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Earnings Call: Q1 2025

May 14, 2025

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Ma'aden earnings call for first quarter of 2025. Thank you for joining us. My name is Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien. All participants in today's call will be in a listening mode only. On today's call, all the presentation and relevant material will be available in our website and Ma'aden app. Please refer to our disclosure in slide two that includes all the disclaimers made in this presentation. Note that all further disclosure during the presentation is in SAR, unless otherwise stated. I'm joined today by Ma'aden CEO Bob Wilt and Ma'aden CFO Louis Irvine. They will take us through the company's performance for the first quarter. As usual, we'll open the floor for questions at the end of the presentation. However, the chat function is open, so please feel free to post your question during the call.

We hope to go through as much as possible today. However, if you have any follow-up questions, please email us. With that,

Bob Wilt
CEO, Ma'aden

Thank you, Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien, and thank you to everyone for joining today's call. As you can see, we started the year strong, building on the momentum of 2024. We continued with our operational excellence program across all businesses with production results, safety improvements, exploration success, and project advancement. We delivered 16% growth for both revenue and EBITDA year-on-year. On the back of this, our net profit increased 58% year-on-year, and we generated almost SAR 2 billion in operating cash flow. With a cash position exceeding SAR 12 billion, we're in a strong position to fund our growth ambitions. In the first quarter, we achieved solid operational production growth in Phosphate and Aluminum. This was further supported by strong commodity prices.

Safety remains a priority, and we recorded an All-Injury Frequency Rate of 0.02 and a Serious Injury Frequency of just 0.01. Looking at growth, our Phosphate 3 phase I project is well underway and is making excellent progress. We finalized the acquisition of our strategic stake in Alba, strengthening our presence in the global aluminum industry. On the exploration front, we signed a heads of terms with Aramco to form a potential joint venture focused on exploration and mining of critical minerals in the Arabian Platform. additionally, our exploration efforts continue to deliver results with new gold and copper discoveries at Wadi Al Jaww, Jabal Shayban, and the Mansourah-Massarah deep zones. We reposition our core business units for long-term growth.

Starting with Phosphate, we strengthened our position in the sector by acquiring Mosaic's 25% stake in Wa'ad Al Shamal Phosphate Company, increasing our ownership to 85%. This strengthens our position as a global phosphate leader by consolidating control over one of the world's largest integrated facilities. It also gives us greater operational control and earnings upside. On Phosphate 3, construction is well underway with a project completion rate of 35%. In Aluminum, our recent deal with Alba positions Ma'aden as a strategic shareholder in a key regional aluminum player, strengthening our market presence. Meanwhile, we are progressing the deal to acquire Alcoa's stake in our upstream aluminum businesses. The deal is expected to close before mid-year, giving us full autonomy to drive value.

We are also seeing continued success in our exploration program with promising new discoveries at numerous sites and expect these to add to our gold and copper production in the coming years. Looking ahead, our JV with Aramco is set to explore critical minerals, reinforcing our commitment to accelerating Saudi's mining and industrial development. Together, all these steps signal a strong commitment to our growth. As mentioned, our Phosphate 3 project is making good progress. Phase I is moving rapidly, now standing at 35% complete. We've awarded over SAR 9 billion in contracts. Engineering is nearly complete, and procurement is well ahead of schedule. Site preparation and access roads are done with more than 30% of civil foundations in place. Delivery of proprietary equipment has been completed and structural steel installation has reached 6%.

Phase I will, when complete, add 1.5 million tons of annual capacity starting in 2027. Phosphate 3 is a long-term investment that strengthens our market leadership and reinforces our role in the agricultural supply chains worldwide. Once fully online, the project will make Ma'aden the third-largest phosphate producer globally and the second-largest exporter in the world. With that, I'll pass it over to Louis for the financials.

Louis Irvine
CFO, Ma'aden

Thank you, Bob, and good afternoon, everyone. We continue to build on our strong 2024 performance and delivered strong results during the first quarter of 2025. Year on year, revenue increased by 16%, reaching SAR 8.5 billion on the back of higher volumes sold, supported by increased prices. EBITDA demonstrated similar growth to SAR 3.5 billion as we balanced our costs effectively and maintained our margin. Our net profit level saw an increase of 58%, reflecting higher EBITDA and lower Zakat, income tax, and severance expenses. Our increased stake in Wa'ad Al Shamal contributed SAR 108 million to attributable net profit during the quarter. Further, since we closed the Alba deal during the quarter, we've reported our initial portion of Alba's earnings in our results as well. Turning to the EBITDA bridge for the first quarter.

As mentioned previously, we achieved strong EBITDA growth, primarily driven by higher sales volumes in Phosphate and Aluminum and improved prices across all our business units. Our increased volumes and prices were able to offset the impact of higher raw material prices and volume-related operating costs. Further, we were able to offset the SAR 199 million one-off insurance payment we received in the prior year quarter and still demonstrate 16% growth year-on-year. Our investments contributed SAR 48 million, including the attributable income from the Alba acquisition, as I mentioned earlier. Moving to our cash flow for the quarter. We generated strong operating cash flows of almost SAR 2 billion following strong underlying business performance despite a draw of SAR 1.2 billion related to working capital.

Our largest cash outflows were linked to strategic growth initiatives, including the SAR 3.6 billion investment in acquiring 20% of Alba, in addition to SAR 1.4 billion for growth and non-growth CapEx. Most of our growth capital expenditure was focused on progressing Phosphate 3 phase I. On the financing side, we raised $1.25 billion, or around SAR 4.7 billion, to our first international sukuk while paying off the SAR 3.5 billion MPC sukuk which matured during the quarter. Just to recap on our inaugural international sukuk, the offering was a major success and was oversubscribed more than 9 x, making it one of the most successful debut international sukuk offerings in Saudi Arabia. As Bob mentioned earlier, we ended the period with a healthy cash position of SAR 12.4 billion.

As we push forward with our growth strategy, we are ensuring our financial position remains strong and provides a strong foundation. Given our investment in Alba, which impacted our cash position, our net debt increased by 19%. Further, as I mentioned earlier, we repaid the MPC Sukuk while issuing our first international sukuk, which slightly increased gross debt levels. As a result of our investments and debt repositioning, our net debt to EBITDA increased slightly to 1.9 x, in line with our expectations, and remains below our target range of 2x-3 x. While our growth initiatives, including potential future investments, may impact leverage in the short term, we are committed to ensuring that our balance sheet remains robust and capable of supporting our growth plans throughout the cycle. Turning our attention to the Phosphate BU.

In the first quarter, we reported strong DAP production and sales volumes up 9% and 18% respectively year-on-year. This was accompanied by higher prices. Average realized DAP prices were up 4% year-on-year, as low global inventory levels were met with increased demand from major agricultural economies. Ammonia production was higher by 7% as our operations performed well. In ammonia sales, we saw an increase of 13% over the period too. As a result, Phosphate revenue increased by 5%, with EBITDA margins remaining stable at a healthy 48%.

Coming off a record production quarter in the fourth quarter of last year, we saw revenue decline 19% quarter-over-quarter as we saw a 6% decrease in DAP production due to scheduled plant maintenance during the first quarter, while sales volumes were further impacted by a DAP shipment which we've deferred into the second quarter. Further, we saw prices decline across the phosphate product range, which also impacted our revenues. Despite the revenue impact, EBITDA margin increased by 6 percentage points quarter-over-quarter. Turning to the Phosphate EBITDA bridge. Year-over-year, higher DAP and ammonia production positively impacted EBITDA by SAR 133 million. Overall, raw material costs were higher, mainly due to higher molten sulfur and natural gas prices. Higher DAP and ammonia production volumes had the largest positive impact on EBITDA. Production costs were higher year-over-year, given higher production volumes.

Quarter-on-quarter, EBITDA declined 7% to SAR 2.3 billion. The sequential drop was driven by lower production volumes, softer DAP and ammonia prices, and higher raw material costs. As reported at the year-end, quarter four also carried high maintenance spending and a one-off ECL charge of about SAR 80 million, which helped offset the impact in the first quarter. Turning our attention to the Aluminum business unit. In the first quarter, we delivered strong operational execution across the business unit. Year-on-year, primary Aluminum output increased 1% as we maintained near nameplate rates. Alumina production rose 9%, while FRP production increased 48%. This was accompanied by strong price increases. Average realized prices increased 25% for primary aluminum and 50% for alumina, reflecting supply disruption in the alumina sector towards the middle and the end of last year.

On the sales side, FRP volumes grew 26%, supported by increased demand in both can body and autobody sheets. On the other hand, primary aluminum and alumina slab sales were slightly lower year-on-year. The business unit's revenue rose 29% year-on-year to SAR 2.7 billion, and the EBITDA margin expanded to 30%, up t2 percentage points. Looking at the quarter-on-quarter performance, revenue declined 9%, mainly due to alumina sales normalizing after a strong sales quarter at the end of last year, followed by lower aluminum and FRP sales in line with production. Turning to the breakdown of this period's EBITDA. Year-on-year price increases across all products drove a net positive impact of SAR 502 million, while FRP production offset aluminum production declines, while alumina was flat year-on-year, driving a net positive impact of SAR 116 million.

This quarter, we reported incremental earnings from our newly acquired 20% stake in Alba, which closed during the first quarter. Notably, we received a SAR 199 million insurance claim benefit last year, which impacts our year-over-year performance. Quarter-over-quarter, EBITDA increased by 4% to SAR 815 million, despite the decline in revenue I mentioned earlier. Primary aluminum offset alumina price declines and raw material price increases. We also saw lower production-related costs in line with lower production. Additionally, quarter-over-quarter, EBITDA benefited from the initial contribution from our recently closed 20% stake in Alba. Moving to our Base Metals & New Minerals business unit. The business unit reported strong growth year-over-year, with revenue increasing by 19%, supported by record gold prices offsetting volume declines.

Volume declines due to planned maintenance at Mansourah-Massarah and slightly lower grades during the first quarter. EBITDA margin expanded by 11 percentage points to 68%, supported by higher prices. Gold prices continued to show strength, with average realized prices up 37% year-on-year to a record $2,858 /oz. Quarter-on-quarter revenue declined by 18%, again due to planned maintenance impacting production at Mansourah-Massarah. Moving on to the EBITDA bridge of the business unit. Higher gold prices were partially offset by lower volumes. The net impact resulted in EBITDA growing 43% to SAR 807 million year-on-year. On a quarterly basis, EBITDA declined 15% as volume declines offset price gains. I'll now hand back to Bob to take us through the outlook and conclude the presentation.

Bob Wilt
CEO, Ma'aden

Thank you, Louis. I'd like to first take a moment to go over Ma'aden's position amid tariff-related uncertainty. As you know, the situation remains dynamic. However, based on what we know today, Ma'aden holds a relatively strong position. Saudi Arabia faces the minimum 10% tariff, which is the lowest tariff rate implemented. On top of that, Ma'aden's products are critical to the global economy, and we hold a gold portfolio that provides a natural hedge during economic uncertainty. Our products are supplied to a geographically diverse customer base. In addition, we've seen strong growth in local and regional demand. About 90% of our sales come from markets outside the U.S., and only 10% of our total revenue is from the U.S., 8% from Phosphate and 2% from Aluminum.

We also maintain a highly competitive cost structure with reliable production, which gives us additional flexibility. These facts make Ma'aden the preferred global trading partner. We will certainly continue to monitor the situation closely, and we'll leverage our global network of clients to reroute trade if necessary. Let's take a look at some of the key drivers behind market fundamentals during Q1 and the remainder of 2025. Starting with Phosphate. Prices have held firm in Q1 and are expected to remain strong. Low opening inventories in key agricultural regions continue to support demand, along with continued export restrictions from China. On ammonia, while supply has stabilized after prior global disruptions, the market has turned to surplus supply in a seasonally low demand quarter.

Demand is expected to return gradually, supported by phosphate fertilizer production potentially ramping up. On Aluminum, the fundamentals remain supported in 2025 despite trade uncertainties. Aluminum remains driven by supply constraints, along with a potential ban for Russian aluminum in Europe, while long-term demand fundamentals remain strong. However, shifting trade flows, given U.S. tariffs may impact market dynamics. Alumina has seen prices ease as supply ramps up given increased bauxite availability. Finally, gold prices have continued their excellent run, reaching new highs. We expect gold prices to remain strong in 2025. Let's take a look at our strong organic pipeline across all of our business units. Progress on Phosphate 3 continues, as we discussed earlier. We also have plans for phase II of the project that will add another 1.5 million tons of annual capacity.

We are progressing our Aluminum strategy as we advance Ma'aden's role as a key global aluminum producer. Our aluminum recycling projects and smelter expansions are currently in bankable feasibility stages that are aimed at increasing our production capacity. We are also progressing with Ar Rjum Gold Mine, also in bankable feasibility stage. Early intercepts from our latest drilling results at Mansourah-Massarah showed promising results below the open pit, reinforcing the underground expansion at the site. With a strong start to the year and remain firmly on track to achieve our 2025 guidance. We initially announced our CapEx for 2025 to be between SAR 8.6 billion and SAR 10.6 billion.

However, given our discipline and focus on capital allocation, we're reducing our 2025 CapEx guidance by SAR 1 billion to a range of SAR 7.6 billion-SAR 9.6 billion, with 70%-75% allocated to growth. This was primarily due to streamlining and reprioritizing our asset development timelines, and we'll continue to provide updates in upcoming quarters. We increased the lower end of our gold production guidance by 25,000 oz- 475,000 oz. All business units delivered strong performance in the first quarter, underpinned by operational excellence. We completed the strategic acquisition of our 20% stake at Alba. Our large-scale exploration program continues to yield promising new discoveries, and progress on our projects is continuing.

Looking ahead, our near-term priorities this quarter are to finalize the Alcoa transaction by the end of the quarter, to maintain momentum on construction works at Phosphate 3 phase I, to further assess the promising discoveries of Wadi Al Jaww and Jabal Shayban . Building on our recent exploration successes, we will continue to focus our exploration efforts on Mansourah-Massarah across the Central Arabian Gold Region and advance discussions on our strategic JV with Aramco, which represents significant opportunities for future value creation. We are driving Ma'aden forward with disciplined execution and clear priorities to position us for sustained growth. With that, I'll pass it off to Abdul Aziz to kick off the Q&A session.

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Louis, for the presentation. Now the floor is open for questions. Please raise your hand if you would like to ask any questions. I'll unmute you, and you can ask your question. Anup, I see that you have a question. Let me unmute you. Anup, you are unmuted. Please go ahead. Mute yourself and ask your question. Anup, unmute yourself and ask your question, please. Okay, moving to Anna. Anna, please ask your question. You are unmuted. Unmute yourself and ask, please.

Speaker 4

Yes. Good afternoon. Can you hear me well?

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Yeah, we can.

Bob Wilt
CEO, Ma'aden

Yeah. Great.

Speaker 4

Yes. Apologies. There is some technical difficulty on the line. Good afternoon. Thank you for the presentation. One question from our side on CapEx. You mentioned that you reduced the guidance for this year after streamlining and prioritizing projects. Could you maybe talk about which exactly were the projects that were kind of reprioritized, maybe by segment or by project? Any details would be appreciated. Thank you.

Bob Wilt
CEO, Ma'aden

Yeah. Thanks for your question. Yeah. I think we've got three projects that are in bankable feasibility, Ar Rjum Gold Mine, our recycling projects, and our Line 1 and 2 expansions in Aluminum. All three of them, as we are getting into the feasibility studies, we're value engineering them and sequencing them appropriately to maintain a proper capital discipline approach to sequencing and timing. Those are three projects that we've spent time value engineering and resequencing. Final completion dates shouldn't change, but it's just a matter of spend in the early phases.

Speaker 4

All right. Thank you for the comments. Any change in the timelines for those, or it's just a matter of kind of reshuffling them or for this year?

Bob Wilt
CEO, Ma'aden

No, it's just a matter of spend this year.

Speaker 4

All clear. Thank you.

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Thank you, Anna. Anup, I'll give you another chance. Please unmute yourself and ask your real question.

Speaker 6

Yeah. Good afternoon. Can you hear me now?

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Yes, we can. Go ahead.

Speaker 6

Yeah. Thanks for taking my questions. I have two. The first is on Ad Duwayhi. Your annual report, 2024, AR mentions that the production was 110,000 oz. Could you please update us on what is the production run rate currently? I believe there are some stripping activities going on at the mine. Once that is complete, where do you see the production run rate going?

Louis Irvine
CFO, Ma'aden

Anup, good afternoon. You may recall that there's a pushback, quite a large pushback underway, an 18-24-month pushback. That will continue through the course of this year, and then we hope for it to be back up to full run rate by the end of the year. I think what we have previously guided is that between Ad Duwayhi and Mansourah-Massarah, we'd be looking to produce between 400,000 oz and 450,000 oz . That's how you should look at those two mines.

Speaker 6

Yeah, that was very helpful. Just the second one is on the Aramco JV, the critical metals JV. Just trying to understand what value does Aramco bring to this joint venture? I mean, their exploration is in a completely different commodity compared to yours. If you could give us some, you know, some color on what value they bring to the joint venture.

Bob Wilt
CEO, Ma'aden

Yeah, absolutely. The concept is we've up to this point spent most of our exploration activities on the Arabian Shield in the west. Arabian Platform is where Aramco has over 80 years of exploration data related to oil and gas. They've got vast warehouses of core samples, data, et cetera, and an intimate knowledge of Arabian Platform, where we think there's huge potential that we have yet to begin exploration on. Coupling our expertise in hard rock mining and exploration with their vast domain experience in Arabian Platform and their historic data, we think it's a powerful combination to accelerate exploration and development of critical minerals in the platform.

Speaker 6

Yeah. Thank you very much.

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Nathan, I see that you have a question. You are unmuted. Please unmute yourself and ask your question. Nathan.

Speaker 7

Yeah. Yeah. There we go.

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Yeah, go ahead. I think you're mute. You are muted, yeah. Unmute yourself, please.

Speaker 7

Yeah. Is it audible now?

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 7

Thank you. Apologies I joined a bit late, if it's a repeat question or you have already discussed this. If you can share some insights on DAP as a commodity. You know, DAP prices have done well year to date. You know, saw DAP prices were more than $650 per ton. What is driving this? Is there any supply demand tightness, or is it seasonal, or there is a big tender from, you know, an importing country, or is it driven by some tariffs? You know, what is driving the DAP demand?

Bob Wilt
CEO, Ma'aden

Yes.

Speaker 7

the strong prices?

Bob Wilt
CEO, Ma'aden

I think as we said, the heavy agriculture producers started the year with low inventories. The demand from every region for demand this year, this early part of the year where they started with low inventories, couple that with the continued ban or the lack of exports coming from China. The market has been undersupplied, and we expect that to continue through the first half of the year.

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Thank you, Bob. I see another question from Yusef. Yusef, you are unmuted. Please unmute yourself and ask your question.

Speaker 5

Hi. Can you guys hear me?

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Yes, go ahead please.

Speaker 5

Yeah. First off, thank you so much for the call, and then congratulations on a very, very strong set of numbers. I was just wondering, kind of looking at your cost per unit across sort of all three divisions, actually. You know, you guys seem to have been very, very lean in terms of cost this quarter. At least sequentially it seemed across the board everything was lower on a per unit basis, despite the fact that, as you mentioned, sulfur was higher. Of course, we've had, you know, higher gas prices in KSA since the start of the year. Just wondering how sustainable you view this and, you know, is there some lag effect in terms of the sulfur pricing and the gas pricing that we might see in the second quarter? Thank you so much.

Bob Wilt
CEO, Ma'aden

I'll speak at the high level. Louis, you can get into any details you might want to, but when we started the transformation effort three years ago, some of our biggest efforts were on the core business performance, improving volumes and reducing costs of the three business units. The organization galvanized around the transformation and identified over SAR 6 billion worth of opportunities. Some of that was in production improvement, some of it was in efficiency, some of it was cost takeout. The organization had about SAR 6 billion of opportunities. In that three-year period, we've realized about half of that. We've seen about SAR 3 billion come through to the financials, whether in volume cost or some of it in working capital improvements as well.

We still think we have a ways to go to realize the opportunity and the potential that the organization has identified. I think it's very sustainable. In that period, you know, we've used some of that upside to offset increased natural gas, diesel prices, software increases, and things like that. We've adopted a mentality in the company that we're a commodity company, and we need to be able to weather the downturns and weather the cost increases that we face from raw material suppliers and the organization has responded admirably to that.

Speaker 5

Very clear. Thank you so much.

Bob Wilt
CEO, Ma'aden

Anup, I see that you are raising your hand again.

Speaker 6

Yeah. Hi. Just another housekeeping question from my side. You know, an understanding of your power cost in the Aluminum business. If I understand it right, it is the cost of fuel plus the O&M and plus the capacity charge, right? I mean, you do pay a capacity charge, no? Is my understanding correct?

Louis Irvine
CFO, Ma'aden

If there's a minimum demand, that's the capacity charge that you may refer to. Apart from that, it's charged on a consumption basis. I need to try and remind myself. You know, over the past two years, what we have seen is we've been able to convert from a gross demand to a net demand basis for setting the tariffs with the utility, and that has now come down. Other than that, it's based on a utilization and consumption factor. Then obviously there's a slight depreciation charge as well, from the supplier.

Speaker 6

Basically, Ma'aden doesn't own the power asset, right? Or is it owned and managed by somebody else? How does it work? How is the arrangement here?

Louis Irvine
CFO, Ma'aden

SUEK. SUEK owns and operates the facilities. Yeah, we contract with them.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Abdul Aziz Al-Rahien
Company Representative, Ma'aden

Thank you, Anup. I don't see any more questions. With this, I'm gonna conclude today call. Thank you all for attending. All material will be uploaded in Ma'aden website and on the app. Please, if you have any follow-up questions, do not hesitate to email us on invest@maaden.com.sa. With this, I'll be concluding today call. Thank you all for your time, and have a good day.

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