's always the lumpiness of large orders. You know, this quarter now we had SEK 1.3 billion. A year ago we had only SEK 300 million. Of course that lumpiness you can't really predict, you know, quarter-by-quarter.

When I look at it from an 18-month perspective, which is how we look at the business cooking or the pipeline, it looks healthy.

Max Yates
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm.

Max Yates
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

That's great. Then just second, when you think about your capacity, obviously given the strong equipment growth, the revenues will follow. At what point does your kind of capacity become an issue? You know, can we grow the equipment business, you know, 10%-15% for two years before we have any capacity issues? How should we think about that?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I don't see capacity as an issue on the equipment side. We have a very, very good footprint. We have a, you know, a large footprint in U.S., we have in Europe, in Sweden. We have in India, in Nashik as well as in Nanjing. We also worked during the last, I will say five, six years in making sure that we can leverage this footprint in a better way so we can produce the same product in several locations. That of course supports also the ramp up. We also are investing and expanding our footprint in India as we speak. That will come on board, that space or that new factory will come on board later this year.

We are not running a full shift, full shifts on in all these facilities. There's much more room for, you know, to increase capacity. Here it's more manning for us. That's what it's, you know, it is to increase assemblers.

Max Yates
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

... but space, we have.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

It's more a matter of getting the manning in, training them, because it's not simple operations, making them able to produce our equipment, getting our suppliers to also increase their production so we can get the components. It's not about really our own facilities or space. It's more ramping up to the level where we want to be, which is what we are in the process of doing right now.

Max Yates
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Just very finally, you've called out in the last 12 months some issues at the Kamoa Mine, that's affected your service business. I see from the kinda customer, they've had some challenges again this quarter. Did that have any impact on your service business and your service orders this quarter, and would you expect it to in the coming quarters?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

We have had an impact. You know, during last year we had a quite big impact. That has gradually, I would say, it has gradually improved. There is always. Well, you know, it's not something that I would like to point out as an issue in this quarter. I think we are back on healthy levels in Kamoa. As you say, you know, they still are not back to the same production level as before.

Max Yates
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Fantastic.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Max Yates
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Great to hear. Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from John Kim from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

John Kim
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hi. Good afternoon. John from Deutsche Bank. A couple if I may. I first wanted to know if you're seeing any pre-buy or abnormally strong activity in your divisional exposures?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Uh, we-

John Kim
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Ahead of-

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Yeah

John Kim
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

... anticipated price increases.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Yeah. It's, it's of course always difficult to see if it is, say, pre-buying or not, given also the high activity level in, especially in mining. What we, what... There might be some pre-buying on the tooling side given that the carbide prices has turned up so rapidly. That's the only area where I fear that there could be some pre-buying. We have not really... There's no verification that that is the case, but that would be a logic reaction given the very, I would say, steep increase in tungsten also during this quarter.

John Kim
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

One of the things I think we're seeing globally is kind of costs implications of the conflict in the Middle East. I'm just wondering if you could give us a bit of color context on your energy cost, logistics cost, and how you're handling pricing through the year. Are you putting preemptive increases up in Q2? Is that not a feature? Is it normal that you do quarterly? Should we expect a large price upcoming?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Energy cost is not a big part of our production cost since we do very little manufacturing ourself. We do more assembly. We are not, I would say, energy for us is not really material from a cost standpoint. Of course for a, you know, would this continue could have indirect impact for our customers, of course, you know, that cost for energy if it stays up high. For us as a company, it's not material.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

What is more likely that we will feel is if logistics cost and also shipping time extends, that might have a bigger impact on our direct energy cost. Of course, if we get higher logistics cost getting the equipment out or tools out, then we usually try to push that through to the customers.

John Kim
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Understood. A final question, if I may. You've seen kind of a change in the Section 232 tariffs with regards to metal and source of origin. I know you're a big producer in the U.S. on the Pit Viper. Can you talk us through your exposures here and what sort of pass-through provisions you have in your contracts?

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

Yeah, we've seen some changes during Q1 in terms of tariffs. We have the change in Section 232 that came now, actually after Q1. Then we also had this IEEPA tariffs that were ruled illegal, and which were then replaced by this 10%, the general 15% were replaced by 10%. Without going into too much detail, I will say that those two changes, net, they will be somewhat positive for us.

John Kim
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. Helpful. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Christian Hinderaker from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Christian Hinderaker
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Good afternoon, Helena, Håkan, Karin. I wanna start on large orders. I'm curious as to the decision-making around the increase in the definition there to SEK 150 million. Is that about price, or is there some other basis? As we think about the SEK 1,280 figure for the quarter, was there any contribution there from call-off on the Fortescue contract? I know that that launched about 12 months ago.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

There was nothing from Fortescue in Q1 on orders. For, you know, we have kept this SEK 100 million as the limit for large orders, since, I think, since we created Epiroc, which, given, I would say the size of the deals that we're landing, but also would say the total package that we normally sell, we felt that it's better actually to increase this. Especially with the more we include also different type of digital solutions, automations in a large deal. It's a more relevant number to have SEK 150 million as the number.

Christian Hinderaker
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Fair enough. On T&A then, you've called out double-digit growth in North America. I'm interested to hear if that's all attachments. Then, in Europe, still a decline. Any indication of benefits from the German fiscal plan? Is there any sort of regional call-outs to make in Europe? I guess just more broadly across T&A, how do we think about the balance of those two in terms of demand in the quarter?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

It was strong in North America. That is supported both, it's both attachment and it's tools. When we look into Europe, I wouldn't say that we have started to see an impact from this package in Germany yet. However, the sentiment out there among the dealers is becoming more and more positive, and we also see that is demonstrated in the order intake. If I look on the demand, we are, you know, it's strong in both areas. As we have explained, you know, it's from a low level on the attachment side, which I think is important to remember.

so we, it's lower growth on attachment, and it's higher on the tools business.

Christian Hinderaker
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Very clear. Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm.

Operator

The next question comes from Alex Jones from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Alex Jones
Analyst, Bank of America Corporation

Great. Thanks very much for taking my questions. First, if I can start on the service side. comps down on orders in the quarter, you know, clearly very strong. You talked a little bit about a comps help there from nickel in particular, but I guess that's gonna remain the case for a couple of quarters to come. Can we expect service to remain a double-digit growth business, you know, for the next few quarters, or anything exceptional there that you don't think can continue?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

We see high activity levels, you know, across the different regions. This is very much about, you know, taking customer share and working with the fleet. It's a good balance, I would say, on the growth we see in service. In this quarter, it was also supported by, you know, strong demand for mid-life upgrades. That, of course, comes and goes. I'm pleased to see, you know, that we can show these numbers in growth of service. I would say we are, you know, we will do our utmost to keep on growing our service business.

As we have also talked about, for many years, you know, the fleet, we have the fleet out there, so it is very much up to ourself. We have high availability, the best service technicians, and a very structured approach in how to capture this customer share of existing fleet. Pleasing to see the development here over the last, I will say, two quarters.

Alex Jones
Analyst, Bank of America Corporation

Great. Just on capital allocation on the M&A side. You announced a small deal this quarter. Can you talk a little bit about your pipeline and whether we should expect that activity to accelerate going forward? Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

We have our pipeline and it's, you know, it's close to core and it's areas that we and companies that we know well and that we've been working with for a long time. Timing is everything. I think, you know, we have for some years now stayed focused on integrating the acquisitions we have done, making sure that we realize the values that we expected. But acquisitions will always be also, it's a long process, of course. We have a solid pipeline. Hopefully we can also, you know, continue.

Now we announced one in the aftermarket this quarter, very similar to some of the other acquisitions we have done previous years as well. It's, you know, we stay with the themes, which is closing the product gaps or regional gaps, strengthening the aftermarket, also could be technology capabilities that we would like to add.

Alex Jones
Analyst, Bank of America Corporation

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Rory Smith from Oxcap. Please go ahead.

Rory Smith
Analyst, Oxcap Analytics

Good afternoon. It's Rory from Oxcap. Thank you for taking my questions. Most of them have been asked. I just wanted to come back to this point on service growth, the orders, you know, double-digit order growth, but revenue growth just +3% in the quarter, and how that relates to the customer share comment that you made. Are there any numbers that you can put around that customer share? I guess a kind of broader higher level comment on how that is going, you know, not just in the quarter, but how you see that going through the course of this year, as we talk about, you know, autonomous trucks, autonomous drill rigs, et cetera, how those actions are helping that. Any more color on that would be really helpful.

That would be my first question. Thanks.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

On service growth, I think there are a number of different, we'll say areas that we're working on, of course, to make sure that we get more service contracts, but also that we get the availability in place so that we can capture the pure part sales. And this is very much about, you know, making sure that you are the most trustworthy supplier in that particular mine or that particular region. And we have a very structured approach. I've been saying that we have a little bit more than 50% customer share over many-many years because in a way we are building this opportunity ourself.

It's moving and it's trending in a positive way. Of course, the ambition here is to continue to grow this business in a structured way. Very pleasing to see. Of course, this, you know what with the environment we see now with very high activity levels that also supports that customers wants to keep existing equipment up running at the highest productivity, and that's why we see more mid-life upgrades as a product or as a service. Also of course that the machines are running with high engine hours, and high engine hours also consumes more parts.

There is a, you know, a correlation between the activity level and I would say the growth. I think to your point here, you know, we are step by step improving the customer share. At a certain point I will have to change the number, but so far we say that we have a little more than 50% customer share.

Rory Smith
Analyst, Oxcap Analytics

Okay. That's brilliant. Thank you. I think, I think we talked about this on a previous call, but from memory, what was that customer share? Where did that peak, I guess, at the peak of the last cycle? Can it get back there, and do you think you need to invest more significantly in your sort of downstream service network costs in order to do that, or you're happy with the sort of organic progression from here, from that 50% to a higher number?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I would say when we had the mining peak before, we were at a lower customer share in the aftermarket. This is something that we have gradually worked on, you know, since I would say since 2011, 2012, especially since the creation of the parts and service division, that happened during the Atlas Copco time. I would say that for us it's a very structured approach, and it is very much the closeness to our customers that is key. That service network with workshops, et cetera, that is something that we are investing in constantly, especially with, you know, new countries embarking on a mining journey.

Of course we are early on as, and making sure that we have a strong footprint. This is about both having workshops in place but also to train local people in that region or in that country. This is something we don't talk so much about it, but Håkan and myself, we are taking in decisions like that more or less every quarter to do these type of investments in new workshops with very good returns. This is not, I will say, a lot of money to get that presence and that footprint, and it matters a lot for our customers.

We see this as, you know, it sends very strong signals to customers, and it's very much a prerequisite to be and to grow the service business with a large mine site over time. We have a number of good examples where we have been very early on, and we have taken these rather small investments and built a very strong relationship and a strong business with customers.

Rory Smith
Analyst, Oxcap Analytics

That's really helpful. Thank you. Just finally from me, obviously you've got this sort of intention to get net working capital as a percentage of sales down over time, but just given what you see in terms of deliveries for Q2, how should we think about that improving or maybe getting worse in Q2?

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

First of all, it's rolling 12-month figures.

Rory Smith
Analyst, Oxcap Analytics

Mm-hmm

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

... the working capital over sales ratio. I would say we are still ramping up production, and getting deliveries out. You know, for us right now, the most important thing is that we really get the equipment to our customers as soon as possible while we continue to ramp up so we can meet, you know, deliveries versus the order intake we have had now for a few quarters. I wouldn't be too optimistic on the working capital development meant in the second quarter as such. Long term, definitely, yes, we think we can do better than where we are right now. For now, it's really more about making sure we ramp it up as much as we can.

One other factor, excuse me, playing into the working capital development and on the inventory side is of course the tungsten prices as well. Given how much they have increased, that also has an impact on the inventory levels.

Rory Smith
Analyst, Oxcap Analytics

Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question comes from Andreas Koski from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Andreas Koski
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Thank you, and good afternoon. Two questions on the margin. Firstly, on the E&S margin, I think the service share of sales was at its highest levels in a couple of years. I guess you had a margin supportive mix. Based on the strong order intake in equipment, we should see equipment grow as share of sales in the coming quarter. Is it fair to assume that the incremental margin on the equipment side will be higher than the business area margin, i.e., is it fair to assume an equipment drop through of around 30% or more? Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Yeah. What do you say?

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

You're 100% right, of course, when it comes to the mix situation that this was from profitability point of view, a good mix in this quarter. It's fair to assume that the equipment we sell, the kind of incremental equipment we sell will come with a better margin than the average margin for the equipment business. I think we will stop there and not say exactly where it is versus the 24 that we have now right now.

Andreas Koski
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Okay. It might not be accretive to the business area margin. That's what you're saying?

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

Well, I said I didn't answer it really, your question.

Andreas Koski
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Okay.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

I said it's better than.

Andreas Koski
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Okay

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

... the average equipment margin.

Andreas Koski
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Okay. Understood. Secondly, on the gross margin, I mean, 35.5%, it's still down 300 basis points year-over-year and meaningfully lower than the 37.4% that you have achieved on average between 2022 and 2025. With the current group structure and now possibly higher sales volumes going forward, is it possible to improve the gross margin to the levels that we have seen in previous years?

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

If I may just start with one. We had a question before on the currency side, on the operating expenses, which were quite positive. All in all, currency was negative, so a large of the negative items you see on the gross margin. I think that's one thing you have to remember when you look at the development of the gross margin as well.

Andreas Koski
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Okay. At current FX rates, we should not expect gross margin improvements or-

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

I think we can still.

Andreas Koski
Analyst, BNP Paribas

I see. Okay.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

I mean, we are obviously striving to do better all the time. I wouldn't say we cannot see better gross margins, but I think that that's one of the explanations why you see quite a big decrease on the gross margins.

Andreas Koski
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Okay. Understood. Lastly, on your PCD bits, do they also contain lots of tungsten? Will the input cost go up also on your PCD bits, or is there a possibility that you will gain share in that part because of higher tungsten prices? If that's true, have you already started to see signs of that?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

A PCD bits, bit also contains tungsten, so that's the, you know, the majority. Of course, with the layers that you put on top of diamond, that enhances the life of the bit substantially. With the prices on tungsten as they stand today, it's quite clear that the gap there and towards PCD has, you know, narrowed quite a lot. We will do everything we can to push this solution, of course, because it's a brilliant solution also from a productivity standpoint, but also from an automation standpoint.

I think it's a little bit. This is application driven, so it's not so that PCD will replace all the types of normal tungsten bits that we have. That's not realistic. I do believe that there. Maybe not, we have not seen that yet, but I do believe that we will see more and more interest in this solution in the coming quarters.

Andreas Koski
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Understood. Thank you very much.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm-hmm.

Andreas Koski
Analyst, BNP Paribas

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Vlad Sergievskiy from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Vlad Sergievskiy
Analyst, Barclays

Yes, good afternoon. Congratulations with record orders. Obviously, some impressive numbers out there. Could you talk about base new equipment orders excluding large ones? Those were, I believe, up 30% year-over-year and over 20% sequentially. Any particular driver for those to call out? Maybe your exposure to exploration spending played a positive role over here.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

It's good underlying activity, both towards gold, towards copper, also replacement of, you know, few units towards the iron. Of course for surface applications that's quite high value numbers, but also strong development towards exploration. We have a very solid offering towards exploration, with both equipment for surface exploration, underground exploration, both core drilling as well as reverse circulation after we acquired the assets from Schramm. We have a very strong position towards exploration now and we are leveraging that strength with the upticking activity level now, especially around brownfield exploration. I would say it's a combination, but there's nothing standing out.

I would say it's more high level across the different regions on the underlying activity levels on equipment.

Vlad Sergievskiy
Analyst, Barclays

That's great. Production ramp-up is a nice topic always to talk about. How advanced are you on this ramp-up? When do you foresee yourself reaching the targeted production level?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Oh, that depends on where we are volume-wise, quarter-by-quarter. You know, we have initiated all the work that we normally do when we're ramping up, we started that work during the autumn, given the increase in order intake for equipment. Of course we are increasing the speed now given the orders we have received here in Q1, but also what we see in the pipeline for Q2. As I said, it's about increasing manning, working close together with our sub-suppliers, to safeguard that lead time stays as short as possible. So far so good on lead time.

It's key to keep lead times short of course.

Vlad Sergievskiy
Analyst, Barclays

That's great. Final one from me. What sort of growth rates are you seeing in gold exploration in particular right now? Will you be prepared to share any rough ranges?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

We see good growth and it's of course, we have some we'll say business with juniors, but majority of our business and exploration is towards, you know, large mining companies. We see good exploration activities towards gold. What is boosting this is also that we have a different offering today than we had some years ago, especially with the reverse circulation products that came with the Schramm acquisition.

Vlad Sergievskiy
Analyst, Barclays

Thank you very much.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm.

Operator

The next question comes from Gustaf Schwerin from Handelsbanken. Please go ahead.

Gustaf Schwerin
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Yes. Hello, thank you. I have a few. First on the orders in equipment, would you say that you have a larger share of rotary drill rigs as a percentage of total orders versus recent quarters? That's the first one.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

We have a strong order intake for rotary drill rigs in the quarter, and several of the large orders were in that space together with full autonomous solutions as well. That clearly supported the number there, SEK 1.3 billion.

Gustaf Schwerin
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Perfect. Thank you. Secondly, on service revenue growth, can you give us a sense of how much parts and kits grew this quarter?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

It was a similar mix, I would say, between parts and traditional service, but then we had a, I would say, an extra boost coming from midlife upgrades. Which is also more lumping in nature because that is you do it once and then that is not coming back of a machine.

Gustaf Schwerin
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Sure. That was on orders, right?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Yes.

Gustaf Schwerin
Analyst, Handelsbanken

I was referring to revenues.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Uh-huh

Gustaf Schwerin
Analyst, Handelsbanken

... specifically. Is parts and kits above the?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

N-no

Gustaf Schwerin
Analyst, Handelsbanken

the, call it, reported growth?

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

No.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

If you think about what we could define as service where we have both what we call parts and services, and we have the digital part, then actually the parts and service business was growing somewhat faster t han the digital business, if that was your question, Gustaf.

Gustaf Schwerin
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Yes.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Okay.

Gustaf Schwerin
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Thank you. Last, just adding to Andreas' question on the E&S margins, if we take that higher order growth for midlife rebuilds in Q1, do you think that is a drag on the margin for Q2 and onwards, or can you compensate that by, you know, leverage efficiency measures, et cetera? Thank you.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

I think we can compensate that because midlife upgrades, you know, When we started this journey, of course, when you're in The first time you do it, of course, you are less efficient. The more you do it, the higher efficiency you get from the service workshops. For us, it's positive to have an, to have midlife rebuilds, and it's a very profitable product for us, and it keeps customers, the stickiness to customers as well.

Gustaf Schwerin
Analyst, Handelsbanken

Perfect. Thank you very much.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Mm.

Karin Larsson
Head of Investor Relations and Media, Epiroc

Thank you. I would like to interrupt there because time is up. Thank you, everyone. Just on the revenues on service in Q3 and Q4 respectively, we had strong demand for traditional service, which of course has been invoiced now in Q1, and midlife upgrades will come in later. With that, I know we have a few of you in line. We will reach out to you after this call. Thank you very much, everyone, for taking the time.

Helena Hedblom
President and CEO, Epiroc

Thank you.

Håkan Folin
CFO, Epiroc

Thank you very much.

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