Good afternoon, and welcome to the Curaleaf Second Quarter 2021 Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Carlos Matrazzo, Head of Investor Relations.
Please go ahead.
Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Clearleaf Holdings' 2nd Quarter 2021 Conference Call. Today, we're joined by Boris Jordan, Executive Chairman Joe Lustarti, Executive Vice Chairman Joe Bayern, Chief Executive Officer Neil Davidson, Chief Operating Officer and Ranjan Kavya, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that the comments on today's call will include forward looking statements within the meaning of Canadian and United States security laws, which by their nature involve estimates, projections, plans, goals, forecasts and assumptions, including the successful integration of acquisitions and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or outcomes to differ materially from those expressed in the forward looking statements Concert material factors or assumptions that were applied in drawing a conclusion or making a forecast in such statements. These forward looking statements speak only as of the date of this conference call and should not be relied upon as predictions of future events. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by applicable law.
Additional information about the material factors and assumptions forming the basis of the forward looking statements And risk factors can be found in the company's filings and press releases on SEDAR and the Canadian Securities Exchange. During today's conference call, Curaleaf will refer to non IFRS measures that do not have any standardized meaning Provided by IFRS, such as adjusted EBITDA, the definitions of which may be found in our earnings press release. Please note that all financial information is provided in U. S. Dollars unless otherwise indicated.
With that, I'd like now to turn the call over to Executive Chairman, Maurice Jordan.
Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for our 2nd quarter earnings results call. Before I begin, I want to welcome Ranjan Kalia, our new Chief Financial Officer, having held multiple financial positions at CPG and Technology Ramjohn brings a breadth of experience to the team and we are very happy to have him join the company. I also would like to thank Michael Carliotti, our Former CFO for all of his contributions. We wish him a comp and speedy recovery. Our record second quarter results Reflect the continued success of PURELY's strategy of unrivaled reach, scale and strategic positioning in the U.
S. Cannabis market as we once again delivered all time high levels of sales and adjusted EBITDA profitability. We also acquired an unmatched presence in Europe, which provides us another major long term growth lever for our business and establishes Curaleaf as the global pure play cannabis market leader by revenue and geographic reach. During the Q2, we delivered on our guidance with total revenue rising to 312,000,000 equivalent to sequential growth of 20% and year on year growth of 166%. Excluding our new Curalief International business, Which we started consolidating for the first time this quarter, our revenue increased to $307,000,000 In terms of driving profitability, we posted record results here as well.
Our group adjusted EBITDA margin reached 27%, increasing approximately 300 basis points sequentially. In our core U. S. Business, our adjusted EBITDA margin expanded to 28%, up 400 basis points sequentially as we benefited from our leading scale and captured operating efficiencies. Not only are we delivering impressive margin gains, but we remain focused on growth and the major opportunities that lie ahead.
Executing on our national strategy, we have built a deep operational capability on the ground in all the key U. S. State cannabis markets, and we are Early entrance into many more that will become relevant contributors to revenue and profitability over time. Today, we operate in 5 States that contribute at least $100,000,000 in annualized revenue and 2 more will be joining this group in the next several months. The other 16 states are markets with tremendous potential where we have established a solid presence and where medical and adult use cannabis programs continue to evolve.
To further strengthen our U. S. Business, in May, we agreed to acquire Los Suenos, a 66 Acre Outdoor Grow Operation in Colorado to help us better serve the $2,000,000,000 plus annual medical and adult use cannabis market in Colorado, the 2nd largest market in the U. S. Today.
Upon closing this transaction, we'll significantly expand our cultivation capacity, boost our profitability in the state as well as integrate vertically and position us as a leading low cost producer in the U. S. We expect this transaction to close soon. At the federal level last month, Senator Schumer introduced the long awaited comprehensive federal cannabis bill. PuraLeaf has led industry efforts to push for sector reform, including expanded access to banking, stock exchange uplisting, sensible taxation And Regulation and Social Equity Initiatives.
There is unprecedented support for cannabis reform across the political spectrum and by multiple industry and minority groups. This should provide strong motivation for Democrats and Republicans to negotiate and agree to a final version of the bill. We expect plenty of debate around the details in the coming months and believe some level of form, which will minimally include banking and investor safeguards Will be passed before the midterm elections. The wide scope of the bill underlines the importance of having a long term flexible strategy in place, Taking into account the various potential outcomes, our long term strategy and multiple planning horizons have very much taken this into consideration. For example, our investment in Los Vegas cultivation facility provides us with very low cost efficient high Quality supply of biomass for both our needs and those of wholesale customers in the state today, but is ultimately capable of supplying biomass on a regional scale in the event of full interstate commerce.
Also at the federal level last month, Congress approved removal of roadblocks to scientific research into cannabis, noting the potential therapeutic effects of the plant and maintained an existing provision that shields state and medical marijuana laws from intervention by the Justice Department. Just as importantly for near term growth, state level regulatory liberalization trends are accelerating. In New Jersey, we anticipate that adult use sales will begin in late 2021 and to fully ramp up into early 2022. We look forward to seeing the draft regulations for adult use sales this month and have been preparing to address this market with a full suite of products. Our new cultivation and processing facility is harvesting regularly and we intend to maintain our leadership position in the state.
We also look forward to opening our 3rd dispensary in Bordertown, just south of Trenton this month. In Connecticut, we anticipate adult use sales will begin the Q2 of 2022. We have commissioned a significant expansion of our cultivation manufacturing facilities, or in process to secure additional retail sites in advance of the adult use program commencement. We look forward to A new customer set and maintaining our leading position. In New York, we expect adult use sales to begin by early 2023.
We are waiting for the Senate to confirm appointees to begin working on the regulations. Whole flower, long demanded by New York patients and expected by future consumers, And we'll ramp up additional capacity as we get a clear view on the regulations and timing. The combined TriState region where we have a leading market presence has a population of 32,000,000, receives 100 of millions of tourists every year And there's a potential estimated annual market opportunity of around $8,000,000,000 Given our robust capacity, Retail network and strong brand identity, we're uniquely positioned to address this combined market. The potential in the Northeast Also extends beyond these three states. By 2023, it is estimated that Pennsylvania and Maryland where Curlyba's strong presence We'll likely be among the next major states in the region to approve adult use cannabis.
With a combined population of around 19,000,000, Once these additional states become adult use, they are estimated to represent another incremental $3,000,000,000 annual market opportunity. In the 6 largest Northeast markets according to forecast data from BDSA, Curalief has today the number one market share and will be one of the main beneficiaries of these markets ramp up. Looking beyond our market leading U. S. Presence, Another major milestone during the Q2 was Qurely's entry into the global cannabis market with the successful completion in April of our acquisition of Demac, The largest vertically integrated independent cannabis company in Europe, which has now been rebranded and consolidated as Curalief International.
We remain very positive on developments in Europe and its growth potential. Overall, we have never been more optimistic on the near and long term outlooks for the business. Based on the trends we see today, we are on track to hit the midpoint of our full year IFRS revenue guidance of $1,200,000,000 to $1,300,000,000 for our U. S. Operations.
Overall, Qurely is still in the early innings of an industry that has tremendous potential for growth, And we have high confidence that our national strategy and solid execution will seize the opportunity and create significant value for shareholders. With that, let me turn the call over to our CEO, Joe Baer.
Thank you, Boris, and good afternoon, everyone. What can I say? It was a great quarter for Curaleaf and the cannabis industry as a whole. We are extremely happy with our record results for the quarter as it is definitive proof that our strategy is working. I am also incredibly excited about the significant advances We are continuing to make in product commercialization and research and development.
Our capabilities in these areas are unmatched in the industry and will continue to act as one of our pillars of long term competitive advantage. I'll provide more detail on some of our most exciting initiatives later in the call. Let me start my walk through at the retail level. We continue selectively expanding our market leading U. S.
Footprint. As we move into our next phase of retail expansion, We continue to focus on quality over quantity and are only adding premium and flagship stores in the right locations. We opened 5 new dispensaries in the quarter, including 2 in Pennsylvania, 1 in Illinois, A second location in New Jersey and our first adult use store in Maine, followed by another opening in Wells, Maine on July 23, bringing our total U. S. Dispensary count to 108 as of today.
During the remainder of 2021, we expect to open an additional 8 new Quelief retail dispensaries across Arizona, Florida, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. We have steadily gained market share in Florida And we plan to build on this with new store openings and expect to have a total of 60 dispensaries in the state by the end of 2022. As we've mentioned in the past, we are also in the process of rebranding all of our dispensaries to reflect a more contemporary, The welcoming look, which we believe is relevant to our legacy medical patients as well as adult use consumers. We expect the rebranding to be complete by the end of September. Our operating and financial metrics on the retail side were very positive with 2nd quarter retail revenue growing 18% sequentially.
Including both adult use and medical use, The total number of transactions was up 17% during the Q2. On the medical side of the business, the total number of patients continue to grow, expanding during the month of June by 7% from March, while maintaining average order value. At the wholesale level, we grew the number of U. S. Wholesale accounts by 9% during the 2nd quarter To surpass 2,000 active accounts, which helped drive sequential revenue growth of approximately 24%.
Our wholesale distribution platform is another of our pillars of sustainable competitive advantage. As a CPG focused company, we continue to believe in the power of brands and we continue to invest in a portfolio That reaches the widest array of cannabis consumers. This quarter, we introduced the Rolling Stone Select Partnership In Nevada and we launched the B Noble brand in Massachusetts and Maryland, leveraging strategic partnerships and relationships to drive select and cure lead visibility and preference for new demographics. In terms of cultivation capacity, We began harvesting from our new cultivation centers in Florida, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Maine and New Jersey. With these expansions, we have now brought online nearly 250,000 square feet of our expected annual expansion of 275,000 Square Feet of Flower Canopy during the first half of the year.
We expect to commission an additional 40,000 square feet in the second half. This additional capacity We'll not only serve as a catalyst for accelerated growth, but will also help improve our operating margins in the second half of the year. We are also in the process of building additional capacity that will be commissioned in 2022 in a number of key states, including New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida and Pennsylvania. We are excited about our prospects for the balance of the year. For example, in Florida, we expect to continue gaining market share driven by the continued expansion of our cultivation and new store openings in the second half of the year.
In New Jersey, our 3rd dispensary will open imminently and our new cultivation site will help ramp up our wholesale business in the state. In Massachusetts, we expect that our wholesale business We'll continue to drive growth and in Maryland, we are in the process of moving our dispensaries to superior locations and should benefit from a full quarter of a larger cultivation and processing site in the state. Moving on to product commercialization and research and development, we have a number of exciting initiatives underway. As we said in previous calls to investors, We are in the final stages of pilot testing a proprietary new extraction technology, which should substantially bring down our cost of production, which we expect to roll out in early 2022. This quarter, we will launch our improved Classic Gummy and Nano Gummy utilizing innovative technology to provide consumers the ultimate choice and control over the way they enjoy their experience.
Also, we continue to bring fresh innovation to the squeeze line, including our latest proprietary nanotechnology, which is even faster acting than our current nanotechnology along with new flavors to add variety to the line. We have also been working on developing innovation formulations and unique delivery technologies and exploring the potential benefits of other cannabinoids such as CBN, THCV and CBG through multiple clinical studies. We expect to bring products to market that incorporate these cannabinoids in the second half of twenty twenty one. In addition, we are actively developing many innovative products within the vape, concentrate, All ready to drink beverage and topical categories that will be launched in 2022. When we think of innovation, we think of terms of little innovation and big innovation.
We've launched over 187 new products over the past 18 months, the majority of which were Little I. Little I are products to fill out our portfolio assortment across our footprint, improving flavor, texture and so forth. Squeeze was our first example of a big eye, where we developed proprietary technology and packaging To bring a new product to the market. Now that we have ramped up our research and development capabilities, our innovation funnel It's full of exciting new technologies and form factors that will provide a steady stream of new products over the next 18 months. Moving on to our European operation, Curaleaf International.
While still a small contributor To revenue, it continues making important strides. In the United Kingdom, we launched our 2nd strain of medical cannabis flower to meet the significant growth in patient demand. We have witnessed a 2 50% increase in patient numbers in the UK Since the launch of our first medical cannabis flower product in March of this year. Also, as announced in June, We entered into a strategic partnership in Germany with a pharmaceutical company called Zambon, a leader in the treatment of Parkinson's disease. We launched Uvego, a co branded medical cannabis product manufactured by Curaleaf International in Spain and distributed throughout Germany.
The product was recently adopted by 3 specialized pain clinics. In Spain, Our pharma lab, Medalchemy, received additional EU GMP certification for the processing of medical cannabis flower. It can now manufacture and distribute medical cannabis products for commercialization and investigational purposes. Beyond Europe, we exported 1.1 tons of medical cannabis flower to Israel, Only the 2nd company to do so under the new regulation. The product has been very well received and is on track to being sold out by the end of August.
Israel has over 100,000 patients currently and is adding a further 3,000 each month. Finally, Portugal and Malta are moving forward with their respective political processes around possible legalization of adult use cannabis. Spain is moving forward with the discussion on the medical cannabis program and the French Supreme Court gave a very important judgment establishing the legality of CBD Wellness Products in France. I'd like to close with some important updates on other things we're doing as the industry leader in matters of social responsibility. In our initiative to do business with cannabis brands, ancillary suppliers and advocacy organizations From underrepresented communities, we ended the quarter with 63 partners.
In addition, We launched our B. Noble pre rolls in July in Massachusetts and Maryland with a portion of sales dedicated to funding local organizations Dedicated to advancing social equity and providing opportunities to those directly impacted by the war on drugs. On the environmental front, I'm pleased to share that Curaleaf has hired MAP Collective, a female funded Now, let me turn the call over to Raja.
Thank you, Joe, And thank you, Boris, for a warm welcome and good afternoon to everyone. As Boris and Joe mentioned, During the quarter, we achieved many financial milestones. Revenue reached
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$312,000,000 which represented sequential growth of 20% and year over year growth of 166%. We recorded retail revenue of $222,000,000 sequential growth of 18.4% and year over year growth of 2 35%. Detailed revenue represented 71% of total revenue. Our strong sequential growth was primarily driven by New customer acquisition and increase in repeat customers. Additionally, we benefited from the opening of 5 new stores in selective locations and from increased e commerce penetration.
Wholesale revenue grew 23.7% sequentially and 168% year over year to $89,000,000 and represented 29% of total revenue. This growth was driven by the addition of new accounts and an increase in sales productivity. Gross margin increased to approximately 50%, increasing 6 69 basis points year on year. On a sequential basis, gross margin increased 34 basis points. This was possible due to an increase in yields at the existing cultivation facilities and new state of art facilities coming online during the quarter.
We expect to continue benefiting from these trends in the second half of the year. SG and A expense was $88,000,000 Or 28.2 percent of consolidated revenue, a 2 59 basis points reduction versus 30.8% in the 1st quarter. Looking solely at our U. S. Business, SG and A was $81,000,000 or 26.4 percent of revenue And even greater sequential reduction in SG and A of 4 35 basis points as we work diligently to capture operating efficiencies across all business processes.
Adjusted EBITDA Reached $84,400,000 up 34.7% sequentially and 2 0 1% year over year, primarily driven by strong revenue growth and increased operating leverage. On a consolidated basis, Adjusted EBITDA margin reached 27%, up 2 97 basis points sequentially. Our core U. S. Business saw an even greater gain reaching an adjusted EBITDA margin of 28.1%, up 400 basis points sequentially.
With regard to full year adjusted EBITDA margin for our U. S. Business, We expect it to be in line with our prior guidance. In addition, Curaleaf International margins are expected to have slightly dilutive impact on consolidated margins, but we expect this impact to significantly decline in the 4th quarter. Provision for taxes in the 2nd quarter was $42,600,000 as compared to $30,700,000 in the 1st quarter, primarily due to higher gross profit.
Consolidated second quarter net loss allocated to Quralift was $7,000,000 which includes closing expenses and one time charges related to the EMAC transaction. The U. S. Business 2nd quarter net loss significantly decreased from $17,000,000 in the 1st quarter to $1,800,000 We continue to maintain a strong balance sheet with cash and cash equivalents of $334,000,000 up from $315,000,000 in the prior quarter. At the end of the second quarter, Our outstanding debt net of unamortized debt discounts was $338,000,000 We plan to explore opportunities To refinance our debt facilities at the first opportunity in January 2022 and we expect to bring down the cost of our debt.
Net capital expenditures during the quarter were $41,900,000 Investments were focused on expanding cultivation and processing capacity as well as selectively increasing Our retail presence in strategic markets. Capital expenditures for full year 2021 Are expected to be approximately $140,000,000 as we continue to invest in cultivation, processing and our detailed footprint in order to prepare for continued strong revenue growth in 2022 and beyond. In closing, We are pleased with our financial performance this quarter. On an organic basis, we delivered 18% sequential revenue growth and 400 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin improvement. We expect this trend to continue in the coming quarters, which will help us drive operating cash flow in the Q2 of the year.
Now, let me turn the call back to Joe.
Thank you, Ranjan. In closing, I would like to thank the entire Cheerioleve team For their continued focus on execution, we remain committed to growing our top line, expanding profitability, Adding cultivation capacity and developing innovative new formulations and form factors backed by science. And as always, with a focus on creating shareholder value. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator to open the line for questions.
We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question today comes from Pablo Zulanyc with Cantor Gerald?
Thank you. Boris, I guess just one question first. You have spoken in the past of trying to get ready for interstate trade and you made that acquisition in Colorado. But at the same time, You are expanding capacity aggressively at the state level in the East. I think in the past you've said that in the long term, Cultivation is to MCCB may not be so economical in a market of interstate trade.
So I'm just trying to put the 2 things together, right? You believe that by the midterms, we have federal level reform, but I'm guessing you don't expect Interstate trade there to happen, right? Could this still be 4, 5 years out, so hence you're expanding these. Can you just reconcile the 2 things? Thank you.
Yes. I think, Pablo, you have it exactly right. We do anticipate to have significant reform by April of next year. However, we believe that's going to be more around safe banking, tax reform and social justice issues. We don't believe the federal government at this point in time is ready for full interstate commerce.
I mean, it could happen. There's always a risk, but we don't believe that that's what's going to happen given We're pretty close to the process and involved in it, pretty intimately. That's where our thinking is at the moment. And given that, we have Incredible demand that's about to come up on the East Coast. I mean, New York, as we said in our report, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, what we think will be soon, Pennsylvania and Maryland, all of whom represent about $11,000,000 to 12,000,000 To $12,000,000,000 of potential market demand, we need to be prepared for that.
So we are expanding In New Jersey, we have already expanded. We're expanding a bit more. We're expanding in New York. We're expanding in Connecticut. But the margins coming from those businesses are so great that we expect the payback on those growth facilities to be reasonably quickly.
So we are preparing for those markets. We have to be able to supply those markets. We want to maintain our market share. And we also believe that the interstate comp
I just squeeze one quick one. Just an update in terms of the Petitivo, landscape in Florida and Pennsylvania. In the case of Florida, we are hearing about some operators doing buy one get one free type of promotions For more than a week, in the case of Pennsylvania, some of the retailers there are telling me that they've been able to buy in mainstream and lower end of the flower market At lower prices, right, which means that there's some pressure there in terms of supply increasing faster than demand. Just quick color in terms of Florida and Pennsylvania competitive landscape.
Yes. So both of those markets are different and that well, they're similar in that they're both medical, they're different and that Florida has more cultivation capacity at this point and is more developed than Pennsylvania. We have not seen pricing pressures in Pennsylvania at this point in time. We feel that that market continues to grow and continues to expand. However, even though Florida is growing, 1st of all, the summer months tend to be slower in Florida because a lot of people do leave the state And they do come back in the fall and we have seen some pricing pressures in Florida.
However, we continue to see very robust EBITDA margins out of our Florida business. So it hasn't affected our margin at this point in time, but there's definitely competition for market share in Florida at this point in time. The 3 main operators, Trulief, Curaleaf and AltMed, and Certara are seem to be competing for the tough spots. So But I do think that, that isn't going to get out of hand in any way. And again, I want to reiterate the margins are still very strong.
Got it. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Vivien Azer with Cowen.
Hi, thank you. As you guys work on optimizing your cultivation and putting these New processes in place. Can you just give us an update on how you're thinking about your gross margin progression from here? Obviously, very nice improvement in the gross margin the quarter, but relative to some peers, there is an opportunity and in particular given kind of the novel approach to a more low cost focused methodology. So any
Sure. Vivian, hi. We are continuing to expand our gross margin. We anticipate Meeting the targets that we outlined in the beginning of the year, which is a 30% EBITDA margin and About a 52% to 54% eventually gross margin. Right now, we're just at 50%.
One needs to remember that Curaleaf, unlike some of our competitors, has a much wider footprint. And now we have the European business. And so It's just taking us a little bit longer to get there, but the sheer size and growth of the business really compensates for that. And so At the end of the day, I've always stipulated that for me growth is a priority. I believe that getting our brands out there On a both national and global basis is very important, but we are very, very comfortable that we will be operating at a 30 plus Percent EBITDA margin next year throughout the year.
Understood. Thank you. And Joe, my follow-up For you please, I believe I heard you say you're targeting 60 dispensaries in Florida by the end of 2022. You also commented on new door additions in the back half of 2021. Can you just offer any more color on kind of the phasing of bridging the gap?
I believe you have 37 doors in Florida today. Thank you.
Yes. I think as I mentioned on my prerecorded comments, we've really Started to focus on quality as well as quantity of new store openings in Florida. As we've already alluded to on this call, it's Getting more competitive and we want to make sure that we're preparing ourselves to compete as effectively as possible and that includes Higher quality products, greater volume of product, but also our locations of our retail stores. So we expect to open Somewhere between 46 new stores this year in Florida and then the balance of those would be in 2022.
Perfect. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Camilo Lyon with BTIG.
Thank you. Good afternoon. So Boris, it's great to see the 20% quarter, very strong indeed. You kept the full year revenue guidance intact. Anything you can help us Any color you can give us to help us understand the cadence between Q3 and Q4, how that should unfold and how Your cultivation projects will come online to catalyze the differences between Q3 and Q4.
Yes. I mean, we anticipate continued strong growth into Q3 and Q4. I mean, historically, everybody knows that Q4 For is Croptober, there is always pressure on the cannabis market with illicit cannabis coming out of mainly California and Oregon. So we're always a little bit careful to make sure that we don't overestimate what we can do. Also there's one more factor and that is the issue of New York.
We just don't know when the whole flower is going to drop, whether it's going to drop in September, whether it's going to drop in the Q4. We did think that it would get signed. We were told by New York authorities That it would get signed in early August, late July. It didn't. Obviously, I think we all understand why.
It's on the Governor's desk, but the Governor has got other issues to deal with at the moment. So cannabis is probably not number 1. But as we said on the call earlier, It's not a question of if, it's a question of when, because it is codified in law. So we will get whole flower and whole flower obviously is going to be a big number for KureLeaf, Given that we're the largest supplier of flower in New York on the wholesale market as well as to our own stores. So we're just trying to be a little bit careful on how the 4th quarter 3rd and 4th quarters work out, but we're very confident in the organic growth, which is why we guided in the beginning of the year between $1,200,000,000 and 1,300,000,000 of revenue and we're very comfortable to say that we believe that we'll definitely meet the midpoint on our base U.
S. Obviously, with our European business being on top of that. And we're just trying to be conservative regarding where we come out Some of the factors that I raised. Otherwise, we still continue to see it. And in terms of cultivation, we've got a lot of new cultivation coming online, Some of which is coming online, to be honest, in the Q3, which really doesn't really start harvesting properly until December.
And so There's question about how much of that cultivation will actually hit the market in the Q4 versus Q1 of 2022. Obviously, we've all recognized the fact that the supply chain has got some stress in it globally. And so some of the cultivation projects are obviously slightly held back, although I have to say the team at Cure has done a great job and none of them are delayed more than Sort of a month, but that 1 month does change the picture in terms of the amount of flower that would come out of those facilities this year versus January of next year. So That's why we guided in the middle of the range. We're just trying to be cautious to make sure that we understand that we definitely can meet the numbers that we're outlining.
That's why we came in there.
That's perfect. Thanks for the color. And then going back to the question that was asked earlier around your margins. I think last quarter you kind of gave high level margins, progression for Your more established markets and the more nascent markets, has anything changed on the established market, grouping in terms of those margins that you're seeing? It seems like it's the younger, more nascent markets are the ones that are starting to catch up.
I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't anything that we were
No, we haven't seen any kind of pressure in our more established markets. We still could see robust growth. As a matter of fact, we had margin expansion in states like New York and New Jersey, which are markets that we've had for some time. And the smaller markets As we bring on the cultivation, we just brought on a major cultivation facility in Arizona. That's going to obviously expand our margin as we start to sell our own flower through our stores rather than Keystoneing in flower from other growers.
And so that's going to help margins as well. And as I think Joe said, we Just brought on a large facility, 2 facilities this year, 250,000 Square Foot The Canopy facilities in Florida, one that's already harvesting now, and one that will be harvesting in the late Q4. So all of those things will continue to add to margin. We have a new facility coming online in Pennsylvania And in Illinois also in the Q3 that we'll be harvesting sometime in Q4. So All of these facilities should add to margin expansion into late Q4, early Q1 of 2022.
Our next question comes from Andrew Parthenough with Stifel GMP.
Hi. Thank you for taking my questions and congrats on the great quarter. You guys have a pretty unique footprint being the only one with a real national presence In so many different states and one of the advantages Some interesting insights on the consumer level. I'm wondering with COVID coming back or Rather restrictions easing and life coming back to normal. Could you talk a little bit about what you're seeing In terms of consumer behavior, whether it's consumption or purchasing behavior, any high level Could be useful to kind of understand the trends.
Going into COVID, there was increased consumption And people were devoting more of their wallet share to cannabis and kind of looking forward, what do you expect?
Listen, I think that COVID was obviously very good for cannabis. It widened the customer base Both on the wellness side as well as on the adult use side, you definitely had some increased Demand during the peak of the original COVID flare up that we had in 2020. We definitely saw, and I think the BDS analytics shows that we definitely saw 10 top states with BDS covers Have a slowdown between from in May June. If you look at the most recent numbers that have come out, you'll see that 10 of their states showed a slight decrease in sales. We don't think that that's a demand issue, a long term demand trend.
We think that that Or too much competition. We think that was a share of wallet. People were cooped up in their homes for over a year and they started to venture out. They were going Vacations, they were traveling abroad. And so, people are moving around between states, so they couldn't use their cards on vacations.
And so we definitely saw a little bit of a change in habit, but nothing dramatic, Just a little bit of softness and we think we've seen some green shoots in July. Illinois reported early numbers that showed a substantial increase In July, we'd like to see some of the other numbers before we can make a definitive view. But the Curalief's view is that going into September in 4th quarter, we should as people start to come back home and go back to work, assuming the Delta variant doesn't flare up beyond sort of what happened in Europe, We think that demand should start to pick up again for cannabis products and normalize into late 3rd into the 4th quarter. Obviously, if we get hit by a substantial COVID or God forbid another lockdown, that potentially could actually reflect Very, very positively because we could get the same kind of reaction that we got in 2020. So overall, we remain very positive.
Back in May, when I mentioned publicly that we saw a slowdown, we just felt that it's important to be transparent with the market and we were proved To be right, because the official statistics did show a slowdown in demand in all the key states around the country and PuraLeaf being The only operator that can actually reflect and see 23 states across the country was an early barometer of what then BDS was able to confirm. But as you can see, it did not reflect in our numbers. We were still able to meet our guidance in the Q2 and we continue to feel that we're going to meet our guidance
Thanks for that very detailed answer. Maybe switching gears on the call, you guys mentioned about potentially refinancing your debt In early 2022, could you remind us where you're at now with that in terms of a cost of debt and Where you might be targeting, what kind of color are you seeing in the debt markets now? Could we see any potential traditional mortgages? Or are all of your Substantial amount of your real estate already in locked in sale leasebacks. Just A little bit of extra color there because I thought that was an interesting comment.
Yes. Listen, we've always been very transparent about our debt position. We were the first to issue a 4 year, 2 year non call note without any warrants Back in January of 2020, we added another $50,000,000 to that note at a substantially reduced rate. Our initial note was The 13%, this one was issued at 10% in the quarter back in January of this year. We've since seen even a further Contraction in the cannabis market, there's a couple of deals in the market right now at 9% And the companies that are much smaller than Curaleaf and given the substantial cash flow generation that we expect to see in the second half of this year, We think we'll be in a very strong position in January when we go to refinance our notes.
I don't want to predict exactly what rate we're going to get, but obviously, we anticipate Being in the single digits and more competitive than some of the other deals in the market today given our size, Scale and creditworthiness. So that will obviously add a tremendous amount of cash flow to the bottom line because It's going to reduce the cost of our financing substantially. On the REIT side, some of our REIT financings, we do have the ability At a certain point in time to refinance, I don't have that information exactly here. Some of them are long term notes that we can't refinance. So But for the most part, Curali's refinancings were done at a lower level than most of our competition.
So we're not too fussed about it. We feel it's pretty good. And those that we can refinance, We certainly will do that when the time is up.
And we'd like to remind you to limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Our next question comes from Eric De L'Oreal with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Great.
Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on the strong growth in the quarter. So you've talked a lot about your innovation pipeline. I appreciate the color there and your focus on derivative products with brands like Select. But While Flower remains king in most markets and you guys are continuing to build out capacity, Flower coming online in New York, etcetera, Can you help us understand where you guys love to compete with Flower?
Are you guys focusing on sort of premium quality, premium pricing? Is it Good quality at a great price. Just any color on just kind of reminding us of your flower strategy would be helpful. Thanks.
Hey, Joe, will you take that?
Yes. I think we are certainly continuing to not only improve Quality of our flower, but the quantity and the yields of our flower. But as a large cultivator, we don't see ourselves as A niche grower who is focused on very boutique high end flower, we're really targeting great flower at a very reasonable price. And I think we achieved that in most of our markets today. And in the markets that we haven't yet, we're on the way to achieving that.
And I think That's really the cornerstone of our pricing strategy is that we want to just produce a great value proposition to our consumers, whether it's in flower Or candidly any other product format where we're delivering. We see ourselves as somebody who has got the ability to Produce great products at a reasonable price with high quality and high consistency, and that's the cornerstone of our strategy.
Okay, great. That's helpful. I appreciate that. And then my follow-up here, I guess, a bit of a follow-up on the previous question, Boris. You mentioned We expect some significant cash flow generation in the back half of the year here.
Year to date, you guys have generated an impressive $147,000,000 in EBITDA, But cash flow from operations seems elusive. You guys are at a loss of $79,000,000 Can you just help us understand the difference there and What it's going to take to get you guys
to cash flow positive? Thanks.
Ranjan, do you want to cover that?
Sure. Thanks. So you're right. I mean, for Q2, we did have a negative cash flow from ops. But as the margins continue to increase in Q3 and Q4, We are expecting our adjusted EBITDA margins to really cross the 30% mark for Q4.
That's really going to drop down Into the cash flows and also the CapEx needs is also going to continue to go down. We did build a lot of inventory in Q2 to really support the demand coming in the back half. That's not going to be that much needed for new CapEx investments. So that's also going to help for cash flow from ops. So we believe in the back half, especially in Q4, We will start to be positive cash flow too.
Our next question comes from Matt McGinley with Needham.
Great. Thank you. My question
is in regard to CapEx. You said in the prepared remarks that you expect new capacity in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, I I think there's PA in 2022. I doubt you're going to spot the guide CapEx dollars today. But as you look at your asset base and your planned expansion, do you think we're At peak CapEx with $140,000,000 this year? Or do you think that you're going to have continued projects?
Are you going to have big amounts of CapEx when you deploy to Further the growth in 'twenty three and beyond, are we at kind of a, like I said, a peak CapEx number this year?
I think I'll start and then I'll let Joe also continue in. But on this year, the big CapEx number for us this year Was New York, and we have made a decision at this point in time to just expand to that limit that we At least now know that New York will definitely allow us to have, rather than go out and spend a tremendous amount of capital building Further expansion facilities in New York. Given that we don't think New York is going to get going really until January of 2023, If we hear from the state over the next several months as they put the commission in place that they will allow us to have more than, call it, 150,000 square feet of canopy, Then we'll go out and build it. We've secured the sites. We have all the locations.
We have drawings. We're ready to go. But we've just decided that at this point in time, We go out and build as well as the fact that the state has been frowning upon people announcing that they're going to build capacity Over and above what the state has indicated to everybody that they're going to probably award at this point in time. And so in order not To upset the regulator and to stay in good standing with them, we're building what we know that at the moment there's the discussion around 150,000 of Canopy for The existing ROs and then if that changes, we've got plenty of time and we've got the location set up to build that. That Number was around $50,000,000 which has taken our CapEx down to the level where we are now.
Okay.
Yes. I would just say just
Sorry to reinforce what Boris said. I think the $150,000,000 is a good proxy for our steady state capital programs. But if we see accelerated growth opportunities in the marketplace, we're prepared to spend behind those opportunities. If New York allows additional cultivation capacity, We're going to build it. But I think you'll also see qualitatively a shift.
As we've talked about, we really look at our capital program across 3 time horizons. We continue to build out our existing footprint in key markets like New York and New Jersey, even Arizona, But we also are spending for the eventual nationality of the business, right? So we'll start seeing a qualitative shift in Shorter term capital projects, hopefully, to longer term capital projects as those projects become more feasible in the marketplace. But I think the $150,000,000 is a good proxy for an annual spend.
Great. Thank you. And then maybe a big picture question on the production footprint and cost into 'twenty two and beyond that I think Boris alluded to. But what are you hoping to achieve or learn from Well, Suenos, it can be immediately applied to your other production facilities because I don't think you have anything that's like this facility today. I guess, on top of that, like how much more of an opportunity is there to harmonize your purchasing costs across the national footprint to drive those unit costs down?
Or is it more of an opportunity on driving cultivation costs down in these individual facilities where you get more of the upside over the long term?
Go ahead, Joe. Yes, Barst,
I'm assuming you want me to start with that one. And then I'll actually defer to Neil Davidson who is also on
the call.
But I think the what we're hoping to do with a project like Los Banos, as we've talked about, is Accomplished 2 goals. The first goal is we are going to provide capacity, much needed capacity in a market like Colorado, which is a big market, And we're under shared. And so we're providing existing biomass for our formulated products in a market that we think is Very attractive and we're under shared. On a longer term basis, we're trying to blend our overall cost of cultivation To get to the lowest total delivery cost. And that includes where we have facilities, primarily indoor, Capable of producing high end, high THC flower with greenhouse, Of course, outdoor, which is primarily biomass for formulated products.
And by creating the right blend of those technologies, we're hoping to get to the total The lowest total delivery cost in the marketplace. So we will do that in Colorado by providing our current needs. We'll use that technology of outdoor scale and cultivation to be able to lower our total cost of delivery. And we're also perfecting genetics that could Potentially then be used on outdoor basis across the U. S.
So for us, it's a very strategic opportunity to Take a step change in our business, and we're very excited about the ability to work with Los Juenos to do that.
Our final question today comes from Matt Bottomley with Canaccord Genuity.
Good evening and congrats on the continued success. I just wanted to pivot back to some of your commentary on what Chuck Put out there in his draft discussion. I know it's not fundamentals of the business and you guys have more important things to focus day over day, but I'm just curious on maybe Boris, if you wanted to comment on what you think potentially needs to be put into that bill or taken out of that bill in order And also any thoughts on the taxation there? That's a lot of the feedback I've been getting from investors is the impact of a potential 25% federal tax Net of the removal of 280E and if that were to stay as is, how that looks in your view to the fundamentals on the tax line?
I think it's very early to discuss what this law is going to look like, right? There was a wish list that was put down on paper from the 3 senators, and it was discussed internally quite extensively. And I think it's got all the right I think it's going to go into negotiation now. Obviously, a federal tax rate of 23% to 25% would be very, very good for the industry. More importantly, just the fact that we can write off our expenses will be very, very helpful.
I mean today, the average Companies paying well over 50% in taxes, 55% to 60%, call it, because of the 2 ABU status. So it's going to bring down the cost dramatically. I think the bigger question is what is the excise tax going to look like and how is it going to be structured. And that's something that's going to be up for discussion negotiation. I suspect it will look a lot like alcohol, where higher alcohol Alcohol content is taxed at a higher rate, lower alcohol levels are taxed at a lower rate, which is very similar to cannabis.
So I think That's going to be the discussion that's going to be had. Outside of that, as I said, I think that the law is more going to be focused I think the interstate commerce issue is going to be the biggest problem at this point in time. I just don't think that a lot of the Republicans are ready for that at this point in time. But I do know that we're very, very good with votes in the Senate for a safe banking loss. So there is bipartisan support basically now.
I don't want to say it's 100%, but I would say it's the closest we've ever been to an approval if that law came to the floor to get passed. I think that's a huge, huge accomplishment that's been done by the whole industry and its lobbying as well as Senator Schumer Wyden and Booker that submitted this law, it really put a lot of pressure. Basically, a lot of Republicans are saying, hey, we're really comfortable with The Safe Banking, we're not quite yet ready for interstate commerce. So I think and I think the Democrats can get comfortable with a law that allows the state to determine What laws they want and we've seen that in gambling. So I don't see that's the structure under which gambling operates in the United States.
I don't see that Why that couldn't be the same for cannabis. And so I just think it's a matter of negotiations as everything is. But the good news is, I don't know if everybody's noticed this, but we're starting to see some bipartisan work in D. C. We're seeing it on infrastructure.
I think we're going to see it on the debt ceiling and On the budget, so it's good. We're going into a nice environment where once we're through infrastructure and the budget and the debt ceiling, The next big issue is cannabis. And so the bipartisan work that's being done on those laws, I think, is going to benefit the work on cannabis.
Understood and appreciate that. And then just a follow-up on more on the core fundamentals here. Two markets in particular, just Arizona and New York. So Arizona, any commentary on How that ramp is going seems to be pretty healthy with respect to the onboarding of recreational use just given the fact that the Medical market seemed very friendly to those types of product forms and the other just being New York. So you mentioned flower hoping to come online there.
And I'm just curious on what your expectations are On potential magnitude there, maybe relative to Florida or other markets where you've experienced that, just given that the locations, at least that the ones I've been to in New York, They feel more like clinics. They're not really your typical dispensaries. Clearly, not that many in the state overall. So just wondering if you think the addition of flower will be a Material driver to new customers coming into the legal channels?
Yes. There's no question that flower will change The picture it has in every state where whole flower has been approved. It's very consistent throughout the country when flower is introduced In a bud and whole flower form, demand really picks up quite dramatically. People still rather buy, let's be honest, In a store than on the street for the most part because they know what they're getting and they're getting a safe product that isn't laced with something or something like that. So from a safety perspective, it does help.
Obviously, a direct legalization would help it even more, because it would increase the amount of stores throughout the The biggest problem right now is you've got 10 operators each with 4 stores. And so that's quite limiting in terms of access. But we do expect a substantial pickup in demand. And to be honest, for the most part, it would be Kuralief, because Kuralief has the largest cultivation operations in the state. And as Rajan had mentioned earlier, one of the cash flow issues is that we have been building product in New York and in New Jersey and other states getting ready For what's going to be a big change, right?
In New Jersey, of course, it's going to be a wreck in November and New York, it's going to be a whole flower in as soon as the governor signs it. And the good news is that if Cuomo is either impeached or resigns, It is our understanding that the Lieutenant Governor will be taking its place as very favorable towards cannabis and is very likely to sign the law pretty quickly after coming into office. So we're pretty comfortable that this is going to happen. We're unfortunately stuck What is becoming a regular routine in the country and that is scandals around governors and congressmen and senators and that's what we're in the middle of with Cuomo right now. And it's quite understandable that he doesn't really have time to focus on the cannabis issue.
So that's one of the things that we think is probably going to get pushed out into the Q4 over
This concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to hand the call back over to Carlos Madrazo for some closing remarks.
Thank you all for joining us today. I'd like to note that we will be participating in a in a number of upcoming virtual conferences and events, including our fireside chat with Boris through Canaccord's Virtual Cannabis Conference tomorrow at 9 am Eastern Time, which will be webcast live. Please visit our Investor Relations website for access. We look forward to updating you all further on our progress at These events as well as on our Q3 2021 financial results call. In the meantime, make sure to follow our dedicated Curaleaf Investor Relations Twitter account, which
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