Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Q1 2021 Results Conference Call and Live Webcast. I am Alice, the Chorus Call operator. The conference must be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, it's my pleasure to hand over to Doctor. Beth Lestreitze, CEO of Kuehne and Nagel.
Please go ahead, sir.
Thanks, Alice. Good morning, good day, Good afternoon and good evening to all of you, and welcome to the analyst conference on the Q1 2021 results of Kuehne and Nagel International AG. Our CFO, Markus Blanka, and I welcome you from sunny Switzerland. We published our Q1 2021 results and the respective slide deck early this morning. And as always, let's get started On Slide 3, we have seen a very strong demand for our transport and logistics services in the Q1 20 21 and thus have started the year strongly with an increase of net turnover of 22.8 percent, With an increase of gross profit purely from organic growth of 16.9% and an increase of earnings per share of 130.4% versus previous year.
The free cash flow slightly decreased By 7.1% compared to previous year, while in last year's figures, we have shown Proceeds from sale of real estate. Let's continue on Slide 4 with some details, Slide overview on the group and the business units. The quarter 1 EBIT resulted at CHF 4 CHF 31,000,000 which were up 134.2 percent Result from pure operational strength in all four business units. There were no one offs Recorded in the Q1 2021. With a group conversion rate of 21% Marking an all time high, we have to say.
SEA Logistics EBIT closed at CHF 206,000,000, Very strong operational performance with an increase in service intensity versus an almost chaotic sea freight market. For sure, we will go into more details later on. Air Logistics closed the Q1 with an EBIT of CHF 163,000,000. Strong volume and yield performance in the Q1 led to that result. A very solid operational Performance in Road Logistics led to an EBIT of CHF 24,000,000, while the European volumes are recovering And continue to grow.
Contract Logistics closed the Q1 with an EBIT of CHF 38,000,000. We are back to organic growth on market level. And As expected, the restructuring is bearing fruit. More details now on the business units, And please follow me on Slide 6. Here you see the C and Air Logistics volumes.
Let me start with Seal Thanks first. The KN Sea Logistics volume is up 2% versus previous year's quarter 1. Although exports of commodities like forest, agricultural and recycling product, paper, for example, Ex U. S. And Europe were down 20%, a result of the high rates in the market, which could not be bear by those shippers.
Focus of KN has been on serving our top customers with a high service intensity. Our LCL less container load volumes were up 26% and the Trans Pacific Asia to U. S. Volumes We are up more than 35%. U.
S. And partly Europe, imports were booming, Which were a result, obviously, of the government stimulus programs. And the market situation is unchanged. We have equipment shortages, we have carrier capacity shortages, and we have a very low port productivity Driven by the pandemic, all those parameters are staying intact, so to And we believe that the market situation remains unchanged for the next couple of months. Let's continue with Air Logistics volumes.
First time after 2 years, we returned to a robust growth With a volume growth of 16.4%. This was mainly driven by automotive, pharma and high-tech And with a very strong tonnage trend also continuing, while general cargo and especially perishables underperformed. Also here, strong Asia exports, Transpac and Europe, here to mention. And the situation in the capacity Supply, the long haul PACS, battery capacity is still depressed, while the current depends On dedicated freighters, on block space agreement and charters continues. And After the volume overview for C and Air Logistics, let's continue with some unit KPIs for C Logistics on Slide 8.
The strong year that you have seen in quarter 1 reflects both: a favorable portfolio development, Small and medium sized enterprises and no commodity in our mix, virtually no commodity, Delivering second effect, delivering an intensified and premium service to meet the Exceedingly high customer demand versus a constrained market situation, and I said it before, a rather chaotic market, very difficult to predict. So our production intensity also increased. More demanding services require Additional cost, additional manpower, additional expertise and thus leading into a high EBIT per TEU, Which is CHF 50 to CHF 60 3 per TEU higher than the usual guidance that we give for the Per TEU EBIT that we expect in a normal market environment. The Air Logistics unit KPIs, Slide 10, those To compare with our operational air logistics figures, so it's no one offs reported in those KPIs. For previous quarters, I'm not talking about quarter 1 2021.
This quarter, the last quarter, we delivered a small degree of yield and EBIT per unit normalization. So you'll see that we have a stable, maybe more predictable market environment. Stable unit costs, including first effects of our eTouch initiatives, and we have reported in our last call in more detail On this and we'll do so in our call on the semi annual result for 2021 In summer this year and anticipating a much greater degree of stability in the Air yields and EBIT per unit, that's for the moment our outlook for this market segment. There's little changes in demand mix and capacity situation, which also drives a more stable, but still high market situation. We go through to Slide 12, our 3rd business unit, Road Logistics, And we mentioned that on the previous slide, European cross border business is recovering and the demand of Transports in Europe started to grow again.
And in a nutshell, we could say a weak start, Especially in Europe and especially the Brexit situation, the 1st 4 weeks or maybe 6 weeks and a very strong finish Deliver a satisfactory result. The continuation of our shipment recovery in Europe, but at lighter average Weight of shipments, which we mentioned already in our last call, driving productivity strain, especially with European in the European Road Logistics business. North America remains still weak, and we have seen that the rollout of our e track platform Started also successfully in Europe and in other markets. So we see huge booking increases on that platform, Not only last quarter, but continuing also in this quarter. The EBIT for the Q1 2021 at €44,000,000 which is 41.2 percent above prior year, purely operational, purely organic, No special effect included in those figures.
And then let's move on to contract logistics, our 4th business unit. And we mentioned that also in our press announcement, back to organic growth and the restructuring bearing fruit. And we have seen, Although we grow on market level, especially in the pharma and healthcare sector as well in e commerce fulfillment, market share gains throughout the last quarter. EBIT rises significantly, thanks to the restructuring fully concluded And accomplished and a return to deliberate organic top line growth. Strong momentum gained in Pharma, Health Care and e commerce fulfillment.
And we will repeatedly mention that because these are leverage areas, as we call them, which bear fruits across I'll assume it's as well. We have reported an EBIT for the Q1 of CHF 38,000,000, which is CHF 16,000,000 above prior year, excluding divestment impacts, A pure organic improvement, which shows the strong operational development of contract logistics. Let me summarize. Our group marks a strong start to 2021. Still, the majority of our white color Staff is working mobile or from home, so we shouldn't underestimate the situation.
It's almost 2 thirds of The people that are still not in a normal business environment, there's only one country globally where we have normal business environment pre pandemic, which is Greater China. And I would like to state once more a heartfelt thank you to all our colleagues worldwide for serving our Customers, excellent versus the many market challenges and daily challenges we all have to face. Great job. Thank you very much. And now I have the honor and pleasure to hand over to Markus, who will lead you through the key financial figures.
Thank you, Detlef. Also, ladies and gentlemen, welcome from my side. I start on number 16, income statement. And indeed, it's a very strong quarter. We can report in absolute terms and also in relative terms to last year, of course.
I have to say, I will keep presentation short. It's easier to talk to good numbers, obviously, than anything else. Anyway, a little bit into the details of the development in the Q1. I want to point out Two specific numbers. The first number, the gross profit increase on the nominal side, CHF 141,000,000.
If you look through the divestment impact of our contract logistics customer portfolio in the UK, Which we closed in January 2021, you have actually a growth of 16.9% on the gross profit line, which translates Into roughly CHF 285,000,000. Jumping down in the To the line of EBT, earnings before tax. So the incremental €285,000,000 gross profit have resulted in Around €248,000,000 EBT. 2 effects, yes, airfreight and sea freight, of course, Delivering extremely strong results. On the other side also, the effect out of the deconsolidation Where one may say we have exchanged a business that has a lower conversion rate With additional business in C and A Freight that has higher conversion rates.
Brings me to the second point I want to point out, Conversion rate, you can see here our conversion rate of 21.3% for the group. This relates and compares to our target of 16% for the year 2022. So now, of course, one could say that was an easy target. You have reached it already now. I just want to make sure we understand this also correctly.
It was a very strong quarter. We started off in 2021. For sure, There is the money that has been done in that quarter will not disappear, but I would be careful in just Extending 21.3 percent over the year 2021. Moving on to the balance sheet, Page number 17. Three topics.
One, more technical information. You still see here in December 31, the asset held For sale and the associated liabilities in the extended €400,000,000 That, of course after the consolidation in January has disappeared. Secondly, you see a huge increase in trade Receivables from SEK 3,400,000,000 at year end to SEK 4,100,000,000 in at the end of the first quarter. Function of and we may talk about it in the Q and A session then. It's a function of additional volume and, of course, Significantly higher rates for sea and air freight cargo.
Last but not least, Cash and cash equivalents, yes, SEK 1,800,000,000 on the balance sheet. You're well aware That we are in the process of closing with our acquisition in Asia with APACS. There we will need a certain liquidity out of this bucket and as well the next liquidity Reduction that we will see is the dividend payment in 2020, which leads me straight into the cash flow statement, Page Number 18, cash and free cash flow. Two items that I would like To peek out here, this is changes in working capital, €291,000,000 I come back On the trade receivables, yes, there is a huge increase in volume and rates That is pushing up the working capital requirement. And we will see that also on the statement for the net working capital intensity.
We have an increase in or slight increase in DSO of around one day, which leads as well into some of the Increases of the changes in working capital. 2nd, I want to point out the Free cash flow for the Q1 is here reported for the year 2021 with NOK 100 and €45,000,000 compared to €156,000,000 last year. Just want to mention that in last year's numbers, We have a cash inflow from disposal of real estate of €164,000,000 which in broad terms, you could say The Q1 last year was, with exception of the real estate inflow, Flat quarter, whereas this year, we have created SEK 145,000,000. Moving on swiftly to working capital, Page number 19. Comparing year over year end of March 20 End of March 2021.
And it is quite amazing that we work on the same net working capital in absolute terms, Around €900,000,000 that we need for the working capital requirements. So Same level of networking capital and double the profitability. So that's certainly a recipe that all of us like And all of us are driving 4. Going further down on the lines on the DSO, what I referred to Previously, a slight slippage in the DSO, 1.2 days, which certainly has also I contributed to what I said before in the changes in working capital. So overall, we have a picture of strong operational performance, Stable net working capital and some benefits from the divestment of assets That we said in the U.
K, which you can summarize and you can visually very easily see on the Page number 20. Return on capital employed has absolutely topped here at around 90%. Also here, I don't want to be the one that issues disclaimers too many times, but I think My calculations, and I repeat what I said also in the past, the technical return on capital employed rate for the balance sheet It's around 70%. Of course, when we have huge improvement in profitability, this moves upwards. But I think that is the 90% number is a number that we should remember as one of the Top end of our expectations.
With that brief run through the numbers, I would hand back to Daniel.
Thanks, Markus. Let us conclude on Slide 21 with the current perspectives. The emergence of the pandemic last You triggered a high degree of uncertainty, which persists to this day. As a consequence, we largely suspended the Usually quarterly outlook of KN and market volume growth, but what we can do and will share Our perspectives on current market trends and the positioning of the Kuehne and Nagel Group. And this is what you find on the slide here.
Let me start with market first. As said before, this is another year 2021 is another year that is impacted by the pandemic. Uncertainty is to persist. The economic And trade volume though we see rebounding. We see signs of macroeconomic recovery, especially in Asia, Partly North America and Europe.
And we see a clear consequence or direct link of The share of vaccination of the population and the economic rebound. The consumption patterns and supply chains Likely to undergo further change, I think we have to look at this in a differentiated way. Let me start with consumption patterns. Last year, at the same time, we saw a sharp rise of demand for essential goods and goods in the areas like consumer electronics, furnishing, home and garden improvements and so on. We see signs of this consumption shifting to The service industry, entertainment industry and travel industry, most likely with the highest impact in the The semester this year, also directly related to the share of vaccinated people in society.
The shift in supply chains, I think, are also very decisive and will lead us into the 2nd semester. We have seen higher demand for e commerce fulfillment activities throughout the last 12 months, Leading to smaller shipment sizes and increased safety stocks, partly sourcing Supply parts, especially for production from 2 distinct locations. And we This trend ongoing at least this for this year. What is Kuehne and Nagel's position? How do we face this Predictable market.
We are dealing with overcoming capacity constraints to provide reliable and quality services, Which is most important, visibility, transparency, most important for our customers. We provide value with solutions and technology solutions. I don't need to remind you, we mentioned that a couple of times today. Our pharma solutions, pharmahealthcare solutions, our e commerce fulfillment solutions, but also our solutions for The automotive sector, battery chain, also for the aerospace or airline industry With regards to interior change, the change of the equipment reflecting demand. This is based on our Technology platforms, I would like to mention a few.
We have more, obviously, as you all know. CXplorer, KNE Truck now, which I mentioned in Road Logistics And MyK KN, our online portal for all our customers. And We believe that KN remains well positioned and is ready to intensify the services for its customers and Supports the shifting of supply chains. Kuehne and Nagel marks a strong start to 2021. And this year remains challenging and unpredictable though.
But we are committed to our proven strategy of Providing reliable, high quality services to our customers, and it's about our logistics experts, Our technology platforms and our agility. And despite that unsecurity and unpredictability, we look forward into 2021 With a positive outlook. Thank you very much. And now we are open for Q and A.
The first question comes from the line of Daniel Ruska with Bernstein Research. Please go ahead.
Gentlemen, good afternoon. Congrats on the astounding remarkable quarter and Congrats on the organization delivering that amid the logistics uncertainty right now. Three questions then, if I may. You commented on the current demand mix And services shift, especially in the C business, if we weren't seeing the current disruptions in the market, it's kind of fast forward 2, 3 years from now. Do you think there will be an underlying shift in mix or services that support sustainably higher GP units in the upcoming year?
Secondly, again, on the disruption, you said Air would see a more stable development. And Markus then said, We should not expect conversion rates at 22% for all of 2021. How are you thinking about the developments in fee logistics then for the rest of the year, maybe more tactically? And anything the exit rates from Q1 can inform about Q2 or maybe even Q3 this year? And then lastly, given the notable absence of the Guidance slide today.
Could you just tell us if you're reevaluating your midterm goals, where are you in the process with your Board and the discussions? And when do you think you'll be able to share an update with the market? Thanks.
Hi, Daniel. Thank you for your questions. I'm happy to answer them. Let me start with the guidance slide. We believe we gave the guidance slide, which was the last slide that I referred to.
But what you're missing is figures. And it's absolutely impossible to give a percentage figure to growth or conversion rate at the moment, yes? With regards to the development of C Logistics, We see no major change in the next one, maybe 2 quarters. And if rates Go back to a normal level. I'm not talking about the extremely low level we got used to 4, 5 years ago.
Then we might see also Forest products, we might also see other commodities, pipe and paper, recycling material, agricultural products Coming back to the network, but it's really depending on the rates. For Air Logistics, we don't see any change In the capacity side for the next quarters to come because the market very much would need Valley capacity in order to drive the overall rates a bit down. So I think we all have to get used to higher rates in principle, while in the past, we were spoiled by extremely low rates in some markets.
Any underlying shift kind of in the mix? Since the pandemic has changed kind of On a longer term view in terms of the services you're selling?
Yes. Daniel, we have seen a lot of Discussions on near shoring, less globalization of supply chains and so on. We don't see this. Yes. We see some industries building up a higher minimum stock level, which exceeds in 2 or 3 days, yes.
And we have For sure, Sien, what I said is second source, which comes out of a different geography, yes, and not relying on one geography or one even one Citi for all your key suppliers. What we for sure have seen and that will not change and that will even increase In the maybe years to come is e commerce. So our purchasing behavior has significantly changed And we all collectively, all end consumers got used to a very easy Just click and buy and get shipped process, and that will remain and that will also further increase. So The shift from retail to e commerce most likely will continue whether at that speed that we have In the last 18 months or 12 months or 15 months or at a lower speed, but it will continue.
So maybe I'll pick up on the conversion and the midterm targets. So conversion rate, I think we could try to do a bit of Expectation management here. I think it was a very strong quarter. As Detlef said, we have a good feeling about the 2nd quarter, but the uncertainty remains. So that's why I'm just trying to prevent that models are being just multiplied times 4 and then we get to a number Which might not be enriched.
Secondly, and a very quick question, what are the midterm goals? Is there an update to this? I think our strategy has extended and our goals have extended until the year 2022. And I think we will come within due course, we will come with a new set of Targets, which I think you can understand today we will not disclose, but I'm pretty sure until the end of 2021, There will be such
communication. That's helpful. Thanks, Markus.
Thank you.
The next question comes from the line of Satish Sivakumar with Citi. Please go ahead.
Yes, thank you. Thanks, gentlemen. I've got three questions. Firstly, on volume trends in C and A segment. If you could shed some light around the demand trends that you have seen across the trade Especially, say, in Trans Pacific and Asia to Europe, which has actually surprised to the upside as we went into Q1.
And then secondly, on the your comment regarding the performance of Road Logistics in North America. Actually, what are the challenges affecting this segment given the strong consumption in the U. S. Market? And third one around the lower commodity products side.
So do you expect to see some volume catch up in this segment as and when the rates normalizes? Or
Satish, Detlef speaking. Thanks for your questions. The volume trend that you have Seen for both Sea and Air Logistics, we do not expect to change significantly in the next 1 or 2 quarters. The trans specifically, transpacific and Asia exports to Europe or the high demand of imports For imports in Europe as well as in North America will continue. The Trans Pacific is Strong and with the port congestion, some of the volumes are automatically transferred to Air Logistics.
So Both the consumption drives the volume growth in both sea and airfreight. Your question regarding road logistics, I think there is a demand there and we don't have a problem with the demand. Our topic is the production costs at the moment, Congestion, truck drivers, safety of truck drivers, the market is very specific, as you know. While intermodal doesn't cope with the speed and reliability of our customers, so trucking is the solution often. And we see in the way of organizing this a challenge at the moment in specifically in the U.
S, I'm not talking Canada or Mexico, which all belong to North America to our North American region, yes? Your question to Regarding commodities and when will they be back, I think it's a clear function of rates. And there are products, if you see The beetle wood in Europe, which you have partly in Canada as well, that can We have high transport costs. And once the costs will come back, maybe to a level that we have seen pre Pandemic, those commodities might come back. I'm not too optimistic that this will happen too soon because at the moment, if you look into the market Prelibrium and market rates and how long it takes to install additional both vessels as well as containers into the market, This will not change too soon.
So most of those producers will find either other Markets that they ship to and then, as you rightly said, via train or via truck Or they have to go more local in their demand in their supplies. At the moment, we don't see commodities coming back to both sea and air logistics markets soon.
Okay. Yes. Thanks, Lesley. That's very helpful.
My pleasure.
The next question comes from the line of Neil Glynn with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon, everybody. I hope you're well and Congratulations on such a very strong quarter. Just a couple of questions. First of all, on shipper reactions To the congestion that's been ever present for quite a long time now. I'm just interested in, first of all, have you seen
a meaningful uptick in cross selling
across your portfolio through the pandemic? I Full uptick in cross selling across your portfolio through the pandemic. I know, Detlef, you mentioned pharma and healthcare touching multiple business units. But Would you describe what you're seeing as resembling any kind of a step change? Or is it more just continued evolution of your business development?
Then the second question also aimed in that direction. Given such congestion, it makes me wonder whether there are Opportunities for new products focusing on things like supply chain visibility to help shippers out. From your perspective, would you describe the pipeline of new products, new technological product development As consistent with the last few years? Or is this an opportunity, given how cash flow generative the business is, to really Go harder in that direction. And then a final question, more housekeeping.
But on the road logistics side, I noticed that in the first quarter, Expenses stepped up 12% quarter on quarter, whereas usually that's around 2% or 3% historically comparing the Q1 and the Q4. Is there something going on there in terms of extra headcount or anything funny in the comp? Or could you help me understand that big
Okay. So Neil, thanks for your questions. Let me start with shipper reaction. We have products in the market that for sure was We are much more demanded than in the past. I remember that we spoke about sea and air products in the past Or train and air or train services in the past, both picked up significantly, especially sea and air.
Going into the final mile or final country distribution via airfreight helped a lot. But I would say it's an evolutionary topic because at the end of the day, it's always about cost per unit and also CO2 Per unit that our shippers look at, but if you have a congested market or if you see that congestion will not be resolved too soon, You have to react, yes? Our sea and air volume has grown, but we will not disclose The baseline, but by Factor 10 in the Q1. That is clearly a reflection of the market situation, yes? The congestion and supply chain visibility for sure is a topic and we feel well positioned to serve our customers.
We have updated our CXploro platform, and we mentioned CXploro a couple of times in the past. And We have updated that platform with an alert function, so to say. If for U. S. Shipment something potentially is going to happen, You will get an alert function.
And we have tested this already when we went into the Suez Canal situation by chance. I mean, we didn't have the Suez Canal, obviously, to test That module of our Sea Explorer. But it works well. And we have highest visibility. We know exactly where each and every shipment, Each and every container, including the associated goods or article numbers in the containers are positioned right now as we speak.
But your question is right. We have accelerated 5 digital projects earlier this year, by the way, end of last year, Which we will deploy by end of this. We are moving fast into deploying 5 platforms or solutions, Which includes also the next generation, if you want, for visibility. And that is what we are really that we really focus on. At the same time, we see a high degree of registration On our platforms, even more than at the beginning of the pandemic, maybe everybody was still in a shock situation.
And we have the highest growth rate ever on onboarding of new accounts to our MyCarend platform, which is You know the entry point to all our operating system for our customers. Your road logistics question, And I think I mentioned that already when we gave the annual result 2020 during the annual result 2020 conference. Road logistics is impacted by lower shipment size. So while the volume as such maybe remains stable, the And thus the average GP per volume is lower, a result of e commerce and our way of ordering and Maybe different stock level keeping. And we see higher production cost per shipment in Road Logistics.
I hope that answers your question.
Thanks, Natlef. It was actually the expense line below gross profit. I can follow-up with Chris or Marcus offline anyway.
I do have it for you. So the road logistics expenses, I think, yes, they are below the GP line. This is ours. So there is 2 factors or 3 factors. Obviously, in road logistics, we have a good part euro denominated costs.
So the euro appreciated around 2%. That is a factor. The second factor is smaller than this, but still noticeable in the Q1 at the back end Q1 in March 2020, there was basically a lot of volumes stopping Very abruptly. And we had already at that point in time a few subsidies going into the P and L for around half a month. And last but not least, we have increased indeed our FTE for the Brexit services that we have That we have built.
So that's a slight increase in FTEs overall, but these three components pretty much make That percentage.
Great. Thank you both. You're welcome. You're welcome.
The next question comes from the line of Muneeba Kiani with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Good afternoon. Could you talk a little bit about Apex maybe? There wasn't much mention of that in the release today. Any of how growth at Apex has been this year so far, given what you've seen with your kind of Main Air Business. And then secondly, how should we be thinking about dividends for 2021 if earnings are Should we still continue to think about it in payout ratio terms or on Absolute levels, I realize you don't have a dividend policy, but just kind of if you could give us steer on how to think about dividends In a very potentially very strong year.
And then could you give an indication on where you think Yields and EBIT per unit would normalize to in Air and Sea, please? Thank you.
Hi, Muneeb. It's Markus. Let me pick up the first one on APACs. You know that we are continuing to stay within the signing and closing period. So my indications are going to be pure indications, Nothing better than that.
The Apex activities are very much around the transpacific trade lanes. And Trans Pacific trade lanes generally in the Q1 have done pretty well. I would Believe that, that is also true then for a business that is predominantly operating in this trade line. 2nd question on the dividends. I think dividends, we have been Very clear and vocal around why the dividend level is at that level where we are.
We are proposing this year a 68% payout ratio towards we are proposing it towards the general assembly. That translates into CHF 4.50. And I think as it stands today, I cannot identify By any reason why this unwritten policy admittedly should change in the near future. I think we have had a very good quarter. But having a very good quarter, as you know, I think a little bit steep History with Kuehne and Nagel having a good quarter doesn't need necessarily we're going to rewrite the dividend policy.
So I would stay on that course. I would believe that the company is going to stay on the course that have been put in place. Yields, that's really the $1,000,000 question. What is the Sustainable yield level going forward, I think it's very clear. We do have elevated Gross profit levels right now, they are justified.
We do a lot more, As Detlef said, on service intensity than we did maybe 2 years ago, There is hardly any shipment that you would consider as a standard routine, Joel. So Very challenges that we try to resolve for our customers. It starts with getting the space And ends up with actually managing the changes in the supply chain. So there's a lot of that being done. I think that it has been very clear also.
There might not be a lot of change to that situation in the foreseeable future. Quite some uncertainty going at the back end of 2021. And how it's going to look further on a midterm basis, that's Really, really for us not to see right now. So I would be cautiously Optimistic for 2021 that an elevated level will stay at least for the next quarter And maybe some small pressure on the margins at in the second half of this year. But further than that, I think it's going to be very difficult to forecast.
Thank you.
Thanks, Anita.
The next question comes from the line of Christian Obst with Baader Bank. Please go ahead.
Yes, thank you and all the best in Switzerland. First, On the targets 2021, is it right that the closing of the Apex deal is some kind of a precondition before you
Will you
go out with some further long term or mid term guidance? This is the first question. The second one is on Road Logistics And your implementation of your KNX works there, saying You implement that in Asia, then you're going to Russia, you're going to Australia. What are the plans going forward? And what is the current share Would you manage all these platforms according to the total share of Road?
And Then and the last question is concerning CO2 free transport. You have some kind of interesting activities there Is there in place? Can you give us an update on demand there? And is there a higher pricing tag for that? Thank you.
Thanks, Christian. Detlef speaking. Let me answer your questions. You are on the spot. We will comment on Apex Once the closing has happened, we have a look into the current trading and can then also review our overall Target setting for the years to come.
And therefore, we said Marco said before, clearly, by end of this year, early next Yes, we will have this revision done and then we'll share the new set maybe of targets that we are all committed to. But at the moment, yes, at the moment, it's not possible because we cannot even talk to the Apex. Road Logistics, I assume, Christian, you're talking about e truck now, our digital platform
for Road?
Yes, sorry.
Yes. We have a clear rollout plan where we see in markets where we have either no road logistics business Or no clear brokerage business where this platform, this purely digital platform gets a lot of attraction. We have a rollout plan that is geared to the number of bookings that we want to generate via this platform. And So far, we feel very comfortable that our extremely tough targets will be met because it's a bit of a blockbuster. But Please forgive me.
We do not give any details on the number of bookings or shipments, but it will eventually, in a couple of years, be a Significant element of our road logistics service offering to the market. And CO2, Christian, I don't know how much time you have, but This is one of our core topics for our strategy, yes, because we believe that, first of all, the transport logistics industry and we as one of The bigger players in the market have not only a responsibility, but we also have a chance to offer solutions that matter for our customers and thus change the CO2 emission of transports. And we have a suite of activities running more than 300 activities only internally in our organization, And we see a lot of buy in of our customers. Usually, we do not or cannot reveal names. It's a bit like pharma customers.
Out of 300 pharma OEMs, we can mention 1 or 2 sometimes, but not in general. That's the same as our CO2. We have A couple of activities running. One is identify. 1st of all, have transparency on the CO2 emission per shipment.
That is not sounds easy and standard, but it's not. And you have to have a lot of details of your systems and What you transport in order to do a proper assessment. Secondly, avoid by Changing supply chain by optimizing supply chain, by consolidation, shifting from one mode to the other, whatever it is, by avoiding ports, Certain ports, airports, certain airports and so on. Thirdly, it's reduce. So whatever you are doing and can't change and avoid, Try to optimize it, use alternative fuel.
SAF, we have introduced. Biodiesel, we have introduced. Biofuel, we have introduced. And we offer this on the same routing to our customers. And then the last one is compensate, which is a conclusion of The three effects before, if you can't fully offset by just reducing The CO2 emission.
We are dedicated to it. We have tools for it. We have tools and platforms that show this during the booking process Even to our customers and we all have a choice. Our customers have a choice. We have a choice.
And each and every consumer has a choice. And We believe that this will be increasing. The demand for these transports will be increasing. Now Christian, I stop because otherwise, You get a bit of a lecture of Kuehne Nagel's environmental and sustainability strategy, which is for sure not the purpose of this call.
That's okay. But I have 2 additional questions to these items. Can you give us an idea of how profitability differs Between E Truck Now on a pure E Truck Now and on a standard road logistics business? And the second one is CO2. Do you see that there is any change in demand pattern towards these kind of products?
Or is that minimal so far at least?
So change in demand pattern, I think it's increasing. While we were we continued with our strategy, also our sustainability strategy through last year, even throughout the pandemic. We worked on a lot of initiatives and continue to work on them. And we see more and more demand Coming especially from those industries that direct to the end consumer. And there is a change.
There is at least a change in consciousness. And whether that then will eventually change the demand, we will see. But we believe it is. And we are, as a first mover, very close to those customers. Secondly, your question regarding profitability.
Yes, we know, Chris, but we do not share Those details, yes, we will not share those details. It's a different solution, which requires Which is a more automated approach, systems driven approach, which obviously has less Logistics expert doing in the process or require less logistics expert doing in the process. If the shipper, our customer stays in the standards of that platform, whenever there is demand To talk to a logistics expert from our organization, it's a different animal, And I think it's working quite well that in a very low touch environment, automated platform environment, We see a lot of automated bookings and matches of supply demand.
Okay. Thank you very much and all the best.
Thanks, Christian.
The next question comes from the line of Alexia Dagani with Barclays. Please go ahead.
My questions, I also had 3. Just firstly on the conversion ratio for the group, obviously, at 21.3%. I think in your commentary, you mentioned that there have been some portfolio mix changes benefiting the ratio. Could you kind of Single them out a little bit to understand how much of that $21,300,000 could be more structural rather than benefiting from current capacity disruptions. And then secondly, on just sea freight, Clearly, the market remains very tight given kind of the disruption we've seen and also the Suez Canal adding to that.
Your CHF 50 to CHF 60 per TEU that you talked about being an abnormal level at the moment. What needs to happen For that to kind of fall away, and do you see movement on that front? Or is it still very kind of Elevated the levels of disruption. And then finally, just on Air Cargo, Would you be willing to comment that kind of the March growth rate? Because my understanding is that March saw quite a Steep acceleration in volume.
And in terms of your capacity outlook, you talk about kind of stability and We wouldn't expect sort of the belly capacity return, but do you feel that the dedicated freighters Would potentially be able to replace the belly capacity lost medium term? Thank you.
Hi, Alex, it's Markus. So I'll take the first question on the conversion rate for the group and the Methodology around it, we have been always emphasizing that our target also up to 16% Was assuming a stable mix in business units because you're entirely right. When Business units with naturally high conversion rates grow faster than the conversion rate goes up and mathematically the other way around as well. So whatever the reported 'twenty one and now are in terms of composition, My understanding and also my calculation are showing that we have been nearly neutral In terms of the mix effect of the business units for that 21% conversion rate. And what I said previously was, As I mentioned, more of a precautionary statement that we are not looking into Just an extension or a replication of the numbers on a 4 quarter basis as we have seen on the Q1 basis.
But again, we will come back to you in until the year end 2021 With most likely a little bit more detailed set of targets than what we have done in the past in terms of conversion rates.
Alex, let me answer then the other two questions. Sea Logistics, any movements? I mean, the Trans Pacific is the This market at the moment, we are able to find capacity in the market. We grew more than 30%, I mentioned that, And we don't see any sign of change at the moment. As mentioned, the consumption pattern is changing.
This requires Other assortments, other consumption or products we consumed in the westerly markets, And this will drive the demand for Sea Logistics capacity on the Trans Pacific, but also towards Asia, towards Europe. Air, your air question is a different one. I mean, We have seen a increase in freighter capacity and demand for freighters or main deck, as we call this, During the pandemic because belly is not existent. But the capacity in the market will never be able to fully compensate the miss or the lack of belly capacity and it requires a return on passenger flights eventually To have a similar market offering as we had pre pandemic in the market. The next 1 or 2 quarters will be strong, and we mentioned that, and that will not change.
But eventually, we will see Trees in battery capacity, I'm talking intercontinental plants. There's only one market that we know has a constant Supply of battery capacity at the moment, that is domestic China. The only market where you have more or less, I wouldn't say a normal situation, but a regular sort of belly capacity again, yes? With regards to March Increases that you mentioned before, March is always a very strong month. I mean, it's a typical March pattern.
It's nothing Specific to this March versus the previous year's March.
All right, understood. Thank you very much.
Thank you. Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Sam Bland with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks. I've got two questions, please. The first one is on, we've heard a lot about how Hi. Service intensity is helping the unit margins. Just wonder what that's doing to your rollout of the eTouch platform.
I guess eTouch is Sort of the opposite in that it relies on automating a lot of things. How's the rollout going given this high service intensity? And the other one was on, you talked about kind of lack of commodity volume helping the sea freight unit margin. As those Commodity type volumes come back, should we think about that as a net positive because you've got higher volume or actually it's more Negative because it kind of implies that freight rates and therefore unit margins will be lower at that point in the future.
Yes. Let me answer your questions. 1st of all, service intensity, you're right. I mean, eTouch is a fully the ideal eTouch shipment is fully automated with a conversion rate exceeding 80%, 90%. In theory, it's 100% conversion rate because the incremental shipment doesn't attract any additional costs.
But at the moment, we are in deployment of eTouch. So some of the processes are fully automated, but not the total shipment flow as such. Therefore, we benefit from eTouch, and we have given some details on how we have progressed in eTouch, especially in air freight, air logistics during our last call. But we have no end to end eTouch shipment that would be jeopardized by the current market situation. We do not see any changes in that respect for the next couple of quarters.
With regards to lack of commodity in the mix, You're right. The commodity will come back eventually if the rates normalize. We do not expect this in the next couple of quarters, But they will have a contribution. They will have a positive EBIT effect. And that is what we always said when we said if you compare our mix The mix of other suppliers, we had always some areas where we had a high degree of commodity shipments, But contributing on a positive EBIT.
And the mix effect is, at the end of the day, Helping us at the moment in the unit figures, but it will help us also to go back to a normalized EBIT per TOEI Figure in, I don't know, whatever quarters to come.
Okay. Thank you.
You're welcome.
Today's last question comes from the line of Mr. Michael Firth with Vontobel. Please go ahead, sir.
Yes, thank you. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Just two questions from my side is, can you comment on vaccine logistics trends and anything related To the pandemic and any changes you observed, let's say, over the last 3 months and how that would affect your business And your expectations. And the second question is, you talked about market share gains in e commerce. And I was just wondering If you can share any indications of sort of what sort of market growth in e commerce you've seen and how your growth compares to that.
Thank you.
Right. Maxine Logistics. The Q1 this year, 2021, we have shipped 50,000,000 Vials vaccine, COVID-nineteen vials worldwide. And we see This demand increasing significantly for the Q2. So factor 5, 6, 7, we will see Based on the production outcome output, nothing else.
But it's a typical shipment, which we have Done before, we were in vaccine shipments also previous years. Our pharma and health care sector has been active in this sector. The big difference is that the world requires billions of those vaccines at the moment and that this needs to be Especially from a production point of view. At the moment, we don't see any major constraints or Any bottleneck or any restrictions other than production output. The second question regards Market share gains in e commerce.
We, for sure, showed All have seen a growth in e commerce fulfillment, especially in contract logistics of 25%, 30%. While we assume the market has Grown slightly below that figure, maybe 15% to 20%, because the biggest growth was seen in e commerce fulfillment In the Q2 last year. Therefore, we said we have gained market share, but it's one of the growth drivers Still in our e commerce fulfillment business in our contract logistics business.
Thank you. Very helpful. Thanks and welcome.
Thank you.
We have a last question coming from the line of Andy Chu with DB. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good afternoon. Just one question for me, please. In terms of the GP per unit per toy, what's actually changed? Because I guess over the last 12 months, it's been relatively stable within a few Swiss francs.
We know that freight rates are Sort of are at record highs. We know there's a shortage of capacity. We know there's a shift away from commodities And that you're focusing on sort of high value add. So what's actually happened in this quarter, let's say, versus, say, Q4 that Your GP per toy has jumped into sort of CHF400 per TEU. Is it something in the organization?
You're better at selling? What's actually changed? Because I'm sort of struggling to sort of as the market probably is in terms of trying to forecast that number For Q1 and obviously going forward. Thank you.
Andy, two effects that we try to explain. One effect is increasing demand versus Very scarce supply side, both equipment as well as vessel capacity. So there is a bottleneck and we are able to find that space and containers for our customers. And secondly, that's the mix effect. So The per toy gross profit of a paper and pipe shipment, a forestry shipment, is significantly lower with a positive EBIT contribution, but significantly lower than our average of CHF 300 plus per toy.
If this volume is totally excluded in the quarter because we don't ship it anymore, Customers cannot afford this price level in the market at the moment. Their goods, this is the This directly ends in the overall higher GP per toy. So the mix effect for sure has a significant impact On the CHF440 per toy that we have shown in quarter 1 this year.
But forgive me, isn't that been the case for a number of quarters now? Obviously, you said, obviously, that the commodities that come back, they need to fall to sort of pre COVID levels, but Rates are obviously up 4 or 5 times what they have been. So I'm still struggling, but you're saying that this is The quarter where a lot of that mix effects in commodities really made a big difference because I would have thought that trend has continued that we've talked about over the last 12 months has been a mix positive mix impact, yes?
No, it's not for the last 12 months. We have been more Rigid to accept also cargo while we had scarce capacity to fill and our High yielding and high long lasting customers to serve, we were forced to be much more selective. While in the past and if you look back even the last quarter 2020 has shown already this effect, we had an increase in yield Ready there. But market rates and the rates per container on certain trade lanes exceeding The price levels that we have never seen before really happened since the beginning of this year. So this effect is really isolated or can be isolated to this year, quarter 1.
So it's both. It's the mix effect, which got even actively more actively managed by ourselves quarter 1 This year as well as a supply side, a capacity side, which is extremely
So, for example, how much was commodities of your volume wise then in Q4? I think you were sort of alluding to that
We usually do not disclose those details, and We will not go down that. It was more significant. At the moment, it's mediocre.
Okay, great. Thank you very much.
You're welcome, Andy.
That was the last question for today. Gentlemen, back to you for any closing remarks.
Thanks, ladies and gentlemen, for joining our Analyst's call on the quarter one results for 2021 of Kuehne and Nagel International AG. As we have stated, Kuehne and Nagel marks a strong start to 2021, and 2021 remains challenging and unpredictable. And we are committed to our proven strategy of providing reliable high quality services to our customers, And it's all about our logistics experts, our technology, our platforms as well as our agility. And having said so, we thank you for joining, And we look forward to talking to you again in about 3 months when we talk about the semi annual results. Thanks.
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