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Earnings Call: Q3 2022

Oct 27, 2022

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Good morning. Welcome everyone to the presentation of Evolution's interim report for the Q3 of 2022.

My name is Martin Carlesund. I'm the CEO of Evolution. With me, I also have our CFO, Jacob Kaplan. As usual, I will start with some comments on our performance in the quarter. I will then hand over to Jacob for a closer look at our financials, and after that, I'll hand off the presentation with an outlook for the rest of the year. We are of course happy to take all of your questions.

Next slide, please. I'm very satisfied to report consistently strong results for the Q3.

The great result in the quarter is an outcome of our investment in the new games and studios and all the hard work performed by our employees.

We see a continuously increasing demand for our products and no signs of consumer slowdown. After landing in North America, Evolution has significant growth in the market.

The opportunities there are very promising and we'll continue to substantially invest in North America. In the quarter, we launched a new studio in Connecticut, our fourth studio in the U.S. Recently, we have also launched several dedicated live dealer environments in our Michigan studio. These environments are customized areas of live studio that are assigned to specific operators.

The dedicated studios look amazing and will uniquely incorporate each operator's branding to give players experience that is unique to the operator's brand. The construction of a second studio in New Jersey to cover for increasing demand there goes well, and I'm looking forward to launch it in the not-too-distant future.

In the quarter, we have also launched Live Craps in Pennsylvania, and after the end of the period, on the eighteenth of October, we also launched Craps in New Jersey. Craps is another step for Evolution in expanding its portfolio in the U.S. and giving players in Pennsylvania and New Jersey a full suite of live casino options.

This game is the very first online live Craps game in the industry, and the launch of the game is a landmark moment for Evolution. We're very proud to be able to operate our operators and their players in the state of Pennsylvania and New Jersey. To predict the next state that will pass legislation to allow iGaming is difficult. As I see it's more a question of when and not if for many states.

The positive news is that we will still have a large catalog of products that haven't been released in the U.S. yet. While waiting for new states to legislate, growth will continue as we introduce more of our products, driving the share of Live upwards. All in all, we have great momentum in North America, and we are well prepared to continue that development.

This quarter was the first one with Nolimit City consolidated. Our long-term ambition is to become the world leading provider of online casino, and we have high expectation that Nolimit City will be an important piece to achieve these ambitions.

We, of course, very much look forward to add Nolimit City as soon as possible to our one-stop-shop, making them available for all customers worldwide.

The high demand for our product means that we must expand in existing studios and build new ones to keep up the pace with that demand. In the Q2, we launched one studio in Madrid, one in Armenia, and we are right now expanding both studios at a fast pace, as well as expanding in essentially all other existing locations.

I also want to mention that we are delighted to have been crowned the Best Live Casino Supplier at the 2022 SBC Awards in Barcelona and Digital Industry Supplier at the Global Gaming Awards 2022 in Las Vegas. We feel very honored and want to say a big thank you to all of our people who made this happen. Now, let's move to the coming slides and see the effect of all our efforts on the numbers. Operator, next slide, please. Q3 2022 is a strong quarter for Evolution.

Revenues increased by 37% to EUR 377.5 million. EBITDA increased by 35% to EUR 261 million corresponding to a margin of 69%. There is more cost inflation than we expected at the start of the year. Energy prices, transport service and almost any supply is increasing fast in costs. However, we reiterate our guided margin for 2022 as being 69% to 71%.

We have not seen any apparent signs of consumer slowdown, but we need to acknowledge that the world is in a very unstable situation. In this context, it's important to state that the investments will continue to be high, margin might vary quarter-on-quarter, and if there is a trade-off between growth and margin, we will always prioritize growth and market share.

Our RNG business amounted to 18% of total revenues in Q3, and Live represents 82%. RNG revenue, now including Nolimit City, this quarter amounts to EUR 68.1 million, a growth of 2% compared to the pro forma revenue of Q3 2021. Without NLC, our old RNG brands had an n/a growth of slightly above 2% for the first nine months of the year. This is not yet satisfactory.

We have delivered too few slots games during the last third. However, we remain fully committed to the target of double-digit growth. We see great potential in our slots and are now focusing on accelerating rollouts. On the other hand, momentum in Live is strong. Within the vertical, the growth amounted to 45% compared to Q3 last year.

I saw fantastic numbers in Live and focus on accelerating rollouts on RNG, but overall, I'm pleased with the financial performance in the Q3, and we are definitely well-placed to deliver a strong finish to the year. As always, we will relentlessly further strengthen our market share and continue to widen the gap to competitors. Next slide, please.

At the end of the period, we're close to 16,000 Evolutioners. Expanding our studio capacity means we need a high recruiting base. In the quarter, we increased the numbers of employees with 620 persons. The increase in staff year on year amounted to over 3,600 employees corresponding to an increase of close to 30%.

We will continue to increase headcount during the year as we expand in our new studios in Spain and Armenia in Connecticut, as well as expanding in other existing studios. With the fast growth of the company, we need to have an equal high pace of our recruitment. Therefore, recruitment will continue to be one of our priorities and one of our key processes.

Hiring and retaining the best people is tough. The best way to hire and keep top people is to create a company culture where the best people want to work. You can't buy culture, it's something that you create. Therefore, a great culture is key when growing at such a pace that we are doing, and we will always try to improve ourselves as an attractive employer. Next slide, please.

I mentioned last quarter that we wanted to replace bet spots as a measure of player activity on our network. Bet spots slide was only related to live games, it did not cover the whole network. It represented an uneven distribution of different game types, and it simply had played out its role as a performance indicator. This slide is an attempt at the new measure of activity on our network.

It shows development of Game Rounds. A Game Round is what it sounds like, one round of a game, one round of roulette, one hand of baccarat, or one spin of a slot. They all count as one Game Round. There are still differences between games.

For example, since one hand of blackjack takes longer than one spin of a slot, each Game Round of blackjack typically carries a higher bet, so all Game Rounds are not equal in value. In the chart, the index value for Game Rounds from Live and RNG are weighted according to the revenue contribution. This gives us a joint index that includes all games and the complete network worldwide. I think that the Game Rounds index over time will give a much better view of the activity in our complete network.

Game Rounds will now not always correlate exactly with revenue each quarter. As you see in the chart, we had a nice development of activity this year. In the Q3, activity as measured by Game Rounds increased by 70% year-on-year. This is clearly higher than our revenue growth in the quarter.

One reason for that is that we are adding many Game Rounds from new markets, like for example, Latin America. In the beginning, the bets tend to be smaller for new markets, but typically some markets also have smaller average bet sizes than others. Altogether, this means the Game Rounds don't over shorter time periods correlate exactly to revenue.

Next slide, please. Innovation and the best game will always drive Evolution. We continue to innovate, substantially enhance, and refine the playing experience. End-user entertainment and satisfaction is and will always be the absolute priority. Going live in early November, we have two new exciting football-themed tables, Football Studio Dice and Football Studio Roulette. That's just in time to take advantage of the extra interest in football being generated by the World Cup. Another game in Q4 is the new Free Bet Blackjack, a variation of our classic Blackjack.

What makes this version different are exciting free bets. Also, get ready for a gripping experience with Dead or Alive Saloon, a card game set in a fantastic Wild West saloon style environment. That environment is the one you saw on the absolute first slide in this presentation. You remember it? It's truly amazing. Go back, look at it. In our RNG vertical, Superstars from NetEnt is like an award ceremony. NetEnt has gathered a group of their most beloved star characters and jammed them into single online slots, accompanied each of them with their own feature.

This is far from our ordinary slots. The game launches in Q3 have been well-received by players. Crazy Coin Flip is truly unique game, combines the best of two worlds, slots and live game shows.

I'm also delighted to observe that Monopoly Big Baller has been an instant success with the players. The players' interest has been huge, not only now for this novelty, but also then for our Monopoly Live game show, where the players count is hitting never-before-seen height. Lightning Roulette continues its remarkable success story and is rapidly expanding.

In quarter two, new localized studios have been launched for Greek- and Hindi-speaking players, which means that Lightning Roulette now is available in eight different languages. On that subject, Dream Catcher, our mega hit money wheel, will soon also be available as a localized version called the Imperial Quest, launched in 2023. Beyond everything else, our focus has always been to innovate and push boundaries to enhance the player experience.

This goes for Live as well as for RNG, and I'm excited about how the new games that we have in line-up for 2022 will further confirm this statement. Operator, please, let's move to the next slide. This slide shows the breakdown of our revenue by geographic region. We see very good growth year-over-year in all our geographical markets, and it's evident that the demand is truly global. Year-over-year, the growth in Asia amounted to 66% with the highest growth rate of all regions in the Q3.

In North America, we saw continued strong growth of 57% year-over-year. We see good potential in both these markets and expect continued high growth rates going forward. Europe as a whole, including U.K. and Nordics, showed a growth of healthy 12% year-over-year.

Once U.K. was our biggest market, now it's the smallest, amounting to 5.5% of the revenues. In the quarter, also, the year-on-year growth rate was the smallest amount, amounting to modest 8.4%. The Nordics saw a strong growth of 19%, but it's worth noting that this table does not include pro forma figures, so the growth year-on-year can to some extent be attributed to Nolimit City.

The rest of Europe had growth of 1 to close to 12% year-on-year. The European market is the most mature, and as we grow fast in the other markets, the share of the total revenue from Europe decreased. One year ago, the whole of Europe amount to 61.4% of the revenue, and now a year later, that number is 42%.

Of course, Europe is still an important market for us, and we feel there is much we can do still to grow our business, but it shows that the increasing globalization of our customer base makes a difference.

Our other, including Latin America, Africa, remaining part of the world, shows a good growth over 62% year-on-year. In this market segment, it's Latin America that is the main driver for growth.

I will now pass on to Jacob, who will speak more about financial details.

Next slide, please.

Jacob Kaplan
CFO, Evolution

Thank you, Martin, and good morning, everyone.

We'll now move on to a couple of slides with a closer look at financial development during the period. I'm on slide number 8. Revenue amounts to EUR 378.5 million in the quarter, as you see in the blue bar in the chart. That's made up of EUR 310.4 million related to Live Casino and EUR 68.1 million from RNG games. Live Casino is just over 80% of total revenue, as Martin mentioned, and reports a very strong development in the quarter.

We add on over EUR 30 million in revenue from the previous quarter. It's the largest absolute increase we've ever had for Live Casino in a single quarter.

The year-on-year growth rate is 45%, which is roughly in line with the average growth rate from the past two years. Overall, very, very strong. As the base, of course, increases the percentage growth it's harder and harder to maintain. RNG includes Nolimit City for the first time in this quarter. It contributes EUR 7.5 million. The growth rate for RNG, just looking at the reported figures, is just over 10% in the quarter.

That takes, however, it includes the acquired revenue. The growth compared to pro forma figures is 2% in the quarter. We remain committed to the target of double-digit growth for RNG, and we have communicated also in previous quarters that development will not be straight line towards that goal.

I must admit that the development in this quarter is weaker than I expected, let's say a few quarters ago. As Martin pointed out earlier, the short way to explain is the development is that we've not delivered as planned, and we simply have not released enough new games.

Naturally something that we are working on to improve, and we're confident we will get there, but it has taken a bit longer, and we see the effects of that weaker RNG performance in this quarter. EBITDA for the quarter amounts to EUR 261 million, giving an EBITDA margin of 69% in the quarter. Year-to-date EBITDA margin for the nine-month period is 69.5%. We're still in line with our margin guidance of 69%-71% for the year. We make no change to that guidance.

As you do see in the slide, margins were a little bit higher during the first two quarters of this year. Realistically, I see us at the low end of that guided range for the full year. The general development of the macroeconomy during the year with increasing inflation and cost increases as we have seen in many areas has affected also our cost levels during the year. Zooming out a bit and taking a multi-year view, we see a continued strong demand for our games and that the development of online casino is really in its early stages in many ways.

While cost levels do put some pressure on margins right now, we will continue to invest in growth, capture as much of this developing market as we can, and as we've said many times, prioritize growth over margins.

Operator, let's move to the next slide, please.

This slide shows our P&L in a little bit more detail. I'll walk through the table from the top. Again, live revenue, EUR 310 million. That's fully comparable to EUR 214 million in the Q3 of 2021, an organic growth of 45%. So far this year, January to September, live revenue amounts to EUR 853 million, which is a 42% increase over the same period last year. RNG amounts to EUR 68.5 million, and as covered on the previous slide, the reported number is a 10% growth from previous year, but that includes Nolimit City, in this quarter and not in the comparison quarter here. It's with us for the first time in this quarter.

Total revenue, EUR 378 million, increase of 37.1% compared to reported revenue Q3 2021. Looking at the year-to-date figures, revenue amounts to EUR 1,049 million, an increase of 36.5% compared to reported figures 2021. There are some acquisitions during this period with Big Time Gaming coming into the group from Q3 2021 and Nolimit City added this quarter.

If I adjust for these acquisitions to make the two periods comparable, I would estimate organic growth at about 32% for the company as a whole in the nine-month period. Moving down to expenses. Personnel expenses amount to EUR 76.3 million in the quarter. It's an increase of almost EUR 25 million compared to the same period last year.

Includes increase in staff costs in basically all our teams, commercial operation, engineering, business support, all expanding compared to last year. Depreciation amount to almost EUR 25 million. That includes EUR 11.4 million in amortization of intangibles related to acquisitions of NetEnt, Big Time Gaming, and Nolimit City, where Nolimit City adds about EUR 1.1 million of that amortization of intangibles in this quarter.

Moving down, other operating expenses include items such as consumable equipment, communication costs, consultant royalty fees, total of EUR 41.2 million in the quarter and an increase of 31% compared to the same period last year. Summing up total operating expenses, total EUR 142 million, an increase of 36% compared to the reported figures of the same period last year.

Operating profit, on the next line, EUR 236 million and the EUR 658 million for the year-to-date period, increases of 37% and 40% respectively. Tax for the period is at EUR 16.4 million, which gives a tax rate of 6.9%. Similar level, looking at the year-to-date period, it's about 1% higher than the same period last year. Bit of increase on tax as we talked about in the past.

All this sums up to the profit for the three-month period of EUR 221 million, equaling an EPS of EUR 1.02 per share for the quarter, increase of 44% compared to the same quarter last year.

For the rolling twelve-month period, earnings per share is now 2.85 EUR per share. We'll go to the next slide please, operator. Before handing back to Martin, a look at the cash flow and financial position. We'll start to the left with the chart to the left-hand side, where you see capital expenditure.

The gray part of the bars, the top part represents the investment in tangible assets, so that's our studio construction projects. In the Q3, CapEx in tangible assets is EUR 13.9 million, similar level to earlier quarters this year. As Martin mentioned, we've had a very high activity in studio projects this year, and we expect to continue investment at a similar pace during the final quarter of the year.

The blue part of the bar relates to investment in intangible assets. That's development of new games and features to the platform. It's at EUR 9.6 million in the quarter, also relatively similar to previous quarters and also here we expect the pace to be maintained. In the beginning of the year, we estimated total CapEx for both intangibles and tangibles to about EUR 90 million for full year 2022.

For the first nine months, the total is EUR 69 million, so the pace is just slightly higher than EUR 90 million for this year. We'll move on to the middle of the slide, where the chart shows operating cash flow.

In the quarter, it's over EUR 200 million, EUR 213 million operating cash flow in relation to EBITDA or cash conversion as we call it here in the slide. On a rolling twelve-month basis, it's still on a very good level, around 75%.

To the far right in the slide, balance sheet. We maintain a strong financial position. As Martin mentioned, we're debt-free. The strong balance sheet is something that's an asset coming into an uncertain macroeconomic environment like the one we're experiencing right now. Our cash position is EUR 319 million at the end of September. During the quarter, we have made first payment of the Nolimit City deal, so that was an upfront payment of EUR 200 million.

That sort of has already come out of the cash here. That was the end of my prepared comments.

I'll hand back to you, Martin, and we'll take questions after that.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Thank you, Jacob Kaplan.

We are on slide eleven, now. A few words to conclude this report presentation. Demand for our product is a global phenomenon, and we need to invest in product and studio capacity in order to reach all corners of the world, and we have to stay on our toes and never be laid back and content in order to keep increasing the distance to our competitors. What you can expect from Evolution is that we will continue to push boundaries, create the best games with the highest player entertainment value for the future.

In addition to product development, we continue to invest for the future in the form of new studios.

We're constantly working hard to restructure the cost base to reach effectiveness and cost awareness, and thus, I'm confident that we will be able to fulfill our margin guidance for the year.

Going forward from here, we will have high focus on accelerating roll-outs and increasing this growth on slots, and I'm confident that our RNG vertical has a bright future. Latin America is still in its infancy regarding online casino, and I expect the market to continue to develop well. We have great momentum in the market, and we are well prepared to continue our expansion here.

Our newly launched studios in Madrid and Yerevan are still small regarding the number of tables, but we are ramping up at a fast pace, and they will all contribute to continued growth in 2023.

We're currently in full preparation of the roadmap for 2023, developing is going on in full speed, and I can assure you it looks very good. Last week, we had an official opening of our studio in Yerevan, Armenia, and what you see on the next slide is the entrance of our new state-of-the-art studio early in the morning before we started the ceremony.

It's a beautiful, simply state-of-the-art addition to Evolution. Today, we have about 200 employees in Armenia, in the Armenian team, but in the coming years, the studio will proudly contribute to local society by creating thousands of jobs for young, talented Armenians looking to start a career in an international environment.

The difference Evolution make for these people's life make me very proud.

Evolution has a great speed forward, and it's built of a 16,000 crew of fantastic talent. My core is built of huge desire to win, and my job is constantly to push myself and the 16,000 employees to the next level. It's actually as simple as that.

Thank you all for listening, and we'll speak in a couple of months again. Now let's move to questions, please.

Operator 1

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star and one on your telephone keypad.

Operator 2

If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

The first question comes from Joseph McNamara from Citi. Please go ahead.

Joseph McNamara
Analyst, Citi

Good Morning, Martin, Good Morning, Jacob. Hope you're well.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Good Morning.

Joseph McNamara
Analyst, Citi

My first question, I'd like to ask you about your 88 game launch target for 2022, please.

Especially, given you called out kind of delivering two shoe games this quarter, driver of a weaker RNG growth. Could you tell us what sort of number you're on as it stands? Also kind of where, or whether you're still comfortable to hit the 88 targets for the full year.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Without going into details on it, but we're around 60 when it comes to release, and we are on target for our 88.

Joseph McNamara
Analyst, Citi

Okay, excellent. Second question, could you touch on North America, please, and the trends you're seeing there, namely just in the context of growth has slowed sequentially a bit more than other regions, despite kind of the obvious tailwinds in that market. I guess a question of whether you're maintaining share there.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

It can fluctuate quarter-on-quarter. There is no real reason for it. Honestly, I think we actually gained market share this quarter, but that's just normal fluctuations, I would say.

Joseph McNamara
Analyst, Citi

Okay, very clear.

Finally, it would be fantastic if you could provide some color on the salary cost pressure across the business. This is just in context, I guess, of personnel expenses per employee increasing a fair bit sequentially.

I guess are there any notable regions to point out in this context?

Is kind of, I guess, personnel expenses per employee a good metric to kind of look at?

Is the Q3 level that we've seen, expected for kind of Q4 and beyond?

Thank you.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

It's hard to point out any one region. As I said, in general, there is cost increase in many areas and it's the inflationary pressures that we see in the society at large. I think that also comes through. Wage inflation, I think probably more, some of that's probably a bit more in front of us. It is coming into next year when salaries are reviewed again. That's normally an annual process for the most part.

It's a little bit higher this quarter. You see that in the numbers. It's a number. When you do this sort of the cost per employee, they also fluctuate a bit quarter to quarter.

It can depend a little bit on sort of exactly how much we hire in a certain period. There, there's a bit of movement there. I think we were similar levels on salary per employee in Q1 to what we are now. It kind of, it's not dramatic. Yes, the trend is for higher costs. That's there.

Joseph McNamara
Analyst, Citi

Excellent. Very clear. Thank you very much, guys.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Thank you.

Operator 2

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Oscar Rönnkvist with ABG. Please go ahead.

Oscar Rönnkvist
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Thank you. Good morning, Martin and Jacob. Thanks for taking my question.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Good morning.

Oscar Rönnkvist
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

I would like to start with your top line development. You obviously had quite nice sequential growth in live. Could you give us any comments on to what extent any skewing factors boosted this number?

Mainly thinking about the large payouts you mentioned in Q2.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

No. There is no skewing factors. It's more organic growth this quarter. I have no specifics to point out in any direction.

Joseph McNamara
Analyst, Citi

Funny how we never mentioned the absence of payouts, right?

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

No, it's a fairly normal year, I would say.

Oscar Rönnkvist
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay, understood. All right. Just looking into the momentum, if you could elaborate on the trend in the quarter, and if you could share your thoughts on the magnitude of the seasonality effect in Q4. Just specifically if you expect any support from higher activity across operators following the World Cup in Q4.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Activity from operators will of course increase, probably be the marketing budget and others. That's of course a positive. You can't deny that. But when we're growing at the pace we are with the 45% increase as you see in Q3, seasonality we go through that. The seasonality effect I think should be carefully looked at, not anything that should be added on top.

The pace is so high already. Activity in Q4 for operators, yes. Seasonality, be a bit careful with that.

Oscar Rönnkvist
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Okay, got it.

Just a final one on cost. Are you satisfied with the current OpEx growth? Or how should we view that looking forward, mainly thinking 2023 and onwards? Could it accelerate from these levels or what do you think?

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

I think that the whole world, including us privately as well as Evolution, need to prepare for a little bit tougher period than what we have had in the past couple of years due to the situation in the world.

You need to really focus to be better every day, increase cost awareness even on a higher degree than what you have done before. You need to be careful with money. If you do that in time and you're hungry and energetic with that, I think it would be all good. Still costs will increase over the coming year.

Oscar Rönnkvist
Analyst, ABG Sundal Collier

Understood. I think that was all for me. Thank you very much.

Jacob Kaplan
CFO, Evolution

Thank you very much.

Thanks, Oscar.

Operator 2

Thank you.

The next question comes from the line of Edward Young with Morgan Stanley.

Please go ahead. Edward Young, your line is in talk mode.

If you have muted yourself from your end, kindly unmute yourself, and please proceed with your question.

Your audio is breaking up.

Edward Young
Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay. Let me try one sec.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Now we hear you.

Now we hear you.

Edward Young
Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hi, everyone. Sorry about that. I guess in many ways the live growth itself. If you don't mind, I'll ask my first question on RNG. I just wondered if you could talk a little bit more about what the plan is there. You've been very clear, Martin. You're not satisfied with the growth. You've said you want to improve it. You said that would be lumpy. We all understand that.

I just wondered if you could give any additional color in terms of what you think the drivers of it are. Is it that OSS take-up has been slower than expected? Issues with particular studios, whether it's NetEnt or Red Tiger or whatever it might be.

I guess what's the plan to turn it around? Does it require a structural personnel changes or is it simply a matter of execution and you think you'll get there in the end? That'd be a very useful start.

Thanks.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

We need to accelerate the rollout, so we need to accelerate simply getting out, getting more games out. To put it simple, execution has to increase in speed. We have done a lot of background work with OSS and all the platforms and everything, and now we need to accelerate the rollout. That's the simple answer.

Edward Young
Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

On costs, Jacob, you mentioned personnel costs and sort of said what you said on that, but I wonder if you could just elaborate a little bit on energy. What is energy as a percentage of the cost base? Are you on fixed generally or are you working off spot prices? Just give us some idea about how much that might move in the other operating cost line.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Yeah. Healthcare and energy is of course one item that that's increasing along with many others. In and of itself, even though we of course consume a lot of electricity, we have large server products and so forth, of the total cost base, it's not a very significant number. It's, let's say, 1% to just use sort of a rough number. It's something like that. It's a low percentage number. You could say if it doubles, then it's 2%. It still matters, but it's not really an item that that's very impactful for us in and of itself. Of course, the cost increases across the board, not just energy. That's something that we've seen.

Edward Young
Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Finally, a question on capacity. First of all, thank you for the new disclosure on Game Rounds. Certainly have a look at that properly. Another area I just wanted to check on was on capacity growth. You talked about a lot of space within the box, if you like, within Madrid and Armenia, but I just wondered if you could remind us on where you are with your plan more broadly.

Now obviously you've now launched in Connecticut, so I'm not aware of any other US projects in the making. You've mentioned South America in the past, but you also said you might serve that from Europe. I wonder if you could just speak about your broad thoughts on studio and capacity additions. Thanks.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Well, the broad situation is that we're good right now, but we need to expand, as I said, in almost all the studios, and we'll see continuous expansion in the studios we have during 2023.

Coming into 2023, we are in the planning phase for a couple of new studios in different parts of the world, and I hope to come back to that somewhere in Q1, Q2, but we are in the planning phase for those now.

Eddie, do you have any more questions?

Edward Young
Research Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Thank you.

Operator 2

The next question comes from the line of Martin Arnell with DNB Markets. Please go ahead.

Martin Arnell
Analyst, DNB Markets

Hi, guys. I only have a few questions left there. You mentioned that you don't see any pattern signs of consumer slowdown. Could you mention if it's changed anything between sort of August, September, October, if you look at the trend? Or is it just normal seasonality upswing that you see now?

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

We can't make any conclusions of a consumer slowdown due to the world situation.

We can't see that right now. It's important, which is I mean, we don't know what's ahead of us. Anyone in the world right now needs to acknowledge the uncertainty in the world. As of now, we do not see neither in September nor August or earlier any clear signs of any slowdown.

Martin Arnell
Analyst, DNB Markets

Okay, thanks. When I look at your regional breakdown, Asia is growing really strong. Can you just comment a little bit on the RNG effect in that regional breakdown? Because you don't disclose the regional breakdown by live and RNG.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

We have a little bit of traction with RNG in the region as well, still on insignificant numbers.

Martin Arnell
Analyst, DNB Markets

Exactly. It's mainly tilted to Europe, as the goals have been, right?

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Currently, yes.

Martin Arnell
Analyst, DNB Markets

My final question on your labor cost inflation, what is the like to like inflation in the salaries, Jacob, if you could comment and help us understand the cost increase?

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

It's hard to single out exactly what is due to inflation and what sort of general increases. It's not. There's not really a hard number there. It is, of course, a bit of both. I think that metric also depends a little bit on where we add staff.

I mean, we're expanding a bit in North America relatively, maybe little that can factor in a little bit. I would say there is some upward pressure on wages. But it's not only that that's in the increase in this quarter. I expect to see some of that also during next year.

I mean, I think, like we said before, the salary reviews next year will probably be a little bit more than what they were the previous year. We'll see where it ends up. Some upward pressure on costs in general, not just wages.

Martin Arnell
Analyst, DNB Markets

Okay. Thanks a lot, guys.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Thank you very much.

Operator 2

Thank you. The next question comes from Kiranjot Grewal with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Kiranjot Grewal
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, morning, guys.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Morning.

Kiranjot Grewal
Analyst, Bank of America

I have a couple of questions. Okay. Firstly, on B2C, there's been a few operators that have said that they've launched exclusive live games. These, from what I can see, were done through partnering with some of your competitors.

If there's this ongoing demand for exclusive live games, would you consider sort of partnering up or working to create these for B2C operators?

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

We're not in favor of exclusive deals in general, but sometimes there can be investment that needs to be done, and then you need sort of a little bit longer time period than what you usually have. Then you could make some kind of deal during a certain time period. Now, to partner up and limit us in the market would not be interesting.

I mean, we are the largest online casino network in the world, and we look forward to serve with a one-stop shop anyone wanting to engage with high entertainment, the best products in the online casino market as a B2B supplier. We would not see a limitation in that as beneficial.

Kiranjot Grewal
Analyst, Bank of America

Okay, got it. Sorry to come back to RNG, but I suppose it's kind of underperformed not just this quarter but for a while now, and it seems to be because there hasn't been enough games launched. I mean, is there anything behind that? Do you need to recruit? Is it? Have you lost some talent? Do you need to recruit people? I'm just trying to work out what creates that step change towards double digit going forward now.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

I think that we're coming into the surge where we simply need to accelerate the rollout. I think that during the past period, we have focused a lot to get the structure right to where to put the games, both for Big Time Gaming and for Red Tiger as well as for NetEnt. A little bit more focus has been on to create that hub of where the slots should be, and now going forward, we need to accelerate the rollouts.

Kiranjot Grewal
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. Last one on Live Casino. When you please sort of look ahead, 2023 or the next twelve months, which regions are you most excited about now, in terms of growth potential? I can see some of the usuals are still doing very well. Asia is still doing well. What's the key focus for you?

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

It's a little bit like picking one of your children. Usually the answer is like, I'm actually very excited about all. They have all their different characteristics. There's great opportunity in North America. There's great opportunity in Asia. Latin America is sort of bubbling, coming up. Europe is showing good signs also this quarter. I think that all of the different regions are really exciting for the coming period.

Kiranjot Grewal
Analyst, Bank of America

Perfect. Thank you.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Thank you.

Operator 2

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Simon Davies with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Simon Davies
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yeah, morning.

A few from me. Asia, very strong performance there. Can you comment, were there any one-off factors at play there, and can you talk about any of the countries that were the key drivers behind that growth?

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

We don't. There were no one-offs or any. We little bit got to the question was skewed or if there was one thing. I don't see any one-offs in the quarter three. I don't see that.

Simon Davies
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Was the growth across a wide range of countries, or were there any specific areas of particular growth?

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

We don't split up the region as such, but we see good growth throughout the region.

Simon Davies
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Secondly, just on the World Cup, should that be a positive or a negative for you? Obviously, more online audience should increase, but a lot of that audience will be focused on sports betting.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

No, in general, sports event is always a positive. It creates new players and activity and marketing and a lot of other side effects. It's a positive for us, yes. Clearly so.

Simon Davies
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Lastly, tax rates nudging upwards. Can you give us any guidance for where you think that settles for 2023 and beyond?

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

I think the reason for the tax rate increasing now is that, with as we expand operations throughout the globe, then you know we pay taxes in all different countries. I would probably see it continuing upwards a little bit as it has the last year or so. The bigger question on tax is what will happen to the Pillar Two debate and then the 15% minimum tax that's been discussed.

That's the latest I think it's they're saying 2024 or 2025, but during this quarter maybe. I would just say from my vantage point, lost a little bit momentum.

It's not quite moving as quickly as we saw before, but it's still there. I think that's something that's to be considered in the future. They will be higher in the future. That's how I see it. Regardless of this Pillar Two or not, we will trend up a little bit from where we are today.

Simon Davies
Research Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Right. Thank you.

Operator 2

Thank you. Again, if you have a question, please press star then one.

This is a reminder to the participants, if you have a question, please press star then one.

As there are no more questions, this concludes our Q&A session.

I would like to turn the conference back to Mr. Martin Carlesund for closing comments. Over to you, sir.

Martin Carlesund
CEO, Evolution

Thank you very much everyone for listening to us this quarter. Another strong quarter for Evolution.

We'll speak again in about a quarter and have a very nice day. Thank you.

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