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Earnings Call: Q4 2025

Mar 11, 2026

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Dorel Industries Fourth Quarter 2025 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may reach an operator by pressing star then zero. Before turning the meeting over to management, please be advised that this conference call will contain statements that are forward-looking and subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded today, March eleventh, twenty-twenty six. I would now like to turn the call over to Martin Schwartz, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Martin Schwartz
President and CEO, Dorel Industries

Thank you. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Dorel's Fourth quarter Earnings Call for the period ended December 30, 2025. With me today are Jeffrey Schwartz, CFO, and Jayson Kwasnik, Vice President of Finance. We'll take your questions following our comments. Please note that all figures mentioned during this call are in U.S. dollars. Dorel Juvenile delivered strong performance in 2025, demonstrating resilience amid ongoing tariff-related pressure in the U.S. and mixed market conditions globally. While these external factors moderated revenue growth, improved margins and disciplined cost management contributed to an 84.7% increase in adjusted operating profit for the year. Fourth quarter results were marked by a return to growth in the U.S., coupled with exceptional results in Europe and across several international markets. Innovation across core categories, particularly rotating car seats and Maxi-Cosi products, continues to support the segment's competitive positioning.

These results underscore the benefit of Dorel Juvenile's diversified geographic footprint and the segment's ability to execute in a challenging operating environment. During the fourth quarter, Dorel Home operated in a lower sales environment, reflecting constrained product availability, delivered SKU rationalization, and the final stages of its restructuring plan. Notwithstanding these pressures, the segment advanced its operational initiatives, including cost reductions associated with facility closures, workforce actions, and administrative consolidation. Adjusted operating loss improved year-over-year in the quarter, reflecting the benefit of a reduced cost base. With the conclusion of our major restructuring activities and the disposition of non-core inventory nearly complete, Dorel Home enters 2026 with a streamlined operating footprint and a simplified business model intended to support improved execution and performance.

As always, Jeffrey will walk you through our results, but first, I want to add color to our press release, starting with the Dorel Juvenile segment. At Dorel Juvenile, throughout 2025, our international footprint allowed us to offset challenges in the U.S., principally due to the uncertainty around tariffs and increasing retail price points. In prior conference calls, I articulated how well we're doing with our divisions in Australia and Canada and other export markets, and this continued into the fourth quarter. In Chile, Peru, our operations were profitable in the fourth quarter for the first time since 2022 as the team adjusts the business model to full omnichannel capabilities. In the fourth quarter, we are particularly pleased by the results of our U.S. operations. As previously disclosed, revenues in the U.S. until the end of the third quarter were actually down versus prior year.

This reversed in fourth quarter, and we posted a small single-digit increase. The increase came from our traditional retail partners as we successfully reset modular items and introduced new items and price points. We had strong e-commerce sales, including our own direct-to-consumer fulfillment. Traditional car seat models like the Scenera, the Grow and Go, and the Finale did well, as did new introductions that hit key price points supported by targeted promotional activities. Our opening price points, price point strollers did well, and Maxi-Cosi continued its growth path in the U.S. This all illustrates clearly how our multiple price point brand strategy allows us to compete from opening to high-end categories, and we did so with improved margins. Finally, in Europe, despite a slight decline in revenue, we gained market share and delivered improved earnings in the quarter.

We are taking business from our competitors, and our product line is as good as it has ever been in Europe. Fourth quarter, in general, is quiet in terms of customer events, but I do wanna call out a few highlights in certain markets. In Chile, Infanti was named number one juvenile retail brand for the third consecutive year, according to the Omnichannel Index 2025 by Altevo. This achievement reflects the team's continued commitment to omnichannel excellence and digital transformation, reinforcing Infanti's leadership position in the Chilean market.

In Brazil, we are prominently featured on Autoesporte , a leading Sunday program on TV Globo, as part of a special Children's Day edition focused on child car seat safety. The four-minute segment showcased the latest innovations from Maxi-Cosi, Safety 1st, and Infanti, including i-Size technology, 360-degree rotating seats, height-adjustable models, and lightweight foldable designs, along with guidance on keeping children rear-facing until at least 15 months. Finally, in Canada, we made a strong return to the Toronto Baby Show, engaging with attendees across two lively booths for Maxi-Cosi and Safety 1st. The event delivered excellent visibility and standout commercial results with strong sales in strollers, travel systems, especially the Zelia travel system, and car seats like the new Maxi-Cosi Andi and other Maxi-Cosi products. The success reinforced the value of a direct consumer engagement in the Canadian market. Now for Dorel Home.

We concluded 2025 with the majority of our restructuring complete. There remains certain legacy costs that we are working to eliminate in 2026. Fundamentally, our cost structure has been reduced to where a return to profitability is possible. I already elaborated at the end of the third quarter the extent of the changes in 2025, and we delivered on those changes. The most significant restructuring event in fourth quarter was the migration to our Juvenile IT systems, a task that was delivered within nine months of concept, which is a great feat by our team. I want to thank everyone involved in that project. I know it took a lot of work outside of the usual tasks. It was only made possible by the sheer effort and determination of our employees. As of today, we still have some work to do.

The main ones being the final liquidation of the not-go-forward SKU, the sublease of our lease commitment at our former manufacturing facility in Cornwall, Ontario, vacating space in Dowagiac, Michigan, with the major lease expiring in Q2 of 2026, and the sublease of excess space in our East Coast warehouse in Georgia. Unfortunately, we were unable to kickstart our supply chain despite our new borrowing facilities. This meant our product availability was lacking, and we did lose sales as a result. As of now, that is resolved and product is flowing again. We are working with our supplier partners, and we are slowly reestablishing the right level of inventory needed to support sales. For fourth quarter and even the start of 2026, we are not seeing the sales rebound that was expected.

Our core Costco business remains strong, but getting our traditional everyday living furniture categories back to the sales level that we expect is taking a little longer than anticipated. I'll now ask Jeffrey to review the financials. Jeffrey?

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

Thank you, Martin. I'm gonna be pretty brief here. You know, as far as the consolidated numbers for the fourth quarter, our revenue decreased 14.7% to $278 million. That decline, as we said, is all in the Home area and partially offset by some improvements in the Juvenile. As we said in the Home, you know, we reduced our SKUs significantly. We've got out of a lot of lines of business. We're building a new business. We also did not have a lot of inventory in the fourth quarter and all of that lines up together to have the negative results there.

On the Juvenile side, we did see improvements in revenue and organic revenue in the fourth quarter. U.S., Australia, Chile, and Canada sort of led the growth while we had some declines in Brazil. In Europe, we actually had some organic decline of only 2%, but a growth when you convert it over to the U.S. dollar. Where we did do quite well in our gross profit areas, we increased that by $10 million or 21% in the quarter. The margins increased by 600 basis points. You know, that's coming from the Juvenile segment. Yeah, obviously, there were declines in the Home segment.

The Juvenile increases gross profit and gross margin in the fourth quarter was primarily driven by improved volumes, improved mix and FX exchange as well, all contributed to get us there. At the end, we reported an operating loss of $8.7 million compared to $23 million in the previous year. Finance expenses increased by $5 million - $15 million during the quarter. The increase is mainly explained by the interest on the preferred shares that we issued at the end of the third quarter and higher debt balances and a higher interest rate as well. If we move over to Juvenile in itself now, a little bit more detail. Quarter revenue was $226 million or 6.6% above last year.

You know, like I said before, we improved in the U.S., Australia, Chile, Canada. In the U.S., the improvement was market share gains, you know, car seat performing quite well. We do have, as everyone knows, a car seat manufacturing facility in Columbus, Indiana, which is growing and doing well there, in this tariff environment. In Australia, you know, we never really talk about Australia, but it's really becoming a key element to our business. The Australia, New Zealand group that we have is doing extremely well through brand growth of Maxi-Cosi. Martin mentioned Chile and Peru turned around, and we're starting to see some positive results there, and happy to see the momentum in Canada as well.

The gross profit for the quarter increased by $13 million or 24%. Gross margin was 29.9%, representing an increase of 440 basis points. As I mentioned, higher sales volumes, better mix, selling more, higher margin product, and a favorable FX all contributed towards that. Operating profit, $14.6 million, compared to $1.6 million, the year before. If we move over to Home, the numbers—I mean, obviously, the top line, a large decline there, sixty-one million or fifty-four percent. You know, again, we're getting out of the old business. We're getting into a smaller, more streamlined business, which is really, the Costco business and an additional business.

We like to call it the Plus business, which is a limited number of SKUs on the furniture side. I'm not gonna get into gross margins and gross profit. There's incredible amounts of noise here. None of those numbers really mean anything. You know, we took down a lot of this inventory. We're clearing out inventory. We're closing warehouses and all of that. A very noisy quarter. You know, it produced the results that you see, which is you know. Excluding restructuring costs, we still had a loss of $2.9 million. Sorry, the loss decreased by $2.9 million - $8.8 million this year.

With that, I'm going to pass it back to Martin for any questions, any other comments.

Martin Schwartz
President and CEO, Dorel Industries

All right. Thanks Jeffrey. For our outlook, as we enter 2026, we remain focused on building on Dorel Juvenile momentum while managing continued market uncertainty. Priorities include operational efficiency, strengthened supplier participation, and continued investment in product innovations. While volatility is expected to persist in the U.S. and in certain Latin American markets, the company's diversified international footprint and disciplined execution provide important sources of resilience. We expect 2026 to continue the trend of year-over-year earnings improvement. At Dorel Home, we remain focused on completing the final stages of our transformation and cementing the foundations of a more efficient operating model. With the principal restructuring actions mostly completed and the cost structure materially reduced, we are positioned to focus on stabilizing the business and improving execution.

Key priorities include completing the sell-through of remaining non-core inventory, advancing an integration with Juvenile's operational ecosystem, and reigniting our everyday living furniture business alongside our successful Costco folding furniture product line. As we start 2026, we continue to drive down legacy costs, and the ramp-up is slow on our traditional furniture product portfolio. As such, earnings improvements are expected as 2026 progresses. With that, I'll ask the operator to open the lines for questions, and please limit your questions to two in the first round. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. To join the question queue, you may press Star, then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press Star, then two. The first question comes from Stephen MacLeod with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Stephen MacLeod
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Thank you. Good morning, guys. I just turning to the Home business, you know, you talked about completing the material parts of your restructuring in Q4, and so I assume when we turn the page to 2026, you know, we should see an improved operations. But I'm just curious, given that now you have most of the restructuring in the rear view mirror, are you able to give some color around what the run rate sort of cost base is in that business in 2026? I guess a follow-up to that would be, do you expect to return to profitability on an adjusted EBIT basis in 2026?

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

You're asking now about the Home business in itself?

Stephen MacLeod
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Yes, the Home business. Yeah.

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

The Home business, you know, the cost base. I don't have that number for you because it's still, you know, we're still creating this new business, to be honest with you. The Costco part is kind of okay as far as not a ton of changes there. The other part, we're still doing that now. We're still seeing what works. You know, to be honest, it's a bit of a work in progress. That's about a third of the business that we're still trying to figure out what the best costs and efficiencies are for that. I don't have a go forward run rate on that. We do expect to see some profitability by the second half of the year. As Martin mentioned, it was challenging.

You know, once we finally got in a good position with our suppliers, you don't just press a button, and they start shipping. I mean, they had their factory orders in, you know, so they had to start slotting us in with new orders, ordering the inventory. It took a while to get the new inventory that we needed to start pushing the business forward. We saw that in Q4 and Q1. It's a bit of a process there. It's a lot murkier. You know, we see a fairly clear path on the juvenile side, but it is a little bit more of a work in progress. It's a very difficult marketplace. I mean, just staying around is challenging.

A lot of our competitors and a lot of the retailers are actually going out of business here. We do believe there's an opportunity. Like I said, part of our business is doing well in Home, and we're still building that second half of the business.

Stephen MacLeod
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay. That's helpful. Maybe just on the juvenile side, you cited in the outlook just some volatility that you expect to persist in the U.S. and Latin America. Is that just related to tariffs, or is there some other volatility that we should be aware of?

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

In the US, I mean, tariffs. Yeah. Yeah, for sure tariffs. You know, what's going on with the oil prices, with the war. I mean, people, you know, are they spending? It's just more volatile than it's been in a while in the US. The economy for consumer products is just tougher. Having said that, we do believe in our products. We do believe that we will pick up market share, like we're doing around the world. You know, we have some good momentum, which we're pleased with. You know, the market challenges are much harder there. Chile is just, you know, we're coming out of a difficult period. Chile is getting better, but it's still a challenging area.

Stephen MacLeod
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay. That's helpful. Thanks Jeffrey.

Operator

The next question comes from Derek Lessard with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Derek Lessard
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Good morning, gentlemen. Let me just, I'll ask the question a different way than Stephen. Would you say it's fair to say, and this is more pertaining to Home, that you guys are past the worst of business?

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

Yeah, for sure. For sure. It's more of a what's an analogy? I mean, the analogy is, you know, we ran out of gas, like, at the end of the third quarter in the business, on the Home side. On the juvenile side, we still had momentum. Things were slower, things where we didn't have all the inventory we wanted, but everything was moving. We stopped, you know, the business for a number of months. There's a number of SKUs, I won't get into the SKUs of the customers, but that were lost because we didn't respond properly in the tariff environment. Since then, since, you know, Q4, we have responded. Responding means, you know, probably changed the items so that, you know, the price points were different or added features or did what we had to do.

We've gotten those items placed again. You know, we have a couple of items that we lost for six months.

Derek Lessard
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Right.

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

It's just you know what I mean. It's just been really difficult because the business stopped. Again, I don't want to. I mean like we stopped shipping but we couldn't move forward on a lot of things. Then you know you gotta put some gas in the tank and then start the process. We're in that. The process is going. We're getting more listings. We're winning things back. We're getting in front and delivering to our customers. All of that needed to be done in the Home business which ended up being more challenging. You know I think that's the reason.

Derek Lessard
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Okay. I think Martin touched on it in his opening remarks, but could you just maybe. I know you're close to the end of the restructuring process in Home, but maybe just remind me of or ask of the sort of the biggest components of that restructuring that's that you have left?

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

Yeah. We still have a couple of pieces of real estate that, I don't think it's technically restructuring, but it's, we call it legacy costs. There are some costs that, we're still paying that we're getting no value for. We're in the process of looking for subleases. That's probably the single biggest area. It's not people anymore. You know, we've brought that down. We're just looking for the best and most efficient way to continue to operate. How do we call some costs out, maybe join costs with the juvenile group, increasingly doing that. You know, there's no major other than some real estate, there's no major restructuring that we're facing.

Derek Lessard
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Okay. Maybe turning to more of the positive story on the juvenile side. Jeffrey, in your prepared remarks, you alluded to volumes mix and FX as the drivers of the improvements in the gross margin. Is that? Were they all equally weighted?

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

I don't have the weighting for me. I do know that they're all important. Certainly our FX is, you know, the winds are behind us for a change.

Derek Lessard
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Right.

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

What you gotta look at is, you know, you've got an adjustment of FX, but in the following quarter, your margins are higher because you're paying, you know, like in Europe, you know, the euros. We're collecting euro dollars, paying in U.S. dollars for the product.

Derek Lessard
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Right. Yeah.

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

Our margins going forward end up being higher as well, right? It's hard. I don't have that adjustment to say, well, if it was $1 million one time hit in Q4, does that affect Q1? It does.

Derek Lessard
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Oh, yeah.

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

I don't have those numbers, but you know what I mean? It's not just a one-time adjustment, even though it is an adjustment in Q4. Going forward, we've been hedging at some of the new rates. The impact of being a global company is probably coming to the forefront more than in the history of our business. While we have some challenges in the U.S., even though we're doing okay, and we're making money, and we're growing, if it was just a U.S. business like a bunch of our competitors, it wouldn't be as a rosy picture.

We're able to drive the rest of the world at a pace significantly faster than the U.S., which is allowing for, I'll say, better growth than most of the people in our industry.

Derek Lessard
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Yes. I just wanted to make sure that volume and mix was a meaningful contributor, if that's a better way to ask the question.

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

Yeah.

Derek Lessard
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Okay.

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

Yeah.

Derek Lessard
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, TD Cowen

Thank you, guys.

Operator

We have a follow-up question from Stephen MacLeod with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Stephen, please go ahead.

Stephen MacLeod
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Sorry, my bad. I was on mute there. I just had a follow-up question regarding the home business again and the outlook. I know that there are still some moving parts with respect to some of the restructuring initiatives that haven't been done. You know, just again trying to get a sense of the run rate on things, considering that's probably the business that has the most moving parts right now. In terms of D&A, you know, we saw D&A sort of take a pretty significant step down in Q4, and I'm just wondering if that's potentially a new run rate or is that maybe related to a Q4 full year true up or something like that?

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

I'm gonna say on the home side, any number you see in Q4 is not a valid number for projecting forward.

Stephen MacLeod
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay.

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

It doesn't matter what it is. It's about as noisy as you can get when you're taking things down, when you're restructuring, when you're you know, running out of inventory, when you're like discontinuing stuff, when you've got factories that are still operating, but they're not. It's a very messy quarter to do any analysis on.

Stephen MacLeod
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Yeah. Understood.

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

The best thing I can just tell you is it's gonna be much better than last year, right? Last year we lost $40 million. I mean, our bad quarters are not going to be, you know, pro forma off of last year. It's probably gonna take to the second half before we see a turn in the profitability to a positive level.

Stephen MacLeod
Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst, BMO Capital Markets

Okay. Understood. Yeah. Thanks Jeffrey. I appreciate it.

Jeffrey Schwartz
EVP, CFO, and Secretary, Dorel Industries

Bet.

Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Martin Schwartz for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Martin Schwartz
President and CEO, Dorel Industries

Thank you. I just wanna say to everybody, thanks for joining us here today, and hope you all have a great rest of the week. Thank you.

Operator

This brings to a close today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.

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