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Earnings Call: Q2 2024

Aug 23, 2024

Operator

Welcome to the Sensys Q2 2024 report presentation. For the first part of the presentation, participants will be in listen-only mode. During the questions-and-answers session, participants are able to ask questions by dialing pound key five on their telephone keypad. If you are listening to the presentation via webcast, you can ask written questions using the form below. Now, I will hand the conference over to speakers CEO, Ivo Mönnink, and CFO, Simon Mulder. Please go ahead.

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

Good morning, everybody, and welcome to Sensys Gatso's market presentation of the second quarter and first half of 2024. My name is Ivo Mönnink. I am the CEO of Sensys Gatso, and I will be presenting to you together with Simon Mulder, our CFO. In this market presentation, I will provide you with an update on our business for the second quarter and the first half year of 2024. We then follow up with a financial update by Simon, and finally, I will finish this presentation with a summary and our outlook. Let's now look at an update of our business. In this business update, I will take you through our order intake, which is up by 37% this quarter and 86% year-to-date. The large backlog in our home markets, Sweden and Netherlands, SEK 1.14 billion. Strong revenue growth of 26%.

An explanation on the legislative changes in Iowa. An update on our enhanced relationship with our Saudi customer. Our investments in working capital for the large contracts we signed in our home markets, Sweden and the Netherlands. And finally, our improving EBITDA, which is up by 28%. Order intake and procurement awards during the second quarter came in at SEK 418 million, compared to SEK 306 million in Q2 2023, an increase of 37%. Of the total order intake, SEK 276 million or 61% is from TRaaS Managed Services contract in the United States. Part of the order intake this quarter is the signing of our first contract in the town of Stratford, Connecticut, worth SEK 73 million. This state just recently opened up for photo enforcement.

Getting our first contract in this state is an important milestone for Sensys Gatso USA. For the first half year, the total order intake, including procurement awards, amounted to SEK 736 million, compared to SEK 396 million in the first half of 2023. No less than SEK 551 million or 75% came from TRaaS order intake from the U.S. market. With our strengthened U.S. sales team, we managed to sign twelve contracts in the first half of this year, of which five new customers and seven contract renewals and extensions. It's encouraging to see that our stepped-up sales efforts in the strategic U.S. market are clearly visible in the order intake. In 2022, we received two large contracts in our home markets, Sweden and the Netherlands. The combined value of the two contracts is SEK 1.25 billion.

The Swedish order of SEK 850 million is in its final development phase. The rollout of this project is now expected to start in the third quarter and will continue for the next five years. The Dutch order, worth SEK 400 million, has started its rollout and will continue into the first half of 2025, depending on the acceptance schedule from our customer. Of the combined SEK 1.25 billion contract value, 9% has been delivered to date. The remaining SEK 1.14 billion is still in our backlog. Total revenue for the quarter arrived at SEK 167 million, compared to SEK 133 million in Q2 2023. This is an increase of 26%.

Looking at revenue by nature, our System Sales for the quarter arrived at SEK 190 million, and compared to SEK 90 million in Q2 2023, this is an increase of 32%. Our TRaaS revenue for the quarter of SEK 88 million was slightly higher than in Q2 2023 at SEK 87 million. This recurring business equates this quarter to 53% of the total sales. The TRaaS revenue is primarily driven by our TRaaS Managed Services sales, which was up this quarter by 30% to SEK 59 million. Year- to- date, our TRaaS Managed Services revenue grew by 60% from SEK 102 million in 2023 to SEK 118 million in 2024. The revenue from newly signed contracts in the USA this year is not yet part of this.

We expect these new contracts to start contributing by the end of 2024. As of May 17th, 2024, the State of Iowa in the United States enacted legislation that provided guidelines for automated speed enforcement programs. The aim is to bring Iowa legislation in line with other states, mostly regarding permitted locations, maximum fine amounts, and speed thresholds. As communities navigated the changes, some programs were paused between May 17 and late June. We estimate that the pause of the programs will have limited effect on our revenue for 2024 in the United States. The changes include the catch-up period through the process of restarting the mailing of citations and the timing for payments thereafter.

We do not project that the Iowa legislation changes will have an effect on the delivery of services or revenue in future years, other than a pause on the start of the implementation of three new programs in Newton, Granger, and Grinnell. Our U.S. sales team will continue to work with partner communities to ensure the effectiveness of their driver safety programs while adhering to the new regulations. In April this year, we signed a memorandum of understanding with our customer, Tahakom, in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. With this MOU, Sensys Gatso will collaborate with Tahakom in multiple initiatives across Saudi Green Initiative, Local Content, and the Road to Saudi Vision 2030, reinforcing the strong partnership between the two entities that dates back to 2016.

Sensys Gatso and Tahakom will provide the kingdom with next generation traffic safety solutions that can handle a variety of smart mobility features in all environments and weather conditions. Next to the successful in-vehicle solution, Tahakom has now technically qualified Sensys Gatso as a supplier of fixed speed and fixed red-light solutions, creating the possibility for a more in-depth relationship in the future. The available cash at the end of the quarter came in at SEK 65 million , compared to SEK 84 million at the beginning of the year. Financing of big projects, such as the Swedish and the Dutch contracts, has temporarily increased our investments in working capital. On top, we have continued investing in fixed assets and operations in the USA, as well as in our software platforms, Flux, Puls, and Xilium.

With the rollout of the projects in Sweden and the Netherlands, we expect a gradual improvement of our available cash. Our gross margin this quarter was 42%, the same as in Q2 2023. This is mainly due to higher margins on System Sales from our Saudi customer. At the same time, and as we planned, we face lower margins on deliveries of System Sales in the initial phase, specifically from the new large contracts in the Netherlands and Sweden. We typically start the rollout of a new System Sales program with the delivery and installation of systems, followed by the acceptance by our customer. Only after this customer acceptance, the systems go into operation and the service and maintenance part of the contract commences. This is a gradual process over a period of typically 12-18 months.

The program will come to full fruition when all the new systems have been installed and are in operation. The overall gross margin of the contract will gradually recoup during this phase. Twelve months rolling, our margin is stable at around 40%. Our EBITDA for the quarter arrived at SEK 25 million, 28% higher than in Q2 2023 at SEK 19 million. Year- to- date, the EBITDA arrived at SEK 28 million, 37% higher than the first half of 2023 at SEK 21 million. On that note, I would like to hand over to Simon Mulder.

Simon Mulder
CFO, Sensys Gatso

Thank you, Ivo. We have three topics for today: our consolidated income statement, the performance of our segments, and finally, our financial position. Looking at the consolidated income statement, we focus on revenue margins and profitability. The revenue for the quarter came in at SEK 167 million, compared to SEK 133 million, an increase of 26%. For the first half year, the revenue amounted to SEK 292 million, compared to SEK 246 million, up by 19%. The increase in sales is driven by strong System Sales deliveries during the quarter and the first half year compared to 2023. The TRaaS revenues have shown an increase of 2% compared to Q2 2023. From a half year perspective, TRaaS revenues are in line with 2023.

TRaaS growth in the quarter has been impacted due to Iowa legislative changes that are expected to have a minimal impact on the full year projected revenue of TRaaS Managed Services in the U.S. 12 months rolling, the revenue is up by 5%. The group's gross margin arrived at 42% for the quarter. The first half year, the margin landed at 40%. The increase in margin is related to higher margin on the latest Saudi deliveries. 12 months rolling, the margin came in at 40%. The operating expenses totaled SEK 57 million, an increase of SEK 7 million compared to Q2 2023. The first half year, the expenses totaled SEK 112 million, compared to SEK 104 million. The increase in expenses is driven by sales expenses related to the Intertraffic fair in April of this year and increased sales activity in the USA.

12 months rolling, the expenses increased by 3%. Our operating profits for the period came in at SEK 40 million, compared to SEK 6 million in Q2 2023. For the first half year, the operating profit increased from negative SEK 3 million to positive SEK 7 million. 12 months rolling, the operating profit amounted SEK 49 million, a margin of 7%.... Our Managed Services segment predominantly reflects our U.S. business, including the costs related to development and maintenance of our software suites, Xilium and Puls. During the quarter, we've had a high number of contract signings, with SEK 276 million in total contract value over the contract periods. Revenue has grown by SEK 3 million to SEK 48 million in the quarter. The Managed Services segment has realized an EBITDA of SEK 7 million, also a growth of SEK 3 million.

On a 12-month rolling basis, revenue has grown from SEK 178 million to SEK 203 million, a growth of 14%. The EBITDA from a 12-month rolling perspective has increased by 79%, from SEK 19 million to SEK 34 million. During 2023, we have invested in our U.S. organization, in the operation as well as the sales teams. The EBITDA is in an upward trend since the second quarter of 2023. Now on to the segment System Sales, starting with order intake. Order intake during the quarter landed at SEK 142 million, mainly due to the win of the Dutch EG39 tender for average speed enforcement on Dutch highways, worth SEK 84 million. Of this total amount, an estimated SEK 48 million relates to TRaaS, service, and maintenance over a six-year contract period.

On top of that, we have received several repeat orders from existing customers and extensions on Dutch service and maintenance contracts during the rollout of the Dutch tenders. The rollout of the Dutch speed and red light project has increased velocity during the quarter, and now has several sites waiting for acceptance by the customer. After that, invoicing and payment is expected swiftly. Revenue has increased by 35%, growing from SEK 88 million to SEK 190 million in the quarter. Due to the initial deliveries on the Dutch project, we've seen a lower gross margin impacting our EBITDA. But with higher margins on our latest Saudi deliveries, the EBITDA came in at SEK 18 million or 15%.

Twelve months rolling, our revenue has increased from SEK 324 million to SEK 468 million, a growth of 44%, with our EBITDA increasing with SEK 80 million, also a 44% growth. Discussing the financial position of our company, I would like to focus on cash movements, interest-bearing debt, and available cash. The largest movements in our available cash position are working capital and investments. During the first half year, we financed big projects. On balance, working capital has increased during the year with SEK 24 million. The USA has continued rolling out on signed contracts of 2023, resulting in investments in fixed assets and operations of SEK 19 million. Investments in our platforms, Flux, Puls, and Xilium, have resulted in an addition to the amount of SEK 16 million. In 2023, we started investing in our Ghana joint venture.

The investment in the first half year of 2024 amounted to SEK four million. The adjusted net interest-bearing debt has increased compared to the closing balance of 2023, mainly due to the investments in working capital and fixed assets. The adjusted net interest-bearing debt at the end of the period amounted to SEK 124 million. The available cash has decreased from SEK 84 million to SEK 65 million by adding operational cash flow of SEK 35 million and taking the largest movements in our cash into account. With the rollout of the projects in Sweden and the Netherlands, we expect a gradual improvement of our available cash. And on that note, I would like to hand it over to Ivo.

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

Thank you, Simon. Our order book is strong, with a revenue backlog of SEK 1.14 billion from two large contracts in our home markets, Sweden and the Netherlands. Our profitable TRaaS business continues to grow, and our strengthened team in the USA proves able to sustainably grow our top line in this strategic market. On top, we're pleased to see our new groundbreaking roadside platform, Flux, now launched in our home markets, Sweden and the Netherlands. We therefore retain our long-term plan and ambition to, by the end of 2025, grow our net sales to more than SEK 1 billion, of which TRaaS revenue is more than SEK 600 million. We also retain our ambition to increase our EBITDA margin to more than 15% by the end of 2025. On that note, I would like to open up for questions.

Operator

If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key five on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key six on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Tim Ehlers from Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Tim Ehlers
Equity Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Thanks, operator. Hey, good morning, Simon and Ivo. I've got a couple of questions. Let me start with one, regarding the Saudi development. So, I think quite positive news on that side. One question I had regarding the payment you received, which boosted your or impacted your margin in, second quarter or in H1. Is there more to come for the second half, or is that the final payment for the, Saudi project that you finalized already?

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

It's not the final payment, so there's more to be received. That's the answer to the question. As part of the T&Cs, the terms and conditions for the contract, that we will receive final payments after a certain period of completion of the project, and that's what you find here now, but there is more to come.

Tim Ehlers
Equity Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, great.

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

I can't be more precise than that. What I think on that contract, specifically really interesting, is that Saudi is opening up, as we all know-

Tim Ehlers
Equity Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Yeah

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

... and public safety is really important for them. And so these tender process are taking place for a number of solutions in automated traffic enforcement. And apparently we found out that we are the only party in the whole market that is capable of delivering on all the tenders. So the only supplier of automated traffic solution. We're really proud of that. I just wanted to mention that.

Tim Ehlers
Equity Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, sounds great. Well, then one follow-up question with regards to Saudi Arabia. Is it fair to assume that the potential follow-up projects that will come after you've signed the memorandum of understanding and now you're qualified to deliver the fixed speed and red light control systems will be significantly bigger than the previous project, as it was only in vehicle speed control?

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

Well, the total demand for these projects is significantly higher, but there is, of course, in this case, also competition. So it will be depending what will be the share that is coming our way. We do expect it to be for more than one solution next to the in-vehicle we already have coming our way. The numbers are not known yet, so we can't say anything. Simply, we don't know. So once this is the case, and we're qualified, then of course, we will announce it to the market. In general, numbers in Saudi are always really high. It's a large country, and there's a huge investment behind upgrading the road systems and the traffic enforcement around that.

Tim Ehlers
Equity Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, great. Then another question, regarding your working capital. So you mentioned that you had to do some working capital investments, because of the rollout of the Dutch project. And since you mentioned that the Swedish project will start its rollout in the second half of this year, is it fair to assume that we would see another significant working capital increase due to that?

Simon Mulder
CFO, Sensys Gatso

Yeah, the Swedish tender is structured a little bit different from a payment perspective, so I believe that we are better aligned with outgoing funds and incoming funds on that particular project, but of course, starting up any project takes up working capital, that's correct, but I don't expect a similar kind of impact.

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

Yeah, maybe to add to that, on the Dutch contract, it is in our interest to keep an inventory level, because the faster you complete a project, you can choose a new, what they call a MOC, which is a site assigned to one of the competitors in the tender. So the faster you can operate and react to that, the higher the volume you're getting. So that's also a reason, a strategic reason, to keep a higher inventory level for the Dutch tender.

Tim Ehlers
Equity Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, understood. And then, one last question before I move back in the queue. Also with regards to investments, but now more on a CapEx level. You mentioned that you did some further investments in your software, and I think also in some hardware stuff. The levels we are seeing now, are those levels that will be stable going forward, or is that still part of a bigger investment plan that will not go on like this for the foreseeable future?

Simon Mulder
CFO, Sensys Gatso

Yeah, so I think if we look at the intangible fixed assets in our software suites, yeah, for now we foresee this level continuing. In the second quarter, the investments in fixed assets and operations have been somewhat lower. We expect that to come back in the second half of the year.

Tim Ehlers
Equity Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, clear. Then, I move back in the queue in case there are other questions.

Simon Mulder
CFO, Sensys Gatso

Thank you, Tim.

Operator

The next question comes from Örjan Rödén, from Carnegie Investment Bank. Please go ahead.

Örjan Rödén
Analyst, Carnegie Investment Bank

Yes, good morning, everyone. And to start with, congrats to what I thought it was a very solid report. If I start with the strong order intake, I mean, particularly in the U.S., do you claim that this is an exceptional quarter, or do you see that the U.S. market is rather accelerating a structural trend, or is it more down to your own activities by expanding the sales force?

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

Yeah, I guess it's both. But I would start with saying that with an expanded sales team, which requires investments, of course, you can see that, you know, with feet on the ground and talking to the cities, you have a way higher chance of bringing in new contracts. At the same time, we see markets in Connecticut, Florida, California, opening up for automated speed enforcement around schools, which is also an indication that the market is moving. We also see yeah, maybe some a situation in Iowa which has been under discussion for more than 10 years about, you know, how to deal with automated traffic enforcement, and that's now finally settled down. So I think that's also very positive turn in the end for automated traffic enforcement in general.

So there is. It's a combination of markets in motion moving at this point in time, and a sales force, which is rather active on going after the opportunities.

Örjan Rödén
Analyst, Carnegie Investment Bank

Okay. Okay, great. Looking at your two segments, Managed Services and System, it's still the System Sales that it's posting the strongest growth. And without giving a forecast, how do you see the lead times in Managed Services evolving, both in terms of sales growth and EBITDA margin, given that the order intake is quite strong currently?

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

I would say that typically, it would take, well, six to 12 months for an order to start from signing the order into going into operation, which basically is due to the fact that you need permits to install the equipment. Then there's the installation time, and there's the warning time, where we want to make sure that offenders are being pre-warned that this is happening. And then you start issuing the citations, and then there is the collection of the funds. So that's also in that time schedule. These components are basically all adding up to that sort of time framework I just mentioned.

Örjan Rödén
Analyst, Carnegie Investment Bank

Okay, thank you and just drilling down a little bit on the working capital. Do I interpret correctly that you expect some reversal already this year, or do you expect it to take longer?

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

No, as we mentioned, right, we expect the available cash to restore gradually while we roll out the Swedish and the Dutch tender further. And like Ivo said, you know, we have a strategic inventory position to maximize our sales in that tender. So yeah, the expectation is that we will go back to more normal levels.

Örjan Rödén
Analyst, Carnegie Investment Bank

Can you say anything about what you think about the timing on that, or is it too early?

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

What I can say about it is, there is pressure from the government to install as fast as possible. So they have an interest to help us with that, and we have an interest in growing our revenue, so we're on the same page here. I would say, yeah, within mid-2025 , we will probably see most of it being delivered to the market. That would be my expert-

Örjan Rödén
Analyst, Carnegie Investment Bank

Okay. Thank you very much. That was all for my part.

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

Thank you, Örjan.

Örjan Rödén
Analyst, Carnegie Investment Bank

Thank you, Örjan.

Operator

The next question comes from Tim Ehlers from Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Tim Ehlers
Equity Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Thanks a lot. Just one follow-up question, also regarding margins going into the second half of the year. With the rollout of the Swedish project, I guess we'll see a higher increase in System Sales compared to the TRaaS revenues. Could you maybe guide a little bit on the margin development there? Are you rather expecting a flattish development like we've seen in the first half, due to a higher sales mix coming from System Sales, or will it rather be a slightly increased?

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

Yeah. What we can say about that, Tim, is that, yeah, I mean, we see if System Sales is higher, much might be a bit lower. If the share of Managed Services is high, it might be a little bit higher. I prefer to look at the twelve months rolling gross margin, where we see that we're around the 12, 40 percent, so plus or minus. That's, I think, the best answer I can give to that because of the mix, impact.

Tim Ehlers
Equity Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

Okay, thanks.

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

Yeah, yeah.

Tim Ehlers
Equity Research Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux

That was it from me.

Operator

There are no more questions at this time, so I hand the conference back to the speakers for any written questions and closing comments.

Ivo Mönnink
CEO, Sensys Gatso

Okay. Thank you, everybody, for attending. Thank you, Örjan and Tim, for asking the questions, and hopefully we will see you back in the next quarterly report presentation.

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