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Earnings Call: H1 2019

Nov 9, 2018

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Fiscal Year 2019 Interim Results Presentation Conference Call and Live Webcast for Compagnie Financier Richemont. I'm Dino, your call operator. I would like to remind you that all participants will be in listen only mode and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by Q and A session. The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast.

At this time, it's my pleasure to hand over to Burkhard Grund, Chief Finance Officer and Sophie Canard, Group Corporate Communications Director. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Dino. Good morning. Good morning, everyone. Burkhard Doumund, our Chief Finance Officer, as you you said, you know James Fraser, IR Executive and I would like to thank you for joining the audio webcast today to review Richemont's results for the 6 months ended 30 September 2018. We would like to remind you that the company announcement and financial presentation can be downloaded from richemont.com and that this replay of this audio webcast will be available on our website today at 3 p.

M. Geneva time. Before we begin, may I draw your attention to the disclaimer on our presentation and company announcement regarding forward looking statements as defined in the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. First, Burkhard will take you through the highlights before reviewing group sales. I will then present some key developments at the Maisons and at our online distributors.

Thereafter, Burkhard will walk you through the financials and conclude. This presentation will be followed by a Q and A session. I will now hand you over to Burkhardt.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Sophie. Good morning to everyone listening. Thank you for your time. Before looking at the numbers, let me remind you that the results of newly acquired YOOX NET A PORTER and Watchfinder have been included in the group's financial statements with effect from the 1st May 1st June 2018, respectively. They are grouped under online distributors, which is a newly formed business area.

As you will have seen, the first time consolidation of online distributors has had a material impact on sales, operating profit, cash flow and net cash. Regarding distribution channels, we have

Speaker 4

a newly reported distribution

Speaker 3

channel, online retail, which regroups the sales of YNAP as well as the online portion of online sales portion of both Watchfinder and the group's Maisons. Retail now incorporates only sales from the group's directly operated boutiques. With this now clarified, let us look at the numbers. Sales for the first half of the current fiscal year increased by 21% at constant exchange rates and by 21% at actual exchange rates. This includes the sales of YOOX NET A PORTER and Watchfinder.

You will have noticed that the level of online retail sales has jumped from 1% to 14% of group sales. Excluding the online distributors, sales for the period increased by 8% at constant exchange rates and by 6% at actual exchange rates. Most regions and all businesses business areas saw growth, led by double digit increases in jewelry and in the group's directly operated boutiques. Here, watch sales expanded by double digit rate as well. Operating profit decreased by 3% to €1,130,000,000 The €36,000,000 decline versus the first half of last year is more than explained by charges of €159,000,000 comprised of, on the one hand, amortization of intangible assets, principally related to the acquisition of YNAP and Watchfinder and on the other hand, onetime acquisition and disposal related charges, mainly linked to the Lancel disposal.

Profit for the period increased to €2,253,000,000 primarily as a result of a post tax noncash gain of €1,378,000,000 which I will explain in more detail later. Whilst the gross cash position was higher at €6,300,000,000 the net cash position was lower at €1,600,000,000 predominantly because of the consideration paid for the settlement of the YOOX NET A PORTER and Watchfinder Acquisitions. Let me now walk you through the group sales performance, 1st by region, then by distribution channel and finally by product lines, with changes versus last year as always expressed in constant currencies. Let us start with Europe, our 2nd largest region with 30% of group sales. First half sales increased by 28% overall, benefiting from the integration of YNAB and Watchfinder, for whom Europe represents the largest region.

Excluding these newly acquired businesses, sales posted a 1% increase, having been impacted by the sale of Lancel in June 2018. Performances in the region were varied with sales in France, our largest market in the region, and Switzerland both showing good growth. United Kingdom contracted after a strong comparative in the prior year period. Retail sales increased by high single digit on strength from the Julien Maisons and Specialist Watchmakers, which more than offset lower wholesale sales. The decline in wholesale sales reflected our continued focus to align inventories with end client demand.

With respect to product lines, jewelry continued to outperform with double digit sales growth, and watch sales were stable compared with the prior year period. Let us now move to Asia Pacific, where sales increased by 20% overall and accounted for 37% of the group's total. If we exclude Online Distributors, sales growth was 14%. Within the region, Mainland China posted high single digit growth and the other main markets increased double digit. Both retail and wholesale channels enjoyed double digit growth with particular strength in jewelry and watches.

Let us now look at the Americas region, where sales increased by 42% overall and by 13% excluding online distributors. The significant difference in growth rates, 42% including and 13% excluding online distributors, reflected the fact that the Americas represented the 2nd largest region for YNAP. Both retail and wholesale channels grew with retail strongly outperforming wholesale. Growth was broad based across product lines and business areas. More specifically, this was driven by double digit increases in jewelry, clothing, writing instruments as well as in the jewelry Maisons, Montblanc and the fashion and accessories Maisons.

The region contributed 18% to group sales with the U. S. A. Remaining our largest market ahead of Mainland China and Hong Kong. Let us now turn to Japan, which represented 8% of group sales and increased by 14% overall and by 8% excluding online distributors.

Sales for the period benefited from higher domestic and tourist spending, driven by a comparatively weaker yen. The high single digit growth in retail was notably supported by the net opening of 5 directly operated boutiques. Watch sales registered double digit increases with jewelry growth at high single digit. And finally, Middle East and Africa. The region, which represented 7% of group sales, saw a 4% increase in sales overall.

Excluding online distributors, sales declined by 4%, which can be partly explained by lower tourist spending given the comparative strength of local currencies. Sales have also been negatively impacted by continued regional and geopolitical uncertainties. By product line, it is worth mentioning Let us now turn to sales by distribution channel. 1st, the retail channel. The sales in our directly operated boutiques were strong, up by 13% compared with the prior year period.

There was growth in all regions, led by double digit performance in Asia Pacific, the Americas and Middle East and Africa. Retail sales benefited from store openings in the period and from the internalization of external points of sale in the Middle East at the end of calendar year 2017. Against these openings, the number of directly operated boutiques was reduced by 33 to 10.90 as a consequence of the disposal of L'Anseil. The contribution to group sales of our directly operated boutiques was 52% overall. The contribution is lower than a year ago due to the creation of the online retail distribution channel.

Excluding this new channel, retail contribution, in fact, was 4 percentage points above the prior year period at 61%. 2nd, online retail. This newly reported distribution channel represents the sales from YNAP and the online sales portion of both Watchfinder and the group's Maisons. As mentioned earlier, YNAP has been consolidated since May and Watchfinder since June. This distribution channel accounted for 14% of group sales.

3rd, wholesale. This channel includes sales to franchise partners and to multi brand retail partners. Wholesale sales were 1% above the prior year period as a double digit increase in Asia Pacific and growth in the Americas and Japan were offset by declines in the other regions. Watch inventory management initiatives and further improvements in the watch wholesale network as well as the internalization of points of sale in the Middle East weighed on performance. Jewelry, leather goods, writing instruments and clothing all had solid growth.

After the creation of the new online retail channel, wholesale sales stood at onethree of group sales. And finally, let us move to the sales breakdown by product line. You probably noticed that with the inclusion of YNAP, clothing became the group's 3rd largest product line with a 50% contribution to sales. Note that for the time being, all YNAP sales have been allocated to clothing. Jewelry and watches remained the group's largest product lines, but each contributed to less than 40% of group sales compared to 39% 43%, respectively, a year ago.

Jewelry sales rose by 15% with growth at Cartier, Van Cleef and Arpels and Piaget and in all regions. Watch sales saw a high single digit increase overall with good end client demand leading to strong retail sales. The exceptional growth in clothing reflected the first time consolidation of YNAP. Excluding YNAP, clothing sales increased double digits nonetheless. Excluding the sale of Lancel, leather goods rose at constant rates compared with the prior year period.

Over to you, Sophie.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Burkhard. Let me start with the Jewellery Maisons, which includes the Cartier and Van Cleve and Arpels Maisons. They reported a 9% increase in sales against strong comparatives with the prior year period. Growth was broad based across regions, with particular strength in Asia Pacific and the Americas. Retail sales increased double digit, while wholesale sales were slightly down over the prior year period.

The Jewellery Maisons operating result improved 19% to €1,170,000,000 Higher sales combined with manufacturing efficiency more than offset additional communication initiatives and led to a 33.8% operating margin. This is 280 basis points higher than in the first half of last year. Let's look at the main developments over the past 6 months. The double digit growth in jewelry was particularly driven by the continued success of the Love and Jussain Clue collections at Cartier and by the Perlee and Alonbra collections at Dan Cleve and Artels. Watches enjoyed solid contributions from Balon Bleu, Panterre and the successfully relaunched Santos watch collection at Cartier as well as from the poetic complications at Danfelven Arpels.

Retail strength across regions includes the benefit of 8 net new store openings, notably in China, Hong Kong and the USA. The wholesale performance continued to reflect our commitment to improve our 3rd party retail network with the ensuing closure of some points of sale. Cartier had strong growth in online sales granted from a small base, spread across most markets. Cartier also began offering a number of watch collections on NET A PORTER and MR PORTER. Let us now review our Specialist Watchmakers business area, which consolidates the results of 8 watchmaisons.

Sales increased by 2% with strong growth in Asia Pacific, good performance in Japan and stable sales in the Americas. Retail sales representing end client demand increased double digits, more than offsetting lower wholesale sales. Operating margin decreased by 80 basis points to 18.5%, impacted by stock provisions linked to the physical return of inventory buybacks, which, as you will remember, we reported in May as they had been provisioned in the full year 2018 results. Excluding this impact, operating margin increased by 130 basis points compared to the prior year period. Performance was positive overall, though it was varied across Maisons, regions and channels.

Fashion Constantain, Roger Dubuis, Jaeger LeCoultre, Lancashire LeCoultre, Lancashire, and Piaget all outperformed with good client response to new references within existing collections. Let me give you two examples. The overseas chronograph at Vacheron Constantin and the XL Neufe Spider Pirelli Edition at Roger Dupuy. The IWC 150th anniversary collection was equally well received. Retail sales grew across all regions.

In wholesale, a high single digit increase in Asia Pacific mitigated declines in other regions as we continue to control the sell in to multi brand retail partners and optimize our wholesale network. Sales of watches online have been progressing well from a small base with collections from 6 of our 8 specialist watchmakers now available on MR PORTER and NET A PORTER websites. Now let us talk about online distributors, our new business area, which regroups YOOX NET A PORTER and Watchfinder. Sales made by wine app of Richemont's Maisons products are shown under both the Maisons' respective business areas and under online distributors. They are subsequently eliminated under intersegment eliminations.

Online distributors generated sales of €893,000,000 and an operating loss of €115,000,000 as results were affected by the amortization of intangible assets recognized on acquisition. Online distributors accounted for most of the €82,000,000 amortization charge disclosed in the notes to the accounts. Let us now look at some developments during the 4 to 5 months period under review for this new business area. Over the past 5 months, YOOX NET A PORTER group has been quite active. It launched an online flagship store for Balmain and one for Aden in Alaya.

It continued the rollout of omnichannel capabilities for the online flagship stores. LATAM BORTER introduced a vanguard program to promote the up and coming fashion designers, thereby underlining Net A Porter's expertise in discovering and supporting the brightest new fashion talents. It also introduced a new kidswear offer. Following the launch of a fine jewelry and watch suite on NET A PORTER in April, Mr. Porter launched the Luxury Watch Guide in June with the objective to become the ultimate destination for luxury watches.

We notably include the following watch and jewelry brands: Cartier, TAGOUYER, Vacheron Constantin and Zenith for watches, Boucheron, the Frisonneau and Piaget for jewelry. Voutnet continued its international expansion through the activation of local warehouses in Dubai and Tokyo in language customer care, localized websites, apps and offering priced in local currencies. It is still early days to comment much on Watchfinder since it has been consolidated for 4 months only. Watchfinder has looked to enhance its visibility and reach a wider audience through television ads, sponsorship and digital outreach. Watchfinder is already the most followed Luxury Watch channel on YouTube.

Finally, let us move to the other businesses, which include Montblanc, the group fashion and accessory businesses, its unbranded watch component manufacturing and real estate activities. The 1% growth includes the impact of the disposals of Shanghai Tang in July 2017 and Lancel in June of this year. Excluding these disposals, sales increased by mid single digits, led by Europe and the Americas. The operating loss was €46,000,000 including one time charges of €58,000,000 related to the Loncel disposal. Excluding these onetime items, the operating results was positive.

Let us look at the developments of some of the Maisons. Most Maisons and regions posted growth during the period. Montblanc and Peter Millard enjoyed healthy increases in sales, with growth at Montblanc driven by large leather goods and writing instruments, with the successful Mastercheut Petit Prince and Fox collection. Higher Chloe sales were notably supported by store openings and by the success of shoes, eyewear and fragrances underlying the Maisons' continued desirability. Adelaide and Alaya posted good growth in sales, also benefiting in part from store openings.

Excluding the impact of the disposals of Shanghai Tong and Lansel and rating rating the sales from the online flagship stores, retail sales showed growth. Wholesale sales increased across most Maisons, driven primarily by Chloe and Peter Millard. Growing digital sales across the Maisons, reflecting the ongoing digital transformation. Burkhard, over to you.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Sophie. Let me walk you through the rest of the P and L, starting with gross profit. Gross profit increased by 16% overall, resulting in a gross margin of 62.5%, a 300 basis point decrease from last year. Excluding the integration of YNAP and Watchfinder in the current period's results, gross margin was 66.6%, an increase of 110 basis points compared with last year. Improved manufacturing efficiency, larger share of online and offline retail and relatively favorable currencies overall were the primary drivers to the improved gross margin.

Let us now look at our operating expenses. The overall expense increase of 24% includes the online distributors in the current period. It also reflects one time items of €77,000,000 primarily related to the Loncel disposal and €82,000,000 of amortization of intangible assets on acquisition. Altogether, these charges amounted to €159,000,000 Excluding these €159,000,000 charges and excluding online distributors as well, the increase in operating expenses was limited to 4 percent at actual exchange rates. I will now walk you through the expenses by category.

Selling and distribution expenses, which accounted for 52% of total operating expenses, rose by 10% at actual exchange rates and by 12% at constant exchange rates. Excluding online distributors, selling and distribution expenses rose by 4% at actual exchange rates. This increase is primarily due to strong retail sales and the associated higher variable rental costs, notably in Asia, where we enjoyed strong sales growth. Communication expenses rose by 17% at actual, over 20% at constant exchange rates, mainly due to the first time integration of the online distributors and communication initiatives at the Jewellery Maisons. Administration expenses grew by 34% or 37% at constant exchange rates.

This growth mainly reflected the inclusion of the online distributors, investments in IT and digital initiatives. Fulfillment expenses of €91,000,000 related to the online distributors. Other expenses amounted to €163,000,000 and included the €159,000,000 charges previously mentioned. Net operating expenses as a percentage of group sales increased slightly from 45% a year ago to 46%. This leads us to operating profit.

Higher expenses linked to the first time consolidation of YNAP and Watchfinder and the €159,000,000 of acquisition and disposal related charges just mentioned, all contributed to the €36,000,000 reduction in operating profit. The overall operating margin now stands at 16.6 percent, a reduction of 410 basis points compared to the previous year. Excluding Online Distributors, operating profit increased by 7% and operating margin by 40 basis points to 21.1%. Let us now review the P and L items below operating profit, starting with finance costs. Net finance costs for the period amounted to €47,000,000 compared to a €72,000,000 net finance income in the prior year period.

The €119,000,000 reversal related mostly to 2 factors. First, a €38,000,000 loss was recorded on monetary items compared to an €84,000,000 gain in the prior year period, mainly due to unfavorable movements in period end exchange rates on our cash position. As a reminder, cash investments are translated at balance sheet closing rates. 2nd, interest costs in the period included €35,000,000 relating to the €4,000,000,000 corporate bond issued in March 2018 with an average maturity of 13 years and a weighted average coupon of 1.469 percent to be very precise. Let us now turn to the profit for the period, which increased to €2,253,000,000 reflecting the €1,378,000,000 post tax noncash accounting gain on the revaluation of existing YNAB shares.

Excluding this gain, profit for the period was 10% lower at 875,000,000 euros This reduction is primarily due to the lower operating profit and the negative reversal of the net finance results just discussed. Our effective tax rate amounted to 22%. I would now like to focus on cash flow from operations, which amounted to €733,000,000 The €375,000,000 reduction reflected the higher absorption of cash for working capital as a consequence of high inventories and a reduction in creditors. Inventory increases, both at the Maisons and YNAP, resulted in an outflow of €195,000,000 compared with a net cash inflow of €110,000,000 in the prior year period. The reduction in creditors is primarily linked to the physical returns of inventory from the buyback program reported for the year ended March 2018.

As a result, working capital needs amounted to €837,000,000 €477,000,000 higher than the prior year period. Let us now turn to our gross capital expenditure, which amounted to €279,000,000 representing 4% of group sales compared with Looking at CapEx by nature, 39% of Looking at CapEx by nature, 39% of the gross expenditure was related to points of sale investments, including internal and franchise boutiques and corners. Investments were focused primarily on store renovation and relocation. The most notable projects were the Vankeffen Arpad store in Xinkong Place in Tian, the ongoing renovation of the Cartier store on Newborn Street in London and the relocation of Cartier on Peking Road in Hong Kong and on Post Street in San Francisco as well as the IWC and Panerai relocated stores on Ginza and Tokyo. Montblanc continued the rollout of its new retail concept, which has now been extended to 78 stores.

7% of the gross expenditure was related to manufacturing investments. This primarily related to research and development facilities in Neuchatel. Other investments accounted for the remaining 54%. They included the ongoing renovation of Richemont's central logistics center at Villascioglan in Switzerland as well as investments in IT at YNAP and the rest of the group. Let us now turn to free cash flow.

Free cash inflow amounted to €308,000,000 This €134,000,000 increase compared with the prior year period reflected lower cash generated from operations, which was more than offset by lower net investments. Although CapEx was higher this year, remember that last year saw an investment in Dufry. And now on to our balance sheet, which remains very strong with shareholders' equity accounting for 56% of the total compared with 76 percent in the prior year. Net cash decreased to €1,580,000,000 at the end of September 2018 from €5,300,000,000 at the end of our last fiscal year in March 2018. The 3.6 €9,000,000,000 reduction mainly reflected the annual dividend payment as well as the acquisitions of Wynnab and Watchfinder, which overall resulted in a combined cash outflow of €3,750,000,000 This is now time to wrap up the presentation with some concluding comments.

Growth in the 6 month under review was driven by the Jewellery Maisons and strength of our online and offline stores, including for watches. We have continued to upgrade the quality of our store network and have increased resources allocated to research and innovation. Enhancing the quality and creativity of our products have been key priorities for Richemont. We have kept costs under control, limiting their increase to 4% when excluding online distributors and onetime items, abiding by our golden rule that operating expenses should increase less than sales. The first half of fiscal year twenty nineteen was also marked by progress on our transformation journey.

Enhanced digital initiatives at our Maisons, the acquisitions of YNAP and Watchfinder and the recently announced partnership with Alibaba are all important steps on this journey. YNAP and Watchfinder, the only digital native businesses in our group, will accelerate our focus on digital marketing and omnichannel, allowing our clients to engage and buy when, where and how they wish. As our Chairman, Mr. Rupert, commented, the strategic partnership recently formed with Alibaba will seek to enable Richemont to become a significant and sustainable online player with the important Chinese clientele, both domestically in China and while traveling abroad. As the group navigates to an uncertain economic and geopolitical environment, we will continue to be vigilant while supporting our Maisons and businesses in their marketing, communication and distribution initiatives.

The €4,000,000,000 bond placement secured in March with an average maturity of 13 years gives solidity to adapt and to invest into our Maisons and businesses to ensure we remain attractive and relevant for our clients, while providing long term value to our shareholders. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Burkhard. So before we take your questions, please try to limit yourself to 2 because we have quite a lot of you who sure would like to ask questions to Burkhard. And if you also remember to announce yourself and the company you work for.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question is from Edouard Aubin, Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yes. Good morning, guys. So two questions for me. The first one is on exit rate and current trading. So I guess growth came to a halt in September.

I think, Birkett, you were quoted as saying that October rebounded a bit and was in line. So should we understand that October was around 8% growth rate at constant FX? That's number 1. And number 2, on YNAP. If I look at your release, it looks like reported sales for the 6 months to September were down 1%.

So I guess that constant effects were maybe slightly up. So how do you explain the very sharp deceleration in the growth rate because I think it's basically the worst of life performance they've posted in here. So if you could provide some color on why should we be optimistic about the top line going forward?

Speaker 3

Okay. Well, that's good. At 10.05, I'm already quoted. That's quite an achievement. But let's you know how we do this.

We don't really comment on short term trading, but I'll just give you a few sound bites so that you have some color here. September, and I think everybody has done the math, was a slowdown compared to the trading statement that we put out with the 5 month August numbers. Some color here. I would say, the most of the regions, with the exception of Asia, were more or less in line with the trend of the 5 months before. The biggest difference was in Asia Pacific, and that was more on for the relating to the traveling or the travel business, which I think was impacted or we think was First of all, you must understand that our business is about 50% driven by sales to tourists.

And when I say that, that means that it is impacted by the movement of exchange rates. We know that the renminbi has been weakening since this summer. And then you have a lead and lag effect that usually a few months later this impacts the flow of tourists to one destination or the other. You remember what we said in the full year results presentation, that's something that happened last year in Europe. When the euro strengthened in May June, A few weeks later, that demand migrated east and actually appeared in Hong Kong and Macau.

So the renminbi has been weakening. So that, I think, has an impact on tourists business. 2nd, in the month of September, we've had some weather conditions where actually we had to shut down, especially in Hong Kong for a few days, our trading. And I think that has also impacted regional tourism. 2nd point probably to add is that we've had some quite high comps, especially on the hydroly side in the previous year.

Now what does that mean for our current trading conditions, the month of October? If you look at the 6% growth at historic rates over the 1st 6 months, That is about the growth rate we've seen in the month of October as well. So I would say this is as much visibility as we have today. I tend to say visibility going forward ends with yesterday's sales, right? We know that volatility, not only in our industry, but in other industries and in the equity markets is a presence today.

So that's where we are today in terms of current trading. The YNAP question, now this is a bit tricky for me to answer because YNAP has been consolidated in our numbers for 5 months. And on top of that, you start in month of May and you look at trading over summer, it's a bit difficult to compare to previous year's periods. That being said, what we can say is on a GMV level, there's a double digit expansion and I tend to leave my comments at that. Does that answer your question or at least partially?

Speaker 5

Partially, yes. But again, I mean, most of as you know, most of the players are growing double digit strongly in the space. So it looks like the performance of Y and I is relatively significantly below the competition. So we're just trying to understand what's driving that underperformance basically.

Speaker 3

Yes. I understand your concerns.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Next question please.

Speaker 1

The next question is from Helen Brand of UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, Sophie. Hi, Batcotte.

Speaker 3

Good morning, Helen.

Speaker 7

Good morning. Just to follow-up quickly on the last question. Can you just confirm whether October you saw in being 6% growth at constant currency or reported rates? I don't think that's too dissimilar, but just to check. And just within that, can you talk a little bit more around the Chinese consumer overall?

So what are they currently doing at home and abroad through September, October? And how does that maybe compare to the 5 month period? And I think just secondly, again, on YNAP. It looks like even excluding one offs, the business was off making. Obviously, you've talked about some investments there.

But what should we really be expecting in terms of profitability for that business through H2 and midterm? Should we really be expecting that business back into profit and to that midterm plan? So if you could just talk a bit about profitability there, that would be great.

Speaker 3

Yes. Sorry, Helen, to disappoint you. I mean, we're not through the backdrop on a reintroduce guidance on short term trading or in a month. What I'm saying is October is broadly in line with the trends we've seen across the regions in the first half of the year. Now don't try to nail me on constant or historic rates.

I think the message is that, that is the current trading condition. And going forward, your guess is as good as mine as to how volatility, exchange rates and whatever might come onto the horizon from the political side will play out. Remember, luxury goods, we all know that is based on feel good factor, right? So on YNAB, we have well, on the online distributors, put it that way, we have EUR 150,000,000 loss for the 1st 5 months of YNAB and the 1st 4 months of Watchfinder. So the parameter here is a bit complicated to analyze, but let me try it nonetheless.

So out of this €115,000,000 operating loss, there's a €75,000,000 charge for those two businesses, which relate to the amortization of intangibles that we have acquired with these businesses. What are these intangibles? Basically, it's always the same when you do your purchasing price allocation. You look at the value of the brands that you acquire. You look at the technology stack, you look at the customer list, etcetera, etcetera.

So you sign with the experts Values to those and these intangibles then are amortized over more or less long period of time, somewhere between 3 years 20 years. So this is a charge of €75,000,000 for the this period of 4 months for Watchfinder 5 for YNAP. We wrote it somewhere in the press release. It's a 180,000,000 charge for a full 12 months. This is still provisional because we're this is our first take on the allocation of the purchasing price.

The so if you strip that out, there's about a €40,000,000 loss for that segment. Different elements behind it, slightly lower gross margin, but I'm treading very carefully here because as you remember last year around, we were not owners of that business. But what we see is there's a bit of a lower gross margin, which obviously comes out of the YNAP side. There is some expenses, which relate to higher service levels in logistics fulfillment and also linked to marketing costs for capturing customers and new customers. And also for recapturing customers after we have fixed or YNAB has fixed the migration issues they had with the OUTNET.

As you remember, they were talking about that, I think, last year in October for the first time. So there's a couple of expenses there. Now that are a bit that have weighed on the bottom line. Now going forward, you know that we don't give guidance going forward, and this is now a private company. It's no longer a public company.

But once again, we've seen double digit growth in the first half, and I think that's a good indicator of how we see the business evolving in the future.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thanks very much. And just to follow-up on the Chinese consumer, can you just talk a little bit about domestic consumption versus overseas consumption over the last couple of months? Anything that you can talk about would be very helpful.

Speaker 3

Yes, I mean, let me put it this way. The Chinese customers, as we all know, is one of the most important, if not the dominant customer base for the industry, and that applies as well for us. If you look at the market overall, it's about estimated, it's about €80,000,000,000 a €1,000,000,000 market, so a good third of the overall luxury goods market. And there's about onefour of that SEK 80,000,000,000 in Mainland China, so domestically, and about 3 quarters of that, so good SEK 60,000,000,000 realized with the traveling Chinese, just to give the dimension of the market. Now for us, we've had quite a good run, I would say, over the last 2 years, coming out of the reduction of sales in Mail and China when the online gifting when the gifting boom and watches mainly ended.

So when climbing out of that hole, we have had for a good 12 to 15 month an expansion to double digit rates. That's also what we said last year. And I would say that growth has now normalized to high single digit growth that we've experienced in Mainland China and that we've also put in our numbers that we put out today. So we're quite happy with that Chinese, let's say, domestic demand because it's quite stable and it's expanding. And it's expanding across our different businesses or, let's say, across our different product segments.

Now then we look at the traveling bit. It has been expanding quite significantly as well, double digit growth over the reported period with the month of September where tourism has been impacted. And like I said, probably the weather, I won't blame it on the weather, its exchange rates as well. I think that's more the driving factor behind it. And for the 6 months, we are very happy with the performance.

We'll see where it goes in the future. I think the demand is there. The exchange rate drives demand to one place or the other.

Speaker 7

Perfect. Thanks very much.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Evelyn.

Speaker 2

Next question, please.

Speaker 1

The next question is from Melanie Floche of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Yes, good morning. If I can Marcel, I'll ask 2 questions, sorry. The first one is on the good surprise, which was during Maison operational leverage. This division offered a pretty good operational leverage this semester. Last semester was actually a bit more disappointing on similar growth with no operational leverage.

What has changed between the two? The top line is actually pretty similar, but the result the end result on operational leverage was very different. So I wondered whether you could share with us what has changed. I remember that at the time last time, Zurvanion was saying that he was reinvesting quite heavily in the quality of the products and A and P. So I wondered what has changed this time around?

The second question is on your OpEx, which is up 8%, excluding all miners. Does this still include the one off charges of Lancel? And could we have a clean growth, please?

Speaker 3

Good morning, Melanie. Listen, you're speaking about disappointment about the Jewellery Maisons. I think my answer half a year ago was I was not disappointed with the Jewellery Maisons and that I did not exclude operating leverage or increasing operating leverage coming out of that segment or that business area. So I think both comments still hold true. We clearly have seen a strong business at the Jewellery Maisons overall sales growth of 9%, right?

We've had, I'd say, good margin effects in the sense that with the increased volume behind it and the manufacturing efficiency that we have, we've seen positive effects coming out of manufacturing affecting the gross margin or more the product margin. We've seen a good or very strong business in jewelry and in retail, which both affect positively the gross margin. And apart from that, we've had good cost control. We have invested in communication, and that's something that we've been speaking about for the last 12 months at least, Because once again, these are big businesses, these are important businesses, these are leading businesses, but you need to defend them as well. And that's why we said that we will continue to invest in communication.

But I'd say it's a mix of various elements going in the same direction, right? Good sales growth, gross margin growth, good cost control and continued focused investment into communication at both Maisons. So this is where we are today. And if I was happy last year, I'm even happier today. The OpEx, 8% overall growth if you strip out the Online Distributors.

If you strip out the €77,000,000 onetime charges, which basically are twofold, €77,000,000 overall, euros 58,000,000 for Loncel and then the remainder of 2019 for taxes and fees linked to the acquisitions we did. Strip those out, we're actually slightly below 4% for the remainder or let's say 4% for the remaining expansion of the cost base.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Speaker 1

The next question is from Lucas Olca, Exane BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Yes. Good morning, Bocat. Good morning. Good morning, Luca. Good morning.

Question on YOOX NET A PORTER. If I understand correctly, looking at what you illustrated this morning, your focus so far has been on creating synergies between the UxNet Aporte distribution platform and the business the core business within the Richemont, Durie Maisons and Specialty Watchmakers as well as developing YOOX NET A PORTER internationally with the joint venture that you announced with Alibaba. Is there a time that you set on your agenda on the back of how these things pan out when you would look deeper into the operating functionalities of YOOX NET A PORTER and when you would consider changing parts of the business in order to make it more successful, both in terms of growth and profitability. On the second question is on the second hand watch market. I wonder what your thinking, your strategic thinking is on this side.

Watchfinder is an excellent player in this field, there seems to be a leader, Chron 24, which has significant volumes. What role do you anticipate for Watchfinder? Is that going to be your periscope in a way in this market? Or do you anticipate that with this platform, you can take a leading position in this area?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Luca. Listen, why not? You're right. I mean, we and let's just rebase this a bit. I mean, we've acquired the business and took control Even though from an accounting perspective, we took control on May 9.

Delisting was in the second half of June. So basically, we have said the first time with our colleagues, our new colleagues in the month of July, right? So actually, it's just been a few months, a very few intense months and very interesting months because not only are they great and very talented strong leaders in their field, but it is also enriching, I would say, for both sides to actually give exposure to what our respective business model is, right? We have had deep insight into their model, and that has influenced our thinking process and the other way around, where they our new colleagues have been able to discover what it is, how you run a hard lock which is quite significantly different from at least in the execution and operations side of how you run a soft luxury goods business. So I think that has been a very intense and very rich and enriching process.

And we have in this first step, clearly, as you also pointed out, focused on 2 things, which have taken up all our time, which have been focusing on quick wins, meaning we have now, apart from the online flagship stores that they run for Chloe and Dunhill even before, now an Alaia online flagship store. And we have now Cartier Plus 6 of the 8 Specialist Watchmakers trading actually through Net A Porter and Mr. Porter, right? So and that has been done, as you've seen, quite quickly. It's quite recent, but quickly done.

And this is part of the business development short term that we had in mind with them as well. And then the second major focus point has been to start and go through the discussions with Alibaba. And not only Alibaba, we've had basically, we've been speaking to all of the big players in China because the mainland Chinese market, obviously, with the huge potential it has and with the at current low rate of penetration for luxury online sales as compared to other consumer goods online sales. But nevertheless, with a very big potential, we wanted to crack that nut right in the beginning because we believe that is where there can be a significant upside for the luxury goods industry to trade through a joint venture between Alibaba and YOOX NET A PORTER. So this has taken up clearly all of our time and will continue to take up over time over probably the next 12 to 18 months because now we have announced our intention to form a joint venture.

Now we need to build this. And when we say we need to build this, this means we have to set up the company, we have to set up the technology stack, because it's not just a copy paste. This is for Chinese market, so you need to localize your technology. And then we need to set up the fulfillment capabilities, be it logistics, be it customer service, be it payment fulfillment, etcetera. And that is, quite simply speaking, not only a joint venture, but also a new venture.

This had not been done as such in China. And this is what our focus there is definitely going to be over the next 12 to 18 months. So and probably in the background, we are with our colleagues at YNAP, reviewing constantly and permanently not only our business models in the, let's say, more traditional branded model, the watch and jewelry Maisons, the fashion accessories Maisons, but we're also looking at the evolution or the necessary evolution of the business model of YNAP for the future. You know that even before Richemont came fully on board, they were working on expanding and capitalizing on the business opportunities on the Haight Luxury space. They launched a watch a dedicated watch section, etcetera, etcetera.

And obviously, with us on board, we can expand that because we have the knowledge on the hard luxury space. Anything else is not something that I can or could put out here because everything is that would be premature and not qualified at this stage.

Speaker 2

The question on the Watchfinder strategy?

Speaker 3

And the second question, so that was the, let's say, the YNAB angle. If we stay with the online distributors, Watchfinder actually is a very interesting business. We have fantastic insights today. Actually, we launched just recently a pilot with 1 of our watch Maisons in the UK to actually, on the ground, test future collaboration opportunities between Watchfinder and the Watch Maisons. It just launched about 2 weeks ago.

And so we'll monitor the results. It's supposed to run for a number of months and then we will take the learnings out of that and try to deploy it quickly across the other Maisons. A bit larger if we open the scope a bit on the pre owned watch market. We've been all discussing this in different ways over the past probably 12 to 18 months. There's a physical part of it, which is there's other dedicated physical retailers.

There's some international retailers who try to enter into that market. And if the customer wants that physical offer, then it definitely will be part of it. We believe it will be part of it because Watchfinder, through its own boutiques, is actually having an important part of the business roughly 40% done through physical locations and the rest is 60% is done online. So there is an omnichannel model there. The players in that market, you mentioned 1 in Germany.

The question is, what do you define and what do you mean when you say market leader? I mean, it's a totally different model that they have had so far, even though very recently they announced that they would also try to have an offer in the pre owned space, right? So we believe it's a big market. The most reliable numbers we have is probably some market volume of somewhere between €5,000,000,000 and €10,000,000,000 but then again, no one really knows. And that's a big market.

And I think the best customer proposal or proposition will, in the end, take a decent market share. We intend to build our business through Watchfinder because we think with the more than 15 years that they have been building this business, they have made the necessary mistakes and they have weeded that out. They do not engage in gray market. They have deep, deep customer understanding that now benefits our Maisons as well. And we are looking and discussing plans with them to expand into new markets.

So for us, it's more than a periscope. It's probably the submarine.

Speaker 10

Understood. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Luca. Next question please.

Speaker 1

The next question is from Thomas Chabot of Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Yes, Thomas Chabot.

Speaker 11

Good morning, Bockert and Sophie. Two questions, please. Firstly, on Watches distribution. Over the past year, you've been quite vocal about the future distribution model, which you think has to be done through on retail and online rather than traditional wholesale partners. I feel that Rolex and Swatch Group have a different view than you, but you might be right in the end.

We'll see. Can you try to be a bit more specific on what the implications are in terms of plant closures of wholesale doors, acceleration in own retail expansion for the specialty swatches, but also how to find and train the right salespeople to provide great customer experience, drive conversion, etcetera. For what it's worth, I've never been overly impressed by the experience in stand alone watch boutiques in your own network and at some of your competitors. And secondly, on leather goods, at the half year results last year, Mr. Rupert was on the line and he highlighted the growth opportunities, resilience offered by the goods.

It's a category where, as we all know, you've historically underperformed, maybe because of underinvestments, maybe you had the wrong portfolio. Now with Lancel Shanghai Tang gone, are you happy to pursue an organic growth strategy with the remaining brands, so Chloe, Montblanc, Dunhill and I think small leather goods at Cartier? Or do you think that with the €4,000,000,000 bond insurance, you've had now a more flexible balance sheet to participate maybe in the sector consolidation? And by the way, what was leather goods so weak in the first half at minus 3? Thank you.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 3

Okay. Watch distribution. Now you mentioned what our competitors or the approach that our competitors are taking. You mentioned our approach. I think and these our competitors, as we all know, are having great brands and are doing, from what we see, a very good business.

Whilst we are today in a period where we are suffering from self inflicted pain, I must say, when we try to deploy our view of how the watch business should be run, should be done and probably will evolve in the future. And what is that? And I think our starting point is clearly that we focus and we try to focus our Maisons and our businesses on the end customer. Traditionally, the watch business is clearly a wholesale based model and which had a lot of opportunities in the past and has permitted to grow the watch business overall to a 20 +1000000000 business for the entire industry. What we think is the big disruption today affecting not only the watch business, but other businesses and now very strongly the luxury goods business is that the customer today is empowered.

He has he's a very well informed customer because he does research online, even though the majority of transactions still take place in the physical space. But the research the product research part is very strong. The customer knows about the prices. The customer knows exactly which product he wants, and then he wants to trade wherever it's convenient for him. So he wants the choice as well.

And so we believe that this change in nature of the customer and that has happened quickly, very quickly, also because the further east you look, the more digitally native or empowered customers you have. That is just the name of the game today. So now if you want to understand how these customers click, you need to have exposure to them face to face exposure, be it in your offline retail stores, which were, for example, for the Specialist Watchmakers over the last decade, I would say we've built a network of about 300 stores. And be it online, where you probably even have on the data collection side a much quicker and a much broader insight if you have the capabilities, right? That's why also the addition of a watchfinder helps us in that journey.

So that's our view of the world. Now what does that mean? How will that play out over time? I've said it before. The retail store network that we have for Specialist Watchmakers and if we take that example, has been built out to about 300 stores.

You are right, the experience is perfectible depending on where you go, which brand you see, be it our brands, be it other brands outside of the group. But I think it has something to do with the nature of understanding how to deal with an end customer. And that's a and I've been in the jewelry business. It is at the heart of how you view the world. If you look at the end customer, your approach to many things, be it product development, be it communication, be it distribution is skewed differently than when you come from a more traditional wholesale business where actually you never see your end customer.

And that plays out once again in product development, communication, etcetera. So we're in the process and I think the entire watch industry is in the process of shifting towards a more customer and customer centric approach, and that takes time, that takes a lot of training, that takes also a certain mentality or culture that you need to establish in your Maisons, and that doesn't happen overnight. So the experience you refer to probably comes from that. I think it's improving. It's improving quickly, but it has to be in the end in line with what the customer expectations are.

Now that applies also to our external wholesale partners because they also have to adapt to customers or customer expectations, which means they also have to build their retail offer, they have to build their retail online offer, they have to build their communication skills, etcetera, etcetera, all the way down to logistics fulfillment capabilities. So if you asked specifically numerically how this is going to play out over the next decade, I cannot tell you. What we believe is retail is we're in a good place today. We need to work on the experience. We'll probably expand a bit left, right and center the network, but not massively.

Take as a proxy Cartier, our mature jewelry business, they have not grown the network footprint on the retail side in the last years because they believe they are where they should be. And now they're working on integrating that with the offline with the online retail part. So the Specialist Watchmakers, they're slightly behind that point. So they'll probably expand slightly, but not massively, the retail footprint over time, where it makes sense and where it is a profitable business. Now the wholesale channel, I believe over time will numerically reduce, but we are not forcing it.

We are working with our partners to improve the customer experience. We can help with that. And if the customer experience is something the customer really wants, then it will buy with these with our trade partners and then they will have their place. And the rest is really up to the customer to decide, not to us. So that's the way I see the world or we view the world going forward.

On the leather goods side, the first point here is trading or the expansion or the decrease more of the leather goods is in part explained by the disposal of Lancel, which happened in the first half of this year, which obviously that's where you take out another good sales. That has also impacted, by the way, the number of retail directly operated retail stores that we have. Apart from that, we have had we've seen expansion in the leather goods business in the first half. Cartier launch is coming. We have last year, as we said, acquired a small business, but with development and manufacturing capabilities, Serapion, to strengthen our leather hub in Italy.

That leather hub is now scaled up and ready to go for working with several of the group Maisons already and will also help with the development and our launch of the Cartier relaunch of the Cartier Leather Goods offer. Today, we're focused on organic expansion. We have never excluded acquisitions. We're not hunting for acquisitions today. And I would say with the integration of the YNAP and Watchfinder business, we have a lot on our plate these days.

Speaker 11

Thank you so much, Anthony.

Speaker 3

Okay.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Thomas. Next question please.

Speaker 1

The next question is from Antoine Belge of HSBC. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Yes. Hi, it's Antoine Belge, HSBC.

Speaker 3

Hello, Antoine.

Speaker 10

Two questions and one remark. First question is on the evolution of wholesale in the first half, I think up 1% overall, but I think Sophie mentioned that Cartier was negative. So it means that the Specialties Watch Rek here were probably slightly up. I was a bit surprised by this because the inventory buyback at Cartier now dating 2 years ago and I was expecting maybe that after 2 years of restructuring of wholesale, we could start to see some kind of growth at Cartier. So maybe could you comment on that?

2nd question relates to the nomination of Group CEO recently. Yet yourself you're not reporting to him and so the 2 more senior member of the management team are also not reporting to him. So what is exactly the change in the nature of his function? And then the remark is about your unwillingness to give any guidance on 1 up. I understand that, but please, I do understand that this will result in a big volatility or discrepancy in the consensus because we have to assume to estimate the depreciation charge and the sort of investment and especially there is no disclosure on the financial implication of the joint venture with Alibaba.

So if you again, if you could make a bit of an exception and maybe provide a bit of a guidance to in terms of what will be the impact because otherwise the consensus would be all over the place.

Speaker 3

So that's the comment. Okay.

Speaker 2

I had 3 questions.

Speaker 3

No, no. That was 2 questions and a comment, I heard.

Speaker 2

Okay, sir.

Speaker 3

Wholesale. Listen, overall, we said well, Sophie, you did not say that yes, you said wholesale sales were slightly down, right, over the prior year period at the Jewellery Maisons, correct?

Speaker 2

Yes, correct.

Speaker 3

Okay. So and the Specialist Watchmaker comments that we made was that we had a very strong retail expansion, double digits, which by deduction means that the wholesale sales were lower, and we also spelled that out. So now do you want me to qualify that? I mean, wholesale sales were I could even qualify them broadly in line with previous years, yet slightly below. And that just clearly reflects the apart from, let's say, one off effects, which have affected the Jewellery Maisons, meaning Cartier, of internalization of in the Middle East of an agent business into now a newly founded subsidiary, so basically transforming wholesale sales into retail sales.

If you back that out, then Cartier wholesale business is probably slightly expanding. On the Specialist Watchmakers, it clearly reflects our, I would say, unwavering commitment to clampdown and end gray market trading because we do not want to feed products directly or indirectly into the gray market. And that has resulted in the closing down of some accounts. At the same time, we are continuing to deploy what we did with Cartier because this is now a KPI that we follow every month, that is to monitor the sell in, which has to be below the sell out, at least for the current point in time. So that has led to a slightly negative wholesale performance at the Specialist Watchmakers.

And that is what it is. Until this is fixed, it will remain as such. Group CEO. As you've seen and as you just mentioned, Mr. Lambert has been nominated as group CEO recently.

We have for the best, what, 18 months or so, have had a senior executive committee, which has been broadened by bringing in managers to manage actually the specialist watchmakers with Emmanuel Perin and to manage the fashion accessories Maisons and Montblanc with Eric Valin. So we have broadened the management focus on managing the businesses. And then we have also Sirui Vignon for Cartier and Nicolas Vos for Van Cleef and Aertelts who manage these businesses directly. It was the assessment of the Board that as these businesses are very strong and strongly and strong in many aspects, not only in top line and in bottom line contribution, but also in terms of retail business of customer insight of being a bit ahead of the curve in terms of digital customer relations that these two businesses, which are a big stand alone business, should be represented on the Board and as such should directly report to the Board. And as to myself, the conclusion of the Board was as well that it is more important that the CEO and the CFO closely partner and work together, but having both of them independently reporting to the Board.

This is the way we have Richemont view checks and balances as well. Does that answer your question?

Speaker 10

Yes. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Antoine. Next question please.

Speaker 1

The next question is from Francesca Di Pasquantonio, Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Yes. Hi, good morning everyone. Hi, Patrick. Hi. I have a couple of remaining questions.

The first one is a follow-up on watches and wholesale and more relating to the release of provisions and how long you expect that to continue, whether it's going to affect also the second half performance at profitability for the specialist watchmakers? The second question is regarding travel retail. And I was wondering whether you have any updated plan in terms of

Speaker 11

the distribution

Speaker 4

update in with respect also to your relationship with the free, whether this is creating more opportunities for your Maisons? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Listen, Francesca, first one on the watch also, actually we haven't released provisions. We've built provisions. I would have loved to release them. And in fact, the level of provisions we built in the first half of the year were inventory provisions related to the buybacks that we announced at the end of the last fiscal year.

We announced SEK 200,000,000 impact on the revenue side and said that we can only build provisions once we physically have the inventory back, right? So and we said, well, this is going to happen in the first half of this year and this is what actually played out in the first half of this year. It's a good €30,000,000 provision inventory, provision that we built for that. And that's why we said, when we strip out those inventory provisions, actually the operating margin compared to the previous year would have increased by 130 basis points. Now that's just stripping out stuff, right?

But basically, this is something that is linked to the inventory buybacks and that was built in the first half of this fiscal year. And with that, the inventory buybacks with their impact through P and L is done now, right? So that should not touch on the second half of the year. What should remain present in the second half of the year is clearly the ongoing focus on managing sell in compared to sell out, right? And there, the only thing I can say is, well, when it normalizes, then it normalizes.

I cannot really give you any guidance on that. But the technical effects of the buybacks are done in H1.

Speaker 4

Okay. Very clear.

Speaker 3

Travel Retail, we have we've had the chance to speak about this in the past. I would say what we've said in the past is that we have sat with Dufry and have defined a 3 year expansion plan, which basically is focused on fashion and accessories, Maisons and Montblanc. That's where we see the biggest upside in terms of numerical extension of the distribution. If I recall correctly, the expansion of points of sale is somewhere projected around €50,000,000 or plus, and a good third of that has already happened. It has to go, in many cases, with the renewal of concessions where space is then renegotiated from their side with the operators on the other side.

And so that's why it is a deployment plan over 3 years. We cannot just walk in there and say, okay, now we take this space. It has to have it's linked with the renewal of their concession for the airports mainly. So we're on track for that and it's a 3 year expansion plan.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Francesca. Next question please.

Speaker 1

Next question is from Rogerio Fujimori of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Good morning Rogerio. Hi. Good morning. Good morning, Boker. Two questions, please.

I think you've mentioned that inventory rotation was up to around 22 months of COGS from 20 last year. And I can see the bulk was driven by finished goods. So I was just wondering if you could elaborate on what's happening on the inventory front. And then just a follow-up on watches. I think you flagged up double digit in retail and maintaining, I think, undersupply of watches to the market.

Should we expect selling to stay below sellout for the foreseeable future, just given the need to limit product basically feeding the online gray market? Or should we expect the gap to narrow in the next 18, 24 months?

Speaker 3

Yes. Inventory, 2 elements here to consider. 1 is the obviously, the consolidation of the YOOX, NET A PORTER and the Watchfinder inventory that we have bought with the company. So that obviously impacts the overall inventory holdings. Overall, inventory goes up by a good €1,000,000,000 and there is Maison inventory plus the inventory increase, and I'll get to that in a second.

And then there is the inventory that we just consolidated into our numbers now on the YOOX and Watchfinder side. As to the Maisons inventory, it is a planned increase. So I'm quite relaxed about it. It's a planned increase, which actually is slightly below the increase we planned for. And I would say split half and half between finished goods.

This finished goods increase is mainly on the jewelry side and on the fashion and accessories side, to a lesser extent, on the watches. And then the other half of the inventory buildup is in work in progress, meaning stones and raw materials and to a lesser extent components. So we are aware of that because it was planned as such. And obviously, these components and stones will then return to finished goods, and we should see a drawdown of the inventory in the second half of the year. That's our usual cycle as well.

We built it up in the first half because then we have October, November, the big wholesale month and December, the big retail month coming up. And the question about the sell in. Thank you, Sophie. It is what I just said to Francesca. I mean, I think it will normalize.

That is what we see. It will normalize when actually there is a hopefully a slight undersupply in the market because that will then pull the inventory from our warehouses into our customers' boutiques. And that's what luxury used to be in the past, right, that there is a slight tension on the inventory, which helps the rarity perception of our products and that is what Luxury is about. Now we're not doing it for that purpose, and we're doing it because we think a slight tension in the inventory cycle or supply will help us really only produce what we sell. And in this case, our partners sell to the end customers.

So obviously, sell in cannot remain sell out forever because in the end, you'll end up with 0 inventory holdings, and that's not what we intend to do. So it'll normalize. When it normalizes, it really depends also to a large extent on the sellout on our wholesale customer side, where as I said earlier, we think we are seeing also a double digit expansion. I know it doesn't help for the models, but

Speaker 2

Yes. That's totally all you say.

Speaker 6

Yes. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

Thank

Speaker 2

you. Next question, please.

Speaker 1

The next question is from John Cox of Kepler. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Yes, good morning guys.

Speaker 11

Hi, John. How are things?

Speaker 13

Just a couple of questions from my side. One just on Santos and the relaunch there. And I'm wondering how it's going. You mentioned it's going pretty well. Can you sort of give us any just wondering if anything else coming down the pipe, particularly with Cartier watches, where there's still this perception maybe you're losing ground against some of the other brands out there.

If you have any sort of granularity on where you think share is or anything like that, that would be very useful. And then just on YNAP, just on the dynamics there. I think a lot of people say the risk is some of the bigger luxury players sort of want to get off the platform because you can obviously see exactly how well they're doing. I'm wondering if you've given them any assurances or are you seeing anything like that, like a slowdown? And then linked to YNAP, some guys are saying as well that Farfetch has a actual luxury platform at the expense of YNAP.

Just wondering what your thoughts are on that and what you think about the competitive landscape there? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Okay. This is easy for me. Let me pitch the question on Santos Toca to Sophie, to my side. And then I'll chip back in afterwards.

Speaker 2

All right. So as we say, and I think also it's written in the company announcement, the relaunch of Santos has done is doing is extremely successful. And so was the Pantel relaunch last year. There's been additional collection, references also within the bestsellers of Balon Bleu. So actually Cartier has been quite active, and it has been reflected really in their watch sales, in particular in retail.

Speaker 3

My time again? Okay. Yes, just probably there was a question of or an added question about market share and CATIA losing market share and ground on the watch side. We changed management at Cartier 2.5 years ago because we had the impression that we had on the watch side a sliding market share. And the clear mission of Sirui Vigneron and his team was to bring Cartier to back probably back to what it was and for what it stands.

And we think the work that the team has done in the last 24 or so months has been fantastic. I mean, we've seen a new Cartier, which resembles more what they stand for. Not only a jewelry Maisons with exceptional pieces and a fantastic high quality distribution network on the retail side, but also a watch Maison, which has pivoted back to the female customer and the elegant men and has slightly stepped back from the high complication, very technical watch business. And that all of these choices were deliberate choices. And what we can see is that, that journey that they have taken is a very successful journey.

We're extremely happy with the business development. And I think, Melanie mentioned it earlier, with the leverage coming out of that business now, we're actually the jewelry Maisons category was below 30%, whilst Cartier was restructuring their offer and their communication and their distribution approach. And now as you can see, a healthy business produces healthy margins or operating margins. So that's why we carry and we worry about that, but our focus is on the long term. Now if that means, and we've had a discussion, I think, when we were discussing 6 months ago or 18 months ago, inventory buybacks And the question was, well, that means you lose market share.

And the answer was always the same. Well, if that means that to protect the long term viability of our business model, we lose short term market share, then so be it. And we're happy or not happy, if I tell you. We're willing to take that risk, that impact if it serves the long term view and vision that we deploy for our businesses. So I don't know, we don't monitor market shares on a day to day basis.

I'm just saying we're very comfortable with the way Cartier is going. Now the second question about YNAB and Farfetch, and you can understand by nature, I have a bit more difficulty of talking about the Farfetch model also because I would probably not be the most qualified person to do that. What we have done when we and we've been engaged for many years with YNAP, first as on the Net A Porter side for about 15 years and with YNAP owning half of it for the last 3 years and now owning 100% of it. And actually, we took this decision over the last 18 months to go down that road and which has finally resulted in the decision to buy out the remaining or outstanding shares that we didn't own because we believe that it is a we still believe it's the leading luxury online retailer with a significant size, and we believe in the potential of that business. They are very talented teams.

They've had some challenges in the last 12 months, not only us coming on board and just sitting in front of these guys who don't understand their business, But also because they've had integration issues for Outnet, they've been very busy over the last few years actually bringing the two sides of the business together, and that's a significant focus point for them. That's a significant work load to still that they've done in the past, and they still need to continue until the end of that road. Now we're building with them and Alibaba not only a joint venture in China, but at the same time, we're also pushing our Maisons onto their platform, and that will continue over the next 12, 18, 24 months. So I think from our side, all signals are on go. We believe it is a winning proposition if the customer agrees with us, right?

Because let's not forget, the ultimate boss is the customer. If YNAP through its 4 brands remains attractive for the end customer, then it will be an attractive proposition. If Farfetch is attractive for the end customer and remains so, then it will be an attractive player going forward. That's the way we view the world. And there has been a lot of hype around Farfetch recently.

There was hype around YNAB a few years ago when the merger happened. Let's just see over time what the customer thinks. That's probably a bit high level view we take, but that's the way we view the world. We do this for the customer.

Speaker 2

Okay, John.

Speaker 11

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Next question please.

Speaker 1

The next question is from Louise Singlehurst of Goldman Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning. Hi, Sophie Burkhard. Thank you very much for my questions. 2 from me and actually the first one, Burkhard, is a follow-up on YNAP. The industry is clearly focused on moving much more towards retail away from wholesale, very clear in your own business.

I mean, how are the discussions with the brands? Are they, for example, asking for more retail based models moving away from what we've called traditional e tail to more concession based online operating model? And then my second question, if you could just talk to us about the reporting structure across the business. Obviously, a lot has changed across the senior management team and the leadership structure in the last two years, departure of Mr. Kern, the Chief Digital Officer as well.

Just in terms of the practicalities and who's actually in charge of the YNAP integration process, I presume that's Mr. Lambert.

Speaker 3

Okay. Yes, yes, yes, Louis. I mean, we get confused as well sometimes, but we always figure it out at the end of the day. But let me answer the first question. What is the expectation?

When you refer to the brands, is that our brands or our Maisons or the YNAP? Are there 3rd party brands trading for YNAP or both?

Speaker 6

More the 3rd party, it's pretty clear that obviously a big rationale for you buying in the business is to do your own e commerce and it's thinking more about the 3rd part, isn't it, the platform to facilitate in its existing basis

Speaker 8

more retail? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Okay. Yes, got it. No, I think the point is and I think we made that clear or YNAB has made clear in the past, and we've recently talked about it when we announced the intended JV with Alibaba. We think the keyword is omnichannel, which we've been talking about for a while. But let's say, more specifically, DTC or direct to consumer, right?

Because brands, they and that is our Maisons are brands, but that also applies to the brands that trade through YNAP. They are all evolving. We have all evolved from opening or trading through YNAB as, okay, an additional distribution channel next to the retail channel they have, the retail offer they have. They are all moving philosophy wise, but also concretely to linking online and offline retail distribution points of sale because they all want to understand what the end customer thinks. And today, there are technology solutions that are being deployed that have not existed a few years ago.

I take two examples. I take the example of the what YNAP has been starting to do with one of the major Italian based fashion brands that are one of the major brands they trade with, where they have put in place their omnichannel or future retail model, which through technology gives the brand insight into stock holdings across the different distribution channels, mainly their own retail network and the YNAP stores, which permits them to serve their customers in the end. So it's and they've been talking about it. It's with Valentino. So that's their new omnichannel capabilities that they are starting to deploy.

When we announced Alibaba, YNAB joint venture intention, there we also spoke about what Alibaba calls new retail, which is the same approach basically saying through technology, we can tie together online and offline retail flagship stores for the benefit of our customers. So I must say probably the buzzwords in the years to come will be how do we actually concretely move from a concept of omnichannel to an actual deployment of omnichannel capabilities. And I think that is something that the industry is now moving to. We are talking very vocally about it for a while. What is exciting about it is that now we start to see the 1st technology solutions to actually start to do that.

I think there's still a lot of ground to cover or to be conquered in the years going forward, but at least we're coming into more concrete execution mode now. Does that answer the question?

Speaker 6

Ruiz? Great. Thank you.

Speaker 3

And the second, the reporting structure, very in a way, very simple.

Speaker 2

And who is in charge of this? The 1 up and

Speaker 3

integration? Yes. CEO oversees in our structure the Specialist Watchmakers, the Fashion Accessory Maisons, including Montblanc, the corporate functions and is the lead or leading the YNAP Watchfinder integration process very clearly. And the 2 jewelry businesses obviously are not operating in their own world. They run their businesses.

The CEOs run their businesses. They report into the Board, but they obviously we're all part of the Senior Executive Committee where we run the business together. I myself, I just tag along, right?

Speaker 6

Wish. That's great. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Time is running out, so I guess we'll

Speaker 3

15 minutes.

Speaker 2

Get. All right. So next question, please.

Speaker 1

The next question is from John Guy of MainFirst. Please go ahead.

Speaker 14

Good morning, guys.

Speaker 3

John, nice to have you there. Yes, thank you for that.

Speaker 14

I'm looking forward to the deal. So I'm just I

Speaker 4

had a giggle.

Speaker 3

I had a giggle, but okay. Okay. Thanks for

Speaker 14

that. My first question is on the YNAF and Alibaba JV. And I appreciate it's very early doors, but I don't think anyone is really attributing any value for this yet. And are you able just to provide an initial view in terms of what you think the JV percentage of Tmall active customers could be? I mean, are we talking 1% or is it less than that?

I think that's very interesting angle. And my second question is around the agreement that you signed now a while ago with Swatch Group with regards to long term supply of components of movements, clearly, after 2019, there'll be a change in the pricing dynamic. And I'm wondering what you expect from 2020 from an industry perspective as to where Components and Movements pricing goes. That would be very interesting just to get your thoughts there too.

Speaker 3

Claude? Yes, JV, I mean, that's an interesting or interesting questions you pose there. I mean, obviously, we have we've with our future partners of Alibaba, we've run our numbers. We've done a business plan. Obviously, you cannot really put it out here publicly.

That would also be against the agreements we have with them. Look at it this way. I mean, if you look at their and that's purely our perspective, right? They're trading with about 600,000,000 plus 1000000 customers, right? On Tmall, there is on Tmall, let's say, the Luxury Pavilion, there's about 75 brands today, which compares more or less to what you have with the competitors in terms of number of brands present.

Now and then what is, and I must say, quite fascinating about their business is that their ecosystem around it, big part of it is also the financial ecosystem that they have through AN Financial through Alipay is and their Alimama marketing capabilities is built so that traffic or let's say customer purchasing patterns are extremely well analyzed and understood. I think their capabilities are way beyond ours. And actually is the entire machine, I would say, is geared to driving traffic to these different destinations that they have. And Luxury Pavilion, obviously, is a very exclusive part of their entire ecosystem where the luxury trading or trading with luxury brands between the businesses and the consumers happens today, and we see significant upside there. Now it's a bit difficult to catch up with them because their numbers evolve so quickly in terms of GMV growth, in terms of customer growth, in terms of transactions transactional growth that I would be hard pressed today to say which part of, let's say, the 600,000,000 customers will over time be driven towards Luxury Pavilion and towards YNAP.

I know it's important to run simulations. I can't really speculate about that.

Speaker 14

Maybe just on that, I mean, we've seen that the 28 or so partner brands that were initially registered saw an average incremental user base of 6,500,000 with the highest growth brand recruiting over 30,000,000 customers. So I mean this is a huge opportunity for you.

Speaker 3

Yes. We clearly believe. But let's be clear. I mean, we've announced it. Now we need to build it.

And it obviously, when you speak to Alibaba, for them, it's about technology, speed of execution and fulfillment because this is, 1st and foremost, targeting the Chinese market, our domestic market and then traveling Chinese. So and their speed is of the essence, and we fully agree with that. Obviously, if we look at our part of the bargain is we, through YNAB, have, I must still say, quite an industry leading capability to engage with Maisons, engage with the brands. 3rd party brands, ours are given. But 3rd party brands, they are considered as being neutral and that's why we intend to keep it.

And they have also programs to curate and bring newness in terms of brands to customers, and that is also something that very much plays out with the Chinese customer. When you have brands that are very strong, very powerful, customers perceive that they also want to have newness coming in. And we believe that with the Vanguard program that Y and I have launched, they have even increased and strengthened our capability to create these brands, to discover them, to create them, to bring them to the customer. And I think, once again, that is what we are focusing on apart from, obviously, building the entire thing. So and that's actually where we have had discussions with the brands after we announced that we've had good feedback.

They're excited as we are about this opportunity. And we hope that when we put it in place, that it's going to be a winning proposition for China. But once again, this is not necessarily about targeting a market share of X and being the leading and what have you. It is 1st and foremost of fulfilling the needs of the customer. If we do that, then we'll probably be the leader.

And we believe that is the opportunity we have, but it is not about targeting specific market shares, but serving the customer.

Speaker 14

Great. And just any comment on the components and movements pricing would be fantastic.

Speaker 3

Can't really comment on that. I mean, we have very good and constructive relationships with Swatch. And probably, you should ask that question to them. But as we're a party of discussions with them, you cannot really project that out to the industry other than saying good constructive relationships over many years already, and we intend to keep it that way. And I think what we hear from them is they have the same view.

Speaker 14

Great. Thank you very much indeed. Thanks, John.

Speaker 2

Thank you, John. Next question, please. So we'll take 2 more questions.

Speaker 1

The question is from Patrick Schwedeman of ZKB. Please go ahead.

Speaker 15

Good morning, Borghardt. Good morning, Sophie and James. First question, in H1, you had plus 30% in retail and plus 1% in wholesale. In H2, you have a really low basis in wholesale. So would it be a fair assumption to say that the gap between retail and wholesale will be lower in the second half of the year?

That's my first question.

Speaker 3

Yes, fair second.

Speaker 15

And second question regarding gross margin and OpEx, gross margin of 60 point 2.5 percent in H1 and adjusted OpEx was up 4% in H1. Would it be a fair assumption to expect similar rates in the full year? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Isn't it a guidance?

Speaker 3

That sounds like a guidance question, right?

Speaker 4

Yes, I

Speaker 12

mean, yes.

Speaker 15

Just a fair assumption, not the guidance.

Speaker 3

I think it's a fair assumption, yes. But as you know, we don't guide.

Speaker 15

So for gross margin and OpEx?

Speaker 3

That would be a fair assumption. Just on the gross margin, you just probably in your fair assumptions would have to adjust for 11 months 10 months of trading with YNAP and Watchfinder. So the impact would probably be slightly more. Slightly.

Speaker 2

Okay, Patrick.

Speaker 15

And for wholesale?

Speaker 3

I would say it's a fair assumption that the gap between the retail expansion and the wholesale expansion will narrow just simply by the fact that in the on 31st March, so affecting Q4, we took a 200,000,000 euros buyback provision. So obviously, you factor that back in, that growth rate mechanically goes back into positive territory for the specialist watchmakers.

Speaker 15

Okay, great. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Patrick. So that concludes our results presentation. Thank you very much for attending it. If you have any further questions, obviously, James or I would be available to answer them. And wishing you a good day.

Speaker 3

Thank you very much for your time.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Bye bye.

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