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Earnings Call: Q4 2022

Mar 14, 2023

Operator

Good day everyone, and welcome to the GlobalWafers FY 2022 earnings call hosted by Sunny Lin. My name is Marcel, and I am your event manager. During the presentation, your lines will remain on listen only. If you require assistance at any time, please press star zero on your telephone and the coordinator will be happy to assist you. I would like to advise all parties that this conference is being recorded. Now I would like to hand over to your host. Sunny, please proceed.

Sunny Lin
Semiconductor Analyst, UBS

Thank you, Marcel. Good afternoon and good morning everyone. I'm Sunny Lin, semiconductor analyst at UBS. It's our great honor today to host GlobalWafers management for their Q4 2022 earnings release. Let me hand over to Ms. Leah Chen, who just got promoted to be the Spokesperson of GlobalWafers for opening remarks. Over to you, Leah.

Leah Peng
Spokesperson, GlobalWafers

Thank you, Sunny. Dear all, thank you very much for joining GlobalWafers 2022 earnings call. This is Leah Peng, the new spokesperson. We will also have Doris Hsu, the Chairperson and the CEO of GlobalWafers. Doris will guide us through the executive comments, then I will elaborate on the industry overview and the financial results. Doris will answer the questions we recently received from the investors, followed by an open Q&A session. Kindly note that this presentation has been uploaded onto our web homepage. If you do not have the file on hand, please access our website. Please understand that this earnings call contains forward-looking statements. Forward-looking terminology such as believes, expect, may, will, should, anticipate, and their update or similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements.

We caution you that these statements are not guarantees of future preferences or events that are subject to a number of uncertainties, risks, and other influences, many of which are beyond our control, which may influence the accuracy of the statements and the projections upon which statements are based and could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated by these forward-looking statements. Please refer to the safe harbor notice in our presentation. I would like to hand over the call to Doris for the executive comments. Doris, please.

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Thank you, Leah. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you very much for joining GlobalWafers earnings call, Q4 2022. Lea, our spokesperson, will guide us through the presentation after my comments. First of all, let me share some comments of our financial results and update operation status. If you have already downloaded our material, please turn to page three, Financial Highlights. 2022 is our best ever year for GlobalWafers. We have notched a record-breaking growth. First, our revenue hit a historical high with double-digit YoY growth. Our Q4 revenue totaled TWD 18.4 billion with 16.7% YoY. Full year revenue in 2022 achieved TWD 70.3 billion. This is a 15% increase YoY.

Our growth momentum has been lasting for three years, starting from Q1 to 2020, which is consecutive growth for 12 quarters. Considering all the challenges in the past three years like COVID, supply chain disruption, border control, extreme climate, and geopolitical tensions, I think this result is quite remarkable. Regarding to GlobalWafers gross profit, our gross margin, gross profit margin Q4 2022 hit 42.7%. In the whole 2022 full year gross margin hit 43.2%. This is a record high for us as well. Our operating profit margin in 2022 amounted to 35.5%. This is again, an all-time high. Page four, please. I'm going to talk a little bit about our net profit. We achieved the best quarterly net profit margin at 31.5% in Q4 2022.

In general, our overall revenue gross margin, operating income and net profit are doing pretty well. Our EPS has been deeply correlated to the mark-to-market valuation on Siltronic shares, which has eroded our profits in previous quarters owing to Siltronic's low share price and very fluctuating share prices. Even though GlobalWafers managed to contribute the best ever in both quarterly and annual EPS, which were TWD 13.31 per share in Q4 and 35. I'm sorry about that. TWD 13.31 per share, that's our Q4 EPS and 35.31 EPS, earning per share, this is our 2022 full years EPS. If excluding the valuation loss and other non-operational factors, GlobalWafers's 2022 EPS would've amounted to record-breaking high 40 per share.

That would be a very good number. Okay. Next, I would like to talk a little bit about our prepayment amount. As of end of 2022, GlobalWafers' net prepayment amount is as high as TWD 39.7 billion or $1.3 billion, increasing around TWD 1.5 billion in Q4. This is a very good number for us, and this is a good protection for us as well. This is our new record as well, TWD 39.7 billion prepayment, net prepayment amount. Next, please turn to page five. Let me share a little bit about industry outlook. Global if not economy, in general, in January, IMF has raised its 2023 global GDP forecast by 0.2% to 2.9%.

This is the very first time the forecast been revised upwards in more than one year. As the adverse risk has moderated, IMF sees a turning point for the global economy, with growth bottoming out in 2023 and then climbing to 3.1% in 2024. For semiconductor industry, specifically for semiconductor industry, soft momentum in consumer electronics, and oversupply in memory sector has dragged down 2023. However, the long-term prospects are still very bright. The growing 5G subscriptions, large data storage and new AI applications will together drive healthy growth in the digital economy and support the semiconductor resurgence in 2024. That's our review as well. Talking about inventory, I think in the past several quarters, inventory correction is always a big issue for the whole supply chain.

Semiconductor market is entering into a major correction cycle, inventory correction cycle. While the overall inventory interest is no longer in a shortage zone, there are still inventory imbalance with an abundance of consumer electronics and also an availability of automotive. Still not very balanced now, but inventory correction has been in place for several quarters already. Turn to page six, please. I'm going to talk a little bit about compound semiconductor. I think the past several quarters, Ukraine-Russia war is a catalyst for many nations to strengthen domestic energy security, propelling the robust growth of compound semiconductor attributes to its features of low switching losses and high thermal conductivities. Not only EV, metal plat silicon carbide are widely found in power supply applications such as industrial equipment.

The COVID-19 pandemic and its aftermath have accelerated the future of mobility with profound effects on customers' preferences, technology adoption and regulations. We believe that in automotive industry, we're expecting continue to seeing disruption throughout the whole 2023. Page seven. I'm going to talk a little bit about our global solution, and those are some uniqueness of GlobalWafers that forge our competitive advantage in the volatile era. In the following pages. Page eight. As succession of disruption to world trade have put the reorganization of international supply chains high on the political agenda, the increased risk of interruption of supplies forces business today to price in political factors and respond to political demands. Luckily, GlobalWafers needs not long time frames to reconfigure supply chains.

Our global presence comprising 17 sites in nine countries across Asia, Europe and America enable us the rapid responses immediately. Our customers, our customer distribution matches the semiconductor, Tier 1 players geographically, translating to real-time service and flexible shipment. That's our unique, our uniqueness. We are running our operation in three continents, nine countries, 17 sites. If we add the new site in Sherman, we have 18 sites in nine countries, three continents. Global presence, that's our uniqueness. Page nine. I want to update a little bit about our green solutions.

Climate change is creating many life-threatening disruptions. Almost 200 countries have already committed to the 2016 Paris Agreement to limit the temperature rise, so as to mitigate or prevent some of the most dangerous effects of climate change. Business across industries are now scrutinizing emissions along their entire supply chain to reach net zero emissions for their full value chain. Local supply is the most efficient way to achieve substantial emission reductions, CO2 emission reduction. With multiple operations across the three continents, GlobalWafers' low carbon footage makes it a reliable ESG partner for our customers for being green. That's the, some quick summary of our overall operation and finance information. I would like to This to Leah for further detail to introduce the industry outlook and financial performance. Thank you very much.

Leah, please.

Leah Peng
Spokesperson, GlobalWafers

Thank you, Doris. Let me begin with the global GDP growth forecast in page 11. Despite the continued headwinds from Russia's invasion over Ukraine, inflation, COVID shutdowns and the resurgence in China, global GDP was surprisingly strong in the second half of 2022. Energy markets have adjusted to sanctions on Russia faster than our expectations. Regardless of inflation, consumer spending was better than originally forecasted. China's reopening is also believed to eventually boost supply chains. Like what Doris just said, the IMF has raised its 2023 global GDP forecast by 0.2%. It is the first time it has been revised upwards in more than a year. Seeing a turning point for the global economy, with growth bottoming out in 2023, and then will climb in 2024.

Yet the concerns in interest rates, Russia's invasion and China's enormous health outcome after a sudden reopening, this will continue to weigh on the outlook of the economy activities. Next is page 12. This chart circulation of various researches and analysis, where we could see comments that after the historical highs in shipping area and revenue in 2022, semiconductor faces stagnation in 2023. However, the long term growth is anticipated, underpinned by the burgeoning digital economy, including 5G, EV and data center. Also, it is believed that 2024 and 2025 will grow 6% in each year. Let's move on to page 13. Being ubiquitous in all applications, semiconductor industry is forecasted to have 8% CAGR in the next four years from 2023 to 2027.

This will drive double digital growth across all regions, with positive growth in all device types. The top growth device categories in this time period are sensors, actuators at 11% and IC at 9%. Please allow me to further elaborate the inventory status in the following two pages. First, let's start with page 14. After the start of the pandemic, demand for microchips was sky-rocketing by computer, TV and household appliance manufacturers. However, the consumer electronics sector is reporting an up to 30% lower demand in revenue, resulting sales decline for semiconductor manufacturers in 2022 and 2023. Older generation semiconductors, on the other hand, those are often used in like automotives and industrial electronics. These are set to remain in short supply for the foreseeable future, due to the supply bottleneck for analog chips and the microcontrollers.

This is not a structural oversupply in all types of applications, but a balancing in different market sectors that are impacted in the different way at a different time. For example, memory starts to be suffered from low demand since Q3 2022. Foundry started in Q4 2022, while automotive and industrial are giving signals of resilience and maintaining a good traction. Page 15 is the evolvement of the inventory depletion. Based on Gartner's research in the fourth quarter of 2022, the index of inventory semiconductor supply chain has entered the moderate surplus zone, while the overall index is no longer in a shortage zone. There are still inventory imbalances with an amount abundance in foundries and shortage of others. Overall, most chip categories are exhibiting an improvement in inventory. Semiconductor demand from consumer markets continue to deteriorate due to the weakening microeconomy.

The inventory index is expected to continue increasing until the second quarter of 2023, before it starts to recede and demand picks up. Let's move on to page 16. The automotive electronics. The automotive electronic and software market will see a very strong growth through 2030. This will be driven by the power electronic software, ECUs and DCUs. The CAGR of the whole market is projected to register at 5.5%, nearly 4 x than that of the patient during 2019 to 2030. This is an evidence that increasing silicon content per unit driven by technology innovation. The next one is, let's talk about the renewable capacity growth in page seven.

Being capable of reducing energy loops by up to 90%, compound semiconductors are deployed in a wide range of power applications, particularly ideal for renewable energy. The Ukraine war and the climate change are the catalysts for many nations to build energy economy. The IEA, which is International Energy Agency, is overall renewable test will increase by almost 2,400 GW. This is 75% between 2022 and 2027. In its maintaining narrow in turn will augment SiC penetration rate. In page 18, this is SiC price market, which is expected to grow at a CAGR of 34% between 2021 to 2027. SiC is perfectly suitable for power applications, for being able to offer high thermal conductivity.

Its various applications include converters, inverters, power supply, battery chargers and motor control systems, and the renewable energy and the rail. Page 19, this is the GaN power device market forecast, which will grow with a CAGR of 59% in 2021 to 2027, and will eventually reach $2 billion. The consumer segment has the largest 50% CAGR. This is driven largely by the adoption of GaN in mobile phone fast chargers. Automotive share is small today, but it will have the largest CAGR of 97% by 2027. The following page are GlobalWafers financial, like what Doris just presented. We have contributed remarkable 2022. Page 12, page 21 shows our Q4 quarterly performance. Our Q4 revenue TWD 18 billion with 70% YoY, the best ever, marking the twelfth quarterly growth, a long lasting.

Gross margin was 42.7%. This is our third best. Operating profit margin amounted to 34.6%. Our Q4 net profit totaled TWD 5.8 billion with 31.5% margin. This is our record high. Our EPS climbed all-time high at TWD 13.31 per share. Our Q4 ROE was 44% and the ROA at 14%, reflecting our correct business model and the nimble operation. Page 21 is our 2022 performance. Our annual revenue has crossed TWD 70 billion milestone. What's more, our consolidated revenue in this January and this February in 2023 has reached nearly TWD 6 billion. Both rose to the highest revenue in the same period over the entire history. Our 2022 gross profit margin was 43.2%. Operating income margin amounted to 35.5%.

All of these hit the highest record in the history. Net profit margin was 21.9%. In 2022, our full year EPS amounted to TWD 35.31 per share. This is also an all-time high. Our annual EPS would have climbed to TWD 48 per share if all non-operational influences were excluded. In page 23, you can see the chart which shows our quarterly revenue and gross profit. Revenue trends up since 2020, a momentum that lasting for three years. Page 24 is our EBITDA and EPS. In 2022, our EBITDA was TWD 25.5 billion. This is the best ever, and its margin has hit 36.3%. If excluding all the impact we just mentioned, our EBITDA would have become nearly TWD 34 billion with 49% margin.

Our annual EPS is TWD 35.31. It would have been as high as TWD 48, our best performance ever. Please refer to other pages for our income statements and balance sheet and ESG performance. I would like to give the floor to Doris for the Q&A section. Thank you, Doris.

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Okay, thanks. Thanks, Leah. We have received quite a lot of questions from investors in the past several days. I would like to answer some of them, the most frequently asked questions, especially, you know, the first one is about our business, our order status, and what's our outlook. Also, we were asked about how about our view of the inventory correction and how about CHIPS Act new information, talking about the print and also special things. What's our view on this? Also, we receive a lot of questions about how about Tesla's Master Plan Part 3, talking about silicon carbide, a huge cut, 75% down of the use of silicon carbide size. What's our view of this?

I'm going to answer these questions first, and then we'll move to those. Let me answer some of the questions first. The first question I would like to answer is about what is GlobalWafers order status and what's our view on the future outlook? Our answer is that a quick answer is that currently our 12-inch, 8-inch lines are still basically we are still running in full production. Small diameters utilization rate is much lower. When I said full, that doesn't mean that we ship every single wafer to our customers every month. That's not the case. If you check our inventory financial report, you will find that our year-end inventory value is as high as TWD 8.5 billion, which is about 5% higher than previous quarter.

That means that some of our customers, they are suffering from even high inventory, so they ask us to keep some inventory for them. That's what we are doing. We keep our line fully loaded. We fully utilize the line to produce, but at the same time, we work with our customers to adjust that what they need most now, so then we can ship, we can produce the product they need, like power related components, or some automotive stuff. Some of the customer, after adjustment, they still have some, a little bit open, and then we will produce for them, and we reserve the shipment. We push out the shipment by a couple of months.

That's what we are doing now. Let me summarize my answer for this question now that, basically, with the onset of the market drop starting from the second half of 2022, we have been working very diligently with our customers to mitigate the growing inventory situation. We have been adjusting shipments to more closely align with our customers' needs, thereby helping to minimize the specific product inventory buildup. An example is that we're shifting more production to power production, power products in support of automotive, industrial, and IoT applications. These products, these product pivots help to limit impact to our factory's utilization rate, while also helping customers meet their the commitments of their LTAs. That's what we are doing.

A little bit higher inventory in GWC, at the same time, we work very closely with our customers. Meets their LTA, but also swap a little bit some of their wafers to different application like automotive. That's what we are doing. I think that Gartner also made a comment talking about the inventory adjustment. They said inventory adjustments should be mostly resolved by Q2. That's our view as well. I think the whole overall industry inventory adjustment should be mostly resolved by Q2. Although PC, smartphones shipments maybe will decrease this year, but the rate of decline will be significantly lower than 2022. That's our view for this.

I think that the market, the future, our future outlook is that the near term view is that somewhat is still cloudy. The visibility is not really very clear yet, but we believe that the inventory correction will be very mild in the second half if it's still there. We think that the recovery will be starting from second half 2023 or as late as end of 2023. That's our view for the industry. The second question is semiconductor industry outlook. What's our view of the industry outlook? I think we anticipate that early 2023 will be still be slump as it is a traditional low season for consumer products and the inventory correction persists.

We'll gradually recover in the second half. That's our view. Automotive is likely to grow after 2023. This is our overall view that application, the inventory, the recovery will vary from application to application. Power industry automotive related components will recover, will be definitely overall performance much better than consumers or memory related applications. That's our view. Question is about CHIPS Act and GWA status. The question we received is about GWA, what GWA current status and what's our progress in on CHIPS Act. GWA current is our truly Asian phase with initial peers being three old starting from this week. That's what we are doing.

GWA, if you visit Sherman, you will see that we already started our construction right over there. The progress remains on track with pilot production line capability available in July 2024. This is still our in line with our original plan, enabling our customer sampling during second half 2024. Initial mass production starting from Q1 2025. That's our schedule, and everything is on schedule. That's our production plan, expansion plan. We should be, I think Q1 2025 start starting our production, mass production. This should be a very good timing within the next semiconductor upturn. That's our view. That's the current status of GWA. CHIPS Act, our American team is our Texas team.

American Texas team is following the timeline closely and closely monitor the U.S. government's announcement. You know, right now, starting from February, CHIPS Act already start a phase I, all the application procedures, but phase I is for fab, not for material. We are material company. Our, for our sector, the CHIPS Act application process will be starting from late April or early May. That's current status. We will follow the timeline very closely and also we'll closely monitor that what U.S. government announce. Okay. Next question is that is also is about U.S. government's information.

The question is that it has been widely reported that U.S. government has set strict conditions on incentive and profit sharing. If GWC only receives 5%-15% of our expected capital expenditure, how does it compensate the expensive cost of American manufacturing? Not to mention those who receive more than $150 million in subsidies must share the excess profit with U.S. government. That's the question. We receive so many shareholders asking about exactly same question. Let me answer the question here then. The first question is talking about incentive limit to 5%-15%. Actually, this is not true. From NOFO, that's Notice of Funding Opportunity. This is U.S. government's information, NOFO, Notice of Funding Opportunity. Let me provide some clarification here.

On page 9 of this document, it states that 5%-15% is the generally expected range for the direct funding, cash funding, cash grant. However, there is no fixed amount for how much a project receiving CHIPS Act funding. So far, we haven't found any firm number or fixed amount at how much a company, a project can receive in CHIPS Act direct funding. There is no firm number yet. 5% - 15% is just a generally expected range. The range may be higher if a project is not eligible for the investment tax credit, which as a material suppliers, GWC is not expected to be eligible for investment tax credit. That means that a company like GlobalWafers, which is not eligible for investment tax credit, will have higher direct funding rate.

This is our un-understanding. There are a lot of details we're still trying to figure out that to clarify that some details of the document now. That's the only information I can share with everyone, that the 5%-15% is just a generally expected number. It's not a fixed number or a firm range. We're still working on further details with U.S. government now. That's what I can share now for the CHIPS Act. I think there it's still very it's still not very clear for us. I mean, there are a lot of details, and we are still trying to figure out some special regulations, but we are in the second group. We will start our process from late April or early May.

We monitor very closely that how. I think there will be more and more clarification released in the next several, couple months because the fab companies like Intel, TSMC, all the fab companies are working with U.S. government now. I think that all the regulations will be more clear in the next couple months. When we start our procedure, we will have much better understanding of the procedure. Okay, the next question is about the. It's a very straightforward question that, "Do you think," I received a question from a shareholder. They asked that, "Do you think that it is a wrong decision to select U.S.A. as Greenfield location? Will you change the investment location if the subsidy does not match your expectations?"

I think while the, y ou know, the details of CHIPS Act are still under U.S. government discussion, we are waiting for more details, and our American team is following up with the timeline and also monitoring the U.S. government announcement very closely now. It's too early for a GlobalWafer to say that is this selecting U.S.A. a wrong decision or what. It's too early to talk about this. We believe that we will figure things out, and we will have a good operation in the U.S. Next question is that is about the geopolitical tension. That's Taiwan is caught between the power play between U.S. and China. What is GlobalWafers' strategy for contingencies? What's our strategy to avoid from any disruption from the power play? Here is our answer.

While GlobalWafers is already a very globalized company with eighteen operations, of course, including our U.S., GWA, the Sherman new Greenfield. With eighteen operations across nine countries, the threat of future instability is having an impact on decision-making. Therefore, we diversify the production bases in three continents. Ask customer to do a qualify our sites, preferably in different continents to mitigate the risk. To strengthen our business continuity. In the meantime, we also build multiple suppliers and develop customers in different countries and applications. Our customers are distributed evenly in numerous regions and applications. This is how we build our resilience in the turbulent world.

I think that is one of a very important value for GWA as well, because up to now, we don't have any 300 mm full production line in the U.S. When we have GWA, we will be, this operation will be not only very helpful for GWC, the whole group's resilience improvement, it will be very important for U.S. semiconductor supply chains resilience improvement as well. Okay, next question is about about Tesla's Master Plan. They talk about silicon carbide. The question is that Tesla recently announced that they plan to slash use of silicon carbide transistor by 70%, 75% without compromising the performance and efficiency. This announcement has brought a huge blow to all silicon carbide makers.

Compound semiconductor has been one of GlobalWafers' target business. Please comment on this point. First of all, I would like to highlight again that GlobalWafers is not a silicon carbide company. We are a total solution provider. That means that we have not only silicon carbide, we have a lot of material good for power applications. Basically it's our company policy that on individual brand, individual company's policy, please allow me try to share our thoughts of silicon carbide and applications with all of you. First of all, less silicon carbide does not mean semiconductor wafers are not needed anymore. The reduced silicon carbide die count means higher count of silicon die.

That means that if you, if you make a module, a power module power system, if you use less silicon carbide die, that means that you have to use some other silicon or different material, different die. You will have more die count for other material when you have lower silicon carbide die count to compensate the original function, which means that it's very likely that more float-zone business for IGBT for the same EV application. If as a total solution provider, if silicon carbide demand drop a little bit, but it will switch part of the application to some other silicon material. That's material replacement.

I think, for Tesla, a module design will be the key. Module design improvement will be the key for this, for this plan. The such silicon carbide without compensating the performance will require significant improvement in module design. Being the first to adopt silicon carbide inverters into its powertrain, Tesla's original design might not optimize for efficiency and might be a little bit redundant. This is a nature evolution for a very good company like Tesla. The improvement in module design may require additional powertrain, pushing the volume and demand. Again, GlobalWafers' products are the indispensable substrate for all applications. We are a total solution provider. We have not only compound, but also we have float-zone, we have gallium nitride, we have silicon carbide and other materials as well.

We think that we could supply either way, no matter silicon carbide or more float-zone or a different design. Therefore we reckon this as an opportunity rather than a risk as it will lead to silicon cannibalization as well. This is to answer that the 75% silicon carbide use cut, but from total market viewpoint, matter of fact, silicon carbide market will not drop. Maybe for EV per every single EV, every single car vehicle, the silicon carbide chip count will be lower than what they are doing today. The whole EV car total amount will increase. Also, the semiconductor silicon semiconductor content for every each electronics vehicle will keep increasing in the next several years.

I believe that that's our view, that even Tesla or the EV industry really improves the module design to very good efficient, no redundant and much lower silicon carbide die count. Even this does happen, I think the whole silicon carbide industry demand is still very high. Yes. That, that's our view. In we received another question that after Tesla's announcement, Will this Tesla announcement affect GlobalWafers' compound semiconductor investment plan or future strategy? Our answer is a very clear no. We will keep the same investment pace and the scale up.

We will keep doing this because we believe in the total addressable market for compound semiconductor is enormous as it poses silicon carbide have the superior characteristic that could not be replaced, 100% replaced by silicon or other material which are the needed features for technology innovation. In addition, GlobalWafers compound business is rather small today comparing to our comprehensive portfolio. We need to augment rapidly to meet the strong demand for our customers. That means that we will keep increasing our capacity, silicon carbide capacity, as we explained, announced to the market before. We'll keep doubling our capacity, and we will keep improving our silicon carbide quality. At the same time, we will increase our.

We will try to accelerate our silicon carbide 8-inch production as well. That's our answer to silicon carbide question, related questions. Okay, I think that's all of the questions. I want to reserve some time for open questions. Thank you very much, Sunny. It's okay to receive open question now. Thank you.

Sunny Lin
Semiconductor Analyst, UBS

Sure. Thank you very much, Doris and Leah. Now let's begin the Q&A session. Please limit your questions to two at a time. Now, maybe let me kick off the session with two questions from my side, if I may. Number one, Doris, just now you mentioned that for Q4, clients start to push out some of the shipment schedule while the company retain the full production. I wonder if you only look at the actual shipment by the customers, what's the utilization rate for your 8-inch and 12-inch in Q4? How should we think about your seasonality going to Q1 and Q2? Are you still keeping the full production?

Therefore, should we assume, let's say, if demand going to second half, is not picking up as expected, will there be any risk, that you need to lower your utilization rate a bit more? Thank you.

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Thank you, Sunny. Thanks for the question. Yes. If we, if we produce only for the shipment, for the volume we need to ship at the same time, our loading will be 90% +, will be still over 90% for both 8-inch and 12-inch. Over 90%, both of them. We keep 100% loading. Main reason for this is that we know, not only we feel our customers also, many of our customers believe that second half demand will be stronger than first half. They want us to commit that all the capacity we reserve for them in the first half, they can get the wafers from in the second half. They want us to guarantee that they will get their wafers in the second half.

That's why we feel that the best way is that we build, we keep our inventory a little bit higher because many of our customers have already committed to take the wafer. Just, you know, just push out one month or two months, so that's very minor for us. That's our status.

Sunny Lin
Semiconductor Analyst, UBS

Got it. If we look at 2023, your current expectation is the semi's revenue may be down by low single digit. How should we think about the growth for GlobalWafers? How should we think about the gross margin, as Q4, despite being at full production, your margin was declining by 1%? How should we think about 2023?

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Basically, our company policy is that we don't really give the outlook revenue range or growth margin percent, but I can give you some rough idea that we think that we are expecting that our overall performance will be still better than 2022. That's our expectation for 2023. That's our view, revenue-wise. Growth margin-wise, it depends on currency because it's really, you know, the FX change, currency is really unpredictable. That hurts. That is very complicated for us. Growth margin may be flat or close to what we are doing or maybe close to 2022 or ± a little bit percent.

A short and very narrow range difference, pretty much linked with FX. That's a critical point. I think because freight is getting back to normal now, it's much better now. Freight is better. Electricity is still bad. Electricity cost is still bad, still high, but it's basically manageable. The most critical point for us is FX. That's the current status. Thank you.

Sunny Lin
Semiconductor Analyst, UBS

Got it. Thank you very much. Marcel, would you please take the questions from the line?

Operator

Yes. Thank you. Everyone, if you wish to ask a question, please press star and one on your telephone. If you decide to withdraw your question, simply press star two . Questions will be answered in the order received, and you will be advised when to ask your question. All other lines will remain on listen only. The first question is coming from the line of Donnie Teng. Your line is now open. Please proceed.

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Hello, Donnie, I cannot hear you. Hello, Donnie.

Operator

If I can see Donnie's question has been withdrawn. The next question is coming from the line of Bruce Lu. Your line is now open. Please proceed.

Bruce Lu
VP, Goldman Sachs

Hi, Doris. Can you hear me?

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Yes. Yes, I can hear you, Bruce. Hi. Thank you.

Bruce Lu
VP, Goldman Sachs

The first. Thank you. I think the first question is still regarding to your U.S. plan. I mean, you know, I think you do mention that the equipment moving schedule will depends on your LTA status. Can you give us some update for the LTA situation for the U.S. fab? Would that be, you know, you know, the cost for the U.S. must be higher, right? TSMC has been saying to sell on fab. Are you going to charge a different pricing for your U.S. fab? What would be, what if there's like incremental like, you know, margin accredited for or dilutive for your for your U.S. fab?

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Yes. Thanks for the question. I think, you know, we will kick off the whole GWA construction, which is 80% LTA. We have to secure 80% LTA for GWA to kick off the whole construction. As I just reported earlier, presented earlier that we have already started our GWA construction. That means that we have already secured over 80% capacity LTA. That's where we are. It's not 100% yet, but it's already over 80%. Talking about the cost there, from, you know, from our calculation and our monitor, I think, the construction cost is extremely high. U.S. construction cost, I don't know about other states, but in Texas, it's so much higher than Asia. That's really very expensive.

Equipment cost is same, you know, because we purchase equipment from all sides, so equipment cost is no different. Construction cost so much higher. The other operation cost actually is quite close because we're talking about labor costs, which is higher than Asia, but the electricity cost is much lower than Asia. The real estate property cost is lower. From our overall simulation, we think that construction cost is very expensive, but fortunately, construction cost you can depreciate by over 20 years, 30 years. I forgot how many years, but it's depreciated for much longer than equipment.

Cash flow wise, total investment is much higher, but the overall profitability, from profitability viewpoint, our goal is that GWA, we hope that GWA overall gross margin will be close to Asia fab's gross margin, at least starting from year six. The reason starting from year six is that the first five years, everything new, that means that everything is 100%, you need everything. Depreciation cost will be much higher than Asia. The Asia fab, most of the fab, 80% - 90% use the equipment, but 10% expansion because those expansions are all brownfield, not like GWA, it's 100% greenfield. Of course, depreciation cost will be much higher than other sites.

Starting from year six, I think depreciation cost will be equal, the same as the all the Asia sites as will be much more competitive, will be much more manageable. I think in general, maybe gross margin percentage-wise will be lower, but the company overall gross margin amount will be higher. That's our expectation. For your question about pricing, I think we said we have a different pricing with our, you know, every LTA, every product, we have different price. But we didn't set the price that, okay, if you, if you buy the wafers from American Fab, it will be higher. That's not how we manage our pricing strategy.

Basically, the U.S. price, U.S. products are a little bit different from Asia products, so the price is different. It's not, if it's higher, it's not because it's in U.S., it's because that it's different. I hope I made myself clear. Thank you very much for your question.

Bruce Lu
VP, Goldman Sachs

Thank you. It's very clear. I think the second question is I want to make it clear for the company you just mentioned about like silicon carbide, which we will even though the content's lower, but it will be replaced by, you know, other compound semi. The question is that the dollar content for silicon carbide and for, you know, other compound semi for you, the dollar content is different. It's not one to one, right?

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Mm-hmm.

Bruce Lu
VP, Goldman Sachs

How do we balance it? How do we see the, you know, the tuning out is different. How do we foresee that?

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

No. I, of course, one silicon die and one silicon carbide die, the price of course, dollar to dollar is different. You are very right. For us, first of all, our total silicon carbide sales volume will keep growing. Because our share is still very low, we believe that the whole market, the addressable market will keep growing, because of the content, like what I explained. For me, total silicon carbide volume is increasing as well. Float-zone is increasing, gallium nitride is increasing, all the compound materials is increasing. Part of that is from the EV or renewable energy, the grid or heavy power or onboard chargers. Those market volume is increasing rapidly. That's one reason.

Another reason is because we are obtaining, gaining some market share. That's our goal. We try to gain some market share as well. I don't know if this is clear. I mean, that you are right that die to die, two different product, of course price is different. That's how Tesla is going to cut down their car price, total car price. Their goal is to cut down by 50%. In order to reach that, of course, they wanna keep the efficiency, but they have to replace some components. For GlobalWafers as a material, as a material vendor, no change.

As long as that we sell many silicon carbide dies, we still can get the revenue. Not, we don't sell by die, we sell by wafer.

Bruce Lu
VP, Goldman Sachs

The dollar content for silicon and silicon was so big that, you know, if there's a meaningful changes in the silicon carbide usage, the total addressable market for you should be smaller, right? Why is that there's no change for your investment?

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

No, no.

Bruce Lu
VP, Goldman Sachs

Yeah.

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Total addressable market will still grow, because the, you know, EV is just one of the application for silicon carbide. EV is just one of the applications. There are so many applications and more and more applications are still under development. I believe that total addressable market is still there. As I said, that addressable market will keep growing. Another one is that our market share, we try to obtain higher market share. That will grow as well. That is how we. Our silicon carbide capacity is still too small. No matter what, we still have to increase our capacity. We'll keep doing the same thing.

Bruce Lu
VP, Goldman Sachs

I see. Understand. Thank you.

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Thank you very much.

Sunny Lin
Semiconductor Analyst, UBS

Thank you very much. In the interest of time, we may have to wrap up here. Thank you all for joining. Thanks again, Doris and Leah, for your time today. This marks the end of the call. Thank you.

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Thank you very much, everyone. Thank you.

Leah Peng
Spokesperson, GlobalWafers

Thank you. Bye-bye.

Doris Hsu
Chairperson and CEO, GlobalWafers

Bye. Have a good day. Bye-bye.

Operator

Thank you, everyone. That concludes your conference call for today. You may now disconnect.

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