Good day. Welcome to the Allied Properties REIT second quarter 2018 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Michael Emory, President and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you very much. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to our conference call. Tom and Cecilia are here with me to discuss Allied's financial and operating results for the second quarter ended June 30, 2018. We may, in the course of this conference call, make forward-looking statements about future events or future performance. These statements, by their nature, are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual events or results to differ materially, including those risks described under the heading "Risks and Uncertainties" in our most recently filed annual information form. Material assumptions that underpin any forward-looking statements we make include those assumptions described under "Forward-Looking Disclosure" in our most recent quarterly report. To begin, our operating and development environments have been particularly supportive in 2018, our team took advantage of the favorable conditions to deliver solid results for the second quarter and first half of the year.
In the quarter, we continued to propel strong organic growth in our rental portfolio and made substantial progress in our development portfolio. In addition, we continued the ongoing strengthening of our debt metrics, which will enable us to execute our development program over the next 5 years with added financial flexibility and discipline. Cecilia will now elaborate on our financial results for the quarter. Tom will follow with an overview of our operating results. I'll finish with a discussion of our outlook for 2018 and beyond. With no further ado, over to Cecilia.
Good morning. I will address our financial results and balance sheets. First, financial results. Driven by occupancy gain and rent growth in Toronto and Montreal, our same asset NOI in the second quarter was up 10% from the comparable quarter last year, driving 15% growth in our normalized FFO per unit. Same-asset NOI at 250 Front West was up 52% in the second quarter as full rent had commenced on all of the occupied space by the beginning of the year. Even excluding 250 Front West, our same asset NOI was up 8%, which is encouraging and consistent with our internal forecast. Driven largely by the recent completion of upgrade properties in Montreal, our NAV per unit at the end of the quarter was up 6% from the end of the comparable quarter last year.
The IFRS value adjustment in the quarter totaled CAD 79 million, excluding incremental capital investment of CAD 57 million. At CAD 264 million, our normalized EBITDA was up 5% from the same quarter last year. This growth is also consistent with our internal forecast. Moving to the balance sheet. We took the opportunity at the end of June to issue CAD 300 million of equity to pay off our highest-rate mortgage and pay down our operating line. We were able to do this in a non-dilutive manner. This resulted in significant improvement in our debt metrics, which are now stronger than ever. At quarter end, our debt ratio was at our target of 30%. Net debt to EBITDA was 6.8 times, also within our targeted range. Interest coverage in the quarter, excluding the interest on the retired mortgage debt, was 3.3 times, representing progress towards our target of four times.
We intend to continue paying off mortgages coming due in the balance of 2018, totaling CAD 52 million at maturity. This will continue the growth in our pooled unencumbered properties. At quarter end, the pool totaled CAD 3.8 billion, representing 64% of the IFRS value of our properties. This was up 48% from the same time last year. We finished the quarter with CAD 20 million drawn on our unsecured operating line, leaving us with CAD 230 million of availability. Also, in the quarter, we received an unsecured debt rating of Baa3 with a stable trend from Moody's. Now, with two investment grade credit ratings, our ability to access the debt capital markets on favorable financial terms is enhanced. We intend to continue our unsecured debenture program. I will now pass the call to Tom for a discussion of our leasing and operating activities.
Thank you, Cecilia. Our leasing environment has been very strong, with demand in all markets. We've completed seven significant transactions in recent weeks totaling 640,000 square feet of space. Four of the deals, totaling 195,000 square feet, were for our rental portfolio in Eastern Region, and three deals totaling 445,000 square feet were pre-leasing commitments for two developments in Toronto and Vancouver. More on these transactions shortly. Our occupied area increased in the quarter by 40 basis points to 94.9%, and our leased area increased by 40 basis points to 95.4%. We continue to show very healthy lifts in net rents on space renewed or replaced so far in 2018. For the six months ending June 30th, rents increased by 23% on maturity. We fully expect renewal or replacement to continue to show very positive increases over the balance of the year.
Moving from east to west, I'll provide an update on leasing activity in our four major markets, and conclude with an update on our carrier hotels. Starting in Montreal. One of our leasing objectives in 2018 was to complete the lease-up of a large portion of the ground floor at Le Nordelec to office tenants. Most of the ground floor in this building had been previously occupied by industrial users. We have now achieved full lease-up on the ground floor of the office component of this project. GSoft leased 95,000 square feet, and Logibec leased 40,000 square feet. While these transactions will not provide much additional revenue in 2018, they will represent significant lifts in revenue in 2019. We are now focused on leasing the remaining retail space in the building.
At 6300 Parc, we completed an expansion of Moment Factory for 17,000 square feet, bringing that building to 95.6% leased. At 740 Maurice, we completed a deal with Technicolor for 40,000 square feet, bringing that building to 100% leased. Construction at our redevelopment project at 425 Viger is going well. We are basically adding 100,000 square feet to a 200,000 square foot building. Interest on the part of a large number of large users is encouraging. We are in advanced negotiations for 100,000 square feet with a global brand, and expect to make an announcement within a few months. This project will be delivered for tenant work in Q3 2019. Moving to Toronto, our prime focus has been pre-leasing The Well, a joint venture with RioCan. We were very pleased to announce two transactions earlier this week for a total of 325,000 square feet.
Index Exchange has committed to lease up to 200,000 square feet, and another high-caliber tenant has committed for 125,000. These two deals represent 30% of the office space in the project. Two other transactions totaling 520,000 square feet are at the final documentation stage. If completed, will bring the office component to 80% leased. Now that we've made commitments to complete the commercial component of the project, we will open up discussions with smaller-sized tenants. We expect the leasing to progress smoothly. In Calgary, we continue to lease smaller suites, which have been improved essentially to move-in condition. Despite a 10,000 square foot non-renewal, we maintained leased area of 88.3% at quarter end. With respect to TELUS Sky in Calgary, our development project with Westbank and TELUS, we are currently working with three prospects for a total of 120,000 square feet.
If we can complete these deals, we will move to 61% leased. As the building takes shape, interest levels increase. Moving to Vancouver, the office market there remains rock solid. One pocket of space of 11,000 square feet at Sun Tower, which is our only vacant unit in this market. At 400 West Georgia, a Westbank project we are financing, with the obligation to acquire a 50% interest upon completion, Deloitte committed to 117,000 square feet for their new Vancouver headquarters. Negotiations are in the final stages with two other high-quality tenants, which will bring this project to 80% leased. Delivery for tenant will be mid-2020. Now to our carrier hotels. 151 Front is 98.5% leased, 905 King is 93% leased. At 250 Front, we recently agreed to terms with a tenant requiring 5,000 square feet, bringing our leased area to 64%.
We are still in negotiations with three tenants for a total of 36,000 square feet. We expect progress in Q3. Ancillary revenue in this building is slowly building. We've also completed a deal to be the sole termination point for a large fiber optic cable across Lake Ontario, linking Toronto and New York. The cable will terminate at 151 Front, providing existing tenants and new ones a low-latency, highly secure, redundant link to the U.S. We will set up a separate meeting room and collect recurring fees from all future connections. No capital investment is required on our part. The cable will be in place and operational in Q4. I will now turn the call back to Michael.
Thanks, Tom. Looking forward, our outlook for 2018 remains positive. Our internal forecast contemplates solid mid-single-digit % growth in same asset NOI, low single-digit % growth in FFO per unit, and high single-digit % growth in AFFO per unit. We expect continued growth in NAV per unit in 2018, with significant contributions from development completions, ongoing rent escalation, and ongoing cap rate strength in Canada's major urban centers. Our development outlook is positive and has come into much sharper focus in 2018. We expect to allocate CAD 1.2 billion to our urban development program from the beginning of this year to the end of 2022, with approximately CAD 300 million allocated in each of 2018, 2019, and 2020. A much smaller amount in each of 2021 and 2022.
We now expect to complete eight urban development projects within that timeframe, with aggregate GLA at our share of approximately 2.3 million sq ft, 175,000 of which will be in Vancouver, 316,000 in Calgary, 300,000 in Montreal, and the balance, approximately 1.5 million, in Toronto. Our outlook for our carrier hotel assets is also positive and has also come into much sharper focus in 2018. When we acquired 151 Front West in 2009, we took the position publicly that we were not getting into the data center business. The expansion to 905 King West and 250 Front West did not contradict that position. Rather, these facilities were developed as extensions of 151 Front West. Much has changed since 2009, all of it favorable to Allied, owner of 151 Front West and its extensions.
In the broader market, the value of comparable facilities in the U.S. and elsewhere is rising, as evidenced by transactions concluded late last year. Similarly, the revenue-generating potential is increasing significantly and continuously, which, of course, is the main reason values are rising. The example Tom cited of fiber optic cable being laid across Lake Ontario is a very good example of revenue-generating activity increasing even at 151 Front. Operating these assets is not fundamentally different from operating urban office properties designed for people, which was our initial core competence. After nine years of operating 151 Front West very successfully, we know, one, that we have the necessary competence, and two, that the assets complement the remainder of our urban office portfolio in Toronto. We had a very good illustration of this recently with Index Exchange at The Well.
As part of our lease agreement, Index Exchange required that we work with it to establish a direct link to 151 Front, which, of course, we're prepared to do. We didn't do the transaction solely because of that, but it certainly helped. By acquiring 151 Front West, we put ourselves at the Canadian epicenter of an important global trend. Despite repeated suggestions that we monetize our carrier hotel assets in the interest of capital recycling, I believe that disposing of these assets would be both irresponsible and tantamount to squandering an opportunity, the magnitude of which we can't currently quantify. We're now evaluating the possibility of increasing our exposure to assets where urban real estate and communications technology intersect. I believe we can do this credibly and without altering the risk profile of our business. I also believe the NOI margin on this activity could be high.
This will not involve the kind of speculative development we engaged in at 250 Front West, but rather, would be immediately accretive to our earnings per unit and very possibly meaningfully accretive over time to our NAV per unit. Increasing our exposure to assets where urban real estate and communications technology intersect is an exploration we're undertaking. It is not a definitive position we have established. Our goal is to formulate a detailed and credible plan that we can review with our board and with our constituents in due course. To repeat what I said explicitly in 2009, we are definitely not getting into the data business. We are, however, evaluating the possibility of augmenting our extraordinary carrier hotel asset base in a manner that doesn't alter the risk profile of our business.
We continue to have deep confidence in and commitment to our strategy of consolidating and intensifying distinctive urban office space in Canada's major cities. We firmly believe that our strategy continues to be underpinned by the most important secular trends in Canadian and global real estate. We also firmly believe that we have the properties, the people, and the platform necessary to execute this strategy for the ongoing benefit of our shareholders. I hope this has been a comprehensive update for you. Tom and I would now be pleased to answer any questions you may wish to put to us.
Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please turn off the mute function to allow your signal to. Again, if you wish to ask a question, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just an opportunity to signal for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from Frédéric Blondeau at Echelon Wealth Partners. Please go ahead.
Sorry, I was on mute. Thank you, and good morning.
Good morning.
I was looking at the estimated yield on costs on your projects, and it seems like you slightly reduced your estimates for King Portland compared to Q1. I was just wondering if you could comment on that, also I understand it's still a bit early, but what would be the risks here, 6%-7% for a project, given the trends that we're [audio distortion] costs?
At King Portland Centre, Fred, there was a slight reduction, but it was very slight. It may have to do with a timing estimate on the completion of the condominium units, those funds. It was very minor. I know it's still well into the eight-plus range, if I'm not mistaken. As to the projection for The Well, which we made public for the first time in our quarterly report, there are probably two categories of risk associated with that projection as we speak today. Number 1, we're still fixing our costs. They have risen, but I believe our current estimate more than adequately takes account of the escalated cost and more than adequately provides a contingency in relation to this very large project.
The other risk that exists in a projection of this sort would be the ultimate rental rates we're able to achieve on the balance of the office leasing and the ultimate rental rates we're able to achieve on the retail leasing. We are very confident of both. Possibility we may even exceed our own expectations with respect to the remaining leasing. We're very confident about the achievable rental rates on the retail component, of necessity, we won't even begin to execute the retail leasing for a year and a half to two years because, A, we're in a much better position to extract the best possible rent then, and B, retail tenants typically don't pre-lease in the way office tenants do. They want to be much closer to the point of completion before making their commitments.
To summarize that long-winded answer, the categories of risk are basically construction costs and lease rates on the remaining space to be leased in the project. We do think, however, that we're on the verge of taking a very substantial part of that risk out of the office component. We won't be in a position to take that risk out of the retail component for another one and a half to two years. We know from long experience, as do our partners at RioCan, that retail leasing is best executed once the office component of the property is populated and once people understand who's going to populate it. Also in the case of The Well, once people know that the residential component will be populated and the kind of people who will populate it.
Perfect. Thank you. My second question, in regards to your carrier hotel, as you mentioned, looks like you are increasing your exposure there. I was just wondering if you might have a timeline, if you are able to quantify the opportunities you're seeing at the moment.
The best timeline I can provide is we typically have our strategic planning session with our board in December, and this year I think it's scheduled for December 9th or so. Our goal as a management team is to complete the evaluation process in a very systematic and professional way by that time, and then to in terms of decisions we need to make based on that. I wouldn't anticipate anything occurring in this regard in 2018. In terms of the magnitude of the opportunity, I wouldn't at this juncture want to suggest to anyone that it's enormous. It isn't. We do think it's an opportunity to credibly enhance asset base we have without changing the character in any way. I wouldn't look upon this as an enormous initiative. I'd look upon this as an incremental initiative.
What we're most convinced of with respect to our carrier hotel facilities is that it would be ludicrous and ill-conceived to dispose of these assets in the interest of some sort of abstract capital cycling. These are irreplaceable assets, and their ability to generate revenue increases almost continuously. The revenue-generating capability is actually not linked to area or to space. It's linked to interconnection, which requires very little space and requires very little power. Our adamant view in this regard, and I don't think I've left any room for ambiguity here, I've certainly tried not to. Our adamant view is we will not, under any circumstances, dispose of these assets or any portion of them in the interest of capital cycling.
The other thing I would add is, at least thus far, our access to capital, in order to fund our very significant development program responsibly and with great discipline, has been good. I don't expect it to materially diminish. What we did in June, was designed to give ourselves even more latitude going forward in terms of funding that with external sources, be it equity or debt.
Perfect.
That's my go, is it?
I'll leave it there.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question is from Jonathan Kelcher at TD Securities. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Good morning.
Good morning.
Just going back to The Well. I guess the two tenants you're still negotiating with, would it be fair to assume one does for about 10% of the space and the other for 40%?
I don't think you should assume anything in that regard.
Okay. You were three for 41%, if I recall last quarter, right?
It's a slightly different population. As I say, I wouldn't spend too much time trying to figure out the composition between the two tenants with whom we're in negotiation. Actually, I should say, with whom we're finalizing documentation.
Okay. On those tenants, will there be any space in your current portfolio to backfill?
It's a very good question, and the answer is no.
Okay. Then just lastly, when you look at the NOI that you guys are expecting from The Well, how much of that would you expect to come from non-rental income, parking and stuff like that?
Well, just to be clear, especially with respect to our REIT status, it's all rental income. I think what you're alluding to specifically is parking, signage, and there's one other component. Yes, the revenue associated with the MRA facility. We are not prepared at this point, Jonathan, to break that out. I know you're trying to iterate your way to office rents and retail rents, but we're not prepared at this point in time to say anything other than, we have achieved our targeted net effective rental rates for the office component that we've leased or feel is about to be leased. We may be able to exceed those targets somewhat with the follow-on leasing to users with smaller requirements.
We've been very deliberate in not disclosing the rental rates that we've obtained on the office component, nor do we want to disclose the rental rates we're seeking on the residential.
Okay. Fair enough. Just switching it to Telus Sky. The commentary in your letter at the beginning says a mid-2019 delivery, and I think the table on page 33 still says there's a Q1 transfer to rental income. Maybe clarify.
Good pick-up. I think we may have neglected to update that table, but it is mid-2019.
Okay. On the annual NOI you expect from that, can you remind us how much will come from the residential versus the office?
That is something I meant to do and haven't done. Do you know offhand, Cecilia? I don't.
Jonathan, I can call you after the call. I've got it on my desk.
Okay. When that's available.
I can't remember, and I should have looked at it before this call.
No problem. As soon as that transfer capitalizing for the whole development, there's no wait on a lease-up or anything?
The capitalization stops once the construction work is completed. It doesn't have anything to do with the lease-up or the transfer back to the rental portfolio. There is obviously some linkage, but once we have all of the occupancy permits, it gets moved back to the rental portfolio. I don't know if the office and the res will receive the occupancy permits at the same time. If we're still working on the res portion, once the office space is clear for occupancy, there might be a portion that is still capitalized as the res piece is completed, but we'll know once we get closer to that date.
My guess is, I think you're quite right, Cecilia, my guess is the office component will need to be transferred first.
First.
The residential component, because it won't be complete in the same way, will need to be transferred later.
Right.
Because we have to actually build the suites out in order to rent them, and in some cases, we even have to furnish them.
Right. The capitalization on the office, if I had to guess, will end before it ends on the res piece.
Okay. You'd be thinking Q2 2019 would be a fair spot for that?
Yes.
Okay, thanks. I'll turn it back.
Thank you. Our next question is from Mike at Desjardins. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Quick one to start off. Same asset NOI for the first half of this year is slightly in excess of 10%, and you're still sticking with the mid-single digit for the year. I was just wondering if you'd give us a sense of what's slowing in the back half of 2018.
We're expecting same asset NOI to be lower in the second half. Part of it will be 250 Front did have incremental economic occupancy in, I think, September or October of last year. That will still be positive but will be lesser than what we saw in the first half of the year. We're sticking with our solid mid-single, with the expectation that the second half will be lower than the first half.
Okay. Is there anything else, downtime or anything that is contributing significantly to the slowdown, or is it just?
No. That's the largest piece I can think of.
Okay. Just circling back on the augmenting the existing carrier hotel asset base. Is it still safe to assume that this is something that's Toronto-focused and it's on 151 Front, or would it be something that would look at some asset in a different market?
I think the most immediate possibilities would be urban Toronto-focused. There is a more remote possibility that we might look to do something in Montreal that is akin to what we have done in Toronto, I'd have to characterize that as truly remote. We haven't explored it, we haven't evaluated it's one of the things we might think about and evaluate over the remainder of the year. To answer your question, I think most directly, your suspicion that urban Toronto-focused is probably the right one. It really will be, in many respects, linked to 151 Front and 250 Front. The opportunities that exist involve allowing other people to link into those facilities, which has a twofold benefit for us. One, it increases our revenue, obviously, because we charge for the link-up on an ongoing annual basis.
Number two, it makes the facilities more valuable for the users and ultimately, increases the rent we can establish by virtue of having made this denser interconnection. It will very much be urban. It will very much be Toronto. There's a possibility, right now it's only theoretical, that it might include another urban location in Canada. The logical point for that might be Montreal, given our very significant presence there. Again, that's nothing but an idea at this point. It's certainly not risen to the level of a possibility or a probability.
If I caught Tom's comments correctly, there's a fiber cable that's being laid in Lake Ontario that will connect to 151 Front with New York, and that didn't require any CapEx or isn't requiring any capital on your side?
That's correct.
Go ahead.
Sorry, Mike. It's a very good example of how revenue keeps increasing at these facilities without any further requirement for space or power. That linkage will generate revenue for us on a recurring annual basis. It'll also make 151 Front Denser interconnection point for all the users. Yes, Tom's entirely correct. There is no capital cost to Allied associated with this revenue source.
Okay. The potential opportunity that you're evaluating, that'd be similar in terms of being very capital light, or would it create a capital investment on your part?
I think initially.
Okay, that's great. Just the last question from me. Back. Michael, I think you were talking about yield on King & Portland being well into the eights when you factor in the residential component. I was just trying to remember, I think in the property, the estimated total cost, and correct me if I'm wrong, Cecilia, what's the cost to complete the residential component?
What we're showing, if you look at page 33 in the MD&A, what we show there is net of the proceeds of the condos. I think.
The 101 is net of it?
The 101 includes of building out the condo because we do fund our half interest in that, and cost is net of the proceeds. That's what we try to detail in footnote two.
Okay. You take out the cost and the yield on the residential.
Correct.
Yeah.
Then the 8s is where you would have some development, and that would enhance the yield into the 8s.
The yield on cost, the midpoint net of the proceeds of the res is 7.9%. That range tightened this quarter as we completed even more of the construction and the final build-out of this in terms of cost was known. Even the of the sale of proceeds from the res component tightened. If you notice in note two, we originally had CAD 10 million-CAD 15 million, now it's CAD 10 million-CAD 11 million.
Okay. That's great. Thanks very much.
Okay, no problem.
Thank you. If you find that your question has already been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star two. Also, as a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, you may press star one. We'll take our next question from Jenny Ma at BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning, everyone.
Morning.
Marcus, my questions on the carrier hotels has mostly been answered, but when we think about the magnitude, you stressed that it wasn't very big. Would it be fair to quantify it as being somewhat similar to where the mission-critical weighting is in your NOI, assuming you get some portfolio growth over time, and this is really just incremental, so it's not really going from 18% to 25%, for example?
I think I agree with the thrust of your comment. It's actually difficult now to really answer your question in any kind of informed way other than perhaps intuitively. What I want to make sure of is that no one sees this as a large game-changing potential initiative. It is not. The notion of incremental is the much better one. Using the current, say, 15% of our NOI as something that we can sustain going forward in the context of significant growth in the remainder of our portfolio is not a bad way to think about it. I don't think it would be dramatically more. Certainly I don't see 15 becoming 25 or even 20.
Okay
with the passage of time. Perhaps we could keep pace with our growth and have the carrier hotel asset base grow at the same rate as we expect the remainder of our portfolio to grow. That might not be an unrealistic or an inappropriate guess, and it might at this point.
Okay. That makes sense. Moving back to your comment about the two categories when you're looking at the returns from The Well. The second question, the rental rate on the balance of the office and retail lease, did you assume the 30% that has leased or the 80%? I'm just trying to figure out what the magnitude of the unknown office portion is.
The 30% is, I believe, bang on our net effective rent estimate target or pro forma. The remaining 50% could very modestly exceed it.
Okay.
The ultimate, I guess it would be 20%, could exceed it somewhat materially because there really is tremendous pressure on rental rates now. The impact of exceeding our projections with respect to office revenue is not huge. It is something that we think is reasonable to expect. I think if I sort of get your question, the impact of the rent escalation we're seeing in the marketplace will be felt. To some extent, we assumed it in what we've already achieved, and fortunately, we've achieved it with the result that our office projection is based much more on data today than it was when we made it.
Okay. My next question is probably for Tom as it relates to TELUS Sky. You've maintained some pretty good occupancy rates in Calgary, all things considered, with the market. I'm just thinking that given the amount of vacancy that's available, what is it that sets the space apart as far as pre-leasing and what tenants are looking for when they've got so much choice in the market? What does that differentiate TELUS Sky when they think about pre-leasing the space as opposed to seeing what's out there currently?
One of the advantages we have, Jenny Ma, at TELUS Sky is the relatively small floor plates. Tenants who are looking for 20,000, actually 12,000 square feet can occupy a single floor and not have to worry about sharing a floor with others. That's a big factor in Calgary, which is a city with very large floor plates and large size tenants. We can focus on a group that can't find identity as well in the larger towers elsewhere in downtown Calgary. Happening in our existing portfolio is that we're able to convert small spaces, again, setting us apart from most of the market, and we've had some success maintaining pretty good occupancy levels. TELUS Sky is kind of the same. Plus, it's going to be architecturally unique and distinct in that marketplace. That does have appeal, too.
Okay, great. That's helpful. I'll turn it back. Thanks.
Thank you. Howard Leung at Veritas Investment Research. Please go ahead.
Thanks, and good morning.
Good morning.
I just wanted to reconcile the comments made on the development in the letter. Thanks for giving us a little budget and the table on page 33. Michael, you had mentioned that eight projects are expected, and there's seven in the table, but I don't see one for Vancouver. I'm wondering if one is in Vancouver for development.
Well, it's a good question. I think the reconciliation is made in this way. 400 West Georgia is not in our PUD category. In fact, we don't own it at all as we speak. We're providing Westbank with funding in relation to the development, and we have an obligation to become a 50% co-owner on completion, subject to certain requirements, at cost. It is in the numbers that I aggregate, both in my letter to unitholders in my presentation today, and I think even in the press release we issued when we did the Build-Operate-Transfer deal in June. We were including 400 West Georgia as one of those developments, even though it isn't today our property or included in our property under development table.
Okay. No, that makes sense. Just on the capital, CAD 1.2 billion for the development. Do you also have an idea in the next few years of capital you'd like to allocate to redevelopments and intensification?
It's a good question. I think the amount that we'll be allocating to either upgrade activity or redevelopment will be relatively modest in comparison to developments, to CAD 2 billion. For example, we will upgrade 468 King West probably in the next 18 months, but the amount that we'll allocate to that will literally be negligible in relation to the CAD 1.2 billion. There's nothing else I'm aware of now that would require a significant capital outlay on our part. The upgrades in Montreal are literally complete. There's some work left to be done on Nordelec in terms of construction, but that'll be done by year-end or early next year at the latest. We do have to do some work on 468 King West, which is a great opportunity to upgrade that building and lease it under the current set of rents that are achievable in the marketplace.
That's about it. I think the big capital outlays for Allied in the next five years are going to be all made in relation to pure development activity or the activity that's included in our PUD table.
Right. That's very helpful. Then just a question about the Index Exchange clients or tenants that is going to The Well. You mentioned that there is a direct link to the 151 Front facility. Any idea of the TI square foot that we can expect for that tenant?
Well, just to be clear, what we agreed to is that we will work with the tenant to establish a direct connection to 151 Front. That particular cost will be a cost borne by the tenant. Not by the landlord, and certainly not by Allied as the owner of 151 Front. It's a cost that the tenant will bear. Having the ability to create, pardon me, to 151 Front is an enormous advantage for this particular tenant, given what they do and given, if you will, the internet intensity on which their core business is based. That will be a cost for the tenant. The actual improvement allowance we're providing to Index Exchange is consistent with our practice in that building. It is the normal level and not necessarily different from any other tenant that will be going into the building.
Okay. No, thanks. That's great. I'll turn it back.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question is from Mario Saric at Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Mario, did you change banks?
Apparently, I have.
Congratulations.
Apparently, I go back and forth between Deutsche and.
Sorry.
Just back to The Well, just a couple of quick questions. I may have missed it, but in terms of the costing of the cost, what percentage of the cost today? Which cost would remain variable to be fixed on?
We're very advanced, Mario, on fixing the cost of the office component. I don't know the exact percentage. I should. In terms of the retail, we're not as far advanced because we're continuing to work closely with RioCan in formulating the most compelling vision possible for that retail space. We haven't fixed that cost. In terms of its relationship to the total cost, it's not that great. We're less advanced in fixing the cost of the retail component. We're obviously very advanced in fixing the cost of the underground component. We're well down the road. We had hoped to get to 85% of the total project by this point in time. We're not there yet. We have made good progress, and we have had some success in value-engineering the project without compromising it in any way, shape, or form.
Got it. Okay. The target return of 6%-7%, I recognize that the project is viewed in totality. In terms of the individual components, retail versus office, is it fair to say that the target return for each individual asset class would fall within that range as well?
Pretty close. Retail space costs more per foot to create, of course, the rental revenue you can generate is higher. Office less, the revenue you can generate per foot is lower. If I had to guess, Mario, we haven't looked at this, I think the return on the retail is probably a bit higher, the return on the office is probably a bit lower, relatively speaking. We have, of course, the enhancement that exists by virtue of the third-party digital signage on the corner, which is very material. Whether you attribute that to the office or the retail is almost academic. You have the underground revenue, which would be the parking and the revenue from the [Enwave facility] .
If I had to guess, if I'm looking back on some of our earlier pro formas, I think to the extent you can actually segment the cost between the different uses, retail is probably a bit more productive than office, at least initially. Over time, I'm not so sure.
Got it. Okay. Just on the Index Exchange tenant itself, it's clear in terms of the reasons why it was interested in locating at the project. It looks like they're coming from a couple of different spots in Toronto, so there's a bit of a consolidation there. From Allied's perspective or from JV's perspective, what was it about Index Exchange that you found particularly interesting? Anything within kind of the composition of the workforce that you found interesting, or because of the overall Class 1 thesis or the urban thesis coming out?
Well, there would be actually several factors. One of the most interesting things to us is, of the four tenants we've either completed transactions with or are working on transactions with now, it was the one with whom we had no preexisting relationship. That in and of itself made Index Exchange interesting to us. The second thing that interested me and the team a great deal was what Index Exchange does. It's not easy to understand in technical terms, but I think in terms of business essence, what they've created, and they've created this on a global scale, is a stock exchange for ad impressions on the internet. Which is a very big thing, and as we all know, is where the advertising revenues and the advertising, if you will, space or impact is occurring.
It's not occurring in traditional TV or newspaper or magazine perhaps the way it used to. What they do, interested us a great deal. What also interested us is that they are self-funded. That is to say, they have built this very significant business without debt, without venture capital participation, and without prior access to capital. It's really quite impressive that they have the kind of earnings that allowed them to build this business, as I say, on a self-funded basis. Finally, we believe that Index Exchange is exactly the kind of organization we work with best, exactly the kind of organization we want to be associated with, and exactly the kind of organization that can actually be additive to and make a contribution to the community at Kingsbury Island.
It was really a combination of all those things, and in no small part, the fact that we had a preexisting relationship with them. We think it's going to be a great partnership, and we think they're going to make a great contribution to the community at Kingsbury Island.
Yeah. It sounds like a good fit. Okay, two more questions, just one on 151 and then on the carrier hotel augmentation. Just on 151, coming from the link between Toronto and New York and the additional interconnect room, is there a way you can provide a quantification of the potential revenue upside from that adventure at this point?
I think we would be loathe to do that at this point, Mario. I think it's probably fair to say, Tom, that it's not gigantic, but it's not insignificant either. I think the longer-term benefit of having a denser interconnection environment will be much greater than the short-term benefit of recurring annual revenue for the connection. It's not a game-changing revenue augmentation, but it's one that we didn't even recognize as being possible three years ago. It's one that doesn't take up space or require capital from us. I think we'd be loathe to. What we might do, Mario, going forward, and Cecilia, Tom, and I need to think about this. We might want to better segment the revenue components of our carrier hotel facilities.
The biggest segmentation, I believe, would be between what we call conventional rental revenue and what American entities usually refer to as interconnection revenue. This would fall, obviously, in the interconnection revenue area. That's probably where the greatest growth rates are, because conventional rental revenue is linked to square footage, although hopefully the rent you can charge on a per square foot basis rises dramatically in relation to the interconnection density. I think going forward, certainly in 2019 and beyond, we'll try to segment these revenue components because it is relevant in terms of gauging the ultimate productivity of these assets over time. That's, I think, as helpful as I can be on that subject.
Okay. Just a related question and my last question. When we're looking at the thinking about the augmentation of the carrier hotel portfolio, as you alluded to, it may involve additional connections into 151 Front. When we think about the goal of real estate, we think about supply and demand. Generally, as supply increases, rental rates come down, or there's an impact on rental rates. It seems, based on your commentary, that's a little bit different when it comes to this type of asset, given the interconnection kind of environment it's created. As more buildings or more entities are able to connect to 151 Front, what is the impact to the tenants at 151 Front?
It actually means they're sitting on and have access to and benefit from an ever-increasing mass of interconnections. That makes the facility more valuable to them, and it almost certainly makes us able to charge more on a per square foot basis or per kilowatt-hour basis, however you want to measure it, going forward. Yes. Again, what I should say as well here is one of the things we want to examine is whether indeed there's any downside diminishment that flows from that particular augmentation of the asset. Does it become less in any way? Are people less incented to locate there if they can connect there? We believe the answer to that is emphatically no. We believe the answer to that is the opposite.
We need to do a lot more work, and evaluate this a lot more carefully than we have, before we can draw definitive conclusions in that regard.
Okay. Well, thanks for the color as always.
Okay. You're welcome.
Thank you. Our next question is from Matt Kornack from National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.
Good morning, guys. Keeping with that theme, can you speak to what the direct connectivity in the existing portfolio to 151 Front, other than the Index Exchange deal, are there others within existing portfolio that also have direct connectivity? That was part of the goal of this whole hotel idea, was that you could offer ancillary services to your portfolio, correct?
There are other tenants of ours, they're all consequential in terms of space utilization. There are other tenants of ours for whom that has been a differentiator, in dealing with us. Some of the tenants who are at QRC West, for sure. What I don't know off the top of my head is the magnitude of that. Of the 4.8 million square feet we have in Toronto, I couldn't tell you how much-
No, fair enough
that kind of access. I think I can say it's enough to be meaningful, but it certainly wouldn't be anything approaching 50%. It would be more like 10%.
Okay.
Of our
An important selling, I guess.
Yes. For the right tenant, it's a difference-maker. Just as parking is for the right tenant, a difference-maker. It's not a difference-maker for every tenant. That's for sure.
Makes sense. Just wanted to clarify the wording on, you mentioned allocate CAD 1.2 billion of capital to the development pipeline. If I understand that correctly, based on the chart on page 33, that's the total cost. That's not cost to complete. Correct? It's a lesser number that you have to spend over that period of time because you've already invested to date.
Correct. That's the total.
Okay.
Total cost from January 1, 2018 for the following five years.
Presumably, given the estimated cost to complete numbers, and we're missing a large one in the form of King-Spadina. Presumably you could leverage fund all of that and still be at levels well below your peers on a debt-to-total assets basis.
Yes. Yes, we could. Cecilia and her team have those calculations quite carefully. If my memory serves, Cecilia, we could finance debt and stay below 40%.
Correct.
Okay. That's meaningful. Just one clarification, comment on something that came up earlier on same-property NOI growth. If I understand, Cecilia, it's not that there's a slowing in that, it's just that the prior quarter periods are stronger.
That's correct.
Okay. Makes sense.
We still expect it to be strong in the second half, but not as strong as in the first half.
From an occupancy standpoint, you're at a cyclical high in Montreal. Toronto's essentially full once you strip out 250 Front. Calgary, we'll see what happens there. At this point, the rent growth story plus the development upside. Is that a fair characterization?
I think it is a good characterization. The only thing I would add is there still are some occupancy gains and material revenue growth items in Montreal. The story is rent growth for the foreseeable future, development activity focused on Toronto, not exclusively in Toronto for the foreseeable future. I think Montreal will contribute throughout the balance of 2018 and the better part of 2019 to organic growth, through both added occupancy and the, particularly Nordelec, where we're seeing an industrial tenant base give way to an office tenant base with a very material increase in net rent per sq ft.
It seems like the commentary prior to this, that Montreal was largely an occupancy story, and you've opened it up, it sounds like you're more confident now about rent growth in that market. Is that fair?
Yes. Yes, we are. Two years ago, we would not have projected rent growth in Montreal. We are seeing rent growth. It's not dramatic, and it's certainly nothing compared to what we're seeing in Toronto and Vancouver. There is rent growth in that market, for the right product, definitely.
Okay, great. Thanks guys .
Thank you.
Our next question is from Chris Couprie at CIBC. Please go ahead.
Hi there. Two quick one. First on the fiber optic cable link. How exactly did this opportunity come up, guys, and is there an opportunity to do this with other cities? The second question is just acquisition market, if you can kind of. Thanks.
Well, I'll deal with the acquisition, and then Tom can address the cable question. We believe that we will continue to have opportunities to do smaller infill acquisitions over the remainder of the year. They may not prove to be very consequential in terms of aggregate acquisition cost. We continue to see respectable infill opportunities. The first transaction between now and the end of the year is small in my opinion, although they come when you least expect them. I would expect at the end of the day, 2018 will be a somewhat modest year in terms of acquisition volume. The acquisitions we're able to make are really helpful infills to existing concentrations, and that's something that has always been hugely beneficial to Allied, going forward. The other, they're all contributing to our earnings on a per unit basis, modestly because they're modest acquisitions.
We're not buying low-yielding assets that have future opportunity attached to them. We're buying assets that are yielding quite well today, that augment existing concentrations. Tom?
With respect to the lake cable, it's not new. Groups have approached us with this kind of thing before. The group that we've dealt with now hasn't required us to participate in the cost of laying the cable, where other groups were looking for us to help fund it, as well as connect to 151 Front. We didn't really like that idea. This particular group has had really good experience in this. We're viable. It didn't cost us anything to participate. That's why we've gone along with it this time.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you. It appears there are no more questions at this time. I'd like to hand it back to Chair Emory for any additional or closing remarks. Please go ahead.
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